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by David M Willis on February 27, 2016 at 12:01 am
  • 03 - When God Closes The Door
└ Tags: dina, sarah

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  1. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    February 27, 2016 at 12:01 am | #

    *Sarah promptly vanishes*

    COMIC OVER THANK YOU FOR PLAYING

    • Emperor Norton
      Emperor Norton
      February 27, 2016 at 12:04 am | #

      Who vanished?

      • Tabitha Desanto
        Tabitha Desanto
        February 27, 2016 at 12:05 am | #

        Somebody vanished?

        • syd
          syd
          February 27, 2016 at 12:07 am | #

          Who gave me this starfish?

          • Emperor Norton
            Emperor Norton
            February 27, 2016 at 12:08 am | #

            It just appeared out of thin air.

            • Chinoy Industries, Ltd.
              Chinoy Industries, Ltd.
              February 27, 2016 at 10:40 pm | #

              +10 Internets for the username, all hail the emperor, King of San Francisco! Please tell me I’m not the only one who knows who he is…

              • Harodotus
                Harodotus
                February 27, 2016 at 11:38 pm | #

                I eat his tasty chips all the time. +5 Internets for you for spotting it.

          • gkheyf
            gkheyf
            February 27, 2016 at 12:09 am | #

            for the sake of this joke, i will not remember fuko’s name

            …dang it!

          • MrZombieScordo
            MrZombieScordo
            February 27, 2016 at 2:29 am | #

            I just started watching this and it makes me pretty happy that i already found a reference.

          • Dr. Smart
            Dr. Smart
            February 27, 2016 at 11:35 am | #

            omg i used to love that anime… wish i hadn’t gone to bed early last night now…

          • Roborat
            Roborat
            February 29, 2016 at 2:41 pm | #

            Hey! I got that reference. Yay me. That is one of my favourite Anime ever.

        • Lan
          Lan
          February 27, 2016 at 12:08 am | #

          Wait there was a vanishing? Was a certain “jack” involved?

          • Harvey Janus
            Harvey Janus
            February 27, 2016 at 8:55 am | #

            One with a Candle preceding?

      • John
        John
        February 27, 2016 at 12:10 am | #

        Imp.

        • Julie
          Julie
          February 27, 2016 at 12:41 am | #

          Does that make Dina Regent? Because no.

          • greenergrassgrowing
            greenergrassgrowing
            February 27, 2016 at 12:52 am | #

            Impaired social skills? Fascination with specific kind of animal? Obviously Dinah is Skitter.

            • Disloyal Subject
              Disloyal Subject
              February 27, 2016 at 1:03 am | #

              Taylor didn’t seem to have been particularly fascinated by insects until her power provided incentive. I’d find Rachel a closer parallel, though her behavior is wildly different from Dina’s.

            • evan
              evan
              February 27, 2016 at 2:55 pm | #

              oh my god. I can’t believe I didn’t check the comments last night.

    • Wolf
      Wolf
      February 27, 2016 at 12:18 am | #

      But what about my high score!? THE TOP SHELF PRIZE!

    • MrZombieScordo
      MrZombieScordo
      February 27, 2016 at 2:43 am | #

      Sarah wouldn’t vanish, Dina has object permanence. However, Dina and the rest of the world may vanish. Time will tell if Sarah has object permanence.

    • thomas wrobel
      thomas wrobel
      February 27, 2016 at 11:51 am | #

      If Sarah is in a box with no observation is she really there?
      Is she dead or alive?

      • Ana Chronistic
        Ana Chronistic
        February 28, 2016 at 12:06 am | #

        I’m guessing with the lateness of the comic, it did in fact disappear =’

        • Ana Chronistic
          Ana Chronistic
          February 28, 2016 at 12:11 am | #

          or, more realistically, the newest Firefox ruined my evil “FIRST!” schemes

  2. Nicster216
    Nicster216
    February 27, 2016 at 12:02 am | #

    Sarah isnt great with small talk is she

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      February 27, 2016 at 12:10 am | #

      Dina however is the best ever.

      • Clif
        Clif
        February 27, 2016 at 2:17 am | #

        True.

  3. Tabitha Desanto
    Tabitha Desanto
    February 27, 2016 at 12:02 am | #

    You do Sarah you do.

  4. Foxhack
    Foxhack
    February 27, 2016 at 12:03 am | #

    Sarah, maybe if you stop moving Dina will stop seeing you?

    • gkheyf
      gkheyf
      February 27, 2016 at 12:10 am | #

      discredited

      dina actually sees in 5 dimensions, and circularly-polarized light

      • Gamaran Sepudomyn
        Gamaran Sepudomyn
        February 27, 2016 at 4:23 am | #

        Since when is Dina a mantis shrimp?

        • gkheyf
          gkheyf
          February 27, 2016 at 9:40 am | #

          if you have to ask that, then you clearly haven’t been paying enough attention.

          also cheers for trivia!

    • trlkly
      trlkly
      February 27, 2016 at 3:16 am | #

      Also discredited: that this actually happens to dinosaurs. They do not just see movement, no matter what some movie might have told you. Neither are T-rex’s scavengers, or velociraptors bigger than a chicken.

      I had a paleontologist roommate in college, and he went on and on about the bullshit in Jurassic Park. And this was before the feather thing was found to be so ubiquitous.

      • Gamaran Sepudomyn
        Gamaran Sepudomyn
        February 27, 2016 at 4:23 am | #

        A T. Rex probably had eyesight comparable to an eagle’s, apparently.

      • Huttj509
        Huttj509
        February 27, 2016 at 9:38 am | #

        http://thepunchlineismachismo.com/archives/comic/i-didnt-even-have-a-joke-for-this-week

        Relevant…for given values of relevant.

      • Kryss LaBryn
        Kryss LaBryn
        February 27, 2016 at 10:01 am | #

        Plus they could smell in 3D. Which is awesome.

