Which one is the idiot and which one is the savant?
Both and neither.
I believe you’re looking for . One is a genius the others insane.
Ah, so you have Pinky on the brain. (Pun intended)
I nearly spit out my food. that’s so awesome!
Dina you smart girl!
I had a feeling that Dina knew all the long, she just seemed to be the type to notice shit other people fail to pick up on.
All Amber does is wear an eyemask. Still seems like a real obvious secret identity no matter how I look at it.
i’ve mentioned it before, she looks at people’s mouths.
Oh, BRAVO on that callback, sir. I raise my drink to you, and wish I had said it first.
Reminds m of a silver age Batman where Vicki Vale figured out the Batman/Bruce link by noticing his chin.
Hmmm…wonder if VV had Aspergers
It’s the superman identity thing. Not the one that superman doesn’t need a secret identity. The one that even though superman looks physically like Clark Kent, Superman doesn’t slouch, isn’t meek, and just overall acts completely different. Couple that with mankinds tendency to remember events how they thanked they happened rather than exactly how they happened, and no one ever thinks that they’re the same two people. The one small difference of a mask or not makes two different people, because that’s what people believe
Except for in one comic where it was revealed that his SUPER glasses are made from SUPER krypton glass, which magnifies his powers of SUPER hypnotism which lets him unconsciously convince everyone who sees him ask Clark Kent that he’s a meek-looking, balding reporter.
That, right there, is what is known as confirmation bias. Thank you for pointing out human-kinds’ tendency to see what they want to see.
No! She also musses up her hair!
Try going from glasses to no glasses, dressing unusually for you, and a different hair style, people who know you will have a hard time recognizing, add on that she works primarily at night. Trust me on this one. I recently went from long hair my entire life to short hair, and wearing glasses which I haven’t done since high school. I’ve had to deal with a lot of cases of people seeming to not know who the fuck I am until I talk. Now imagine I was disguising my voice as Amazigirl clearly does.
Paul McCartney slicked back his hair, put on a pair of glasses, and a fake mustache and went around Paris completely unnoticed at the height of Beatlemania. He got back to the hotel and George Harrison didn’t even recognize him.
I think it’s the other way around. It’s not that Dina’s seeing more than everyone else; it’s that she’s seeing less. All the little subtle things about Amber’s mannerisms and body language that change when she puts the mask on, all the things that subconsciously communicate to people with fully-functioning social senses, “This awesome ass-kicking superheroine is not that timid reclusive girl who lives on your floor”… Dina can’t see anyway. So to her, Amazi-Girl is just Amber wearing a cape.
Thats a good point 🙂
Yes, and I think Dina doesn’t have those social preconceptions that make other people think that shut-in nerds can’t be superheroes.
I’m pretty sure that Billie’s social preconceptions are that superheroes are shut-in nerds.
I swear Dina must be at least mildly Autistic. Just… So much FITS!
I think she is. Like me 🙂
Yeah I read her that way too, not dxed because she’s canonically not dxed as anything, but Aut. (Girls go undiagnosed until college so often if they’re conventionally smart and can talk it’s not even funny…)
I know some other Autistic people who read her that way too.
I’m reminded of the webcomic Freefall. In that, robots can disguise themselves to other robots by switching transponders with vehicles. “Why is a motorcycle talking to me?” Nonrobots actually look at what’s there and are not fooled.
Of course Dina knew. She was there when Amber put on the costume.
Amber thought she had left but as always she was just standing behind the door again.
I think Dina doesn’t recognize running around in a mask and cape as out of the ordinary or worthy of comment. Her “That’s odd…” sensors are set differently.
I saw what you did there… Well played!
Dina sees much and knows much, but doesn’t necessarily broadcast it. Further proof of the old adage that “still waters run deep”.
Funny thing is I spent a solid ten minutes thinking Amber was talking about Dorothy and wondering why, before remembering Sal.
*no attention span*
I thought she was referring to her own inner demons/alternate personas.
Why would her inner demons be out in the hall?
1) Nice gravatar for this comment.
2) Because superheroes don’t obey the same laws of logic that the rest of us are beholden to.
My interpretation was that Amber thought something might be in the hall that would trigger an unpleasant flashback or Amazi-Girl episode. Given all of the recent drama involving her alternate persona, perhaps she would be hesitant to allow it to emerge again.
