Hey Ana/Sue/Jen, I was hoping I could take you aside (ha ha) for a moment and say that today, literally just today, even though I first saw you here in the comments as Jen Aside like 12 years ago; I only just a few hours ago suddenly realized what Jen/Sue Aside is a pun for and I feel like a total idiot
Though admittedly they are the same person, are you just going to accept the word of some random person on the Internet that as far as you know could be me, Taffy, or Willis’s friend who inspired Mike?
Don’t be hard on yourself! I never noticed “Jen Aside” was a pun either. To me, the pun is a LOT more obvious on “Ana Chronistic” than “Jen Aside” — probably because “aside” is a common word by itself, whereas “chronistic” isn’t a common word at all, so clearly it must have a joke/pun/etc. to it.
I’ve decided that the campus is cursed by the Spirit of Mike, who causes Naughty Selfies to go to the wrong recipients in order to sow chaos.
So Leslie’s sexy shot for her cranky girlfriend is 100% going to Robin to be mistaken for a seduction attempt, Lucy’s pic for Jacob is going to Tony to infuriate Sarah, Joe’s attempt to send a (explicitly requested!) dick-pic to Joyce will go to Galasso.
Why Galasso? Because everything involving Galasso and sexuality is comedy gold.
“I think this is a coded order for a medium sausage.”
To be fair Billie was very drunk during that moment and the wider implications of that moment mean it’s probably a very good thing Jennifer has stayed sober.
It wasn’t just a moment. The attempted kiss didn’t just come out of nowhere. Though it hasn’t been so much a thing lately because they’re not living together anymore.
To be fair, Walky himself seems to recognise that the has a more “sibling-like” relationship with Jennifer than his own twin, because Sal was sent away for like, 4 years where it seems the Walkertons just pretended she didn’t exist after that.
Jennifer not really feeling “as close” to Sal makes sense
I feel like even before that, Jennifer was closer with Walky than with Sal. Like, their early bonding came when they were in the same kindergarten class, and Sal was in a different class. (https://www.dumbingofage.com/2022/comic/book-12/04-dont-stop-billie-ving/bighouse/ )
So not only does she have that same four year gap with Sal, they weren’t at a “sibling” level to begin with.
Y’all, Sirksome is just talking about the “is anyone cheating on anyone else by sending and/or looking at these lewds” debate that started when Joe confronted Dorothy about her photo.
Jennifer HYPOTHETICALLY sending Dorothy’s monogamous boyfriend a lewd is definitely in something of a fuzzy area, since Jennifer encouraged Dorothy to pass it off as a photo of herself. Like, that’s not a typical AITA post scenario, haha.
I want you to know that I hate you for this comment because you’ve activated my lizard homestuck brain and now I’m tryin to puzzle out if Joyce’s moirails would be Jennifer, or if it would be Amazi-Girl. It can’t be Sal, because Sal is everything Joyce ever wanted to be.
Blast it all, I never intended to return to this nonsense.
the joe gravatar is killing me here. just imagine if his secret nerd vice was homestuck instead of transformers. dude accidentally mentions his trollsona in front of amber and every horrible gremlin neuron in her brain fires off simultaneously
Honestly you could make a convincing argument for Roz considering Joyce’s response for Roz making her cry is “I need someone to call me out on my bullshit sometimes. Keep doing that.”
That, and Dorothy being pissed Joe has a better bust, Joyce turned on, and Amber being confused because he’s already registering as “brother” is the best possible outcome.
I mean, I never underestimate anyone’s capacity for irrational hatred of fictional characters, but most of what I’ve seen so far for Joe has been getting quickly shot down instead of gaining traction?
Like there were a couple of “why is he snooping through Joyce’s phone” comments but they were all being told, “he’s not, we know he’s not, we saw the notification come through while he was holding it just like he said”.
I’m just imagining a DoA themed Seek and Find book like Where’s Waldo? but it’s just Walky losing clothing across campus until he gets to Dorothy’s room.
If I remember my college days right, when you see clothes on the ground you absolutely don’t want to touch them, let alone steal them.
I went to a pretty horny college (even by college standards) and you simply don’t touch strange articles of clothing you find laying around.
Joyce said “she must’ve sent it to me by accident…twice” so Jennifer “Bisexuality is only a porn category” Billingsworth is probably going to believe that.
It was also a huge thing in the first seasons of NCIS, which helped spread it as slang to other places (Abby used it a lot). Not sure where “hinky” first originated, so I don’t know if this is “organic” slang to Indiana or something Joyce picked up through the cultural zeitgeist.
I’m midwestern– I think of it also having connotations of “sketchy”, but sometimes it just means odd or off (like a door or door joist can be hinky if the door doesn’t set right). I don’t think of it as nervous/jittery/worried etc.
I wouldn’t exactly say it’s common. It’s familiar to me and has been since I don’t know when, but I am Midwestern, so that doesn’t say much about if it’s prevalent in other regions… I do think being a less often used word is where some of its (to me, often humorous) impact comes from.
I guess it’s like…they’re not even really step siblings, I guess they’re about as close as whatever step siblings are up to in stereotypical bad porn?
There’s a hypothetical universe where they’re a lot more casual about their relationship growing up. But in the comic itself, it seems like the dynamic is seen as gross and upsetting on a unambiguous “ew that’s my brother” way
i mean even without the pseudo-sibling like dynamic, i still wouldn’t want walky or a walky-like person to see something like that unless i was already ‘charmed’ by him before. Tho at least it’s not like they were actually exes bc that’d also be bad too if a current partenr sees that over your shouldesr
Jennifer is… complicated. She undoubtedly DID seem to have a crush on him when they were younger, but I think that obviously got a good deal more complex as they got older, to where sending the boobs pic to him would really wig her out.
Do recall that she tried to kiss Sal while drunk, something I think she would be kind of appalled by while sober, and that’s the sibling she is nowhere near as close to. I think she’s got a lot of crossed wires about all of this.
If I shipped them, it probably wouldn’t stop me. At least the over the top “ew!!” seems to be one-sided — I think Walky has mostly been amused by the idea, probably because Jennifer is so vocally opposed.
