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I wish he was a Galasso-style side character, so we could laugh at his goofy cartoony assholeness instead of taking him seriously and recognizing him as a genuinely abusive personality.
. . . You know what? This seems like a apropo time for this question. What is Honor? What do y’all consider honor to mean and do you hold Personal honor and Outward Honor to different internal standards?
Honor is what the Shredder died without when Master Splinter nunchucked him into a garbage truck, but he survived being crushed long enough to drink ooze and turn into Kevin Nash who dropped a pier on himself.
I reckon honour to be integrity. But mostly the word seems to indicate the deferential respect of others, even or especially obtained by tacit intimidation.
I always thought that turning around and finally trying to make the effort, even if it was midway through the semester and that effort was doomed, would go a long way towards salvaging your reputation among the lecturers and maybe your grades too. But a) I went to a small university where there weren’t that many lecturers; and b) I’m a nerd who already likes math, so grains of salt all around.
I think we finally have proof Mike punches down as much as he punches up since there’s no reason to be an asshole to Walky the way he supposedly is only to “help” people or to hurt jerks.
I don’t see Mike punching down. I see Mike doing what he can to get Walky do take SOME effort to stop his rapid downward slide. Telling him he’s failing at manhood, well, adulthood, by giving up and not even trying any longer is accurate.
You don’t understand. Walky isn’t the ultimate target, Amber is. Mike is merely manipulating Walky to not improve his grades so that Amber will eventually change them. All part of Mike’s master plan to destroy Amber and leave only Amazigirl, just as he acted to create Amazigirl so many years ago.
Of course that doesn’t explain Mike and your mother.
I’m not sure how this is “punching up” OR “punching down” since that refers to systems of oppression and privilege, and this is about individual behaviors and relationships that have nothing to do with social systems. Even if Mike is a jerk in an attempt to help someone, that’s still not “punching up.”
Given Mike’s first apparent victim is a teacher abusing her position over Amber and other students, I absolutely think that’s the case. Also, Mike is abusing someone in his room.
Well… Mike does not like Walky because Walky is a bad roommate who farts excessively, has bad personal hygiene and as a result smells, and watches cartoons without using headphones. I’m not saying Mike’s behaviour is justified, but he has his reasons for it.
DON’T MOCK HONOR, WALKY! YOU DON’T KNOW HONOR! TRUE GENTLEMEN AND GENTLELADIES GIVE THEIR ALL FOR THAT FEELING OF PLUS ULTRA!!!!
Also, you can recover but you are a scumbag that feels above admiting that you need help. It’s no wonder your relationships fail faster than Joyce’s faith this semester.
At least Joyce’s faith thing is interesting. She gets a few
perspective changes here and there, realises they’re not so awful, and moves on with her life.
With Walky, it’s always “Buuuuh my graaades are bad, I’m so upset about it!” Fucking study then, dipshit. He’s like everyone in my hometown – constantly whining about a lack of self-improvement but never lifting a single goddamn finger to actually improve. As a character, he’s very true to life. Unfortunately, that part of life is exhausting to deal with.
Meh. I’m kinda through with this whole Walky grades thing. Study, don’t study, fail, don’t fail. Your dream job’s working at Mcdonald’s anyway and you don’t need a college degree for that.
That’s what he thought he wanted, but the brush with Dorothy had him reevaluating his priorities and made shit a lot more real. I think that he also really would not want to have that conversation with his parents, especially his mom, too.
Sound reasoning, but his actions don’t seem to reflect that. Dude spent last night running around in his pj’s instead of studying. Amazi-girl even offered to help him, and now he’s moping and acting like his failure is somehow inevitable. You can’t even pity him at this point.
Not Walky personally no, but I have been to college and gotten bad grades. I imagine it’s one of the more relatable problems in this comic for most people. What I don’t understand is why everyone’s still willing to sympathize with him when he’s had and still has multiple chances. For one it’s only just now midterms. He has plenty of time to pass this class even if he doesn’t ace it I guess that ultimately depends on how his class grades and stuff. I think he still has reasonable odds. Multiple people have offered to help him, including two considerably smart people. He tried tutoring a little but it went south and he kind of just dropped it. I know Jason got fired but there are other tutors at IU I’d hope. I’m not one hundred percent positive on this but I think his grades even got adjusted right? Didn’t Amber or someone do that? Fear of failure is one thing, but I think his ego is what the real issue is.
It’s not just that he’s in college and has bad grades. It’s that he’s been told his whole life that he’s “the Smart One” so every slight failure or relative difficulty is a blow not just to his self-esteem, but to his sense of identity itself. Even a partial failure is still a failure, and he’s not allowed to fail, because “that’s not who he is.” When your entire life has been built on the understanding that you are special and that your value is placed in how easily things come to you, a “C” grade feels like a tazer to the stomach right after downing six Mountain Dews and eight chili dogs. It’s not just a fear of failure, it’s a crippling terror that you have no idea who you are or what you’re supposed to do anymore.
