OK, out-of-touch alert: somebody’s got to tell me where that “swiggity swooty” thing comes from. The first time I saw it was in reference to Avatar: Legend of Korra and I’m pretty sure it didn’t come from that series.
Well the term does actually stem from a quote by Ed in Ed Edd n’ Eddy. But the rehashing of the term to “Swiggity Swooty” seems to be synonomous with Foxy.
Isn’t Five Nights at Freddy’s from the past few months? (According to Wikipedia, it was in August of this year.) I legitimately saw the term “swiggity swooty” used at least a year ago, if not more.
I’m quite certain of this because in a D&D game, we had a tower that we could literally summon anywhere if we just threw the little box to the ground. And because of that deer picture, our entire party would always go “Swiggity swooty, Tower of Booty” as it appeared. That started in February at the absolute latest. (We’re still mad that the tower was destroyed. It was destroyed back in May, if I remember correctly.)
If I didn’t have such a specific memory of that term being highly used in our group, then I wouldn’t have bothered saying anything. And I guess I’m one of those turds that wants to be right all the time; sorry. ^.^;;;;;;
It is also distinctly possible that since my friend group spends so much time on the Internet, we were ahead of the curve by quite a while. It is very possible that the term came into more usage because of Foxy. I honestly haven’t got clue. I’m just telling what happened in my own life. *shrugs*
Snarky Ruth default Gravitar also makes it look like I am being snarky in my post. I am not.
I am very tired, so I hope nothing sounds super-weird or weirdly aggressive, because I really am being/feeling very neutral right now but do not express myself well when I really need to sleep.
Well this way, I guess, we get to enjoy seeing her removing the shirt and revealing that sexy little babydoll nightie again. Which, personally, I can’t wait to see (again). 😀
I’m old enough to remember back when there were only two Canadian teams in the NHL, the team for Catholics, and the Leafs. Obviously there have been some changes since then, but I got a Leafs uniform (in little kid’s size) for Christmas back then.
The joke is that this is usually where a cartoon would usually transition away to avoid showing sexytimes to innocent young minds, NOPE THEY’RE GONNA BANG AND YOU’RE GONNA WATCH
My first thought was “Is that their established safeword?” but then that didn’t actually make sense, so I ctrl+F’ed the comments. Thank you for asking and answering this.
Yes, Billie will make fun of you. She will mock you as she eats the flesh from your bones, your entrails spattered on the ground, blood spilled reaching from one end of campus to another.
ALTERNATE JOKE: Ruth is gonna squawk louder than a goose. A CANADIAN goose.
I think he pretty much said that her origin is all-new, all-different, though he didn’t say anything about Ryan specifically. But his Roomies! comments indicate he doesn’t like that story.
Good lord I hate modern Firefox. Every damn release breaks new things. Mozilla SeaMonkey is my main browser for that reason… here on my Windows machine I installed FF out of laziness. But I’ve had it, and FF will not be installed anywhere on my machines. (Iceweasel will be allowed on Debian as a backup, since Debian fixes a bunch of the problems in the first place).
Also, given we’ve met this universe’s Ryan and he’s almost certainly younger than Ruth, whereas Walkyverse Ryan was almost certainly older, it seems pretty unlikely.
Though I guess “her ex was a total butthead who may have contributed to her loss of self-esteem” IS still a possibility, Ryan or no.
This isn’t necessarily a complaint, but I feel like ever since Willis started making comics for Slipshine, there’s been a lot more sex scenes in the comic.
You didn’t have sex in college?
Well, now I know I’m not going to get any sex until I’m thirty…
Can I say I lost my virginity to my hand? Does that count?
I had sex in college (starting the end of my junior year) and I was a short, scrawny, pale nerd with cokebottle lens glasses. You will be fine if you are nice, patient, attentive, and can hold a conversation.
Money, get away
Get a good job with more pay and your O.K.
Money it’s a gas
Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash
New car, caviar, four star daydream,
Think I’ll buy me a football team
Money get back
I’m all right Jack keep your hands off my stack.
Money it’s a hit
Don’t give me that do goody good bullshit
I’m in the hi-fidelity first class traveling set
And I think I need a Lear jet
I think it has more to do with the fact that he’s now writing a comic about a large number of horny teenagers and it’s quite so messed up about sex anymore.
I mean, I’m not creating extra sexiness. While there was no new sexings happening in DoA, I had to go over and do a few Shortpacked!-based porns to fill the gap until the opportunity for them returned over in this strip. And the Amazi-Girl/Danny one was a last-minute decision, and its leading-in strips were not originally meant to lead into such a thing.
But generally I have resigned myself to bunches of people accusing me of whatever once these things started, so eh.
It seems like you just can’t win. Before the Danny/Amazi-Girl slipshine, I saw folks in the comments and on tumblr absolutely begging you for another slipshine comic. Even specifically begging for another DoA Slipshine comic.
Then you make more of them and make them fit in to the story line beautifully, and people gripe and say you’re a money-hungry greedy bastard.
I’m more of the mind that if you’re not a fan of the Slipshine stuff, don’t read it and don’t buy it. It’s not like they’re interfering with the comic here in anyway. They’re just adding details to the parts that would have been implied otherwise (at least, I’m assuming.), so why make a fuss?