Like a meaningful one? It has actually been a few days. They chatted briefly post Incelerator incident but Joyce was more understandably invested in her sister that day. Before that the last real talk they had was charting a guide to Joyce’s first sexual encounter. Joyce has actually been spending more time with Joe. That’s likely what lead to these recent Dorothy developments finally surfacing.
By “+1” I mean, yeah, I think Joyce pulling away from Dorothy to spend more and more time with Joe is part of what got Dorothy to start feeling more recognizably jealous. When Joyce was still jumping at the chance to spend time with Dorothy, Joe probably felt… well not less like a threat (since she definitely still registered him as potentially bad for Joyce), but not a threat to Dorothy’s relationship with Joyce.
It’s also undoubtedly important that Dorothy had already intellectually decided to back off and let Joyce be happy? Because she no longer had a platonic reason for feeling upset about their relationship, but the feelings were still there.
@ John: there’s a fine line between tsundere and real contempt, while western chars might tech fall under that archetype i think in some animanga it’d be a bit more clear when a tsundere likes a person, tho not that i’ve watched a ton of content lately but romance aside i think there’s been charas that are tech ‘tsundere’/standoff-ish to everyone rather than just the love interest
someone like billie would prolly drunkenly admit to maybe being attracted to walkys body but not personality if not “Yeah i’d totally hook up with Sal”
usually someone drops the term “Westermarck effect” by now, but maybe they stopped doing it because it’s for kids who are actually raised together as siblings before the age of 6, not two kids meeting each other for the first time on the first day of grade school.
So now we know Joyce saw the cleavage pics, but still doesn’t know why they were sent to her (nor that she was sent them in response to Joyce’s initial send mistake)
I wonder if Joe will tell her or if she will figure things out on her own
Doesn’t the way Joyce’s conversation with Dorothy is being rendered in the panels here kind of suggest that the photos she sent to Dorothy aren’t there anymore?
It kind of looks like mostly text bubbles now with just one photo.
Which….. I’m actually not sure is how things work. I think Dorothy can delete Joyce’s photos from her own version of the conversation, but I don’t think she could have deleted things from Joyce’s side without Amber or Amazi-Girl’s assistance…?
Excellent logic and reasoning all around! Jennifer, yes, that boobage image was for Walky. Don’t send any more. Joyce, you should definitely keep that pic. Refer to it frequently. 😀
Scientist: In the beginning, the bisexual panics were spaced by twenty four weeks. Then twelve, then six, then every two weeks. The last one, in Sydney, was a week. In four days we could be seeing a bisexual panic every eight hours until they are coming every four minutes. Marshal, we should witness a double event within seven days
I don’t see how she is homophobic? Having internalized biphobia maybe but I don’t remember her ever showing any particular dislike of gayness in general.
Why would we “delete” a picture by copying it into a folder the user doesn’t know about? We might want to let the user recover a file they’ve accidentally deleted, but then why wouldn’t we provide an undelete feature, or at least tell the user about the folder? Well suppose the user was running out of memory space and trying to delete pictures to get more space instead of paying to upgrade their service. Well, we certainly can’t have that.
Or the programmers are still working from the old desktop and folders/Recycle Bin paradigm, while Kids These Days don’t know any of that stuff because all is phone.
It should be mandatory for schools to teach kids how computers work. There are lots of really handy things even my shittiest laptop has been able to do that I could never do on my best phone, without ever downloading a new program.
The purpose of user data is to train our AIs. Why would we want to let them delete it? In fact, let’s just force them to keep it on our servers where it’ll be safe, from them.
I mean that folder usually purges everything after 30 days, Jennifer. (At least it does on my phone). I don’t think Joyce is at risk unless the cops/government is gonna be taking her phone to extract deleted lewds.
I’d actually been assuming Joe had held onto Joyce’s phone since the previous night, since we saw it in his hand earlier when he was asking about her music tastes. (Not for malicious reasons, just until he could check in with Dorothy.) But the series of events here makes so much sense and really came together in a lovely way.
– Joyce mis-sends something intended for Rosenthal, Joe to Roll, Perfect Cinnamon (Dorothy)*
– Dorothy, though initially stunned, quickly shifts into annoyance as she realizes who the photos must be for, and goes to Amber for help deleting them
– Amber instead encourages Dorothy to send a retaliatory photo because she’s “a trash goblin who craves mess”
– Dorothy does so, but the photo doesn’t go through
– While Dorothy is deliberating over this, she runs into Jennifer, who “helps” out by taking a selfie of herself and sending it to Dorothy’s mysterious paramour, but ONLY after making sure Dorothy wasn’t sending lewds to Walky
– This photo, Joyce sees immediately and is puzzled by, but she’s also distracted and doesn’t think much of it**
– Dorothy eventually gets up the courage(?) to send the photo again
– Since Joyce’s phone is currently in Joe’s hand while Joyce and Becky dance and sing along to music that’s playing on it, Joe is the one who happens to see the photo come in
– This means the text is no longer unread, so Joyce no longer has a notification to spot
– …until today, when she opens the text message conversation SPECIFICALLY to reassure Jennifer that the photo of her boobs was “accidentally” sent to her, not Walky
Like, this is a truly impressive cascade, and I’m leaving out some parts (Jennifer’s nightmare, running into Alice, having a fallout with Raidah, spotting Ethan and Asher — all necessary to put her into the position of being here, now, to witness Dorothy’s flood of lewds for Walky, so that she can realize who her own photo got sent to and be distressed about it).
I had been trying to figure out how on earth Joyce managed to accidentally send those first pics to Dorothy instead of Joe. Accidentally tapping on Roll vs Rosenthal makes sooo much sense and finally solves the mystery for me.
“roll vs Rosenthal” makes sense for why Joyce picked the wrong person to sent the shots to.
But even without that, another possibility is that instead of going into her list of contacts to text, she just looked at existing text threads. Since she probably communicates with Joe and Dorothy most frequently, those 2 message threads will probably both be at the top of her list of text exchanges.