      • Nice
        Nice
        February 27, 2016 at 9:27 pm | #

        “Neither are T-rex’s scavengers, or velociraptors bigger than a chicken.”
        Then consider it a misidentified Austoraptor cabazai or Utahraptor ostrommaysorum.
        It-Was-A-Book/Movie-For-Heaven’s-Sake.
        Are you going to criticize Harry Potter because science says it’s impossible?

  5. John
    John
    February 27, 2016 at 12:03 am | #

    Only difference between Sarah and Dina, really, is that Dina didn’t have a bat.

  6. Stephen R. Bierce
    Stephen R. Bierce
    February 27, 2016 at 12:03 am | #

    I have the feeling that Sarah will have a long and successful career ahead of her in the field of insurance.

    • Stephen R. Bierce
      Stephen R. Bierce
      February 27, 2016 at 12:06 am | #

      *looks around for some Rufus to play on the hacked Muzak*

      • Jacket
        Jacket
        February 27, 2016 at 12:19 am | #

        *Hacks into the hacked muzak, plays some loverboy*

  7. nobodybasically
    nobodybasically
    February 27, 2016 at 12:03 am | #

    Won’t flipping the chair over just turn it into like a little doghouse? People will still be able to see her crouched under it from the front.

    • Disloyal Subject
      Disloyal Subject
      February 27, 2016 at 12:44 am | #

      Not if she pushes it up against a wall.

      • inqntrol
        inqntrol
        February 27, 2016 at 2:05 am | #

        But won’t she trap herself?

        • Lou
          Lou
          February 27, 2016 at 2:21 am | #

          Only if she still exists!

        • Bagge
          Bagge
          February 27, 2016 at 2:58 am | #

          Then she would never have to deal with people or FEEEELS again.

  8. VioletsAreGay
    VioletsAreGay
    February 27, 2016 at 12:04 am | #

    In the wild, a Sarah may sometimes resort to hiding and ignoring object permanence as a form of fight-or-flight response

  9. Kernanator
    Kernanator
    February 27, 2016 at 12:04 am | #

    A shame Sarah isn’t a shadowdancer. Hide in Plain Sight sure would be handy right about now.

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      February 27, 2016 at 12:11 am | #

      She’s a high level fighter, with weapon specialization in bats.

      • Opus the Poet
        Opus the Poet
        February 27, 2016 at 12:19 am | #

        Besides, it has already been established that Dina is the one with the Hide in Plain Sight feat and a couple hundred points in Hide.

        • Doctor_Who
          Doctor_Who
          February 27, 2016 at 12:21 am | #

          Unfortunately, Toedad’s thick layer of fat gave him Fortification, so he was able to shrug off her Sneak Attack.

          • David M Willis
            David M Willis
            February 27, 2016 at 12:22 am | #

            you mean muscle

            • Cerberus
              Cerberus
              February 27, 2016 at 12:23 am | #

              His body is a temple and it will beat you down if you dare disobey him.

            • Doctor_Who
              Doctor_Who
              February 27, 2016 at 12:26 am | #

              I just figured it was both. He reminds me of one of those retired football players who let themselves go, so they’re still hugely strong but also kinda look like walking couches.

      • Disloyal Subject
        Disloyal Subject
        February 27, 2016 at 12:54 am | #

        Sarah, 2nd level Human Fighter
        STR 15 DEX 9 CON 12 INT 16 WIS 13 CHA 6
        Able Learner, Power Attack, Weapon Focus (Greatclub), Cleave

        • Tandel
          Tandel
          February 27, 2016 at 8:42 am | #

          I’d forgotten human fighters get so many feats so fast.

        • Schol-R-LEA
          Schol-R-LEA
          February 27, 2016 at 7:37 pm | #

          I wouldn’t mention Sarah’s Cleavage too loudly, if I were you.

          • Disloyal Subject
            Disloyal Subject
            February 27, 2016 at 9:43 pm | #

            If you say so, Friend Computer.

  10. Lia47
    Lia47
    February 27, 2016 at 12:04 am | #

    i feel like its rare for dina to address somebody directly by their name. like how hobbes hardly ever says “calvin”

    • John
      John
      February 27, 2016 at 12:08 am | #

      In real speech, it’s actually pretty rare for anyone to do that. One time I managed to get by for months without admitting that I’d totally forgotten my roommate’s name because of that.

      • Reltzik
        Reltzik
        February 27, 2016 at 12:35 am | #

        …. but your ROOMMATES. You couldn’t peek at the addressee on the incoming mail?

        • John
          John
          February 27, 2016 at 1:35 am | #

          We didn’t get mail delivery to the room. I didn’t have a key to his mailbox. To this day I do not know whether the guy’s name was “Mark” or “Mike”. (Or maybe “Matt”? It began with ‘M’, I’m pretty sure about that.) And to be fair, I saw more of my girlfriend’s roommate that semester than I did my own.

          • Bagge
            Bagge
            February 27, 2016 at 2:46 am | #

            My headcanon is that his name was Mark.

          • Mark
            Mark
            February 27, 2016 at 3:34 am | #

            just mention a made up other friend named mark in a story that could be about him, and then if he asks about it, his name is mark. easy.

          • Harvey Janus
            Harvey Janus
            February 27, 2016 at 9:02 am | #

            I saw this one guy routinely every club meeting for a small tabletop gaming club last semester. He wasn’t playing, just observing. It was not until this semester that I learned his name.

          • NotPiffany
            NotPiffany
            February 27, 2016 at 3:12 pm | #

            I’m now picturing you as Bruce Campbell. “Klaatu… verata… necktie… nickel… I know it’s an n-word!”

      • de Combys
        de Combys
        February 27, 2016 at 1:44 am | #

        I say people’s names every two sentences when I’m familiar with them.