Walky may be the Golden Child, but he was nonetheless the product of an emotionally neglectful childhood. He was raised with absolutely zero preparation for a world where he isn’t able to just skate by at his whatever pace feels comfortable. His parents put him up on a pedestal a mile tall and didn’t give him a parachute. He can’t find a way down that doesn’t result in him dying, and staying up there will just result in him starving to death anyway, so why bother taking action when all results will be the same?
The existential dread of the Special Child is fecking paralyzing.
I think Walky deserves more credit than this. I don’t know the Walkerton parent situation much except they are pretty racist and shitty so I’l take your word on that, but Walky does have agency in his own life. Unless his parents burst into his dorm and start personally tutoring him, his pass or fail is totally on him. I admit though that I’m probably underestimating how big a deal this is to Walky. One bad grade does kinda seem like small potatoes compared to battling suicidal depression, alchoholism, crisis of faith, lgbt discrimination, rape attempts, dissassociative identities ect..what everyone else is going through. So maybe I’m being unfair to him on that.
Walky never had to study to get good grades in high school, and he obviously hasn’t gotten used to the fact that he needs to study now that he’s in college. I had the same problem in my freshman year, but I learned some study methods that worked for me before my GPA slipped too much.
Unfortunately, math is a mountain. You can’t summit it until you’ve climbed the base. Walky needs some intensive help to CATCH UP, not just keep going strong from this point forward.
The real-world IU has an “automatic W” period that ends in late October. Up until then, dropping a class automatically results in a W, no hoop-jumping required. After that date, you can still get a W, but it’s entirely up to the instructor.
In DoA, according to Jason (about two weeks ago), “we’ve passed the deadline for dropping a course without academic penalty.” Does Jason consider a W to be an “academic penalty?” Or, in the floating timeline of DoA, is the auto W deadline earlier?
The question is of course moot, as the narrative arc all but demands that Walky not even consider a W.
Interesting to note, it is illegal for the college to give your grades to your parents, even if you’re not yet 18. Once you reach college, your grades are yours to disclose, or bury as deeply as you can dig a hole. This is even true if it’s a third party paying for your tuition, such as your parents.
In high school, if you have not yet turned 18, your parents can request to look at your grades, but once you hit that magical birthday, the teachers and administration ARE NOT PERMITTED to give them access.
Regardless of your age, it IS ILLEGAL for your teachers to give status updates to those who do not have a carefully delineated NEED TO KNOW.
I can’t help feeling that everyone is missing the changed grades which implies, to me at least, that if Walky actually bothered to put in some effort at this point he’d breeze through. Instead it appears that his math tutor is going to be completely stumped as to why his star pupil suddenly crashed and burned. But hey, what do I know?
Amber just did enough to get him off probation. He’s probably not a star pupil. And given his lack of motivation, he actually might have gotten himself on probation again.
Besides that, I don’t think Walky knows that Amber changed his grades in the first place. She meant well, but all she did was to, at best, delay the inevitable and, at worst, risk them both getting kicked out of college.
Hey there everyone, I dunno if this has happened to anyone else? Any comment I make on my PC has been marked as “awaiting moderation” for a few months now.
Vaguely remember someone else making a comment about the same a few years ago and Willis saying he’d look into it?
Honestly I dunno if it’s my computer being stuck on a blacklist by accident or if I got banned
I assume you’ve tried posting from different browsers on your PC?
I don’t know if this is related to your problem, but here’s something that happened to me.
For a while, my main browser on my main computer would not store my name/email on the DoA comment page, so I would just autocomplete them before posting. One day I finger-slipped and the email was right but the name wasn’t, and that went into the “awaiting moderation” queue.
Am I missing something… Aren’t midterms in the MIDDLE of a term? How can he already know his final grade when he can still at least make a C+ (if he gets over himself).
Hard to say. Last season I was a Huge fan right up until Icewave chewed its wheels off.
I think it’s between Hydra and Bite Force. I think Hydra’s flipper is potentially the most destructive weapon in the box (apart from Tombstone), but their driving needs to improve for them to deploy it effectively. Meanwhile, Bite Force wins the best engineered/best driven combo.
All this is subject to the Tombstone effect, of course. Any time Tombstone gets in the box, it has a 75% chance of destroying its opponent, but a 25% chance of destroying itself. Tombstone getting to the finals is a long shot, but preventing someone else from getting there is a certainty.
I do hope that Mammoth gets some sort of award for innovative design. If they can work out their reliability issues, they could go a lot farther next season.
I’m kind of liking DeathRoll this year with Blacksmith as a backup. I root for Duck! But they are going nowhere. Bite Force is a strong contender, but to me Hydra’s flipper isn’t all that impressive. They have to be lucky to make it count against a better built robot. And Tombstone is too erratic to go the distance, though I think it has before. My 2 cents.