This is true. I would beeeeet Joyce has an iPhone, of the options, and iPhones definitely do that.
Still, I love the Roll, Perfect Cinnamon setup. My * on it was going to be that I think it’s super IC for Joyce to have her contacts set up like this. A lot of folks just put people in by their first names, but of course Joyce would have both.
My ** was going to be that I think it is SOME sort of foreshadowing that Joyce was so unmoved by Jennifer’s cleavage, since her “crawl into them and be warm and safe forever” moment back in like 2012 is one of the moments Bi Joyce Truthers probably remember very clearly.
That she was unmoved by them could have meant a lot of things (and still can!), but it is currently serving as an eyebrow-raising contrast for her tiny wibbly whispered speech bubbles wrt Dorothy’s.
ALSO: while I maintain that Joe holding onto Joyce’s phone would be one of those “oh, maybe he shouldn’t have done that” things that’s actually TOTALLY forgivable especially for teenagers, ESPECIALLY if he wanted to give Dorothy a shoulder to lean on and help her parse through her feelings (which it does kind of seem was one of his motivations)…
I think him giving her back her phone was probably something Joe did very conscientiously, because he IS trying very very hard here. It brings to mind how, when a tipsy Joyce flopped back in his lap to demand smooches, he immediately held up both his empty hands to prove he wasn’t so much accidentally touching her in a Lewd Way. And he announced it as such, too.
There is a (not difficult to understand & sympathize with) degree of self-consciousness here, which I think would exist no matter what, but which I imagine HAS BEEN magnified by conversations he’s had with both Sarah and Dorothy.
So, like, on reflection, of course he wouldn’t hold onto her phone. He’d have been too aware that that’s something Scummy Boyfriends do, and he is trying so hard not to be a scummy boyfriend.
(Maaaaan do I want a poly thing to happen here where he and Dorothy are both dating Joyce; where years from now, he might tease Dorothy for having been overprotective, because in hindsight it’s obvious to all of them that a certain percent of that overprotectiveness was sublimated bi feelings. That teasing is just extremely cute in my head.) (I also like to think about how the three of them are all still learning & growing in different ways, and how they’d each have different things to offer each other, very much including Joe+Dorothy, even if the two of them keep it queerplatonic.)
Man for a bunch of kids who (at this point on the sliding timescale) were probably born after the first iPhone, this bunch really just send pics blindly without even checking the name it’s going to, huh?
Being fair only Joyce and Jennifer did that. Joyce has been very sheltered and only just got onto the world of sexting. Jennifer is just Jennifer, doing things blindly without thinking of consequences is how she rolls.
Jennifer didn’t care who it was going to, as long as it WASN’T going to Walky.
(She also deliberately cropped out her head, and honestly sending lewds is a lot safer if they aren’t super identifiable as you.)
So, honestly what hoisted her by her own petard here was not being interested ENOUGH in Dorothy’s personal life to care who else Dorothy might be sending lewds to, haha.
I’m pretty lax on checking who the pics are being sent to because I almost exclusively send my SO pictures of weird bugs. Doesn’t really matter who I send those to.
Also, Gen Alpha is… not great with tech, actually. From all reports we’ve really failed them by assuming they’re all digital natives. Awareness of stuff like “the internet is forever, don’t upload it if you don’t want it leaked” really does not seem to be common knowledge.
Problem with a threesome is, Dorothy probably has no romantic interest in joe (on account of his old horn-dog days, among other things) so Dorothy-joyce-joe is out, and Joyce (probably) has no interest in walky so dorothy-joyce-walky is out. And Jennifer is in a weird headspace so Dorothy -joyce-jennifer is out.
Not sure how Joe or Walky would react if offered a 3some. Old joe would have jumped at it but now he might reject it because he is trying to change/be better. Walky might just be confused.
Don’t forget that Dorothy already tried to float the idea of a threesome with Joyce in the afterglow, and Walky WAS weirded out. Possibly to head off any chance of repeating themelf, and possibly because the irony is very funny, Willis has had both Joyce and Walky repeatedly express some level of disgust at the idea of being together.
(I bet Joe would be super nervous, but we know from some things he’s said about Sarah that at least the fantasy of sex with a woman who’s glaring at him the whole time does kinda do it for him. So some of the nerves might also be excitement, though I’m sure New Joe would want to quadruple check that Dorothy and Joyce were both okay with the idea of him touching Dorothy.)
With/from, now that I think back on it, someone who I had never actually met or even (because this was the 90s, before we had phones) exchanged pictures.
I was – like the kids in this comic – very dumb, young, and horny.
“regrettably”, you say? do tell us more, joyce.
i actually don’t hate walky/dorothy (i was gonna make a playlist for them a while back but i never got further than “love you madly” by cake), but dorothy clearly doesn’t know what she wants, or rather she has multiple conflicting desires. i hope she finds a combination and a compromise which satisfies her.
This is the straightest possible response to the straightest possible response to the original accidental lewd selfies. We’re just straighting all over the place.
Fun fact! If you straight your way toward the horizon, you will eventually return to your starting point. Total spherical unstraighted travel by straighting! Clearly, QED, the harder you het, the sooner you hom. That’s just match.
the hidden folder advice sounds familiar. Like there’s a strip where someone’s giving it to Jennifer type of familiar. The closest I can find is Dorothy asking Amber if she can delete a photo off the cloud.
…Jennifer is going to recommend that she sends one back as a joke, isn’t she? And then Joyce, not realizing that she (accidentally) sent one earlier, sends a a new titty pic to Dorothy. Cut to Dorothy, naked in bed with Walky, having just ravaged each other, with Dorothy thinking that she’s finally overcome any feelings of horniness towards Joyce via Walky sex. Then she gets the new Joyce titty pic. And all those feelings towards Joyce come back all at once, but now with a Walky right next to her. And the cycle continues.
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Hey Ana/Sue/Jen, I was hoping I could take you aside (ha ha) for a moment and say that today, literally just today, even though I first saw you here in the comments as Jen Aside like 12 years ago; I only just a few hours ago suddenly realized what Jen/Sue Aside is a pun for and I feel like a total idiot
NGL, I had no idea Ana Chronistic and Jen Aside were the same person until now.
