Marcie was a cricket in a top hat and suit in another life.
Some people might not be old enough to get that.
Why? Are they…babies? That movie came out half a century before a lot of us were born.
Oh come on, I’m only 30. Plenty of people will get that.
ONLY TRUE 40s KIDS WILL GET THIS
I just watched that movie a week ago.
It was never one of my favorites, but I do like it.
I just checked Amazon, you can get the DVD for 9 bucks right now. Alternately, the VCR tape is for sale for nearly $500. I think I need to go raid my parents’ basement…
Wait, hang on. (Some) VHS tapes are worth more than the value of the scrap plastic? I’ve got a whole bunch I’ve been resigned to just throwing out for a while.
LOL no. That’s just some indie seller hoping to snare someone desperate/nostalgic enough. Look elsewhere or wait and you’ll see it for far more sane prices.
Nono, we don’t want to buy it for $500, we want to sell our old copies for that much
I know, but new, factory-sealed VHS are selling for about $5 on eBay.
Those sellers are trolling the marketplace for unwary buyers. They can put any price on anything, and if it’s the only one listed, someone might actually think it’s worth that amount.
Good lord! There’s no less than 15 copies being sold at the thrift store down the road for $.50! Maybe I should snap ’em up and hope for desperation to set in?
Shout out to the octogenarian viewership!
…Really? Who do you think reads this comic, ten-year-olds?
This comic would be great education for 10 year olds.
It’s a reference to Archie Hopper from Once Upon A Time, right?
but… Pinocchio has been rereleased several times… I’m 15, and I’ve seen it.
I played Kingdom Hearts, I know what’s what.
You, sir, have been approved.
When you wish upon a star …
It’s probably already collapsed on itself and the light of it’s dying hasn’t reached us yet…
You know, in the book, Pinocchio killed the cricket (it didn’t have a name IIRC) before the end of the 2rd chapter. He’s an even more thoroughly unlikable brat in it. I was rather surprised when I read it. Probably the only case where disneyfying made sense.
Hell no, imagine if Disney hadn’t altered Sleeping Beauty at all? Have you seen the actual story?
In the original, when the prince goes to find the princess, he doesn’t just kiss her, he rapes her. She doesn’t wake up after this though, so he decides to just leave her there. A while later, she gives birth (twins, I believe), and one of them starts sucking on her finger, the one she pricked, and the splinter comes out, waking her.
I’m really glad Disney decided to completely reinterpret it.
oh whoops, did I use the wrong email?
guess I’m sarah for now
The little Mermaid originally doesn’t get the prince and ends up dissolving into sea foam.
The Hound kills the Fox, and because of the potential for rabies the hunter shoots the Hound.
And the Hunchback of Notre Dame is too graphic for me to comfortably mention so just look it up.
Lion King, being based on Hamlet, ends in absolutely everyone dead in a bloodbath on the floor.
in the german version of cinderella, the ugly stepsisters cut off their toes to make the glass slipper fit, then cinderella’s birds peck out their eyeballs.
In Hugo’s Hunchback of Notre Dame, everybody dies. Except for the character that wasn’t in the movie.
The Hunchback of Notre Dame spends the first 250 pages of a 500 page book describing Paris, the architecture, the people, the politics, during that time period, and then starts the story. That’s the worst part of it.
Snow White has Maleficent dancing herself to death in red hot iron shoes.
And Snow doesn’t wake up from a kiss, she wakes up because the prince just threw her body onto the back of his horse and rode off. The jostling of the horse in full gallop woke her up.
Hmm. Medically challenged lady giving birth to twins. Seems familiar.
Like it might be some kind of imitated theme. Can’t seem to place it though.
There were at least a couple of episodes in the “Law & Order” franchise about that…
I’m pretty sure that change to Sleeping Beauty was Perrault, not Disney.
Carlo Collodi, author oh “Pinocchio”, makes Roald Dahl look like a friend to all children.
I’m twenty-one and still got that.
I’m not sure I get the reference. Probably because I haven’t seen that movie in a while.
Jiminy Cricket wears a tophat and suit, and he’s Pinocchio’s conscious. Marcie is Sal’s conscious.
Oh, okay. I thought the reference was in the strip itself. Thank you.
How can Marcie understand her if she has a helmet on? I thought she was deaf rather than just being mute.
it is possible you were wrong
I think you found the new ‘How is Dina pronounced?’
“How would Marcie pronounce Dina’s name if she weren’t mute?”
I just remember it as rhyming with Lina.
You mean Lie-na?
Oh hell no…
power beyond the twilight…
DARKNESS beyond twilight,
Crimson beyond the blood that flows,
In thy great name, I pledge myself to darkness! Those who oppose us shall be destroyed by the power you and I possess!
Oh so Rina then.
My mother’s name is ‘Nina’, so I understand the debate. People never pronounce it right, the first time.
