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May 12, 2026

Overexert

by David M Willis on February 8, 2025 at 12:01 am
  • 03 – Me And Who You Say I Was Yesterday
└ Tags: jacob, jennifer

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  1. NGPZ
    NGPZ
    February 8, 2025 at 12:02 am | #

    that’s a “I wish I had some serotonin instead of these huge tits” face if I ever seen one

    T_T

    • Justnobodyfqwl
      Justnobodyfqwl
      February 8, 2025 at 12:03 am | #

      God bless Jennifer’s Boobs, the most important characters in the comic

      • NGPZ
        NGPZ
        February 8, 2025 at 12:09 am | #

        im excited for SarahTonyn myself, and really wish i had more serotonin T_T

        • CianM1301
          CianM1301
          February 8, 2025 at 2:20 am | #

          Now that’s a good ship name.

    • ian livs
      ian livs
      February 8, 2025 at 2:53 am | #

      Agreed–I see that expression in the mirror all the time, and those last 2 panels are nailing the vibe XD

      • Decidedly Orthogonal
        Decidedly Orthogonal
        February 8, 2025 at 5:42 am | #

        > those last 2 panels are nailing the vibe

        Oh is that what she’s doing? I didn’t see it on her caddy. Maybe it’s hidden in her towel? 😉

        • Michael Steamweed
          Michael Steamweed
          February 8, 2025 at 9:53 am | #

          I see what you did there.

    • Bruno
      Bruno
      February 8, 2025 at 5:28 am | #

      Are they mutually exclusive?

      • Bruno
        Bruno
        February 8, 2025 at 5:29 am | #

        I mean are they mutually exclusive?

    • Kazuma Taichi
      Kazuma Taichi
      February 8, 2025 at 11:23 am | #

      I’m not sure I’m familiar with the face, but my best friend lives that life so I’m quite familiar with the sentiment
      (meanwhile I’m sitting here asking for both serotonin and some tits)

  2. Doctor_Who
    Doctor_Who
    February 8, 2025 at 12:03 am | #

    (Linkin Park intensifies)

    Jennifer: “Ew, what? We’re on a floating timeline here, Hybrid Theory released when I was negative six. “Play That Funky Music” was the same age when “Crawling” came out as “Crawling” is now. Just how old are y-”

    (Linkin Park intensifies)

    • Random832
      Random832
      February 8, 2025 at 12:30 am | #

      what are the kids these days listening to instead of Crawling?

      • mindbleach
        mindbleach
        February 8, 2025 at 12:46 am | #

        Jennifer’s basically looping on Operation: Mindcrime right now.

    • jeffepp
      jeffepp
      February 8, 2025 at 12:32 am | #

      And we know how that… ended.

  3. Nono
    Nono
    February 8, 2025 at 12:03 am | #

    Are there ever any happy showers here, it’s all sad shower feels.

    • Thag Simmons
      Thag Simmons
      February 8, 2025 at 12:07 am | #

      I feel like the venn diagram between happy showers and showers that are significant enough to get paneltime is pretty small

      • Decidedly Orthogonal
        Decidedly Orthogonal
        February 8, 2025 at 5:44 am | #

        Or all the happy ones are Patreon exclusives. Because reasons…

        • Michael Steamweed
          Michael Steamweed
          February 8, 2025 at 9:55 am | #

          I’m on the Patreon. We don’t see any happy fun time showers. We are sad about it.

          • RoyanRannedos
            RoyanRannedos
            February 8, 2025 at 12:43 pm | #

            I think happy fun time showers run into complications if you try them in the communal shower room.

            • Michael Steamweed
              Michael Steamweed
              February 8, 2025 at 10:08 pm | #

              Well, it depends if Joyce is watching out or not. She’s a good lookout.

          • BorkBorkBork
            BorkBorkBork
            February 9, 2025 at 4:56 am | #

            I mean. Are you just on the Patreon, or are you on the OTHER Patreon?

            … legit asking, I don’t know what happens on the other one, but I had assumed happy shower time.

    • Tesset
      Tesset
      February 8, 2025 at 12:24 am | #

      This one’s kind of a happy shower
      https://www.dumbingofage.com/2024/comic/book-14/03-trystin-in-the-wind/cleanest/

    • mindbleach
      mindbleach
      February 8, 2025 at 12:44 am | #

      Are we counting that time Joyce asked for advice?

    • Tan
      Tan
      February 8, 2025 at 1:09 am | #

      Two happy showers for the price of one: https://www.dumbingofage.com/2022/comic/book-12/04-dont-stop-billie-ving/heeheeheeheehee/

      • Michael Steamweed
        Michael Steamweed
        February 8, 2025 at 9:58 am | #

        Very few people are averse to pie. Pie is good.

