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by David M Willis on November 18, 2019 at 12:01 am
  • 01 - Birthday Pursuit
└ Tags: dina, sarah

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  1. Jen Aside
    Jen Aside
    November 18, 2019 at 12:02 am | #

    I hope it’s the cat’s birthday, too

    BIRTHDAY CONVERGENCE

    • Regalli
      Regalli
      November 18, 2019 at 12:08 am | #

      Have we named the cat yet? If not, I suggest Pizza Cat.

      • vitalProximity
        vitalProximity
        November 18, 2019 at 12:16 am | #

        All the pizza that was left in the box when Sarah was surprised by Dina has magically teleported into Pizza Cat’s tummy.

        (It’s a Dina-Catspiracy)

      • fire_daws
        fire_daws
        November 18, 2019 at 1:58 pm | #

        Garlic Bread Kitty

        • Slartibeast Button, BIA
          Slartibeast Button, BIA
          November 18, 2019 at 7:28 pm | #

          I saw what you did there, Calzone Lass.

    • a/snow/mous/e
      a/snow/mous/e
      November 18, 2019 at 12:09 am | #

      That’d be neat!

  2. Doctor_Who
    Doctor_Who
    November 18, 2019 at 12:03 am | #

    It’s the Triceratop. It adds +4 charisma points.

    The other 96 are all Dina.

    • King Daniel
      King Daniel
      November 18, 2019 at 12:05 am | #

      With that much Charisma, she must be an Epic-level Sorcerer!

      …huh, that would explain the invisibility/teleportation…

      • a/snow/mous/e
        a/snow/mous/e
        November 18, 2019 at 12:10 am | #

        What’s really surprising is that nobody thought of that sooner!

    • abysswatcher1993
      abysswatcher1993
      November 18, 2019 at 12:59 am | #

      Thanks goodness Dina is a good person. If someone got her triceratops hat there would be a repetition of the high charisma hat from SAO Abridged.

      • abysswatcher1993
        abysswatcher1993
        November 18, 2019 at 1:00 am | #

        Triceratops hoodie.

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        November 18, 2019 at 7:03 am | #

        Or of wearing a lizard on your head from some webcomic I can’t quite place.

        • anonamousethatscurriesinthedarkness
          anonamousethatscurriesinthedarkness
          November 18, 2019 at 10:26 am | #

          Webcomic? There are a few out there now. [SHET SHET SHET]
          TV series? Can’t think of the name but the hair was always frizzy.

        • Bicycle Bill
          Bicycle Bill
          November 18, 2019 at 3:14 pm | #

          Actually, wasn’t it a newspaper cartoon that first had the lizard?

          • Marsh Maryrose
            Marsh Maryrose
            November 18, 2019 at 9:52 pm | #

            Foxtrot, Quincy the iguana, usually perched on Jason’s head

      • LeslieBean4shizzle
        LeslieBean4shizzle
        November 18, 2019 at 8:23 am | #

        And a smooth SAOA reference? My cup runneth over.
        (and yes, I checked Joyce and Walky before Dumbing)

  3. ValdVin
    ValdVin
    November 18, 2019 at 12:04 am | #

    Funny, we’re just thru a “How is this somehow still charming?” arc for Walky on the other side.

    No wonder those two got together in one universe.

    • JetstreamGW
      JetstreamGW
      November 18, 2019 at 12:09 am | #

      “How is this somehow still charming” is a great book title.

      • Tan
        Tan
        November 18, 2019 at 12:26 am | #

        Dumbing of Age Book 10: How is this somehow still charming? I do not know!

        (the question and answer together are important, I think)

        • JetstreamGW
          JetstreamGW
          November 18, 2019 at 11:45 pm | #

          I think it’s better without it.

          Book 10: How is This Somehow Still Charming?

          It’s snarky.

    • Lokitsu
      Lokitsu
      November 18, 2019 at 12:12 am | #

      Except that Walky and Dina together were a train wreck.

