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by David M Willis on February 18, 2018 at 12:01 am
  • 03 - Faz Is Great
└ Tags: ethan, mike

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  1. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    February 18, 2018 at 12:01 am | #

    “Hey Ethazoid, wanna give up all your self-worth and dignity for some meaningless smoochin’?”

    “DO I‽‽‽”

    • Architex
      Architex
      February 18, 2018 at 12:02 am | #

      Did you just… interrobang?

      • motorfirebox
        motorfirebox
        February 18, 2018 at 10:02 am | #

        You can’t interrobang in here, this is a family webcomic!

        • Formedras
          Formedras
          February 18, 2018 at 10:48 pm | #

          And yet that ad on the left…

    • Historyman68
      Historyman68
      February 18, 2018 at 12:42 am | #

      This strip is the prelude to interrobang.

      • David DeLaney
        David DeLaney
        February 18, 2018 at 2:48 am | #

        And then, after the inevitable yet totally unforeseen breakup, it becomes … exterrobang ! ?

        –Dave, will symbolize for food

    • Xenocide
      Xenocide
      February 18, 2018 at 3:48 am | #

      And here we have the incredibly rare and woefully under-appreciated interrobang.

      This is an incredibly special & unexpected opportunity to see such a marvellous specimen in its natural habitat; usually exposure to the interrobang is limited to grammatical journals and Wikipedia.

      • Xenocide
        Xenocide
        February 18, 2018 at 3:49 am | #

        – David Attenborough

        (Blockquote cite fail)

        • keithcurtis
          keithcurtis
          February 18, 2018 at 12:06 pm | #

          Much appreciation occurs. I would have said “much liking occurs”, but with this crowd, that would have triggered a pun storm.

          • Nelly Dreadful
            Nelly Dreadful
            February 18, 2018 at 2:29 pm | #

            i appreciate the bred

  2. Synnerman
    Synnerman
    February 18, 2018 at 12:03 am | #

    Oh my heart… Ethan needs so badly. He made Mike’s eyes change. I think onion ninjas are in my room.

  3. tim gueguen
    tim gueguen
    February 18, 2018 at 12:04 am | #

    “Yes, Faz was there, sitting in one of the stalls so you could not see him.”

  4. Shiro
    Shiro
    February 18, 2018 at 12:04 am | #

    This IS the game, Ethan. This is literally it. Staying emotionally detached while you get hung up on the first actual source of sexual attention you’ve allowed yourself to experienced from the gender you’re attracted to. PLEASE find a boyfriend before he’s able to destroy you with this.

    • Shiro
      Shiro
      February 18, 2018 at 12:06 am | #

      Like…I do wonder if panel 5 is 100% sincere, but that’s counter to everything we know of DoA!Mike, so…probably me being optimistic? Idk

      • Nono
        Nono
        February 18, 2018 at 12:12 am | #

        Panel 7 Mike looks more like resignation. Ethan knows Mike is right; he’s offered no illusions. There will never be strings attached. Mike isn’t going to be Ethan’s boyfriend or husband. This would just be a temporary fling, and Ethan shouldn’t be surprised if Mike goes out and screws another guy three hours later.

        Mike is putting it all out on the table, and goes, ‘but you’re still going to want to take the carrot, aren’t you?’. Because better deal with the devil you do than the angel you don’t.

      • Nyzer
        Nyzer
        February 18, 2018 at 12:17 am | #

        Mike in the Walkyverse specialized in being an asshole and yet being brutally honest at the same time. Yeah, it’s sincere, but at the same time he knows Ethan won’t just do it anyway.

      • Cris
        Cris
        February 18, 2018 at 12:18 am | #

        We actually already know Mike’s game!

        http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/04-it-all-returns/percent/

        Panel 5 is totally sincere but leaves some important information about his motive out of it.

        • JetstreamGW
          JetstreamGW
          February 18, 2018 at 12:23 am | #

          But Danny doesn’t seem aware and I don’t know that he’d care.

          • jmsr
            jmsr
            February 18, 2018 at 12:40 am | #

            Danny and Ethan have already discussed their mutual attraction and decided to not go anywhere with it. Because they’d be the worst.

            http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/03-when-god-closes-the-door/chest/

          • Tandel
            Tandel
            February 18, 2018 at 9:11 am | #

            …Yet. He doesn’t know yet.

            Mike’s ability to play the long game is legendary. Do you remember Shortpacked!? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

        • Shiro
          Shiro
          February 18, 2018 at 12:23 am | #

          …true. This conversation is definitely also part of the game, though

      • Nelly Dreadful
        Nelly Dreadful
        February 18, 2018 at 2:30 pm | #

        Mike can be sincere when sincerity would hurt more.