        • Ana Chronistic
          Ana Chronistic
          February 27, 2016 at 3:09 am | #

          Are you that one co-worker of mine? ’cause I swear every sentence out of her mouth starts with my name >=| (even within like two minutes of meeting her, and with no introductions!)

          (oddly enough, it took me like six months to hear hers, even after I told her to answer the phone, “say [the company’s name] and your name”–she still only says the company name)

          • de Combys
            de Combys
            March 1, 2016 at 12:00 pm | #

            Can’t be, I’m a guy! Unless she’s actually a guy too. Could be why she doesn’t like saying her name.

    • Dara
      Dara
      February 27, 2016 at 12:11 am | #

      My entire use of language is arranged about never having to use peoples’ names, because before meds it would routinely take me years to learn a new one, so I generally didn’t. That means my phraseology is often kind of strange.

    • 1234
      1234
      February 27, 2016 at 12:36 am | #

      I actually managed to go 4 dates with a girl before learning her name. And that was after sitting next to her in class for half a semester.

      You’d be surprised at how rarely people’s names come up in conversation. That is, when you’re talking to them, not about them.

      • Derek
        Derek
        February 27, 2016 at 7:42 am | #

        Mulva??

      • Gordon
        Gordon
        February 27, 2016 at 7:03 pm | #

        My friend solved this problem. She met a guy in a bar while she was drunk and agreed to a date with him, but in her phone she named him Eyebrows or something like that.

        So while they were out, she pretended like she didn’t believe that he was 28 or whatever and “demanded” to see his ID. He was Nathan. They dated for like 4 months.

        • ChrisHerself
          ChrisHerself
          February 27, 2016 at 9:30 pm | #

          Clever girl.

    • Caitlyn
      Caitlyn
      February 27, 2016 at 12:42 am | #

      It’s actually a great wait to get someone’s attention or show attraction, using their name. Particular if you end a sentence/question with it.

      • Historyman68
        Historyman68
        February 27, 2016 at 3:08 am | #

        Or if you’re a salesman or proselytizer!

      • Willinwoods
        Willinwoods
        February 27, 2016 at 5:43 am | #

        I’m just gonna leave this here: DCiGtH

    • Mollyscribbles
      Mollyscribbles
      February 27, 2016 at 1:19 am | #

      A guy I’d known for two years in high school asked me to the prom (as a friend; he was a grade below and needed a senior as a date to get in). It was only when I was asked to give his name when buying the tickets that I realized I’d spent the past two years referring to him by a nickname.

  11. Mr. Mendo
    Mr. Mendo
    February 27, 2016 at 12:05 am | #

    It seems Sarah’s comeuppance is starting off strong!

  12. Cheshrin
    Cheshrin
    February 27, 2016 at 12:05 am | #

    College! *jazz hands*

    • StClair
      StClair
      February 27, 2016 at 12:14 am | #

      To be fair, most college experiences aren’t like this. Average drama tends more toward the Walky side of the spectrum (“I’m not getting effortless As anymore? I have to study??“), sometimes Carla & Mary, or Billie/Ruth.

      • Pedantic Peanut
        Pedantic Peanut
        February 27, 2016 at 10:17 am | #

        Indeed.

        It’s funny that actually getting through college is often easier for the people who had to work their butts off before.

        For us, college is just continuing the slog of highschool with more parties and beer pong.

  13. Shiro
    Shiro
    February 27, 2016 at 12:05 am | #

    If not for the buffer, I would’ve guessed that this was written specifically to address a comment thread yesterday. Whoa, trippy.

    • Someone
      Someone
      February 27, 2016 at 12:08 am | #

      Next strip is entirely talking about Sierra’s feet

      • Doctor_Who
        Doctor_Who
        February 27, 2016 at 12:16 am | #

        Sarah: Don’t you like Sierra’s feet?

        Dina: Yes, Sierra’s feet are quite amazing, and Faz is cool.

        Suddenly Willis chases Yotomoe away from his tablet with a broom. Then he glances at the screen, shrugs, and decides to publish the strip anyway. Hey, the man’s got twins to look after, and he’s got to keep that buffer up somehow.

        • Someone
          Someone
          February 27, 2016 at 12:30 am | #

          Carol: Hey Becky lets make out

          Becky: Yay!

          Willis: bad Yotomoe bad!

          • inqntrol
            inqntrol
            February 27, 2016 at 2:40 am | #

            Speaking of Yotomoe, where is he? We need him to draw these fanfics pronto!

    • Cerberus
      Cerberus
      February 27, 2016 at 12:14 am | #

      This isn’t the first time that the obsession of the comment thread on one day is more than answered by the comic available on patreon.

      Honestly, Willis must have the self-restraint of an obstinate rhino to resist the urge to just derail comment threads with a *cough cough* 3 strips from now *cough* *cough* type of thing all the time.

      • TamiDOA
        TamiDOA
        February 27, 2016 at 12:34 am | #

        He must smile though when a comment thread takes off a on a tangent that is completely wrong.

        • Roborat
          Roborat
          February 29, 2016 at 2:39 pm | #

          I always pictured him laughing a sinister laugh, and stroking his goatee.

    • LimeSheep
      LimeSheep
      February 27, 2016 at 12:15 am | #

      i didnt see the thread, but ive got a feeling its something that comes up a lot

    • caesaria82
      caesaria82
      February 27, 2016 at 12:16 am | #

      I was thinking the same thing. The thread about the ally angst. Freaky stuff!

      • Spencer
        Spencer
        February 27, 2016 at 12:41 am | #

        …It’s not like focusing on ally angst isn’t a thing that happens in tons of fiction. That it’s not happening in this specific case doesn’t somehow mean that it’s stopped being a highly pervasive trope.

        We were listening to Sarah complain at length about how the problems affecting Joyce and Becky were bothering her, it’s just that that was the intended point and not, like, just the assumption because Sarah is an ally and we’re used to focusing on the allies when bad things happen to queer characters when we read, well, anything.