      • ValdVin
        ValdVin
        November 18, 2019 at 12:15 am | #

        Oh, yes, they were very different people who were very different types of still charming. But still…

  4. Chaucer59
    Chaucer59
    November 18, 2019 at 12:04 am | #

    The world needs more Dinas.

  5. Jess
    Jess
    November 18, 2019 at 12:05 am | #

    Two important questions: what’s the cat’s name and whose cat is it!!

    • Stephen Bierce
      Stephen Bierce
      November 18, 2019 at 12:08 am | #

      I Been Through The Boudoir With A Cat With No Name…

      • Geneseepaws
        Geneseepaws
        November 18, 2019 at 6:54 am | #

        That was on the First album by the Beagles, right?

    • vitalProximity
      vitalProximity
      November 18, 2019 at 12:09 am | #

      Two contradictory answers: 1) It’s Sarah’s cat now, b****! 2) Don’t you mean, who belongs to the cat?

      • ValdVin
        ValdVin
        November 18, 2019 at 12:18 am | #

        Yeah, the cat seems to have claimed Sarah pretty successfully.

    • AbelUndercity
      AbelUndercity
      November 18, 2019 at 5:13 am | #

      Since Willis won’t tag the cat, I hereby dub them Tag, the Cat.

      • Clif
        Clif
        November 18, 2019 at 7:09 am | #

        No, no. It’s PizzaCat.

        • Kamino Neko
          Kamino Neko
          November 18, 2019 at 8:42 pm | #

          It looks NOTHING like Speedy or Polly.

      • King Daniel
        King Daniel
        November 18, 2019 at 11:52 am | #

        #TagTheCat

    • hof1991
      hof1991
      November 18, 2019 at 7:36 am | #

      It’s The Cat who Walks Through Walls. Explains the teleportation.

    • Seregiel
      Seregiel
      November 18, 2019 at 1:23 pm | #

      http://www.dumbingofage.com/2019/comic/book-10/01-birthday-pursuit/designated/

      Name might be unknown if wacky hijinx are afoot.

      • Jess
        Jess
        November 19, 2019 at 12:07 am | #

        I had completely forgotten that. Good on Becky.

  6. Sirksome
    Sirksome
    November 18, 2019 at 12:06 am | #

    24. Sarah does not look a day over 24….because when this comic started she was at least two years older than I am and I don’t know how old she is but now she’s like at least four to five years younger than me!

    • Norah
      Norah
      November 18, 2019 at 12:12 am | #

      She’s either 19 or 20, depending on when students in school system were allowed to start school. Because her birthday is in October, she probably had to wait until the year she turned 6 to start kindergarten. Because she’s now a sophomore in college, she’s probably 20.

      • Nono
        Nono
        November 18, 2019 at 12:33 am | #

        She’s 20. Ruth and Billie discussed this in an earlier strip.

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          November 18, 2019 at 7:51 am | #

          Turning 20, right?
          That still seems old to me. I was 19 my entire sophomore year and while I knew people who turned 20, that was later, in the spring.
          I think the usual age to start school has shifted a bit later since my time though.

          • Seregiel
            Seregiel
            November 18, 2019 at 1:19 pm | #

            States have different cut off dates for school too. If she started in one state and moved to another half way through her education that would put her in the older group easily.

  7. Bagge
    Bagge
    November 18, 2019 at 12:08 am | #

    I really enjoy how Dina acknowledges that she navigates this social situation by following a script she doesn’t understand… yet totally nails it!

    • vitalProximity
      vitalProximity
      November 18, 2019 at 12:10 am | #

      Same! She is so on point. <3

    • Jamie
      Jamie
      November 18, 2019 at 12:21 am | #

      Practicing your white voice is an important part of growing up!

      • Delicious Taffy
        Delicious Taffy
        November 18, 2019 at 5:16 am | #

        Practicing your what, now? I’d look it up, but I don’t really need that pair of words, in that order, in my search history.

        • Clif
          Clif
          November 18, 2019 at 7:39 am | #

          I suspect a spell-correct incident, but maybe not.