Though admittedly they are the same person, are you just going to accept the word of some random person on the Internet that as far as you know could be me, Taffy, or Willis’s friend who inspired Mike?
Especially one that just admitted to being a dumbass who took 12 years to notice a simple pun!
(Although funny enough I got what Ana Chronistic was a pun for the first time I saw her use that name)
Don’t be hard on yourself! I never noticed “Jen Aside” was a pun either. To me, the pun is a LOT more obvious on “Ana Chronistic” than “Jen Aside” — probably because “aside” is a common word by itself, whereas “chronistic” isn’t a common word at all, so clearly it must have a joke/pun/etc. to it.
Sometimes ago, I thought Ana would be an alt for Willis.
Naw naw. Chronistic is the alt for Willis. Ana is the alt for Damn You!
0 dad energy. ~<3
My stage name is Suzie Cidal!
I still don’t get it.
…oh. Oh no.
Yeah, I’m going to bed. No one’s gonna have a better comment than Ana tonight. Can’t beat perfection.
Cheers!
And she’s back in her rightful spot at the top of the comments, too!
All is right I’m the universe. All is calm.
Who am I kidding? This is a freaking amazing shit show.
All is right in this little corner of the universe, for now.
I’ve decided that the campus is cursed by the Spirit of Mike, who causes Naughty Selfies to go to the wrong recipients in order to sow chaos.
So Leslie’s sexy shot for her cranky girlfriend is 100% going to Robin to be mistaken for a seduction attempt, Lucy’s pic for Jacob is going to Tony to infuriate Sarah, Joe’s attempt to send a (explicitly requested!) dick-pic to Joyce will go to Galasso.
Why Galasso? Because everything involving Galasso and sexuality is comedy gold.
“I think this is a coded order for a medium sausage.”
Joe: MEDIUM!?
Jason is the one with the large sausage according to Sal.
Nono, ‘medium’ as in “one who communicates with the dead”. You know, for Ghost Mike.
And Mike does canonically enjoy sausage.
…
ON HIS PIZZA, PERVS!!
Eh, both.
yeah, I’m pretty sure he’ll take it any way
Joyce also canonically enjoys sausage.
But not on her pizza.
surprise! you have become lesbian
*bi
Thank you for this!! (Also accidentally hit the report button whilst trying to to reply, I am sorry)
I’m not drunk enough to decide where Jen potentially sending Walky anything falls on anything.
She considers him like a brother because they grew up together
She grew up with Sal, too, and she clearly wants to hit that.
To be fair Billie was very drunk during that moment and the wider implications of that moment mean it’s probably a very good thing Jennifer has stayed sober.
It wasn’t just a moment. The attempted kiss didn’t just come out of nowhere. Though it hasn’t been so much a thing lately because they’re not living together anymore.
Would you mind posting the link? I can’t find it. Thank you!
I believe they’re referring to this strip:
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/03-the-first-step-towards-recovery/unimpressed/
Thank you!
To be fair, Walky himself seems to recognise that the has a more “sibling-like” relationship with Jennifer than his own twin, because Sal was sent away for like, 4 years where it seems the Walkertons just pretended she didn’t exist after that.
Jennifer not really feeling “as close” to Sal makes sense
I feel like even before that, Jennifer was closer with Walky than with Sal. Like, their early bonding came when they were in the same kindergarten class, and Sal was in a different class. (https://www.dumbingofage.com/2022/comic/book-12/04-dont-stop-billie-ving/bighouse/ )
So not only does she have that same four year gap with Sal, they weren’t at a “sibling” level to begin with.
Seems pretty cut and dry, she finds the idea repellent
Y’all, Sirksome is just talking about the “is anyone cheating on anyone else by sending and/or looking at these lewds” debate that started when Joe confronted Dorothy about her photo.
Jennifer HYPOTHETICALLY sending Dorothy’s monogamous boyfriend a lewd is definitely in something of a fuzzy area, since Jennifer encouraged Dorothy to pass it off as a photo of herself. Like, that’s not a typical AITA post scenario, haha.
Joyce you have a boyfriend
Right, so the girlfriend slot is open.
And Dina can be her kismesis.
Kiss me sis you say?
That’s what I heard.
I want you to know that I hate you for this comment because you’ve activated my lizard homestuck brain and now I’m tryin to puzzle out if Joyce’s moirails would be Jennifer, or if it would be Amazi-Girl. It can’t be Sal, because Sal is everything Joyce ever wanted to be.
Blast it all, I never intended to return to this nonsense.
It’s plainly Sarah, be fucking serious.
the joe gravatar is killing me here. just imagine if his secret nerd vice was homestuck instead of transformers. dude accidentally mentions his trollsona in front of amber and every horrible gremlin neuron in her brain fires off simultaneously
aaaand i’m amber, this is perfect
that’s most of them, yes?
You know not only has she read it she’s written tons of Dirk/Dave.
There’s a line in the Epilogues referencing an argument she had.
I mean can you imagine.
Wouldn’t that be Walky?
Honestly you could make a convincing argument for Roz considering Joyce’s response for Roz making her cry is “I need someone to call me out on my bullshit sometimes. Keep doing that.”
As a man who once said that Sarah was Joyce’s moirail, I will never escape Homestuck.
this is one of the best comments i have ever read on here
+1 for noting that.
*adds new euphemism to list*
Polyamory is the only way forward.
And? Literally what is she doing wrong rn other than being surprised by a boob pic she didn’t expect and maybedefinitely liking it?
How dare she have eyes that occasionally take in other attractive people!!
Poly definitely isn’t for me, but at least I can recognize that toxic monogamy exists, pff.
How’s that Bible quote go? “If my eye offends you, cut yours out” or something?
Something like that.
I think Joyce knows Joe isn’t terribly likely to be concerned about her looking at boobs.
That said, she was the one who was trying to get Walky to show her the naughty selfies he got from her, so she’s nothing if not fairly inappropriate.
The angle of the “camera” in the last three panels make Joyce look like a Pokemon trainer from the first generation or three.
