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Firstly, he’s the sort (like me) who speaks (over-) formally to others most of the time, and colloquially only to close friends (if any) and to himself.
Secondly, he’s actually using “innit?” (isn’t it?) grammatically correctly: he’d probably also say “dunnit?” (doesn’t it?), “din’I?” (didn’t I?) and so on where appropriate, rather than the current younger generations’ “innit?” in all circumstances regardless of grammar.
Meh. He is literally just attempting to do a favor for his girlfriend in an unpaid, unofficial capacity at the request of a third party. I’m gonna count this mission as a success- message attempted to be delivered, party was belligerent and did not get the message, his obligation is done. I don’t think anyone who isn’t getting paid to do so should ever have to put up with Carla’s shit if they have no interest in interacting with her.
As someone from the UK, I’m interpreting panel four as Jason dropping the affected posh accent in favour of something more real. It reads like it should be one of the London accents (although his use of ‘innit’ could mean he’s actually from South Wales, around Newport or Cardiff, like I am).
Mind you, I could be misinterpreting. The tiktok references are largely passing me by, because I haven’t been a teen since 1990…
Yeah, that’s how I’m reading it, but I’m not entirely convinced that’s the intent. “innit” is pretty wide spread though, I’d say it’s more of a class signifier rather than a geographical one.
Well here’s the thing. We do know where Jason is from. Knightsbridge.
I have a genuinely difficult time imagining anyone with as posh an accent as Jason’s who also claims to be from Knightsbridge and is the son of a “cruel captain of industry” EVER saying the word “innit”.
Do I think this means Jason is actually secretly not rich and doesn’t have a supervillain dad? No, probably not. I think Willis just doesn’t know all the nuances of how Brits talk. I could be wrong though. Maybe all his “rich kid with an evil dad” stuff is all made up. Unlikely, but in this comic, who knows.
Yeah, totally agreed- this is just a misstep from Willis. Like you said, Jason would absolutely NEVER say “innit”; even a spoiled rich kid doing the whole “Mockney” thing to seem cool never goes as far as “innit”. It’s part and parcel of a full-on “geeza” (or nowadays “roadman”) persona, complete with entirely different accent and way of forming words, not just something that one chucks in. Understandable error though, even if it took me right out of the page! Of course, as you said, if this is supposed to be some kind of “hint” for future story development re: his background, that’s totally different.
Since he didn’t need to say anything so ce he’s just talking to himself I assumed he was thumbing the snark, or maybe that’s his impression of a British tik tok teen but for his own age group, like some effected Fast Show chavyness or some such.
Or it’s just a mishmash of UK idioms/references for comic effect. E.g. “all’s well that ends well” comes from Shakespeare, though it’s not something exclusively for British people…
…Or if it is, I’m in trouble, because I’m over here in Canada *hides in an igloo filled with hockey sticks and maple syrup*
Hey – Carla says something about “… being the TikTok Teen we both know you are.” We already know Carla has connections to the vast enterprise that is RuTech and has drawn on them before. Perhaps, using the resources at her disposal, she has discovered that Jason IS an imposter, or the disgraced offspring of said evil industrialist, or even someone in the Witness Relocation Program and this is his new identity.
After what we’ve seen over the past ten-twelve years, I’m at the point where I wouldn’t bet a wooden nickel against anything Willis might have up his sleeve.
No, but Carla likes to push people’s buttons. She’s sort of like Puck a ‘Mid-Summer’s Night Dream’ complete with spending an inordinate amount of her time having to deal with horny teenagers and their over-complicated romance problems.
*Meanwhile, the Muzak is running absolutely NON-HACKED so we may bring you the Latest Dan Mason Elevator Album! (Also in memory of Vangelis. I already miss him.)
RIP Vangelis. I heard the news on the radio yesterday (they played a bit of the Chariots of Fire soundtrack).
He was a pretty unique composer, too. I mean, I can think of others who mixed electronic and classical (e.g. Stockhausen on the more avant-garde side), but no one with a style quite like his.
Yeah, it’s one of two modalities Americans tend to know- the “pip pip tally ho what what?” toff idiot or the “innit bruv, u wot mate?” swaggering oaf. The fact also comes to mind that both of these tend to be pertaining to the South-East (mainly London), which being it contains our capital makes sense why it’s best known. Still, agreed- he would never say “innit”, it a) simply isn’t part of the idiolect of a Jason, b) isn’t just “a word” an otherwise-plummy upper-middle-class young man inserts to leaven his stuffiness. If said young man were attempting to cover his real voice etc, they have other methods.
I’m confused. To the best of my recollection we have neither seen nor heard anything of Jason’s parents, mother OR father, in the Dumbiverse – so any reference to his father comes from the Walkyverse.
Now, when I first discovered “Dumbing of Age” it was touted as a stand-alone comic – although I have come to learn that literally all the characters, along with their names, are lifted from Willis’ previous Walkyverse and Shortpacked creations.
So I suppose my question is this: Is everything in the Walkyverse considered to be canon in the Dumbiverse too?