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          November 18, 2019 at 7:56 am | #

          It’s a traditional Eastern European style of singing. What that has to do with this, I don’t have the faintest idea. 🙂

    • JBento
      JBento
      November 18, 2019 at 8:32 am | #

      She’s not the only one. The difference is that I keep the script in my head and I’m immensely proud of myself whenever I only fuck it up a little.

  8. Suet
    Suet
    November 18, 2019 at 12:09 am | #

    That’ll just be weird, looking older when turning older. Us? Nah, we’ll never look old.

    Luck did not favor Dina when she had to be given social attributes, and thus, hi-jinx galore

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      November 18, 2019 at 2:14 am | #

      Between cosmetics and plastic surgery, I bet humanity spends trillions every year on the war on aging.

  9. Mra
    Mra
    November 18, 2019 at 12:10 am | #

    Two people a pizza and a cat, that is the best party an introvert could ask for

    • sultryglebe
      sultryglebe
      November 18, 2019 at 12:26 am | #

      This does seem perfect for Sarah.

    • Felian
      Felian
      November 18, 2019 at 1:34 am | #

      I’m glad the party planners gave them this quiet room to actually celebrate the way they like it. The question is, why does the other room exist 😛

      • Terry
        Terry
        November 18, 2019 at 2:39 am | #

        So that the many friends that both of them have managed to collect can celebrate their birth and no one needs to be left out. They can still poke out and see all the people who are happy to know them while having the safety of a place to retreat to. It’s pretty ideal really.

      • Makkabee
        Makkabee
        November 19, 2019 at 12:59 am | #

        Because it’s more fun for Sarah to be in a room by herself when she gets to snub a whole room full of other people to do so.

    • Keulen
      Keulen
      November 18, 2019 at 2:52 am | #

      That sounds like a pretty good party to me.

  10. Corlanthis
    Corlanthis
    November 18, 2019 at 12:10 am | #

    It’s because you’re currently petting a (presumably) purring cat, Sarah. That’s why!

  11. ValdVin
    ValdVin
    November 18, 2019 at 12:11 am | #

    Hey, a question from a guy who is not ‘aware of all internet traditions’: Is there an equation for the “relatively younger age number you find flattering”?

    • Jamie
      Jamie
      November 18, 2019 at 12:23 am | #

      No, because it’s too individually subjective. The XKCD dateable age equation works because it’s calculating society’s opinion.

    • Clif
      Clif
      November 18, 2019 at 12:24 am | #

      No. What individuals find flattering varies erratically.

    • TemperaryObsessor
      TemperaryObsessor
      November 18, 2019 at 12:54 am | #

      (Age/100)+17
      (Age/100)+18
      (Age/100)+25
      (Age+18)/2
      Lowest age that if they told you they were still that age you would believe them.
      Age-1
      Based on your accomplishments and wisdom I would have guessed you were ten years older, based on your curiosity, energy level, memory, and agility I would have guessed you were ten years younger.

  12. Su Xing
    Su Xing
    November 18, 2019 at 12:16 am | #

    There are different types of charming. Sometimes people are charming because they’re so obviously at ease with themselves, you can’t help but feel that way, too. Some people have a rough charm, some people’s charm is more smooth. There are a lot of other examples I could mention here but the relevant one is this one: sometimes people who are chronically socially awkward for one reason or another decide that instead of feeling anxious about it, they’re just going to OWN that awkwardness and live with it the best they can. It might seem like a lot of work at first to get through a conversation with that person who stares at their own feet and blushes the whole time, but that person’s learned to make themselves blurt out “Sorry, I’m just very, very shy” at the start and if you give them even half a chance you find out that they’ve really got some cool stuff to say. (And, yes, this is a real person – it’s not me, just someone interesting I’ve met.)

    The way Dina is written, I feel like she has that kind of charm.

    • Mollyscribbles
      Mollyscribbles
      November 18, 2019 at 12:26 am | #

      Dina makes people feel more at ease because she puts zero pressure on others regarding social expectations. You follow the script of Appropriate Words and then sit in silence, it’s all good.