      • BorkBorkBork
        BorkBorkBork
        February 9, 2025 at 4:58 am | #

        So far all of the happy showers include Roz.

        Coincidence? I think not!

    • Mark
      Mark
      February 8, 2025 at 9:00 am | #

      Well, when you’re happy, showering is kind of an interruption. And when you’re sad, a shower can help a little. So, sad showers should predominate.

  4. Sirksome
    Sirksome
    February 8, 2025 at 12:04 am | #

    Just gonna say Jacob and Lucy try too hard to be nice. It’s not their fault but some people don’t want that.

    • Charles Phipps
      Charles Phipps
      February 8, 2025 at 12:06 am | #

      Jennifer isn’t really doing better by not having friends, though.

    • Archieve
      Archieve
      February 8, 2025 at 12:06 am | #

      can’t decide if Jennifer is on the verge of wanting that or withdrawing further.

      • Charles Phipps
        Charles Phipps
        February 8, 2025 at 12:22 am | #

        An insight into Jennifer’s mind is “Well, don’t overexert yourself.” It’s another damn example of Jennifer testing people. She dumped Asher to test to see if he’d come crawling back to her, she got mad at Ruth for ‘abandoning’ her, and now she’s mad that Lucy and Jacob aren’t pushing.

        Jennifer has internalized that you’re supposed to ignore a person’s wishes to fight for them.

        • Sirksome
          Sirksome
          February 8, 2025 at 12:40 am | #

          I don’t think that’s the case here. She definitely has internalized that and we should all be more pissed at Ruth for training her to have this expectation, but I think she’s just kind of done. Her last three major relationships destructed at left her with huge emotional trauma. Even though Asher really liked her that relationship was doomed to fail. I don’t know what Jennifer needs but I don’t think she’s saying “try harder” to anyone anymore.

          • thejeff
            thejeff
            February 8, 2025 at 10:12 am | #

            I’m not sure how Ruth trained her to have this expectation?
            Just by ultimately breaking up with her for real?

            • Sirksome
              Sirksome
              February 8, 2025 at 10:39 am | #

              Ruth taught her to pick locks. Ruth admitted even after breaking up with her she expected Jennifer to fight for her.

              https://www.dumbingofage.com/2022/comic/book-13/02-turning-saints-into-the-sea/assumption/

              https://www.dumbingofage.com/2022/comic/book-13/02-turning-saints-into-the-sea/pettyselfish/

              This is after of course the physical and psychological torment Ruth subjected Jen to before they even got together.

              Ruth had even broken up with her a few times mostly over fear of the nature of their relationship, their self destructive ideology, the drinking being really bad for either of them, ect.

              So I can’t really pit all of Jennifer’s toxic relationship expectations on her alone. It was a team effort.

              • thejeff
                thejeff
                February 8, 2025 at 1:43 pm | #

                Oh, I misread what you were saying. Makes sense now.

              • Yumi
                Yumi
                February 8, 2025 at 6:59 pm | #

                They really baked the expectation into each other.
                https://www.dumbingofage.com/2019/comic/book-9-comic/04-vote-for-robin/refusing/

          • Bittersweet
            Bittersweet
            February 8, 2025 at 11:10 am | #

            Jennifer and Asher were really happy together until she threw a tantrum over a shirt, I wouldn’t call it doomed to fail. Was kind of squarely Jennifer’s decisions that ruined it. Pretty sure Ruth’s thing was mostly Ruth’s fault though unless I’m forgetting something.

    • Jeremiah
      Jeremiah
      February 8, 2025 at 8:04 am | #

      You reminded me of this gumball quote
      “No one is that nice! No ONE! Because of they were I’d have to ask some very difficult questions about myself!”
      In short, thinking someone “tries too hard to be nice” is kind of weird. Especially here where he is just Being nice.

      • Ed Callahan
        Ed Callahan
        February 8, 2025 at 9:11 am | #

        Sometimes I get the feeling some DOA fans are a little too protective of their misery.

        • Sirksome
          Sirksome
          February 8, 2025 at 9:20 am | #

          I’m interested in what you mean by this. Not to spark conflict, just for clarification. I feel like it’s easy to jump to assumptions about a commenter, but I really just like discussing the comic.

      • Sirksome
        Sirksome
        February 8, 2025 at 9:14 am | #

        It’s not about them being nice in general. It’s about them not getting their head bit off by someone not ready to receive help. Or risking alienating that person by reaching out and annoying them. I have personal experience with this and it doesn’t end well. Jacob and Lucy are trying too hard, it’s who they are but that’s not always the right move.