I don’t know why Death Roll wasn’t in my thinking: at three KOs and one UD, they’re the only 4-0 team at the moment (though there are lots of 3-0 teams). You may be right on this.
Blacksmith is fun to watch, but hammer-type weapons have a really poor record — not enough kinetic energy, too easy to defend against with top armor. (And don’t get me started on flame weapons — I can’t remember a match where a flame weapon did anything except look awesome.)
Duck! is an amazing piece of engineering, but its defensive strategy means it relies on having the right opponent. Good for getting into the brackets, not so good for advancing.
The opposite strategy — all offense — has the same effect on Tombstone. Sheer destructiveness is good for getting it into the brackets, but its tendency to destroy itself makes it hard for Tombstone to get to the final — though it did win two seasons ago. But there are so many more top-notch competitors this season than there were then.
Hydra – you say “luck,” I say “good driving and timing.” This is always the weak spot for flippers — if you get the perfect shot, BOOM!, otherwise, nothing. Right now, they are under-performing on that score, which is why I’m giving them my underdog bet and not a top bet.
I also have soft spots for Witch Doctor, currently 3-0, and Minotaur, which is not going to make the brackets but man did they put their hearts into it.
Overall, there’s been a marked ramp-up in the quality of competition this season. But it seems to have reached a point where offensive capability is increasing faster than survivability — almost half the battles are won by KO, most of the rest by unanimous decision.
So, if Walky was taking 12 credit hours, the bare minimum for full-time status, then he’d lose financial aid benefits if he dropped a class. Ideally he’d be taking an extra class, but that doesn’t sound like a Walky move.
If you hate calculus you can try degrees that don’t require it.
Walky doesn’t seem to grasp that this isn’t a mandatory death March like K12 was, you are paying them to teach you things will enjoy or find useful. In theory. Not everyone sees it that way.
Walky’s problem isn’t that calculus is hard, it’s that he’s never learned how to study (because he’s never had to) and he’s not up to putting the effort in. Sure, he could have dropped calc (and faced the music from his parents), but he was still going to hit this wall at some point in his college years. Dropping this class just puts off the inevitable.
Honestly, I think Sal is the only one who might get Walky out of his slump, not that other people aren’t trying. I mean, even Mike is trying, in his own misanthropic way, and that’s saying something.
Walky you can retake classes, sure that does not always overwrite the first grade but you still have a chance to do better. So here’s what you do call your mom and tell her you’ve already failed a class and missed the drop date. Now continue to attend class and see if you can pick up on at least a little and keep your tests. If you seek out a tutor it will give them an idea of where you are.
But that’s the thing, sure this is the logical solution, but remember Walky’s mom has basically engrained in Walky the psycological damage of being the “good son” “the white sheep” “the perfect intelligent student”. For personal experience parents can overreact if their children tell them about some failures no matter how small. And yeah maybe the mom would be chill about it because Walky hasn’t experience academy failure (but he has been first hand witness of how his parents treat his sister who is the “failure”) before and the unknown reaction of his parents it’s what’s clutching him.
Unknown reaction of his parents is whats clutching him exactly why telling his mom is easier said than done and exactly why I thought he should tell her. Though come to think of it telling his mom could lead to her putting more pressure on every other subject and thus escalate one failing class to one failing semester.
Honour IS one of the biggest fucking scams in history, possibly at second place. It was invented by the few people in charge to make sure the people they abused never stood a chance of getting rid of them.
Bruce Lee once said that honor in fighting was bullshit (essentially) because fighting is a dishonorable practice to begin with. He then proceeded to write a book, listing every different martial arts’ and fighting style’s cheapest but most effective moves. And thus was born modern MMA.
As a martial artist, I agree. Honour is for things like official tournaments, sparring, and exhibitions – stuff where, ideally, nobody is actually going to get hurt. If someone’s actually coming at you? Fuck that noise. Fight for victory, not to play fair.
Wally and Mike are having a genuine conversation where they not only understand each other, they ‘get’ each other. Have Walky and Mike slowly become… actual friends?
Yikes! Two eerily similar posts from 2 different users delivered at the same time? About Hitler and Sugar?!!
Spooky.
I’mma go over here, now, and hide in a corner.
How is it unrelated? If I said that Trump and Mike have the same hairstyle, that’s pretty unrelated (although they kinda do, now that I mention it).
But if you believe “Honor is a scam”, then you’re going to act without honor. Trump is pretty much the platonic ideal of a man with no honor. It seems to be one of his core philosophical principles. So when you act without honor, you act more like Trump.
Do you really not see the difference between ‘giving up is not a moral failing (Walky’s ‘lack of honour’) and ‘actively causing people harm because they didn’t suck my cock is the proper course of action’ (Trump’s ‘lack of honour’)?
