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  1. ooooh dear here we go
    got an MRI today, wish me luck

    1. Good luck!

    2. good luck 🙏🙏🙏

    3. Good luck! <3

    4. Those are fun, huh? Good luck!

    5. Bon Chance!

      1. Bonne chance !

      2. /Taken/ reference?

        In the French version of that movie, when the bad guy gets the famous “I have a particular set of skills, I’ll find you and I’ll kill you” phone call, he replies with a heavy Albanian accent “bon chance” instead of the grammatically correct “bonne chance”. It’s kind of become a meme in French-speaking parts of the Internet.

        1. DOA Comments – Educational as usual.

    6. Good luck!

    7. Just kick back and enjoy the drum and base :)

    8. Good luck!!!

  2. Goddammit, no!! No!!! My drama typhoon! It’s being downgraded to a… a… a drama tropical depression! Dammit! Damn you, Mx. Willis!!!

    1. Im still annoyed that all the Drama is Becky related bu in crying rn so dont care

    2. I dunno, this thing could still spin back up to a category 2-3 at least if Becky decides to be super aggressive about all the reasons that she doesn’t believe Joyce will be there for her forever anymore.

      1. But it still wouldn’t be the perfect storm of all this happening while Joe and Dina are also there with their own axes to grind.

    3. It could still upgrade from here, all they have to do is kiss

  3. Good on Joyce for growin some ovaries and talking to (one of) the people she has hurt. Now Becky gotta come to terms with the fact she couldn’t get the girl, and go get her Dina back.

  4. Ouch, Becky. I hope this is going to go well, but I’m not confident.

  5. Awww Becky, she’s still your best friend. Romantic attraction is just weird. It wasn’t some flaw in you that made her not interested in you sexually.

    1. In some was, she should be thrilled — before Joyce hooked up with Dotty, Becky was stuck in competition/co-best friends.

      Now she gets to lock in best friend while Dorothy is relegated to girlfriend.

      1. Also far more likely to be best friends with someone longer than lovers anyway.

  6. Oh wow, this is not what I expected. I’m actually proud of Joyce for addressing (one of) her difficulties in life.
    .
    On the other hand, sad Becky makes me sad. I need Dina, and Becky to get back together for my own mental health.

    1. Absolutely 100% agree. THIS is the Joyce I love, the one who is awkward and confused and clueless, but damn it she still tries her best to do right by people.

      1. It’s the same Joyce, she’s a multidimensional human being who has flaws the same as anyone else, and it’s kinda telling the way people talk like this about a female character, condemning her when those flaws cause any actual problems, or when she makes mistakes in her messy and complicated path of self-actualization, holding up an idealized image of her and complaining whenever she doesn’t align with that image

        1. oh my god yes. the way people have talked about Joyce over the years has sometimes upset me so much I almost didn’t want to keep reading the comic.

          [edit] how on Earth do I add a pfp?? I’ve been away and the comment system is all different now.

  7. That final panel gut punched me. Oh Beckers… :(

  8. “If we’re being real, Becks, then ‘No’. Sure, we’ll be friends throughout our college experience, and maybe a few years beyond, but let’s face it: life gets in the way, and people drift apart. I will still always think fondly of you. I mean, unless you go on a crime spree or something; in that case I have no memory of ever knowing you.”

    1. I mean, I’m pretty sure if Becky goes on a crime spree then Joyce definitely knows her and that they were hanging out together on the night of June 5th, why wouldn’t they have been? That girl is ride-or-die.

    2. i mean other than a natural drift apart, i don’t expect joyce to move halfway across the world, so as long as they stay in the same state it wouldn’t be that hard to stay in touch and catch up even if they don’t live next door anymore

      1. True, but sometimes living even a couple cities away, especially if you work different shifts, can accelerate the drift. Friendship, like a marriage, is something to have to work at if you don’t want to lose it. Or, I can just be my typical smartass, and quote Ferris Bueller:

        “Life moves pretty fast. If you don’t stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.”

  9. Yes, Becky. She’ll still be your best friend. Your long-standing crush on her that she doesn’t reciprocate isn’t a problem on her end. If you push her away, that’s your doing, and you need to work on that instinct yourself.

    This is basically how I comfort people, and although I am known to not be a person you come to for comfort, I am a person you come to if you need advice. For… obvious reasons.

    1. Joyce has given Becky several other reasons to believe that they are drifting apart.

    2. Let’s put the crush aside for a second. There is also the Big Atheist Elephant in the room that has continued to go unaddressed and may throw a wrench in this conversation.

