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May 12, 2026

Blood in the water

by David M Willis on January 27, 2025 at 12:01 am
  • 02 – The One Where Jocelyne Returns
└ Tags: jennifer, ruth

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  1. Jen Aside
    Jen Aside
    January 27, 2025 at 12:01 am | #

    Zero hesitation!

    speaking wonders of Jason

    • Rose by Any other Name
      Rose by Any other Name
      January 27, 2025 at 12:07 am | #

      Ruth: “Honestly, any excuse will do. I’d also dump him for a free pizza.”

      • Doctor_Who
        Doctor_Who
        January 27, 2025 at 12:12 am | #

        Jennifer’s down a boyfriend, she can afford pizza, maybe they’ll just make a trade.

        Be hilarious to see Jason’s reaction to that.

        • Rose by Any other Name
          Rose by Any other Name
          January 27, 2025 at 12:14 am | #

          It would be.
          It would be even more hilarious to see Jennifer dating Jason. They would be so awful together.
          I love this idea.

          • Reltzik
            Reltzik
            January 27, 2025 at 12:17 am | #

            Polycule! Polycule! Polycule!

            • VicMortimer
              VicMortimer
              January 27, 2025 at 8:37 am | #

              I know, right?

              Seems like the obvious choice. And it would be good for all of them.

              Oh, right. It would be good for all of them. Willis would never do it.

              • Wilde
                Wilde
                January 27, 2025 at 10:45 am | #

                These three are all fucked up, and I don’t think together they will be MORE functional than two of them. Jennifer hasn’t shown interest or willingness to grow or communicate in healthy ways, so there are few poly dynamics I can see her working with.

                Now, if by “better” you mean more entertaining to watch for us trash goblins in the comments, I 100% agree.

                • Reltzik
                  Reltzik
                  January 27, 2025 at 12:54 pm | #

                  I also 100% agree!

            • Stephen Nedland
              Stephen Nedland
              January 27, 2025 at 9:11 am | #

              Oh hell yes! I keep trying to will it into existence, with Joe/Joyce/Dorothy, but I’ll take Ruth/Jennifer/Jason.

          • Thag Simmons
            Thag Simmons
            January 27, 2025 at 12:20 am | #

            They wouldn’t even last a day

            • Lilith Rose
              Lilith Rose
              January 27, 2025 at 12:41 am | #

              Oh, they’d last indefinately if it were presented as a one-upmanship of who could stay the longest without breaking up.

              “We all know this is a horrible idea… but we’re all horrible people. Anyone hooking up with us is making a horrible mistake. But can we prove our superiority to anyone else who would hook up with us? The challenge is how well can each of us make even a bad idea work. The first one to cry uncle and break up is inferior to the others, and we form this pact ahead of time, knowing the one who breaks up first will always be the inferior of the other two.”

              If this preceded the relationships, it would be the most stable triad polycule ever.

              • Michael Steamweed
                Michael Steamweed
                January 27, 2025 at 9:12 am | #

                This is a _horrible_ idea. The suffering! The sex!

                *gets chips and popcorn ready

              • AnonGrouch
                AnonGrouch
                January 27, 2025 at 10:41 am | #

                Making the polycule an act of competition is the single most ‘them’ shipping possible. I say do it because God that would be hilarious to read.

              • Matthew Davis
                Matthew Davis
                January 29, 2025 at 12:36 am | #

                Meanwhile Amber, over in the corner, looking at her phone: “Look, I know I said the roof is where you can be garbage, but there has to be _some_ standards.”

    • Proxiehunter
      Proxiehunter
      January 27, 2025 at 12:10 am | #

      Does he have much going for him aside from a British accent and (according to Sal at least) a dick the size of a pint glass?

      • Nullset
        Nullset
        January 27, 2025 at 1:24 am | #

        Access to the bar.

      • justin8448
        justin8448
        January 27, 2025 at 2:10 am | #

        He is, in fact, tall. Some people (Sal) are apparently into that.

        • Gilthwixt
          Gilthwixt
          January 27, 2025 at 10:12 am | #

          Some people win the genetic lottery and still manage to lose at everything. It’s quite sad, really.

      • Francoinblanco
        Francoinblanco
        January 27, 2025 at 3:38 am | #

        They bonded over problems with their influential family

      • zee
        zee
        January 27, 2025 at 7:14 am | #

        Some sexy ass eyebrows

        • Wizard
          Wizard
          January 27, 2025 at 7:18 pm | #

          I think a little more punctuation might help, because now I’m picturing “ass eyebrows” and they’re not sexy at all. Or maybe it’s just me.

      • GoblinBagsSumo
        GoblinBagsSumo
        January 27, 2025 at 5:24 pm | #

        …Intelligent?

    • GoodbyBallad
      GoodbyBallad
      January 27, 2025 at 6:50 am | #

      The new (ish?) profile pic disturbs me. Congratulations.

      Also, I don’t really think this is Jason’s fault.

      • Michael Steamweed
        Michael Steamweed
        January 27, 2025 at 9:14 am | #

        Good eye. Just saw it. Oh gods. :O

        • clif
          clif
          January 27, 2025 at 2:24 pm | #

          I have no idea what y’all are talking about, but I have decided to believe that Mike’s profile pic has just mysteriously reappeared in the supporting characters.

          • Michael Steamweed
            Michael Steamweed
            January 27, 2025 at 8:20 pm | #

            Professor Brock making out with Professor Brock.

            • clif
              clif
              January 28, 2025 at 11:09 am | #

              Okay. That probably meets some definition of disturbing.

    • staszu13
      staszu13
      January 27, 2025 at 12:18 pm | #

      Jason likes Sal. He seems to have a thing for doomed relationships

  2. Lingo
    Lingo
    January 27, 2025 at 12:02 am | #

    Happy Dumbing Day 2025! Dumbing Day is celebrated on any real-life dates that happen to correspond to the current in-story date of DoA, one of which is (probably) today, January 27!

    Tradition demands that you celebrate Dumbing Day by doing something the characters did since last D-Day (1/23/24). So this year, why don’t you sing karaoke, fuck your trauma, drunkenly suggest watching your “platonic” best friend have sex, steal booze just to prove a point, defuse a party emergency and get laid, literally hide your boyfriend in the closet, plan your “platonic” best friend’s not-quite-sex acts, clothesline a costumed dumbass, send titty pictures to your “platonic” best friend, carve the shape of yourself into the surface of an unhinged, unfair world, or touch a penis?

    • Lingo
      Lingo
      January 27, 2025 at 12:09 am | #

      If those suggestions are too intimidating, here are some more: Start using some fucking profanity, practice destigmatizing physical contact, wash a friend’s bedsheets, cook your girlfriend some mac & cheese, sneak into a bar while underaged, get drunk for the first time, masturbate in the shower, try to get your students to write your class textbook, break your frenemy’s video-game record with your bad hand, talk to a rhyming cartoon character on a poster, unintentionally break into a bank vault, draw naked people, come out as transgender, or declare yourself nobody’s mama!

      • Yumi
        Yumi
        January 27, 2025 at 12:11 am | #

        Okay, these include some more manageable suggestions– was getting worried with the first list, though by the end I think there were some I could pull off.
        But also could I go with going on a coffee date with someone?