I think it’s awesome that you make canonical porn! There’s so much social pressure to isolate explicit sex scenes in their own creative ghetto away from serious stories, which itself inhibits the ability to tell a serious multi-faceted story *including* a serious sex scene, so I’m really glad to see you bridging that rarely-explored gap! I hope you continue to stand up for what you believe in doing and keep making these well into the future.
Now if only I had money to actually read them… maybe one day. Lots of financial stuff to work out before then, though, alas.
Sidenote question: I believe you once suggested that a Sal/Jason slipshine piece could be on the works — but I think that was postponed or abandoned because of the Danny/Amber one. So my question is, was it just postponed or completely abandoned? Or to put it differently, would you say that Slipshine suscribers are going to get the Sal/Jason piece too eventually?
I’m curious about something. Let’s say, hypothetically, that it was never in the script for Danny and Ethan to go all the way, to make it to actual sex. Now that you have made so many Slipshines, would you feel compelled to change the script to include Danny and Ethan porn, just for the sake of equality and balance for your yaoi fans? Or is this a moot point, and you’ve had a plan to make Danny and Ethan porn from the get-go?
I wish more webcomic artists did the porn thing. I could think of a few other couples out there I’d like to see. Now excuse me while I go fund Willis’ robot toy habit.
He’s caught dicks-disease
despite having lesbians and bisexuals doing the nasty as well.
And when are we getting that epic gay men thing? The one you said your wife was helping you with?
Man, I can’t afford a Slipshine subsciption (but oh how I wish I could^^), so I’m just gonna let my imagination run wild instead. And I don’t even have to wait until tomorrow for that, my brain is already working in overdrive 😉
I find it just a little bit odd that your pornos are always either 1) het or 2) lesbian.
Any chance that you will do dude on dude at some point? Just wondering.
I know you don’t mean it this way, but sometimes the fact that you only have done those two kinds makes it feel a little bit like your lesbians exist in your comics for your own sexual pleasure less as characters. Like I’m not even saying you’re doing it intentionally! You’re probably not! But lesbians as dude eyecandy is just a bit too common for me to be totally comfortable with this.
I guess it’s weird for me to say that my respect for you would be upped if you did a dude on dude porn, but it would.
I think he said on Tumblr that he was waiting for a chance to work it in the story. Unfortunately for us, Ethan and Danny have some issues to work out (like how both are dating other people), so it might be a while. I, personally, don’t mind waiting. I bet it’ll be a big draw for Slipshine when it finally happens, though!
Dumbing of Age is about Joyce and the other women who live in her wing of her dorm. As such, it has like five dude characters versus dozes of ladies, and the dudes are largely peripheral. The opportunity for porns that involve women is built into the premise of the webcomic.
Does my own sexuality play into what I draw for porn? Of course. It’d be disingenuous to say otherwise. When you draw porn, it’s probably going to be something that somehow is tantalizing to yourself. That’s how drawing sexy things generally works — you draw things you find sexy.
Regardless, I want there to be a male/male porn. There will be a male/male porn. I want to be inclusive and not leave that segment out of the equation. I’m interested in attempting to draw it just for answering certain questions — like, can I draw a good porn in which I’m not actually sexually invested at all? Can I draw it in a way that it doesn’t feel like “yeah, this is the pity porn for the gay dudes.” Does it feel like the others?
I see those questions as challenges, not excuses, so it’ll happen. I’m interested in drawing male/male if only for that aspect. Can I do it? Plus, again, the desire for inclusiveness. The opportunities are merely fewer because of the demographics of the cast. But if you notice, there are certain openings, and those are not a coincidence.
Regardless, there are limitations built into my sexual identity. Even if I try, I can’t possibly be everything to everybody, and sometimes my attempt to be so is a self-destructive aspect of me. I do have to be wary of it sometimes.
I do wonder if you’ve seen any of my porn while asking some of these questions. In them do you think I treat people with respect, as individuals, as people, and not strictly as sexual objects? That is what I strive for, at any rate. That’s what I find attractive. Pictures of boobs are less than a dime a dozen, who cares. What matters to me are the people, and figuring out how each pair differs from the last. If you have seen them, I would like to hear your feelings.
I totally trust your ability to draw gay porn; even though I haven’t seen any of the porn you’ve drawn. Your point about the characters being individuals/people making it attractive is totally correct. In other words, I trust your ability to do that. There are a lot of pictures of dudes having sex, but none of them are David Willis characters, yet, and that’s too bad.
Your pornography is excellent. I feel like you really do focus on the characters themselves. None of them have seemed “samey” to me. You stay true to each individual. And the part I love best? The sex scenes feel real! You keep in the awkwardness that happens during sex. You make sure they practice safe sex! It’s wonderful. (I’m sort of expecting that Billie and Ruth will not be practicing safe sex, simply because that feels like the kind of thing that would happen. But shit, if they break out the dental dams and rubber gloves I will love you forever)
I, personally, don’t take issue with you doing the porn that you’ve been doing. But I’m a lesbian so uh. *cough* I like the boobies. But I also am a fan of dude on dude porn for some weird reason, so I look forwards to seeing it! Personally, I don’t even care if you’re doing it because you want to get off to it yourself. I think that if the artist is slightly turned on, the work will be better.
