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Subdued

by David M Willis on December 3, 2021 at 12:01 am
  • 02 – I'll Leave You A Phantom
└ Tags: cinnamon toast crunch, dina, joe, liz, walky

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  1. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    December 3, 2021 at 12:05 am | #

    [AmericanChopperMemePanel5.jpg] WHAT DID I JUST SAY

    • Ana Chronistic
      Ana Chronistic
      December 3, 2021 at 12:05 am | #

      SIX, holy dang D=

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        December 3, 2021 at 2:34 am | #

        Happy birthday to the twins!

  2. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    December 3, 2021 at 12:05 am | #

    Yes, do it. Otherwise, soggy may rule

    • Rose by Any Other Name
      Rose by Any Other Name
      December 3, 2021 at 12:38 am | #

      NO!
      **hits deck**

  3. Sirksome
    Sirksome
    December 3, 2021 at 12:06 am | #

    I still don’t believe Liz actually had a ride. She’s walking back to Ball State.

    • RassilonTDavros
      RassilonTDavros
      December 3, 2021 at 12:07 am | #

      She’s trying to escape the range of Dina’s power

    • Thag Simmons
      Thag Simmons
      December 3, 2021 at 12:07 am | #

      Can’t be that far a walk anyways.

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        December 3, 2021 at 2:37 am | #

        Only about 110 miles. That’s 10 miles shorter than the car route!

  4. Josh Spicer
    Josh Spicer
    December 3, 2021 at 12:06 am | #

    Touching the secondary sexual characteristics?

    The hell is that a metaphor for?

    • Delicious Taffy
      Delicious Taffy
      December 3, 2021 at 12:07 am | #

      Titties

      • Sirksome
        Sirksome
        December 3, 2021 at 12:08 am | #

        This topic is pretty debatable but for my two cents I do think Joe got to second base. Liz’s state of undress implies there was at least a little bit of action before she got nervous.

      • Josh Spicer
        Josh Spicer
        December 3, 2021 at 12:09 am | #

        But what makes ’em secondary sexual characteristics?

        • Slartibeast Button, BIA
          Slartibeast Button, BIA
          December 3, 2021 at 12:11 am | #

          These characteristics are particularly evident in the sexually dimorphic phenotypic traits that distinguish the sexes of a species,[3] but unlike the sex organs (primary sex characteristics), are not directly part of the reproductive system.

          […]

          In humans, visible secondary sex characteristics include pubic hair, enlarged breasts and widened hips of females, and facial hair and Adam’s apples on males.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secondary_sex_characteristic

          • Josh Spicer
            Josh Spicer
            December 3, 2021 at 12:12 am | #

            Oh it’s legitimately a question, not her saying something to dodge the obvious question.

            *the more you know rainbow*

          • Regalli
            Regalli
            December 3, 2021 at 12:13 am | #

            *Cues up the showtunes* Tits and aa~ass!

          • Sambo
            Sambo
            December 3, 2021 at 12:14 am | #

            Today I learned that “secondary sexual characteristics” is a scientific term

            • Thag Simmons
              Thag Simmons
              December 3, 2021 at 12:17 am | #

              Kind of a necessary thing to have, since sexual dimorphism can vary pretty wildly across species.

          • Undrave
            Undrave
            December 3, 2021 at 1:43 am | #

            Like the lipstick on female Wobuffets!

          • Matthew E Davis
            Matthew E Davis
            December 3, 2021 at 3:53 am | #

            Wait, why is pubic hair on women a secondary sex characteristic, but not on men?

            • Kavonde
              Kavonde
              December 3, 2021 at 4:15 am | #

              I’m pretty sure it’s a secondary characteristic for humans in general.

              • thejeff
                thejeff
                December 3, 2021 at 6:24 am | #

                Yeah, that’s badly phrased in the wiki article. It’s a broad term and it covers both characteristics that distinguish between the sexes and those that develop with puberty.

            • StClair
              StClair
              December 3, 2021 at 3:23 pm | #

              The Oxford Comma strikes again!

        • Thag Simmons
          Thag Simmons
          December 3, 2021 at 12:11 am | #

          Secondary sexual characteristics are sexually dimorphic traits that are not primary sexual characteristics (which are the reproductive bits)

          It’s different depending on what species you’re looking at. For example, the mane of a male lion is a secondary sexual characteristic.

        • brionl
          brionl
          December 3, 2021 at 12:13 am | #

          Puberty makes them SSCs.

        • Skater Girl
          Skater Girl
          December 3, 2021 at 12:15 am | #

          In the terminology of biological science, secondary sex characteristics are those that develop after/during puberty. It’s not a metaphor, Dina is being clinical and using formal language as she usually does.

          • The Wellerman
            The Wellerman
            December 3, 2021 at 12:17 am | #

            Ding ding ding!

    • StClair
      StClair
      December 3, 2021 at 12:07 am | #

      “Did you touch her chest”

      • Deanatay
        Deanatay
        December 3, 2021 at 9:35 am | #

        *Erin Brockovitch voice* They’re called boobs, Ed.