    • JetstreamGW
      JetstreamGW
      February 18, 2018 at 12:22 am | #

      Oh hey you made my point first.

    • Fart Captor
      Fart Captor
      February 18, 2018 at 12:46 am | #

      Pretty much. From Ethan’s angry expression in panel 6, I think he even knows this. But the makeouts are hot and Mike is convenient, so he’ll still fall for it -_-

  5. Passchendaele
    Passchendaele
    February 18, 2018 at 12:04 am | #

    Last-panel Ethan is adorable even if he’s going to do something *very* unwise.

  6. DocHarleen
    DocHarleen
    February 18, 2018 at 12:05 am | #

    I mean, I definitely get Mike here. Makeouts with hot friends that mean nothing are great.

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      February 18, 2018 at 12:12 am | #

      Sierra agrees!

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        February 18, 2018 at 9:24 am | #

        I don’t think she does.
        I don’t read Mandy/Grace/Sierra as “meaning nothing”. Could be wrong, we haven’t seen much of them.

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      February 18, 2018 at 9:21 am | #

      Especially when you can be upfront about them meaning nothing, keep your promise not to touch the guy he has a crush on and still leave them both destroyed emotionally when you’re done.

      I don’t think you get Mike at all. Mike doesn’t care about hot makeouts. Mike cares about hurting people. That’s it.

      • Unusually Angry Hippie
        Unusually Angry Hippie
        February 18, 2018 at 12:18 pm | #

        I think you’ve actually got Mike wrong, or at least, your not seeing the depth. Hurting people is the normal result of his actions, but more importantly, it’s about making them hurt THEMSELVES.

        He’s a catalyst, not a cause. If his ‘victims’ turn out miserable, it’s only because they were always going to be miserable eventually, he just cut through the years of denial and self-deception that usually precedes that. At least, that’s how he’s rationalizing it. Mental illness runs deep.

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          February 18, 2018 at 1:33 pm | #

          Making them hurt themselves makes it better, of course.

          I’m far from convinced there’s anything beyond that. Maybe a rationalization, as you say. Mostly it seems to be a matter of vulnerability and proximity.

        • DocHarleen
          DocHarleen
          February 19, 2018 at 7:51 am | #

          And reminded why I don’t bother commenting on things for the most part anymore, so thanks for that.

      • DocHarleen
        DocHarleen
        February 19, 2018 at 7:50 am | #

        Dang, called out, I guess? All I meant was I’m with Mike on what he’s saying. And I am pro-makeouts. I know Mike likes to hurt people. Apologies for not being clearer, I suppose.

  7. Just for kix
    Just for kix
    February 18, 2018 at 12:05 am | #

    I am happy for Ethan here. Even though this is not going anywhere for Ethan, but he is still able to experience things which otherwise is difficult for him to come to terms with. I hope he doesn’t develop feelings for Mike, but maybe on the other hand that’s not so bad :-/

    • Just for kix
      Just for kix
      February 18, 2018 at 12:07 am | #

      It would be interesting to see what happens when Ethan realizes he needs more than just smooches, but till then ride the ship, Ethan, just ride the ship.

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      February 18, 2018 at 9:26 am | #

      Oh no, this is going somewhere. It’s being very carefully steered.

      I’d say Ethan’s an idiot for falling for it since he knows Mike, but then we’ve got readers falling for it and they’re not distracted by hormones and Mike’s told us what he’s planning.

  8. BBCC
    BBCC
    February 18, 2018 at 12:05 am | #

    On a ‘character as person’ level – Nooooooo, Ethan, no. You KNOW Mike. You know this is going to end badly.

    On an ‘out of universe’ level – Oh, this is going to be a train wreck, and I am SO interested in knowing what’s going to happen.

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      February 18, 2018 at 12:19 am | #

      DoA puts me in a state of constant flux between “Noooo, my poor babies!!!1!” and “Bwahaha, this is going to be a glorious disaster.”

      MTMTE/Lost Light does the same for me. Both the angel and devil on my shoulders can’t look away.

      • BBCC
        BBCC
        February 18, 2018 at 12:43 am | #

        Well, I mean, if a piece of media DOESN’T do that, then what’s the point?

        I mean, three of my favourites (besides DoA) are Game of Thrones, Redwall, and Steven Universe. That state of flux is so normal for me now I just roll with it now.

      • StClair
        StClair
        February 18, 2018 at 1:45 am | #

        Me while reading: Noooo! My poor sweet babies! AUTHOR, WHY MUST YOU TORMENT YOUR CHARACTERS SO?

        Me while writing: This character has been orphaned, whipped, sentenced to death, thrown overboard by pirates, captured by enemy soldiers, near-fatally poisoned, put on trial for his life before an angry mob, tortured in front of his best friend, and thrown into prison again.
        …
        Let’s stab him.