The Walkyverse isn’t necessarily canon to the Dumbiverse, but characters are ported over in broad strokes (and as a rule their sexualities are the same).
I never read comics from the Walkyverse either – but at some point (I think when he is talking to Walky before they go out on the town) Jason says that “His father is basically a supervillain” – a comment which never expanded upon or explained. Also, that is pretty much the totality of what we know about his family.
Oh right they were A Thing in the Walkyverse, weren’t they. And also Sal and Marcie weren’t friends.
Like, I get why Jason and Sal’s relationship went kablooey after It’s Walky! and all, but… from what little we see of their interactions, Marcie never actually has conversations with Jason. Because Walkyverse Marcie… basically doesn’t communicate at all. Her whole schtick was that she could talk (unlike DoA Marcie), but chose not to in order to project some air of… mystery? Intimidation? Like, Walkyverse Marcie never even has facial expressions. It was one thing when she was part of Squadron 48 since it basically doubled as a polycule, but when it’s just her and Jason one-on-one the whole relationship feels super one-sided and I never got it.
I think Carla would enjoy making out if it pissed someone off. Not the person she was making out with, obviously, but she’d do it to make a third party mad.
I can. Walky’s probably going to warn Joyce all ‘hey, you might wanna find cover, Becky an’ Dina are Tigger-bouncing’ everyone because they boned’. Because no one said told him it was a secret amidst the telling everyone around them at high volume.
Joyce will expect Becky to share, and then Becky won’t.
…I swear, Willis is having Jason switch between different English dialects on purpose just to mess with us. Given, I’m not English, so my familiarity with English dialects is entirely secondhand, but within that limited knowledge, I can’t imagine Jason saying all of these British-isms in the same accent.
There’s an easy way to tell if he’s Aussie. Ask him what line follows ‘Am I Ever Going to See Your Face Again’ in the song of the same name by the Angels.
That… is almost possible. I’m not English but did live in parts of it for a combined amount of nine years at different periods and Jason doesn’t sound remotely like an English person I’ve ever met. Even the ones with the posh accents don’t talk like him at all. He’s a walking stereotype who perhaps never existed. Or only existed back when his great grandparents were his age in a muted form of this.
But back across on the other side of the Irish Sea where I grew up and went to school I remember going to school as a teen with a girl from Australia who we all thought was English the first few months. Based on her accent.
She was from Queensland. So almost. (But seriously it’s hilarious that people from that part of Australia sound so very very English).
The only wrinkle is that most Australians would find that deeply insulting. She did? (We all just shrugged at her outrage.)
Meh. Maybe Carla is sort of on the money yesterday. He’s desperately trying to cop to the stereotypes of his people he believes Americans will eat up and at least make him seem memorable. But it just makes him annoying and weird Anglophiles (or as some people call them ‘tea-a-boos’ are probably now less common in America in his generation. Or at least here.
Counter proposal: Jason IS English but he’s from Liverpool and putting on a play at being from the posh end of London.
It’s a very affected way of speaking, certainly. I can’t think of any English TV characters who speak like Jason. The closest comparison I can think of is maybe Niles Crane?
I kind of like the idea that his natural dialect is one associated with being poor/working class, and he’s affecting a posh dialect to try to impress people. He’s not very good at it, but hey, most Americans can’t tell the difference.
Yeah, innit is absolutely not the posh dialect he has been speaking this entire comic. It’s decidedly lower class, compared to the thesaurus RP he normally speaks.
Yeah, James May’s accent probably turned up about one notch in stuffiness given Jason’s more “high status”, but basically I’d say so. James May’s mouth would barely be able to form the word “innit”, let alone utter it without twisting in pure revulsion as he performed an involuntary full-body shudder, which illustrates amply the fact that Jason would, similarly, never utter it without having to shift his entire accent. If what’s being shown in-comic is that he’s totally dropped the “proper” RP for his real rough-and-ready accent, to show he’s putting on a facade, or something, then fine- if not, just jarring, unfortunately. But not the end of the world- just interesting to wonder about!
Jason is the latest AI prototype of Chesterfield Industries. They are working on a project to restore Britishness to the UK by repopulating it with AI-powered clones infused with Bond-esque traits, but they ain’t there yet.
I am 100% convinced Jason isn’t really British. No one is this British. Definitely not the queen (who should be considered German by the standards of the nationalists). It’s very possible that Willis is just having fun making him a stereotype though. In which case, we are both getting something out of this.
At first I read that as “no one is British” and I kind of like that better. Like, come on, do you really think British people are real? “Britain” is just a few empty buildings that they take photos of and occasionally fly people out to look at so they can keep up the charade. British accents are just the by-product of the memory-erasure that they do on people who see what’s ACTUALLY happening on that island.
Yeah. The world is flat, obviously. The “northern hemisphere” doesn’t really exist. All those people who pretend to have been to “New York” and “London” are actors paid by the globe=makers’ conspiracy.
Good ol’ yoto has never put on a condom so I legit didn’t know. The act of putting on a condom looks weird and awkward to me. It just makes sense to me that these characters would wear one.