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          February 27, 2016 at 9:50 am | #

          The flip side to ally angst though is that you either have to drop the angst altogether or keep the LGBT characters wallowing in it. I like that Becky and Carla (and Dina here) aren’t angsty characters. Much like Willis deliberately avoided fridging Becky, I suspect he’s also deliberately avoiding having her suffering and traumatized.

          • Spencer
            Spencer
            February 27, 2016 at 10:13 am | #

            You can and should have sequences where allies react, you just can’t have queer characters suffer where the only focus is on the allies. Likewise, it’s okay to have queer characters suffer and have angst so long as suffering and angsting over how miserable and trying it is to be queer isn’t the only thing they do.

            Two of the best examples of this are shown with Joyce reacting to Becky and Ethan. Right before Becky reveals her new haircut Joyce starts building a romanticized narrative where Becky is sad and alone and crying in her room, so that Joyce can burst in and tell her that gay people are okay i guess and redeem herself for her previous actions, only for Becky to not only be completely fine, but totally brush off Joyce’s attempts at trying to be the atoner, because Becky is not Joyce’s story telling device, with her even bluntly stating “it’s not always about you.”

            Ethan is another example where the Sad Gay Dude lives almost entirely in reaction to his Sad Gay Angst, but like with Becky it excels because it’s always about him. Joyce tries to convince him to go to questioning gatherings because she feels bad about how she treated him, only for Ethan to say that if he’s going to do it, it’s going to be for his own sake, and he’s not going to do it just to soothe Joyce’s conscious. When they actually do go, Joyce practically disappears from the plot because it’s about Ethan, and moves on to how he feels and meeting Danny there. You could remove Joyce and still get Ethan’s story, which, ultimately, is how ally focus should be handled; it’s not about them.

  14. John
    John
    February 27, 2016 at 12:05 am | #

    And it could have been worse, Sarah. You could have gotten Mary.

    • Someone
      Someone
      February 27, 2016 at 12:32 am | #

      Maybe Mary lacks object permanence? She says what ever she wants to people, because she literally believes they disappear when she can’t see them.

      • Reltzik
        Reltzik
        February 27, 2016 at 12:43 am | #

        And we joyfully forget her presence pretty quickly between the storylines in which she unfortunately exists.

        • StClair
          StClair
          February 27, 2016 at 1:20 am | #

          In much the same way that I only think about splinters when I happen to have one, like right now. :p

    • CJ
      CJ
      February 27, 2016 at 9:37 am | #

      Maybe having Mary wouldn’t be too bad. She doesn’t make much noise and doesn’t do anything that casts a doubt on Sarah’s negative view of humanity. Wouldn’t beeing looked down on be a small price to pay for a non-cognitive-dissonance-inducing roommate?

  15. Dana
    Dana
    February 27, 2016 at 12:05 am | #

    Other people’s object permanence only works when I can see them.

    • gkheyf
      gkheyf
      February 27, 2016 at 12:12 am | #

      ? also, nice

  16. JessWitt
    JessWitt
    February 27, 2016 at 12:05 am | #

    I see Dina behind the chair and can’t help thinking “Hi-dee-ho neighbor!”

    • stevecharb
      stevecharb
      February 27, 2016 at 11:17 am | #

      +1

    • SundaesChild
      SundaesChild
      February 27, 2016 at 11:29 am | #

      Or at least the Home Improvement theme song.
      *uhhhh?!?*

  17. Iceholder
    Iceholder
    February 27, 2016 at 12:06 am | #

    Where’s a pile of sand to stick your head in when you need it.

  18. Jacket
    Jacket
    February 27, 2016 at 12:06 am | #

    Sarah should get four of them and make a fort. Then she has this big space for herself!

    • Wolf
      Wolf
      February 27, 2016 at 12:14 am | #

      “Perfect for those long nights when you need to be somewhere but you can’t!”

      • Hoxton
        Hoxton
        February 27, 2016 at 1:32 am | #

        Like prison?

  19. Dara
    Dara
    February 27, 2016 at 12:09 am | #

    It’d be neat if some objects lacked object permanence. Slight-of-hand magicians would lose out but everything else would be hilarious. And confusing.

    • Wolf
      Wolf
      February 27, 2016 at 12:10 am | #

      With enough people, that could happen.

      • Wolf
        Wolf
        February 27, 2016 at 12:13 am | #

        Jacket, you’re not posing as me.

        Now if you had my Email…

        • Dallas
          Dallas
          February 27, 2016 at 12:15 am | #

          I could give it to him right now…

          • Hoxton
            Hoxton
            February 27, 2016 at 12:57 am | #

            Dallas, no.

  20. Amanda
    Amanda
    February 27, 2016 at 12:11 am | #

    “I have object permanence” might be my favorite punchline.

    Also :((((((((((((( at everything.

    • Just Me
      Just Me
      February 27, 2016 at 12:16 am | #

      To be honest, I don’t get that. What did Dina mean by saying she had object permanence?

      • Wolf
        Wolf
        February 27, 2016 at 12:17 am | #

        “Object permanence is the understanding that objects continue to exist even when they cannot be observed (seen, heard, touched, smelled or sensed in any way).”

        • Uniqueantique
          Uniqueantique
          February 27, 2016 at 12:19 am | #

          “If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there, does it make a noise?”

          • TamiDOA
            TamiDOA
            February 27, 2016 at 12:23 am | #

            I don’t think I have object permanence. I fell in the forest and the only thing that was heard was the sound of one hand clapping.

            • Amanda
              Amanda
              February 27, 2016 at 12:27 am | #

              But did you figure out why a raven is like a writing desk on the way down?

              • TamiDOA
                TamiDOA
                February 27, 2016 at 12:42 am | #

                No, but I did figure out why the bowl of Petunia’s popped into existence and immediately thought “oh no not again”.

                • Clif
                  Clif
                  February 27, 2016 at 2:22 am | #

                  Whales are like that.