        — fialleril @ tumblr

        • BBCC
          BBCC
          February 18, 2018 at 2:22 am | #

          Me. This is just me.

      • Zee
        Zee
        February 18, 2018 at 11:21 am | #

        Tbh I’ve reached the point where I’ve lost the “Nooo my babies”, and now I’m just like “Bwahahahaha yesss Willis, destroy the foolish mortals. You brought the small pervert? Eeexcellent. The blonde Agent​ of chaos is back? Oh my favourite, how wonderful. I can’t wait to see how his deliciously eeeevil plan works out~”
        Though I don’t actually see mike as a one dimensional evil piece of shit like everyone else does but w/e

    • SunshineTheif
      SunshineTheif
      February 18, 2018 at 9:54 pm | #

      This is exactly why mike is my favorite character. I know that every time he comes around, he’s up to something bad, but it’s so deliriously entertaining from a story standpoint.

  9. DailyBrad
    DailyBrad
    February 18, 2018 at 12:06 am | #

    Ahh, I think maybe this is it. He has been pretty unimpressed with Ethan’s internalized homophobia, and the Joyce relationship. Maybe he wanted Ethan to recognize his neglected needs?

    Then again, maybe he enjoyed himself, too. It’s not like he was a ton more openly enthusiastic in Shortpacked with Amber when they started, either.

    • Arawn
      Arawn
      February 18, 2018 at 1:07 am | #

      Honestly, I think Mike is bored and screwing with people gets him off. . .

      Mike tends to be fairly honest.

    • Kamino Neko
      Kamino Neko
      February 18, 2018 at 10:07 pm | #

      We KNOW why Mike is doing this. It is 100% to mess with Ethan and Danny. He has said so.

  10. shadowcell
    shadowcell
    February 18, 2018 at 12:07 am | #

    “Do You Want to Make Out Some More?”

    another fine book title for Dumbing of Age!

  11. Morrison
    Morrison
    February 18, 2018 at 12:08 am | #

    Mike telling the truth in panel 5 is how he is going to suduce and than dump you Eathan, trying to break your heart with the truth man.

  12. tim gueguen
    tim gueguen
    February 18, 2018 at 12:08 am | #

    It would be interesting to know more of their history. How good of friends were they in high school? Did Mike ever get involved with guys before his recent making out with Ethan?

    • Shiro
      Shiro
      February 18, 2018 at 12:10 am | #

      He did at least hook up with a guy before Ethan, but that was very conspicuously placed where Ethan could see him leave the dude’s room.

    • ObiKemnebi
      ObiKemnebi
      February 18, 2018 at 12:14 am | #

      There’s a scene in an earlier strip somewhere where he was coming out of another dude’s room some pretty blatant implications. I think Mike’s attracted to… whatever is most entertaining at any given moment.

    • Sara Hysaro
      Sara Hysaro
      February 18, 2018 at 12:14 am | #

      There was this one strip where Mike had a one-night-stand with some fellow named Eric.

      • Sara Hysaro
        Sara Hysaro
        February 18, 2018 at 12:15 am | #

        And I am so very late.

    • Emperor Norton II
      Emperor Norton II
      February 18, 2018 at 12:16 am | #

      I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Mike is spite-sexual. If having sex with someone means he’ll be able to spite someone (either the one he’s sleeping with, or someone else), then that’s what turns him on. The physical attributes of his partner is secondary.

    • DailyBrad
      DailyBrad
      February 18, 2018 at 3:30 am | #

      In addition to the stuff people have mentioned, even before college, Mike was known to Ethan as not being straight, at any rate. Ethan mentions it to Amber, who was incredulous before thinking it over, so I don’t know that he’s dated guys exactly, but he’s certainly fooled around with them.

  13. Koms
    Koms
    February 18, 2018 at 12:10 am | #

    Is Mike being Tsundere?

    • lilyliv
      lilyliv
      February 18, 2018 at 12:32 am | #

      While I *personally* don’t think he is, the idea of Mike being all tsundere is… oddly adorable? (Shut up, it’s not like I just like tsundere characters or anything. D-dummy…)

  14. Stephen Bierce
    Stephen Bierce
    February 18, 2018 at 12:11 am | #

    *plays the Doobie Brothers again on the hacked Muzak*
    —You say ‘Comfort me!’
    To anyone who approaches
    Chalkin’ up the hurt
    You live and you learn
    But we both are old enough to know
    That we’d trade it ALL right now
    For just ONE MINUTE of Real Love
    …

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      February 18, 2018 at 9:16 am | #

      Never a bad time for some Doobie Brothers.

  15. Nono
    Nono
    February 18, 2018 at 12:13 am | #

    Well, this finally got me somewhat invested in Mike’s character. Let’s see if some nuance is gonna develop.