        • Jeremiah
          Jeremiah
          February 8, 2025 at 9:51 am | #

          Trying too hard, by Jacob asking one time to Jennifer if she wanna hang out, to I Claude her? I just think that is a weird way to see this interaction.

          • Brendan of 6
            Brendan of 6
            February 8, 2025 at 11:00 am | #

            ^This^

    • Mark
      Mark
      February 8, 2025 at 9:03 am | #

      “Trying too hard to be nice” is how you find out who doesn’t appreciate it, so you can be nice by not doing that any more for that person.

      • Jeremiah
        Jeremiah
        February 8, 2025 at 9:53 am | #

        And is egue again they are not trying too hard ata lol, it is just, normal levels of being nice.

        • Jeremiah
          Jeremiah
          February 8, 2025 at 9:53 am | #

          *not hard at all.

    • Hroethvitnir
      Hroethvitnir
      February 8, 2025 at 2:21 pm | #

      Eh. I find the average level of sweetness between them… well, not for me. But inviting her to breakfast was a nice, and normal thing to do. Someone who acted like Jennifer does would be totally isolated a lot faster irl than in comic land.

  5. Shakes
    Shakes
    February 8, 2025 at 12:04 am | #

    >tfw no gf

    • morhek
      morhek
      February 8, 2025 at 12:07 am | #

      >tfw no f

      • AGV/Ruby
        AGV/Ruby
        February 8, 2025 at 1:13 am | #

        that fuck when no feeling

        • Michael Steamweed
          Michael Steamweed
          February 8, 2025 at 10:00 am | #

          >feeling that when no fuck

  6. Charles Phipps
    Charles Phipps
    February 8, 2025 at 12:05 am | #

    Jennifer really doesn’t want anyone reaching out to be her friend, does she?

    • Archieve
      Archieve
      February 8, 2025 at 12:09 am | #

      I think remembering Alice right after Ruth confessed to still wanting her has her feeling very conflicted over what she wants. All that’s clear is that right now she doesn’t want to be around a happy couple.

      • Rose by Any other Name
        Rose by Any other Name
        February 8, 2025 at 12:15 am | #

        … I’m kinda lowkey wondering if bi-erasure Jennifer is gonna snap and be like:
        “Fuck it! Only women have ever loved me, so I’m just a fucking lesbian now apparently. Better find a girlfriend to immediately move in with and whatever other fucking lesbian stereotypes I can think of.”

        • Charles Phipps
          Charles Phipps
          February 8, 2025 at 12:20 am | #

          The irony being Asher really did care for her and was angry she dumped him for no other reason than he wore a funny shirt. Jennifer didn’t even LIKE Asher and tried to establish a boundary that backfired.

          • DailyBrad
            DailyBrad
            February 8, 2025 at 1:27 am | #

            I feel like there was tension even before that, like when he came to her room wanting sex in a strip prior to all of that, and she seemed less into it than him. I kind of just get the impression that the expiration date was looming before this on what seems to have been something of a rebound after Ruth dumped her.

            • cbwroses
              cbwroses
              February 8, 2025 at 9:45 am | #

              I don’t recall that.
              Maybe you mean a different strip, but if you mean the one I’m about to share, that’s not what happened:

              https://www.dumbingofage.com/2022/comic/book-12/04-dont-stop-billie-ving/attractionlevel/

              • DailyBrad
                DailyBrad
                February 8, 2025 at 1:01 pm | #

                Ah okay, maybe I am conflating things, it has been years, after all.

                In any case, she wasn’t goo-goo about him even before the “let’s gaslight Walky to try to recruit him” shtick from the Raidah crew.

        • GholaHalleck
          GholaHalleck
          February 8, 2025 at 12:32 am | #

          … Oh my god I hope she goes after Leslie.

          I have been aching for someone to make a “Your name is literally lesbian, you are the most lesbian to ever lesbian” rant…

          • RassilonTDavros
            RassilonTDavros
            February 8, 2025 at 12:48 am | #

            Considering the student-teacher power imbalance between them, that’s… honestly totally plausible for Jennifer, yes.

          • Thag Simmons
            Thag Simmons
            February 8, 2025 at 1:31 am | #

            I feel like she would be about as successful as her attempt to woo Tony. Maybe less

          • Mark
            Mark
            February 8, 2025 at 9:11 am | #

            Or Daisy finally gets lucky(?).