    • Agentomega
      Agentomega
      December 3, 2021 at 12:09 am | #

      It’s not a metaphor at all, Dina’s guessing Joe touched Liz’s chest.

    • Yotomoe
      Yotomoe
      December 3, 2021 at 12:11 am | #

      Obviously the sexiest part of a woman is her mind. So y’know the secondary part has to be her chest. Y’know.

      The Heart.

      • The Wellerman
        The Wellerman
        December 3, 2021 at 12:15 am | #

        The mind… 😊

        You said it, not me.

    • Thag Simmons
      Thag Simmons
      December 3, 2021 at 12:11 am | #

      Euphemisms aren’t metaphors.

      • Josh Spicer
        Josh Spicer
        December 3, 2021 at 12:12 am | #

        Yes, it turns out I was just ignorant.

      • Agemegos
        Agemegos
        December 3, 2021 at 12:22 am | #

        And technicalisms aren’t euphemisms.

        • Thag Simmons
          Thag Simmons
          December 3, 2021 at 12:23 am | #

          There is some overlap there! But technicalism seems more accurate, and I probably would have used it if I knew/remembered it

          • Agemegos
            Agemegos
            December 3, 2021 at 12:52 am | #

            Yes. The really funny thing is that most of the English and ISV technicalisms for human’s naughty bits aren’t actually the basic Latin words for those things, they are mealy-mouthed Latin euphemisms.

            There is an interesting article in Wikipedia about the actual (i.e. obscene) Latin words for the assorted unmentionable bits and acts.

            Read, mark, learn, and inwardly digest.

            • Decidedly Orthogonal
              Decidedly Orthogonal
              December 3, 2021 at 9:23 am | #

              COOL! Thanks mate. TI(shall)L’d.

    • Yotomoe
      Yotomoe
      December 3, 2021 at 12:12 am | #

      “Did you not grope those honkers, as the vernacular usually goes?”

      • Josh Spicer
        Josh Spicer
        December 3, 2021 at 12:13 am | #

        Yoto you continue to entertain me on the regular.

        • Yotomoe
          Yotomoe
          December 3, 2021 at 12:18 am | #

          “You in fact did not, squeeze those melons, smush those sweater puppies, Ponder those orbs, grab her chesticles, or descend down into marshmallow hell?”

          I’m gonna start headcannoning that Dina’s just a gal who finds boobs super neat.

          • The Wellerman
            The Wellerman
            December 3, 2021 at 12:23 am | #

            Why do they call it “marshmallow hell”?

          • Robbie
            Robbie
            December 3, 2021 at 12:25 am | #

            Wait is ponder the orbs a euphemism people actually use? Asking for an autistic ace … Who is me.

            • The Wellerman
              The Wellerman
              December 3, 2021 at 12:28 am | #

              Well a quick search says it’s a meme that’s like a day old, so no not a lot of people use it. I think.

              • Robbie
                Robbie
                December 3, 2021 at 12:29 am | #

                I’ve definitely seen the meme about wizards and orbs but I never thought it had anything to do with boobs.

            • Yotomoe
              Yotomoe
              December 3, 2021 at 12:35 am | #

              I literally just made it up.

              • The Wellerman
                The Wellerman
                December 3, 2021 at 12:36 am | #

                I still can’t get wrap my marshmallow around the head thing.
                I mean my head around the marshmallow thing.

                Wasn’t “Marshmallow” the name of a stripper from Bob’s Burgers?

                • Yotomoe
                  Yotomoe
                  December 3, 2021 at 12:43 am | #

                  Marshmallow hell is an anime term usually referring to when a characters has their head fully immersed in someone’s breasts. Marshmallow because of the softness of boobs, and Hell because they probably can’t breathe in there.

                  Man I wanna go to marshmallow hell.

                • The Wellerman
                  The Wellerman
                  December 3, 2021 at 12:51 am | #

                  Hey if that’s what you call marshmallow hell, than what do you call a smore? 😋 😝

                • ValdVin
                  ValdVin
                  December 3, 2021 at 8:13 am | #

                  Marshmallow, in the Burgerverse, is not an exotic dancer , but I think a courtesan (also, correct as necessary) (using certain words from my work computer).

                  “Why do they call you Marshmallow?”
                  “Because if I see a sweet potato pie, I am all over it!”

              • Robbie
                Robbie
                December 3, 2021 at 12:38 am | #

                I’m relieved I haven’t been missing the point of all the weird orb pondering tweets all week lol

                • The Wellerman
                  The Wellerman
                  December 3, 2021 at 12:47 am | #

                  I totally feel you on that one bruh, only for Willis’s bonus comics. I’m actually not that much into memes.

          • Matthew E Davis
            Matthew E Davis
            December 3, 2021 at 3:55 am | #

            Well, canon seems to be that she and Becky haven’t done anything with the primary sex charactistics, so there has to be _something_ that attracts her physically, I’d think.

            • eh, whatever
              eh, whatever
              December 3, 2021 at 7:17 am | #

              No, why? Dina is in love. That doesn’t require any sexual attraction.

