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May 12, 2026

Orders

by David M Willis on October 28, 2022 at 12:01 am
  • 01 – Bring Me to Life Drawing
└ Tags: joe, joyce

Discussion (149) ¬

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  1. darkoneko
    darkoneko
    October 28, 2022 at 12:01 am | #

    wow, this sure is going in a direction.

    • Alex
      Alex
      October 28, 2022 at 1:51 pm | #

      Underrated comment right here.

  2. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    October 28, 2022 at 12:02 am | #

    Joe, later: “That’s no lady, that’s my wife!”

    wait no…?

  3. The Wellerman
    The Wellerman
    October 28, 2022 at 12:02 am | #

    For those of you bummed about the pizza thing, relax.

    The way I see it, minus the food part, this is an upgrade from pizza! 😍

    • The Wellerman
      The Wellerman
      October 28, 2022 at 12:16 am | #

      Wait is it? Lemme know what you all think, my brain is melted from a day worth of coding 🫠

      Tootles!!!

      • True Survivor
        True Survivor
        October 28, 2022 at 12:20 am | #

        Live drawing a naked person, especially as a date sounds awful. Awkward and the added pressure of performance anxiety so you’re date doesn’t think you’re an artless monkey who lacks the basic motor skills to draw simple shapes. At least with Pizza, everyone should have their clothes on and if it goes poorly, Joyce still makes it out with a free meal.

        • Yotomoe
          Yotomoe
          October 28, 2022 at 12:25 am | #

          It could be a pretty fun date if you’re both artists tho. You could compare techniques at the end of the night. Have a moment where you’re like “why don’t you keep my sketch and I’ll keep yours”

          • Bridgebrain
            Bridgebrain
            October 28, 2022 at 5:27 pm | #

            Or if you’re both chill about being terrible artists. Like bob ross painting nights, there’s no mistakes, only happy little accidents (and laughter over how much your drawing kind of looks like a cat somehow?)

        • Thag Simmons
          Thag Simmons
          October 28, 2022 at 12:28 am | #

          I would absolutely prefer a pizza date IRL, but for the purposes of a scenario in a slice of life comic bringing the guy you have a mutual crush on to a life drawing class is extremely good

        • v.gay.person
          v.gay.person
          October 28, 2022 at 3:16 am | #

          I’m team naked people art. I prefer having an activity to occupy my brain/hands over just sitting and staring at each others eye globes. Parallel play for the win

          • The Wellerman
            The Wellerman
            October 28, 2022 at 4:07 am | #

            🥰 sounds like my kinda date

      • True Survivor
        True Survivor
        October 28, 2022 at 12:22 am | #

        PS. May you brain freeze once again … wait no that’s bad too. Though an acceptable sacrifice for ice-cream?

      • Keulen
        Keulen
        October 28, 2022 at 8:30 am | #

        I think I’d rather have pizza as a date, than trying to draw a naked person. Pizza would be way less awkward for me, though I’m already super awkward regardless.

      • justin8448
        justin8448
        October 28, 2022 at 2:07 pm | #

        I feel that a drawing-naked-people date is high risk, high reward.

        The one thing it won’t be is boring.

    • Bryy
      Bryy
      October 28, 2022 at 12:25 am | #

      I’m bummed out Joe isn’t the pee-pee model.

      • Rose by Any Other Name
        Rose by Any Other Name
        October 28, 2022 at 12:36 am | #

        “Gettin lots of PP. Hell yeah baby PP.”

      • Clif
        Clif
        October 28, 2022 at 1:28 am | #

        There’s still Jacob.

      • Fay
        Fay
        October 28, 2022 at 10:44 am | #

        I’m pretty sure if that happened the story would end up being pretty short because Joyce would just straight up sprint out of there.

      • Jahu
        Jahu
        October 28, 2022 at 11:36 am | #

        Well, hey, there’s always the possibility that the scheduled model ghosts last-minute and they need a replacement…

  4. Doctor_Who
    Doctor_Who
    October 28, 2022 at 12:02 am | #

    Joe: “I got it. A place where you can check out the human form, and nobody will mind me being there too.”

    (Cut to: a thrilled Joe and humiliated Joyce at a strip club.)

    • Yotomoe
      Yotomoe
      October 28, 2022 at 12:03 am | #

      Unironically I have considered doing life drawing in a strip club just because I think you’d get good poses and just a strong sense of motion.