        • Lingo
          Lingo
          January 27, 2025 at 12:19 am | #

          Yep, anything they did! I just think my suggestions are funnier 😀

          • Yumi
            Yumi
            January 27, 2025 at 12:37 am | #

            Actually, I think I’m going to go with “wear dinosaur themed clothes.” I’ll awkwardly layer other things with it sk I’m not too cold in a short-sleeved shirt.

      • NGPZ
        NGPZ
        January 27, 2025 at 12:43 am | #

        alright then

        “I ain’t NOBODY’S mama” XD

      • Michael Steamweed
        Michael Steamweed
        January 27, 2025 at 9:16 am | #

        Well, I can do four of both those lists. The rest either aren’t feasible or are ill-advised.

      • Kazuma Taichi
        Kazuma Taichi
        January 27, 2025 at 7:47 pm | #

        well dang it, I already played the egg-cracking card so that’s one’s not on the table

    • HueSatLight
      HueSatLight
      January 27, 2025 at 12:14 am | #

      Look up your first crush on facebook. A nice time of not feeling mortified for any of dozens of reasons.

      • Lingo
        Lingo
        January 27, 2025 at 12:20 am | #

        Ding!

    • pixiekhatt
      pixiekhatt
      January 27, 2025 at 12:24 am | #

      I didn’t realize that we’ve been basically observing 4-5 days of story (minus time skips) in a year of our time. At this rate, we’ll be finished in… a couple decades? Assuming there will be some more time skips and that we’ve gone through a quarter of the story so far…

      • Lingo
        Lingo
        January 27, 2025 at 12:38 am | #

        Two decades would place us in about mid-April at this rate!

    • Forte Issimo
      Forte Issimo
      January 27, 2025 at 12:28 am | #

      … I’m a freshman. At this rate I’m going to be finished with my undergrad before they’re finished with their second semester.

      • Lingo
        Lingo
        January 27, 2025 at 12:34 am | #

        Pretty sure Willis has said that never finishing the freshman year is the plan.

        • Needfuldoer
          Needfuldoer
          January 27, 2025 at 6:34 am | #

          It took a real decade for about two months to elapse in-universe. (At one point I figured real time and DoA time average around 66:1, so two months for us is one day for the characters.)

          At that pace, even if there’s a big time skip every 10 real years, freshman year will last for the foreseeable future.

    • NGPZ
      NGPZ
      January 27, 2025 at 12:31 am | #

      what would count towards “carve the shape of yourself into the surface of an unhinged, unfair world”?

      could one hypothetically do this by making a video game?

      *and no, that ain’t a metaphor for masturbating XD

      • Lingo
        Lingo
        January 27, 2025 at 12:37 am | #

        I’m not sure. Ask Jocelyne, I guess!

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        January 27, 2025 at 6:35 am | #

        You know that kid’s game where somebody lays on the ground and you trace around them with sidewalk chalk?

        It’s like that but you use a chisel instead of chalk.

    • Charlotte
      Charlotte
      January 27, 2025 at 2:42 am | #

      I really didn’t think it was only 4 days! I’m stunned.

    • Forvisk
      Forvisk
      January 27, 2025 at 7:05 am | #

      I’m going to buy a Transformers toy them. Thanks, i needed a reason to.

    • Bruno
      Bruno
      January 27, 2025 at 7:05 am | #

      Hang on, I’m kind of caught up on the fact that they’re only four days apart.

      • Bruno
        Bruno
        January 27, 2025 at 1:09 pm | #

        blowjob cat no

    • zee
      zee
      January 27, 2025 at 7:17 am | #

      Lucy’s a part timer did she go to work at any point in the last year? Cuz I can do that

    • ValdVin
      ValdVin
      January 27, 2025 at 7:42 am | #

      Thanks for putting this out for us. I’ve been waiting for DofA to get to something like Valentine’s Day salon since the January semester started and never knew when it might happen.

      My nephews are almost Willis’ age. I have no idea if I’ll see the end of the IU school year.

      • HueSatLight
        HueSatLight
        January 27, 2025 at 5:49 pm | #

        I hope they have an “in case sun goes out” switch to unlock the whole buffer. Give me something to do while the world takes a few days to end.

    • EtchJetty
      EtchJetty
      January 27, 2025 at 8:43 am | #

      I think taking estrogen counts as “carving the shape of [my]self into the surface of an unhinged, unfair world”. So I’ll do that tonight! Happy Dumbing Day.

      • Morleuca
        Morleuca
        January 27, 2025 at 5:02 pm | #

        thank you for the reminder

  3. pickonecard
    pickonecard
    January 27, 2025 at 12:02 am | #

    Billie, she’s Being Nice To You.

    • James
      James
      January 27, 2025 at 12:06 am | #

      Sounds fake

    • Jeremiah
      Jeremiah
      January 27, 2025 at 12:06 am | #

      “Sounds fake but okay”

    • Insanenoodlyguy
      Insanenoodlyguy
      January 27, 2025 at 1:07 am | #

      Billie doesn’t like herself! Billie, don’t let her get away with being nice to the Bongo!

  4. MK15
    MK15
    January 27, 2025 at 12:03 am | #

    I think I can put my distaste for Jennifer aside to “aww” at this!

    • Thag Simmons
      Thag Simmons
      January 27, 2025 at 12:19 am | #

      I don’t know if that’s the proper reaction to this

      • GholaHalleck
        GholaHalleck
        January 27, 2025 at 1:14 am | #

        God right? Even Ruth deserves better then to be Jennifer’s silver medal.

      • Clif
        Clif
        January 27, 2025 at 1:56 am | #

        I’m not sure what the proper reaction is. I’m not sure Jennifer knows.

        But if I had the look-one-day-ahead patron option, today is the day I would use it.

        • Clif
          Clif
          January 27, 2025 at 1:59 am | #

          Who are we kidding. Tomorrow is going to cut back to the elevator.

          • Wraithy2773
            Wraithy2773
            January 27, 2025 at 3:06 am | #

            Steve’s got some cereal to eat, that’s for sure.

            • Michael Steamweed
              Michael Steamweed
              January 27, 2025 at 9:18 am | #

              Steve’s getting hungry; he hasn’t had cereal in a while.

      • Mturtle7
        Mturtle7
        January 27, 2025 at 3:17 pm | #

        For a number of reasons, one of which is that Ruth was the one who dumped Jennifer in the first place! Like, there are plenty of other reasons, but that one kinda stands out to me and I’m surprised more people aren’t mentioning it.

        • poofdepoof
          poofdepoof
          January 27, 2025 at 7:09 pm | #

          first thing I thought of as well

  5. Dante
    Dante
    January 27, 2025 at 12:03 am | #

    EXQUISITE TOXICITY. Zero hesitation, no regrets.

    • Clif
      Clif
      January 27, 2025 at 2:00 am | #

      YES!!!

      • Clif
        Clif
        January 27, 2025 at 2:28 am | #

        Also, have you noticed how Jenifer is occasionally accidentally right about the things she says? https://www.dumbingofage.com/2025/comic/book-15/02-the-one-where-jocelyne-returns/coincidence-2/

        • Michael Steamweed
          Michael Steamweed
          January 27, 2025 at 9:20 am | #

          Why, yes, Joyce does pull, actually.

          (joe affirms this)

        • Dante
          Dante
          January 28, 2025 at 12:45 am | #

          [Cackles]

          She’s only ever right when it’s an accident, or when she doesn’t wanna :’33

  6. Nono
    Nono
    January 27, 2025 at 12:03 am | #

    Man I wish Ruth wasn’t so relatable right now.