            • Shadowsnail
              Shadowsnail
              February 8, 2025 at 11:59 am | #

              Jennifer (or maybe another name shift – Jenn?) asks Dorothy to sew her an Amazi-Girl costume and then takes a trip to the newspaper office.
              Or she reverses the color scheme and wears a U for Unremarka-Girl.

              • Shadowsnail
                Shadowsnail
                February 8, 2025 at 12:07 pm | #

                Wait – it’s been there in her last name all along. In her current mental state, it would be W for Worthless Girl.
                I somehow slipped from silly to tragic here. Someone please help Jennifer.

    • Sirksome
      Sirksome
      February 8, 2025 at 12:12 am | #

      Considering what’s happened to her through the last year it’s understandable. Every relationship she’s had has not worked out well. At that point distancing yourself is easier than being a drama hurricane for others.

    • DashWallkick
      DashWallkick
      February 8, 2025 at 1:46 am | #

      Friendship is for losers and dorks, the only thing that matters is looking cool and the admiration of your peers. The fact that she’s visibly about to cry because she’s so lonely and confused and miserable is unrelated.

      • Sillygoose
        Sillygoose
        February 8, 2025 at 8:36 am | #

        Completely unrelated indeed. Clearly the last two panels merely indicte that the hot water ran out.

    • Bruno
      Bruno
      February 8, 2025 at 5:30 am | #

      Ok, come on. Hanging out with those two looks hellish.

      • Deanatay
        Deanatay
        February 8, 2025 at 8:54 am | #

        Indeed, LucEthan are in that Happy Honeymoon phase where everything is about looking at each other, touching each other, and giggling hysterically. Absolutely insufferable to anyone outside their relationship.

        • cbwroses
          cbwroses
          February 8, 2025 at 9:50 am | #

          Jacob, not Ethan.

          • Shadowsnail
            Shadowsnail
            February 8, 2025 at 12:00 pm | #

            Would that make it Jucy?

  7. IntangibleMatter
    IntangibleMatter
    February 8, 2025 at 12:13 am | #

    Jennifer could really use some antidepressants, huh?

    Honestly way less people in this comic are medicated than they should be.

    • Amelie Wikström
      Amelie Wikström
      February 8, 2025 at 4:11 am | #

      Jennifer thinks she’s too smart for therapy so I don’t see that happening soon.

  8. Opus the Poet
    Opus the Poet
    February 8, 2025 at 12:15 am | #

    I recognize that facial expression. That’s depression, I saw that expression staring back at me for many years while I was growing old.

  9. Mano308gts
    Mano308gts
    February 8, 2025 at 12:16 am | #

    I don’t often focus on the artwork…. But the last two panels here are a really excellent job of doing more with almost nothing. There is a strong emotional shift between “annoyed depression” in panel 4, and “on the verge of tears” in panel 5. The differences are almost invisible (slightly more shading under the eyes, slightly flatter lip) but if works.

    • audkitten
      audkitten
      February 8, 2025 at 12:38 am | #

      This is almost exactly what I was thinking too

    • Sporky
      Sporky
      February 8, 2025 at 12:47 am | #

      I gotta be honest – other than the natural variation from drawing the same thing twice, the expression looks exactly the same to me in both panels.

      • clif
        clif
        February 8, 2025 at 1:26 am | #

        It may be all in our minds, but it’s kind of what I saw is well. I don’t know what it is but whatever Willis did, even if it is just repetition, subtly works to depict evolving emotion.

      • Thag Simmons
        Thag Simmons
        February 8, 2025 at 1:33 am | #

        She does definitely feel sadder in the last panel, but it’s a subtle difference to be sure

        • Matthew Davis
          Matthew Davis
          February 8, 2025 at 5:13 am | #

          Much less. Leslie wants a relationship, but she wants a meaningful relationship, and her pre-comic arc is all about establishing her boundaries. She’d talk Jennifer down and send her to counseling before adding her to the list of students to worry about.

    • Thomas
      Thomas
      February 8, 2025 at 1:32 am | #

      Thank you for spotting this. It’s verrrry subtle, but it’s definitely there. Mostly in the eyes. Tears are welling up.

      Which is a good thing, honestly. Sadness is a feeling. It’s a huge improvement over not feeling anything at all. Or over anger, which often has sadness at its core.

      It’s a bit frustrating how Willis can be this subtle and still has Joe’s pupils travel all over his face to do expressions.

      • Matthew Davis
        Matthew Davis
        February 8, 2025 at 5:15 am | #

        To be fair, Joe is an OG character design from pre-Roomies days evolved to the present day.