      • anon
        anon
        October 28, 2022 at 12:06 am | #

        i wouldn’t be surprised if some ppl do that but you’d still have to tip the same amount i’d think

        • Yotomoe
          Yotomoe
          October 28, 2022 at 12:12 am | #

          Oh for sure. I mean let’s be fair, it’s also polite to tip models in general.

        • Creatrix Tiara
          Creatrix Tiara
          October 28, 2022 at 12:21 am | #

          There are a bunch of life drawing classes that incorporate burlesque dancers for similar reasons!

          • v.gay.person
            v.gay.person
            October 28, 2022 at 3:17 am | #

            holy shit my favourite magician reads the same comic as me! 😀

      • thakoru
        thakoru
        October 28, 2022 at 12:22 am | #

        I feel like half the point of a life drawing model is that they aren’t moving. Like, sure, you should learn how to draw motion at some point, but you first need to learn how to draw things that aren’t moving.

        (Actually, I’m kind of curious if “sense of motion” as an artistic technique is a relatively new thing. Thinking about, like, Renaissance paintings, I feel like they generally don’t convey motion very well – their figures always have a sort of posed look, indicating motion in the abstract but never actually appearing to be moving. And thinking about it in practical terms, I’m not sure how you would study motion as an artist in an era before photography. I don’t know anything about art history, so I’m sort of posing this as a question in the hope that someone here does.)

        • Yotomoe
          Yotomoe
          October 28, 2022 at 12:33 am | #

          You study motion by drawing figures in motion. Simple as that. Life drawing has several stages. Quick poses, 30-second, 1 minute, 2 minute, 5 minute, 30 minute, hour and so on and so on. I’ve life drawn people just walking out in public. The idea is to quickly capture the line of action, the line from their head down to their feet that their body follows and then fill in the blanks from your mind.

          Also there are PLENTY of renaissance paintings conveying a BEAUTIFUL sense of motion. It’s just not necessarily the ones that are popular. The more static portraits are just that. Portraits, usually of wealthy people who could afford to commission the artist. Who wanted a static image of themselves looking regal to hang up in their foyer or what have you. It’s more so that that’s just the style of the time. It’s also worth noting the art colleges had very specific Ideas of what is “real” art. And so that’s the art that tends to survive.

          • v.gay.person
            v.gay.person
            October 30, 2022 at 9:31 am | #

            I like going out but dislike people so the solution has been going to (punk/metal/art) events and drawing people and motions. Like, often it’s not “drawing people” like some people can, it’s watching people and the way their bodies move and drawing the *movement* when they move and then creating new bodies around them.

            No worries about consent cos it’s never a drawing of the actual person, just like a starting sketch of the motion of the arms and core filled in with various details based on whatever I want to practice (eg, I’m practicing male/very muscular bodies cos I’m way more comfy drawing very soft, round bodies but I’ll do multiple sketches off the same motion/pose)

      • drs
        drs
        October 28, 2022 at 12:22 am | #

        I would think you’d have to be careful to ask permission before doing that.

        • v.gay.person
          v.gay.person
          October 30, 2022 at 9:36 am | #

          Maybe at a strip club, at least paying for your time there. I sketch at dance clubs (more bc it helps me regulate anxiety/zero in on details and not be bogged down by the all-ness) but it rarely means actually drawing individual people, more like composite drawings based on multiple individual parts/movements.

          (Like, take the shadowing from here, the nose/jawline from there, the body motion from over there, some other outfit/fashion inspo and you end up with a totally individual sketch. Or my fave thing is just trying to draw faces I see in x-amount of lines/shapes)

      • MechaBill
        MechaBill
        October 28, 2022 at 1:55 am | #

        Toulouse Lautrec did that and became famous for it.

      • Lily
        Lily
        October 28, 2022 at 10:31 pm | #

        I mean, depending on where you go/unless you pay extra i don’t think the lighting would be very good?

  5. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    October 28, 2022 at 12:02 am | #

    It’s gonna be really hard to draw the naked lady if I am not allowed to look at the naked lady.

    • JBento
      JBento
      October 28, 2022 at 6:33 am | #

      Joe has already seen that specific naked lady naked, and will draw from memory.

      • Deanatay
        Deanatay
        October 28, 2022 at 10:27 pm | #

        Model: Hi, Joe! *winks*

        Joe: Hi, Celeste!

        *instructor clears throat*

        Celeste: What? He rated me 9.5 out of 10 – said my breasts were-

        Joyce: YES THANK YOU CMON JOE WE’RE LEAVING

    • Ed Rhodes
      Ed Rhodes
      October 28, 2022 at 11:27 am | #

      I would have thought; “Dumbing Of Age – Book 13 – Creepos Have Accomplices!”