  16. Ivy
    Ivy
    February 18, 2018 at 12:15 am | #

    “Find a boyfriend” yeah okay, just gonna go to Gay Men “R” Us and pick one up!

    • Stellar
      Stellar
      February 18, 2018 at 12:22 am | #

      Well there, or, y’know, anywhere other than his dorm room.

    • Shiro
      Shiro
      February 18, 2018 at 12:33 am | #

      …wasn’t that literally an actual plotline in Shortpacked?

      • Stephen Bierce
        Stephen Bierce
        February 18, 2018 at 12:50 am | #

        Yes, the Wal*Mart “manwhore” Robin bought that coincidentally resembled Ethan’s current boyfriend Manny.

    • saltchocolate
      saltchocolate
      February 18, 2018 at 1:27 am | #

      Maybe not quite that easy, but also not so hard if you’re out (and an adorable hunk like Ethan)!

      • Nono
        Nono
        February 18, 2018 at 1:35 am | #

        Self-confidence is a very effective barrier.

        In addition, if you’re a pretty passive guy (like Ethan), ‘hotness’ can actually work against you; either you’re attractive but want people to hit on you (and they won’t because they’re either intimidated or assume a “hot guy like him definitely already has someone attached”), or people just want to use you for your body (see: Jacob). Actually finding someone to date can be more difficult.

        Of course, the best thing to do is to force yourself out there.

        • saltchocolate
          saltchocolate
          February 18, 2018 at 8:23 am | #

          Good points…

  17. Keulen
    Keulen
    February 18, 2018 at 12:16 am | #

    Mike definitely has an ulterior motive behind his making out with Ethan.

  18. Dean
    Dean
    February 18, 2018 at 12:16 am | #

    Despite all of his protests, does Mike actually like Ethan? I mean like like?

    • JessWitt
      JessWitt
      February 18, 2018 at 12:21 am | #

      If (and that’s a big IF) he does, this could be a character breakthrough for Mike.

    • BenRG
      BenRG
      February 18, 2018 at 4:21 am | #

      I’m not sure he has a brain wired up correctly to ‘like’ like someone. He clearly enjoys certain people’s company and is not antisocial in any way. However, romantic attraction in a non-abusive scenario just doesn’t seem to be something that he is capable of.

      • Kamino Neko
        Kamino Neko
        February 18, 2018 at 10:10 pm | #

        He’s very antisocial. Virtually everything he does is antisocial. What he isn’t is asocial.

  19. JessWitt
    JessWitt
    February 18, 2018 at 12:20 am | #

    Yes Ethan, please find a boyfriend! This merry-go-round must stop.

  20. Stellar
    Stellar
    February 18, 2018 at 12:20 am | #

    Hah, more proof that the only thing worse than having your first experiences with an experienced partner is having them with an inexperienced one. At least this way only one of them gets hurt.

    • Delicious Taffy
      Delicious Taffy
      February 18, 2018 at 12:51 am | #

      …Eh? Why would an experienced partner be bad?

      • Nono
        Nono
        February 18, 2018 at 1:36 am | #

        Self-esteem issues, mostly. If you’re both new to it you can kinda fumble your way through it together, if you’re nervous about your other partner being much more experienced you might do things you’re not prepared to do yet.

        • Delicious Taffy
          Delicious Taffy
          February 18, 2018 at 4:49 am | #

          I suppose that’s true, for some people. Personally, I prefer an experienced partner, especially a patient one.

      • Stellar
        Stellar
        February 19, 2018 at 7:09 am | #

        As I said, because when it ends only one of you gets hurt.

        As for your sexual preferences, ewww

    • Zee
      Zee
      February 18, 2018 at 11:26 am | #

      Actually I’d prefer an experienced partner. I want someone who actually knows wtf they’re doing so everything is more comfortable

    • vividgrim
      vividgrim
      February 18, 2018 at 3:39 pm | #

      my first (physical) time was with an experienced partner, and that was definitely better than if neither of us knew what we were doing.

    • Fart Captor
      Fart Captor
      February 18, 2018 at 8:44 pm | #

      I don’t think Mike’s experience is the issue so much as his indifference about other people’s feelings.

      He clearly knows Ethan is likely to get hurt here, but he lets Ethan make that mistake anyway because he doesn’t want to be bored.

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        February 18, 2018 at 10:29 pm | #

        That is an extremely generous reading of Mike.

        Hurting is the purpose. He’s told us why he doing this.

        • Fart Captor
          Fart Captor
          February 19, 2018 at 9:04 pm | #

          Oh, I know it’s generous.

          I just think it’s *possible* Mike feels that he’s giving Ethan an out here by telling him this means nothing to him, and that this means that if Ethan keeps doing this anyway and gets hurt, it’ll be his own fault.