And yes, it is pronounced ‘N-aye-na’
I wonder where the ‘Marcie is deaf’ misconception started? Sal always talks to her outloud, even when she couldn’t possibly see her lips.
She doesn’t talk. Def Deaf.
because “only deaf people use sign language”
you know, because people who are just mute can clearly speak or something
I’m no expert on muteness, but doesn’t most non-selective muteness stem from deafness?
I don’t know what causes Marcie’s muteness but considering she uses sign language it seems less likely to be selective rather than physical. So I can see why people might think deaf-mute.
If someone’s vocal cords don’t work then they can’t speak coherently at all. Not enough sounds can be created by just the tongue and mouth to talk in any complicated capacity.
What’s more, it’s not actually possible to read someone’s lips and understand them completely because so many sounds are caused by things that cannot be clearly seen.
There’s a lot of truth there. Most people that can lip read exceptionally well have some degree of redisual hearing (well, most Deaf people in General have some degree of redisual hearing) and use it in combination with lip reading.
Although, I will say that most words can be figured out simply through context clues.
You are right. Most people who do not speak prefer such because they don’t speak well, itself because they are deaf to some degree. Sure, there are people who can hear but do not speak because they have a mechanical issues with their vocal cords or the part of the brain that controls speech. But they are numerically in the minority.
What does Dina’s name sound like in Marcie’s head? Y’know, since she’s deaf. She’s never heard it spoken. ‘Cause she’s deaf.
Like the bone-rattling screech of a Spinosaurus aegyptiacus running down its prey.
Same as everyone pronounces it, really.
Well, that makes sense. Being unable to hear is a lot easier for us to “fix” than being unable to speak.
Andy, shes MUTE not DEAF.
Plasma, you change avatars every other day. Where are you getting them?
I find pictures and edit them, occassionly I made a few from scratch but that was back when I still had Photoshop instead of Corel Photo.
This has nothing to do with what you were saying, but I love your new avatar.
It’s an old one I haven’t used in ages but THANK! ^_^
Very similar to “I thought what I’d do is pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes”
Note to self: Look up a Laughing Man Avatar.
I have one from the Nightstar and Keenspot forums days, but it would be too small for a gravatar.
HAHAHAHAAA THE LAUGHING MAN WILL EAT YOUR SOULS!!!
It’s beautifully terrifying. D: 😀
awesomeface joyce is best joyce.
Nope, she’s only mute.
Also, she seems to be really good at predicting Sal’s behavior.
It’s pretty clear that Marcie and Sal know each other well, probably from Sal’s delinquent days. They clearly have a bond, which, WHILE NOT SEXUAL (damn shippers), is nonetheless quite intimate.
She’s deaf, mute, and blind. But she’s also psychic.
Which explains why she plays a mean pinball.
+1 internets to you
(Half-Life 3 confirmed)
That gravatar is quite fitting for what you just did there…
Finally, the truth comes out!
this isn’t the first time sal’s talked to marcie with her helmet on.
It was the first time I noticed it, though. I got a lot of good replies to that was helpful. I’m wondering how Dina’s name is pronounced, though.
Like “See? Naah.”
That’s what I initially thought but now I think it sounds more like the sound of one hand clapping.
Maybe she’s just taken a vow of silence.
Uh oh. Time to deal with your own problems without beating people up, Amazo.
It’s time for Amazo to have that chat with Lex Luthor!
No one else is more qualified to help with defeating physically superior threats to humanity and the planet as a whole.
Time to deal with your problems by absorbing other people’s powers, Amazo.
Incurable Cough of Death?
Possibly a cracked rib from Malaya’s leg kick and/or the exertion of throwing Malaya herself.
She took a knee in the midsection, cracked ribs come from getting hit in the side of the body. Also, leg kicks refer to actually getting kicked in the leg (they can be painful if the person kicking is big enough or has kicked someone in the same spot enough times).
Marcie is my favorite character.
Marcie is definitely in the top 3 for me. Malaya is now in fourth place.
And I guess Sierra’s your #1 then who’s #2
He’s the guy Walky put on his wall!
You are Number 6.
I am not a number, I am a free man!
Mocking laughter is the only reply to Maveric1984’s outrage.
[The original Prisoner is very cool, but I swear there was a conspiracy regarding what episodes I could see when it was still being shown at 2:10 AM Thursday morning on the local CBS affiliate. Kept seeing the exact same six episodes. Will have to rent it, but I’ll bet the only ones in stock will be the exact same six episodes.]
[Be sure you watch them in the correct order.]
Oh, you are evil…
G.I. Joe was like that for me. Watched it every Saturday morning for years; only ever saw the same six-parter over and over.
–You know what’s sad? While my kids have the joy of watching any cartoon they like whenever they want (yay Internets!) they will never know the joys of Saturday morning cartoons…
I’ve actually never seen The Prisoner, I only know that line from this
(This is based mostly on appearances. That’s right. I’m shallow. So sue me.)