  6. shadowcell
    shadowcell
    October 28, 2022 at 12:03 am | #

    Dumbing of Age Book 13: You Will Avert Your Eyes If the Naked Person Is a Lady!

  7. Thag Simmons
    Thag Simmons
    October 28, 2022 at 12:03 am | #

    [Sickos Voice] Yes! Ha Ha Ha! Yes!

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      October 28, 2022 at 2:14 am | #

      Yes! Ha ha ha! YES!

  8. DailyBrad
    DailyBrad
    October 28, 2022 at 12:04 am | #

    I guess this likely means Joe isn’t the model.

    Maybe Jacob?

    • RassilonTDavros
      RassilonTDavros
      October 28, 2022 at 12:07 am | #

      …oh, this I gotta see.

      • Doctor_Who
        Doctor_Who
        October 28, 2022 at 12:08 am | #

        He’s super chill about it too, and happily waves to and greets them as they come in.

    • J. Gawain
      J. Gawain
      October 28, 2022 at 12:12 am | #

      Taking all bets on how this scenario could possibly be more awkward.

      • drs
        drs
        October 28, 2022 at 12:23 am | #

        Mary.

        Peter.

      • Miri
        Miri
        October 28, 2022 at 3:49 am | #

        … Jacob and Lucy?

      • Fay
        Fay
        October 28, 2022 at 10:47 am | #

        It’s Malaya and they start flirting with Joe and bringing up the two of them having slept together.

    • Thag Simmons
      Thag Simmons
      October 28, 2022 at 12:13 am | #

      I’m not going to get my hopes up but that would be extremely good

  9. Nathan
    Nathan
    October 28, 2022 at 12:05 am | #

    I am utterly fascinated by the ways in which Joyce’s mind works.

  10. Sirksome
    Sirksome
    October 28, 2022 at 12:05 am | #

    Dorothy didn’t order you to go. You expressed interest when the topic was suggested and then bit Dorothy’s head off for being to up your ass about period pills. Don’t slander your mother Joyce!

    • Cerusee
      Cerusee
      October 28, 2022 at 1:03 am | #

      There is…really no reason whatsoever to think Joyce means “orders” literally, and not figuratively, to indicate to the audience that Joyce did in fact pick up on how invested Dorothy was, in the life-drawing class she’d arranged for Joyce to sit in on.

      • Tan
        Tan
        October 28, 2022 at 3:51 am | #

        While I agree that Joyce certainly didn’t mean it literally, given the context of Joyce yelling at Dorothy et al for being up her butt, making the request to look into life drawing classes for her anyway, then failing to express any sort of appreciation for Dorothy’s prompt follow-through, it is tone-deaf at best to joke about.

        Dorothy is not invested in the life-drawing classes. She is invested in helping someone she cares about. By presenting it as something Dorothy is having her do, Joyce is continuing to fail to acknowledge Dorothy’s helpfulness.

        • DailyBrad
          DailyBrad
          October 28, 2022 at 4:29 am | #

          It’d be tone deaf to do to Dorothy, though it’s honestly not a big deal to joke about when she’s not around, especially to someone who has known her for years and knows how Dorothy can be very goal-oriented, so I doubt Joe really needs any telling Joyce isn’t being literal.

          Joyce does owe Dorothy an apology in the future, I’d say, but for now, this isn’t a very big deal.

        • Liliet
          Liliet
          October 28, 2022 at 7:48 am | #

          Actually I’m pretty sure Joyce means it pretty close to literally, and it’s VERY connected to Joyce blowing up at Dorothy.

          Dorothy is, to put it simply, acting as Joyce’s mom, and Joyce was NOT taught how to say no to her mom. Someone arranges an opportunity for you = you are obligated to take it. That’s part of WHY Joyce gets upset at Dorothy – she is not only bad at respecting other people’s boundaries, she’s also bad at setting her own, and Dorothy is obliviously tromping all over where they would have been.

          Like, turning “could you look up what life drawing classes are there” to “I talked to the instructor of this specific one and bought you supplies!” is specifically a boundary overstep. Getting more involved than Dorothy was asked to be. Which is exactly Joyce’s problem with “being up her ass”.

          It’s not actually a trivial skill to say “no” to favors done to you. Joyce doesn’t know how to just… not go to the class, and then just tell Dorothy “well, I didn’t ask you to arrange all that, did I? I just wanted information, not to go to the first one you found”

        • Ed Callahan
          Ed Callahan
          October 28, 2022 at 8:46 am | #

          Joyce is griping. Affectionately. People do that.