I think that you and Jess Fink are my favorite pornographers. (Guys if you want to read Jess, go read Chester 5000 NOW–but don’t forget to subscribe to slipshine so you can see all of the other sexy artists as well) Thank you for doing what you do! We all really appreciate it. 🙂
It’s probably far too late in the day to ask this, but is there any chance of you going back and doing the Roz/Joe tape? As the only scene thus far that has IN SETTING wide viewership, it seems odd if it’s the one the audience never sees.
I dunno, maybe, if I get stuck in a place where nobody else is readily doing it and I need to put something out. Roz/Joe aren’t the most compelling couple to me AND they’re probably way better at the deed than my simple Missionary Style fundie brain can imagine, so I’d worry I’d draw it insufficiently amazing. And, y’know, if their reputations at all matched reality, then I’d probably have to draw like 120 pages and bankrupt Slipshine with my pagerate.
Not ruling it out, just prioritizing it behind other possibilities. I guess if there were a groundswell of demand, then that’d change.
For some years, I have been impressed by the way you handled different kinds of issues (sexual or non-sexual). A while back I blurted out a question on Tumblr wanting to know if you were ever going to have a loving D/s relationship in DoA (at the time thinking of Walky/Dorothy or possibly Marcie/Sal). You gave me a typical non-committal answer that seemed to indicate a certain lack of clue, and completely fooled me into giving up on the thought. Well, damn you, Mr Willis, sir. I have been answered. For my sins, I have been answered.
In return, maybe I should give my answer to your questions. Do I think you treat your characters as people and not strictly as sexual objects?
Um, is Barney Stinson awesome?
The sexuality and sensuality in your sex comics is soundly based on and flows naturally from the characters’ established personalities. Nothing really seems contrived or tacked-on, and nothing forces me to reevaluate the characters afterwards (I was afraid I would “think less” of Walky and Dorothy, but nope). You do manage to present each couple as different from the next, even if some character happens to be the same character in another continuity. And I very much like the almost complete absence of “porn perfection”. There are freckles, there are love handles, there are boobs that don’t perpetually stand to attention but rather prefer to hang out with gravity. There are juices, there is loss of coherent speech, there is that strange mixture of tender and harsh that goes with completely losing it in bed. There are tough people going timid, there are shy people going wild. There is unabashed and involved female sexuality. There are males who blend taking charge with wanting reassurance. I laugh, I get turned on, I am loving it.
And yeah, a couple with switch D/s dynamics. Huh. Didn’t really see that coming, even though it sometimes seemed Billie would submit to Ruth (which would have been problematic in several ways). This is much better. Thanks.
I feel I need to clarify one point here. I never “think less” about real people for having PMHP or whatever. However, comics characters (*spoiler alert*) aren’t real, so if they start behaving in a way that isn’t consistent with their reality (e.g. start having sex not because they are sexual people but because the artist can make a buck out of it) I get confused and become less involved in them, which pretty much kills my interest in the comic as a whole. I was afraid that the respective characterizations of Dorothy and Walky were being sacrificed for the sake of producing pr0n. Having read the piece in question, I now know that this isn’t true.
In answer to your question about whether I’ve seen your prons thus far, no I haven’t. I’d be curious to see them, but I don’t wanna pay a slipshine subscription.
I think for myself also, your art doesn’t particularly lend itself to porn. This is purely subjective opinion, of course. But I mean I’ll aways be more interested in looking at something like Amanda LaFrenais’ porn art. There’s something really appealing about an artist willing to put a real sense of flesh on living characters, but of course there’s no way it’s anywhere near as easy a thing to do as she makes it look.
Thank you for your thoughtful answer to my question.
Let the rug munching begin. I don’t know how experienced these two are in performing F/F sex, but a mutual voyage of personal discovery would be quite endearing.
I would hazard a guess that Billie and Alice fucked, but I can’t be sure about that. As for Ruth, I have no idea! If she’s a virgin with the ladies, I can’t wait to see her first time! Plus, people giving direction to their partners is sexy. 😉
Ruth told Billie earlier that she was how she discovered she was into ladies, so I’m thinking she has no experience beyond whatever drunken fumbling they got up to last night.
If you seriously can’t think of anything two ladies can do with their natural equipment to get each other off, I honestly feel sorry for you. Most of it isn’t even limited to the ladies; heterosexual couples can do it too. And my experience has been that the ladies enjoy those things more than just stickin’ it in.
Seriously. Mutual masturbation still exists when it’s ladies doing it! So does cunnilingus! Granted, they don’t TELL us about this shit because sex ed sucks, but it exists! You don’t need a penis involved to have a good time!
I guess superior sex-ed is another of the benefits to growing up in California. Fair trade for all the restrictions on concealable weaponry, I suppose.
I can’t imagine that they aren’t. This thread comes up with astonishing regularity, and it’s the same every time. Willis even made a Shortpacked pointing out the answers the above commenters have given.
I was hoping Jenna is just very young and/or naïve.
Though, I was very naïve for way too long and I think I could have imagined ways in which two women could get each other off before I even fully knew what sex was and long before I knew what a dildo was.
Ordinarily I’d assume someone saying such a thing would be a cis-male (a young cis-male, specifically) but with the chosen name of Jenna, I’m thinking not. And that’s baffling to me.