  13. Marie
    Marie
    November 18, 2019 at 12:16 am | #

    Wait. She has a cat now? Kitttttttyyyyyyyyeeeeee!!1!

    • Mollyscribbles
      Mollyscribbles
      November 18, 2019 at 12:23 am | #

      The cat adopted her.

  14. Mollyscribbles
    Mollyscribbles
    November 18, 2019 at 12:22 am | #

    I will say this is more charming, because the other day I realized that there is actually a point where it’s not actually flattering to be told you look younger, in that my junior high teacher told me I hadn’t changed a bit.

    I’m 35, and I had frequent crying jags in the middle of class back then, so the thought kind of horrified me.

  15. Annika
    Annika
    November 18, 2019 at 12:44 am | #

    Can Dina be canonically autistic? I really appreciate the representation as it stands, because I don’t see many characters who share my struggles (Dina is so relatable to me!) but I don’t recall it ever being explicitly stated, even though she shows all of the signs of it.

    • Chiatroll
      Chiatroll
      November 18, 2019 at 1:28 am | #

      I thought she was.

    • Rabid Rabbit
      Rabid Rabbit
      November 18, 2019 at 2:13 am | #

      Willis answered this a while ago: https://dumbingofage.tumblr.com/post/124121859452/hi-willis-community-clips-are-great-and-all-but

      • Keulen
        Keulen
        November 18, 2019 at 3:05 am | #

        Reading that reminds me of the times I’ve wondered if I might have some undiagnosed form of autism. It seems like I fit some of the signs, but not others.

        • Sam
          Sam
          November 18, 2019 at 3:54 am | #

          You don’t need to fit every sign to be autistic. As I have seen people say before, it tends to be more like a topping bar of symptoms rather than every autistic person is the exact same in symptoms. It can also overlap a lot with ADHD in terms of symptoms.

      • Masumi
        Masumi
        November 18, 2019 at 4:35 am | #

        Holy wow, I identify with that so damn much. That fear of being unable to connect. The conciously learned social masks. I know these things all to well. And ironically, knowing that someone else knows these feelings does make me feel connected, so thanks for sharing, Willis 🙂

  16. Beef
    Beef
    November 18, 2019 at 12:49 am | #

    I just wanna be as happy as that cat

    • Masumi
      Masumi
      November 18, 2019 at 4:35 am | #

      I just wanna be the cat. Can I be the cat?

      • Clif
        Clif
        November 18, 2019 at 7:16 am | #

        We were all PizzaCat all along.

  17. abysswatcher1993
    abysswatcher1993
    November 18, 2019 at 12:58 am | #

    Dina has the charisma of a Persona protagonist and the awareness of John Egbert. In other words, she is perfect the way she is… except when she accepts dinosaurs bought with blood money from political campaigns. I can’t forgive that easily.

    • Clif
      Clif
      November 18, 2019 at 7:23 am | #

      That’s because your priorities are screwed up. Nothing is more important than dinosaurs, said the man living a life of ease in the land stolen from the bloody crushed hands of its native inhabitants.

  18. BBCC
    BBCC
    November 18, 2019 at 1:08 am | #

    Because Dina genuinely wants to be nice in her social interactions even though she doesn’t understand how they work, that’s why Sarah.

  19. BenRG
    BenRG
    November 18, 2019 at 2:14 am | #

    Everyone needs a Dina in their lives to remind them about how essentially ridiculous and yet amazingly reassuring and relaxing all these social interaction conventions actually are!

  20. Koms
    Koms
    November 18, 2019 at 2:48 am | #

    There’s a sleeping cat!!!! I’m already charmed.

    • BenRG
      BenRG
      November 18, 2019 at 2:58 am | #

      Not sleeping but rubbing against Sarah’s hand and lap because, quite frankly, they should be the centre of Sarah’s attention, not the other two-legs. Yes, I’ve had cats in my life; how did you know?

      • He Who Abides
        He Who Abides
        November 18, 2019 at 4:56 am | #

        Certain breeds of dog are that way, too.