I too had forgotten the flashback to the aftermath of the mini-mart robbery when Amber stabbed Sal in the hand — but don’t forget it was Dorothy and Walky that were chasing her in the first place, and Dorothy then got the article published in the IDS. So it could be either of them.
ER, well then. Thanks, I actually was a bit confused too.
I thought she was worried about Blaine being in the hall. Then I remembered the Sal/Amber history… takes a minute or two now that I’m older.
Dina: evil schemer.
What? isn’t it obvious? It’s literally just you in a halloween costume.
And you win with the first “Clever Girl” reference.
Isn’t there already one above? And on several other pages where Dina appears?
That one’s timestamped two minutes later. “Above”ness is less relevant with threaded comments, since you can just tack a comment onto an earlier post [unless that post is the first post of the first thread]. [[see also a comment I made below about “everyone every time Dina says anything”]]
So at least the second part of my comment is still valid. Well, better being half-right then wholly wrong.
Exactly what was in my head, freakishly down to the exact number of HA’s.
now i’m a little weirded out.
Dina: Secret identity breaker
Dina is smart and Sal would make an awesome Joker to Amber’s Batman.
And Dina an excellent Alfred.
I thought Danny was her Alfred.
Nah, Alfred is as badass as batman in the comics. Danny can’t compare in awesomeness to Dina.
I woulda said Catwoman, but I really don’t wanna picture Danny in full body leather.
Danny is Vicky Vale.
I see that; a Lois lane parallel with a bit better luck at actually finding the secret identity
She’s already had to rescue Danny from being captured, even though he’s supposed to help her. I think that makes him Robin.
I have a hard time imagining Dina with a polished British accent.
What about a brittle Polish accent then?
Like Glaswegian for example?
Is that what Glasgow folks sound like? Cor blimey and a squirt full of frosting.
Not sure but I was trying to think of a Brit accent that’s the opposite of “Received Pronunciation” and Glaswegian is one of the roughest I can recall.
Well there’s Scouse (Liverpudlian), Manc (Manchester), Black Country (the Midlands, Birmingham etc, where Alan Moore’s from), West Country (Bristol, Devon etc. think stereotypical pirate voice), Reading (Ricky Gervais), Estuary English (David Tennant’s Doctor accent)…
And that’s only some of ’em. Yeah, the UK might be small but we have a ton of accents. Generally the rule is that as you approach the Scottish border from the South they get a bit harder to understand.
You sure know your British accents ^_^
Really? I always thought she’d talk in a sort of Cambridge-y way, if that’s a thing.
Well, Dina can learn from Jason the same way sal does.
I don’t think so, Dina is not quite ready for that level of human physical interaction.
I was talking about through math.
Not likely. Dina still thinks that “mammals are weird”.
Considering how mammals are named after their genitals, I think it’s more than fair to consider humanity weird, or at least slightly silly.
Mammary glands are not genitals, seriously; mammary glands are actually slightly deviant sweat glands (which is why marginal mammals like the platypus sweat milk that their offspring lap up).
Look, I don’t know what to call an organ that is more or less specific to one gender besides a genital, although I realize that doing so was rather stupid (I blame it on lack of sleep). And the point I wanted to make (humans naming the group they belong to after mammary glands is rather strange) came across.
Boobs are “secondary sexual characteristics,” like beards. If you wanna have something to categorize them as.
No, Dina would be her Tim Drake. He figured out Batman’s identity, too.
You forget that Dina is a ninja. Also where she sleeps.
Yeah… he pretty much blackmailed his way into being Robin.
Or Bane, who figured it out pretty much by just watching Bruce at a party.
Dina seems more the ‘gnash you up with my teeth, rawr’ type than ‘I will break your spine like a twig’ type.
Wouldn’t it be more awesome if she were, say, a Talia al Ghul? >:)
More like Amber could make a good Joker to Sal’s Batman.
Dina as Killer Croc. “I hit him with a rock. It was a big rock.”
Of course Dina would be the only one who picked up on that.
DINA FOR PRESIDENT 2016
She wont be thirty five until, at the rate this comic moves, the 24th century.
…DINA FOR PRESIDENT OF THE FEDERATION 2016
Dina for president, 4024.
DINA SARAZU FOR EMPRESS OF THE FOOD CHAIN 20XX
Her surname is Saruyama now.
“I’m 200 years old, and that’s old enough to rule everything.“
Just as Tim Drake figured out Batman’s identity, so has Dina found out Amber’s.