Some people just like it raw. It’s not like, a moral imperative or nothin’. Also some people just haven’t had an occasion to use one, by choice or otherwise.
Condom isn’t a moral imperative?
Maybe I understood it wrongly but I wouldn’t suggest it’s a YMMV thing, whatever test or faith you are presented, it’s just better to assume that a raw first time is at least partly a peer pressured consent, so not a consent.
Also I thought condom use was part of sex ed, but I guess sex ed can vary…
Disagree hard. Consenting adults can consent to risky behavior, so long as everyone is on board before clothes come off.
Yes, if Walky had whined/complained about it, that’s not good behavior. If Billy had jumped him against his protests, that’s not good behavior. But if Walky was out, and Billy was on board with risking it, then that’s not bad, or morally reprehensible, or akin to non-consensual behavior.
Got it. Not wearing a condom makes sex non-consentual. Sure, that makes perfect sense. Speak plainly, Ascian. I’m tired of solving riddles over simple things like this.
I don’t know what ascian means.
I don’t how it is a riddle, I’m just not a native english speaker, that may be that.
Also you distort what I say:
FIRST TIME, it is non consensual – not the sex mind you, but the choice of wearing a condom or not. Unless you think pushovers can’t have sex.
Hum, looks like it didn’t like my post the first time, so let’s see if it works better rehosted to imgur. From an old condom PSA featuring Death and Constantine: https://i.imgur.com/lKfwyOm.jpg
I, for the life of me, should and could not picture as a TikTok teen. However, put him into a “Rich Kid” environment and he might look like one without even trying
I can see that. She has a pretty short attention span for anything not directly involving herself, plus she more likes being obnoxious in the moment than actively instigating conflict for people.
I am beginning to suspect that Jason is secretly very working class, based on that in general only social climbers use “posh words” because the upper classes don’t need to use language to show their status.
Not at all impossible for a “cruel captain of industry” to have come from working class roots. Perhaps rare, but not impossible.
If his dad was noveau riche, that could explain both the posh front and the apparent swap to a lower class dialect.
But a certain type of upper class people do use those words because it’s part of the whole “image”.
It’s a bit like how both upper and working class people are more likely to give their kids unusual names, or regular names with unusual spellings, whereas middle-class people are more likely to go with “James”.
As a general observation, this makes sense. But I’ve come across a few middle-class people giving their kids unusual names. The one I remember: a kid called Oceann. Honestly, it struck me as a cool name, but if I were the parent I’d just spell it Ocean.
Also, my (lower middle class) parents gave me the name Kirsten, which is at least mildly weird since we’re not Norwegian or Danish (they just liked that version better than Christine).
The balance between “giving a kid a cool name” and “trying to make sure they’re not bullied at school” is really hard. It took us over two weeks to come up with a name for our baby. And there weeks to come up with a name for the cat.
(I tend to err on the side of caution. Giving a kid a cool name brings with it a lot of pressure, as they have to be cool enough to live up to it. And hey, if they want a cooler name when they’re older they can always change it.)
Characters realizing mid-bit that they can solve their problems by disengaging is such a rarely used tool in storytelling. I get that it’s rarely used because it short circuits conflict, which kinda by definition makes the story worse, but man I cannot lie – I love it anyway.
A teenager who has eaten the Toki Toki no Mi and become a power user with the ability to jump forward in time by a seemingly unlimited amount, with the caveat that they cannot go backward.
Better question is, why it is the first thing you asked yourself? Her transitioning wasn’t mantioned and it has literally nothing to do with her arrogance. Why point it out? Why not regard trans person as… just a person with innate character traits and flaws? For context, my partner is trans. And I do have to have these conversations IRL sometimes, telling someone that she is literally the same person that she always was. Maybe you had good intentions, but it ruffled my feathers.
When I transitioned I didn’t become a whole different person, but I did feel more free to express myself. If Carla was less obnoxious before it’s probably because she was suffering from gender dysphoria and bullying, which is honestly just sad.
People deserve to be insufferable on their own terms, instead of being forced to hide it because a bunch of loudmouths with #Opinions think they don’t deserve rights. Be a menace, be the chaos the world needs.
I’ve seen multiple posts about Shakespeare, specifically in reference to that one phrase. Is it expected to be semi-obscure or something? I thought it was a pretty common phrase, I see it in all sorts of things and people say it a lot in my area.
Lol @ the British people uncertain about Jason’s accent. This is how I feel when I’m watching Doctor Who and the “American” characters are all saying “clever” instead of “smart” or pronouncing “os” like “boss” at the end of words instead of like “most”. It’s the little details that really make it authentic, and your puzzlement is very relatable.
Americans do not use “clever” to mean “very intelligent”; rather, it usually applies to particular insights that wouldn’t be routine or obvious to even the highly intelligent.
What Rotunda said – ‘clever’ is more about lateral thinking, perceptiveness, insight, wit. It’s different from ‘smart’ in the American vernacular, as ‘smart’ generally seems mostly reserved for capacity for knowledge gain/retention.
yknow, at first i was like “what does ruth see in jason” but now i get it. their minds work in similar ways. jason’s methods may be less violent than ruth has historically been, but their logic is the same
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I see a few flaws in his logic.