          Or, he could just be warning Ethan just to mess with him and/or help Ethan convince himself that he knows what he’s doing.

  21. JetstreamGW
    JetstreamGW
    February 18, 2018 at 12:21 am | #

    This IS his game, Ethan. He’s fucking with you.

    Exactly what’s happening right now. That’s the game.

  22. Paul
    Paul
    February 18, 2018 at 12:32 am | #

    Friends with benefits?

    • Shiro
      Shiro
      February 18, 2018 at 12:34 am | #

      Totally, except there’s 0 chance Ethan would be satisfied with that long term, or wouldn’t catch feels

    • Lingo
      Lingo
      February 18, 2018 at 12:59 am | #

      Friends with detriments.

    • BenRG
      BenRG
      February 18, 2018 at 4:20 am | #

      Mike doesn’t really do ‘friends’ but, yes, I can imagine that his favoured intimate relationship would be just purely done for pleasure without any emotional baggage (preferably not even with names attached).

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        February 18, 2018 at 9:31 am | #

        Mike’s favoured intimate relationship is one where the other party walks right into their emotional torment with their eyes wide open.

        Like Ethan is doing now.

  23. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    February 18, 2018 at 12:34 am | #

    https://imgur.com/a/BMfwY
    I heard through the grapevine that my favorite little creep is back.

    • newllend(henryvolt)
      newllend(henryvolt)
      February 18, 2018 at 12:54 am | #

      I feel like I should tell you the truth, but I’m scared of what you’d do if you’d knew.

    • saltchocolate
      saltchocolate
      February 18, 2018 at 1:30 am | #

      Yeppers, and your hilarious drawing is only slightly off from what’s happening in the actual strip . . .

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      February 18, 2018 at 3:50 am | #

      The dialog is very, very true to the character.

  24. Some1
    Some1
    February 18, 2018 at 12:40 am | #

    Dungeons and Dumbing part 16

    That morning the burly fisherman Askel came out of his room to meet with his strange guests.

    Askel: Morning, I hoped you slept well.

    An exhausted Joyce lifted herself into the air and nudge Walky awake.

    Walky: Five more minutes…

    Dorothy: C’mon Walky, we have places to be.

    Askel: Ah, where are you going?

    Joyce: We don’t really know yet.

    Danny: I need to get in better touch with the goddess. I’m hoping that reaching the top of this mountain will help with that.

    Askel: I have heard a legend that at the very tip of this mountain there lays a marble temple that shines like the sun. However, it will only open up to those who make the journey alone.

    Joyce: We can’t go with him?

    Askel: No, it is meant to be a pilgrimage of solidarity.

    Danny: Well I’ll be seeing you guys.

    Dorothy: Danny wait, lets think about this, we can’t allow you to climb a mountain alone.

    Danny: I’ll handle it.

    Dorothy: Fine but at least take my spell book.

    Joyce: And my sword.

    Danny takes the weapons and fixes them to his belt.

    Danny: Thanks guys.

    Danny puts on his warm clothes and steps out into the snow. He thinks for a moment and then steps back into the room.

    Danny: I have no idea where I’m going.

    Askel: Ah yes, I can guide you to the base of the mountain.

    And so, the two of them set out, walking through the small village and up a peaceful snowy pass. Small animals with white fur can be seen running around. Eventually they come across a steep incline with a sign that reads “Danger”.

    Askel: I’m sorry, this is far as I can tread. You must make the remainder of the journey alone.

    Danny: Thanks.

    Danny started to walk up the snow filled incline. His boots sinking deep into the ice covered snow. Small pieces of snow glanced off his face, and he breathed deeply into the scarf he had wrapped around his mouth and nose. As he climbed the wind picked up and it became harder to see.

    Danny: Jeez, this is what hell would look like frozen over.

    After a while an exhausted Danny came before a large clearing, where it seemed the snow had been trampled down. Giants foot prints of some unknown beast lay on the ground.

    Danny walked carefully around this prints, terrified as he observed the sheer magnitude of the wolf prints that were half the size of his body. Suddenly he heard a panting and slowly looked behind him to see the creator of the prints, a massive white wolf.

    Danny quickly unsheathed Joyce’s sword and pointed the tip at the monster. The monster lunged, but just before it could strike, a massive icy blue hand even bigger then the monster itself seemed to come out of the wind blown snow and lift the beast high into the sky. A massive crunch could be heard and Danny leaped out of the way as the wolf’s head smashed into the snow in front of him.

    Danny watched as a face loomed into view, massive and dripping with wolf blood. It was a young woman, with white hair and white eyes. She eyed him curiously and tried to place a serious look on her face, before she finally broke out into a massive grin.