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          February 27, 2016 at 9:36 am | #

          See, I read it backwards: “I have object permanence” as in I won’t go away if you can’t see me.
          Which I’m not actually sure is true for Dina. It might explain her door ninja qualities. 🙂

      • Amanda
        Amanda
        February 27, 2016 at 12:26 am | #

        Just that Sarah hiding won’t make a difference, Dina will remember she’s there.

        Babies don’t have object permanence, which means that when you play peek-a-boo with them they actually think you’re gone when you hide your face. Understanding that stuff is still there even though you can’t see it develops around 4-7 months.

        • Leorale
          Leorale
          February 27, 2016 at 1:03 am | #

          It’s theoretically a big part of why babies drop items from their high chairs – they’re learning that when you retrieve it, it’s still the same object. I have promised my older brother that I’ll keep small items in my pockets, so that when his eventual baby drops a spoon or whatever, I can give back a crayon… the kid isn’t even conceived yet but I’ve already been forbidden from babysitting duty. Win!

          • Bagge
            Bagge
            February 27, 2016 at 2:44 am | #

            We tied a string to the spoon and tied it to the chair. It made retrieval easier for everyone involved.

            • Leorale
              Leorale
              February 27, 2016 at 5:30 pm | #

              That is a really good idea.

  21. Cerberus
    Cerberus
    February 27, 2016 at 12:17 am | #

    Honestly, it’s actually pretty awesome that Sarah at least recognizes that it would be bad form to expect the person more central to a tragedy to provide emotional support for her reflected traumas as that’s not always a thing.

    Now she just needs to work on not overreacting when she messes up.

    • Uniqueantique
      Uniqueantique
      February 27, 2016 at 12:21 am | #

      Or maybe that she is acknowledging that Joyce actually played a very small part in the last drama, and is embarrassed that she was moaning over Joyce and ignoring Becky and Dina’s very real part in it.

      • Cerberus
        Cerberus
        February 27, 2016 at 12:28 am | #

        Mm, while that’s an important point, I don’t think it’s one that Sarah was making. After all, she says “I am (that word)ing about being tragedy adjacent”.

        Basically, she was complaining about how hard it is to deal with a traumatized Joyce falling out of that whole clusterfuck not realizing that she was talking to one of the two people who actually were chased after with a gun.

        Also, as far as Joyce and trauma goes, he did point a gun at her face and shoot off the gun immediately afterwards (albeit upwards) before kidnapping her best friend in front of her. That’s at least equally traumatizing as Dina’s situation (though certainly Becky got the worst of all worlds in the whole affair).

        • merbrat
          merbrat
          February 27, 2016 at 1:13 am | #

          Plus, Sarah had been watching Joyce dealing with many things that have been chipping-away at her faith/innocence. Ross et al was just the cherry on top of Joyce’s Sundae-bloody-sundae.

    • Sam
      Sam
      February 27, 2016 at 1:02 am | #

      I recently learned there’s a name for this! It’s called the Ring Theory, where you comfort those closest to the tragedy and vent to those less involved; comfort in, dump out. If you’re in the center of the tragedy you can vent to the world. If you’re on the peripheral, suck it up.

      Dina’s closer to the center of this clusterfuck than Sarah. By all rights Dina should be complaining to Sarah instead.

  22. Uniqueantique
    Uniqueantique
    February 27, 2016 at 12:18 am | #

    Finally, someone (of course it’s Sarah) acknowledges that Joyce was a bystander in this latest drama, and only involved as an aggressor, riding with Sal, and punching out Toedad.
    Gee, fancy that. Joyce is not the center of the universe, other people have been hurt much worse that she has. She just attracts the most attention.

    • Riku
      Riku
      February 27, 2016 at 12:42 am | #

      She wasn’t just a bystander, she’s as much a part of it as Dina. And she’s been dealing with basically everything she’s known falling apart around her

      • LimeSheep
        LimeSheep
        February 27, 2016 at 2:21 am | #

        youre right that shes not a bystander, but she was threatened while dina was actually pursued and attacked.
        its not exactly on the same level.

    • Disloyal Subject
      Disloyal Subject
      February 27, 2016 at 1:00 am | #

      She was just as threatened at the fountain. Dina is merely pointing out that she wasn’t technically chased.

    • Pat
      Pat
      February 27, 2016 at 1:49 am | #

      Dina and Joyce both attacked him. I’m not sure how attacking him can happen without being involved.

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      February 27, 2016 at 9:28 am | #

      Of course, while Dina may have been more directly involved with the action, Joyce has been more affected by the fallout. As far as we know, neither of Dina’s parents have been sympathetic to Toedad. Nor is the violation of trust the same, since Ross wasn’t someone she’d known and relied on as an adult since her childhood.
      Joyce has plenty of reason for angst here and Sarah has plenty of reasons to be worried about her.
      Honestly, Becky, Joyce and Dina all have plenty of reason to be traumatized and should all be getting some kind of counseling to help them process it. Even if Becky & Dina aren’t showing any obvious signs.

  23. caesaria82
    caesaria82
    February 27, 2016 at 12:26 am | #

    I love how many strips we’re getting to spend with these two awesome, multi-dimensional, complex, smart, strong, fully-realized WoC characters :3

  24. -Sentinel-
    -Sentinel-
    February 27, 2016 at 12:31 am | #

    Sarah, don’t you mean “bongoing”? Not “bit’ching”.

    • caesaria82
      caesaria82
      February 27, 2016 at 12:41 am | #

      lol imagine if the bongo filter was implemented in the actual comic as well, that’d be hilarious and probably technically impossible xD

    • trlkly
      trlkly
      February 27, 2016 at 2:18 am | #

      Wait–does bongo mean that word? I thought it meant asshole this entire time.

      If it means the “B-word,” then I fully understand what Willis did. While it can have its place, it is often quite misogynistic.