I just double checked – Walky started struggling around September 24th and it’s currently around October 18th in universe. So he’s had four bad or missed weekly quizzes. No midterms or major assignments yet.
There’s almost no way he can’t pick this up, is what I’m saying. The problem is the paralyzing fear of failure and not knowing how to study.
On a related note – Good fuckity god I hate the Walkerton parents.
Though, unbeknownst to Walky, Amber went through with rewriting his grades, even though Walky himself ended up rejecting the idea. Assuming nobody catches onto that, Amber bought him some time to pull out of his nose-dive.
Realistically? There should be. In story? If they get caught, they’re not getting kicked out because that removes Amber and Walky from the cast. You don’t fuck around with grades.
Even in the real world, it’s not a given that either one of them would be expelled or even suspended. From IU Bloomington’s section on Academic Misconduct, here are the options available to the Dean of Students, at the Dean’s sole discretion :
– No additional sanction
– Disciplinary probation for a specified period of time
– Suspension or deferred suspension from the university for a specified period of time
– Expulsion from the university
It would probably depend on how contrite they were, and whether Walky threw Amber under the bus. I don’t think he’d do that intentionally, but under stress he could easily say something incriminating, unthinkingly.
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“Honooooooor…” EmberIslandPlayersZuko.gif
Weirdly, I could really hear Dante Basco’s voice for Mike.
Dammit, I can’t unhear it now.
That was immediately the first thing I though about when Mike mentioned honor.
Mike doesn’t need firebending powers, he can burn people with just his words alone.
“You have soiled my honour!”
“You have broken my honor.”
“You have no honour!”
“You spell ‘honour’ like a Brit!”
“Have at you!”
Walky, go to your review session.
Mike, go kick rocks.
Mike is saying exactly what is needed. I really think, in this case, that his studied abrasiveness is an asset rather than a liability.
Nah. Mike can go kick rocks. Just in general.
He probably does
At small children
This.
Nothing Mike says is ever needed. He’s nothing but an asshole who’s clever enough to figure out how to be a bigger asshole to people.
I wish he was a Galasso-style side character, so we could laugh at his goofy cartoony assholeness instead of taking him seriously and recognizing him as a genuinely abusive personality.
looking forwards to the new semester so i can Mike the fuck out of whatever poor sod got assigned to me
I figured “Mike” as a verb involved mothers and nickels.
Or is that what you have planned?
It can have more than one meaning.
Maybe they’ll mike your mom for a nickel
It’s Walkie joke.
. . . You know what? This seems like a apropo time for this question. What is Honor? What do y’all consider honor to mean and do you hold Personal honor and Outward Honor to different internal standards?
Worf thinks Honor is integrity, Most Klingons think its the appearance of integrity
Honor is what the Shredder died without when Master Splinter nunchucked him into a garbage truck, but he survived being crushed long enough to drink ooze and turn into Kevin Nash who dropped a pier on himself.
Honor is the Salamander.
Nice. (but she *hates* that name!)
At least she got them to re-name the baseball team.
GO TREECATS!
Honor is what you’re left with when you realize the Code is bullshit and you’ve got 3 blues bearing down on you and your dragon orb.
Holy crap that took a little while to catch the reference. Thanks for the nostalgia!
Lysa Arryn: You don’t fight with honor!
Bronn, pointing to the Moon Door: No. He did.
And Bronn is a social darwinist, so his opinions on morality are shit.
Honor is to fight for what you believe, respect others (even adversaries), no cheating, don’t give up unless you realize your cause is fake, etc.
Simply, be a respectful person. No need to philosophize too much and say postmodern shit that makes you be unnecessarily skeptical of everything.
“Don’t give up unless you realize your cause is fake”
I like that.
… Baby don’t hurt me, don’t hurt me, no more.
Glad to know it wasn’t just me….
Honor is whatever you’re left with when common decency and respect for other people’s well-being stop getting you mileage in life.
If you’re left with nothing then that’s exactly how much honor you have.
Is what Zuko won’t shut up about.
A philosophy of acting with integrity without regrets.
It’s what parents use to make you behave without having to resort to violence
Honor is just a term people use to make caring about your reputation sound morally admirable.
Honor is The Silencer.
Honor is the excuse you use when you get your ass handed to you by a 12-year old at a video game 15 times in a row.
I reckon honour to be integrity. But mostly the word seems to indicate the deferential respect of others, even or especially obtained by tacit intimidation.
Reputation is what others know about you. Honor is what you know about yourself.
Where is it written
There is any dignity in quittin’?
Oh Yeah? Since When–Robbie Nevil
Meanwhile, Willis reset the controls to the Muzak and it’s playing Barenaked Ladies…
It hasn’t even been twelve weeks yet, has it?