    Giant Woman: Hello there.

    Danny: “terrified” he…hello.

    Giant Woman: I’m Skadi, what’s your name.

    • Some1
      Some1
      February 18, 2018 at 12:45 am | #

      Thoughts

      1. I’m really sorry I’ve been lacking on updates recently.

      2. I’m starting to worry its a bit to obvious which characters I find the most interesting.

    • King Daniel
      King Daniel
      February 18, 2018 at 12:46 am | #

      All I want to do, is see you turn into, a Giant Woman (a giant woman)…

      • Some1
        Some1
        February 18, 2018 at 12:48 am | #

        I knew someone would make this reference. Also doesn’t really work, she was always a giant woman. Although I may give her the ability to shrink down in order to make her easier to write and interact with Danny.

    • Roborat
      Roborat
      February 20, 2018 at 5:54 pm | #

      So, you are doing a crossover with Katie Rice’s characters now?

  25. nobodybasically
    nobodybasically
    February 18, 2018 at 12:40 am | #

    Mike appears to be headed into a shower.

    Are Ethan and Mike gonna make out in the shower?

    • Delicious Taffy
      Delicious Taffy
      February 18, 2018 at 12:55 am | #

      One of the best environments for it.

      • David DeLaney
        David DeLaney
        February 18, 2018 at 2:53 am | #

        As long as others in the shower, or nearby, don’t mind, anyway.

        –Dave, it occurs to me we have rather less detail on the guys’ floor’s background-y characters…

        • Delicious Taffy
          Delicious Taffy
          February 18, 2018 at 4:42 am | #

          Hey, you wouldn’t hear me complaining.

  26. Kelandrea
    Kelandrea
    February 18, 2018 at 12:41 am | #

    I. Do not know how to feel about this. Poor bby Ethan tho this is not gonna end well for him. Or maybe even mike, honestly.

  27. SmartAlec105
    SmartAlec105
    February 18, 2018 at 1:11 am | #

    What no one realizes is that Mike’s plans always turn out to do good in the end. His plan will someone end up getting Ethan and Danny together.

    • Nono
      Nono
      February 18, 2018 at 1:38 am | #

      Unpopular opinion: Ethan and Danny are good friends, but are both so self-deprecating that if they were to get into a relationship they’d each self-implode after their first fight.

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      February 18, 2018 at 9:33 am | #

      More like, “what everyone pretends”.

      His biggest successes so far were driving Ethan back into the closet and pushing Amber farther into believing she’s a monster.

  28. bluewind
    bluewind
    February 18, 2018 at 1:38 am | #

    At least Mike is being very up front about it. I only hope that the physical contact doesn’t cause Ethan to develop feelings for him. Some people are polyamorous and able to have relationships with more than one person with varying degrees of commitment and emotional attachment (not to be confused with poly fidelity). Some people are aromantic/gray romantic/demiromantic while still having a sexual identity. Some people can seperate those they see as fuck buddies who they have no romantic attachment to and partners who they do. Mike probably fits in one of those categories.

    And then there are people like me and probably Ethan. The serial monogomists who date and fool around with one person at a time and tend to form emotional attachments to people they fool around with. God help um.

    • bluewind
      bluewind
      February 18, 2018 at 1:40 am | #

      Oh no! Forgot which email I used for this and I don’t have my old phone to look O_O

      Oh well. At least I got s better image than grumpy Sarah XD

    • KaitouKidisBae
      KaitouKidisBae
      February 18, 2018 at 1:51 am | #

      Mike might be being up front about his lack of emotional/romantic attachment here, but he’s also being very manipulative with Ethan’s feelings. He already made it clear that he was planning on seducing Ethan (or Danny, he wasn’t picky) to fuck with both of them. So, his words might be up front, but his actions really aren’t. And that makes him a giant asshole IMO

      • bluewind
        bluewind
        February 18, 2018 at 2:04 am | #

        Oh yeah. I totally agree. I’m just saying if Ethan had the personality type to just mess around, it wouldn’t be as rough on him. But that doesn’t seem to be the case. I was with someone like this once and let me tell ya. It stung.

        • BBCC
          BBCC
          February 18, 2018 at 2:23 am | #

          Well, the point is to turn Danny into a jealous, depressed, snivelling mess, and that would hurt Ethan regardless of whether he wanted to mess around casually.

  29. Archivist
    Archivist
    February 18, 2018 at 1:45 am | #

    GOD, ETHAN, WHY IS EVERY VERSION OF YOU LIKE THIS?

  30. Vee
    Vee
    February 18, 2018 at 2:05 am | #

    Is it bad I kind of want Mike’s ulterior motive to be dating Ethan? (Yes it is and I’ll see myself out.)