      • Harvey Janus
        Harvey Janus
        February 27, 2016 at 9:14 am | #

        IIRC it was implemented because of the strip with Roz delivering a “Reason You Suck” Speech to Joyce after her epiphany about gay people, most people in the comments section were calling Roz a bongo. Though I could be wrong, my memory is blurring together if it’s further than 2 weeks.

  25. Reltzik
    Reltzik
    February 27, 2016 at 12:33 am | #

    Someone called “make a fort out of that chair”. Who was that? Come up and claim your bragging rights!

    • john
      john
      February 27, 2016 at 9:49 am | #

      …that was Mr. Willis himself, in the hovertext of yesterday’s comic.

  26. Someone
    Someone
    February 27, 2016 at 12:38 am | #

    Ive come to realize that I spend more time commenting on the commenters, then the actual comic.

    • TamiDOA
      TamiDOA
      February 27, 2016 at 12:47 am | #

      We have to do something to fill the 23 hours and 59 minutes until the next panel.

    • Reltzik
      Reltzik
      February 27, 2016 at 1:12 am | #

      AND SO IT BEGINS.

      … er, wait, it began when you commented on the comic.

      AND SO IT MOUNTS.

      …. no, technically accurate, but an unfortunate alternative interpretation.

      AND SO IT GROWS.

      … same problem.

      AND SO IT ESCALATES.

      Doesn’t flow right.

      YUP YOU’RE SCREWED.

      Perfect.

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      February 27, 2016 at 2:38 am | #

      Yup! We have conversations and stuff. Very interactive.

  27. Rukduk
    Rukduk
    February 27, 2016 at 12:43 am | #

    Sarah, just because you realize your foot is in your mouth, doesn’t mean you have to cut off your leg as you spit it out.

  28. theheroesofcrash
    theheroesofcrash
    February 27, 2016 at 12:45 am | #

    Am I the only one who saw the title “Oh ho ho”, and read it in Strong Bad’s voice? As in “Oh-ho-ho! Devilish laugh!”

    Like here:

    http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail91.html

  29. Sam
    Sam
    February 27, 2016 at 12:57 am | #

    Sarah’s a little self-centered, isn’t she? At least she realized how dickish she was being mid-comic this time.

    • doubleW
      doubleW
      February 27, 2016 at 2:13 am | #

      Being surrounded by tragedy can take a toll on a person. I’ve had a similar situation; a year ago, I had a roomie literally die (heart attack! at 19!). She really does need to move towards some kind of action, though. Or at least changing her social context.

      • doubleW
        doubleW
        February 27, 2016 at 2:16 am | #

        I phrased that poorly; she shouldn’t ditch the people she knows now, but if you value people being reasonable and effectual, the you need to put yourself in a position to encounter such folks instead of browsing on your phone. ‘Seize control of your life’ requires a verb.

    • Spencer
      Spencer
      February 27, 2016 at 10:17 am | #

      Every character in the comic is a little self centered, and also a little altruistic, and also a little bit of a lot of things.

      • Tenn
        Tenn
        February 27, 2016 at 7:33 pm | #

        Wait… are you saying they’re supposed to be humans?

        All this time, I thought they were robots!

    • Dana
      Dana
      February 27, 2016 at 7:58 pm | #

      I suppose Sarah’s misanthropy and what self centeredness she has are quite interrelated. I love Sarah, and Raidah is not in a position to make a good appraisal of her, but what negatives she sees are mostly there.

  30. GreyDefender
    GreyDefender
    February 27, 2016 at 1:05 am | #

    Daily DoA ritual:
    Read comic.
    Read alt-text.
    Read Ana Chronistic’s post.

    • inqntrol
      inqntrol
      February 27, 2016 at 1:42 am | #

      A new religion should be created out of this.

    • Cephalo the Pod
      Cephalo the Pod
      February 27, 2016 at 4:20 pm | #

      Otherwise knows as the Willis, the Strip and the Holy Post.

      • ChrisHerself
        ChrisHerself
        February 27, 2016 at 9:40 pm | #

        *polite applause*

        • Clif
          Clif
          February 27, 2016 at 11:41 pm | #

          Impolite applause. How dare the Pod succeed where I failed.

  31. Leorale
    Leorale
    February 27, 2016 at 1:14 am | #

    I knew a cat who didn’t have object permanence. Like you’d walk around the corner inside the apartment and he’d MOW piteously because he was all alone forever. (He also couldn’t meow properly. Or jump, or climb, or use the litter box successfully. He wore a diaper, attached by starbucks-green lederhosen, over partially shaved floofy fur. One ear stood up, the other was permenantly deflated, and his whiskers were all askew, so he looked quite quizzical. He was so dumb that when he fell over for no reason — which happened a lot because gravity is hard — he didn’t even land on his feet. Everyone loved him very very much.) :3

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      February 27, 2016 at 3:11 am | #

      That’s adorable… I think.

      CAT!!!

      • Leorale
        Leorale
        February 27, 2016 at 5:34 pm | #

        mmMOW

  32. Tomas
    Tomas
    February 27, 2016 at 1:25 am | #

    Now THAT is how an “um, actually” is DONE.

  33. buzzsaw
    buzzsaw
    February 27, 2016 at 1:30 am | #

    Is this where Sarah either (a) starts reading some really horrendous poetry or (b) destroys the Earth so that interstellar bypass can be built?

    • buzzsaw
      buzzsaw
      February 27, 2016 at 1:38 am | #

      Dammit. And I screw up the difference between Vogons and Ravenous Bugblatter beasts of Traal.

      • Dean
        Dean
        February 27, 2016 at 8:47 am | #

        You should at least make sure that you know where your towel is.