    (Well except the part where she currently is dating someone, but they may be for the best.)

  7. Ray Radlein
    Ray Radlein
    January 27, 2025 at 12:03 am | #

    Don’t ask a question you don’t want to hear the answer to

    • Wendy
      Wendy
      January 27, 2025 at 12:03 am | #

      Words to live by, for real.

    • Proxiehunter
      Proxiehunter
      January 27, 2025 at 12:14 am | #

      Especially don’t ask a question if either answer is going to upset you. I don’t think “No” would have gone over any better.

    • Clif
      Clif
      January 27, 2025 at 1:32 am | #

      Thank you for saying this so that I didn’t have to.

  8. Wendy
    Wendy
    January 27, 2025 at 12:03 am | #

    Ruth has plenty of flaws, sure, but lack of self-awareness is clearly not one of them.

    • justin8448
      justin8448
      January 27, 2025 at 2:17 am | #

      Ruth is painfully, excruciatingly aware.

    • Mturtle7
      Mturtle7
      January 27, 2025 at 3:11 pm | #

      I suspect that she is VERY self-aware about everything about herself that she would consider negative and self-deprecating! But she might have some trouble being aware of anything else. Just a thought.

  9. RacingTurtle
    RacingTurtle
    January 27, 2025 at 12:03 am | #

    They are terrible and I love them, your honor <3

    • Reb
      Reb
      January 27, 2025 at 9:32 am | #

      I welcome the return of my toxic college lesbian-couple (I know they’re both bisexual).

  10. NGPZ
    NGPZ
    January 27, 2025 at 12:03 am | #

    CoolioAhhHereItGoes.gif

  11. Kyrik Michalowski
    Kyrik Michalowski
    January 27, 2025 at 12:03 am | #

    Billie/Jennifer continues to amaze me with how shitty a person she can be.

    Who would want to get together with her? Ruth feels like the only person who would.

    • Kyrik Michalowski
      Kyrik Michalowski
      January 27, 2025 at 12:04 am | #

      Time to roll.

      • Kyrik Michalowski
        Kyrik Michalowski
        January 27, 2025 at 12:04 am | #

        Nope

        • Kyrik Michalowski
          Kyrik Michalowski
          January 27, 2025 at 12:05 am | #

          Also no.

          • Kyrik Michalowski
            Kyrik Michalowski
            January 27, 2025 at 12:06 am | #

            Losing faith I’ll ever find Sal.

            • Kyrik Michalowski
              Kyrik Michalowski
              January 27, 2025 at 12:07 am | #

              I might have to roll in yesterday’s comic so people don’t have to scroll through all my attempts.

              • EpochFlame
                EpochFlame
                January 27, 2025 at 12:12 am | #

                couldn’t you just use sal as a gravatar or does that spoil the fun

                • Kyrik Michalowski
                  Kyrik Michalowski
                  January 27, 2025 at 12:13 am | #

                  That would spoil the fun; it is low stakes gambling.

              • Adam Black
                Adam Black
                January 27, 2025 at 12:15 am | #

                hmm

              • Clif
                Clif
                January 27, 2025 at 1:36 am | #

                Roll in yesterday’s comic? Who would do that? https://www.dumbingofage.com/2025/comic/book-15/02-the-one-where-jocelyne-returns/blast/#comment-1849021

                • Michael Steamweed
                  Michael Steamweed
                  January 27, 2025 at 9:22 am | #

                  Ahh, so you’re the reason why Willis cuts off comments in back issues at some point.

            • Rose by Any other Name
              Rose by Any other Name
              January 27, 2025 at 12:08 am | #

              Well, at least you have a pipe now. Finding things is always easier with a pipe.

              • Rose by Any other Name
                Rose by Any other Name
                January 27, 2025 at 12:09 am | #

                Damn – wasn’t fast enough.

    • Sirksome
      Sirksome
      January 27, 2025 at 12:08 am | #

      To be fair, Ruth is also the last person who has any high ground to get with Jennifer considering she’s the one who sabotaged that relationship. Jennifer regressing so much is a direct response to Ruth……Maybe they kind of deserve each other?

      Also BIG MONEY! LETS GET SAL! NO WHAMMYS! I BELIEVE IN YOU!

      • Charles Phipps
        Charles Phipps
        January 27, 2025 at 12:49 am | #

        I mean Jennifer is no longer drinking. No matter how awful she is treating people, that alone means she’s progressed.

        • Jeremiah
          Jeremiah
          January 27, 2025 at 7:33 pm | #

          Again, she already started to stop drinking before the break up, that had nothing to do with anything here.

      • Nymph
        Nymph
        January 27, 2025 at 12:04 pm | #

        [insert obligatory comment pointing out that someone’s mental state after you break up with them isn’t your fault]

        • Sirksome
          Sirksome
          January 27, 2025 at 3:22 pm | #

          True. Which is why I didn’t say that. Just that Jennifer reacted by regressing. Ruth initiated the breakup. So her being so willing to get back together is a bit hypocritical of her. Something Ruth has admitted to. My point is that they likely deserve each other because in some ways the breakup made them both worse.

          • Charles Phipps
            Charles Phipps
            January 27, 2025 at 3:49 pm | #

            Did they? Both seem non-suicidal. I think at the very least they’re both better off mentally away from one another.

            • Yumi
              Yumi
              January 27, 2025 at 5:10 pm | #

              But they also didn’t seem suicidal by the end of their relationship with each other.

  12. Sirksome
    Sirksome
    January 27, 2025 at 12:04 am | #

    I don’t like them much as a couple but I also hate Jason and want him to suffer so this is a tough choice for me.

    • Kyrik Michalowski
      Kyrik Michalowski
      January 27, 2025 at 12:05 am | #

      Why do you hate Jason?

      • Sirksome
        Sirksome
        January 27, 2025 at 12:13 am | #

        He’s a tool and pretty self absorbed, and he treated Sal less than as kind as she deserved and that’s without even factoring in the problematic sex stuff. He was also just kind of bad at his job.

      • John Campbell
        John Campbell
        January 27, 2025 at 12:24 am | #

        Basically all he’s done in the comic is fuck one of his students, get fired for fucking one of his students, and be a condescending douche.

      • HueSatLight
        HueSatLight
        January 27, 2025 at 12:51 am | #

        He’s an ass and all, but I just don’t like him for no particular reason.

    • HueSatLight
      HueSatLight
      January 27, 2025 at 12:07 am | #

      The ultimate dilemma.

  13. Ray
    Ray
    January 27, 2025 at 12:04 am | #

    Bonus points for unexpected honesty

    • Clif
      Clif
      January 27, 2025 at 1:41 am | #

      Beautiful whiplash in the last panel.

    • Confused Cat
      Confused Cat
      January 27, 2025 at 7:12 am | #

      “Unexpected honesty” is exactly what I wanted to comment on this.

  14. Davus
    Davus
    January 27, 2025 at 12:05 am | #

    I don’t know if Ruth would even have to drop the boyfriend, depending on Jennifer (and her boyfriend, ofc.)

    • Nymph
      Nymph
      January 27, 2025 at 3:55 am | #

      Jennifer doesn’t have a boyfriend though?

      • Thomas
        Thomas
        January 27, 2025 at 9:48 am | #

        Yes, but is she aware that her relationship status has changed?