Well, Tim’s involved witnessing a specific acrobatic feat that only one boy was capable of and then doing extreme research whereas Dina’s involved not being fooled by wrap around her roommates eyes. But, yeah, I’m cool with Dina being a robin.
I mean, in addition to Alfred.
It could also be that as Amber’s roommate, she has seen the cape, jumpsuit, utility belt, and mask and connected the dots.
There’s also the fact they’re roommate’s it stands to reason that Dina may have seen the costume already, even if just a glimpse. Not that many people would own costume like that, or at least one in those colors, which isn’t identifiable with any fictional superheroes (that we know of for this universe, anyway). She probably just opted to not mention it if that’s the case because it didn’t concern her and she doesn’t seem particularly curious on the things people do on their own time… Not when there’s more dinosaur books to read, at least.
Or… she saw the newspaper and was like “Oh hey, it’s Amber”, but given she’s not very sociable, didn’t say it aloud and likely didn’t mention it to anyone else. At most she probably went “huh. So that’s what she does when she’s out at night.”.
Or… she figured it out before and never said anything because Amazigirl helped her out in some way before like she did Danny and keeping quiet was her way of showing appreciation.
Or, it’s just another weird thing a person is doing and could be perfectly natural as far as she knows.
Or, as far as she knows, no one else is mentioning it because not mentioning it is a social norm that she doesn’t want to violate.
Or, it’s not dinosaurs.
Amber’s dad found a friggin grappling hook, I find it completely probable that Dina has seen as much or more.
Dina has certainly seen the grappling hook. She used it to dispose of Faz.
So are you saying Dina is her sidekick now? Because I am 100% ready for this
Curses, I’m not the only one to think of “clever girl”
Only everybody every time Dina says anything.
But seriously. I had to do a double take on that.
Like, “ya Dina. That’s why everyone hasn’t figured out she’s Amazigirl….”
No surprise here. Remember: Grappling hook.
I still want to believe Dina just plain has a grappling hook.
Remember when she accidentally went to the lake with the others and just happened to have a floatation device in her backpack? She’s just THAT prepared.
Dang, another thought yanked directly out of my noggin. Where’s that tin foil hat when I need it.
In Dina’s backpack.
Final panel Dina has dish-pan hands.
haHA! My headcanon is actual canon now!
Amazi-Girl & Clever Girl: DoA’s Finest!
In their greatest battle yet against Drunk Girl and Hockey Girl.
Meanwhile, Fundie Girl tries to set up Cranky Girl with Hunky Guy.
All while Lame Guy tries desperately to keep Amazi-girls secret identity from falling into the hands of the people, especially Blonde Girl and Lazy Guy.
Once again, proof that Dina is the best character.
You needed more?
It’s not that we NEED more they’re just noting that there is more.
And on that note it’s always nice to have more…not that we need it…just very badly want it… -twitchs- I’m not addicted to Dina’s awesome…
No one needs more specifically, but it is always enjoyable to be reminded why Dina is the best.
Oh shiiiiii –
Oh my. And now I’m just imagining Amazi Girl running around with Velociraptor-like arms.
YES. Dina wins all the things!
Amber even more of a shut-in?
I look forward to the adventures of Amazi-Hikikomori. She can wrap the cape around herself like a blanket.
The idea of hikikomori I I have seen on the internets couldn’t possibly exist, Amber is clearlu a zashiki-warashi, a friendly spirit who causes mischief but also good fortune to the household.
Dina just choose the worst times to be observant. You’d think Amber would remember: http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/06-strange-beerfellows/looking/
Dina is an Alfred! Who is also a raptor!
Insightful Broad (never much cared for bandwagons).
Also, sorry Danny. I was rooting for you, but now there is a new Amber related OTP in my head and its awesome.
We all called that Dina would have found it obvious long ago.
Amber, I’ve said this before, I’ll say it again, none of the girls on your floor know who you are or care. Sal is not your nemesis.
I believe that the ‘nemesis’ reference in this strip refers to Dorothy, not Sal.
Pretty sure that’s Sal.
“I couldn’t put the pieces together until just yesterday” doesn’t make much sense for Dorothy. The red panel flashback is where she made a reapprai-Sal.
But Dorothy and Danny were pursuing her with what could only be described as single-mindedness of purpose; they were able to pick up items she had discarded/lost (the shoe, the Transformer, the Amazi-condoms); and then Dorothy got pictures — and wrote an article, the details of which are still unknown — that eventually made the front page of the campus newspaper.