              • StClair
                StClair
                December 3, 2021 at 3:25 pm | #

                Now try explaining that to Becky.

          • RedCat
            RedCat
            December 5, 2021 at 3:38 am | #

            Doesn’t everyone like boobs?

    • Alanari
      Alanari
      December 3, 2021 at 12:14 am | #

      It’s not a metaphor. Secondary sexual characteristics are those things that evolve during puberty. Like, stuff that is not exactly necessary for reproduction but makes you look male or female. In this setting, her breast and maybe her behind.

    • The Wellerman
      The Wellerman
      December 3, 2021 at 12:21 am | #

      Honestly I am intrigued on how many of you didn’t know what “secondary sex characteristics” mean. 😲

      • Agemegos
        Agemegos
        December 3, 2021 at 12:23 am | #

        Well, a lot of people forget what they learn in school anyway, but I don’t think biology is often well taught in American schools.

      • Thag Simmons
        Thag Simmons
        December 3, 2021 at 12:40 am | #

        I don’t think it’s that commonly known? I certainly wouldn’t have known it if I didn’t have an interest in natural history and biology.

        • The Wellerman
          The Wellerman
          December 3, 2021 at 12:55 am | #

          As for those subjects, would you care to share some of your favorite sources?

          I mean SAUCES? 😋

        • eh, whatever
          eh, whatever
          December 3, 2021 at 7:18 am | #

          I learned it in school, it was in the books and everything. But that wasn’t in the US.

          • Azhrei Vep
            Azhrei Vep
            December 3, 2021 at 7:59 am | #

            I also learned it in school. In elementary school. It was in the textbooks and everything. In the US. In the southern US, no less. And we suck at educating kids down here.

            • Opus the Poet
              Opus the Poet
              December 3, 2021 at 10:31 pm | #

              The only Sex Ed I had was in DoD schools outside of the US. During the 1970s so it was scientific about the process of pregnancy, and silent on the bits about relationships. And naturally LGBTQ did not exist in that education.

          • milu
            milu
            December 3, 2021 at 8:04 am | #

            same. i live in France. i wouldn’t say biology was “well taught” to me, but i def learned about puberty and reproduction fairly early on (i want to say it in 7-8th grade. i also remember having sex ed one time in 8th grade, in a catholic school no less, and while i forget the detail i do remember we were explained how to put on a condom, so while that’s a low bar, it still beats pro-life, abstinence-only “””sex ed””” as i understand many american kids are still subjected to.)

            • milu
              milu
              December 3, 2021 at 8:23 am | #

              hah, actually now i remember our biology teacher showing us a graphic video of a person giving birth in…was it 6th grade? maybe 7th. we were all pretty yucked out and there were rumours of kids fainting in other classes (probably not true, but it was pretty intense). i liked that teacher, she was hard-boiled. i guess she was like, “miracle of life my ass, this is what we’re talking about, kids, okay? now, this is what a condom looks like…”

            • Tim
              Tim
              December 4, 2021 at 4:29 am | #

              I went to Catholic school in Missouri. We had a decent sex ed. Probably not the best, and not the worst. Condoms were explained to us, I don’t recall if they were shown to us. Though they did emphasize the failure rates of different forms of birth control. In reality my Catholic education was fairly liberal. The hard core Catholics joined the Pro-Life Club.

        • Yumi
          Yumi
          December 3, 2021 at 4:06 pm | #

          It seems like a basic thing to know to me, but everyone has their gaps in knowledge.

      • StClair
        StClair
        December 3, 2021 at 3:26 pm | #

        not so much “intrigued” as “surprised and dismayed”. but I guess I shouldn’t be, with education being what it is.

  5. Mr. Random
    Mr. Random
    December 3, 2021 at 12:06 am | #

    That’s a good question.

    How long after you’re told to hold something do you just…. own it?

    • Yotomoe
      Yotomoe
      December 3, 2021 at 12:14 am | #

      A friend loaned me pokemon battle revolution in high school. I offered it back to him and he said I could keep it for as long as I kept playing it. It’s like 13 years later now and honestly even if I wanted to give it back I don’t know where he lives. And I doubt he’d want a WII game in the year of our lord 2021. So yeah, I own it now.

      • Decidedly Orthogonal
        Decidedly Orthogonal
        December 3, 2021 at 9:18 am | #

        But are you still playing it?

        • Yotomoe
          Yotomoe
          December 3, 2021 at 6:56 pm | #

          I am not :c.

    • Mano308gts
      Mano308gts
      December 3, 2021 at 12:25 am | #

      According to Skyrim rules, and the random encounter where a suspicious person approaches and demands you hold onto an item for him? Forever. You never get to own an item lent/handed to you, and if you don’t or can’t return it to its rightful owner on demand, you will face an immediate attack….

      • Thag Simmons
        Thag Simmons
        December 3, 2021 at 12:43 am | #

        According to Skyrim rules nobody will notice if you drive an arrow into someone’s skull so long as you bend your knees. Also if you a fine the price of a new horse, this clears you of all legal consequences for murder.