        • NGPZ
          NGPZ
          January 27, 2025 at 1:13 pm | #

          She thinks/needs Asher to come crawling back to her, she thinks it’s a game 9_9

      • Aura
        Aura
        January 27, 2025 at 5:12 pm | #

        I think ‘her boyfriend’ there is referring to ‘Ruth’s boyfriend’, not ‘Jennifer’s boyfriend’ 🙂

  15. Opus the Poet
    Opus the Poet
    January 27, 2025 at 12:05 am | #

    There is still an interest there, in both directions.

  16. Jeremiah
    Jeremiah
    January 27, 2025 at 12:05 am | #

    Jennifer wasn’t ready for honesty!

    • Yumi
      Yumi
      January 27, 2025 at 12:08 am | #

      She was so prepared for denial and an argument

      • Clif
        Clif
        January 27, 2025 at 2:02 am | #

        She could still salvage an argument.

    • DashWallkick
      DashWallkick
      January 27, 2025 at 11:41 am | #

      Ruth channeling Mike right now by seeing Jen say something hoping for conflict she could juice some gratification out of, and she’s utterly denied it because this arc is about bashing Jennifer over the head with “this is not going to get better until you look in a mirror.”

      FWIW I hope she never does, her mental spiral is deeply entertaining.

  17. Dana
    Dana
    January 27, 2025 at 12:05 am | #

    My ship is coming in!

    • Rose by Any other Name
      Rose by Any other Name
      January 27, 2025 at 12:10 am | #

      Damned but unbroken. Let’s, as the other 40 years old say, fucking go.

    • Clif
      Clif
      January 27, 2025 at 2:03 am | #

      Is it?

  18. DailyBrad
    DailyBrad
    January 27, 2025 at 12:08 am | #

    Kudos to Ruth for being honest, but man, you made your bed, Ruth.

    I wonder where it goes from here.

    • Arianod
      Arianod
      January 27, 2025 at 3:18 am | #

      You just said it yourself!

    • Nymph
      Nymph
      January 27, 2025 at 3:54 am | #

      I mean, she didn’t bring it up and she isn’t pushing for it.

  19. chaostails7
    chaostails7
    January 27, 2025 at 12:09 am | #

    Oh boy. I bet that’s super uncomfortable

  20. Chaucer59
    Chaucer59
    January 27, 2025 at 12:11 am | #

    An utterly snark-free declaration of desire? Does not compute! Data fails to process in customary channels. Scanning for sardonic wit—negative. Scanning for passive aggressive countermeasures—negative. Scanning for double entendre—negative. Complete Taming of the Shrew metafailure. Does not compute. Danger Willis Robinson. Danger.

  21. RassilonTDavros
    RassilonTDavros
    January 27, 2025 at 12:12 am | #

    Oh no, I’m feeling hope again, my one weakness

    • Clif
      Clif
      January 27, 2025 at 1:42 am | #

      Damn you Willis.

      I know you’re toying with us and yet….

    • Yarrr
      Yarrr
      January 27, 2025 at 4:36 am | #

      They could still get together and split up again!

      • Michael Steamweed
        Michael Steamweed
        January 27, 2025 at 9:25 am | #

        And The Breakup Pt2 could involve high explosives. Much better than last time.

  22. Yumi
    Yumi
    January 27, 2025 at 12:13 am | #

    Part of me wants to be like “oof, poor Jason,” but I ultimately do not care enough to really mean it.

    • Clif
      Clif
      January 27, 2025 at 2:04 am | #

      Jason will be alright. He has Walky to coach him through.

      • Nymph
        Nymph
        January 27, 2025 at 12:06 pm | #

        Yeah, he’ll find another 18/19yo to cross lines with soon enough.

  23. Joe Moose
    Joe Moose
    January 27, 2025 at 12:14 am | #

    Remarkable how quick that was

  24. StClair
    StClair
    January 27, 2025 at 12:15 am | #

    Too much truth.

  25. Smooti
    Smooti
    January 27, 2025 at 12:18 am | #

    Love how they’re still somehow the messiest couple despite having been broken up for months. Hate to see Jennifer Jennifering but damn their dynamic compels me so

  26. Reltzik
    Reltzik
    January 27, 2025 at 12:18 am | #

    I halfway suspects that Jason knows this already.

    • Michael Steamweed
      Michael Steamweed
      January 27, 2025 at 9:27 am | #

      He is happy to say yes to the sex without any other demands on him.

    • Mturtle7
      Mturtle7
      January 27, 2025 at 3:24 pm | #

      See, I’d LIKE to think this, but I’m also very very worried that Jason is much, much, too full of Ye Olde British Repression to actually be aware that this is just a casual fling/sub-dom playtime for both of them. He is not the most self-aware guy, to put it mildly.

  27. BBCC
    BBCC
    January 27, 2025 at 12:20 am | #

    Ooof. Just….oof. Sweetie.

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      January 27, 2025 at 12:20 am | #

      No. We do not have blowjob cat gravs in this account.

      • Sirksome
        Sirksome
        January 27, 2025 at 12:25 am | #

        BJ cat seems pretty common in the reroll. I wonder what some of the rarer ones are? Sal seems pretty hard to find or most people rolling for her are just unlucky.

        • Nono
          Nono
          January 27, 2025 at 12:27 am | #

          I haven’t really seen an Asher yet I think.

          • clif
            clif
            January 27, 2025 at 12:37 pm | #

            Oh, no. He’s there.

            • clif
              clif
              January 27, 2025 at 12:40 pm | #

              Er, there.

              Fumble fingers on the tablet.

              • Clif
                Clif
                January 27, 2025 at 12:46 pm | #

                I have a bad feeling about this.

                • Clif
                  Clif
                  January 27, 2025 at 12:48 pm | #

                  No apparently I just can’t type on the tablet.

                  Either that or I keep lousy notes.

                • Clif
                  Clif
                  January 27, 2025 at 12:52 pm | #

                  Or I keep jumping universes. We can’t rule that out.

                  No, I really can’t type on the tablet. Assuming this is Asher. Otherwise it’s a Damn You Willis situation.

                • Clif
                  Clif
                  January 27, 2025 at 12:53 pm | #

                  Yay!

        • HueSatLight
          HueSatLight
          January 27, 2025 at 3:48 pm | #

          I’d bet they’re all 1/36 chance. Except the super-rare Arnold.

      • SocietyPilled
        SocietyPilled
        January 27, 2025 at 12:41 am | #

        Wait how are you rerolling?

        • Yumi
          Yumi
          January 27, 2025 at 12:44 am | #

          Change the capitalization of your email address in the box for it. Differently capitalized versions of the same email will each roll for a Gravatar from the pool.

          • SocietyPilled
            SocietyPilled
            January 27, 2025 at 1:41 am | #

            Waow

          • Michael Steamweed
            Michael Steamweed
            January 27, 2025 at 9:28 am | #

            Attempt #1.

  28. ian livs
    ian livs
    January 27, 2025 at 12:20 am | #

    Genuinely break up with him if you feel that way, that’s not good for any parties involved

    but also: toxic yuri toxic yuri toxic yuri

    • Doopyboop
      Doopyboop
      January 27, 2025 at 12:27 am | #

      Agreed, I was actually about to write my own comment about this. If that’s all it takes to break up with him, why even date him?