        • Thomas
          Thomas
          February 8, 2025 at 9:10 am | #

          You mean all pre-Roomies characters still have dot eyes? Danny, Jason, Joe, Sal, Walky… yeah, that works out. With Howard as a possible exception due to wearing glasses.

    • Davus
      Davus
      February 8, 2025 at 4:15 am | #

      And also good on willis, in the way that he re-draws the panels. Another artist might have copied and pasted but no, he redraws each panel, literally every time. I’m pretty sure he said this somewhere.

      • RassilonTDavros
        RassilonTDavros
        February 8, 2025 at 3:45 pm | #

        I believe Willis sometimes copy-pastes the pencils, but always inks each panel individually.

        also sry for the accidental report

    • anonymsly
      anonymsly
      February 8, 2025 at 7:14 am | #

      The eyebrows are a little different between panels too! It’s really impressive expression work.

    • zee
      zee
      February 8, 2025 at 12:14 pm | #

      Oh I think she’s already crying with the placement of those water streams. Cry in the shower so you can lie to yourself that you’re not crying

  10. Pocky
    Pocky
    February 8, 2025 at 12:17 am | #

    I too do not wish to go places with people early in the morning.

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      clif
      February 8, 2025 at 1:30 am | #

      I’m perfectly willing to go places with sane people I know well early in the morning, but I need a couple of hours of waking up before I can deal with unreasonably cheerful people.

  11. AnonGrouch
    AnonGrouch
    February 8, 2025 at 12:24 am | #

    oof

  12. DailyBrad
    DailyBrad
    February 8, 2025 at 12:25 am | #

    Jacob’s good at least for keeping his eyes up, given this is Jennifer, and there’s basically zero percent chance she’s got pants on. Got that going for him, at least.

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      Jeremiah
      February 8, 2025 at 7:55 am | #

      And you know being nice, smart, attractive young men, build like a brick house.

  13. jeffepp
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    February 8, 2025 at 12:27 am | #

    Two comics in a row ending in her crying. She’s not in a good place.

    • Devin
      Devin
      February 8, 2025 at 12:37 pm | #

      I don’t think we’ve ever seen Jennifer in an actually good place. I think the closest we’ve seen is her lying to herself about that.

  14. bwooom
    bwooom
    February 8, 2025 at 12:30 am | #

    I’m so excited for the Unrelenting Jennifer Agony chapter.

    • DashWallkick
      DashWallkick
      February 8, 2025 at 1:39 am | #

      I am vibrating with delight for her to ruin her life from her own actions even more than she already does.

      • Matthew Davis
        Matthew Davis
        February 8, 2025 at 5:17 am | #

        Oh crap. She’s going to try to fix Dorothy, isn’t she? All her self-destructive behaviors stem in part from trying to solve problems for other people, and Dorothy’s the character who is most obviously got them.

        • anonymsly
          anonymsly
          February 8, 2025 at 7:13 am | #

          Jennifer thinks she fixed Dorothy already, I think. If we’re unbelievably lucky, the storyline is where the alpha bongo problem solver realizes that the person most in need of the alpha bongo problem solver is the alpha bongo herself.

          • DashWallkick
            DashWallkick
            February 8, 2025 at 12:20 pm | #

            Yeah, if we’re centering this much on Jennifer and she’s crying in the shower, I get the feeling this ends with her at least looking in a mirror for once, or maybe even quietly and abashedly asking for help because she’s at the end of her rope. Hell, we’ve had a lot of talk of suicidal ideation around Becky lately, wouldn’t surprise me if we get a redux with Billie relapsing or something.

  15. Charles Phipps
    Charles Phipps
    February 8, 2025 at 12:30 am | #

    I note that jennifer didn’t say NO.

    Then Jacob rescinded the invitation.

    • Thomas
      Thomas
      February 8, 2025 at 1:38 am | #

      I note that Jacob did nothing of the sort.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      February 8, 2025 at 4:24 am | #

      She implicitly declined the invitation.

      • Charles Phipps
        Charles Phipps
        February 8, 2025 at 4:27 am | #

        She just glared.

        • Freezer
          Freezer
          February 8, 2025 at 7:01 am | #

          And in the real world, where there are no telepaths, that’s a no.

    • zee
      zee
      February 8, 2025 at 12:14 pm | #

      He read the room

    • Jeremiah
      Jeremiah
      February 8, 2025 at 12:48 pm | #

      He didn’t recind it, she glared at him, he fell he made her mad somehow and explained that he wanted to include her and then Jennifer show disinterest in his attempt to be nice.