A sudden Dorothy appeared! And she’s gone wild.
Sudden Dorothy!
Joyce wants to battle!Joyce is confused! She hurt herself in her confusion!
Giving me some major Safari Zone flashbacks, you bringing that up.
STAY IN THE GODDAMN BALL, CHANSEY!
So whats’ the over under on the comments going bonkers with people hating Joe for not instantly telling Joyce he saw the cleavage shot?
Didn’t that already happen?
Sounds like sitcom hijinks are going to ensue, because neither of them knows the other knows about it yet.
It only ends when Joe sends a pic to all three of them wearing one of Amber’s bras. With his cleavage being the best looking of the entire lot.
That, and Dorothy being pissed Joe has a better bust, Joyce turned on, and Amber being confused because he’s already registering as “brother” is the best possible outcome.
The Amber bit needs working.
AG, by herself, looks and says “Nice” with a whistle. There’s a silent beat panel, then she says “He’s not MY step brother.” and looks again.
Joe’s delighted that all the ladies are into his manly cleavage hair.
I mean, I never underestimate anyone’s capacity for irrational hatred of fictional characters, but most of what I’ve seen so far for Joe has been getting quickly shot down instead of gaining traction?
Like there were a couple of “why is he snooping through Joyce’s phone” comments but they were all being told, “he’s not, we know he’s not, we saw the notification come through while he was holding it just like he said”.
LMFAO IM DEAD XD
*plays “Pa$$ the Time Neutron Star Remix” on Joyce’s totally jailbroken/rooted phone*
Since you’ve rooted it, can you tell us how many hundreds of unread messages she’s got?
LOL not sure, probably only a couple dozen considering the time dilation of this comic
also not really sure if it’s a jailbreak or a root, given all we know is that Ruttech is a stand-in for Apple and Samsung, apparently XD
There’s probably a dozen from “Dad”, and over 300 from “Carol Brown”.
Joyce and Jen have entered a new friendship challenge! Will they leave Walky’s stuff there to potentially be stolen? Lets find out!
Wonderful +1
I bet it’s already been stolen
I’m just imagining a DoA themed Seek and Find book like Where’s Waldo? but it’s just Walky losing clothing across campus until he gets to Dorothy’s room.
Wondering if his underwear is outside, in the hallway, or somehow still on after he got into Dotty’s room.
Mary walks past and thinks the Rapture happened and goes into full catatonic shock.
Isn’t she Catholic?
…wait… no…
If I remember my college days right, when you see clothes on the ground you absolutely don’t want to touch them, let alone steal them.
I went to a pretty horny college (even by college standards) and you simply don’t touch strange articles of clothing you find laying around.
Walky, ever the red herring. Would Jennifer still feel sick if that shot was meant for… this was last night?
I fear no man, but this thing… It scares me. Not as to why, but who.
Jennifer is simply ignoring that Dorothy sent Joyce a pic of her tatas huh. Sharp as a tack.
Expert-level reporter. Misses nothing.
Joyce said “she must’ve sent it to me by accident…twice” so Jennifer “Bisexuality is only a porn category” Billingsworth is probably going to believe that.
The jacket and bag on the floor reminds me of when Walky used to fuck with Joyce by pretending he got raptured.
I greatly misread that sentence.
But not by much. The Walkyverse is worth perusing.
Yeah. Maybe “used to screw with Joyce” would have been clea-…
… nope.
…okay, “hinky” is a new one on me. Is that a Midwestern thing?
Yes, though the alt-text I assume is referencing this John Mulaney routine.
Hinky is a perfectly valid word. You can find it in dictionaries and everything.
I believe you mean that it is a perfectly cromulent word.
The cromulent-est!
It was also a huge thing in the first seasons of NCIS, which helped spread it as slang to other places (Abby used it a lot). Not sure where “hinky” first originated, so I don’t know if this is “organic” slang to Indiana or something Joyce picked up through the cultural zeitgeist.
Mademoiselle from Armentières?
No. It’s a common word in wide use in the English language.
I’m from the South so like Rassilon, I assumed hinky was a Midwestern slang word. I’ve never heard it before.
If it means “nervous, jittery, worried, or similar it is plain “English”, if it is slang and means something else, it is probably USA English.
It’s got connotations of “weird” and “unsettling” and “suspect”.
I’m midwestern– I think of it also having connotations of “sketchy”, but sometimes it just means odd or off (like a door or door joist can be hinky if the door doesn’t set right). I don’t think of it as nervous/jittery/worried etc.
Hmm… I guess I was thinking of something feeling hinky meaning that it makes the person looking at it feel nervous/jittery/worried.
This is the first time in my over 30 years of life I’ve read this word.
I wouldn’t exactly say it’s common. It’s familiar to me and has been since I don’t know when, but I am Midwestern, so that doesn’t say much about if it’s prevalent in other regions… I do think being a less often used word is where some of its (to me, often humorous) impact comes from.
Hinky has been around in most American southern and western regions for a century or more.
Technically British! de Mademoiselle from Armentières didn’t get to know the bulk of the Army to be forgotten!
I read it as “Kinky” . . .
I guess it’s like…they’re not even really step siblings, I guess they’re about as close as whatever step siblings are up to in stereotypical bad porn?
There’s a hypothetical universe where they’re a lot more casual about their relationship growing up. But in the comic itself, it seems like the dynamic is seen as gross and upsetting on a unambiguous “ew that’s my brother” way
i mean even without the pseudo-sibling like dynamic, i still wouldn’t want walky or a walky-like person to see something like that unless i was already ‘charmed’ by him before. Tho at least it’s not like they were actually exes bc that’d also be bad too if a current partenr sees that over your shouldesr
Something about “a walky-like person” specifically? Because Jennifer seemed fine letting Dorothy send it to anyone as long as it wasn’t him?
Jennifer is… complicated. She undoubtedly DID seem to have a crush on him when they were younger, but I think that obviously got a good deal more complex as they got older, to where sending the boobs pic to him would really wig her out.