While a couple of other people (Dina and Ethan, for instance) may have some clue as to Amber’s alter ego, Dorothy is the only other person who has come close to figuring it out — and is perfectly willing, in the name of journalism, to blow it sky-high. So I think yesterday’s actions could have also resulted in Dorothy being upgraded from “minor annoyance” to “nemesis” in Amber’s mind.
Dorothy has made her desires clear, she simply wishes an interview. Sal’s the one she had a complete mental breakdown because of (granted, she was already in a weakened state due to other circumstances| but Sal was still the trigger).
If Sal realizes that Amber’s the girl who stabbed her hand, that might change.
She sort of is. Sal is the main villain, she even robbed a convenient convenience store. (And that’s terrible!) It’s part of the origin story of Amazi-Girl.
Who She Is And How She Came To Be
Origin villains are rarely the nemesis. They’re generally minor villains or just one shots.
Batman’s parents are occasionally killed by the Joker but usually by some mugger called Joe Chill.
Of course Dina doesn’t observe the social nicety of pretending not to unravel really poorly concealed secret identities. She doesn’t get the social complexities of something like that.
I dig it.
Who else knows, the frickin’ Dean?!
Probably, I mean, Danny knows, so….
I mean, if DANNY thinks it’s obvious now, then who knows who else has figured it out.
Nice touch with the “suprise” lines in the last panel, David. That’s so George McManus!!! 🙂
Respect the classics.
Needs sound tho.
DINA SARUYAMA – ACE DETECTIVE!!!
And now I desire a picture of Dina dressed as Naoto from Persona 4
Clever girl! I’m going to imagine Dina as a sidekick/ward, just for fun.
Two reasons, actually, alt text. Sal and the suddenly translucent appearance of her secret identity.
Somewhere somebody would figure out that Amber and Amazi-Girl were the same person. Somebody whose mind was not clouded by human perceptions and prejudices would notice without a touch of effort that two women were one. If that someone was also capable of grasping the idea that no one on Earth knew it, that this was a disguise and a very effective one, that someone would probably catch the irony in Amber’s first words today.
oh, well done.
Who the hell is Amber talking about? And Dina I think this proves that she is perfect to be Amazing-girl sidekick
Do you seriously not know, or are you joking? She means Sal.
Ah of course I forgot damn I’m stupid, a four part flashback and I still couldn’t remember
I honestly thought she meant Dorothy since she almost revealed her identity
Sal, who she saw yesterday, which triggered Red Panels.
Alternatively, Dorothy, who is determined to ruin Amber’s li- er, reveal Amazi-Girl’s secret identity.
Or Rose, the palette-shifted Player 2 Amazi-Girl.
If they come into contact, they will mutually annihilate in a massive explosion that will level the entire Bloomington area.
Dina is pretty perceptive. I guess she doesn’t look at the face of things, so she can see underneath.
I’m sure this is a dumb question, but who is Amber referring to? Dorothy?
Or maybe she’s referring to Amazi-Girl on the assumption Dina isn’t more observant than everyone else.
…she’s talking about Sal.
She’s referring to Sal (the whole convenience store flashback).
Amber’s had a few flashback moments regarding a certain person who almost hurt a friend, terrified her into cowering in a corner, and then made her fly into a rage after her father berated her.
And this is it, the pinnacle of David Willis’s career.
Brilliant girl. You go Dina!!
Dina, destined to be Amazi-girls Robin. We will call “DINO GIRL”, the reptile girl wonder
Haha, I totally came here to see if anyone had already said it, and here it is the first comment I read.
E-e-e-e-gggcellent. Thank you. Mr. Willis
Leave it to Dina to notice who Amazi-girl is, her detachment from society in general makes her the perfect person to see through a disguise, for all she knows Amber just liked dressing weird, a costume and a bandana around the eyes isn’t fooling this clever girl
“Dina knew all along! She’s BRILLIANT!”
Or, you know, she lives with the girl.
I have to imagine Amber doesn’t wash the Amazi-Girl uniform as often as she should, and investigating where that smell is coming from is one of the better reasons to look through your roommate’s closet.
I laughed so hard at this strip, Oh Dinah knowing, not surprising once you see it but definitely unexpected until it happened XD XD
YES Dina ha ha ha. I love that she doesn’t even consider the superhero thing worth bring up… unless it happens to be relevant to the current conversation.