  16. TheKelliestKelly
    TheKelliestKelly
    February 8, 2025 at 12:32 am | #

    In regards to the alt text: that’s dedication! Have you ever wished you did location tags as well? You know, so your archive binge could be limited to shower scenes in these types of situations

  17. RassilonTDavros
    RassilonTDavros
    February 8, 2025 at 12:52 am | #

    It’s a subtle thing, but I really love the slight change in Jennifer’s expression between Panels 4 and 5. Something about that little shift in her eyebrows really gives the sense that she’s gone from feeling dead inside to feeling outright miserable. It’s definitely not just shower water running down her face.

    A small detail, maybe, but sometimes those mean all the difference in the world.

    • RassilonTDavros
      RassilonTDavros
      February 8, 2025 at 12:58 am | #

      (I somehow missed Mano308gts’s earlier comment, which says basically the same thing. Oops.)

  18. Lingo
    Lingo
    February 8, 2025 at 12:59 am | #

    “I gotta practice looking and acting like Ethan so I can lure Asher back into my passive-aggressive clutches.”

    (kidding)

    • Lingo
      Lingo
      February 8, 2025 at 12:59 am | #

      I keep forgetting about my avatar, lol

    • Theluxland
      Theluxland
      February 8, 2025 at 6:41 pm | #

      I though it was Ethan yesterday because I keep forgetting who room with who, I feel stupid now lol

  19. Bryy
    Bryy
    February 8, 2025 at 12:59 am | #

    So.

    The next two storylines are going to hurt, huh?

  20. Doki
    Doki
    February 8, 2025 at 1:07 am | #

    This is definitely the face of someone whose therapy sessions fixed all their problems.

    Definitely.

  21. MickeeC
    MickeeC
    February 8, 2025 at 1:11 am | #

    Fire. Her. Fraud. Of. A. Therapist.

    • AGV/Ruby
      AGV/Ruby
      February 8, 2025 at 1:18 am | #

      To be fair, not even the best therapist can help someone who will not open up. And Jennifer is immensely stuck in her shell.

      • CianM1301
        CianM1301
        February 8, 2025 at 2:27 am | #

        Well, when something’s stuck in its shell, y’know what you do? You get a screwdriver and pry that shit open.
        (Note, this should not be attempted with turtles/tortoises).

        • Jeremiah
          Jeremiah
          February 8, 2025 at 7:51 am | #

          Yeah when you try to do that with a person it only make them clamp up harder and possibly snap off your finger in the process (you figure out what that a metaphor for)

        • zee
          zee
          February 8, 2025 at 12:19 pm | #

          Dawg the reason you made a physical comparison is because that shit is impossible in a non physical sense. That is exactly the opposite of what you’re taught to do in Therapy School. All that’ll do is retraumatize a patient and make them resent you and therapy as a whole. Therapy only works if the patient wants it to, and billifer clearly doesn’t want to introspect like that

          • Mark
            Mark
            February 8, 2025 at 6:47 pm | #

            It just occurred to me (because of what I’ve been reading elsewhere today) that this is very like what a good interrogator does, if the object is to get at the truth.

    • Nymph
      Nymph
      February 8, 2025 at 5:11 am | #

      It has been a few weeks, maybe a month+ in comic. Even if Jennifer was doing all the work (and we know she isn’t), that just isn’t enough time to sort out complex issues like the ones Jennifer has.

      It’s talking to someone and maybe getting meds, it isn’t a magic wand.

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        February 8, 2025 at 10:28 am | #

        Is she still in therapy? We know she started before the timeskip? Has there been anything since then about her continuing?

    • Bruno
      Bruno
      February 8, 2025 at 5:33 am | #

      Someone get that ler some treats.

  22. Ray Radlein
    Ray Radlein
    February 8, 2025 at 1:21 am | #

    When I first read this, I briefly thought that Jacob and Lucy had started pouring water on Jennifer’s head in response to her comments

  23. DashWallkick
    DashWallkick
    February 8, 2025 at 1:45 am | #

    Jennifer’s tears are delicious to me, this is decades of issues coming home to roost and I am delighted by her life collapsing for the second time as she pretends she doesn’t care (she does, more than anything, she cares so so so so much).

  24. Thomas
    Thomas
    February 8, 2025 at 1:45 am | #

    Jennifer’s eyesight is bad enough that she needs glasses to gather her toiletries and/or walk to the showers.

    • zee
      zee
      February 8, 2025 at 12:22 pm | #

      It might just be that it’s disorienting to walk around without them. When I was on the brink of being a full-time glasses wearer walking around without them made me feel like I lost my depth perception. I feel woozy if I don’t wear them while I’m sick

    • Yumi
      Yumi
      February 8, 2025 at 4:04 pm | #

      As someone who always wears glasses, that just seems…normal. Like, I get out of bed, I put my glasses on. I don’t just not wear my glasses because I could technically do some tasks without them.