Have you checked out today’s SP! Yotomoe? 😀
Whoa, for a moment I thought PM was encouraging people to check out Yotomoe!
Well, if Yotomoe gets a lot of stalkers in the next few days, we’ll know the reason why! 😛
I would not mind if people were stalking my tumblr though.
Could you sue someone for being shallow? Maybe as a form of emotional damage?
That’s OK Im shallow as hell too.
Malaya is Number 4.
Who – does – Number Two – work for?!
That would be telling.
It’s the wrong color…
I know, I did that for myself. I also have the original logo in case I change my mind.
Marcie is definitely growing on me. I think she would have deserved a spot on the revamped cast page; I mean, Carla’s on it, even though she’s had fewers appearances. (Although, in all fairness, Carla DID have more lines than Marcie.)
I wonder, is Marcie an IU student or does she just hang out with Sal?
I’d like to know her backstory too. She’s a hearing mute, but the latter doesn’t seem to be associated with language deficit. She comprehends and “speaks” fine. What’s the source of her mutism? How did she connect with Sal? An even more interesting question because Sal just moved to campus. Where were the two of them before that? Did they live in town? If they lived elsewhere, how are they both here now? It’s very interesting.
“If they lived elsewhere, how are they both here now?” – the obvious answer would be they both enrolled at the same university.
Carla’s on the new cast page because she’s going to be appearing a lot more in the upcoming months.
And just what do you mean by “There won’t be another time to get this right”, Amber?
Because if she does it as Amber, it won’t be PERFECT
[also she doesn’t know Dorothy isn’t likely to spill the beans]
I think she is worried that she is going to get arrested for her amazi-antics when the paper comes out tomorrow
Then THAT would be “at all” vs. “right”
My working theory’s been that Amazi-Girl’s trying to prove that she’s now strong enough – mentally more than physically – brave enough, controlled enough to face the terror that created her with an appropriate and measured response rather than hiding or flipping her shit and stabbing everything. But Sal hasn’t been cooperating by refusing to give her anything to face.
But she has to do it as Amazi-Girl because she doesn’t think Amber can do it.Because Amber and Amazi-Girl aren’t the same person. And Amazi-Girl, she believes, is going to go away when today’s paper comes out, leaving her with just Amber, who is still the terrified little girl she was five years ago.
Because this is the last time she can be Amazi-Girl from her knowledge because she thinks Dorothy will out her.
Yeah? Who is this “Amber” chick she’s talking about? Does amazi-girl have an imaginary friend? That’s Sad!
I hope Carla is giving AG the finger. Also, I hope Dorothy talks to Amber before she does anything even more crazy.
I dunno, Carla seemed to be against the whole violence for violence’s sake thing. She has been really uncomfortable for the last few strips. She didn’t want to attack when Malaya charged in and got clotheslined, she didn’t want to do anything when Sal told them to “Get her,” and now she’s worried about Malaya’s injuries. I think she’s just relieved to get out of that situation, and isn’t really being her usually aggressive self. She may even feel sorry for AG.
I REALLY doubt that she gives 2 fucks about AG. Also I think she isn’t TOO conscerned about Malaya. And finally All that aside, AG deserves the finger.
Very true. She did also express sympathy for AG in yesterday’s strip, so she probably is just waving… And it’s also a pretty bad idea to antagonize someone dressed as a superhero who just tried to jump you in a parking lot.
Sure Carla was against the violence for violence’s sake thing, which is plenty of reason to give the finger to the one who was really really for it. That would be Amazi-Girl, who interrupted Carla enjoying a beer with the others and tried very hard to start a fight. Like Yotomoe said, she deserves that finger.
I hope she skates around Amber in circles flipping her off. Maybe spontaneous produce a third hand just to flip her off triple.
I think Dorothy would talk to Danny first then he would try to talk her out of it.
I think Dorothy also sensed AG/Amber is a dangerous quantity.
“Wait! Come back! I can’t prove that I’m a real grown-up unless I actually kill you this time!”
I don’t wanna be PG-13 anymore! I wanna be TV-MA!
I want to be in a Frank Miller comic, not a Bruce Timm one dammit! Or at least Alan Moore!
Bruce Timm can be pretty damned dark. Look up Red Romance if you’ve got a strong stomach.
Amazo? Did she absorb the powers of Malaya!?!?!
Well, we’ll know if she ever develops anger management issues. OHSHIT!
Amazo doesn’t absorb powers. He just copies them. Parasite is the absorbing one
Amber needs to take up BJJ.
that’d better mean Brazilian jiujutsu. My mind went to a different place at first.
A blowjob job? A job where blowing is the job. Blowin’s the name, Jobbin’s the game. The place where blowing at your job is a good thing. No Job is Blow (below) it.
I had originally filled in “blow-job jockeying”
Black Jack Justice?