So does this mean that the exciting adventures of Amazi-Girl and The Raptor will now indeed be a thing.
Something tells me given how sidekick names usually work and Dina’s personality it would likely not be “The Raptor”, but something along the lines of “Dina-nychus”.
Dina is in her raptor stance here.
I agree, she obviously knew all along, didn’t mention it because it was so obvious to her along but no one spoke f it – so not knowing for sure if socially acceptable to mention it, she didn’t.
Definitely not a raptor stance. Raptor hands don’t pronate that way unless you break the wrist.
Tell that to Jurassic Park. The movie’s the main reason why so many people have so many misconceptions about dinosaurs.
True, but Dina is one of those people who wouldn’t have those misconceptions. Remember the piano scene with Sarah?
Jurassic Park is the reason people have the misconceptions they do. Take it away, though, and there would be so many misconceptions based on the Lost World or Land Before Time or something.
Jurassic park is over a decade old. I’m pretty sure people have misconceptions about dinosaurs is because people often suck at science.
Whoah. The real reveal here isn’t what Dina knows. It’s what Amber DIDN’T know until recently.
So…Danny FINALLY figured it out. Walky/Dorothy/Rest of the cast are still in the dark…but Dina has known from day 1…With this knowledge, she shall demand position as sidekick ‘Raptor Girl’! Because Dinosaurs are Amazing and therefore it fits!
Dina has discovered amazigirl’s secret identity, by super her law she is now her side kick.
Ya know, if Willis was an Arrow fan, we’d be getting a nice “No one can know my secret” neck snap right about now.
GUESS WHO JUST DIED IN BOTH UNIVERSES!
I’m hoping for Blaine.
They hardly ever do that in Arrow, actually. He’s done it once, and he’s been trying to avoid killing people the whole second season. Heck, the count’s already up to at least 8 people who know Oliver Queen=the Arrow.
Am I the only one who sees a Green Hornet and Kato situation in this comic’s future?
I take it back. Dina’s smarter than Dan.
Danny makes Dina look smarter than Batman!
Dina is Awesome !
I know this was never in dispute but I just had to reiterate it right now.
..but why is Dina making raptor arms in the last panel?
Why would she not?
Carol Ferris: Hal? HAL?
Hal Jordan: How’d you know it was me?
Carol Ferris: I’ve known you my whole life! I’ve seen you naked! You think I wouldn’t recognize you because I can’t see your cheekbones?!?
It would be impossible to underrate that movie.
She knows too much!
Have you all forgotten this:
Dina is not the only one… maybe Ethan can be Robin instead
True, but it’s very subtle. Besides, Ethan’s instigated at least two flashbacks now, it would be to hard hard for him to be the Robin.
the fact the person who lives in the same room and shares the closet knows about your cape amber… how does this surprise you?
still, now amazagirl can get a sidekick XD
Okay, dumb question: is it Dee-na or D-eye-na?
It’s in the subtitle to Willis’ Tumblr.
Not really too surprised that Dina figured it out. Anyone else, though, and it would be a bit more shocking.
She must be silenced, Amber. No one can know.
Welp, time to make Dina your sidekick Amber.
I’m so nervous at the idea of Amber considering Sal her nemesis. I feel like that’s going down a very unhealthy road for Amber. Only bad things can come of this!
And so her sidekick Dinosaur Lass was born!
Once again proving that Dina is the best character.
I had always figued Dina knew but just assumed it was something that people don’t talk about. Head cannon confirmed!
Another reference to Major Artillery of the Superhomeys!
Wait…at first I thought she was talking about Sal.
Rereading it I think she’s talking about Dina and we’re about to get a lesbian love scene.
Looks like I was wrong before. Dina was the first person to notice rofl.
OK. I finally like Dina. It happened.
Took ya long enough.
THIS MAKES ME SO FREAKING HAPPY!
Oh! You must mean the Faunus girl!
Please say this leads to Dina being Amazi-Girl’s Sidekick
Intelligent young woman…
Willis, now you’re TRYING to get us to make Jurassic Park references.
I refuse to be a part of this nonsense!
Why is everyone ignoring the really important issue?
WHEN WILL THE STORE BEGIN TO STOCK “RARR!” T-SHIRTS?
this is exactly why Dana is my favorite
Perhaps Dina is becoming “RAWRbin”
no san diego comic-con, the sorries
Who should get doodled inside Dumbing of Age Book 5?
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