Flaws? In Jason’s logic? Inconceivable!
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
….Since when does Jason say
“INNIT”?!?
Pod people confirmed!
Nah: it works for me (also a Brit).
Firstly, he’s the sort (like me) who speaks (over-) formally to others most of the time, and colloquially only to close friends (if any) and to himself.
Secondly, he’s actually using “innit?” (isn’t it?) grammatically correctly: he’d probably also say “dunnit?” (doesn’t it?), “din’I?” (didn’t I?) and so on where appropriate, rather than the current younger generations’ “innit?” in all circumstances regardless of grammar.
They’re not flaws in his logic if he doesn’t actually care about anything more than being able to say he won.
Dunno. I can’t even understand why the title is lodgings rather than winning.
Well, looks to me like you win, you fixed it, … Rather Willis fixed it.
On my browser the title still says Lodgings.
Meh. He is literally just attempting to do a favor for his girlfriend in an unpaid, unofficial capacity at the request of a third party. I’m gonna count this mission as a success- message attempted to be delivered, party was belligerent and did not get the message, his obligation is done. I don’t think anyone who isn’t getting paid to do so should ever have to put up with Carla’s shit if they have no interest in interacting with her.
I dunno, she’s locked in her room and doesn’t know who Joyce is, I think Carla’s shot herself in the foot here.
To be fair Carla didn’t really care about this and is probably enjoying herself so I think she still wins.
Jason be like, how’s this for TikTok Teen
(to be fair, many of the best solutions are also the
laziestmost efficient solutions)huh, adding a title to an href is filtered now? or
For how long exactly does he think this problem will be solved?
Long enough for it to become Ruth’s problem again.
All this is just for giving Jason the high that he’s serving his master/goddess. Mission accomplished.
And she was never seen again.
Although, technically Jason is right. He was a TA and now tends bar, so he’s definitely out of his teens.
But is he out of tiktok? I think that’s the important aspect.
No, but to keep his identity secret he combs his hair differently, puts on a sunny attitude, and recreates vintage recipes.
You’ve got to admit, he’s got the accent and build, and the eyebrows are pretty spot on too.
Eyebrows and a nice button up is my kryptonite…
The eyebrows are spot on! I don’t think he could pull of the accent though. Jason seems pretty proud of his speaking voice.
As someone from the UK, I’m interpreting panel four as Jason dropping the affected posh accent in favour of something more real. It reads like it should be one of the London accents (although his use of ‘innit’ could mean he’s actually from South Wales, around Newport or Cardiff, like I am).
Mind you, I could be misinterpreting. The tiktok references are largely passing me by, because I haven’t been a teen since 1990…
Apropos of nothing, but as a weeb from Swansea, the ‘Innit is British for Desu’ meme causes me physical pain.
Don’t be silly, Innit is british for “Desu ne“
Maybe Bristol ish? If he starts talking like Russell Howard then we’ll have him pegged.
Until proven otherwise, I’m assuming this is what Tic-toc-teens are supposed sound like.
Yeah, that’s how I’m reading it, but I’m not entirely convinced that’s the intent. “innit” is pretty wide spread though, I’d say it’s more of a class signifier rather than a geographical one.
Well here’s the thing. We do know where Jason is from. Knightsbridge.
I have a genuinely difficult time imagining anyone with as posh an accent as Jason’s who also claims to be from Knightsbridge and is the son of a “cruel captain of industry” EVER saying the word “innit”.
Do I think this means Jason is actually secretly not rich and doesn’t have a supervillain dad? No, probably not. I think Willis just doesn’t know all the nuances of how Brits talk. I could be wrong though. Maybe all his “rich kid with an evil dad” stuff is all made up. Unlikely, but in this comic, who knows.
Yeah, totally agreed- this is just a misstep from Willis. Like you said, Jason would absolutely NEVER say “innit”; even a spoiled rich kid doing the whole “Mockney” thing to seem cool never goes as far as “innit”. It’s part and parcel of a full-on “geeza” (or nowadays “roadman”) persona, complete with entirely different accent and way of forming words, not just something that one chucks in. Understandable error though, even if it took me right out of the page! Of course, as you said, if this is supposed to be some kind of “hint” for future story development re: his background, that’s totally different.
Since he didn’t need to say anything so ce he’s just talking to himself I assumed he was thumbing the snark, or maybe that’s his impression of a British tik tok teen but for his own age group, like some effected Fast Show chavyness or some such.
idk I feel like any 100% perfect/”accurate” dialogue is unnatural bc who is ever perfect
Maybe Penny’s rubbing off on him, with her “10 British accents in one sentence” speech pattern.
Or it’s just a mishmash of UK idioms/references for comic effect. E.g. “all’s well that ends well” comes from Shakespeare, though it’s not something exclusively for British people…
…Or if it is, I’m in trouble, because I’m over here in Canada *hides in an igloo filled with hockey sticks and maple syrup*
I mean that face and hand gesture is him just not taking himself seriously for a second and loosening up.