Damn it Willis, this better not be all!
Hurry up, I want tomorrow to get here!
With enough alcohol you can time-travel to the future in increments of several hours, and you’ll be seeing tomorrow’s comic in no time!
While on the subject of alcohol, looks like it’s back to splitting a six pack among four people.
Wait, isn’t Marcie blind?
No, she’s just mute.
I’m pretty sure she’s paraplegic.
I always thought she was a robot sent from the future to kill pat lee.
She’s all of the above and then some.
And an amputee of everything below the waist.
So is misunderstanding Marcie’s condition the new misnaming Ken from SP!?
No. It’s the new “Amber isn’t Amazi-girl”.
I feel like that would get real offensive real fast…
Is she the one with the stutter or the psychosomatic asthma? or is she the annoying one who does all the voices?
I believe she is just mute. The glasses are for coolness.
Amber: “how do I know she is evil? She left me alive so we could fight another!”
Carla, you are off to an awesome start!
She’s certainly less ornery than UC and if so, then only with Malaya.
YESSSS, finally. Marcie on her skateboard.
Yeah, but the overhead shot is so tiny
And so the Amazi-Girl vs. Sal feud ends, with a (literal) whimper, not a bang. And that’s a bang as in something blowing up. Not whatever you fleshlings do for kicks. Seriously!
Amber has serious issues. She needs major therapy, and she’s going to be lucky to avoid jail time. I guess that if Blaine doesn’t press charges, and Sal forgets about this in a few hours, Amber might manage to avoid being charged with a felony.
As for Sal, I want to congratulate her. Not many people can control their anger when someone is pushing for a fight. And I’m not talking about not-jobs like Whirl; I’m talking about Rodimus, Drift, Ironhide or Grimlock. Otherwise upstanding ‘Bots who have a hair-trigger temper. In this case, Sal decided not to do what she wanted to, and did what was right. Even if she needed Marcie to remind her what was the right thing. Amber can keep her delusions of being a vigilante crime fighter; Sal is a real hero.
…But Sal doesn’t know that Amazi-Girl is actually Amber; she doesn’t even know about AG, full stop. From her perspective, some wackjob in a superhero suit calling herself Amazi-something attacked her out of the blue.
That is, unless Dorothy decides to publicise Amber’s real identity in the paper.
It doesn’t really matter that Sal has no idea who the nutjob in the jumpsuit and cape is, she was angry enough to fight back, until Marcie urged her not to. And Sal listened to Marcie, and walked away. That’s real heroism.
Well said, my small friend.
No, but I mean, assuming Dorothy doesn’t publish AG’s real identity, how is Sal going to put two and two together and figure out that Amber is AG?
How would Sal figure it out if Dorothy does publish? It’s been established that she doesn’t read the newspaper.
Though Amazi-Girl was obviously outmuscled when the three girls dogpiled her, I’m a little surprised Malaya’s done this well against her in general. She didn’t win, sure, and everything she did was stupid meanness, but she didn’t do too badly. I’m gonna chalk that up to psychological factors. On the one hand, Amazi-Girl wants her vindication against Sal, to “get it right,” to prove that she’s now the kind of person who can defeat the demons of her youth. Yet being this close to Sal is definitely messing with her confidence. It’s weakening her Amazi, at least some of the time. Her power levels are fluctuating.
In a way Malaya and Amazi-Girl are similar, the more you hurt them the more stubborn they get. Malaya’s game is sloppy but Amber’s off her game as well right now.
Amazi-girl’s either still recovering from having the wind knocked out of her or (far more likely in my mind) she has a broken rib or two…
Definitely a broken rib or two. Maybe a punctured lung as well.
How is that more likely? She was kneed once by Malaya, who’s like half her size.
Malaya is a few inches taller than Amazi-Girl and she’s got some meat on her. She’s not half her size.
And she’s been Roller blading and building up her Kicking legs.
Okay, but surely she’s not rib-breaking tough?
This is Malaya. She probably breaks peope’s ribs as a hobby.
Especially small children. Orphans. Their tears fuel her rage.
I’m sorry, I’m not that fluent in Hyperbole. I’ve been meaning to read up before my trip to Hyperbolistan.
She beats up people on roller skates for sport, so she hopefully is that tough.
But roller derbies aren’t supposed to involve broken ribs.
Riiight. And fighting is against the rules of hockey.
It actually isn’t!
(Your point holds, I’m just being a pedant.)
Wait. Is she on roller blades, or are the people she’s beating up on roller blades?
In this instance the former, but I see no reason to believe she’d be picky.
If she’s in Roller Derby then, Both.
Actually, they usually wear side-by-sides.
Don’t forget the exertion of throwing Malaya herself. She could have done that with a cracked/broken rib (and aggravated the injury), and now that the adrenaline is wearing off she is in some severe pain.
Getting nailed in the solar plexus like A-G did yesterday can cause the diaphragm to spasm and make it difficult to breathe.