      1. Wait, do some elephants believe in one or more gods?

        1. I’m assuming some of them have to believe in Ganesha (Ganesh). At least Indian elephants do.

        2. And some very large ones probably believe they are standing atop of a giant space turtle, moving their legs to allow for the passage of the sun. But they may live in an alternative universe with different laws of reality to ours, so we may not need to worry about them… Those ones probably believe in a whole pantheon, who play board games with people’s lives…(GNU)

        3. Actually elephants have been observed engaging in mourning rituals akin to human rituals, and other similar activities. They’re extremely intelligent animals, so the idea that they may have developed some sort of religious beliefs isn’t impossible, though it would be difficult to determine.

      2. I thought that was actually pretty well resolved? Maybe not permanently, but enough for them to be friends. I can’t recall the exact topic of the strip, but I recall them deciding to still be friends despite that difference.

  10. So, someone better at tracking time in this comic… How many days are we from The Kiss? Just trying to figure it out, here.

    1. Like 3?

      1. I believe it’s been three, yes. Unless there was a mini-timeskip I missed.

    2. Yes, the kiss was Saturday, this is Tuesday.

  11. hey um Mr Willis not sure if the website is still technically under construction or not but like
    can the gravatars here be made bigger pretty please?
    i really miss being able to see all the details on commenters’ profile pics in the old site :/

    1. i suppose for now you could always click and use your mouse roller to zoom in ,that’s what i do, ever since i got my new computer even tho my monitor has been the same all the browsers have been small for me to where i have to zoom in on everything (tho my Eyesight was quite bad before anyways)

  12. I’m glad to see I was right; that last strip wasn’t cowardice it was determination

  13. Welp, I did not call it, I thought she would go to Joe. I like this though, Joyce is being very mature communicating her feelings in a healthy way.

    1. With Joe, Joyce’s clearly in the wrong by stringing him along while declaring Dorothy is her official one and only true love. But in regards to Becky, she really hasn’t done anything wrong after revealing that she’s with Dotty. She even tried to mend Becky’s relationship with Dina by giving Dina some REALLY stupid but sincere relationship advice. Plus, Becky seems to have forgiven Dorothy and accepted that she, Dotty, is Joyce’s girl, not her. Seeing the two of them getting out of the shower was awkward, sure, but Becky should have just gotten over it or made a snarky remark on how shower sex is never as good as people think it is.

    2. tbf she did recently run into becky, if it had been joe right after they left the shower room then maybe but bound to have this convo eventually

  14. Joyce was leaving an hour before class, right? Maybe they could go talk to each other about these feelings at, like, breakfast? Like a couple of… crying breakfast friends, or something.

    1. I see what you did there

    2. they could just make it efficient and cry on the way to/during class, they’re the main castso it’s fine /i doubt the prof would care

  15. Wooo! That expression last comic was all about determination to make a major important decision. YAY.

    This is good. This is progress. If she can acknowledge this, there’s hope yet for more. But I also like the further depth in Becky’s issues. Somehow she tied losing Joyce *fully* in a romantic level as losing her on ALL emotional levels, aka platonic.

    Now her devastation makes more sense. Even if still irrational.

    1. Having lost mom to suicide, dad to criminal violence while he was trying to kidnap her, I’m sure Becky’s issue are due to losing on the Dating Game.

    2. They’ve been growing apart for a while anyway, even on a platonic level. Which is probably why the romantic loss hurt all the more.

  16. Joyce.
    Cheat on Dorothy with Becky.
    Come on.
    Do it.
    It’ll be amazing and nothing bad will happen.

    1. “Now that I’ve heard from the ANGEL on my shoulder, does the devil on the other side have anything to add?”

      1. 👿”Do it raw and don’t pull out. Don’t think about the logistics.”

    2. but joyce isn’t attracted to becky , no? Other than a pity kiss or them getting drunk together like she wanted

    3. So true! They’ve only been together 3 days. If basically be the Barney and Friends of Cheating! Dorothy could hardly be upset at a 3 day relationship ending!

  17. ….. Becky, you have my empathy. But my sympathy for you has run out.

    1. Yeah, it’s not like everybody that was important to you has abandoned you and left you an orphan.

      Oh, wait.

      1. That is an extremely geneous reading of her attitude and actions towards Joyce for the past few months.

        1. It’s not, really. She’s always had abandonment issues because of her parents and they have always been psychologically tied to Joyce the last, and only happy, remaining shred of her childhood. This was clear even in freshers week. It’s more than just a crush, it’s trauma. And she’s little more than a kid.