      • Tan
        Tan
        October 28, 2022 at 3:58 am | #

        Also, as discussed in the comments of the Dorothy-storming-off strip:

        Dorothy did not ‘arrange’ for Joyce to be in the class. She asked the instructor if sit-ins are allowed, which is an extremely relevant piece of information, from the most reliable source.

        • DailyBrad
          DailyBrad
          October 28, 2022 at 4:31 am | #

          Right. The only thing people have pointed to that I feel like was overstepping was maybe getting her the sketch pad, but I mean, Joyce does want to get better at her art, so it is something she’d want. I don’t think Dorothy was making a big leap.

        • Liliet
          Liliet
          October 28, 2022 at 8:21 am | #

          It’s only relevant if Joyce wants to sit in on this particular class, which JOyce had given no indication of. Unasked for favors are overstepping and can easily engender a feeling of obligation, which is exactly what Joyce is expressing here.

          • Tan
            Tan
            October 28, 2022 at 2:10 pm | #

            ‘Research life drawing classes for me’. Dorothy offered a complete list of all classes that fit the criteria: is a life drawing class, does not directly conflict with Joyce’s other classes, has open seats, allows sit-ins. Because any class that does not fit all those criteria would be useless and irrelevant to Joyce. That complete list was one class.

            The ONLY unasked-for favor was buying her art supplies for the class. If that in particular was the only thing Joyce was ungrateful toward, I would be on Joyce’s side entirely (and really probably so would Dorothy). But Joyce is continuing to be a shit about Dorothy doing a favor that Joyce specifically asked for.

            • alongcameaspider
              alongcameaspider
              October 28, 2022 at 5:19 pm | #

              I think you’re taking the “Dorothy’s orders” comment a bit too seriously

          • Mark
            Mark
            October 28, 2022 at 7:28 pm | #

            Perhaps. If Dorothy did that to me, even the little I know about her would make me think, “oh, well, that’s just the way Dorothy Get-It-Done-Now Keener operates.”

      • Cerusee
        Cerusee
        October 28, 2022 at 8:54 am | #

        I think it is goddamn fucking wild that it is impossible for any two characters to have an interaction in this strip without being analyzed by the metric of Who’s More Wrong, even when the people interacting *aren’t even in conflict*.

        • Taffy
          Taffy
          October 28, 2022 at 9:04 am | #

          Sometimes, they don’t even need to be on-panel together.

        • Justnobodyfqwl
          Justnobodyfqwl
          October 28, 2022 at 1:44 pm | #

          I’ve literally been reading this comic for 10 years at this point and at some point the comment section became a competitive sport of people trying to go out of their way to willingly misinterpret everything every single character does in as bad faith as physically possible.

        • Alex
          Alex
          October 28, 2022 at 1:49 pm | #

          I think that is an unfortunate side effect of having every minute interaction open for comments and discussion. There’s less of a chance to view the big picture and instead it’s easy to nitpick about small things.

  11. TulipKitten
    TulipKitten
    October 28, 2022 at 12:05 am | #

    Joyce really didn’t think that one through. Bringing Joe to seem less creepy.

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      October 28, 2022 at 12:11 am | #

      Joe: “Can I run and get my trenchcoat and shades?”

      Joyce: “Of course, it’s winter and there’s always a glare on the snow.”

      Joe: “And a tub of Crisco?”

      Joyce: “Ooh, are you going to bake? The class will really welcome us if we bring snacks!”

    • True Survivor
      True Survivor
      October 28, 2022 at 12:14 am | #

      Yeah. Joe is the guy who famously made a “Do List” for a significant portion of the girls on campus. Not exactly a glowing character reference for not being a creep.

      • Ed Callahan
        Ed Callahan
        October 28, 2022 at 8:50 am | #

        He did publicly apologize. With doughnuts.

  12. BBCC
    BBCC
    October 28, 2022 at 12:05 am | #

    I hope we don’t skip over this class because this promises to be hilarious.

    • Thag Simmons
      Thag Simmons
      October 28, 2022 at 12:07 am | #

      I don’t think you set a premise this good up and then don’t follow through

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      October 28, 2022 at 2:12 am | #

      Willis posted a preview panel of Joyce in the life drawing class a while back.

  13. butting
    butting
    October 28, 2022 at 12:08 am | #

    Weird sounds of knuckles being cracked in anticipation, coming from Mike’s grave.