      • Yumi
        Yumi
        January 27, 2025 at 12:32 am | #

        I think it depends on what his understanding of the relationship is. If it’s similar to hers, and they’re aware of where they stand, then it’s fine. If he thinks they’re really trying to build a bond or something, though, then yes, end it.

        • Doopyboop
          Doopyboop
          January 27, 2025 at 1:16 am | #

          It’s hard to gauge exactly but I think Jason does know Ruth is hung up on Jennifer (and they’ve both addressed that) and he still wants to date her. She has enough interest in him that she wanted to help him become a TA again so he wouldn’t feel pressured to be with her or feel like there’s any weird power dynamics between them. So I honestly can’t say for sure if they’re both actually trying to build a relationship together or if they’re both just… keeping each other occupied?

          My ace ass could NEVER.

          • ian livs
            ian livs
            January 27, 2025 at 1:02 pm | #

            ^Same. Maybe I’m just way, way too demi for this.

            Like, I’ve been in a straight-up FWB relationship (okay, it eventually evolved into dating) but while I *get* that companionship is better than being miserable by yourself, whatever’s going on here… just bewilders me, lmao

      • Regret
        Regret
        January 27, 2025 at 1:50 am | #

        Because sex is more fun than crying yourself to sleep. And if you’re honest about what you both expect out of it, there’s nothing wrong with that.

        • Doopyboop
          Doopyboop
          January 27, 2025 at 1:55 am | #

          Couldn’t be me.

      • Nymph
        Nymph
        January 27, 2025 at 3:51 am | #

        There’s nothing wrong with having relationships that aren’t meant to be forever. Nothing wrong with having a little fun together that doesn’t mean anything.

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          January 27, 2025 at 7:49 am | #

          There’s a difference between “aren’t meant to be forever” and “would drop for your ex in a heartbeat.”

          • Taffy
            Taffy
            January 27, 2025 at 11:20 am | #

            Yeah, one is hotter.

            • Sirksome
              Sirksome
              January 27, 2025 at 3:28 pm | #

              Yo! Sweet Dino (aka masc presenting Dina) grav!

          • Nymph
            Nymph
            January 27, 2025 at 12:09 pm | #

            In the sense that squares and rectangles are different, sure. That’d be why I included the “having fun together that doesn’t mean anything” part to be more clear.

    • morhek
      morhek
      January 27, 2025 at 12:29 am | #

      Aren’t the only together because he needs a Green Card?

      • Doopyboop
        Doopyboop
        January 27, 2025 at 12:31 am | #

        Well not really, because they’re neither married nor engaged to be married. He also seems to have secured himself a work visa by TA-ing for Robin, which Ruth did help him with. As far as I can tell, they decided to hook up out of mutual interest.

        • Mark
          Mark
          January 27, 2025 at 7:45 am | #

          Additionally, there was speculation that part of his compensation was University housing and, when he became unemployed, he also became unhoused.

          Shelter in time of need, and an attractive woman who finds him desirable? Worse deals are available.

          • Tan
            Tan
            January 27, 2025 at 2:39 pm | #

            Jason explicitly has his own place (albeit with worse heating than the dorms). See final panel of https://www.dumbingofage.com/2022/comic/book-13/02-turning-saints-into-the-sea/gettingstarted/

    • Charles Phipps
      Charles Phipps
      January 27, 2025 at 12:34 am | #

      He’s just there to avoid loneliness and he’s not even there willingly.

      I mean, she actually kidnapped him.

      • Lingo
        Lingo
        January 27, 2025 at 12:53 am | #

        So did Sal. As much as he objects, that seems to be his kink.

        • Thomas
          Thomas
          January 27, 2025 at 1:11 am | #

          The gentleman doth protest too much.

    • Slartibeast Button, BIA
      Slartibeast Button, BIA
      January 27, 2025 at 10:43 am | #

      Toxic Yuri must be be a band name already.

      • clif
        clif
        January 27, 2025 at 2:13 pm | #

        You would think.

        • clif
          clif
          January 27, 2025 at 2:16 pm | #

          But you know you want to do it anyway.

          • clif
            clif
            January 27, 2025 at 2:17 pm | #

            This reply does not go here.

      • Morleuca
        Morleuca
        January 27, 2025 at 5:33 pm | #

        https://toxicyurilovetriangle.bandcamp.com/album/toxic-yuri-love-triangle

        • Tesset
          Tesset
          January 27, 2025 at 11:48 pm | #

          Oh fuck yeah

  29. Dot
    Dot
    January 27, 2025 at 12:24 am | #

    Billie wanted a denial that she could argue with. She’s feeling insecure and seeking the comfort of that dynamic that they used to have. Instead, she gets frank honesty that could lead to a mature and emotional conversation which is the last thing she wants right now. Let’s see how she gets out of this one!

    • Lingo
      Lingo
      January 27, 2025 at 12:41 am | #

      A cunning trap!

      • StClair
        StClair
        January 27, 2025 at 12:55 am | #

        like Sarah’s hugs!

        • Clif
          Clif
          January 27, 2025 at 1:49 am | #

          Much worse.

    • Insanenoodlyguy
      Insanenoodlyguy
      January 27, 2025 at 1:11 am | #

      Oh that’s easy. “So you are just trying to come at me again, like I thought. Fuck you.” Just cause she didn’t think Ruth would admit she was right doesn’t make her any less right. With that you can easily walk away.

      • Dot
        Dot
        January 27, 2025 at 7:13 am | #

        Except Ruth clearly isn’t going after her, and Billie knows it.

    • DashWallkick
      DashWallkick
      January 27, 2025 at 1:46 am | #

      Cutting right to Ruth’s heart with a familiar bit of drama and chaos, and she gets hit with “yeah.” She did not plan on that.

    • Nymph
      Nymph
      January 27, 2025 at 3:49 am | #

      “Let’s see how she gets out of this one!”

      By sprinting, I imagine.

  30. Suet
    Suet
    January 27, 2025 at 12:26 am | #

    You miss seeing Amazi-Girl one day…

    So are they or aren’t they?

    • Clif
      Clif
      January 27, 2025 at 1:50 am | #

      Wait for it.

      • Michael Steamweed
        Michael Steamweed
        January 27, 2025 at 9:30 am | #

        Hey look it’s Amazi-Girl!

        • Clif
          Clif
          January 27, 2025 at 12:55 pm | #

          Sh!

  31. Charles Phipps
    Charles Phipps
    January 27, 2025 at 12:32 am | #

    Jennifer, I say this once, you can do better.

    She’s also back to drinking.

    • Essex
      Essex
      January 27, 2025 at 12:50 am | #

      i feel like ruth is the one who can do better, anyone can do better than jennifer

      • Thomas
        Thomas
        January 27, 2025 at 1:26 am | #

        Malaya, Mary, Raidah… are they better options than Jennifer? Deep down, Jennifer is a better person than Mary & Raidah, but she sure hasn’t shown that for a while.

        • Bittersweet
          Bittersweet
          January 28, 2025 at 7:48 am | #

          Honestly, kind of. I don’t recall any of them treating their active partners terribly bordering on/crossing the line into abuse. Mary maybe with the Halloween thing, but I don’t remember how Dudebro felt about that. They might be worse people, but I don’t know if they’re worse partners.

          I don’t want to say Jennifer’s abusive, but the crap she pulled with Asher is 100% what I would call abusive behavior if someone did it to me. I’m only not counting the Ruth stuff because it was a trainwreck all the way down and it was mutually terrible on both sides (with Ruth starting it).