  18. Take that friendship while it last darling; and nothing says it won’t rekindle swiftly after a decade drift apart. Just accept it has changed.
    Gosh, I want Joyce determination in that scenario!

  19. I was wrong about the details I picked yesterday but right in general, I think!
    .
    Also: new job starts a week from today aaaa I’m excited.

    1. oh shit!!!
      congratz bruh and good luck ^-^

    2. Congratulations! I’m cheering for you!

  20. Guys, I think Becky is stopping to believe…

    1. Don’t you mean Billieving?

      1. That’s only when you believe in Jennifer.

  21. Becky doesn’t seem to hold any real animosity toward Dorothy when Dotty apologized to her. In fact, dare I say it, I think they’re considering each other friends after their last interaction, where they playfully antagonized each other. So why does it look like Joyce’s apology is being flat-out rejected when she wants the same thing? Because Becky’s still in love with her to the point that she blew up her own relationship after learning Joyce was bi?

    Come on, Becks, Joyce was never your girl. If you can easily forgive the girl who “stole her” from you and become friends, surely you can do it for your bestie, who you know was never romantically into you but loves you like a sister.

    1. IMO, it’s not a matter of rejecting her apology.
      Joyce wants to say, earnestly wants to believe (and for Becky to believe it too), that they will always be friends, and (this is a big one for Becky) Joyce will never leave her. And Becky’s response is… well, see my comment below.

    2. In most or all of their encounters after Joyce and Dorothy got together, Becky’s been maybe a tiny bit awkward, and Joyce (and Dorothy) have been making a huge deal of it. I haven’t seen any animosity. Just Becky doing ‘getting over Joyce redux’, and Joyce drawing attention to it.
      Becky and Joyce have been drifting apart. I think that’s what Becky’s talking about here. Not that Joyce merely [i]talks[/i] about the bonds of friendship. That’s something I’m saying about her.

    3. She’s not rejecting it. Becky has had a lifetime of abandonment that’s left her with deep insecurity of people in her life leaving her. The reason she’s tearing up is because she’s terrified of believing it, but wanting to. IMO that’s probably why we got the arc with Charlie and Dina walking off together — so Becky could freak out as a reminder to the reader that she does not deal well with the implication that she isn’t someone’s entire world. (also might be why she likes autistic girls too!)

    4. Becky doesn’t have the same emotional trauma baggage around Dorothy as she has around Joyce.

      This isn’t just about (not) being with Joyce romantically, there’s a bunch of other trauma mixed in. Fellow-Christian-and-impossible-crush-BFF-Joyce was the last person that hadn’t walked out Becky’s life. And now they’re no longer Christian, and moving on. And apparently they are into girls, so the crush wasn’t impossible, so it not working out must’ve been because Becky wasn’t good enough. And not good enough to stop yet another person from leaving her.

      I don’t think Becky holds it against Joyce, but there is a lot of hurt here.

      1. Pretty much this; the romantic rejection in favor for a platonic sisterly love triggers Becky’s fears of permanent abandonment and the last firm connection to her old life. Combine that with Joyce kind of becoming a pseudo-symbolic symbol (given she was very “Closeted Bi” for like most of this whole strip) of her fears surrounding the plasticity of sexuality and gender unmooring even THOSE bedrock aspects of her identity, and Becky is like a balloon being buffeted around in a hurricane and cutting off people in her life to “save” herself from pain and do that thing depression loves to do to us where we create our own worst fear to just usher it in now when we feel we have more “control” over it.

  22. “Don’t make a girl a promise… if you know you can’t keep it.” – Cortana

  23. Oh great, a third option. I feel like an ass

  24. HUG HER YOU FOOL

  25. CALLED IT!!!
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    No, I didn’t call it. But who’s gonna check?

  26. The Patrons were mean to Becky, but Joyce is like actively avoiding most of her friend group for snuggle and sex time with Dorothy.

    1. Joyce and Dorothy did things in a way that hurt or upset a lot of their friends, but aside from that it’s still a very new relationship so wanting to be around each other that much isn’t unusual.

  27. Could make an argument that Becky is asking the wrong question there.
    The question isn’t whether or not she can stay friends with Joyce.
    The question should be, is that what she wants?

  28. you know part of me really hopes it’s not this easy. Joyce just gives an impassioned speech and suddenly Becky forgives her and all… Like Joyce can at least understand that Becky is upset and her relationship is what’s causing the distress but I don’t think Joyce understands the full extent as to WHY Becky is bothered and that’s gonna be a hurdle that she’s gonna face. If she tries to pull the “it’s MY magic fairytale romance and you’re wrong for being upset about it” attitude she’s been having with others this could very much blow up in her face hard.