  14. bagge
    bagge
    October 28, 2022 at 12:10 am | #

    “Look, I’m not a creep. I’m here with the guy who made himself famous for currating a list that rated women on their datability to prove it.”

    • Thag Simmons
      Thag Simmons
      October 28, 2022 at 12:12 am | #

      Well he might take some of the shade off of you if everyone focuses on him

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      October 28, 2022 at 12:16 am | #

      He was also in a sex tape with a congresswoman’s sister.

      • Yotomoe
        Yotomoe
        October 28, 2022 at 12:17 am | #

        That’s not creepy. That’s just really cool.

      • JBento
        JBento
        October 28, 2022 at 6:35 am | #

        Ever since the Italian parliament spent time watching Tifa get railed in-house, porn is officially a political activity.

        • Zaxares
          Zaxares
          October 28, 2022 at 8:54 am | #

          The thing I’m most mad about from that whole incident is that it wasn’t AERITH getting railed by Cloud in the video. 😛 #TEAMCLERITH

          • Taffy
            Taffy
            October 28, 2022 at 9:06 am | #

            I gotta back up Clerith just out of necessity. Can’t be takin’ people seriously when their ship name is “Cloti”. Clotty? Come on, now.

          • JBento
            JBento
            October 28, 2022 at 4:31 pm | #

            Counterpoint: Aerith is a nothingburger who had magical powers and does jacksquat with them. And then dies, because plot even though I have like 50 Phoenix Downs. On the other hand, I found Cloud to be an 11 in the 1-10 scale of insufferability, so at least you’re only ruining one ship.

  15. Nerrin
    Nerrin
    October 28, 2022 at 12:11 am | #

    There we go. That anticipation was getting too good, had to kick it in the pants somehow.

  16. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    October 28, 2022 at 12:11 am | #

    Also, as someone who has done life drawing and is a known horndog I gotta say. Life drawing a nude woman has literally 0 sexual interest to me. When you’re doing life drawing you’re so focused on the lighting, and rhythms of the human body it’s all too easy to completely disassociate it from any erotic connotation. The human body basically becomes a sequence of shapes and rhythms, shadows and highlights. Just the pure form of life twisted and posed in front of you.

    • True Survivor
      True Survivor
      October 28, 2022 at 12:17 am | #

      Then why don’t they let them where pants or just draw like a guy in a suit? If they want to explore human anatomy for illustration, we have thousands of preserved corpses – you can even see the musculature and skeleton on a lot of them.

      • Nerrin
        Nerrin
        October 28, 2022 at 12:25 am | #

        Clothes obscure, meaning you don’t learn as much about the form and how it shifts as you think you do. Also, a living model is a little easier to source and a little more sanitary than a corpse. And yes, having someone present to view personally instead of a picture matters.

        • bemisawa
          bemisawa
          October 28, 2022 at 12:56 am | #

          All this, and also, pretty sure corpses look fairly different, and are harder to pose (see, for example, Weekend at Bernies’s, though this may not be the most thorough treatise on the subject). So if you learn “life drawing” by only drawing corpses, while you may be pleased with your life hack, I feel like everyone else is going to be greatly unsettled by how all of your characters look like corpses. Even getting around the sourcing and sanitary reasons, there’s some significant reasons why it’s not the same. Plus, hey, someone gets paid to pose, so it’s technically creating jobs.

      • Yotomoe
        Yotomoe
        October 28, 2022 at 12:38 am | #

        Basically what Nerrin said.
        Also a living human can…move and pose in ways that are natural. And the shapes the skin makes when folding over itself. Where it stretches and squishes.

        Also there ARE life drawings with clothes, usual as a way to combine the lessons of anatomy with the lessons of cloth physics. But in the case of just figuring out anatomy a nude figure is absolutely best. And of course the way light interacts with/bounces off of skin.

      • Cerusee
        Cerusee
        October 28, 2022 at 1:20 am | #

        There’s kind of weird implication in this comment that people who do nude modeling for art classes are being coerced into the nudity, which is definitely not the case, or that there’s something inherently inappropriate about looking at alive human beings who aren’t covered in clothes. Which is also definitely not the case. If you’re worried about stuff like consent and autonomy, *living* people can actually consent to being observed and sketched nude, which corpses cannot.

      • Deathstalker
        Deathstalker
        October 29, 2022 at 3:18 pm | #

        Ah, The idea that study of corpses will actually result in life like aspects.