      • Thomas
        Thomas
        February 8, 2025 at 5:49 pm | #

        I won’t put my glasses on if I’m headed for the shower directly after waking up. If I first have breakfast, it’s different. Not much experience with communal showers down hallways. I think I could manage that without glasses.

        • Yumi
          Yumi
          February 8, 2025 at 7:04 pm | #

          Could manage, yeah, but could also manage to have breakfast without glasses. Going down the dorm hall would definitely increase how much I’d want my glasses with me.

  25. VicMortimer
    VicMortimer
    February 8, 2025 at 1:46 am | #

    Hey look! 100% of everything involved is 100% toxic!

  26. foducool
    foducool
    February 8, 2025 at 2:30 am | #

    “why am I like this…”

  27. brumagem
    brumagem
    February 8, 2025 at 2:37 am | #

    Been there :{

  28. ADLegend21
    ADLegend21
    February 8, 2025 at 2:40 am | #

    ugh, Lucy. Don’t remind me.

  29. Suet
    Suet
    February 8, 2025 at 3:52 am | #

    …mood.

    although I prefer the water sprayed towards my face

    Wonder how long til’ alt-text discovered the shower caddy and the shampoo’s colors

  30. Rabisch
    Rabisch
    February 8, 2025 at 4:11 am | #

    Is Jennifer crying in the last panel or just really sad? Probably Jacob’s good intentions make her realise how miserable she is. Well, better cry that try to hit someone.

    • Mark
      Mark
      February 8, 2025 at 9:22 am | #

      Looks like full-bore weeping to me.

  31. Kyulen
    Kyulen
    February 8, 2025 at 4:18 am | #

    Sometimes it feels like Jennifer wants to stay miserable. I’m not a morning person and I’m an introvert, but even I would’ve turned them down nicer than Jennifer just did.

    • Bruno
      Bruno
      February 8, 2025 at 8:10 am | #

      Jennifer legitimately has no concept that you should be nice to people at all.

      • Charles Phipps
        Charles Phipps
        February 8, 2025 at 8:19 am | #

        I think it’s more that everything about society and television taught her it’s a zero sum game so the fact that Joyce and Lucy are succeeding in college is ruining her worldview.

  32. Needfuldoer
    Needfuldoer
    February 8, 2025 at 4:21 am | #

    Shampoo for her real friends, real poo for her sham friends.

    • Nymph
      Nymph
      February 8, 2025 at 5:12 am | #

      Amazing paraphrasing.

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        February 8, 2025 at 1:25 pm | #

        Oh that little nugget was absolutely stolen from somewhere. Probanly an old xkcd.

  33. Charles Phipps
    Charles Phipps
    February 8, 2025 at 4:27 am | #

    Jennifer must go ruin Alice’s current relationship and win her back!

  34. Amós Batista
    Amós Batista
    February 8, 2025 at 4:47 am | #

    sorry, no third-wheeling 😮‍💨

  35. Maddie B
    Maddie B
    February 8, 2025 at 4:58 am | #

    Girl is not okay.

    • Arianod
      Arianod
      February 8, 2025 at 6:20 am | #

      Never has been.

  36. Charles Phipps
    Charles Phipps
    February 8, 2025 at 5:32 am | #

    Jennifer’s genuine hatred of Lucy’s happiness is kind of the most interesting thing here. She tried to sabotage her and Walky and Lucy just stood up to her with Jacob.

    • Bruno
      Bruno
      February 8, 2025 at 5:34 am | #

      She’s passingly annoyed with it.

      So am I?

      • Jeremiah
        Jeremiah
        February 8, 2025 at 7:46 am | #

        And that is kind of weird, and in her case is very much resentments that she is happier that she is without having to change who she is.

    • Sere
      Sere
      February 8, 2025 at 9:38 am | #

      Jennifer has never liked being woken up in the morning. I imagine being on the receiving end of getting kicked out by the roommate for the first time, finally let in, and then waking up early to laughing is less than desirable. I’m a morning person, and even I would be “I need you to be quiet or get out so I can have a moment alone for a bit, thanks.”

  37. BBCC
    BBCC
    February 8, 2025 at 5:48 am | #

    Not a good time, Jacob.

    • Mark
      Mark
      February 8, 2025 at 9:26 am | #

      Nah, it could have been exactly the right time, but Jennifer is not that person.