      • Mturtle7
        Mturtle7
        January 27, 2025 at 3:19 pm | #

        They can both do better, that’s how mutually toxic relationships work!

    • Jeremiah
      Jeremiah
      January 27, 2025 at 1:19 am | #

      Honestly I think getting sober just highlight that the drinking was not actually Jennifer biggest flaw.

      • IntangibleMatter
        IntangibleMatter
        January 27, 2025 at 3:19 am | #

        Drinking was to Jennifer as Bojack Horseman’s childhood was to him. Has it caused some of your problems? Yes. Is it responsible for everything you keep blaming on it? God no, at some point you need to recognize that a lot of the problems are you just refusing to be a better person at the end of the day.

        • Jeremiah
          Jeremiah
          January 27, 2025 at 3:31 pm | #

          Exactly!

        • Sporky
          Sporky
          January 27, 2025 at 9:44 pm | #

          I mean, Bojack Horseman’s alcoholism ALSO fits all of your criteria. Actually he has like 5 different examples of something that caused some of his problems but ultimately didn’t absolve him of just being shitty.

  32. AGV/Ruby
    AGV/Ruby
    January 27, 2025 at 12:34 am | #

    “Honestly, what were you expecting me to say?”

    • Charles Phipps
      Charles Phipps
      January 27, 2025 at 12:35 am | #

      I am willing to bet $5 that Jennifer will say she’s in a relationship she’s not breaking up because it hasn’t sunk in that Asher has dumped her after thinking she dumped him.

  33. Josh Spicer
    Josh Spicer
    January 27, 2025 at 12:36 am | #

    Somehow Jennifer did NOT expect lol

  34. I Know Why The Mowed Lawn Screams
    I Know Why The Mowed Lawn Screams
    January 27, 2025 at 12:38 am | #

    I always knew in my heart that Ruth/Jason was never going to work out in the long run, but i will miss their toxic girlfriend/miserable little henchman dynamic once they break up 😔

    • Charles Phipps
      Charles Phipps
      January 27, 2025 at 12:50 am | #

      If Jason and Walky are not a thing, I support him and Jocelyn!

      Yes, I have a thing for crack ships (see TV tropes).

      What can I say?

      • Queezle
        Queezle
        January 27, 2025 at 7:16 am | #

        It’s a trap! If I go look this up on TV tropes, next thing I know I will have lost two hours having read useless information, mostly about media I have not read/watch and no intent to ever read/watch.

        • Clif
          Clif
          January 27, 2025 at 3:07 pm | #

          But you know you want to do it anyway.

  35. Taffy
    Taffy
    January 27, 2025 at 12:51 am | #

    Tempting, ain’t it Billie?

    • Clif
      Clif
      January 27, 2025 at 1:51 am | #

      I certainly hope so.

    • Opus the Poet
      Opus the Poet
      January 27, 2025 at 3:48 am | #

      How did you get the fantasy Dina grav?

      • Taffy
        Taffy
        January 27, 2025 at 11:19 am | #

        Willis’s Tweeter

    • Michael Steamweed
      Michael Steamweed
      January 27, 2025 at 9:33 am | #

      Ooh sexy hot Dina in suit and tie! (and retaining trademark hat)

      Becky’s swooning already.

      • Clif
        Clif
        January 27, 2025 at 3:09 pm | #

        Yes, I imagine she is as well.

  36. Pocky
    Pocky
    January 27, 2025 at 1:18 am | #

    there’s gonna be another Jason poll that the results won’t matter again, huh? lol

  37. BassBone
    BassBone
    January 27, 2025 at 1:25 am | #

    Jennifer, you’re the worst.

  38. Freezer
    Freezer
    January 27, 2025 at 1:28 am | #

    Bille’s social skills would make Dr. House say “Damn, you’re rude.”

    • NGPZ
      NGPZ
      January 27, 2025 at 2:04 pm | #

      for reals, how the FUCK does that guy even keep his license?

  39. DashWallkick
    DashWallkick
    January 27, 2025 at 1:47 am | #

    Jennifer’s complete and total refusal to admit she’s a chaotic, dramatic, insecure mess is so entertaining I can’t even put it to words.

  40. Maddie B
    Maddie B
    January 27, 2025 at 2:11 am | #

    Yes.

  41. Kyulen
    Kyulen
    January 27, 2025 at 2:13 am | #

    Much as I liked seeing them together when they were a couple, I’m not sure I’d want to see Ruth and Jennifer get back together now.

  42. 0xKruzr
    0xKruzr
    January 27, 2025 at 2:25 am | #

    poor Jason.

    • Mr. Random
      Mr. Random
      January 27, 2025 at 5:09 am | #

      I think they’re more fuck buddies than really dating, so he’d probably be fine.

      • clif
        clif
        January 27, 2025 at 12:20 pm | #

        But it’s nice to see someone pretend to be concerned about Jason.

    • Pergola
      Pergola
      January 27, 2025 at 5:54 pm | #

      I never saw anything between the two, so the hookup surprised me. ‘fuckbuddies’ probably covers it.

  43. darkoneko
    darkoneko
    January 27, 2025 at 2:30 am | #

    …. WELL

  44. Amelie Wikström
    Amelie Wikström
    January 27, 2025 at 2:35 am | #

    Speaking plainly about what you want? Showing some basic concern for your peer when she might not feel good? But how is that gonna cause any drama?

    • Jeremiah
      Jeremiah
      January 27, 2025 at 3:07 am | #

      I’m sure they find a way, I believe in them.

    • Sporky
      Sporky
      January 27, 2025 at 9:44 pm | #

      You think admitting point-blank you would leave your current significant other for an ex ISN’T gonna cause drama?

      • Amelie Wikström
        Amelie Wikström
        January 28, 2025 at 12:07 am | #

        Not according to Jennifer’s face in the last panel. I imagine if Ruth said she’d leave her husband that face would be ecstatic, but here she realizes the relationship she’s meddling in is barely anything and it takes all the wind out of her melodrama sails.

  45. bwooom
    bwooom
    January 27, 2025 at 2:40 am | #

    Let’s get them back together now that they’re totally different and see what happens. I won’t even promise that it’ll be good I’m just curious.

  46. Charlotte
    Charlotte
    January 27, 2025 at 2:44 am | #

    Genuinely surprised at the lack of hesitation!

    • Michael Steamweed
      Michael Steamweed
      January 27, 2025 at 9:35 am | #

      Ruth’s getting medication and therapy. And sex. So she’s got much less instinctive need to lie or play games.

  47. cmasta1992
    cmasta1992
    January 27, 2025 at 2:48 am | #

    Jennifer.
    Honey.
    No.

  48. IntangibleMatter
    IntangibleMatter
    January 27, 2025 at 3:15 am | #

    As someone who wants people to be in healthy relationships, this is very bad.

    As someone who ships Jennifer and Ruth, however, LET’S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  49. Sajuuk-Khar
    Sajuuk-Khar
    January 27, 2025 at 3:20 am | #

    I WILL EXPRESS SINCERE SYMPATHY FOR JASON

    • Sajuuk-Khar
      Sajuuk-Khar
      January 27, 2025 at 3:22 am | #

      fucking lmao you know what I will take Lucy saying this

  50. Rabisch
    Rabisch
    January 27, 2025 at 4:16 am | #

    Ruth, please no. You’re better than this! Come back with Jennifer will destroy all her progress.