        If you are familiar with facial reconstruction artists from skulls, then at one point when I was looking into it, they frankly were simply wrong. The reason being they used measurements from corpses. When scientists, specifically biological anthropologists and doctors, looked into it, they found that those measurements changed fairly rapidly following death. Sometimes significantly. This was using things like MRI on people to get living values.

        So all facial reconstruction from skulls to about 2005 and much after is a guess. Now, being that in the past corpses were all that people had it was better than nothing. However, It was off by significant amounts. Some of the artists went yeah, whatever, to it too.

        So it would not surprise me to learn that other parts of the human body change similarly after death with regard to the whole life drawing.

        — Someone who has done some digital facial skeletal reconstruction (that they were not satisfied with) and not life drawing.

        Digital and not artists also tend to think about things differently, and the differences can be fascinating. I was talking to one artists who does a lot of visual and clay art about color and just how different it is to do traditional and 3d modeling of something, and color/light.

    • Awaiting Moderation
      Awaiting Moderation
      October 28, 2022 at 1:14 am | #

      I agree completely. Only done life drawing once, but I got over how uncomfortable I was feeling about it almost immediately once the time came to actually start drawing. Ended up talking with the model a bit during a break about the work too and found the conversation genuinely interesting. Kinda surprised myself by how completely okay the situation was for me, because my upbringing, while not as sheltered as Joyce’s, was definitely similar in a lot of ways.

    • StClair
      StClair
      October 28, 2022 at 4:16 am | #

      That was exactly my own experience.

    • Amós Batista
      Amós Batista
      October 28, 2022 at 3:40 pm | #

      Gonna confess it was hard to concentrate when I joined a life draw session, where the model was a ballet person. ‘:/

  17. Kitschensyngk
    Kitschensyngk
    October 28, 2022 at 12:17 am | #

    Dorothy didn’t “order” you to go anywhere. You asked her about life drawing classes and she found one for you. Whether you go or not is entirely up to you.

    • Cerusee
      Cerusee
      October 28, 2022 at 12:45 am | #

      It’s almost like Joyce didn’t mean it in the weird fascist way you’re implying she meant it

      • Taffy
        Taffy
        October 28, 2022 at 12:51 am | #

        And they call me literal-minded.

    • Liliet
      Liliet
      October 28, 2022 at 8:25 am | #

      She found one, talked to the instructor and bought Joyce supplies. This easily reads as an obligation to someone as bad with boundaries and raised to be obedient as Joyce.

  18. Suet
    Suet
    October 28, 2022 at 12:21 am | #

    As if everyone hasn’t rationalized being in that class with that response, Joyce.

    *quietly loops the intro of Summer Days by Martin Garrix on the sketchpad*

    “Dorothy’s orders”

    • Nicoleandmaggie
      Nicoleandmaggie
      October 28, 2022 at 7:34 am | #

      Excellent point.

      I wonder if she’ll ever be able to do things she wants without “blaming” other people. Hm, I guess I still have Catholic guilt even when I know I shouldn’t (and haven’t been Catholic since 4th grade). These things run deep.

  19. drs
    drs
    October 28, 2022 at 12:26 am | #

    Despite snapping at Dorothy, Joyce seems be following “orders” without much complaint.

    If they spend time drawing, then there’s still a chance for Becky to be working at Galasso’s when they do go.

    • anonymsly
      anonymsly
      October 28, 2022 at 9:58 am | #

      I really hope not, honestly. I don’t think Becky would be helpful.

  20. Reltzik
    Reltzik
    October 28, 2022 at 12:29 am | #

    Narrator voice over: “Joe would not, in fact, avert his eyes if the naked person was a lady.”

    • Steelbright
      Steelbright
      October 28, 2022 at 3:02 am | #

      I giggled

  21. cbwroses
    cbwroses
    October 28, 2022 at 12:34 am | #

    I’m really feeling Joe’s facial expressions in this strip.
    For some reason, it makes me think he’s feeling confident in a way that’s not normally expressed, especially since he’s a pretty confident character most of the time.

    It’s also a bit flirtatious, even though that shouldn’t be the case as I think he’s still tiptoeing around Joyce.

    • Steelbright
      Steelbright
      October 28, 2022 at 3:04 am | #

      I’ve been enjoying them too. It seems like he’s just happy with the interaction and not punishing himself for it… Just kinda letting it happen and being fondly amused at the weird direction Joyce is always going to go in

  22. MordWa
    MordWa
    October 28, 2022 at 12:39 am | #

    Soooo…. who will the model be?
    – Roz?
    – Mary?
    – Jacob
    – Ninja Rick??