  31. Kelli217
    Kelli217
    February 18, 2018 at 2:12 am | #

    I can’t see how this can possibly end well.

    • inspector Whatevsman
      inspector Whatevsman
      February 18, 2018 at 2:29 am | #

      me neither, but i still wanna see how we get to the inevitable disaster

  32. Shadow
    Shadow
    February 18, 2018 at 2:33 am | #

    …Mike’s angry eyebrows are gone. HE’S BEEN DRINKING.

  33. BenRG
    BenRG
    February 18, 2018 at 2:55 am | #

    I’m not sure where this is going. Either Mike is trying to teach Ethan the difference between physical pleasure and actual emotional connection (something that Mike himself seems to find it impossible to connect) or Mike really is falling for Ethan in his strange way.

    • Arianod
      Arianod
      February 18, 2018 at 5:24 am | #

      SP! Mike ended up falling for Amber, so… not impossible?

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      February 18, 2018 at 9:35 am | #

      Or Mike is carrying out his explicitly stated plan of seducing Ethan to mess with Danny (and Ethan).

      • BenRG
        BenRG
        February 18, 2018 at 11:08 am | #

        It would be somewhat uncharacteristic of Mike to fail to notice that Danny has other things on his mind other than Ethan – Specifically Sal and Amber. Danny would be puzzled by a putative Ethan/Mike ship but I don’t think it would particularly ‘mess with him’.

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          February 18, 2018 at 11:31 am | #

          Perhaps. It’s still exactly what he told us he was going to do.

          He hasn’t actually been on panel with Danny since, according to the tags. He may not be aware of whatever else Danny’s got going on.
          Maybe his plan won’t actually work, but there’s little reason to think he’s not still carrying through – especially since he’s doing exactly what he said he would.

      • David DeLaney
        David DeLaney
        February 19, 2018 at 12:43 am | #

        .
        2por que no los tres?

        –Dave, hasta la banana peel-o

  34. StClair
    StClair
    February 18, 2018 at 3:18 am | #

    There’s a scene I rather like, by Frank Miller – yes, Mr. “whoreswhoreswhores” himself – where a character is suddenly offered a literal “temptation of the flesh”, in a situation where he knows it can’t possibly be real. And so, recognizing it as a trick and a deception, he tells himself that he will reject it… in a moment.

    Ethan, on some level, knows this isn’t what he really wants. That it isn’t real. He may even tell himself that next time, he’ll say no. But not right now.
    In a moment.

    • Zaxares
      Zaxares
      February 18, 2018 at 5:24 am | #

      Was that from the Robocop vs Terminator comic, by any chance? And yes, that was an absolutely magnificent scene. 😀

      • StClair
        StClair
        February 18, 2018 at 11:55 am | #

        Got it in one.

  35. Ainara
    Ainara
    February 18, 2018 at 3:20 am | #

    What, like, right there? No!

  36. Yarner
    Yarner
    February 18, 2018 at 3:51 am | #

    Ok, this seems like a good time to ask all you native speakers…
    What does ‘making out’ exactly imply? What extent of contact does the expression allow? Only smooching? Light petting? Heavier petting? More?

    • Some1
      Some1
      February 18, 2018 at 3:55 am | #

      Typically it means passionate kissing. It’s more explicit then smooching, but not explicit enough so that it couldn’t be seen in a children’s movie.

    • Reltzik
      Reltzik
      February 18, 2018 at 6:13 am | #

      Making out is primarily kissing, though some petting or fondling might be involved. It’s an extended activity of at least several minutes — brief kissing encounters don’t count as making out. It’s also implied that the participants are embracing and/or lying down together — if they’re instead just sitting next to each other and kissing, that’s necking, not making out.

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      February 18, 2018 at 8:58 am | #

      Holding hands and reading about dinosaurs.

  37. @zombieundergrnd
    @zombieundergrnd
    February 18, 2018 at 4:28 am | #

    Ethan is a vampire. He has no reflection in the mirror (just casting a shadow) from the light source well back of him).
    Now he is going to turn Mike into one.
    The Walkyverse changes forever.

  38. Emily
    Emily
    February 18, 2018 at 5:22 am | #

    You are a very very stupid man Ethan.

    • Zee
      Zee
      February 18, 2018 at 11:36 am | #

      I usually don’t like your comments. But I’ll agree with you.
      And that stupidity is what’s going to make this storyline​ so fun.

  39. StevenW
    StevenW
    February 18, 2018 at 5:46 am | #

    Mike has genuine expressions!

    Genuine expressions here, kids! Mike’s plea to Ethan could be seen as caring, even as far as emotionally invested.

    I know this is a hopeless pairing – panel 3&5 are just baits to lure us to our doom – yet I cannot stop myself hoping for both of them nonetheless. The tiny wee smiley down the left corner mocks me as I write this. Damn you, Willis!