      • ValdVin
        ValdVin
        November 18, 2019 at 10:16 am | #

        How animal-charismatic is Sarah that the cat wants Sarah, and not pizza?

  21. Keulen
    Keulen
    November 18, 2019 at 2:49 am | #

    DoA Book number whatever: You Do Not Look A Day Older Than Whichever Relatively-Younger Age Number You Find Flattering

    • ValdVin
      ValdVin
      November 18, 2019 at 10:15 am | #

      I would so buy a birthday card of that last panel with only Dina’s speech bubble.

      (I say that as a guy who is both older than Willis, and also has married a cougar.)

  22. Megan Rivera
    Megan Rivera
    November 18, 2019 at 2:54 am | #

    Okay, two things.

    Dina is my favorite, she’s adorable and sweet and a genuinely nice person.

    and

    Please More CATS!!!

  23. Eyebrow
    Eyebrow
    November 18, 2019 at 3:13 am | #

    I must be late to the party. Can someone please tell me how to find the alt-text on a mobile nowadays? The old method doesn’t seem to work anymore.

    • Delicious Taffy
      Delicious Taffy
      November 18, 2019 at 5:10 am | #

      Very carefully.

    • Clif
      Clif
      November 18, 2019 at 7:27 am | #

      On this comic only, tap on the clear area to the right of the arrows.

  24. Zaxares
    Zaxares
    November 18, 2019 at 3:51 am | #

    Dina has high Intelligence, high Charisma, but low Wisdom. 😉

    • HeySo
      HeySo
      November 18, 2019 at 4:54 am | #

      Wisdom is perception of the world around you, which she far exceeds other cast members on. Social awareness is typically a subcategory of charisma, rather than wisdom, since it relates to understanding and properly manipulating social expectations, rather than to general awareness / logical ability / life experience / intuitive deduction / other facets associated with wisdom.

    • He Who Abides
      He Who Abides
      November 18, 2019 at 4:55 am | #

      Aw, I was gonna say that!

  25. Earlofthercs
    Earlofthercs
    November 18, 2019 at 6:50 am | #

    I remember rolling a high Charisma, high Intellect, low Awareness character and thinking, I’ve rolled for Autism, I need to have a special interest in my background and sink all my knowledge points into that. Just like I have in real life.

    • Earlofthercs
      Earlofthercs
      November 18, 2019 at 6:52 am | #

      I like how my profile pic is still me dressed as Sun Wukong for a children’s literacy and multicultural event from years ago, and that the photo was snapped while I was eating a banana on my break completely unaware of the irony

  26. BenRG
    BenRG
    November 18, 2019 at 7:27 am | #

    I’ve always appreciated how Sarah treats Dina kindly but doesn’t coddle her or act condescendingly. She takes her on her own merits and accepts that this is just the way she acts and thinking of it as ‘weird’ does not help at all.

  27. MaddMaxx
    MaddMaxx
    November 18, 2019 at 8:06 am | #

    Thank you, Willis. This and the previous strip have been the greatest things to ever grace my eyes.

  28. Kitsune
    Kitsune
    November 18, 2019 at 8:22 am | #

    Happy Birthday to a fellow Aspie

  29. Reltzik
    Reltzik
    November 18, 2019 at 8:25 am | #

    I, too, have that question about listicles.

  30. Josh Spicer
    Josh Spicer
    November 18, 2019 at 8:41 am | #

    Dina’s existence warrants everything she does being charming.

  31. sunflowerofice
    sunflowerofice
    November 18, 2019 at 8:42 am | #

    Also high dex based on how good her stealth score is.

  32. Rabisch
    Rabisch
    November 18, 2019 at 8:51 am | #

    Awww. Sarah has not stop to pet the cat for all the speak with Dina.

    • DarkoNeko
      DarkoNeko
      November 18, 2019 at 8:55 am | #

      damn right

  33. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    November 18, 2019 at 8:55 am | #

    I expected it to end with “…do you have a pen so I can cross it off the list ?”