Move-in day was Sunday, August 29th. ‘Today’ is Monday, October 18.
I always thought that turning around and finally trying to make the effort, even if it was midway through the semester and that effort was doomed, would go a long way towards salvaging your reputation among the lecturers and maybe your grades too. But a) I went to a small university where there weren’t that many lecturers; and b) I’m a nerd who already likes math, so grains of salt all around.
I think we finally have proof Mike punches down as much as he punches up since there’s no reason to be an asshole to Walky the way he supposedly is only to “help” people or to hurt jerks.
I don’t see Mike punching down. I see Mike doing what he can to get Walky do take SOME effort to stop his rapid downward slide. Telling him he’s failing at manhood, well, adulthood, by giving up and not even trying any longer is accurate.
You don’t understand. Walky isn’t the ultimate target, Amber is. Mike is merely manipulating Walky to not improve his grades so that Amber will eventually change them. All part of Mike’s master plan to destroy Amber and leave only Amazigirl, just as he acted to create Amazigirl so many years ago.
Of course that doesn’t explain Mike and your mother.
I mean, we’ve seen Mike punching down for the sake of it before. Wally does need someone to slap him in the face and say go the fuck to class though
I’m not sure how this is “punching up” OR “punching down” since that refers to systems of oppression and privilege, and this is about individual behaviors and relationships that have nothing to do with social systems. Even if Mike is a jerk in an attempt to help someone, that’s still not “punching up.”
Given Mike’s first apparent victim is a teacher abusing her position over Amber and other students, I absolutely think that’s the case. Also, Mike is abusing someone in his room.
Well… Mike does not like Walky because Walky is a bad roommate who farts excessively, has bad personal hygiene and as a result smells, and watches cartoons without using headphones. I’m not saying Mike’s behaviour is justified, but he has his reasons for it.
[DisapprovingWorf.gif]
Tell that to Prince Zuko, Walky.
That’s what I keep telling the Pro-Sarufang folks, but they just keep taking off their pauldrons at me.
DON’T MOCK HONOR, WALKY! YOU DON’T KNOW HONOR! TRUE GENTLEMEN AND GENTLELADIES GIVE THEIR ALL FOR THAT FEELING OF PLUS ULTRA!!!!
Also, you can recover but you are a scumbag that feels above admiting that you need help. It’s no wonder your relationships fail faster than Joyce’s faith this semester.
At least Joyce’s faith thing is interesting. She gets a few
perspective changes here and there, realises they’re not so awful, and moves on with her life.
With Walky, it’s always “Buuuuh my graaades are bad, I’m so upset about it!” Fucking study then, dipshit. He’s like everyone in my hometown – constantly whining about a lack of self-improvement but never lifting a single goddamn finger to actually improve. As a character, he’s very true to life. Unfortunately, that part of life is exhausting to deal with.
Were Beard Man and Eyepatch Man ever established before? Don’t remember seeing em before.
No. 1 and No. 2 guard the entrance to the loo.
…I’ll never get hyperlinks right, will I?
It’s titled “secrets revealed” from August 14, 2013.
This, but with greater-than and less-than symbols instead of open and close brackets:
[a href=”http://www.dumbingofage.com”]A link to the DoA homepage[/a]
Becomes this:
A link to the DoA homepage
Ah. Riker and Robert Wagner’s character.
Meh. I’m kinda through with this whole Walky grades thing. Study, don’t study, fail, don’t fail. Your dream job’s working at Mcdonald’s anyway and you don’t need a college degree for that.
That’s what he thought he wanted, but the brush with Dorothy had him reevaluating his priorities and made shit a lot more real. I think that he also really would not want to have that conversation with his parents, especially his mom, too.
Sound reasoning, but his actions don’t seem to reflect that. Dude spent last night running around in his pj’s instead of studying. Amazi-girl even offered to help him, and now he’s moping and acting like his failure is somehow inevitable. You can’t even pity him at this point.
Fear of failure can be pretty damn paralysing.
Amen, brother!
Especially when you’re used to effortless success and have already suffered a significant setback.
You obviously know nothing of what it’s like to live in the shoes of someone like walking.
Not Walky personally no, but I have been to college and gotten bad grades. I imagine it’s one of the more relatable problems in this comic for most people. What I don’t understand is why everyone’s still willing to sympathize with him when he’s had and still has multiple chances. For one it’s only just now midterms. He has plenty of time to pass this class even if he doesn’t ace it I guess that ultimately depends on how his class grades and stuff. I think he still has reasonable odds. Multiple people have offered to help him, including two considerably smart people. He tried tutoring a little but it went south and he kind of just dropped it. I know Jason got fired but there are other tutors at IU I’d hope. I’m not one hundred percent positive on this but I think his grades even got adjusted right? Didn’t Amber or someone do that? Fear of failure is one thing, but I think his ego is what the real issue is.