        I assume this is all frighteningly realistic

    • Clif
      Clif
      December 3, 2021 at 3:47 am | #

      Technically, eating something *is* holding on to it.

      • Bathymetheus
        Bathymetheus
        December 3, 2021 at 5:44 pm | #

        Are you familiar with the expression “used food”?

        My point being that you don’t hold on to it for very long, with the arguable exception of whatever nutrients you are able to absorb from it (even those go eventually).

  6. The Wellerman
    The Wellerman
    December 3, 2021 at 12:08 am | #

    Eh, “social cues” like that are a confusing-ass guessing game anyway.

    Also Willis, tell your kids I said Happy Birthday! 🎂

  7. Nick Piers
    Nick Piers
    December 3, 2021 at 12:08 am | #

    Soggy Cinnamon Toast Crunch?

    SOGGY. CINNAMON. TOAST. CRUNCH?

    No. NO. Willis, you’ve gone too far. You’ve put your characters through every horrible ordeal known to man, but I will not stand by soggy Cinnamon Toast Crunch. Damn you, Willis. What were you thinking, putting Walky through such a horrible, traumatizing nightmare?

    Unsubscribed.

    • John Campbell
      John Campbell
      December 3, 2021 at 12:11 am | #

      Soggies may rule.

      • Stephen Bierce
        Stephen Bierce
        December 3, 2021 at 12:13 am | #

        *drops eyeglasses momentarily*
        It’s CRUNCH time!

      • Nick Piers
        Nick Piers
        December 3, 2021 at 12:14 am | #

        Do you want Soggies? BECAUSE THIS IS HOW YOU GET SOGGIES.

        • Plain Marie
          Plain Marie
          December 3, 2021 at 6:10 am | #

          Noooo! Not the soggies!
          (Autocorrect first typed piggies. Then doggies. Autocorrect doesn’t do cereal.)

    • Jeff K!
      Jeff K!
      December 3, 2021 at 12:14 am | #

      If you put your cereal in a liquid, then you clearly want it to absorb some of the liquid; otherwise WHY are you doing it?!?

      • Ana Chronistic
        Ana Chronistic
        December 3, 2021 at 12:25 am | #

        so it isn’t just dry-ass cereal

        unless you warm it up first

      • The Wellerman
        The Wellerman
        December 3, 2021 at 12:32 am | #

        sometimes I just have a bowl of dry cereal with a cup of milk to drink on the side, the freak I am

        • Needfuldoer
          Needfuldoer
          December 3, 2021 at 5:21 pm | #

          This is the way.

      • Jamie
        Jamie
        December 3, 2021 at 12:35 am | #

        So you can have crunchy texture with your cold soup.

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        December 3, 2021 at 7:51 am | #

        Some of the liquid certainly. Too much though makes it gross.

    • Decidedly Orthogonal
      Decidedly Orthogonal
      December 3, 2021 at 9:16 am | #

      Wait, before you go… Was she a tad [shoe shine | ethnically of decent from Poland]? The cover is rather obtuse to my query.

  8. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    December 3, 2021 at 12:09 am | #

    To be fiar, I would be super sad about not getting to touch Liz’s secondary sexual characteristics. Not so much her primary ones but those secondary ones, hooboy.

    • Rose by Any Other Name
      Rose by Any Other Name
      December 3, 2021 at 12:44 am | #

      … if one knows the technique, has the right partner, and is very patient, there are some very interesting things that can be done while only touching secondary sexual characteristics.

      • Yotomoe
        Yotomoe
        December 3, 2021 at 12:49 am | #

        I guess I’ll have to start my training arc.

      • The Wellerman
        The Wellerman
        December 3, 2021 at 12:52 am | #

        Does that include the notion that some can orgasm just from nipple play? Is that true at all?

        • Yotomoe
          Yotomoe
          December 3, 2021 at 12:56 am | #

          If it’s true I really want to try it! I just really like boobs guys

        • Whirlwitch
          Whirlwitch
          December 3, 2021 at 2:00 am | #

          It’s true. Applies to a non-zero number of persons.

          • Roborat
            Roborat
            December 3, 2021 at 3:25 pm | #

            Yes, I can confirm it is true. Not very common however.

        • Opus the Poet
          Opus the Poet
          December 3, 2021 at 10:34 pm | #

          Some women orgasm during nursing, so yeah.

  9. Katerly
    Katerly
    December 3, 2021 at 12:11 am | #

    Walkys a better person than me cause the second a conversation happened I would have put the bowl down near them and went about my own business.
    I agreed to hold a cereal bowl for some shenanigans, NOT a whole emotional growth moment.

    • Katerly
      Katerly
      December 3, 2021 at 12:11 am | #

      OK the algorithm has been on point with the random avatars lately!

  10. Stephen Bierce
    Stephen Bierce
    December 3, 2021 at 12:12 am | #

    Hurray for Chase and Zach! May there be abundant balloons, macaroons, trained baboons, and Looney Tunes for you.

    • Regalli
      Regalli
      December 3, 2021 at 12:19 am | #

      Barring that, may there be robots!