  34. Bagge
    Bagge
    February 27, 2016 at 1:47 am | #

    “Actually, the events were slightly different. Actually, I have object permanence.” Dina is such a nitpicker. 🙂

    I’m sure there is a dinosaur forum somewhere where the other posters have come to dread “smallerwingspan89’s” post that star with “actually…”

  35. Bagge
    Bagge
    February 27, 2016 at 1:49 am | #

    I’ll bet you anything young Dina actually tested if she has object permanence. She seems like the kind of person who goes through the entire philosophy to test if it applies to herself. “I DO think… yes, by his logic that means I am. Next.”

    • trlkly
      trlkly
      February 27, 2016 at 2:22 am | #

      I can totally see it! We totally need someone to draw it…

      • Bagge
        Bagge
        February 27, 2016 at 2:31 am | #

        Next up, Dina steps in the same river twice. Then she behaves like she wants everyone else to behave.

  36. BenRG
    BenRG
    February 27, 2016 at 2:08 am | #

    Poor Sarah! She’s going through a lot of social angst right now, isn’t she?

  37. Larkle
    Larkle
    February 27, 2016 at 2:20 am | #

    I love that Dina pointed out that she has object permanence. Literally laughed out loud.

  38. Dariu55
    Dariu55
    February 27, 2016 at 3:11 am | #

    “Just bury me now under the chair.”

  39. Chrissy
    Chrissy
    February 27, 2016 at 3:42 am | #

    Sometimes I lack object permanence, but I suspect the remote really DOES cease existing if I’m not looking at it.

  40. My1DigitIQ
    My1DigitIQ
    February 27, 2016 at 4:49 am | #

    No one ever laughs when I play the Object Permanence card in Cards Against Humanity…

  41. Zababcd
    Zababcd
    February 27, 2016 at 5:16 am | #

    The correct grammar is ‘Becky and I’ here, since ‘was’ is a copula. This explains why ‘who’ is used as a relative pronoun, rather than ‘whom’. I insist that no real-life person would ever make this mistake.

    • Peduncle
      Peduncle
      February 27, 2016 at 12:33 pm | #

      This comment wins the Peduncle Seal of Approval.

  42. Charlie Spencer
    Charlie Spencer
    February 27, 2016 at 5:59 am | #

    Time for my (at least) weekly Googling of a phrase used in DoA that I’m completely unfamiliar with and have never been previously exposed to. Today’s winner: ‘object permanence’.

    • LordHaw
      LordHaw
      February 27, 2016 at 7:02 am | #

      You aren’t the only one. I had to google it too!

    • Rebecca
      Rebecca
      February 27, 2016 at 12:20 pm | #

      Object permanence (or lack thereof) is why babies are so fun to play peek-a-boo with. Because for the half second you’re behind the blanket, you literally cease to exist!

  43. neeks
    neeks
    February 27, 2016 at 6:29 am | #

    one has object permanence, the other has permanent objections. together they fight crime!

  44. Bicycle Bill
    Bicycle Bill
    February 27, 2016 at 7:36 am | #

    “Actually, it was Becky and me who were chased with the rifle.”
    —————————
    Which reminds me — did we ever find out what happened to Dina after she jumped Toedad in Dunn’s Woods?  Was she just temporarily stunned after he tossed her to the ground, or did he do something else — like KO her with the butt of the rifle — that further incapacitated her?

    • Lord Stoneheart
      Lord Stoneheart
      February 27, 2016 at 7:54 am | #

      She was probably just temporarily stunned on the ground. Remember that Ross saw Becky across the field. He probably immediately went back to his car to chase after her.

      I’m not sure why everyone speculates that something worse happened to Dina in that scene.

      • CJ
        CJ
        February 27, 2016 at 9:28 am | #

        Because Toedad is a monster. Anything additional he die to her would just emphasize his monstrosity (as if he needed that).

        • Lord Stoneheart
          Lord Stoneheart
          February 27, 2016 at 10:55 am | #

          Well Willis didn’t fridge any of his characters just to demonstrate just how bad Toedad was. And honestly I’m glad about that.

  45. Will
    Will
    February 27, 2016 at 8:01 am | #

    I think the big arc for Sarah coming up will be her recognizing she is less resilient to setbacks and failures than others around her. She is honestly pretty similar to Walky in that neither of them responds to challenges that require hard work particularly well. I think if Joyce recovers some of her sunny disposition (which she probably will), Sarah might wonder why others can succeed after facing greater difficulities than she has faced. Being around people who overcome huge problems might help her overcome the self-fulfilling prophecy of her fatalism.

    Of course, I don’t know anything. So ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    • SundaesChild
      SundaesChild
      February 27, 2016 at 11:41 am | #

      Honestly, she needs perspective more than anything. It looks like she sees her failures as greater in either number or magnitude than her peers – probably both. So that fatalism is sometimes directed outwards – her sometimes hostile actions – but more often is self-targeted. “Of course I screwed up. Why would I think otherwise?” Think of the disastrous “friendly experiment,” or her immediate reaction to her selfish moment here. She’s convinced she can’t socialize, and is a terrible friend – and so she is.

  46. Deanatay
    Deanatay
    February 27, 2016 at 8:56 am | #

    Man, I WISH I could make things stop existing by not looking at them.

    Soo… many… things…

  47. Raza
    Raza
    February 27, 2016 at 9:51 am | #

    Object permanence. :). Someone has been reading his child development books!!!

  48. Wublub
    Wublub
    February 27, 2016 at 10:20 am | #

    I knew Dina was short, but I didn’t realize HOW short until just now when I noticed that she was standing up behind that chair and not crouching like I thought she was.

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      February 27, 2016 at 10:36 am | #

      I find it adorable that Dina spend this entire conversation peeking over the chair

  49. Evan
    Evan
    February 27, 2016 at 10:54 am | #

    That uncomfortable moment when you realize its not all about you.

    • Spencer
      Spencer
      February 27, 2016 at 8:29 pm | #

      Thankfully that never happens to me, as I am literally the most amazing and important human being to ever live throughout all known history, and all history to come.