It’s not just that he’s in college and has bad grades. It’s that he’s been told his whole life that he’s “the Smart One” so every slight failure or relative difficulty is a blow not just to his self-esteem, but to his sense of identity itself. Even a partial failure is still a failure, and he’s not allowed to fail, because “that’s not who he is.” When your entire life has been built on the understanding that you are special and that your value is placed in how easily things come to you, a “C” grade feels like a tazer to the stomach right after downing six Mountain Dews and eight chili dogs. It’s not just a fear of failure, it’s a crippling terror that you have no idea who you are or what you’re supposed to do anymore.
Walky may be the Golden Child, but he was nonetheless the product of an emotionally neglectful childhood. He was raised with absolutely zero preparation for a world where he isn’t able to just skate by at his whatever pace feels comfortable. His parents put him up on a pedestal a mile tall and didn’t give him a parachute. He can’t find a way down that doesn’t result in him dying, and staying up there will just result in him starving to death anyway, so why bother taking action when all results will be the same?
The existential dread of the Special Child is fecking paralyzing.
I think Walky deserves more credit than this. I don’t know the Walkerton parent situation much except they are pretty racist and shitty so I’l take your word on that, but Walky does have agency in his own life. Unless his parents burst into his dorm and start personally tutoring him, his pass or fail is totally on him. I admit though that I’m probably underestimating how big a deal this is to Walky. One bad grade does kinda seem like small potatoes compared to battling suicidal depression, alchoholism, crisis of faith, lgbt discrimination, rape attempts, dissassociative identities ect..what everyone else is going through. So maybe I’m being unfair to him on that.
He has no idea how to study, and is terrified of failure. That means it IS inevitable, for him.
Walky never had to study to get good grades in high school, and he obviously hasn’t gotten used to the fact that he needs to study now that he’s in college. I had the same problem in my freshman year, but I learned some study methods that worked for me before my GPA slipped too much.
Your honor is what you call the guy wearing a wig when in court.
The hair is a scam.
Fail on your back, or on your feet.
He passed algebra, didn’t he? Run the numbers and I bet he really can’t get above a D even if he aces from here on out.
He should cut his losses and focus on his other classes which we have never seen him study for and END THIS PLOT POINT!
Your forgetting that his recorded grades are pretty good up to the point Jason left.
Why wouldn’t he? The midterm hasn’t even come up yet. We’re dealing with bad homework and a few weekly quizzes. No way his grade’s gotten that bad.
Unfortunately, math is a mountain. You can’t summit it until you’ve climbed the base. Walky needs some intensive help to CATCH UP, not just keep going strong from this point forward.
Walky HAD the basics, he’s having a hard time as it’s gone on.
It’s called Withdrawal Walky.
Sure, you’ll have a W on your transcript, but that’s better than failing grade.
There’s a time limit on withdrawals. It’s usually way before midterm.
You can often talk the professor into letting you go with a WP, if you get out before some much later deadline, though.
The real-world IU has an “automatic W” period that ends in late October. Up until then, dropping a class automatically results in a W, no hoop-jumping required. After that date, you can still get a W, but it’s entirely up to the instructor.
In DoA, according to Jason (about two weeks ago), “we’ve passed the deadline for dropping a course without academic penalty.” Does Jason consider a W to be an “academic penalty?” Or, in the floating timeline of DoA, is the auto W deadline earlier?
The question is of course moot, as the narrative arc all but demands that Walky not even consider a W.
Walkys mom: what is a W???
Walky: ummmmmmmmmmmmmm Well… Done?
Interesting to note, it is illegal for the college to give your grades to your parents, even if you’re not yet 18. Once you reach college, your grades are yours to disclose, or bury as deeply as you can dig a hole. This is even true if it’s a third party paying for your tuition, such as your parents.
In high school, if you have not yet turned 18, your parents can request to look at your grades, but once you hit that magical birthday, the teachers and administration ARE NOT PERMITTED to give them access.
Regardless of your age, it IS ILLEGAL for your teachers to give status updates to those who do not have a carefully delineated NEED TO KNOW.
Something tells me that Mike has decided that there is no point doing his usual thing when his target has already given up!
One can always count on Mike to say the right thing.
The rude thing, maybe.
I can’t help feeling that everyone is missing the changed grades which implies, to me at least, that if Walky actually bothered to put in some effort at this point he’d breeze through. Instead it appears that his math tutor is going to be completely stumped as to why his star pupil suddenly crashed and burned. But hey, what do I know?
Amber just did enough to get him off probation. He’s probably not a star pupil. And given his lack of motivation, he actually might have gotten himself on probation again.
Besides that, I don’t think Walky knows that Amber changed his grades in the first place. She meant well, but all she did was to, at best, delay the inevitable and, at worst, risk them both getting kicked out of college.