    1. Forgive her for what?

    2. The “Becky is traumatized by this” is also largely in Joyce’s head and in the theatrics she does whenever she’s around. Becky’s hurting, but working through it, not putting it on Joyce and Dorothy.
      Looking at what Joyce says in panel 2: just don’t avoid her then. you don’t have to sneak off to class. If Becky doesn’t want to be around, she’s capable of doing that herself. Getting together with Dorothy isn’t something Joyce has to apologize for to Becky. But making so much theater, repeatedly calling attention to the awkwardness Becky’s working through, that’s what Joyce is doing wrong by her. And that’s not a “give impassioned apology” or even any apology, sort of thing. That’s a “fucking drop it already” thing, and just see what happens. Maybe they drift apart more. That’s fine. It’s like the second easiest time in their lives to make new friends. Becky’s life doesn’t have to revolve around Joyce, even if that’s what Joyce wants.

      1. Joyce wants to go back to how things were, when Becky didn’t show she was hurting and was moving on. Joyce wantsthis back. And maybe Becky wants that back too, but Becky’s taking a step past that, or starting to.
        Just like it’s not Joyce and Dorothy’s job to avoid Becky for what they think is her sake, it’s not Becky’s job to put on a goofball mask so they can pretend things don’t change.

      2. It’s not just in Joyce’s head, though. If it was, Becky wouldn’t have been spiraling and pushed Dina away with her “I know you’re gonna leave me too, everyone else does, so go ahead, get it over with.” She’s so certain that she’s going to be left completely alone in the end that she’s making it happen.

  29. Eh, I don’t know if I quite believe this yet. Like if we put the crush factor aside, Joyce still spends most of her time with Dorothy, has become atheist and bad mouthed her religion behind Becky’s back, and in general kind of just does stuff without her, mostly with Dorothy. Even if Becky wasn’t in love with Joyce I would still understand her feeling replaced. I understand Joyce’s emotions here are sincere but I’m skeptical that it will change anything. They’ve been drifting away for a while.

    1. It feels like this whole mess has Becky questioning if they ever really had a strong friendship or were just the most compatible person the other had in a hostile environment. Joyce insists Becky is her family, but everybody else in Becky’s family has violently exited her life. In her mind, if Joyce doesn’t *need* her presence to feel safe in the way Becky clearly does hers, why should this be any different?

      1. Considering the sheer lengths joyce has gone to for becky, the fact that she stood up to her own mother for her, lied to her parents which from what I understand she never really did before and chased after her when Ross kidnapped her I think it’s pretty safe to say that yeah she considers her family.

        She just isn’t romantically or sexually interested in her.

        1. It’s not just the romance though. It’s things like Joyce didn’t want to tell Becky she was likely autistic. Becky was dating a girl very likely on the spectrum at the time, but Joyce just didn’t want to tell her because reasons but she told Dorothy right away. It’s not just a rejection of Becky’s romantic and sexual interest, it’s Joyce choosing other people first. How do they even fix that?

        2. I mean I think it makes sense. It might sound counterintuitive but sometimes it is harder to tell something like that to someone you are that close to, and esier to tell someone like a friend you didn’t knew as long yet trust.

        3. @MrMorningstar: Well spotted. And even leaving those observations aside, as a seasoned (and perhaps a bit cynical) adult, it’s kind of inevitable that life tends to pull friends apart. As you get older and you take on more responsibilities, inevitably you have to make decisions about whom to cut from your life, not out of malice, but just because you don’t have time for them anymore. And if Dorothy is the most important person in Joyce’s life, then by necessity the things Joyce will make time for will most likely revolve around her first. Dorothy herself, then her family, circle of friends, work acquaintances, hobby partners etc. If Becky does not happen to be part of those circles, then Joyce and Becky will almost certainly start to grow apart from each other. Their lives just take them in different directions.

          While I don’t know what path Dorothy wants to go down in life now that she’s “officially” renounced politics, I still feel that what she ends up doing with her life will be very different and likely not adjacent to what Becky does with hers.

  30. [starts playing some Two Mix cause this is some JUST COMMUNICATION]

    1. They are experiencing some RHYTHM EMOTION

  31. Oh, okay. I guess she’s going to have an Evangelion elevator scene OUTSIDE the elevator.

  32. Hmmmm…. My first reaction was “Yeah, Joyce, but you’re the one who has been avoiding her and not doing any of those things.” My second read I can see it more as a “so that’s what I’m about to start doing” type of statement, but in either case, Becky’s response reads like an extremely valid “my best friend started dating someone, so now I don’t see them anymore” response.