Fingering, eating pussy, eating ass, sucking nipples. And from THOSE things, you can branch off into other things too! Some people also like to scissor but bleh to annoying. Why do that when you can just grind while on top? *shrugs* But yeah. Toys are fun too, but they are not necessary! I hope your definition of sex isn’t just penis in the vajayjay and nothing else, cause that kind is too quick for me. :/ I like at least an hour of lovin’. Never had lover with a dick be able to plow for an hour–nor would I have wanted that!
Strong, sexy, independent, SCARY Ruth stammering and fumbling at the idea of sexy times with Billie who can be confident, experienced and lead the way. Oh yes, this is delicious for Billie.
I like that the porn comic featuring a Canadian gets a bilingual name.
I enjoy more Ruth explaining to her Lesbian lover that she had a “Boyfriend in Canada”. I know the context means she’s not trying to pass it off like this, but it just reminds me of Avenue Q.
Oh I wish you could meet my boyfriend.
My boyfriend who lived in Canada!
He’s such a big sweetums
I wish you could meet hims
My boyfriend who lived in Canada!
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Of course now you gonna get fucked into submission soo…
Refreshes Slipshine over and over my time has come.
Actually I think it’s their time to….
Ah…Nevermind
Oh my god this stupid remark made me laugh 😀
OH SNAP, CRACKLE, AAAND POP
Swiggity swooty, Billie’s coming for that booty.
she’s gonna touch her….a-toosh toosh
OK, out-of-touch alert: somebody’s got to tell me where that “swiggity swooty” thing comes from. The first time I saw it was in reference to Avatar: Legend of Korra and I’m pretty sure it didn’t come from that series.
Its a fan made quote for Foxy from Five Nights at Freddy’s.
LOL seriously?
No, it was around way before that.
http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/645573-swiggity-swag
I first saw this picture over a year ago.
Well the term does actually stem from a quote by Ed in Ed Edd n’ Eddy. But the rehashing of the term to “Swiggity Swooty” seems to be synonomous with Foxy.
Isn’t Five Nights at Freddy’s from the past few months? (According to Wikipedia, it was in August of this year.) I legitimately saw the term “swiggity swooty” used at least a year ago, if not more.
I’m quite certain of this because in a D&D game, we had a tower that we could literally summon anywhere if we just threw the little box to the ground. And because of that deer picture, our entire party would always go “Swiggity swooty, Tower of Booty” as it appeared. That started in February at the absolute latest. (We’re still mad that the tower was destroyed. It was destroyed back in May, if I remember correctly.)
If I didn’t have such a specific memory of that term being highly used in our group, then I wouldn’t have bothered saying anything. And I guess I’m one of those turds that wants to be right all the time; sorry. ^.^;;;;;;
It is also distinctly possible that since my friend group spends so much time on the Internet, we were ahead of the curve by quite a while. It is very possible that the term came into more usage because of Foxy. I honestly haven’t got clue. I’m just telling what happened in my own life. *shrugs*
*haven’t got a clue
Snarky Ruth default Gravitar also makes it look like I am being snarky in my post. I am not.
I am very tired, so I hope nothing sounds super-weird or weirdly aggressive, because I really am being/feeling very neutral right now but do not express myself well when I really need to sleep.
I like that you went to the trouble of having her put on a shirt only to presumably draw her taking it off (or have it taken off) seconds later
Well this way, I guess, we get to enjoy seeing her removing the shirt and revealing that sexy little babydoll nightie again. Which, personally, I can’t wait to see (again). 😀
And the same goes double from Billie’s POV. :3
More likely Billie gets to enjoy unwrapping Ruth herself.
yeah, “Ruth, foreplay generally means taking clothes OFF”
…unless it’s cosplay, maybe?
Yes Billy. Ruth went to all this adorable trouble. You really should show your appreciation first.
… She is…
That was his point. There’s emphasis on that should. /should/
Ruth, you are just too fucking precious.
Damnit ! If you had said Perfect instead I could have made a reference to a pink song ! *sigh* what a waste.
No, that’s Billie’s theme
Later:
“Wasn’t I gonna make fun of Ruth for something? …Eh, there will be something else to make fun of eventually.”
Billie: “I’m going to have lots of fun with you…r body.”
TOOT TOOT
(That’s the sound of a ship steaming ahead)
Does it count as a ship if it’s canon?
People use really weird words for stuff now.
It’s a good thing this is the internet or people might not know what he’s talking about.
That makes it a warship.
Because it has canon support.
NICE!
I highly support this new terminology
I shall work to make it commonplace
Ok, that’s actually pretty clever.
…this is a thing now. It has to be. IT SHALL BE SO!
Everyone use this and spread the definition around as much as possible. Twitter, tumblr, and etc. #warship
Ships often have can(n)ons
Ruth had a boyfriend back in Canada. That’s funny because it sounds so fake until you remember she’s Canadian.
Not that you could ever forget with that giant poster.
No self-respecting Canadian would cheer for the Leafs.
Unless they’re from Toronto. Them crazies.
Source: I’m a Montrealer.
We could tell you were Canadian not because of your source, but because you took the time to cite your source.
What the fuck is this, a footnote? Ah, hay-uhl naw. BLAM BLAM BLAM B LAM BLAM BLAM. Yeah that’s right. #’Murrica
Upon reflection I must clarify that the crazy drunken ‘Murrican in my one-act play there shot the footnote itself, not the Canadian.
He was just collateral.
I’m old enough to remember back when there were only two Canadian teams in the NHL, the team for Catholics, and the Leafs. Obviously there have been some changes since then, but I got a Leafs uniform (in little kid’s size) for Christmas back then.
