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by David M Willis on January 21, 2011 at 12:01 am
  • 03 - Men are from Beck, Women are from Clark
└ Tags: danny, joe

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  1. Zap
    Zap
    January 21, 2011 at 12:03 am | #

    Yeah, I’m with Joe on this one.

    • Joe
      Joe
      January 23, 2011 at 1:14 pm | #

      Stuff I learned about attracting women in College:
      1.Be an athlete (one check)
      2. Don’t be a comp sci major (canceled out the first check)
      3. Take a lot of psychology classes (because there are way, way more female psych majors than male ones)
      4. NEVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES BRING UP WEBCOMICS OR YOUR “BLOG” /sigh

      • Amazo
        Amazo
        January 31, 2011 at 2:21 am | #

        The Leslie av makes your comment… illuminating.

      • Aisling
        Aisling
        May 22, 2015 at 4:29 pm | #

        Join an anime/manga club and find the cute cosplayers.

  2. David Herbert
    David Herbert
    January 21, 2011 at 12:03 am | #

    True, Danny may be setting his hopes a little high, but as he points out, he does have experience on these matters, he’s not a total noob.

    • Scott
      Scott
      January 21, 2011 at 12:59 am | #

      True, having had a relationship in the past probably puts him ahead of 70% of the other CS majors. Excluding WoW relations, of course.

      • Dragonman989
        Dragonman989
        January 21, 2011 at 2:15 am | #

        Owch dude that’s harsh dont b dissing the wow nerds

        • Scott
          Scott
          January 21, 2011 at 2:38 pm | #

          No diss intended 🙂

    • Seraph
      Seraph
      January 21, 2011 at 9:10 am | #

      Yes, but unless he learned something from his experience – like how to pay attention to what your partner actually wants, instead of trying to fit them into your own perfect life fantasy – his experience won’t be any help to him. Remember, his three-year relationship ended with him being completely blindsided by what his girlfriend actually wanted out of life.

      • Justme
        Justme
        January 23, 2011 at 9:03 pm | #

        Not trying to contradict or anything, I know he was being nearly clueless with the hints she kept dropping, but being blindsided like that doesn’t mean it’s HIS fault. I dated a wonderful woman and we complimented each other nicely. After 9 months of dating, I proposed. Our engagement went on for more than a year. A year after we’re married, I notice she’s not happy and she doesn’t want to talk about it. Eventually it comes out that she didn’t apply what she wanted in a hubby to me until AFTER we were married. So I was fun to date, fun to be engaged to, but not what she wanted in a hubby. Totally blindsided cause she didn’t communicate or think until after marriage. Good thing we didn’t have kids.

  3. Sporkaganza
    Sporkaganza
    January 21, 2011 at 12:04 am | #

    I think whether or not he’ll have a chance depends entirely upon what the other guys in that class are like.

    • maggiemarmalade
      maggiemarmalade
      January 22, 2011 at 10:55 am | #

      He has no hope against Shaggy.

  4. Abjuron
    Abjuron
    January 21, 2011 at 12:06 am | #

    “So you’re scoring zero for one, with your penis?”

    • NF
      NF
      January 21, 2011 at 12:30 am | #

      Wow, that line makes complete sense now.

    • Björn
      Björn
      January 21, 2011 at 5:18 am | #

      What does “scoring zero for one” mean?

      • Seraph
        Seraph
        January 21, 2011 at 9:16 am | #

        Either Danny and Dorothy never had sex – a score of zero in Danny’s one relationship – or Joe believes that Danny bollixed his relationship with Dorothy so totally that it counts as a total loss. If it’s the latter, I kinda agree, at least based on what we saw.

      • Glooble
        Glooble
        January 21, 2011 at 9:43 am | #

        Scoring, to Joe, means having sex. Since Danny and Dorothy haven’t, he regards that relationship as a failure.

        • Loki
          Loki
          January 21, 2011 at 10:45 am | #

          It could also be zero for one because it ended so poorly.

          • Jetstream
            Jetstream
            January 21, 2011 at 7:12 pm | #

            I’d say it’s more likely a zero because Joe has zero respect for actual relationships.

        • Kamino Neko
          Kamino Neko
          January 22, 2011 at 8:27 am | #

          Word of God: Danny and Dorothy had sex.

      • Brady Kj
        Brady Kj
        January 23, 2011 at 5:07 pm | #

        It means he played one game and did not win it. It’s sports terms, so I was puzzled at first too.