      … Okay, they’re Williskin, obviously there will be robots.

  11. brionl
    brionl
    December 3, 2021 at 12:12 am | #

    Happy Birthday Kids!
    Here’s a joke about boobies! (for when you’re older)

    • Agemegos
      Agemegos
      December 3, 2021 at 12:33 am | #

      Here’s another joke about boobies.

      • Keulen
        Keulen
        December 3, 2021 at 8:05 am | #

        Those are a nice pair of boobies.

        • milu
          milu
          December 3, 2021 at 8:27 am | #

          – Come touch my boobies! They don’t bite!

          – 9_9

  12. Regalli
    Regalli
    December 3, 2021 at 12:15 am | #

    So… spinoff of Liz realizing oh holy shit she is DEFINITELY bisexual when?

    • The Wellerman
      The Wellerman
      December 3, 2021 at 12:16 am | #

      Would you settle for some pixel art?

      • Regalli
        Regalli
        December 3, 2021 at 6:57 pm | #

        I won’t turn it down.

  13. PASchaefer
    PASchaefer
    December 3, 2021 at 12:15 am | #

    Happy kids birthday!

  14. LynziGraye
    LynziGraye
    December 3, 2021 at 12:20 am | #

    I wish a very happy birthday to the Willis/Sunshine spawn, and a pleasant and peaceful day to their parents!

  15. TheKelliestKelly
    TheKelliestKelly
    December 3, 2021 at 12:20 am | #

    Congrats on being a parent to 6 year olds!

  16. BBCC
    BBCC
    December 3, 2021 at 12:22 am | #

    Poor Walky. Soggy cereal is the worst.

    That is the real point of this strip right?

    And happy birthday to your boys, Willis and Maggie! I hope all goes well.

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      December 3, 2021 at 12:34 am | #

      Jesus, I’ve been reading DOA for six years huh? I only caught up a little before the mini Willises joined the scene.

  17. Kathleen
    Kathleen
    December 3, 2021 at 12:23 am | #

    are you kidding me? I could have sworn your kids were born last year, two years ago tops haha

    • Clif
      Clif
      December 3, 2021 at 3:51 am | #

      I would have sworn it was sometime last semester.

    • Plain Marie
      Plain Marie
      December 3, 2021 at 6:08 am | #

      I know, right? In my mind they were just crawling around.
      I started reading DOA when I was “home with the baby,” and now my kid has gotten halfway through middle school. Oy. THAT went by fast.

      Willis, Happy Birthing Day to your wife!

  18. Raja
    Raja
    December 3, 2021 at 12:24 am | #

    now I want cinnamon toast crunch

    All I have is Apple jacks…

    • The Wellerman
      The Wellerman
      December 3, 2021 at 12:29 am | #

      Am I a traitor if I like Apple Jacks better than Cinnamon Toast Crunch?

      • Rose by Any Other Name
        Rose by Any Other Name
        December 3, 2021 at 12:46 am | #

        I don’t see why. Applejacks are just Fruit Loops with cinnamon on them, so…

      • Raja
        Raja
        December 3, 2021 at 1:12 am | #

        Apple Jacks are delicious! Just hit different than cinnamon toast crunch

    • Keulen
      Keulen
      December 3, 2021 at 8:06 am | #

      I think I’d prefer the Apple Jacks.

    • StClair
      StClair
      December 3, 2021 at 3:30 pm | #

      I remember cereal. It was an early casualty when I became a grown-up; not because I started eating healthier or anything, but because I couldn’t be arsed to make breakfast, or get up early enough to make and eat it.

      • LiterallyJustSomeGuy
        LiterallyJustSomeGuy
        December 3, 2021 at 4:56 pm | #

        When I became a grown-up, caring about what time of day I ate certain foods plummeted, and it wasn’t very high to begin with.

        • Raja
          Raja
          December 4, 2021 at 12:27 am | #

          yeah cereal for dinner is a common meal for me

          I am an adult and no one can stop me

  19. Norah
    Norah
    December 3, 2021 at 12:26 am | #

    Happy Birthday Willis Twins!

  20. FaerwenOfValenwood
    FaerwenOfValenwood
    December 3, 2021 at 12:31 am | #

    This burgeoning Joe/Dina friendship RULES.

    • Opus the Poet
      Opus the Poet
      December 3, 2021 at 10:37 pm | #

      Thumbs up emoji.

  21. Grimey
    Grimey
    December 3, 2021 at 12:33 am | #

    So is Liz…Mad now or…

    • Thag Simmons
      Thag Simmons
      December 3, 2021 at 12:44 am | #

      I’m going to say “confused”

    • Segnosaur
      Segnosaur
      December 3, 2021 at 1:25 am | #

      I do not know why she would be mad.

      Granted she was no longer smiling when she left. Maybe the dina description of sex made her uncomfortable. Or maybe she had some jealousy over joes reaction to dina. (She doesn’t want sex herself but she probably would have had an ego boost if she excited joe THAT much.)