And the ironic thing was the other team was the Canadiennes.
I didn’t know that there was a women’s hockey team paired with the Canadiens.
*insert avenue q joke here*
You beat me to it.
The Internet is for Slipshine?
Yes.
No.
My Girlfriend Who Lives In Canada
I like the strip but I don’t understand the alt text.
Willis complaining about his own art? But the eyes look fine to me.
Oh wait, now I remember, an “iris out” is a kind of film transition.
I think he means if you want the rest read the slipshine sucka!
The joke is that this is usually where a cartoon would usually transition away to avoid showing sexytimes to innocent young minds, NOPE THEY’RE GONNA BANG AND YOU’RE GONNA WATCH
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IrisOut
I think it’s a camera method for fading to black. Except, since it’s going to be a Slipshine, he isn’t going to fade to black.
I think that’s what it means?
He’s fading to black HERE so you don’t get to see what happens unless you go to the Slipshine.
My first thought was “Is that their established safeword?” but then that didn’t actually make sense, so I ctrl+F’ed the comments. Thank you for asking and answering this.
Yes, Billie will make fun of you. She will mock you as she eats the flesh from your bones, your entrails spattered on the ground, blood spilled reaching from one end of campus to another.
ALTERNATE JOKE: Ruth is gonna squawk louder than a goose. A CANADIAN goose.
And of course the noises will draw a crowd. Ruth and Billie will be caught en flagrante delicto, and much damning of the Willis will ensue.
I’m pretty sure there will be eating, but I dunno about the rest of that.
As a Canadian, I assure you that is not something any of us would do.
I’m a vegetarian, I won’t swat a fly but those Geese are fucking evil.
Is Willis going with Ruth’s the old origin that involved Ryan ? That would be interesting actually if he ever returned.
I think he pretty much said that her origin is all-new, all-different, though he didn’t say anything about Ryan specifically. But his Roomies! comments indicate he doesn’t like that story.
Well never mind then, was a bad Idea anyway since we all want DoA to Be different from the last Universe
Yes. For example, I suspect that most of us in fact do not want Ruth to die in a car accident. Fingers crossed for Mary though!
Sorry, word of god is: 25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbfymvmKy61r69yo9o2_500.gif
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbfymvmKy61r69yo9o2_500.gif
Good lord I hate modern Firefox. Every damn release breaks new things. Mozilla SeaMonkey is my main browser for that reason… here on my Windows machine I installed FF out of laziness. But I’ve had it, and FF will not be installed anywhere on my machines. (Iceweasel will be allowed on Debian as a backup, since Debian fixes a bunch of the problems in the first place).
Seamonkey fist bump!
Also, given we’ve met this universe’s Ryan and he’s almost certainly younger than Ruth, whereas Walkyverse Ryan was almost certainly older, it seems pretty unlikely.
Though I guess “her ex was a total butthead who may have contributed to her loss of self-esteem” IS still a possibility, Ryan or no.
hehehe I think it’s pretty cute how awkward they constantly are.
CALLED IT
…because it was so very difficult to call.
I think having Jason as my gravatar influences me to take on his dispassionate snarkiness in the comments section. Which may not be a good thing.
I am so happy right now. ^^
Happy for them. Happy for me.
This isn’t necessarily a complaint, but I feel like ever since Willis started making comics for Slipshine, there’s been a lot more sex scenes in the comic.
There’s also a lot of sex in college (so I’ve been told). That might also be a factor.
No, there’s no sex at all in college.
…well, none I was involved in anyway.
Sorry, you’re just too stable … if you were hot things would be different 😉
okay where the hell was i for sex in college
You didn’t have sex in college?
Well, now I know I’m not going to get any sex until I’m thirty…
Can I say I lost my virginity to my hand? Does that count?
I had sex in college (starting the end of my junior year) and I was a short, scrawny, pale nerd with cokebottle lens glasses. You will be fine if you are nice, patient, attentive, and can hold a conversation.
I shockingly slipped under the wire at 29. Though she was in college at the time…again, at 31
Only if you have split personalities, or your hand is otherwise possessed.
“There’s a time and a place for everything… and it’s called COLLEGE.”
I think it’s because all the relationships teased at the begining are all paying off around the same time.
Money, get away
Get a good job with more pay and your O.K.
Money it’s a gas
Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash
New car, caviar, four star daydream,
Think I’ll buy me a football team
Money get back
I’m all right Jack keep your hands off my stack.
Money it’s a hit
Don’t give me that do goody good bullshit
I’m in the hi-fidelity first class traveling set
And I think I need a Lear jet
I think it has more to do with the fact that he’s now writing a comic about a large number of horny teenagers and it’s quite so messed up about sex anymore.
I mean, I’m not creating extra sexiness. While there was no new sexings happening in DoA, I had to go over and do a few Shortpacked!-based porns to fill the gap until the opportunity for them returned over in this strip. And the Amazi-Girl/Danny one was a last-minute decision, and its leading-in strips were not originally meant to lead into such a thing.
But generally I have resigned myself to bunches of people accusing me of whatever once these things started, so eh.
It seems like you just can’t win. Before the Danny/Amazi-Girl slipshine, I saw folks in the comments and on tumblr absolutely begging you for another slipshine comic. Even specifically begging for another DoA Slipshine comic.