And I’m kind of impressed that she can maintain the voice after that.
That’s basically what I thought.
I’m guessing a separated shoulder for Malaya
I’m now picturing Sal literally painting the parking lot.
“There. That looks nice. A pretty little centipede ridin’ a Harley. Ah’m proud of myself.”
Hey, Willis! I found your next storyline!
Great, I’m picturing a HUMAN centipede riding a Harley.
Stop it. Stop it at once.
You silly kids and your human centipedes! Asphyxia from Silent Hill: Homecoming is where it’s at! http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140110110356/silent/images/4/41/AlexAsphyxia.jpg
Wait… isn’t Marcie paraplegic?
…no? Not in any sense of the word.
So she’s quadraplegic?
Why are people making up extra disabilities for Marcie today?
If you are joking: Yup, she is the most obvious quadraplegic ever.
If you are not joking: No. Not in the slightest. Look up what it means on google.
Fight your Riva-wait what? Son of a bongo forget it….and how are they supposed to keep up with Sal on skateboards and rollerblades she has fucking motorcycle.
Sal could always drive slowly. I could probably do that to; I’d get in to fewer accidents in vehicle mode. (It would also help if I didn’t send texts or make phone calls in vehicle mode. 😉 )
Malaya looks like she’s holding onto the back of the bike. They’re probably not going far so no need to go all that fast.
Interesting that Malaya seems to be the first person Carla’s shown any concern over. I suppose it could just be that Malaya’s the only one hurt (who didn’t attack them)…
… Again I state, Amber: SEEK HELP, NOW.
And Sal, seriously, smart life choices there. She is going to not engage this creep and in doing so, stay out of trouble.
Sal’s already had experiences that made her re-examine her life choices. Robbing a convenience store, getting arrested, getting stabbed in the hand, and being sent to Catholic School; after going through all that, Sal is mature enough to say “Slag it, this Amazo-Woman is not worth it!”, and walk away.
No, help’s boring. If superheroes and supervillains went to get help for their psychosis, instead of channelling their insanity into crime and violence, there wouldn’t be any stories.
Clearly, this shows that Amazi-Girl needs to further detach herself from reality and let her obsession with vengeance deepen. I’s the only (in)sane option.
I am just so very in disagreement with the notion that a mentally and emotionally healthy individual couldn’t care about crime-fighting.
On the one hand, yes, I agree in some sense. (This is a big reason why, say, the Flash’s current origin bugs me – by letting the death of Barry’s mother stand, they’re effectively endorsing Zoom’s position that one can’t be a hero without tragedy in your past, and that no one would take up the mask just because it’s the right and moral thing to do.)
On the other hand, there are other ways – arguably more effective ones, too – to fight crime than putting on a cape and going out into the night to personally beat the hell out of offenders one at a time. Assuming that “fighting crime” is your real goal, and not taking out your anger etc on those who “deserve” it…
Yeah, sure, but that’s a whole other can of worms.
Like using your Barry Allen example, the guy was in the police force long before he ever got any superpowers. But the conventions of the genre dictate that he sets himself apart from the police to become a “superhero”, even though he clearly believes in that institution and could totally be doing his superhero thang alongside the police and occasionally firefighters.
That doesn’t seem to be tied to his tragic backstory in any way. It just happens because that’s how it goes. If anything even with the tragedy in his life I don’t think I’ve ever seen a rendition of Barry Allen who was notably unstable. Just a guy with a sad story or two to his name like anybody else. I wouldn’t call myself the expert on Barry Allen but it doesn’t seem to be the norm for him to have Batman’s difficulty forming meaningful human relationships for example. He’s generally a pretty happy guy and not in a “I smile to hide my pain” kind of way. He’s got a pretty civil situation worked out with his rogues and doesn’t seem to devote an excessive amount of time towards quelling his murderous compulsions every time he lays his hand one them. I’m sure he’s got his issues, I’d be surprised if he had more than any random civilian you’d pull off the street.
I’d point to him as a fine example of a mentally and emotionally healthy individual who still took up the fight against crime.
It can be informed by your experiences. There’s no reason for example that just because Amber learned to be functional the subjects of abuse, bullying, and violence would suddenly be insignificant to her. It’s not outlandish to fight against something after you’ve personally experienced it. That doesn’t make you insane.
OK back when I was reading comics as a kid, Barry Allen was this guy working in a lab that got splashed by a random mix of exotic chemicals just as he was struck by lightning giving him super speed, which kinda forced him into the superhero business. Also he had to figure out work that he could get paid for by piecework so that he could get a day’s pay in a few minutes by working at super speed, then run off to do superhero “stuff” then be back at work in time to turn in his work and get paid (or at least counted for the day so that he would eventually get paid on payday). That part was almost never brought up in the comics… in fact I only recall seeing Barry at “work” once in the about 5 years I read the comic.