In posh, “innit” is pronounced “isn’t it”.
Hey – Carla says something about “… being the TikTok Teen we both know you are.” We already know Carla has connections to the vast enterprise that is RuTech and has drawn on them before. Perhaps, using the resources at her disposal, she has discovered that Jason IS an imposter, or the disgraced offspring of said evil industrialist, or even someone in the Witness Relocation Program and this is his new identity.
After what we’ve seen over the past ten-twelve years, I’m at the point where I wouldn’t bet a wooden nickel against anything Willis might have up his sleeve.
I was expecting someone completely different. (But much less like Jason.)
That also works.
I was all ready to protest that Max is a ton hotter than Jason, until I checked the link.
A Tik-Tok Grahame Kerr?
Ok. I’m immediately following Jason’s alter ego on TikTok now.
Good choice. He occasionally does longer recipes on YouTube as well.
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So, Jason is obligated to conform to the idea of Jason that exists in Carla’s head, regardless of reality or his thoughts and feelings?
Reality IS what;s in Carla’s head.
She is dreamer, we are merely the dream.
I read that Phillip K. Dick novel!
We all one day wake from the dream.
No, but Carla likes to push people’s buttons. She’s sort of like Puck a ‘Mid-Summer’s Night Dream’ complete with spending an inordinate amount of her time having to deal with horny teenagers and their over-complicated romance problems.
Yes, that is how human interaction works.
Are ya winning, Carla?
*Meanwhile, the Muzak is running absolutely NON-HACKED so we may bring you the Latest Dan Mason Elevator Album! (Also in memory of Vangelis. I already miss him.)
RIP Vangelis.
I heard the news on the radio yesterday (they played a bit of the Chariots of Fire soundtrack).
He was a pretty unique composer, too. I mean, I can think of others who mixed electronic and classical (e.g. Stockhausen on the more avant-garde side), but no one with a style quite like his.
Several of the biggest rock bands of all time offered to have him join them, but he went his own way. I think he knew how special he was, even then.
I mean, to be fair… Jason isn’t a teenager anymore. At least, biologically.
I can think of no way for this to end poorly. Right everyone?
I mean, I can’t think of a way for it to end well.
So yes.
It already ended well.
problem solved, innit
innit, bruv
u wot, m8?
Allow it, fam.
I find it hilarious that Jason goes from “paramour” to “innit” in a matter of seconds.
I feel like this may have something to do with Willis not realising that the stereotype of all Brits saying “innit” is wildly inaccurate.
Yeah, it’s one of two modalities Americans tend to know- the “pip pip tally ho what what?” toff idiot or the “innit bruv, u wot mate?” swaggering oaf. The fact also comes to mind that both of these tend to be pertaining to the South-East (mainly London), which being it contains our capital makes sense why it’s best known. Still, agreed- he would never say “innit”, it a) simply isn’t part of the idiolect of a Jason, b) isn’t just “a word” an otherwise-plummy upper-middle-class young man inserts to leaven his stuffiness. If said young man were attempting to cover his real voice etc, they have other methods.
Or he did it on purpose to troll the peanut gallery.
But not as inaccurate as supposing that Australians parrot Julia Dreyfuss parroting Meryl Streep in the trailers for A Cry in the Dark.
Jason looks positively devious in panel four!
He is dad is ‘basically a supervillian’ so I guess its in his blood.
Apparently also Jazz hands?
I’m confused. To the best of my recollection we have neither seen nor heard anything of Jason’s parents, mother OR father, in the Dumbiverse – so any reference to his father comes from the Walkyverse.
Now, when I first discovered “Dumbing of Age” it was touted as a stand-alone comic – although I have come to learn that literally all the characters, along with their names, are lifted from Willis’ previous Walkyverse and Shortpacked creations.
So I suppose my question is this: Is everything in the Walkyverse considered to be canon in the Dumbiverse too?
About all the elaboration we’ve gotten about him in the Dumbiverse is “Dargon Chesterfield is a cruel and powerful captain of industry.”
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2018/comic/book-8/03-faz-is-great/knob/
The Walkyverse isn’t necessarily canon to the Dumbiverse, but characters are ported over in broad strokes (and as a rule their sexualities are the same).
I never read comics from the Walkyverse either – but at some point (I think when he is talking to Walky before they go out on the town) Jason says that “His father is basically a supervillain” – a comment which never expanded upon or explained. Also, that is pretty much the totality of what we know about his family.
I thought he was waving towards the fourth wall (the movement lines of his right hand are well hidden on his shirt)
Yes he is! Or giving mini jazz hands (not above his head). So still a win for Carla.
Oh shit.
Something worked out for Jason.
Really glad this universe doesn’t have him and Marcie as a ship…
Oh right they were A Thing in the Walkyverse, weren’t they. And also Sal and Marcie weren’t friends.