Then you make more of them and make them fit in to the story line beautifully, and people gripe and say you’re a money-hungry greedy bastard.
I’m more of the mind that if you’re not a fan of the Slipshine stuff, don’t read it and don’t buy it. It’s not like they’re interfering with the comic here in anyway. They’re just adding details to the parts that would have been implied otherwise (at least, I’m assuming.), so why make a fuss?
In other words: keep doin’ what you do, David. 😉
I think it’s awesome that you make canonical porn! There’s so much social pressure to isolate explicit sex scenes in their own creative ghetto away from serious stories, which itself inhibits the ability to tell a serious multi-faceted story *including* a serious sex scene, so I’m really glad to see you bridging that rarely-explored gap! I hope you continue to stand up for what you believe in doing and keep making these well into the future.
Now if only I had money to actually read them… maybe one day. Lots of financial stuff to work out before then, though, alas.
Sidenote question: I believe you once suggested that a Sal/Jason slipshine piece could be on the works — but I think that was postponed or abandoned because of the Danny/Amber one. So my question is, was it just postponed or completely abandoned? Or to put it differently, would you say that Slipshine suscribers are going to get the Sal/Jason piece too eventually?
I’m curious about something. Let’s say, hypothetically, that it was never in the script for Danny and Ethan to go all the way, to make it to actual sex. Now that you have made so many Slipshines, would you feel compelled to change the script to include Danny and Ethan porn, just for the sake of equality and balance for your yaoi fans? Or is this a moot point, and you’ve had a plan to make Danny and Ethan porn from the get-go?
‘Not quite so messed up about sex anymore’
That damn shirt’s getting in the way, now
Willis, you sly dog, busting out film transition jokes in the alt text
I wish more webcomic artists did the porn thing. I could think of a few other couples out there I’d like to see. Now excuse me while I go fund Willis’ robot toy habit.
Plus Slipshine is full of great artist that I’m super happy to support. Way more than boring old regular pornography!
Jesus, Willis. You’ve gone porn-crazy.
He’s caught dicks-disease
despite having lesbians and bisexuals doing the nasty as well.
And when are we getting that epic gay men thing? The one you said your wife was helping you with?
It’s ‘Pornlord Willis’ now! PRAISE THE PORNLORD!
And now, time to savor some pickled ginger.
But… But… But I don’t have money for slipshine. Why god. Why. 🙁
Don’t worry, it should stay archived until we’re ready.
So…Billie and Ruth pound each other in the most epic of Hatefucks?
They have to fight Walkyverse Amber and Mike for that title. It’s the Pornlympics.
I see you shiver with antici………………pation.
SAY IT
Man, I can’t afford a Slipshine subsciption (but oh how I wish I could^^), so I’m just gonna let my imagination run wild instead. And I don’t even have to wait until tomorrow for that, my brain is already working in overdrive 😉
So, Ruth.
A “Canadian boyfriend”, eh? I suppose we’ll never get to meet him.
She HAD one so I doubt they’re seeing each other now.
He’s probably too polite to just drop in on her like Becky did with Joyce.
A likely story.
Usually, I spurn affectionate moments like this. But I’m having a good day today, so I’m gonna just say it; D’aaaaaaaaaaaaawww
FINALLY
So Mr. Willis sir.
I find it just a little bit odd that your pornos are always either 1) het or 2) lesbian.
Any chance that you will do dude on dude at some point? Just wondering.
I know you don’t mean it this way, but sometimes the fact that you only have done those two kinds makes it feel a little bit like your lesbians exist in your comics for your own sexual pleasure less as characters. Like I’m not even saying you’re doing it intentionally! You’re probably not! But lesbians as dude eyecandy is just a bit too common for me to be totally comfortable with this.
I guess it’s weird for me to say that my respect for you would be upped if you did a dude on dude porn, but it would.
(sorry if this post gives offense.)
He has dropped hints about the possibility. So far there hasn’t been a male/male relationship that could lead to one yet
I think he said on Tumblr that he was waiting for a chance to work it in the story. Unfortunately for us, Ethan and Danny have some issues to work out (like how both are dating other people), so it might be a while. I, personally, don’t mind waiting. I bet it’ll be a big draw for Slipshine when it finally happens, though!
Dumbing of Age is about Joyce and the other women who live in her wing of her dorm. As such, it has like five dude characters versus dozes of ladies, and the dudes are largely peripheral. The opportunity for porns that involve women is built into the premise of the webcomic.
Does my own sexuality play into what I draw for porn? Of course. It’d be disingenuous to say otherwise. When you draw porn, it’s probably going to be something that somehow is tantalizing to yourself. That’s how drawing sexy things generally works — you draw things you find sexy.
Regardless, I want there to be a male/male porn. There will be a male/male porn. I want to be inclusive and not leave that segment out of the equation. I’m interested in attempting to draw it just for answering certain questions — like, can I draw a good porn in which I’m not actually sexually invested at all? Can I draw it in a way that it doesn’t feel like “yeah, this is the pity porn for the gay dudes.” Does it feel like the others?
I see those questions as challenges, not excuses, so it’ll happen. I’m interested in drawing male/male if only for that aspect. Can I do it? Plus, again, the desire for inclusiveness. The opportunities are merely fewer because of the demographics of the cast. But if you notice, there are certain openings, and those are not a coincidence.