Also I was hit with a truck so I could have a few files that got corrupted and overwritten on the old meatdrive (brain).
Amazi-Girl is the opposite of Mordin Solus.
Now let’s see if I have to explain that.
“Anyone one else would have gotten it wrong.”
The Salarian? I don’t get it. I mean, I get that he’s pretty jolly and forthcoming while Amazi-Girl is pretty taciturn and angry, but aside from that…
Keep in mind I haven’t yet finished the game due to exam season, so I may be missing something…
Yeah, I have waster almost five hundred hours between ME2 and ME3, and I can’t see it either.
It is because Mordin is awesome and AG is being pretty lame?
*wasted. I hate typing in my tablet.
Mordin: Had to be me, someone else would have gotten it wrong
Amazi-Girl: Should have sent someone else, ’cause she fucked it up
Who the hell is Mordin Solus?
Um, yeah, seconded. C’mon, don’t keep old Swerve in suspense! Who is this individual I’ve never heard of? And why does that seem ironic to me?
He’s… okay, so he’s a space alien from the Mass Effect series, kind of like one of the grey aliens if they were amphibians who sustained themselves entirely on adderol. He’s sort of a mad scientist by way of Clint Eastwood.
Type it into a youtube search, enjoy the results.
I cant tell which is funnier:
1-A motorcyclist with a passenger pulling a chick on a skateboard who is being hugged by a girl on rollerskates. They form a strange chain that is only broken when the motorcyclist makes a turn and slingshots 3 girls into Danny. He awkwardly admits to making out with his pet dog and then quietly friendzones himself out of the state.
2-A motorcyclist arriving at a destination. 15 minutes later the roller-skate girl appears. 5 minute after that the skateboarder appears. 25 minutes after that the girl who had to walk finally crawls into the parking lot.
Who would be passenger/walking? Carla and Malaya are both on skates, Marcie’s on the skateboard and Sal has her bike.
In the last panel, Malaya is holding onto Sal’s bike with one hand, while clutching her side with the other arm. Marcie and Carla are not holding onto Sal’s bike. The impression I’m getting is that Malaya’s only doing this because she’s in pain.
Haha or 3.
A motercycle going at 10 miles per hour or less in heavy traffic just so her and her enterage can arrive at the same time.
Imagining Danny being crushed under a mountain of women and him saying with is last breath,” I’ve fantasized about this for years, now I can die happy.”
Um. Danny. He’d be all, “I can’t do this, I have a girlfriend…” as he died.
Why would they be bringing Amber (the only one of this lot not on wheels)?
She really should have invested in that Amazi-cycle.
Maybe she did. Who says she got there on foot?
She arrived on top of a truck.
I like the implication that Marcie is Sal’s conscience. Why isn’t she a major character?
Because SAL isn’t a major character?
Sal’s one of this comic’s protagonists. She’s not the primary protagonist, but she’s just as central to the main plot as Danny, Joe, Sarah, Ruth or Ethan. She may not have received the attention that Joyce, Dorothy, Walky, Amber or Billie have received, but Sal has a story arc. Compare Sal with Mike, Dina or Sierra; they are supporting characters, and that’s Marcie’s role in the story.
I don’t see sierra on the same level as those three, No offence Yotomoe.
Sal is secondary at best, she intersects with pretty much all of DoA’s various groupings but she’s not one of the A-listers. Think about it, pretty much any story involving Sal focusses on someone else primarily, the only real plot she has of her own is her fucking Jason which is played largely for laughs.
If she’s secondary, she’s a prominent secondary.
Rule One: It’s always more complex than you think at first.
Sal, Mike and Dina all get way more attention than Marcie, who just shows up in some of Sal’s scenes.
You take that back.
I have a theory that perhaps Sal and Marcie met each other at boarding school, and they promised each other to keep the other honest so they don’t end up going to jail.
Probably a combination of a) being Sal’s conscience is pretty solidly a ‘support’ role and b) Marcie can’t get her own dialogue in the traditional sense.
So they did the smart thing and ditched her. I almost feel bad for Amber, she was being a little crazy but it’s still sad to see her fail.
Sad to some, satisfying to others. Amazi-Girl needed to fail. If Amazi-Girl can’t get the job done then Amber will have to stop relying on her.
She’s the hero this comic wants, but not the one this comic needs.
She’s the crazy chick people wanted to be a hero, but she’s the crazy chick that just commits violence for psychological release.
But she looks cool when she’s doing it, so she has to be in the right!
Blowing up Alderan looked pretty cool.
You know who else is looking cool, the shortpacks version of Malaya You should checkout the new page.
That attitude has gotten Rodimus into 99% of the trouble he’s gotten himself (and until recently the crew of the Lost Light) into.
Moral Relativism: The moral wrongness of a crime is inversely proportional to how awesome it is.
Come on, who actually cares about Alderan?