Like, I get why Jason and Sal’s relationship went kablooey after It’s Walky! and all, but… from what little we see of their interactions, Marcie never actually has conversations with Jason. Because Walkyverse Marcie… basically doesn’t communicate at all. Her whole schtick was that she could talk (unlike DoA Marcie), but chose not to in order to project some air of… mystery? Intimidation? Like, Walkyverse Marcie never even has facial expressions. It was one thing when she was part of Squadron 48 since it basically doubled as a polycule, but when it’s just her and Jason one-on-one the whole relationship feels super one-sided and I never got it.
Weird.
Devious.
Carla’s got the right Idea.
Jason’s got the right idea.
They should make out.
I don’t think Carla likes making out.
She can’t stop me from thinking.
I think Carla would enjoy making out if it pissed someone off. Not the person she was making out with, obviously, but she’d do it to make a third party mad.
I also think that even if she did like it, she wouldn’t like making out with a dude
Imagine if this storyline ends without Joyce finding out…
I really can’t imagine this ending without Becky telling her
I can. Walky’s probably going to warn Joyce all ‘hey, you might wanna find cover, Becky an’ Dina are Tigger-bouncing’ everyone because they boned’. Because no one said told him it was a secret amidst the telling everyone around them at high volume.
Joyce will expect Becky to share, and then Becky won’t.
It will be revealed in the second last panel of the final page of the comic.
…I swear, Willis is having Jason switch between different English dialects on purpose just to mess with us. Given, I’m not English, so my familiarity with English dialects is entirely secondhand, but within that limited knowledge, I can’t imagine Jason saying all of these British-isms in the same accent.
Yes, I assumed he’d deliberately switched accents for some purpose I was about to discover… but apparently not.
I think he switched accents because Carla demanded ‘TikTok teen’ and he figured ‘eh, I’m done with this anyway’.
What if it turns out that Jason isn’t actually British?
Plot twist, he actually adopted his over-the-top accent to hide the awful truth that he was really from Australia.
There’s an easy way to tell if he’s Aussie. Ask him what line follows ‘Am I Ever Going to See Your Face Again’ in the song of the same name by the Angels.
That… is almost possible. I’m not English but did live in parts of it for a combined amount of nine years at different periods and Jason doesn’t sound remotely like an English person I’ve ever met. Even the ones with the posh accents don’t talk like him at all. He’s a walking stereotype who perhaps never existed. Or only existed back when his great grandparents were his age in a muted form of this.
But back across on the other side of the Irish Sea where I grew up and went to school I remember going to school as a teen with a girl from Australia who we all thought was English the first few months. Based on her accent.
She was from Queensland. So almost. (But seriously it’s hilarious that people from that part of Australia sound so very very English).
The only wrinkle is that most Australians would find that deeply insulting. She did? (We all just shrugged at her outrage.)
Meh. Maybe Carla is sort of on the money yesterday. He’s desperately trying to cop to the stereotypes of his people he believes Americans will eat up and at least make him seem memorable. But it just makes him annoying and weird Anglophiles (or as some people call them ‘tea-a-boos’ are probably now less common in America in his generation. Or at least here.
Counter proposal: Jason IS English but he’s from Liverpool and putting on a play at being from the posh end of London.
It’s a very affected way of speaking, certainly. I can’t think of any English TV characters who speak like Jason. The closest comparison I can think of is maybe Niles Crane?
I kind of like the idea that his natural dialect is one associated with being poor/working class, and he’s affecting a posh dialect to try to impress people. He’s not very good at it, but hey, most Americans can’t tell the difference.
Yeah, innit is absolutely not the posh dialect he has been speaking this entire comic. It’s decidedly lower class, compared to the thesaurus RP he normally speaks.
I just assume he talks like James May.
Yeah, James May’s accent probably turned up about one notch in stuffiness given Jason’s more “high status”, but basically I’d say so. James May’s mouth would barely be able to form the word “innit”, let alone utter it without twisting in pure revulsion as he performed an involuntary full-body shudder, which illustrates amply the fact that Jason would, similarly, never utter it without having to shift his entire accent. If what’s being shown in-comic is that he’s totally dropped the “proper” RP for his real rough-and-ready accent, to show he’s putting on a facade, or something, then fine- if not, just jarring, unfortunately. But not the end of the world- just interesting to wonder about!
I found video of him saying it. Deadpan. You’re not far off!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FW5gtGnSEo8
Hahaha, that was even better
Jason is the latest AI prototype of Chesterfield Industries. They are working on a project to restore Britishness to the UK by repopulating it with AI-powered clones infused with Bond-esque traits, but they ain’t there yet.
I am 100% convinced Jason isn’t really British. No one is this British. Definitely not the queen (who should be considered German by the standards of the nationalists). It’s very possible that Willis is just having fun making him a stereotype though. In which case, we are both getting something out of this.
At first I read that as “no one is British” and I kind of like that better. Like, come on, do you really think British people are real? “Britain” is just a few empty buildings that they take photos of and occasionally fly people out to look at so they can keep up the charade. British accents are just the by-product of the memory-erasure that they do on people who see what’s ACTUALLY happening on that island.