Regardless, there are limitations built into my sexual identity. Even if I try, I can’t possibly be everything to everybody, and sometimes my attempt to be so is a self-destructive aspect of me. I do have to be wary of it sometimes.
I do wonder if you’ve seen any of my porn while asking some of these questions. In them do you think I treat people with respect, as individuals, as people, and not strictly as sexual objects? That is what I strive for, at any rate. That’s what I find attractive. Pictures of boobs are less than a dime a dozen, who cares. What matters to me are the people, and figuring out how each pair differs from the last. If you have seen them, I would like to hear your feelings.
I admire you, sir.
Awesome.
I totally trust your ability to draw gay porn; even though I haven’t seen any of the porn you’ve drawn. Your point about the characters being individuals/people making it attractive is totally correct. In other words, I trust your ability to do that. There are a lot of pictures of dudes having sex, but none of them are David Willis characters, yet, and that’s too bad.
This is the internet. There have to be smutty some edits or fanart out there.
Your pornography is excellent. I feel like you really do focus on the characters themselves. None of them have seemed “samey” to me. You stay true to each individual. And the part I love best? The sex scenes feel real! You keep in the awkwardness that happens during sex. You make sure they practice safe sex! It’s wonderful. (I’m sort of expecting that Billie and Ruth will not be practicing safe sex, simply because that feels like the kind of thing that would happen. But shit, if they break out the dental dams and rubber gloves I will love you forever)
I, personally, don’t take issue with you doing the porn that you’ve been doing. But I’m a lesbian so uh. *cough* I like the boobies. But I also am a fan of dude on dude porn for some weird reason, so I look forwards to seeing it! Personally, I don’t even care if you’re doing it because you want to get off to it yourself. I think that if the artist is slightly turned on, the work will be better.
I think that you and Jess Fink are my favorite pornographers. (Guys if you want to read Jess, go read Chester 5000 NOW–but don’t forget to subscribe to slipshine so you can see all of the other sexy artists as well) Thank you for doing what you do! We all really appreciate it. 🙂
If you need advice when it comes time for the dude/dude comic I’m available for consultation.
It’s probably far too late in the day to ask this, but is there any chance of you going back and doing the Roz/Joe tape? As the only scene thus far that has IN SETTING wide viewership, it seems odd if it’s the one the audience never sees.
Also, I like Roz. lol
Might be a bit weird since sleeping Danny would be there too.
I dunno, maybe, if I get stuck in a place where nobody else is readily doing it and I need to put something out. Roz/Joe aren’t the most compelling couple to me AND they’re probably way better at the deed than my simple Missionary Style fundie brain can imagine, so I’d worry I’d draw it insufficiently amazing. And, y’know, if their reputations at all matched reality, then I’d probably have to draw like 120 pages and bankrupt Slipshine with my pagerate.
Not ruling it out, just prioritizing it behind other possibilities. I guess if there were a groundswell of demand, then that’d change.
I’ll take that as “Maybe someday after I practice more positions first” then… Works for me!
Willis, my respect for you has just increased, yet again. 🙂
Same here, and I was previously unaware that that level of respect and admiration was possible.
I just had a look at the Billie/Ruth story. Wow.
For some years, I have been impressed by the way you handled different kinds of issues (sexual or non-sexual). A while back I blurted out a question on Tumblr wanting to know if you were ever going to have a loving D/s relationship in DoA (at the time thinking of Walky/Dorothy or possibly Marcie/Sal). You gave me a typical non-committal answer that seemed to indicate a certain lack of clue, and completely fooled me into giving up on the thought. Well, damn you, Mr Willis, sir. I have been answered. For my sins, I have been answered.
In return, maybe I should give my answer to your questions. Do I think you treat your characters as people and not strictly as sexual objects?
Um, is Barney Stinson awesome?
The sexuality and sensuality in your sex comics is soundly based on and flows naturally from the characters’ established personalities. Nothing really seems contrived or tacked-on, and nothing forces me to reevaluate the characters afterwards (I was afraid I would “think less” of Walky and Dorothy, but nope). You do manage to present each couple as different from the next, even if some character happens to be the same character in another continuity. And I very much like the almost complete absence of “porn perfection”. There are freckles, there are love handles, there are boobs that don’t perpetually stand to attention but rather prefer to hang out with gravity. There are juices, there is loss of coherent speech, there is that strange mixture of tender and harsh that goes with completely losing it in bed. There are tough people going timid, there are shy people going wild. There is unabashed and involved female sexuality. There are males who blend taking charge with wanting reassurance. I laugh, I get turned on, I am loving it.
And yeah, a couple with switch D/s dynamics. Huh. Didn’t really see that coming, even though it sometimes seemed Billie would submit to Ruth (which would have been problematic in several ways). This is much better. Thanks.
I feel I need to clarify one point here. I never “think less” about real people for having PMHP or whatever. However, comics characters (*spoiler alert*) aren’t real, so if they start behaving in a way that isn’t consistent with their reality (e.g. start having sex not because they are sexual people but because the artist can make a buck out of it) I get confused and become less involved in them, which pretty much kills my interest in the comic as a whole. I was afraid that the respective characterizations of Dorothy and Walky were being sacrificed for the sake of producing pr0n. Having read the piece in question, I now know that this isn’t true.
Clarification to the clarification.