  50. SundaesChild
    SundaesChild
    February 27, 2016 at 11:34 am | #

    Oh geez, Sarah. Guilt cycles are the worst, especially since they lead to self-fulfilling prophecies.

  51. Miles
    Miles
    February 27, 2016 at 11:50 am | #

    Wow… Despite not having the best social skills Dina is a freaking mental fortress. Lesser Humans would have been scared for life by less then what she went through and be ultra sensitive about it. Dina here is all like… Yeah I was part of that.
    Dina really is someone to look up to.

  52. A Scientist
    A Scientist
    February 27, 2016 at 11:56 am | #

    I see Dina is trying her hand at being Wilson W. Wilson, Jr. these days.

  53. Rebecca
    Rebecca
    February 27, 2016 at 12:19 pm | #

    I’m stealing that response – “I have object permanence.”
    I don’t know when I’ll be able to use it but I love it.

  54. Lulu
    Lulu
    February 27, 2016 at 1:03 pm | #

    Having trouble figuring out if the alt text means “No [Sarah], sometimes it is useful to have object permanence” or supporting her with “Sometimes not having object permanence is useful.”

    • evan
      evan
      February 27, 2016 at 2:54 pm | #

      The latter—the former would have a comma to denote the separate clauses

  55. Sunny
    Sunny
    February 27, 2016 at 2:38 pm | #

    Sympathy through moderate physical contact incoming?

    • Spencer
      Spencer
      February 27, 2016 at 3:32 pm | #

      Sarah only gets sympathy through physical contact with Other Jacob.

      • Sunny
        Sunny
        February 27, 2016 at 11:30 pm | #

        Eh… I think a hug would do more good here. And Dina has been practising hugs.

  56. Jhon
    Jhon
    February 27, 2016 at 11:09 pm | #

    I have looked for “cube chair” but none have sides or backs as high as the ones shown here. Google has failed me.

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spavel.bsky.social's user avatarPavel🐀 @spavel.bsky.social ⋅ 10d
Who can forget the Swiss-Austrian Union, or its famous capital - Istanbul.
AI generated ad by a company called Travello showing the 10 most visited cities in Europe, except the cities are hilariously poorly placed. London is in Wales, Paris is in Ireland, Rome is in France, Rom (yes like Rome but without an E) is in Spain, Barcelona is in Morocco, Prague is in Germany, Vienna is in Italy, Istanbul is in Austria, Milan is in Libya, and Antalya is correctly shown as in Turkey but is in the wrong place. Also a few of the borders like Switzerland and Austria or Hungary and Slovenia are missing.
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 19h
*at the very end of Andor, cassian travels through a vortex that makes everyone look a decade younger*
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 20h
(May 14, 2026)
a bemused lucy watches as somebody collapses on her dorm room floor
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 20h
wilbur, savvy enough to know he's in a comic strip but still not a great actor, awkwardly lifts a muffin up into frame so that we, the audience, understand that he has a muffin right now, which is very important narratively, but he's not really selling it well as an organic, human action
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
Dumbing of Age: "Up" www.dumbingofage.com/2025/comic/b... #webcomics #webcomic #dofa
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Up
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
i mean i... guess there are people who want toy-accurate hyper-articulated original-toy-look guys but in cartoon colors for some reason
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
Fuck you, Clayface!!!
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
www.ebay.com/itm/23609982... selling my LG34 Mindwipe, minus Servant
header image - Transformers Generations TakaraTomy Legends LG34 Wipe (Mindwipe), incomplete | eBay
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Transformers Generations TakaraTomy Legends LG34 Wipe (Mindwipe), incomplete | eBay
Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Transformers Generations TakaraTomy Legends LG34 Wipe (Mindwipe), incomplete at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many pro...
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
Menace Level: up to date on his vaccinations
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
Today in #9ChickweedLane I learned Gran is back from the grave so she can jerk it to furry porn with her daughter
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
www.ebay.com/itm/23609184... 5 hours left on my 4-jet titans return tidal wave
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Transformers Siege on Cybertron Titans Return Tidal Wave incomplete, restickered | eBay
Check out those stickers. They make him look pretty great, actually. That aircraft carrier mode shines. Tidal Wave is loose and incomplete! So there's only four (4) jets!
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
confirming that the reason there's been no Galaxy Version female characters in Blokees until now is that they felt they needed to make Round Lady Thighs For Ladies
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
Dumbing of Age: "For you" www.dumbingofage.com/2025/comic/b... #webcomics #webcomic
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For you
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
y'know there's not an awful lot of rocketeering in The Rocketeer
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wint @dril.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
buddy you came to the wrong ass to fuck
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
Man if they were arresting judges then this'd be the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard but thankfully that's not happening.
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
Stop making the one toy I want the super-expensive chase, Auldey!!!!
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
And that's why you have Jesus wear a condom!
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
It's #webcomicday? We have a special day??? Well, my name is Pat McHoarney and I draw 69 Mouse-Ear Blvd, a multigenerational story about women who all have sexy legs and probably other features. There was a grandmother, but she wasn't hot and so she died off-panel.
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hoanna newsom @bsweet.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
nytimes.com's user avatarThe New York Times @nytimes.com ⋅ 5d
Elizabeth Holmes is in prison for defrauding investors through her blood-testing company, Theranos. Her partner, Billy Evans, is now trying to raise money for a company that describes itself as “the future of diagnostics.” nyti.ms/3FbtZm9
Elizabeth Holmes and Billy Evans, sitting closely on a couch. A headline reads:
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Chris McFeely @chrismcfeely.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
That's the most upsetting LEGO Thing minifig possible
preternia.com's user avatarpreternia @preternia.com ⋅ 3d
LEGO Marvel Studios The Fantastic Four: First Steps Fantastic Four vs. Galactus will release June 1st ($59.99) - bit.ly/3F4uRci #ad
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
what's going on with tariffs right now i dunno, what time is it today
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