Yeah. The world is flat, obviously. The “northern hemisphere” doesn’t really exist. All those people who pretend to have been to “New York” and “London” are actors paid by the globe=makers’ conspiracy.
oh my god I knew I didn’t exist
Seattle can’t be a real place I KNEW IT
I just assumed Jason used ‘innit’ as a joke.
Let’s say both wins this incredibly high stakes clashes of wits.
https://i.imgur.com/jNFxfUF.png (NSFW)
https://i.imgur.com/FETxss4.png (NSFW)
alrighty here we go! Gonna be honest I’m nervous about this going forward. Good ol’ yoto isn’t all that good at drawing like…sex an junk.
Story so far…
https://imgur.com/a/9Ob1cy3 (NSFW)
That’s sexy and all, but super easy to accidentally make the condom not actually do it’s job putting it on like that.
But not in sexy comic land. In sexy comic land the condom always goes on correctly the first time unless the artist likes the no condom sex better
Good ol’ yoto has never put on a condom so I legit didn’t know. The act of putting on a condom looks weird and awkward to me. It just makes sense to me that these characters would wear one.
I certainly hope you’ve never put one on because your partner always did it for you as part of the preliminary activities.
Some people just like it raw. It’s not like, a moral imperative or nothin’. Also some people just haven’t had an occasion to use one, by choice or otherwise.
Condom isn’t a moral imperative?
Maybe I understood it wrongly but I wouldn’t suggest it’s a YMMV thing, whatever test or faith you are presented, it’s just better to assume that a raw first time is at least partly a peer pressured consent, so not a consent.
Also I thought condom use was part of sex ed, but I guess sex ed can vary…
Disagree hard. Consenting adults can consent to risky behavior, so long as everyone is on board before clothes come off.
Yes, if Walky had whined/complained about it, that’s not good behavior. If Billy had jumped him against his protests, that’s not good behavior. But if Walky was out, and Billy was on board with risking it, then that’s not bad, or morally reprehensible, or akin to non-consensual behavior.
Got it. Not wearing a condom makes sex non-consentual. Sure, that makes perfect sense. Speak plainly, Ascian. I’m tired of solving riddles over simple things like this.
I don’t know what ascian means.
I don’t how it is a riddle, I’m just not a native english speaker, that may be that.
Also you distort what I say:
FIRST TIME, it is non consensual – not the sex mind you, but the choice of wearing a condom or not. Unless you think pushovers can’t have sex.
Naw I’ve never put on a condom cuz Good ol’ Yoto’s a virgin.
Is there an American equivalent of the term “posh wank”?
Yeah, we call it “wasting a condom”. Those things ain’t cheap, just use a paper towel or somethin’ if you’re flyin’ solo.
I know they’re not cheap. That’s where the “posh” part comes in.
Oh, I thought it was a fancy wank.
@ Yotomoe: Stand proud, brother.
Hum, looks like it didn’t like my post the first time, so let’s see if it works better rehosted to imgur. From an old condom PSA featuring Death and Constantine: https://i.imgur.com/lKfwyOm.jpg
It is a very common method, though.
Walky’s face in that first one! 🤩
Billy’s vulnerability in the 3rd of last one is 🥰
My thoughts are similar to yours, alien.
Of course you’re WINNING, Carla, you’re a motherfucking goddess. All you DO is win.
All she does Win, win, win, no matter what.
win.exe
I, for the life of me, should and could not picture as a TikTok teen. However, put him into a “Rich Kid” environment and he might look like one without even trying
oh my god I called something kind of
I’ll take it, I’ve never come that close before
I legit think Carla already forgot about the Joyce thing.
I can see that. She has a pretty short attention span for anything not directly involving herself, plus she more likes being obnoxious in the moment than actively instigating conflict for people.
Yeah leaving her alone is the best solution. She’ll get distracted by something else and Bam! Problem solved.
Mission Failed Successfully
ten years from now:
“What’s TikTok?”
“It was like Vine, but with more twinks”
More intrusive data collection, anyway.
Comrade Mao is watching you.
Comrade Mao sounds creepy.
Comrade Mao murdered millions and was on his way to erasing his country’s culture and history so that’s accurate.
World leaders over here like “What if I ruined everything??”
Ten years from now? I’m asking it right now.
It’s Twitter for the video generation.
Carla is tagged, does that mean Ultra Car is an extension of her physical presence? Sounds more likely than her word balloons right.
Tags seem to be awarded to souls, not bodies.
Man, this comic started before Vine was even created and now it’s referencing TikTok Teens. Time’s arrow really marches on, huh?
Fruit flies like a banana.
Well done!
Banana well done and over easy!
Galaxy brain right there
Jason is a genius! Of Carla’s pride make her kinda stupid…
Clown on clown violence
I am beginning to suspect that Jason is secretly very working class, based on that in general only social climbers use “posh words” because the upper classes don’t need to use language to show their status.
Oh no, a nouveau riche
Not at all impossible for a “cruel captain of industry” to have come from working class roots. Perhaps rare, but not impossible.