  5. ProtonCon
    ProtonCon
    January 21, 2011 at 12:08 am | #

    Ah but Joe you didn’t take into account those other students don’t have names.

    • Cratacon
      Cratacon
      January 21, 2011 at 12:08 am | #

      They do so. Shaggy is banging Amber as we speak.

      • Bill M.
        Bill M.
        January 21, 2011 at 12:40 am | #

        Oh, please. Shaggy’s after Roz.

        • Undrave
          Undrave
          January 21, 2011 at 1:16 am | #

          Shaggy needs a speaking part now.

          • dchorror
            dchorror
            January 21, 2011 at 3:15 am | #

            But would it lead to disappointment?

        • EmpressTohru
          EmpressTohru
          January 21, 2011 at 4:08 am | #

          Wow…my flaw where I read everything wrong for the first couple seconds strikes again.

          Saw that as “Oh please. Shaggy’s after Faz” >.>

          • Osaru Sensei
            Osaru Sensei
            January 21, 2011 at 5:27 am | #

            Oh, he is. You just won’t see it right now. 😀

          • Cratacon
            Cratacon
            January 21, 2011 at 5:06 pm | #

            I think Shaggy could do better than Faz.

          • Rognik
            Rognik
            January 22, 2011 at 1:47 am | #

            ANYONE is better than Faz! (No offence to Faz-fans.)

          • EmpressTohru
            EmpressTohru
            January 22, 2011 at 2:25 am | #

            There are Faz-fans?

            • Plasma Mongoose
              Plasma Mongoose
              April 10, 2011 at 1:04 am | #

              Not fans per say but you have to admit, he can makes things more interesting from a reader’s POV.

  6. Xartarin
    Xartarin
    January 21, 2011 at 1:06 am | #

    What Joe isn’t taking into account is the fact that Amber is secretly a super hero, which changes everything.

    Unless Amber has saved anyone else from computer science, Danny’s clear for “Lois Lane” status.

    • Undrave
      Undrave
      January 21, 2011 at 1:37 am | #

      Joe is also a superhero, notice how his cape has dissapeared from his bed in the background? Obviously he’s walking off panel to change into his alter-ego. Probably some sort of purple Pimp-themed hero.

      • David
        David M Willis
        January 21, 2011 at 1:40 am | #

        Nah. At first they’re standing in front of Danny’s bed, but then Joe walks past Danny and the “camera” moves to in front of Joe’s bed.

        • Malph
          Malph
          January 21, 2011 at 3:06 am | #

          Don’t ruin Joe being a pimp-themed superhero for us.

          Damn it, someone draw Joe as a Super Pimp! I would, but I suck at drawing.

          • dchorror
            dchorror
            January 21, 2011 at 3:17 am | #

            I would, but I’m still working on a BilliexWalky piece. Things taking forever.

          • maggiemarmalade
            maggiemarmalade
            January 22, 2011 at 10:57 am | #

            I have a half-finished piece of fan art of Ethan dressed as Elton John, will that do?

  7. goatman95111
    goatman95111
    January 21, 2011 at 1:07 am | #

    Gotta love it how the female in anthropological studies is actually the one who initiates flirting and the social game to work towards finding a mate, but the male is expected to practically beat her upside the head and drag her away in classic caveman fashion.

    Someone explain to me again why I don’t just use sperm donation centers as a cheap means to raise my clone army of Boba Fetts?

    • Undrave
      Undrave
      January 21, 2011 at 1:17 am | #

      Not enough quality control.

      • goatman95111
        goatman95111
        January 21, 2011 at 2:43 am | #

        Good point, though quality doesn’t matter so long as I have numbers of clone troopers. I can worry about acquiring an apprentice later.

        • Jimmy Suzuki
          Jimmy Suzuki
          January 21, 2011 at 9:26 am | #

          I love how your avatars make it look like Amber and Dina are talking.

        • Undrave
          Undrave
          January 22, 2011 at 9:16 pm | #

          They won’t grow as fast as clones either.

          • goatman95111
            goatman95111
            January 24, 2011 at 10:36 am | #

            Doesn’t really matter, as I imagine in 30 years, when the timing is right, they will all be in place. Wait, is this getting too creepy to talk of clone troopers and a surgical strike?

  8. dchorror
    dchorror
    January 21, 2011 at 3:19 am | #

    Hate to be the one to bring it up again, but it should be pointed out his conversation was don’t talk to me and you look like someone I used to date.

    That just might be an “out.”