    • Adept
      Adept
      January 27, 2025 at 7:10 am | #

      Whose progress? Jennifer / Billy is worse than ever. Ok, maybe she’s not drinking, so that’s something I guess.

      • Sol
        Sol
        January 27, 2025 at 3:22 pm | #

        She started not drinking before they broke up though, so it’s not like that was spurred by the breakup.

      • Rabisch
        Rabisch
        January 27, 2025 at 5:21 pm | #

        I know. I was talking about Ruth’s progress. Jennifer looks pretty much like a lost cause.

        • Charles Phipps
          Charles Phipps
          January 27, 2025 at 6:22 pm | #

          Jennifer was doing well until she torpedoed her relationship out of a weird desire to spice things up.

  51. Shakes
    Shakes
    January 27, 2025 at 4:19 am | #

    I’m down for this if Jennifer will get over that bi denial she’s been spouting.

  52. Dare
    Dare
    January 27, 2025 at 4:58 am | #

    Oh poor Ruth. I’ve been her.

    (Fortunately for everyone involved, I got over it.)

  53. Mr. Random
    Mr. Random
    January 27, 2025 at 5:08 am | #

    God DAMN Ruth.
    Have a LITTLE self-respect.

    • Adept
      Adept
      January 27, 2025 at 7:09 am | #

      I mean, that seemed very honest.

  54. Needfuldoer
    Needfuldoer
    January 27, 2025 at 6:24 am | #

    Ruth, no.

  55. GUIGUI
    GUIGUI
    January 27, 2025 at 6:49 am | #

    I think she surprised herself there.

    Also, if there is someone that will react to drama as if there is blood in the water, it will be Booster, not Ruth.

  56. zee
    zee
    January 27, 2025 at 7:18 am | #

    I really like Thai Becky and wanna stick with it but someone has a rotten girl Miku grav and it’s making me, as a host to the teto cognito hazard I mean as a teto fan, feel competitive

    • zee
      zee
      January 27, 2025 at 7:19 am | #

      ***this Becky. But now I wanna see someone draw Becky as Thai

      • zee
        zee
        January 27, 2025 at 6:57 pm | #

        Test

        • zee
          zee
          January 27, 2025 at 6:58 pm | #

          Yusssss

    • NGPZ
      NGPZ
      January 27, 2025 at 9:38 pm | #

      was me, LOL

      was first thing I thought of when my gay brain put together

      “shameful” + “lesbian” + “suit and tie”

      XD

  57. ValdVin
    ValdVin
    January 27, 2025 at 7:44 am | #

    I misread that panel and thought it was about Jennifer’s dumb boyfriend. Anyone else weighing if Jason or Asher is the better person for one of these two disaster recovery areas to date?

  58. J.Gawain
    J.Gawain
    January 27, 2025 at 7:58 am | #

    No, Ruth, you’re supposed to vehemently deny it. Maybe get really close and glare into my eyes.

  59. Deanatay
    Deanatay
    January 27, 2025 at 8:03 am | #

    “Yes, he is dumb. And to the other thing, too.”

  60. Azhrei Vep
    Azhrei Vep
    January 27, 2025 at 8:12 am | #

    Come on, Ruth. You’re better than this.

    … Now.

  61. Ike
    Ike
    January 27, 2025 at 8:57 am | #

    Honestly Ruth, you can do better.

    • Ike
      Ike
      January 27, 2025 at 8:57 am | #

      What an ironic gravatar.

  62. Michael Steamweed
    Michael Steamweed
    January 27, 2025 at 9:09 am | #

    That’s not the own you think it is, Jenn.

  63. John
    John
    January 27, 2025 at 9:21 am | #

    No, Ruth! You can do so much better!

    • DashWallkick
      DashWallkick
      January 27, 2025 at 1:14 pm | #

      She knows that. Which is why she’s just saying “I absolutely would throw it all away for you.”

  64. Yeet
    Yeet
    January 27, 2025 at 9:38 am | #

    If Jennifer really felt like that wrt panel one and wanted it to stop a nice loud “Fuck off” accompanied by not staying outside Ruth’s building to finish the conversation would probably do it

  65. AnonGrouch
    AnonGrouch
    January 27, 2025 at 10:21 am | #

    I feel like this is a really hard pairing for people to ‘get’ but at the end of the day a lot of the bullshit Jennifer does is out of a constant need to feel perfect and better than someone else. She clearly cares about people, she isn’t a sociopath, but she can come off as one due to feeling like she constantly needs to not show weakness and vulnerability which of course effects every single relationship she has.

    Caring about someone else can lead someone down a path of radical self improvement, or it can enable your worst tendencies. I feel like Ruth’s love for Jennifer has made her a generally better person over the strips. It’d be interesting to see Jennifer improve because she is generally an interesting, flawed character with the capacity to do great good. I think that’s why she is generally so unlikeable in the first place. She’s easy to see how the situation could be better because she is so bad at every step of the way. I’m not saying relationships are the best way to achieve growth, but hey, if that’s how it gets written I’m here for it. I like these characters a lot.

    • Charles Phipps
      Charles Phipps
      January 27, 2025 at 12:58 pm | #

      I mean you could argue that all of Ruth’s improvement is due to leaving Jennifer and vice versa. Because they were only improving because CARLA forced Ruth into therapy.

      • Jeremiah
        Jeremiah
        January 27, 2025 at 3:28 pm | #

        Ruth was already improving during their relationship, in fact that things were better was part of her flawed reasoning to break up. And I don’t see any way Jennifer has improved since the break up, outside of getting sober, which afaik she was already doing before that. She in fact regressed in most of her positive development.

        • Charles Phipps
          Charles Phipps
          January 27, 2025 at 3:50 pm | #

          Jennifer needed to get away from toxic people and did. Just because we like them doesn’t mean that they weren’t utterly wrecking her. It’s only when she started regressing with Asher to her Billie behavior that everything went to crap for her.

          • Joyfulldreams
            Joyfulldreams
            January 27, 2025 at 4:37 pm | #

            Wow. *That* is a spicy hot take. ASHER was the toxic one, and Jennifer is better off without him? Lmfao?

            • Charles Phipps
              Charles Phipps
              January 27, 2025 at 5:02 pm | #

              No, I meant Walky and the others. She joined the group to get away from her old friends and seems a lot less likely to suffer breakdowns like she is with her old friends.

              • thejeff
                thejeff
                January 27, 2025 at 7:28 pm | #

                She joined the group that secretly despises her and is only using her for their own ends and Walky is the toxic one?

          • Jeremiah
            Jeremiah
            January 27, 2025 at 7:31 pm | #

            That is literally not true. The main cast are flawed yes, but they were absolutely no “wrecking her” in any way. Getting into Raidah groups was the regressing into her “being the popular group is all that matter and make you better that others” mentality.

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      January 27, 2025 at 7:33 pm | #

      And that “constant need to feel perfect and better than someone else” is rooted in her deep self-loathing. Her understanding of her self as toxic and poisonous, dangerous to everyone she gets close to.
      Remember that’s why she was able to be with Ruth in the first place. They were both already beyond help.

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        January 27, 2025 at 7:35 pm | #

        I never thought of this before, but is that tied to why she keeps pushing Walky away? She acts like it’s because he’s a nerd and would ruin her social status and to some extent that’s part of it, but could it run deeper than that?