  38. darkoneko
    darkoneko
    February 8, 2025 at 6:15 am | #

    Jacob, just stay away from the dumpster fire, for your own good

  39. CianM1301
    CianM1301
    February 8, 2025 at 6:15 am | #

    Not now, Jacob, can’t you see she wishes to brood in her own self-loathing?

    • Mark
      Mark
      February 8, 2025 at 9:28 am | #

      I think he saw that clearly.

  40. Arianod
    Arianod
    February 8, 2025 at 6:20 am | #

    If it had been me, I’d just have said “screw it, she finished the bottles and bought new brands”

    • Thomas
      Thomas
      February 8, 2025 at 7:36 am | #

      Absolutely. Who knows how many bottles Jennifer finished in the mean time? Exactly.

  41. TheFlamingonator
    TheFlamingonator
    February 8, 2025 at 8:13 am | #

    Still repping the Blue and Gold i see (go dragons?)

  42. thumb
    thumb
    February 8, 2025 at 8:40 am | #

    Willis… it’s been a while. She could have bought new brands.

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      February 8, 2025 at 10:31 am | #

      It’s been years. The brand could have changed color schemes.

  43. Deanatay
    Deanatay
    February 8, 2025 at 8:58 am | #

    Jennethan Billingseigel.

    Emothan II: THE INTENSIFYING

  44. Hof1991
    Hof1991
    February 8, 2025 at 9:01 am | #

    The invite was the final straw. Ruth. Asher walking away. Then Alice in dreams. And behind all that parents who hardly know she exists.

    She so desperately needs therapy and is so unlikely to get it.

  45. Deanatay
    Deanatay
    February 8, 2025 at 9:01 am | #

    Also, is ALL of that water coming from the shower head?

  46. Greylurker
    Greylurker
    February 8, 2025 at 9:23 am | #

    That Sobriety Pin is about to fall in the trashcan isn’t it

  47. goggleman64
    goggleman64
    February 8, 2025 at 11:03 am | #

    *Such* good subtle facial work in those last two panels ~ when I look at the details I’m still not sure what all changed, but my brain immediately registered the shift.

  48. Adept
    Adept
    February 8, 2025 at 11:26 am | #

    I’d ask what she’s got to be so pissy about, but it’s not like Billie / Jennifer ever really needs a reason.

  49. Devin
    Devin
    February 8, 2025 at 12:41 pm | #

    I am desperately hoping for Jennifer to have a breakthrough. My biggest frustration with this character was that she seemed for a little while to be making some kind of progress (albeit in some deeply messed up ways), and then fell backwards harder and further than I ever would have expected.

    • Jeremiah
      Jeremiah
      February 8, 2025 at 12:45 pm | #

      That is exactly why I love her so much.

  50. Astariel
    Astariel
    February 8, 2025 at 2:25 pm | #

    Lucy and Jacob are both good, kind people who deserve their happiness, but I would not want to be third wheel to their honeymoon phase, especially first thing in the morning, and especially if I were even slightly depressed, much less on the verge of meltdown like Jennifer is here. I’d try to be a little more polite about it, though.

    I see a lot of people are enjoying schadenfreude on Jennifer here, but personally I hope she hits bottom and starts to get better in this storyline. Whatever her faults, she doesn’t deserve to be this miserable.

    • Jeremiah
      Jeremiah
      February 8, 2025 at 5:55 pm | #

      Eeeh, she deserves a little bit.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      February 8, 2025 at 7:18 pm | #

      She threw away her relationship with Asher because she got too caught up in playing little miss haughty princess, now she’s miserable seeing Lucy with someone she probably sees as far out of her league.

      She’s thiis close to some long overdue introspecton…

  51. Zamperla
    Zamperla
    February 8, 2025 at 8:29 pm | #

    Handling traumatic events and the sum total of life choices you’ve made by Girlbossing your way through it is….regrettably super *socially* rewarded. People love you being Tough and Capable and Totally Over (Whatever). Not, like. Specific people in her life. But the world at large? Oh baby.

  52. endplanets
    endplanets
    February 9, 2025 at 12:03 am | #

    Making the ‘doomer wojak’ face

  53. LittleBigSteve
    LittleBigSteve
    February 9, 2025 at 12:20 am | #

    Can’t mess up the shower caddy…

    IT’S CANON!

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Stop making the one toy I want the super-expensive chase, Auldey!!!!
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
And that's why you have Jesus wear a condom!
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
It's #webcomicday? We have a special day??? Well, my name is Pat McHoarney and I draw 69 Mouse-Ear Blvd, a multigenerational story about women who all have sexy legs and probably other features. There was a grandmother, but she wasn't hot and so she died off-panel.
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