      • Edwin I Callahan
        Edwin I Callahan
        December 3, 2021 at 7:34 am | #

        I think Liz is uncomfortable with everything that happened from the instant Sarah opened her dorm room door.

  22. ProjectXa3
    ProjectXa3
    December 3, 2021 at 12:44 am | #

    yaay happy your kids’s birtyday

    • woobie
      woobie
      December 3, 2021 at 1:17 am | #

      Yes!
      I remember that comic with the belly button indicator
      DING
      Baby’s done!

      • Opus the Poet
        Opus the Poet
        December 3, 2021 at 10:38 pm | #

        The “It’s Walky!” spinoff “It’s Pregnancy!”

  23. Drakkin the Alien
    Drakkin the Alien
    December 3, 2021 at 12:50 am | #

    “s..stop breathing on my ear…”
    “Yield first”
    “I’m not seduct…s…subducted…subdued yet!”
    “Your body does not lie…”

  24. RacingTurtle
    RacingTurtle
    December 3, 2021 at 1:27 am | #

    Dina is very strong

  25. ADLegend21
    ADLegend21
    December 3, 2021 at 1:47 am | #

    Walky Witnessing that is perfect imo. Hopefully we get to Joe’s self loathing before 2024 IRL.

    • Edwin I Callahan
      Edwin I Callahan
      December 3, 2021 at 7:39 am | #

      That might be more like 2034, you know around the spring mid-terms.

  26. Steelbright
    Steelbright
    December 3, 2021 at 2:18 am | #

    please please PLEASE have this turn into an actual conversation about Joe’s feelings, that would be the best way this could go

  27. NinjaNick
    NinjaNick
    December 3, 2021 at 3:00 am | #

    I wonder which will happen first: Walky eating said cereal with traces of Dina’s saliva or Dina getting off Joe?

    • Agemegos
      Agemegos
      December 3, 2021 at 3:48 am | #

      It definitely won’t be Dina getting off on Joe.

      • Eldritchy
        Eldritchy
        December 3, 2021 at 4:27 am | #

        I dunno, put him in a dino pajamas and she might just be tempted.

    • Keulen
      Keulen
      December 3, 2021 at 8:07 am | #

      My bet is on Walky eating the cereal.

      • Vulcanodon
        Vulcanodon
        December 3, 2021 at 8:22 am | #

        Yeah she isn’t getting that back

        • Decidedly Orthogonal
          Decidedly Orthogonal
          December 3, 2021 at 9:10 am | #

          I want _my_ cereal, but the house is cold and it’s do far away.

  28. Amós Batista
    Amós Batista
    December 3, 2021 at 3:46 am | #

    time flies, the children is already six?
    Congratulations for them

  29. Sombrero
    Sombrero
    December 3, 2021 at 4:37 am | #

    Happy birthday kids!! I remember when my youngest one was six Walky was pestering Billie about his newly-found sexual prowess, so that was last term. Time flies. Indeed, it flies faster with timeskips.

    • Sombrero
      Sombrero
      December 3, 2021 at 4:38 am | #

      Also: DoA Book 12 – Liz Out!

  30. Chris (the other one)
    Chris (the other one)
    December 3, 2021 at 5:43 am | #

    So, way down here at the bottom, as of right now anyway, I have a (legit) question.

    I understand what primary sex characteristics are.
    I understand what secondary sex characteristics are.
    Is there any (scientific) name for those things that are erogenous, but neither primary or secondary?

    OK, what am I referring to, you ask? I know, or have known, more than one female type person who would achieve orgasm from nothing more than kissing/stroking/sucking/etc on various part of their bodies, not part of the primary or secondary ‘characteristics’. (i.e. neck, inside the elbows, tummy, inside the knees, toes (don’t hate, it’s a thing)…)

    • Chris (the other one)
      Chris (the other one)
      December 3, 2021 at 5:46 am | #

      and no, I am not talking about faked orgasms, but for real ones, with bodily function reactions related to actual sexual orgasms.

      • Zaxares
        Zaxares
        December 3, 2021 at 6:12 am | #

        I’m no doctor or sexual therapist, but based on my experiences in BDSM and alt-sexuality circles, I’m inclined to think that it’s a combination of the brain’s vital role in sexual arousal and training the body to associate different sensations with pleasure (which in turn lead to orgasm). I have observed that it seems to be more difficult for males to achieve this than females (as you mentioned, I know a fair few women who can achieve genuine orgasm from a number of unusual sources), although I am unsure if that’s just because culturally and in sexual play a lot of it ultimately does tend to come back to (and involve) the penis, so there’s less opportunity for the kind of “mental re-training” that I mentioned.

        • Eldritchy
          Eldritchy
          December 3, 2021 at 6:46 am | #

          Huh, just yesterday I watched a little documentary about Ian Fleming and apparently he had a real thing for violent sex which might have been caused by him being in a school where they were really enthusiastic about corporal punishment when he was young…

    • eh, whatever
      eh, whatever
      December 3, 2021 at 7:25 am | #

      Sounds like synesthesia to me.