    • Tesset
      Tesset
      January 27, 2025 at 11:55 pm | #

      This might be the only comment I’ve seen in here that actually gets why I found late-stage Ruth/Billie so fun. Like, the toxic, secret mess early on was extremely fun, but seeing it resolve into something that felt like it was making the characters *better* was a really good resolution/extension of that, and then it felt like it got kneecapped arbitrarily for the shock factor of “why aren’t Billie and Ruth together???” after the time skip

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        January 28, 2025 at 8:29 am | #

        It felt like that at first, but as we saw how it happened and saw more scenes like this between the two of them it’s felt more inevitable to me. The stuff between them hasn’t just been dropped, it’s been looming over them ever since. For better or worse, it’s going to get addressed before they get any real resolution.

  66. ac
    ac
    January 27, 2025 at 10:44 am | #

    delicious toxic yuri

  67. Delavan
    Delavan
    January 27, 2025 at 12:03 pm | #

    RUTH. RUTH NO. NO RUTH NO.

    • Nymph
      Nymph
      January 27, 2025 at 12:15 pm | #

      RUTH YES!

      • clif
        clif
        January 27, 2025 at 12:24 pm | #

        We can hope.

      • ZerglingOne
        ZerglingOne
        January 27, 2025 at 12:41 pm | #

        Definitely read this in Team Four-Star Vegeta’s voice.

  68. Bryy
    Bryy
    January 27, 2025 at 12:29 pm | #

    So, uh, Jennifer, you probably are not gonna like New Ruth.

  69. Charles Phipps
    Charles Phipps
    January 27, 2025 at 12:58 pm | #

    A reminder that Jennifer and Ruth almost got each other killed and Carla was the one who forced Ruth on medication.

    • Jeremiah
      Jeremiah
      January 27, 2025 at 3:24 pm | #

      I mean, not quite, Ruth fell into a suicidal depression when they got into a fight, Jennifer didn’t actually get there,. Carla also didn’t do that, Ruth got medical attention that give her medication, if anyone forced her it would probably be the school.

      • Charles Phipps
        Charles Phipps
        January 27, 2025 at 5:07 pm | #

        I mean Carla dragged her to the doctor and Jennifer complained about her forcing her into the light.

        • Jeremiah
          Jeremiah
          January 27, 2025 at 7:27 pm | #

          Could you actually give me a spruce on that?

          • Charles Phipps
            Charles Phipps
            January 27, 2025 at 8:15 pm | #

            I think this is the strip.

            https://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/04-it-all-returns/grossthings/

            • Jeremiah
              Jeremiah
              January 27, 2025 at 8:30 pm | #

              Okay yeah, like I said, it is not quite that, she was involved and ultimately she facilitated things by making Jennifer realized how bad things were and make her go help her but that is far from having to force Ruth to get therapy or take meds, she didn’t get involved that far.

            • clif
              clif
              January 27, 2025 at 8:36 pm | #

              I don’t think that strip says what you think it does.

              • clif
                clif
                January 27, 2025 at 8:48 pm | #

                It was actually Rachel alerting the residence manager that saved them from their lesbian suicide pact. https://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/04-it-all-returns/chloe/ and a couple of strips after.

    • Tesset
      Tesset
      January 27, 2025 at 11:36 pm | #

      Yeah, and it was glorious and beautiful and fun to read, what are you missing? >.>

  70. thumb
    thumb
    January 27, 2025 at 1:59 pm | #

    On the one hand, sucks to be Jason.
    Somewhere on the same hand but maybe close to the outside, I’m pretty sure he knows.

    • Tesset
      Tesset
      January 27, 2025 at 11:35 pm | #

      Yeah, but “sucks to be Jason” seems to be his only story role in this one, so if he wants some panel time he better be willing to have his life get measurably worse 😛

  71. pyrock_mania
    pyrock_mania
    January 27, 2025 at 2:12 pm | #

    This sure derails the narrative Raidah’s been using to stroke your ego, huh Jennifer?

  72. Taigan
    Taigan
    January 27, 2025 at 2:14 pm | #

    Possibly that was more honesty than Jennifer was prepared for?

  73. Sibre
    Sibre
    January 27, 2025 at 2:27 pm | #

    Have Ruth’s reasons for dumping her in the first place changed all that much? Or is she just admitting weakness here?

    • Zamperla
      Zamperla
      January 27, 2025 at 8:37 pm | #

      Weakness, genuinely. See also them fighting and her admitting to Jason that it could have been worse: she could have kissed her.

  74. Joy
    Joy
    January 27, 2025 at 4:07 pm | #

    Nope! Nope. After Jennifer’s recent concussion I want Ruth as far away from her as possible. If it weren’t for that I’d be for them getting together again, but, nope, please stop and go away.

    • Joy
      Joy
      January 27, 2025 at 4:07 pm | #

      …trying for a new icon

      • Joy
        Joy
        January 27, 2025 at 4:07 pm | #

        Again

  75. Joy
    Joy
    January 27, 2025 at 4:08 pm | #

    Again (I want it to be a woman!)

    • Joy
      Joy
      January 27, 2025 at 4:08 pm | #

      Dorothy is good enough actually, let’s go with her.

  76. Joyfulldreams
    Joyfulldreams
    January 27, 2025 at 4:39 pm | #

    This entire thing is giving serious Juri and Shiori from Utena vibes.

    But unlike in Utena I want these two to get back together so BAD.

  77. Buck Ripsnort
    Buck Ripsnort
    January 27, 2025 at 6:17 pm | #

    Did EITHER one of them expect what just came out of their mouths?

  78. Michael Steamweed
    Michael Steamweed
    January 27, 2025 at 8:22 pm | #

    Their own mouth? Yes. The other’s mouth? No.

  79. Zamperla
    Zamperla
    January 27, 2025 at 8:37 pm | #

    One of the more fascinating Billy moments. Immediately contextualizes Ruth asking after her as overtly predatory. Tries to set up a fight. Not really ready for the response she gets.

    Anyhow: yeah they need to not. in the words of Becky: TERRIBLE couple.

  80. StClair
    StClair
    January 27, 2025 at 11:15 pm | #

    Another comic, another roll.

  81. StClair
    StClair
    January 27, 2025 at 11:15 pm | #

    eh.

    • StClair
      StClair
      January 27, 2025 at 11:17 pm | #

      last one today.

  82. mancuso
    mancuso
    January 27, 2025 at 11:24 pm | #

    One part of me knows that this is a comic strip and I shouldn’t get invested. Another part of me knows that all of this is just Willis screwing with us. And yet, a tiny part of me keeps wondering why Billie needs to be such an absolute shit stain all the time.

  83. Scolopendra
    Scolopendra
    January 27, 2025 at 11:58 pm | #

    PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

  84. Thing2
    Thing2
    January 28, 2025 at 1:38 am | #

    Billifer is just sooooo unhappy.

  85. Juanoku
    Juanoku
    January 28, 2025 at 1:17 pm | #

    PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

  86. Taigan
    Taigan
    January 28, 2025 at 5:43 pm | #

    I don’t know if Jennifer and Ruth getting back together is in Willis’ game plan, but if it is the chapter where it happens will have to be titled “You’d Have To Stop The World.”

  87. StClair
    StClair
    January 29, 2025 at 12:03 am | #

    (testing one out at the end)

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