Do recall that she tried to kiss Sal while drunk, something I think she would be kind of appalled by while sober, and that’s the sibling she is nowhere near as close to. I think she’s got a lot of crossed wires about all of this.
If I shipped them, it probably wouldn’t stop me. At least the over the top “ew!!” seems to be one-sided — I think Walky has mostly been amused by the idea, probably because Jennifer is so vocally opposed.
Walky got Raptured again!
what does hinky mean?
Basically means fishy, suspect, shady
“sus”, as the Youth say
at first i thought it said ‘kinky’ lol
There’s overlap!
And, the hamster gets jiggled awake, and starts turning it’s wheel.
The hamster’s name is Maytag.
When was the last time dorothy and joyce actually talked to each other
Like a meaningful one? It has actually been a few days. They chatted briefly post Incelerator incident but Joyce was more understandably invested in her sister that day. Before that the last real talk they had was charting a guide to Joyce’s first sexual encounter. Joyce has actually been spending more time with Joe. That’s likely what lead to these recent Dorothy developments finally surfacing.
+1
By “+1” I mean, yeah, I think Joyce pulling away from Dorothy to spend more and more time with Joe is part of what got Dorothy to start feeling more recognizably jealous. When Joyce was still jumping at the chance to spend time with Dorothy, Joe probably felt… well not less like a threat (since she definitely still registered him as potentially bad for Joyce), but not a threat to Dorothy’s relationship with Joyce.
It’s also undoubtedly important that Dorothy had already intellectually decided to back off and let Joyce be happy? Because she no longer had a platonic reason for feeling upset about their relationship, but the feelings were still there.
I think it was the drank party, which I think was last Tuesday.
By the aging of my dumbs,
Something hinky this way comes.
I wish there was a “like this comment” option for this specifically
Same
I applaud you!
♡
she saw it!!!! joyce saw it!!!!!!!!!
joyce
joyce
you can save dorothy from walky
it is in your power
you can do it
also don’t complain you were literally just asking walky for the joyce pics when this whole time you had one all your own
this is delicious, trash goblin is gleeful 😀
Walky even showed her the proper course of action: shed clothing, run toward booty. Like the no-pants Sunday nachitos thing. But stickier.
At this point I really do think it’s more saving Walky from Dorothy.
Not from Joyce’s point of view ^_^
“A certain point of view?“
The smut was inside you(r phone) all along!
Dang. This really puts a dang ol’ hitch in my Walky/Billie comic.
Also Jennifer asked Dorothy if she was gonna send it to Walky and Dorothy said No so if she did send it to him that’d be pretty messed.
Everything is possible in fanfiction land, Yoto! 😀
Eh, Billie’s always had more than a hint of tsundere in there.
Do tsundere’s usually gag at the idea of getting with their crush. That’s a LOTTA tsun.
As a former Lotta Tsun, I definitely did that in high school
performatively of course
No, but I’ve seen shippers work their way past much worse
OK so she’s mostly Tsun-tsun with Walky, and very little Dere-dere, But how much of that gagging was performative?
@ John: there’s a fine line between tsundere and real contempt, while western chars might tech fall under that archetype i think in some animanga it’d be a bit more clear when a tsundere likes a person, tho not that i’ve watched a ton of content lately but romance aside i think there’s been charas that are tech ‘tsundere’/standoff-ish to everyone rather than just the love interest
someone like billie would prolly drunkenly admit to maybe being attracted to walkys body but not personality if not “Yeah i’d totally hook up with Sal”
I’d have thought the frequently referring to each other a siblings would have been hitch enough
Didn’t stop her from tryin’ to smooch Sal, tbf.
She’s worked on her sibling dynamic with Walky a lot more, with Sal she tends to get stuck.
usually someone drops the term “Westermarck effect” by now, but maybe they stopped doing it because it’s for kids who are actually raised together as siblings before the age of 6, not two kids meeting each other for the first time on the first day of grade school.
Wanna bet? It’s not that clear cut.
womp womp
Pff, you’re fine. You’ve just been jossed, in the fine tradition of fandom people everywhere.
i mean they don’t always have to be ‘in chara’ tho i guess being able to immerse with their personalities would be fun
or maybe a ‘personality swap au’ XD
Don’t worry, it was already really out of character,, if you didn’t care about that then you don’t gotta care about it now
Jeez, that’s rude.
Eh, I am okay with that, I don’t particularly like yoto. Though I mean it, if he didn’t care then, he doesn’t have reason to care now.
I read them, and the characterization seemed fine to me, so. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Your opinions on what’s IC and what isn’t are not universal.
Where is that nowadays? I remember you first posted it on imgur but its probably been purged from there.
So now we know Joyce saw the cleavage pics, but still doesn’t know why they were sent to her (nor that she was sent them in response to Joyce’s initial send mistake)
I wonder if Joe will tell her or if she will figure things out on her own
I was gonna say she’ll probably figure it out pretty quick when she just scrolls back a bit.
But then I remembered how oblivious she was when she was actually sending them sooooooooo maybe not
Doesn’t the way Joyce’s conversation with Dorothy is being rendered in the panels here kind of suggest that the photos she sent to Dorothy aren’t there anymore?
It kind of looks like mostly text bubbles now with just one photo.
Which….. I’m actually not sure is how things work. I think Dorothy can delete Joyce’s photos from her own version of the conversation, but I don’t think she could have deleted things from Joyce’s side without Amber or Amazi-Girl’s assistance…?
Could be wrong!
I would also not be a fan of sending pics unintentionally to my sibling (pseudo or otherwise).
At this point you should just set up a group chat, that way at least everything gets to the intended recipient.
Should totally be named after that ouroboros polycule comment walky mentioned haha
Well I can see no hilarious hijinks resulting from this misunderstanding.