Hey there everyone, I dunno if this has happened to anyone else? Any comment I make on my PC has been marked as “awaiting moderation” for a few months now.
Vaguely remember someone else making a comment about the same a few years ago and Willis saying he’d look into it?
Honestly I dunno if it’s my computer being stuck on a blacklist by accident or if I got banned
I assume you’ve tried posting from different browsers on your PC?
I don’t know if this is related to your problem, but here’s something that happened to me.
For a while, my main browser on my main computer would not store my name/email on the DoA comment page, so I would just autocomplete them before posting. One day I finger-slipped and the email was right but the name wasn’t, and that went into the “awaiting moderation” queue.
I’m starting to wonder whether walky will actually show up for his midterm.
Am I missing something… Aren’t midterms in the MIDDLE of a term? How can he already know his final grade when he can still at least make a C+ (if he gets over himself).
A C+ is typically at least 77%. He hasn’t been doing his assignments for some time now.
Marsh, off topic question. Based on the season so far, whose your pick for Battlebots?
Hard to say. Last season I was a Huge fan right up until Icewave chewed its wheels off.
I think it’s between Hydra and Bite Force. I think Hydra’s flipper is potentially the most destructive weapon in the box (apart from Tombstone), but their driving needs to improve for them to deploy it effectively. Meanwhile, Bite Force wins the best engineered/best driven combo.
All this is subject to the Tombstone effect, of course. Any time Tombstone gets in the box, it has a 75% chance of destroying its opponent, but a 25% chance of destroying itself. Tombstone getting to the finals is a long shot, but preventing someone else from getting there is a certainty.
I do hope that Mammoth gets some sort of award for innovative design. If they can work out their reliability issues, they could go a lot farther next season.
I’m kind of liking DeathRoll this year with Blacksmith as a backup. I root for Duck! But they are going nowhere. Bite Force is a strong contender, but to me Hydra’s flipper isn’t all that impressive. They have to be lucky to make it count against a better built robot. And Tombstone is too erratic to go the distance, though I think it has before. My 2 cents.
I don’t know why Death Roll wasn’t in my thinking: at three KOs and one UD, they’re the only 4-0 team at the moment (though there are lots of 3-0 teams). You may be right on this.
Blacksmith is fun to watch, but hammer-type weapons have a really poor record — not enough kinetic energy, too easy to defend against with top armor. (And don’t get me started on flame weapons — I can’t remember a match where a flame weapon did anything except look awesome.)
Duck! is an amazing piece of engineering, but its defensive strategy means it relies on having the right opponent. Good for getting into the brackets, not so good for advancing.
The opposite strategy — all offense — has the same effect on Tombstone. Sheer destructiveness is good for getting it into the brackets, but its tendency to destroy itself makes it hard for Tombstone to get to the final — though it did win two seasons ago. But there are so many more top-notch competitors this season than there were then.
Hydra – you say “luck,” I say “good driving and timing.” This is always the weak spot for flippers — if you get the perfect shot, BOOM!, otherwise, nothing. Right now, they are under-performing on that score, which is why I’m giving them my underdog bet and not a top bet.
I also have soft spots for Witch Doctor, currently 3-0, and Minotaur, which is not going to make the brackets but man did they put their hearts into it.
Overall, there’s been a marked ramp-up in the quality of competition this season. But it seems to have reached a point where offensive capability is increasing faster than survivability — almost half the battles are won by KO, most of the rest by unanimous decision.
So I’m guessing it’s too late for Walky to drop the course then?
So, if Walky was taking 12 credit hours, the bare minimum for full-time status, then he’d lose financial aid benefits if he dropped a class. Ideally he’d be taking an extra class, but that doesn’t sound like a Walky move.
If you hate calculus you can try degrees that don’t require it.
Walky doesn’t seem to grasp that this isn’t a mandatory death March like K12 was, you are paying them to teach you things will enjoy or find useful. In theory. Not everyone sees it that way.
Walky isn’t paying them, though. His parents are – and they very much believe that they call the tune.
Walky’s problem isn’t that calculus is hard, it’s that he’s never learned how to study (because he’s never had to) and he’s not up to putting the effort in. Sure, he could have dropped calc (and faced the music from his parents), but he was still going to hit this wall at some point in his college years. Dropping this class just puts off the inevitable.
I really wish it wasn’t math he had a hard time with – or at least not ONLY math. For exactly this reason.
Or a D, Walky.
D is for Diploma.
Most schools don’t give credit for Ds as passing anymore.
Honestly, I think Sal is the only one who might get Walky out of his slump, not that other people aren’t trying. I mean, even Mike is trying, in his own misanthropic way, and that’s saying something.
We haven’t seen Mike for about nine months. Clearly, he’s been pregnant. Congratulations to Mike. Maybe parenthood will make him less of an asshole.