If his dad was noveau riche, that could explain both the posh front and the apparent swap to a lower class dialect.
But a certain type of upper class people do use those words because it’s part of the whole “image”.
It’s a bit like how both upper and working class people are more likely to give their kids unusual names, or regular names with unusual spellings, whereas middle-class people are more likely to go with “James”.
As a general observation, this makes sense. But I’ve come across a few middle-class people giving their kids unusual names. The one I remember: a kid called Oceann. Honestly, it struck me as a cool name, but if I were the parent I’d just spell it Ocean.
Also, my (lower middle class) parents gave me the name Kirsten, which is at least mildly weird since we’re not Norwegian or Danish (they just liked that version better than Christine).
I dated someone named Ocean. Even with the normal spelling it was a strange name.
I sea.
LOL
The balance between “giving a kid a cool name” and “trying to make sure they’re not bullied at school” is really hard. It took us over two weeks to come up with a name for our baby. And there weeks to come up with a name for the cat.
(I tend to err on the side of caution. Giving a kid a cool name brings with it a lot of pressure, as they have to be cool enough to live up to it. And hey, if they want a cooler name when they’re older they can always change it.)
I honestly wouldn’t clock “Kirsten” as being an unusual name.
Ohhhh my god, yes. I love this!
Characters realizing mid-bit that they can solve their problems by disengaging is such a rarely used tool in storytelling. I get that it’s rarely used because it short circuits conflict, which kinda by definition makes the story worse, but man I cannot lie – I love it anyway.
Reading these comments there is a lot of use of she/her in relation to Carla. I thought it was they/them for that character?
Carla’s trans and her pronouns are she/her.
You might be thinking of Malaya, who goes by she/them.
Or Booster, who is They/Them.
Reading the comic, you’ll see a lot of she/her as well. There’s a reason for that.
I like his way of thinking
The heck is a tiktok teen?
A teenager who has eaten the Toki Toki no Mi and become a power user with the ability to jump forward in time by a seemingly unlimited amount, with the caveat that they cannot go backward.
They better evacuate the Uni if Oden and Kaido are going to have a fight here.
I love this comment so much lmfao
Good God, was she this arrogant before she transitioned as well?
Yes, she was every bit as arrogant when she was a car.
Better question is, why it is the first thing you asked yourself? Her transitioning wasn’t mantioned and it has literally nothing to do with her arrogance. Why point it out? Why not regard trans person as… just a person with innate character traits and flaws? For context, my partner is trans. And I do have to have these conversations IRL sometimes, telling someone that she is literally the same person that she always was. Maybe you had good intentions, but it ruffled my feathers.
I’ve never met a trans person who wasn’t just… their self, regardless of transition status. Sometimes people just have big personalities.
When I transitioned I didn’t become a whole different person, but I did feel more free to express myself. If Carla was less obnoxious before it’s probably because she was suffering from gender dysphoria and bullying, which is honestly just sad.
People deserve to be insufferable on their own terms, instead of being forced to hide it because a bunch of loudmouths with #Opinions think they don’t deserve rights. Be a menace, be the chaos the world needs.
Just stop short of being the super-villain the world needs.
Be the supervillian the world deserves?
I dont think Carla really considers people just walking away. She’s like the living embodiment of “dont feed the trolls.”
Yes, Carla, you’re definitely winning. Even when you’re losing, you’re winning somehow.
You know you’ve created a great character when she’s amazing off-screen!
Ah, a reference to one of my favorite Shakespeare plays! (Seriously, AWTAW is so underrated.)
The only one close I can find is: “All’s well that ends well”. Possible typo there?
Yeah, I meant to say AWTEW.
I’ve seen multiple posts about Shakespeare, specifically in reference to that one phrase. Is it expected to be semi-obscure or something? I thought it was a pretty common phrase, I see it in all sorts of things and people say it a lot in my area.
Title of one of his plays, innit?
A lot of common phrases tie to Shakespeare…now, whether that counts as a “reference” may be more open to interpretation.
Okay I’m actually starting to like center-panel Jason.
not gonna lie, he sounds like someone trying to justify buying a dictionary back in ’95
Lol @ the British people uncertain about Jason’s accent. This is how I feel when I’m watching Doctor Who and the “American” characters are all saying “clever” instead of “smart” or pronouncing “os” like “boss” at the end of words instead of like “most”. It’s the little details that really make it authentic, and your puzzlement is very relatable.
… do Americans not say “clever”?
Americans do not use “clever” to mean “very intelligent”; rather, it usually applies to particular insights that wouldn’t be routine or obvious to even the highly intelligent.
What Rotunda said – ‘clever’ is more about lateral thinking, perceptiveness, insight, wit. It’s different from ‘smart’ in the American vernacular, as ‘smart’ generally seems mostly reserved for capacity for knowledge gain/retention.
Carla wins!! Carla always wins
yknow, at first i was like “what does ruth see in jason” but now i get it. their minds work in similar ways. jason’s methods may be less violent than ruth has historically been, but their logic is the same
This appears to be a win-win resolution.