    • Loki
      Loki
      January 21, 2011 at 10:47 am | #

      They talked about the class after that, on a less “don’t talk to me” level.

  9. Zem
    Zem
    January 21, 2011 at 6:01 am | #

    OK, Joe’s putting waaay too much emphasis on this whole thing. Does he even know who goes to his class? Is girls from that class everyone’s only option from the whole campus?

    Or maybe computer class girls are some sort of nerdy prom queen equivalent. Which, IMO, sounds bull.

    • The E-man
      The E-man
      January 21, 2011 at 2:29 pm | #

      No it’s not that, it’s just computer science chicks, let alone hot computer science chicks, are incredibly rare. Since the stereotypical comp sci geek is the antisocial kid who’s never talked to girls before, he thinks he might have a chance with this girl who’ll understand what he’s talking about when he goes off on a computer nerd rant.

      So now you have, say a 60-person class with one girl. That’s at minimum 40 guys who might be competing for her attention.

      Now this isn’t the case at most, if not all colleges, but it is more common than you might think.

  10. ziggy78eog
    ziggy78eog
    January 21, 2011 at 8:56 am | #

    I have to give Danny the argument on this. He might have been misguided on his idea of a relationship, but at least he was looking for something beyond a notch on his bed post. I honestly cannot wait for the strip where Joe’s misogyny and womanizing causes him to get the shit beat out of him.

    • Rbrittain
      Rbrittain
      January 21, 2011 at 2:03 pm | #

      I have to point out that Joe does sort of know what he’s talking about. As usual, if you take his viewpoint into account, Joe is right about pretty much every practical point. And Danny really doesn’t know what he’s talking about- he dated Dorothy for three years without realizing that she pretty much despises him and was looking to dump him for something better the first chance she got.

      Joe only wants one thing, but he’s totally honest about that fact. No girl is going to be fooled into thinking Joe wants a relationship unless she’s as dumb as Joyce, and only Joyce is that dumb in the entire world. Joe doesn’t have any obligation to want a relationship- he’s entitled to go on doing his thing as long as it makes him happy.

      Danny, on the other hand, is completely ignorant about relationship dynamics. He could stand to be more like Joe even if what he wants is a relationship instead of strings-free sex, because Joe’s social skills are useful even in that context. As it stands, Danny is completely incompetent at achieving his only goal.

      • ziggy78eog
        ziggy78eog
        January 22, 2011 at 12:36 am | #

        Joe being honest about how he views, and treats, women, is not a justifacation he can/should stand behind. Looking for something beyond a one night stand still gives Danny the advantage; true, his first “relationship” was not a healthy one, but at least he can learn from it, and grow as a person.

        • Rbrittain
          Rbrittain
          January 22, 2011 at 2:02 pm | #

          Why not? There’s nothing wrong with how Joe treats women, if that’s what he wants out of life.

    • Gianni
      Gianni
      January 21, 2011 at 2:18 pm | #

      … By Beef

      …with his penis.

  11. MuleyBob
    MuleyBob
    January 21, 2011 at 10:02 am | #

    Okay, so it’s been nearly two decades since I was in college but I really don’t remember college being so… high school-ish.

    • Loki
      Loki
      January 21, 2011 at 10:48 am | #

      It’s a soap opera. Soap opera characters are always a bit high-school-ish, for maximum drama.

    • Naz
      Naz
      January 21, 2011 at 10:54 am | #

      no..it’s totally High School. My first year of classes, I had a few dorm neighbors who simply could not make a correlation between their actions and the consequences.. Subsequently, those kids were either asked to leave based on poor performance, or they dropped out. They just weren’t ready for college.

    • Bill M.
      Bill M.
      January 21, 2011 at 2:33 pm | #

      Pshaw. If Bowling For Soup has taught me nothing else, it’s that high school never ends.

    • Rognik
      Rognik
      January 22, 2011 at 1:55 am | #

      And one thing not pointed out by the above three: this is still day 3 of college. And there was no (on-camera if any) Frosh Week. Most of the cast is still in high-school mode.So naturally, they’d all be high-school-ish.

  12. MeFailWords
    MeFailWords
    January 21, 2011 at 5:46 pm | #

    1 girl in a million is a slim shot, but might as well give it a shot, Whats the big deal? The worst that could happen is that she says ‘no’. Not the end of the world.

    • Black Bumblebee
      Black Bumblebee
      January 23, 2011 at 4:09 pm | #

      According to the Terry Pratchett law, though, in fiction “one in million chances” tend to work out 9 times out of 10.