Excellent logic and reasoning all around! Jennifer, yes, that boobage image was for Walky. Don’t send any more. Joyce, you should definitely keep that pic. Refer to it frequently. 😀
I wonder how long until the poll switches to asking if Joyce is into Dotty
Oh yeah I forgot I drew Dina
Dina in a suit smoking a cigarette
❤️
I feel like we can make this happen in canon. Just gotta get Dina to hang out with Sal more
I confused the smoke with a big year in her clothes which knowing you wasn’t particularly surprising.
she ain’t just hot, she SMOKIN’ XD <3
for reals Yoto, chef kiss with this one bruh B)
*plays “Low Rider” by War on hacked muzak*
lol i need a bartender spinoff manga with her as the lead XD
Link no longer works 😢
Link no longer works 😢
Welp, that definitely caused me to do a not-un-Joyce-like squee.
Now that we’ve had the Dorothy bisexual panic, I guess we’re gonna find out if we get the Joyce bisexual panic.
Well, we already know Jennifer is in Bisexual Panic.
But in a different sense.
She’s biphobic, you see.
and possibly homophobic
Scientist: In the beginning, the bisexual panics were spaced by twenty four weeks. Then twelve, then six, then every two weeks. The last one, in Sydney, was a week. In four days we could be seeing a bisexual panic every eight hours until they are coming every four minutes. Marshal, we should witness a double event within seven days
𝄞♭ 4/4 |♪♪♩ ♪♪♩•
Ffff amazing
I don’t see how she is homophobic? Having internalized biphobia maybe but I don’t remember her ever showing any particular dislike of gayness in general.
I would assume not immediately, but who knows
Whatever else is going on with her, Jennifer *does* still have some good advice about trying to delete pics
Something something she carries terrible and useful knowledge something.
Why would we “delete” a picture by copying it into a folder the user doesn’t know about? We might want to let the user recover a file they’ve accidentally deleted, but then why wouldn’t we provide an undelete feature, or at least tell the user about the folder? Well suppose the user was running out of memory space and trying to delete pictures to get more space instead of paying to upgrade their service. Well, we certainly can’t have that.
Or the programmers are still working from the old desktop and folders/Recycle Bin paradigm, while Kids These Days don’t know any of that stuff because all is phone.
It should be mandatory for schools to teach kids how computers work. There are lots of really handy things even my shittiest laptop has been able to do that I could never do on my best phone, without ever downloading a new program.
The purpose of user data is to train our AIs. Why would we want to let them delete it? In fact, let’s just force them to keep it on our servers where it’ll be safe, from them.
I mean that folder usually purges everything after 30 days, Jennifer. (At least it does on my phone). I don’t think Joyce is at risk unless the cops/government is gonna be taking her phone to extract deleted lewds.
Also? Masterful setup and payoff here.
I’d actually been assuming Joe had held onto Joyce’s phone since the previous night, since we saw it in his hand earlier when he was asking about her music tastes. (Not for malicious reasons, just until he could check in with Dorothy.) But the series of events here makes so much sense and really came together in a lovely way.
– Joyce mis-sends something intended for Rosenthal, Joe to Roll, Perfect Cinnamon (Dorothy)*
– Dorothy, though initially stunned, quickly shifts into annoyance as she realizes who the photos must be for, and goes to Amber for help deleting them
– Amber instead encourages Dorothy to send a retaliatory photo because she’s “a trash goblin who craves mess”
– Dorothy does so, but the photo doesn’t go through
– While Dorothy is deliberating over this, she runs into Jennifer, who “helps” out by taking a selfie of herself and sending it to Dorothy’s mysterious paramour, but ONLY after making sure Dorothy wasn’t sending lewds to Walky
– This photo, Joyce sees immediately and is puzzled by, but she’s also distracted and doesn’t think much of it**
– Dorothy eventually gets up the courage(?) to send the photo again
– Since Joyce’s phone is currently in Joe’s hand while Joyce and Becky dance and sing along to music that’s playing on it, Joe is the one who happens to see the photo come in
– This means the text is no longer unread, so Joyce no longer has a notification to spot
– …until today, when she opens the text message conversation SPECIFICALLY to reassure Jennifer that the photo of her boobs was “accidentally” sent to her, not Walky
Like, this is a truly impressive cascade, and I’m leaving out some parts (Jennifer’s nightmare, running into Alice, having a fallout with Raidah, spotting Ethan and Asher — all necessary to put her into the position of being here, now, to witness Dorothy’s flood of lewds for Walky, so that she can realize who her own photo got sent to and be distressed about it).
Nicely done, Willis!
I had been trying to figure out how on earth Joyce managed to accidentally send those first pics to Dorothy instead of Joe. Accidentally tapping on Roll vs Rosenthal makes sooo much sense and finally solves the mystery for me.
“roll vs Rosenthal” makes sense for why Joyce picked the wrong person to sent the shots to.
But even without that, another possibility is that instead of going into her list of contacts to text, she just looked at existing text threads. Since she probably communicates with Joe and Dorothy most frequently, those 2 message threads will probably both be at the top of her list of text exchanges.
This is true. I would beeeeet Joyce has an iPhone, of the options, and iPhones definitely do that.
Still, I love the Roll, Perfect Cinnamon setup. My * on it was going to be that I think it’s super IC for Joyce to have her contacts set up like this. A lot of folks just put people in by their first names, but of course Joyce would have both.
My ** was going to be that I think it is SOME sort of foreshadowing that Joyce was so unmoved by Jennifer’s cleavage, since her “crawl into them and be warm and safe forever” moment back in like 2012 is one of the moments Bi Joyce Truthers probably remember very clearly.
That she was unmoved by them could have meant a lot of things (and still can!), but it is currently serving as an eyebrow-raising contrast for her tiny wibbly whispered speech bubbles wrt Dorothy’s.
ALSO: while I maintain that Joe holding onto Joyce’s phone would be one of those “oh, maybe he shouldn’t have done that” things that’s actually TOTALLY forgivable especially for teenagers, ESPECIALLY if he wanted to give Dorothy a shoulder to lean on and help her parse through her feelings (which it does kind of seem was one of his motivations)…
I think him giving her back her phone was probably something Joe did very conscientiously, because he IS trying very very hard here. It brings to mind how, when a tipsy Joyce flopped back in his lap to demand smooches, he immediately held up both his empty hands to prove he wasn’t so much accidentally touching her in a Lewd Way. And he announced it as such, too.