      • The Wellerman
        The Wellerman
        December 3, 2021 at 4:20 pm | #

        Nah, “synesthesia” is a condition some people have where when their senses are being processed, they also get processed as other senses. For instance, those with synesthesia might “hear color” or “see taste” or “smell music”. This phenomenon can also be experienced on some kinds of drugs, although it is still very rare and generally non-reproducable.

        Also, to answer Chris’s original question, I think you already have the word.

        They’re called “erogenous zones” or “erogenous organs”. (Can confirm, took a university course about it)

    • milu
      milu
      December 3, 2021 at 7:54 am | #

      i think you may be misunderstanding what the “sex” in “secondary sex characteristiscs” means.

      Those traits are sexual in that they signal reproductive capability, and are typically sex-specific (although not always like pubic and armpit hair). So for instance the adam’s apple is a male secondary sexual characteristic, while the widening of the hips is a female one but neither of these constitues an “erogenous zone” necessarily.

      but to your specific question, i don’t know =)

      (i will say that the observation that different people are aroused by stimulation to different parts of their body isn’t especially salient to me? Personally getting my ears licked and breathed into will just about send me. Anyway, the brain is the main erogenous zone as they say. you know that’s true if you’ve ever had a wet dream)

      • Decidedly Orthogonal
        Decidedly Orthogonal
        December 3, 2021 at 9:18 am | #

        > “Personally getting my ears licked and breathed into will just about send me”

        Noted

        • milu
          milu
          December 3, 2021 at 4:03 pm | #

          i appreciate that you zeroed in on the important part of my comment ^^

          the window-dressing i will go to when what i really want is to be a good old thirsty horndog. i mean a bad dog. rrrawr.

      • The Wellerman
        The Wellerman
        December 3, 2021 at 4:29 pm | #

        “the brain is the main erogenous zone as they say. You know that’s true if you’ve ever had a wet dream”

        Very true, but unfortunately, I don’t think I’ve ever had a wet dream myself 😔

        Anyone have any tips on how to increase the likelihood of having one?

        • milu
          milu
          December 3, 2021 at 5:43 pm | #

          well as a penis-ed person, it’s happened to me when i go a whiles without voluntarily ejaculating. i imagine there’s a mechanical explanation, like sperm production being continuous there comes a point when the excess gets discharged, though it is funny that in my experience the few times it’s happened it was always accompanied by some sort of sex dream. So idk, do sex dreams happen regularly but only trigger a sleep ejaculation when one’s balls are especially crammed? or is it the other way around, and there’s some sort of hormone that lets the brain know it’s time to cue up that special sort of dream?

          But yeah it does take a while, maybe three weeks or more. and the dreams i’ve had were not especially pleasant, but that’s just me probably. One thing is constant though, those dreams really seem very short. Apparently when my subconscious brain is at the wheel, it knows how to get me from zero to 💦 in literal seconds. And it happens entirely hands-free of course. I tend to remember the dreams fairly well because i always wake up (in a bit of a panic, i might say, because before i realize what happened, all i know is that some fluid has just escaped my body while in bed. i know i was just having a sex dream, not a wanting-to-pee dream but the old panic flares up just the same. I don’t even have time to enjoy it. in fact i wouldn’t count it as an orgasm at all. So it’s not a very pleasant experience for me. Then again it’s only happened at times when my libido was absolutely switched off, which is why i wasn’t coming in the first place. so. idk.)

          that’s my anecdotal 2 cents on this weird thing my body does! can’t say i understand wanting to have one, but it is a kind of interesting thing that happens sometimes.

  31. Rabisch
    Rabisch
    December 3, 2021 at 7:27 am | #

    This is cute. Dina has understood what happened, but she has not really understood why Joe was sad and she wants to knows.

  32. Acher4
    Acher4
    December 3, 2021 at 7:35 am | #

    Liz is never leaving, isn’t she?
    She lives at the chairs’ area now.

  33. Keulen
    Keulen
    December 3, 2021 at 8:09 am | #

    So is Joe gonna actually talk about his shame with Dina or not? I kinda hope so but I feel like it could go either way at this point.

  34. 0kami
    0kami
    December 3, 2021 at 8:14 am | #

    Translation: “You get at dem tiddies or what”

  35. Spencer
    Spencer
    December 3, 2021 at 8:18 am | #

    Happy birthday to the Willis twins!

    • Vulcanodon
      Vulcanodon
      December 3, 2021 at 8:26 am | #

      Seconded! Hoping for a side comic the day @damnyouwillis goes to their third grade class to talk about his work

  36. Ryek Hvek
    Ryek Hvek
    December 3, 2021 at 8:47 am | #

    Happy Twinsday!! (the best thing about being parents of twins is that you can race ’em)

    • Decidedly Orthogonal
      Decidedly Orthogonal
      December 3, 2021 at 9:08 am | #

      This would have been useless in Galileo’s tests for confirming uniform acceleration due to gravity.