    1. Jeezus, it’s been like A DAY. GIve them a little time to find the new normal.

      1. Its been like 3 and this new normal has been perpetuated long before they started dating.

  33. Sure, Becky’s hurt by the Doyce developments, but these two haven’t really been acting like friends together for some time now (mostly on Joyce’s part).

    1. (Not trying to dismiss her feelings for Joyce, and feelings about said feelings, but that’s more “the straw that broke the camel’s back” than the core of their conflict.)

  34. I mean half the fandom already tears Joyce apart as it is, i don’t get how this scenario wpuld be different on her end.

  35. The Illini are a serious rival! Why blue and orange? Is she BiAcademe, too? Why not Old Gold and Black?

  36. The fandom is already tearing Joyce and Becky apart.

  37. It’s no big flex to see that Becky has major abandonment issues tied into her mom, but it seems increasingly evident that she fears change as abandonment also. Her reaction to Dina in a suit was both arousal and panic. Becky maintained a mental stability with Joyce being as she always presented, a solid heterosexual, but Joyce becoming bisexual triggers a god-killing sense of betrayal. This is more than the loss of a crush. Poor girl needs some counseling.

    1. Counseling but also some stability. Which she is probably not going to get any time soon, as she is at a time and place in her life and personal journey where pretty much everything is in flux.

  38. ”And I want you to believe…” is a curious way to put it.

    Joyce doesn’t say ”And I’ll be your friend forever, no matter what”, she says she wants Becky to believe she will. It’s…. weird.

    1. She already knows *she* will be Becky’s friend forever. She wants Becky to believe in it.

      1. eh. Joyce wants to believe that, but we’ve already seen hints that it might not always be so. They’ve already begun to change and grow apart, each following their own path. And that’s not a bad thing.
        “Forever” is a long time, even in the colloquial sense of a single human lifetime, and Joyce can’t and shouldn’t make that promise.

  39. It’s so peak OnePieceRayleighCrying.gif

  40. If Dorothy was a dude and his actions played out as closely as possible to canon (gradually realizes he’s pining for Joyce and acts on it even though both of them are in relationships with other people), the comments would be tearing both of them apart.

    1. Let’s just iterate this as far as we can and start staging our “If X was a man” in the hypothetical alternate reality where women don’t exist and all of the characters are men.

      Gosh, if Dorothy and Joyce and Becky and Joe and Walky were all men, the audience would be men and tearing them apart.

    2. Ooh! Ooh! can I try one? If Dina and Danny switched hats, the comments would burn down a haberdashery.

    3. Thing is, “as closely as possible” isn’t very close, since it loses the whole coming out part of the story, which is what kept both of them from realizing the attraction much sooner. You could gender swap everyone, I guess, but that changes a lot of other dynamics.
      “This would be taken differently if gender swapped” rarely leads to a reasonable parallel in any circumstance

  41. This is such a heavy page for TDoV.

  42. Wait, THAT’S part of what Becky was upset about??? OK now I realize why she said what she did about God. There was always a missing jigsaw puzzle piece. And thank goodness because that’s a worry Joyce can actually assuage.

    And to those wondering about Joe: I agree, but Becky is the longer-standing connection so I get why she took priority. Also Joyce still feels responsible for Becky and Dina’s current issues.

  43. I feel bad saying this but I hope Dorothy and Joyce aren’t endgame because I really think they’re not a very entertaining couple.

    1. I’d say people don’t exist for your entertainment but this is literally a webcomic so

    2. I agree. Joece was a more interesting dynamic because they were equal-but-opposite, approaching similar hangups from opposing ends.

  44. Because change is scary. Because things change! Because Becky changed, and so did Dorothy, and whoops it turns out even if you try your best to just be the Jokey Funny Always Fun Becky eventually you’ll have a shitty moment. And it might be an even bigger shittier moment then it could have been because maybe never really processing how much shit you went through builds up.

    And kinda brain state becky’s in, its easy to be 30 miles down the road mentally going “AND THEN ONE DAY IM SO MEAN AND WE’RE NOT FRIENDS STILL AND I EXPLODE’.

  45. Oh come the fuck on, Becky. I’m on her side far more than Joyce, but I don’t think that they have to be in conflcict at all, but what does she even want at this point. Note that was not phrased as a question.

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