(Don’t worry, I only apply this to fiction)
This is also a problem for many mil-fans of the last century:
Yes, the Nazis were pure evil, but damn if they didn’t have the coolest uniforms, planes, tanks, etc etc etc.
This comic reminds me how unhealthy it is for Amber to exist. Amazi-Girl needs to remember Amber is just a mask she puts on. The weak girl who is dominated by her friends.
No, you’re not, you’re a badass vigilante who represents all which is GOOD in the world–after all, you hit Malaya.
But everyone supported that!
Right; Amazi-girl failed at subduing and bringing a violent Sal to justice (due in large part to not finding a violent Sal) so Amber should ditch her and go back to being just Amber: the one who would go into a frothing rage and stab Sal to death in her sleep.
Well, that de-escalated quickly.
What you didn’t see was Marcie signing the lyrics to “When You Wish Upon A Star”
Man, suddenly I really want to see how Sal and Marcie got to know each other! Sal and Marcie perform a friendship.
Me too, honestly!
Also, I just clicked the Marcie tag and she’s only appeared fifteen times, so I’d really like to see more of her in general.
She’s one of the best characters. She kickflipped her way into my heart.
+1 to that, damnit we need some backstory here.
She’s not related to Joe but how about DoA Rachel? Maybe Carla is her sister.
Sadly, she’s not violent. I was hoping Ultracar’s general misandry would translate to a desire to destroy all humans everywhere.
Hate to be That Guy, but I believe you mean “misanthropy”, not “misandry”.
You hate to be that guy? MISANDRY!
Too lazy to Google the difference so I’ll take your word for it.
Misanthropy means a general disdain for humans. Misandry means hatred/oppression directed at men. Only one exists (spoilers: it’s the first one).
I hate it when people say “It doesn’t exist”. But I will accept that it’s not prevelant enough to be relevent 99% of the time it’s brought up.
The “misandry doesn’t exist” arguments seem to to arise from examining misandry as a structural issue in society. As in “we’re not in the habit of making social institutions that enact misandrist agendas on a national scale”.
But I’m not sure that misanthropy really exists as a structural issue in society either. I mean, even the institutions that harm most (all?) humans were designed by people who had some sense of what they wanted to gain from it, serving some small group of people at the expense of everybody, possibly themselves included.
I’m not prepared to say misanthropy doesn’t exist as an structural issue in society, but I’d be really interested in hearing the argument.
Misanthropy is never used in the same context as misandry, which is likened to misogyny and is often seen as equivalent to, and consequently, just as bad as misogyny.
Saying misandry doesn’t exist is like saying reverse racism doesn’t exist – even if there are rare, isolated cases of discrimination/prejudice against white people/men, they have no power behind them, and are not upheld by society.
begbert2’s comment below is completely disingenuous, because he is comparing insubstantial anomalies to an oppressed group of people, and it reeks of dismissing important issues unless due attention is given to men’s feelings.
But I guess it doesn’t matter, because no one will see this. Oh well.
Of course misandry exists. It may not be a dominant force in shaping society, but then neither are transsexuals, and good luck saying *they* don’t exist.
Misandry = man hater
Misanthropy = human hater
Misogyny – woman hating
Mistake- Correctness hating.
Misgender – gender… hating? I don’t think that works.
Mississippi – Progressiveness-hating
The word most frequently used is transphobia.
(The “-phobia” suffix roughly means “intense aversion”. This was a good fit for intense, irrational fears (“phobias”), but now most people think it JUST means “fear of”.)
P.S. Misopedia – children hating. Misocyny – dog hating. (Apparently there is no word for hatred of cats.)
Mississippi- Mr. Sippi’s wife.
Improper word use! OH MY GOD! *weeps*
I adore Sal but I wonder if she could really take on Amber ALONE? In the past Amber stabbed her in the hand in a terrified rage. She didn’t know what the hell was going on all she knew was that Ethan was in danger and something snapped and everything turned red. Now in the present (though still mentally unstable) she is very much aware of what’s happening around her and what she will do to anyone she thinks deserves it. I was actually pretty worried about how all this was going to go down. Not saying Sal can’t take her down. Sal was badass (and crazy) enough to knock over 2 convenience stores and was brave enough to stand up to Ruthless. So I’m sure she’s given out her fair share of beatings too. I wonder who’s the lucky one to come out of this?…Probably Malaya..
I think it is a good thing that the broken bird and the combat pragmatist don’t square off. Both parties would be worse off.
I personally am looking forward to it.
Sal had quite a storyline in the other universe that shall not be named. Here in DoA, not so as much. But, I disagree she has none at all.
She rebelled against parents that clearly favored her brother over her for something she could not control – her appearance. She ran pretty much unsupervised because of it, and ended up robbing a store. She terrorized young Amber at the time without meaning to, didn’t really know she was there. She was so focused and so scared, not likely she had any idea who was there.