  34. Garrulous
    Garrulous
    November 18, 2019 at 9:24 am | #

    She’s got a list, but does she check it twice?

  35. Cmd1095
    Cmd1095
    November 18, 2019 at 9:45 am | #

    Oh Dina you will never stop being charming

  36. Wakeangel2001
    Wakeangel2001
    November 18, 2019 at 10:10 am | #

    when you’re cute and non-threatening it doesn’t matter if your speech patterns make you sound like a borderline sociopath

    • TemperaryObsessor
      TemperaryObsessor
      November 18, 2019 at 12:07 pm | #

      There might be some truth to that but to me that has nothing to do with this.
      Dina sounds like she thinks differently but never gives the impressions that she thinks other peoples feelings don’t matter as more than a tool to get what she wants. Nor does she treat anything that is really common decency as useless BS society expects from her, and when she gets things wrong in a way that might honestly upset people it feels like a honest mistake not a “mistake”.

  37. PB
    PB
    November 18, 2019 at 12:00 pm | #

    This is adorable, but seriously whose kitty is that

    • PB
      PB
      November 18, 2019 at 12:02 pm | #

      Also did Dina learn how to teleport from Joyce? Because that’s a much better gift than a $5 Amazon gift card.

      • King Daniel
        King Daniel
        November 18, 2019 at 4:26 pm | #

        Dina’s been teleporting for a lot longer than Joyce has, I’d almost say it’s the other way around.

        • HMH
          HMH
          November 18, 2019 at 7:43 pm | #

          I don’t think Dina teleports, I think it’s more of a “phase-in, phase-out” sort of relationship with corporeality.

          • Slartibeast Button, BIA
            Slartibeast Button, BIA
            November 18, 2019 at 9:12 pm | #

            I’d always assumed a “Someone Else’s Problem Field” deal. She is there all along, but no one notices her until she wants them to. Including DYW.

        • Marsh Maryrose
          Marsh Maryrose
          November 18, 2019 at 9:58 pm | #

          Dina doesn’t teleport. She just has a cloaking device.

          • plasticwrap
            plasticwrap
            November 19, 2019 at 2:13 am | #

            *STEALTH 100*

  38. TheFlamingonator
    TheFlamingonator
    November 18, 2019 at 12:21 pm | #

    Why is the cat not tagged? I must know the cats name (please let it be Mustard)

    • TemperaryObsessor
      TemperaryObsessor
      November 18, 2019 at 5:03 pm | #

      Well my cat is not tagged because his collar caused friction wounds or something. Could be something like that.

      • BBCC
        BBCC
        November 18, 2019 at 5:28 pm | #

        I think they mean the website tags.

  39. Seregiel
    Seregiel
    November 18, 2019 at 1:22 pm | #

    http://www.dumbingofage.com/2019/comic/book-10/01-birthday-pursuit/designated/

    I hope Becky didn’t really steal it, and she’s taking her new independence with at least a small smidge of responsibility. Please let her be adopting/fostering a rescue so she can have a fur baby with Dina.

    • plasticwrap
      plasticwrap
      November 19, 2019 at 2:12 am | #

      Tbh, your average outside cat can’t really be stolen, it can only be temporarily relocated. Unless you take it across state lines. Then it’s a federal matter.

  40. Pocky
    Pocky
    November 18, 2019 at 6:45 pm | #

    She’s a natural born poet, she is.

  41. Samantha Johnson
    Samantha Johnson
    November 18, 2019 at 10:41 pm | #

    Dina is so endeering and adorable

  42. Kyle Voltti
    Kyle Voltti
    November 18, 2019 at 11:04 pm | #

    So in my head Dina has the cadence and tone of B-Mo from Adventure time

  43. nlips
    nlips
    November 18, 2019 at 11:50 pm | #

    It’s charming because she’s enthusiastic, genuine, and unembarrassed to be herself.

    I’m 41 and barely figuring this shit out.

  44. Romanticide
    Romanticide
    November 20, 2019 at 12:39 am | #

    The genuine effort can be seen so that is how it’s charming.

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