I of course don’t mean to say that it’s wrong for the artist to make money: after all, that’s what a professional artist does to stay in business.
In answer to your question about whether I’ve seen your prons thus far, no I haven’t. I’d be curious to see them, but I don’t wanna pay a slipshine subscription.
I think for myself also, your art doesn’t particularly lend itself to porn. This is purely subjective opinion, of course. But I mean I’ll aways be more interested in looking at something like Amanda LaFrenais’ porn art. There’s something really appealing about an artist willing to put a real sense of flesh on living characters, but of course there’s no way it’s anywhere near as easy a thing to do as she makes it look.
Thank you for your thoughtful answer to my question.
God has answered our prayers
Finally college is shaping up to be a bit more like Billie’s expectations.
Those two are so adorable :3
Good.
Two bi girls, just doing a thang like it ain’t no thang…
My bi-eautiful women. Have a moment of intimacy. You deserve it.
So the Slipshine is coming out on my birthday, and it’s the first one I actually want to see. Too bad I don’t have a subscription…
Put it on a wishlist you only show to people you are comfortable discussing your tastes in porn with?
Geez, what does Willies have to do? Send you a comicogram? 🙂
Billie will mock Ruth later.
When her mouth isn’t full.
Of Ruth.
“Ah con’t bereef OOH own lanjaway, Wuth – ahuh huh huh huh. Wus nek, Mah Lil Po-ee unnerweah?”
“Fuck you–ahhhh–Billie… don’t stop or I’ll–hsssst–murder you twice.”
Let the rug munching begin. I don’t know how experienced these two are in performing F/F sex, but a mutual voyage of personal discovery would be quite endearing.
I would hazard a guess that Billie and Alice fucked, but I can’t be sure about that. As for Ruth, I have no idea! If she’s a virgin with the ladies, I can’t wait to see her first time! Plus, people giving direction to their partners is sexy. 😉
Ruth told Billie earlier that she was how she discovered she was into ladies, so I’m thinking she has no experience beyond whatever drunken fumbling they got up to last night.
Now I’m incredibly sad I had to cancel my Slipshine subscription.
Dat tsunderriere.
Sorry, sorry, been holding that in for a few strips now.
Brilliant.
*takes a bow, narrowly dodging a bullet in the process*
I love Ruth’s face, it has an air of “I should stay in character and act bossy but YES PLEASE do sexy things to me”.
I love this but i dont see how theyll be able to do anything unless they have a dildo.
The same way every lady/lady couple does.
Cunnilingus is very possible for women to engage in with other women. As is fingering each other. And tribadism.
There are plenty of possible answers, but why speculate? Go buy the slipshine!
If you seriously can’t think of anything two ladies can do with their natural equipment to get each other off, I honestly feel sorry for you. Most of it isn’t even limited to the ladies; heterosexual couples can do it too. And my experience has been that the ladies enjoy those things more than just stickin’ it in.
Seriously. Mutual masturbation still exists when it’s ladies doing it! So does cunnilingus! Granted, they don’t TELL us about this shit because sex ed sucks, but it exists! You don’t need a penis involved to have a good time!
I guess superior sex-ed is another of the benefits to growing up in California. Fair trade for all the restrictions on concealable weaponry, I suppose.
Oh you sweet summer child.
O.O
Please be trolling.
I can’t imagine that they aren’t. This thread comes up with astonishing regularity, and it’s the same every time. Willis even made a Shortpacked pointing out the answers the above commenters have given.
I was hoping Jenna is just very young and/or naïve.
Though, I was very naïve for way too long and I think I could have imagined ways in which two women could get each other off before I even fully knew what sex was and long before I knew what a dildo was.
Ordinarily I’d assume someone saying such a thing would be a cis-male (a young cis-male, specifically) but with the chosen name of Jenna, I’m thinking not. And that’s baffling to me.
Fingering, eating pussy, eating ass, sucking nipples. And from THOSE things, you can branch off into other things too! Some people also like to scissor but bleh to annoying. Why do that when you can just grind while on top? *shrugs* But yeah. Toys are fun too, but they are not necessary! I hope your definition of sex isn’t just penis in the vajayjay and nothing else, cause that kind is too quick for me. :/ I like at least an hour of lovin’. Never had lover with a dick be able to plow for an hour–nor would I have wanted that!
Then one day he laughed at me…
Strong, sexy, independent, SCARY Ruth stammering and fumbling at the idea of sexy times with Billie who can be confident, experienced and lead the way. Oh yes, this is delicious for Billie.
Nice to see Billie taking charge, and being moderately good with it.
I like that the porn comic featuring a Canadian gets a bilingual name.
I enjoy more Ruth explaining to her Lesbian lover that she had a “Boyfriend in Canada”. I know the context means she’s not trying to pass it off like this, but it just reminds me of Avenue Q.
Oh Willis, who knew your destiny would be porn? PORN PORN PORN PORN!
Whatever makes you happy.
Damn you, Willis. You may have just pushed me over the Slipshine edge. How do I explain this extraneous cost to my husband? 😉
He probably already has an account. See if you can find out his username; his password is likely to be your name.
Oh I wish you could meet my boyfriend.
My boyfriend who lived in Canada!
He’s such a big sweetums
I wish you could meet hims
My boyfriend who lived in Canada!
Willis – THE PORNOMANCER