Why did this make me think of that Toby Fox Homestuck “The Baby Is You” song? Why did my brain need to remind me of that eldritch horror?
Walky you can retake classes, sure that does not always overwrite the first grade but you still have a chance to do better. So here’s what you do call your mom and tell her you’ve already failed a class and missed the drop date. Now continue to attend class and see if you can pick up on at least a little and keep your tests. If you seek out a tutor it will give them an idea of where you are.
But that’s the thing, sure this is the logical solution, but remember Walky’s mom has basically engrained in Walky the psycological damage of being the “good son” “the white sheep” “the perfect intelligent student”. For personal experience parents can overreact if their children tell them about some failures no matter how small. And yeah maybe the mom would be chill about it because Walky hasn’t experience academy failure (but he has been first hand witness of how his parents treat his sister who is the “failure”) before and the unknown reaction of his parents it’s what’s clutching him.
Unknown reaction of his parents is whats clutching him exactly why telling his mom is easier said than done and exactly why I thought he should tell her. Though come to think of it telling his mom could lead to her putting more pressure on every other subject and thus escalate one failing class to one failing semester.
Honour ? Honour killed billions of people but never saved anyone. [/5th élement]
I dont know why, but I always imagine Mike has a raspy voice like a Male version of Thelma and Selma
Honour IS one of the biggest fucking scams in history, possibly at second place. It was invented by the few people in charge to make sure the people they abused never stood a chance of getting rid of them.
Karma would be the first, I assume?
Bruce Lee once said that honor in fighting was bullshit (essentially) because fighting is a dishonorable practice to begin with. He then proceeded to write a book, listing every different martial arts’ and fighting style’s cheapest but most effective moves. And thus was born modern MMA.
As a martial artist, I agree. Honour is for things like official tournaments, sparring, and exhibitions – stuff where, ideally, nobody is actually going to get hurt. If someone’s actually coming at you? Fuck that noise. Fight for victory, not to play fair.
Wally and Mike are having a genuine conversation where they not only understand each other, they ‘get’ each other. Have Walky and Mike slowly become… actual friends?
You know who else thinks Honor is a scam? Trump. So, if you want to be more like Trump, knock yourself out.
Hitler ate sugar
You know who else ate sugar? Hitler.
Yikes! Two eerily similar posts from 2 different users delivered at the same time? About Hitler and Sugar?!!
Spooky.
I’mma go over here, now, and hide in a corner.
‘Hitler liked sugar’ is a standard response to attempts to draw false equivalencies between two people who happen to share an unrelated trait.
How is it unrelated? If I said that Trump and Mike have the same hairstyle, that’s pretty unrelated (although they kinda do, now that I mention it).
But if you believe “Honor is a scam”, then you’re going to act without honor. Trump is pretty much the platonic ideal of a man with no honor. It seems to be one of his core philosophical principles. So when you act without honor, you act more like Trump.
Do you really not see the difference between ‘giving up is not a moral failing (Walky’s ‘lack of honour’) and ‘actively causing people harm because they didn’t suck my cock is the proper course of action’ (Trump’s ‘lack of honour’)?
Poor little mouse boy
I just double checked – Walky started struggling around September 24th and it’s currently around October 18th in universe. So he’s had four bad or missed weekly quizzes. No midterms or major assignments yet.
There’s almost no way he can’t pick this up, is what I’m saying. The problem is the paralyzing fear of failure and not knowing how to study.
On a related note – Good fuckity god I hate the Walkerton parents.
Though, unbeknownst to Walky, Amber went through with rewriting his grades, even though Walky himself ended up rejecting the idea. Assuming nobody catches onto that, Amber bought him some time to pull out of his nose-dive.
“Assuming nobody catches on” is the problem though. If he gets caught, he’s getting kicked out of school.
Is there really a chance of that happening though?
Realistically? There should be. In story? If they get caught, they’re not getting kicked out because that removes Amber and Walky from the cast. You don’t fuck around with grades.
Even in the real world, it’s not a given that either one of them would be expelled or even suspended. From IU Bloomington’s section on Academic Misconduct, here are the options available to the Dean of Students, at the Dean’s sole discretion :
– No additional sanction
– Disciplinary probation for a specified period of time
– Suspension or deferred suspension from the university for a specified period of time
– Expulsion from the university
It would probably depend on how contrite they were, and whether Walky threw Amber under the bus. I don’t think he’d do that intentionally, but under stress he could easily say something incriminating, unthinkingly.
Y’know, with such an ever-expanding ensemble cast, we don’t get to see everyone, not even the major players all that often, it seems.
I sometimes get this whole “Out of Sight, Out of Mind” thing going with some of our faves.
Somehow, Some WAY, I keep forgetting that Mike is MIKE until he’s on-panel and talking.
And then he immediately asserts his Mike-ness to remind everyone that he’s still this comic’s resident asshole