  13. Al the Mighty
    Al the Mighty
    January 21, 2011 at 8:43 pm | #

    By this time in Roomies! we would have already seen a lot of girls that have been “joe’d”. I haven’t seen Joe get something in this AU yet, so I can assume he is not as suscessful at that as his counterpart is. That makes me think his abductee power was the pheromones thingy. That would mean his gadget-building skill is natural, so he can build Ultracar in this universe too…

    • David
      David M Willis
      January 21, 2011 at 9:19 pm | #

      Joe didn’t get together with anyone in Roomies! until the end of the first year. (It was Sarah.)

      • Cratacon
        Cratacon
        January 22, 2011 at 4:34 am | #

        But Roomies was partially real-time, while DoA is halfway through day two and it’s mid-January. Extrapolating from that, by the end of his first DoA year he’ll have banged everyone twice.

    • Undrave
      Undrave
      January 22, 2011 at 9:20 pm | #

      He totally Joe’d Roz up already. Possibly during gender study class without anyone noticing. SEX NINJAS!

      • George
        George
        January 22, 2011 at 11:17 pm | #

        Definitely during gender studies. If this Roz is anything like SP’s Roz, she’d enjoy the idea of still being in class.

        • Undrave
          Undrave
          January 24, 2011 at 12:47 am | #

          Did you change your avatar to Leslie on purpose for this response because it makes it hilarious :p

  14. gangler
    gangler
    January 22, 2011 at 9:38 pm | #

    I don’t know why more people don’t take into account the math involved in odds of success. It’s like, if the publishing company gets 2 million books sent to them a year, and every year they accept five new authors, then guess what buddy. You’re not gonna get published. It doesn’t matter if you think you’re the best, or if you have an “In”, you’re still not one of the five.

    Same thing here. If there are hypothetically five hundred men pursuing this woman, and there is only one of her, then move on because your time is wasted here.

    • John Q. Public
      John Q. Public
      January 22, 2011 at 11:36 pm | #

      But if no one gets in, wouldn’t they publish zero books, instead of five?

    • Shade
      Shade
      January 23, 2011 at 7:25 pm | #

      Wrong, it means you’re unlikely to get published, you could be one of those five. If you don’t try you don’t know, if we all only did things with high odds of success instead of taking a chance… that’d be a boring world.

      Oh right Mike avatar. Speaking of doing things with a high rate of success, your mother.

      • gangler
        gangler
        January 24, 2011 at 8:02 am | #

        Oh try for sure, not saying we shouldn’t have dreams. Just don’t put all your eggs in one basket. If you can’t get a decent non author job, or if you’re unwilling to pursue other women aside from the dream girl, then you’re setting yourself up for failure. Should have been more clear on that.

    • Bill M.
      Bill M.
      January 23, 2011 at 8:59 pm | #

      Internet porn has led me to be aware that what lies betwixt the legs is a renewable resource for both parties.

      • gangler
        gangler
        January 24, 2011 at 8:04 am | #

        Valid. Still couldn’t hurt to find something to kill time with while you wait in line though lol. A girl like amber is probably a long wait, seeing as she probably doesn’t move straight from one man to another.

  15. Brady Kj
    Brady Kj
    January 23, 2011 at 4:57 pm | #

    This is entirely unrelated, but I was reading Shortpacked, and is Robin Sarah’s druggy ex-roommate?
    If so, I totally called it.

    • aydr
      aydr
      January 23, 2011 at 11:24 pm | #

      lol, no. Pretty sure that’s not the case. For one, I think this roommate was involved with actual illegal drugs, something which Robin simply has no use for; she has sugar. For another, apparently everyone liked Sarah’s old roommate >_>

      • gangler
        gangler
        January 24, 2011 at 8:05 am | #

        Keep in mind though that this robin wouldn’t have abductee powers. Maybe lacking the high she gets from sugar, she spends her time seeking other highs.

        • The E-man
          The E-man
          January 28, 2011 at 1:31 pm | #

          Why would Robin’s obsession with sugar come with abductee powers? I’m pretty sure it just comes from being Robin.

  16. Kelsey
    Kelsey
    July 8, 2011 at 10:19 am | #

    Relationships are nothing. One-night stands, however, are truly meaningful. Thanks for that advice, Joe!

  17. B.D
    B.D
    March 19, 2015 at 3:46 pm | #

    …This is an amusingly ironic conversation, in retrospect.

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