    • Rabisch
      Rabisch
      October 28, 2022 at 10:13 am | #

      Mary’s boyfriend.

  23. Cerusee
    Cerusee
    October 28, 2022 at 12:43 am | #

    This still sounds like a date to me!

  24. Taffy
    Taffy
    October 28, 2022 at 12:49 am | #

    But pizza afterwards, right?

    • Cerusee
      Cerusee
      October 28, 2022 at 1:08 am | #

      I’m not much for dating myself, but if a date often involves both pizza and nudity, does it really matter what order they come in?

      • Taffy
        Taffy
        October 28, 2022 at 1:18 am | #

        This is true. Long as you get both at some point, it’s a good date. Even a Lunchable and comparing NSFW artists you follow would work.

        • Nova
          Nova
          October 28, 2022 at 8:07 am | #

          That sounds like such a nice, low energy date. I’m all out of spell slots today, and that sounds so comforting lol.

    • Cabbage
      Cabbage
      October 28, 2022 at 3:46 am | #

      Yeah, there needs to be pizza eventually! As Miss Manners said:

      There are three possible parts to a date, of which at least two must be offered: entertainment, food, and affection. It is customary to begin a series of dates with a great deal of entertainment, a moderate amount of food, and the merest suggestion of affection. As the amount of affection increases, the entertainment can be reduced proportionately. When the affection IS the entertainment, we no longer call it dating. Under no circumstances can the food be omitted.

  25. Bajj
    Bajj
    October 28, 2022 at 12:52 am | #

    I have been reading this pic since there were only three strips. I have shipped Joyce and Joe since the start. This comic is everything I have been wanting for a decade.

    Thank you. T_T <3

  26. jeffepp
    jeffepp
    October 28, 2022 at 1:03 am | #

    She wants to be escorted by her waifu and husbando, to show she doesn’t need more nakeds. She has nakeds at home.

  27. brionl
    brionl
    October 28, 2022 at 1:10 am | #

    Let’s just cut to the chase, and Joyce draws nekkid pictures of Joe.

    • Cerusee
      Cerusee
      October 28, 2022 at 1:23 am | #

      …I…well, now I hope that actually happens at some point, even if likely only in the most distant future of the comic. It could be very funny and sexy for them!

  28. Nono
    Nono
    October 28, 2022 at 1:32 am | #

    I kinda hope Joyce remembers to apologize to Dorothy at some point for making her mad.

    • Nova
      Nova
      October 28, 2022 at 8:11 am | #

      Sure, as long as everyone else apologizes to Joyce for upsetting her as well.

    • Taffy
      Taffy
      October 28, 2022 at 8:21 am | #

      Dorothy made herself mad, and she’ll get over it.

    • Liliet
      Liliet
      October 28, 2022 at 8:26 am | #

      Actually no, Joyce has no reason to apologize for existing the public while immersed in her own thoughts.

    • Keulen
      Keulen
      October 28, 2022 at 8:35 am | #

      It’s not really Joyce’s fault that Dorothy got mad about Joyce not noticing her for a few seconds.

    • alongcameaspider
      alongcameaspider
      October 28, 2022 at 9:20 am | #

      Yes how dare Joyce

      *checks notes*

      Not immediately notice Dorothy while obviously distracted by something else

  29. Icalasari
    Icalasari
    October 28, 2022 at 1:55 am | #

    Oh this is going to blow up in Joyce’s face

    • ButWhyASpoon
      ButWhyASpoon
      October 28, 2022 at 7:53 am | #

      All over Joyce’s Face. She’s getting the B.

  30. wrog
    wrog
    October 28, 2022 at 2:04 am | #

    or maybe model doesn’t show, they need somebody to fill in and, “hey what about you?”

  31. Casi
    Casi
    October 28, 2022 at 4:06 am | #

    That alt text, damn you willis. I give you all my hearty boos for that wonderful pun

  32. Daibhid C
    Daibhid C
    October 28, 2022 at 4:17 am | #

    “So, does that mean if the model’s a dude, you’re going to…”
    “No, because I am there for Legitimate Purposes.”

  33. Freezer
    Freezer
    October 28, 2022 at 4:23 am | #

    Who wants to bet that her class turns out to be drawing a bowl of fruit?

  34. ADD
    ADD
    October 28, 2022 at 7:01 am | #

    Creepo doesn’t take art classes anyway. He’s too busy working on his Singularity Engine.