    • ValdVin
      ValdVin
      February 18, 2018 at 7:18 am | #

      Add panel seven Mike to that, if you would.

      Ethan’s wide eyes in panel eight (not just his answer) suggests Mike’s expressions are working.

    • Liliet
      Liliet
      February 18, 2018 at 3:52 pm | #

      I’m just seeing Loki in early movies here: “I knew you would fall for this, yet somehow I’m still surprised you fell for this”. His expressions there are so great

      (and then Thor gets wise to his shit and we get Dark World and Ragnarok which I just saw today and it was pure bliss)

  40. Vancore
    Vancore
    February 18, 2018 at 6:41 am | #

    This is why it’s called dumbing of age, everything Mike just said literally went through one ear and out the other.

    • Jordan
      Jordan
      February 18, 2018 at 11:28 am | #

      Well, not EVERYTHING. Ethan managed to retain “Do you want to make out?”

  41. Acebender
    Acebender
    February 18, 2018 at 6:41 am | #

    Oh Ethan

  42. Eldritch Gentleman
    Eldritch Gentleman
    February 18, 2018 at 6:43 am | #

    Oh, are we reaching the climax of the Ethan/Amber/Danny triangle?

    • moo
      moo
      February 18, 2018 at 11:29 am | #

      If anyone climaxes here it’s probably going to be Ethan

      • Eldritch Gentleman
        Eldritch Gentleman
        February 18, 2018 at 2:35 pm | #

        Good for him, he really needs that… BUT NOT WITH MIKE!

  43. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    February 18, 2018 at 9:28 am | #

    hmm.

  44. Kater
    Kater
    February 18, 2018 at 10:26 am | #

    Everytime Mike closes his eyes, I am amazed at how thick his lashes are.
    Swooning

    • Eldritch Gentleman
      Eldritch Gentleman
      February 18, 2018 at 10:37 am | #

      No! Stop! Don’t fall for his roguish charms!

      • Unusually Angry Hippie
        Unusually Angry Hippie
        February 18, 2018 at 12:31 pm | #

        Mike really, REALLY does it for me.

  45. Zee
    Zee
    February 18, 2018 at 11:37 am | #

    I swear to god mike is my favourite character

  46. Josh Spicer
    Josh Spicer
    February 18, 2018 at 11:40 am | #

    Oh boy…one of my favorite parts about Mike is that you can never tell his sincerity from falsehood, but when he’s sincere, he’s sincere.

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      February 18, 2018 at 1:21 pm | #

      And when is that?

      • Josh Spicer
        Josh Spicer
        February 18, 2018 at 1:36 pm | #

        Shortpacked as his drunk self tends to be sincere.

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          February 18, 2018 at 4:24 pm | #

          Fair enough. Drunk Mike is almost an entirely different character.

          He had his own tag. 🙂

          • Josh Spicer
            Josh Spicer
            February 18, 2018 at 8:21 pm | #

            Shit. Good point.

          • jothki
            jothki
            February 20, 2018 at 5:18 pm | #

            It’s kind of disappointing that Mike probably isn’t the kind of person to indulge in underage drinking.

  47. Pylgrim
    Pylgrim
    February 18, 2018 at 1:20 pm | #

    Could it be possible that Mike actually likes Ethan even a teensy bit? We also told ourselves that he was only toying with Amber in Shortpacked.

  48. Rose
    Rose
    February 18, 2018 at 2:17 pm | #

    I feel incredibly called out. I’m both of them. This is a callout for both sides of my sad gay ass.

  49. nlips
    nlips
    February 18, 2018 at 2:19 pm | #

    Honest Mike is scary Mike.

  50. Liliet
    Liliet
    February 18, 2018 at 3:14 pm | #

    ok this is kinda cute

  51. Kazumi
    Kazumi
    February 18, 2018 at 5:01 pm | #

    Poor schmuck’s hooked on a drug…

    • David DeLaney
      David DeLaney
      February 19, 2018 at 12:45 am | #

      OOGA CHAKA OOGA CHAKA OOGA CHAKA OOGA CHAKA

      –Dave, where is that Muzak hacking device?

  52. nightsbridge
    nightsbridge
    February 18, 2018 at 6:09 pm | #

    …I still can’t trust Mike, even though I want to.

  53. Grant Gould
    Grant Gould
    February 18, 2018 at 7:57 pm | #

    The RSS feed does not seem to be updating; the last it has was the comic from the 15th.

    • Grant Gould
      Grant Gould
      February 19, 2018 at 5:46 am | #

      … and now it’s fixed; thanks!

  54. Roborat
    Roborat
    February 20, 2018 at 5:57 pm | #

    It almost looks like Ethan is pouting in the third last panel.

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