  37. Decidedly Orthogonal
    Decidedly Orthogonal
    December 3, 2021 at 9:06 am | #

    🌈 HAPPY 🎁 BIRTHDAY 🎂 KID 🎈 WILLIS’ 🎉

    Good morning to you,
    Happy birthday to you,
    Hap-py BIRTH-day dear Willis’s’ses’s kids!
    Happy Burthday to you!

  38. Dave
    Dave
    December 3, 2021 at 9:27 am | #

    “As we have established, you have been subdued.” This is my new mantra. It will be my go to statement from now on. I predict my wife will be tired of this new mantra in 10…9…8…7…

  39. Solace
    Solace
    December 3, 2021 at 3:11 pm | #

    Don’t know where else to send this, but I can’t get the comics in the archive to load starting May 16, 2011.

    • milu
      milu
      December 3, 2021 at 4:08 pm | #

      the entire site was down for a few hours apparently, including this page. there’s nearly 6 hours between your comment and the latest one before that.

      • Regalli
        Regalli
        December 3, 2021 at 11:45 pm | #

        Yeah, it was down for a while and IW! reruns had a weird issue with comments in moderation.

        I choose to believe it was the price required for 9 Chickweed Lane to finally get pulled from the LA Times and possibly cancelled by syndication for using slurs, which might finally end Willis’s hatetweet threads on Twitter.

        • The Wellerman
          The Wellerman
          December 3, 2021 at 11:59 pm | #

          Required?

          You think that Willis is doing some Equivalent Exchange Alchemical Transmutation to pull this off?

          If so, that’d actually be kind of cool…

  40. StClair
    StClair
    December 3, 2021 at 3:32 pm | #

    And she didn’t even have to strike him with the flat of a blade.

    • davidbreslin101
      davidbreslin101
      December 3, 2021 at 4:31 pm | #

      Just as well. If Dina draws steel, she is honor-bound to draw blood.

  41. ElderlyMarxist
    ElderlyMarxist
    December 3, 2021 at 5:16 pm | #

    aw, happy birthday to david’s kids! hopefully they’re eating better than soggy cinnamon toast crunch. unless that’s their favourite

    • ElderlyMarxist
      ElderlyMarxist
      December 3, 2021 at 5:16 pm | #

      i got sarah i am so delighted

  42. PhoenixBoi
    PhoenixBoi
    December 3, 2021 at 7:09 pm | #

    I love this series!

  43. Jennifer Bak
    Jennifer Bak
    December 3, 2021 at 7:43 pm | #

    Happy birthday to your kids! 😀

  44. khn0
    khn0
    December 3, 2021 at 8:36 pm | #

    Happy birthday to the kids!
    Mine has still a month left to be six.
    You’re old.

  45. saltchocolate
    saltchocolate
    December 3, 2021 at 8:48 pm | #

    Hey, autotext! Happy birth—WHUT????? 6????

  46. WanderingLynx
    WanderingLynx
    December 3, 2021 at 9:04 pm | #

    Oh holy shit, I’d been delaying my coming back to this most excellent Comment Sections but yesterday’s strip and this one have me grinning too hard.

    Dina is domming Joe and she doesn’t even need leather or nudity to subdue him. This is Dom Talk. “I know you sometimes deny the things you need, now say them out loud”. And Joe…

    Joe is a brat.

    • The Wellerman
      The Wellerman
      December 3, 2021 at 9:48 pm | #

      Is that so? Then you’ve come back at the PERFECT time!!!

      Hopefully you’ll stick around for Valentine’s Day. From what I’ve heard, it’s gonna get WILD!!!

      *plays “Awake” on the Hacked Muzak*

      • WanderingLynx
        WanderingLynx
        December 3, 2021 at 10:12 pm | #

        Oh, I’d NEVER miss Valentine’s Day. It’s a whole tradition with Willis 8D Also it’s nice to see you again!

        PS: What an excellent piece you’re performing, good sir! I take that you’ve started Stone Ocean as well?

        • The Wellerman
          The Wellerman
          December 3, 2021 at 11:05 pm | #

          Not yet, I usually wait for the dub to air on Toonami whenever I watch anime.

          But from what I can deduce from the trailer, no kidding it’s gonna be OUT OF THIS WORLD!!! 😆😆😆

  47. Guy Sensei
    Guy Sensei
    December 3, 2021 at 9:33 pm | #

    Happy Birthday Children of Willis.

  48. DojimaKojima
    DojimaKojima
    December 3, 2021 at 10:32 pm | #

    Honestly, i love this Joe/Dina duo, they’re very funny together. They bounce off each other really well. Although nothing will beat a Becky/Dina strip.

  49. Kim
    Kim
    December 4, 2021 at 2:13 am | #

    Joe+Dina friendship is turning out pretty sweet. I hope they get close! ^_^

    • The Wellerman
      The Wellerman
      December 4, 2021 at 2:16 am | #

      How much closer than they get than they are in this strip LOL

  50. P!enapple
    P!enapple
    December 4, 2021 at 9:54 am | #

    Happy birthday!!!!

  51. Jungle Dwayne
    Jungle Dwayne
    December 4, 2021 at 12:56 pm | #

    Dina’s expression in panel 3 is perfect.

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