There is a (not difficult to understand & sympathize with) degree of self-consciousness here, which I think would exist no matter what, but which I imagine HAS BEEN magnified by conversations he’s had with both Sarah and Dorothy.
So, like, on reflection, of course he wouldn’t hold onto her phone. He’d have been too aware that that’s something Scummy Boyfriends do, and he is trying so hard not to be a scummy boyfriend.
(Maaaaan do I want a poly thing to happen here where he and Dorothy are both dating Joyce; where years from now, he might tease Dorothy for having been overprotective, because in hindsight it’s obvious to all of them that a certain percent of that overprotectiveness was sublimated bi feelings. That teasing is just extremely cute in my head.) (I also like to think about how the three of them are all still learning & growing in different ways, and how they’d each have different things to offer each other, very much including Joe+Dorothy, even if the two of them keep it queerplatonic.)
Man for a bunch of kids who (at this point on the sliding timescale) were probably born after the first iPhone, this bunch really just send pics blindly without even checking the name it’s going to, huh?
Being fair only Joyce and Jennifer did that. Joyce has been very sheltered and only just got onto the world of sexting. Jennifer is just Jennifer, doing things blindly without thinking of consequences is how she rolls.
Jennifer didn’t care who it was going to, as long as it WASN’T going to Walky.
(She also deliberately cropped out her head, and honestly sending lewds is a lot safer if they aren’t super identifiable as you.)
So, honestly what hoisted her by her own petard here was not being interested ENOUGH in Dorothy’s personal life to care who else Dorothy might be sending lewds to, haha.
I’m pretty lax on checking who the pics are being sent to because I almost exclusively send my SO pictures of weird bugs. Doesn’t really matter who I send those to.
The Committee for Bug Privacy would like a word with you.
Also, Gen Alpha is… not great with tech, actually. From all reports we’ve really failed them by assuming they’re all digital natives. Awareness of stuff like “the internet is forever, don’t upload it if you don’t want it leaked” really does not seem to be common knowledge.
…and…now she has.
Walky dont just leave your coat and bag there.
Something hinked this way comes…
I know Walky is Walky…
but seeing him toss clothes and Backpack willy-nilly…
just doesn’t sit well. :O
I LOL’d at the coat and backpack just lying there. Love a good visual gag
Dorothy’s trying to jump-start a threesome?
Dorothy’s trying, like, four different things at cross-purposes right now.
Problem with a threesome is, Dorothy probably has no romantic interest in joe (on account of his old horn-dog days, among other things) so Dorothy-joyce-joe is out, and Joyce (probably) has no interest in walky so dorothy-joyce-walky is out. And Jennifer is in a weird headspace so Dorothy -joyce-jennifer is out.
Not sure how Joe or Walky would react if offered a 3some. Old joe would have jumped at it but now he might reject it because he is trying to change/be better. Walky might just be confused.
Don’t forget that Dorothy already tried to float the idea of a threesome with Joyce in the afterglow, and Walky WAS weirded out. Possibly to head off any chance of repeating themelf, and possibly because the irony is very funny, Willis has had both Joyce and Walky repeatedly express some level of disgust at the idea of being together.
(I bet Joe would be super nervous, but we know from some things he’s said about Sarah that at least the fantasy of sex with a woman who’s glaring at him the whole time does kinda do it for him. So some of the nerves might also be excitement, though I’m sure New Joe would want to quadruple check that Dorothy and Joyce were both okay with the idea of him touching Dorothy.)
Joyce: “I SHOULD delete this tiddy pic that Dorothy sent me, but since it doesn’t really get rid of it, I should just keep it…”
Just realised I missed yesterday’s page. Intially a little weird with the dialogue jump, then just saw Walky had been vaporised and it twigged.
Walky getting arrested for indecent exposure on the way to his hook up.
Meanwhile, Joyce deletes Jennifer’s pic. And ONLY Jennifer’s pic.
I do not miss being this full of hormones.
There was a time when I seriously considered taking a bus across state lines for the possibility of a booty call.
With/from, now that I think back on it, someone who I had never actually met or even (because this was the 90s, before we had phones) exchanged pictures.
I was – like the kids in this comic – very dumb, young, and horny.
I’m 33. I’m still this full at random
help me i don’t want to become roshi
“regrettably”, you say? do tell us more, joyce.
i actually don’t hate walky/dorothy (i was gonna make a playlist for them a while back but i never got further than “love you madly” by cake), but dorothy clearly doesn’t know what she wants, or rather she has multiple conflicting desires. i hope she finds a combination and a compromise which satisfies her.
This is the straightest possible response to the straightest possible response to the original accidental lewd selfies. We’re just straighting all over the place.
Truly as straight as the straightest of boomerangs.
When you straight so hard that it loops back around to being gay again.
Fun fact! If you straight your way toward the horizon, you will eventually return to your starting point. Total spherical unstraighted travel by straighting! Clearly, QED, the harder you het, the sooner you hom. That’s just match.
*math
(*sighs)
The thick plottens…
Holy heck is my name finally happening? Are we linking back up with the good timeline?
Prayer hands for The Good Timeline.
Wonder how long it’ll be before Joyce realizes Dorothy didn’t accidentally send those pics to her.
the hidden folder advice sounds familiar. Like there’s a strip where someone’s giving it to Jennifer type of familiar. The closest I can find is Dorothy asking Amber if she can delete a photo off the cloud.
the thick, it plottens
Keep it secret. Keep it safe.
I misread Hinky as Kinky
We’re not here to hink-shame.
…Jennifer is going to recommend that she sends one back as a joke, isn’t she? And then Joyce, not realizing that she (accidentally) sent one earlier, sends a a new titty pic to Dorothy. Cut to Dorothy, naked in bed with Walky, having just ravaged each other, with Dorothy thinking that she’s finally overcome any feelings of horniness towards Joyce via Walky sex. Then she gets the new Joyce titty pic. And all those feelings towards Joyce come back all at once, but now with a Walky right next to her. And the cycle continues.
Pfff, that would be super awkward. Big DoA energy. Fingers crossed!