    • davidbreslin101
      davidbreslin101
      October 28, 2022 at 7:09 pm | #

      I dunno, “you promised me flesh!” sounds pretty thirsty to me.

  35. Liliet
    Liliet
    October 28, 2022 at 7:41 am | #

    Oh god this is cute…

    And oh gosh, this is why I was saying it’s kinda messed up that Dorothy went that far over the line of what Joyce had actually asked her.

  36. ButWhyASpoon
    ButWhyASpoon
    October 28, 2022 at 7:48 am | #

    (Joe and Joyce are trapped naked in an Elevator Together)

    Joyce: “Joe, you Perv! Avert your Eyes! A Lady is Naked!”

    Joe: “If you punch me again, I’m going to actively stare at you.”

    Joyce: “Creep! You will not!”

    Joe: “Not only that, but I will be making critiques on your Naked Body spiced with Critical Analysis!”

    Joyce: “Oh! You beast!”

  37. Thanatos
    Thanatos
    October 28, 2022 at 9:15 am | #

    Who wants to take bets that it’s Rachel’s boyfriend? With her front and center in the class.

    • Nicoleandmaggie
      Nicoleandmaggie
      October 28, 2022 at 11:37 am | #

      More likely pharmacy lady! Or Galasso! My money is on Galasso if it’s someone we know.

  38. Rabisch
    Rabisch
    October 28, 2022 at 10:00 am | #

    Go with her, Joe, go with her!!!

  39. vulcanodon
    vulcanodon
    October 28, 2022 at 10:07 am | #

    Joyce has a whole part of her brain that creates scenarios about what other people could be thinking of her

    • vulcanodon
      vulcanodon
      October 28, 2022 at 10:09 am | #

      (also nobody I know who’s had a life drawing class found it an arousing experience.)

    • alongcameaspider
      alongcameaspider
      October 28, 2022 at 11:03 am | #

      Doesn’t everybody?

  40. JessWitt
    JessWitt
    October 28, 2022 at 10:51 am | #

    I’m just now realizing the possibility of the nude model being a prominent/supporting character.

    For no particular reason I’m thinking Jacob.

  41. Rainhat
    Rainhat
    October 28, 2022 at 10:57 am | #

    Well, Joyce is shouting and making demands, we’re back on track.

  42. Daniel M Ball
    Daniel M Ball
    October 28, 2022 at 12:45 pm | #

    Nope, can’t see ANY unexpected side effects or consequences to her plan here, nope, not a one…uh-uh, this is going to go perfectly….(Eeevil laugh)

  43. Nothri
    Nothri
    October 28, 2022 at 1:01 pm | #

    Well…if nothing else I could totally see Mike being so compelled to kick a naughty minded Joe in the balls that he comes out of his coma.

  44. Alex
    Alex
    October 28, 2022 at 1:41 pm | #

    Well this failed to get off the ground.

  45. Amós Batista
    Amós Batista
    October 28, 2022 at 2:14 pm | #

    I just loved Joyce’s naught face at 4th panel.

  46. C.T. Phipps
    C.T. Phipps
    October 28, 2022 at 2:21 pm | #

    Joyce has a sexual reaction to the female models.

    Thinks about her as Dorothy.

  47. Matthew Davis
    Matthew Davis
    October 28, 2022 at 10:54 pm | #

    I’m looking forward to Joyce sublimating her jealousy at Joe being around naked women as concern about him ogling them.

  48. The Wellerman
    The Wellerman
    October 29, 2022 at 12:01 am | #

    My attempt at meme thing:

    *plays “Godzilla Bio Wars” on hacked muzak*

    🎃Hope you are all having a great Halloween weekend so far!

    😔 Unfortunately due to unforeseen circumstances, the horror game i planned isn’t coming soon. Probably not even by Christmas. Maybe Valentine’s day?

    • The Wellerman
      The Wellerman
      October 29, 2022 at 12:02 am | #

      Sorry wrong section please ignore this.

  49. Felian
    Felian
    October 29, 2022 at 6:26 am | #

    So…. will Joyce also avert her eyes in case the model is a man, given that she thinks she’s a hetera? 😛 …. while getting to stare at a naked woman and thinking to herself that it’s a perfectly hetera thought to think that naturally, women are just looking more pleasing than men? 😛

  50. Serendipity
    Serendipity
    October 29, 2022 at 2:30 pm | #

    >Joyce thinking telling the truth proactively is the correct option
    >further evidence of neurodivergence

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