She was arrested. Her parents sent her away to a school to ‘reform’ her. When she got out, she goes to her brothers college, hoping to be accepted into the family again maybe. Her brother still treats her the way he did at home, he’s the alpha twin.
She even put on the stupid school uniform and changed her hairstyle back on Parents Weekend. Her mother acted like she wasn’t in the room, and her father remarked her hair looked better straight.
She traded herself for a passing grade in math with the Jason clone.
She left her parental units knowing things ain’t gonna change, and went back to her bike, her straight hair, and her sidekick, Marcie.
I’d say that’s a pretty good back story.
I like Sierra and love/hate Malaya. But, all I know of Sierra is that she doesn’t like shoes, and is very laid back. And Malaya, what’s her story here, I know it in the ‘other universe’, but all I really know of her here is that she is mean as cat shit. And stubborn as a mule.
That’s Malaya’s story. Basically, she’s as nasty as Mike without the punchlines or humor. It gets people asking why they like Mike so much.
I think I like Malaya more in this universe. She does roller derby! SP!Malaya just works at a toy store. I stopped reading SP! several months ago so I don’t know what’s currently up.
I suspect she only likes roller derby because it’s an excuse to body check total strangers.
Jason… clone? I’m pretty sure he’s the actual one for DoA o_O
Amber has problems, everyone knows she does, and feels sorry for her when she is hurting, and jeers her when she screws up.
Looks like Dorothy is not publishing the story, last she appeared anyway. And so what does Amber do in between?
She can’t go back to being Amber because Amber can’t live with the rage. She can’t be Amazi-Girl because she thinks she’s about to be revealed.
She can’t ‘prove’ herself now because Sal, rightly, won’t fight her.
Put a person into a situation with no resolve, and they either kill themselves or go crazy. And she’s half way to crazy now.
Or… you know, just move past it. Most adults live with unresolved situations in their life. For example some relative that they loathe but talking about the issues just devolves into fighting so you put on your showman’s smile every time they’re over and pretend like you’re not still harboring grudges for an entire lifetime’s worth of offenses. That’s something a mentally and emotionally healthy adult can do, because not every interpersonal conflict ends with a satisfactory apology or pistols at sunset.
Of course, Amber’s not that. She seems to experience some sort of trigger or flashback whenever she sees Sal in the halls, putting her into a state of panic.
I don’t personally know what it is that people do when they have those types of triggers in their lives, but that’s a thing people live with. There are people who break down every time a car burns rubber or a passerby casually mentions rape, and they lead functional lives without having to be locked away in the psych ward or committing suicide. There exists a method of working with this.
Problem here is that Amber’s got a pretty good case of dissociative disorder going on. It IS her coping strategy, and it’s not a good one (it never is).
A knee to the stomach and you’re incapacitated? Shoulda been wearing hockey pads.
… If by incapacitated you mean “immediately able to throw your opponent in in the air” like she did yesterday, then sure she’s incapacitated.
Poor AG is just catching her breath.
NO. The difference between a true superhero and a poser is that one of them isn’t wearing hockey pads.
Or, maybe, the true difference between a true superhero and a poser is that a superhero goes and does what is right. (In a superly fashion).
Or, In AGs case, tries to fight evil.
Dammit Willis, why can’t you have simple storytelling with easy predictable morality, and no character depth?!
You mean it’s not the chest window?
@Ridereyu: Casey Jones disagrees. 😉
Only people with multibillion dollar corporations to grab prototype body armor from can be superheroes.
Malaya: What gives you the right to be Amazi Girl?!?!
Amazi Girl: I’m not wearing hockey pads!!!!!
Like I said above, a hit to the solar plexus like A-G took yesterday can cause the diaphragm to spasm and make breathing difficult. It’s really hard to talk, give chase, or, especially, fight, when you can’t get enough air. Hand-to-hand combat is an insanely high-intensity aerobic workout.
That’ll go away soon enough, though. As hits that can stop A-G from continuing the fight or immediately pursuing, but won’t disable her long-term or force her to seek medical attention go, it’s a pretty good one.
Ahh… Marcie. The Voiceless of Reason. Sweet.
All the feels ;___;
Am I wrong to still be rooting for Amazigirl? Might have to do something with what I wished I was able to do to some of my bullies from back in highschool, sometimes is just hard to let those thoughts go, I’m sure they wouldn’t try that now, but still, I mean getting smeared with cow shit and being made fun of for having an accent is not easy to forget, or in Amber’s case, being threated with a knife..
Amber already stabbed the person who threatened her in the hand. Amazi-girl can never add to that, because the person who threatened her no longer exists.
There’s always room for more stabbings.
BTW, I hope my court date goes well!
She doesn’t want to add to it. She wants a do-over, so she can get it right this time.
As awful as the whole thing was for Amber, being the victim of a crime once is not the same as being bullied your whole life.
Amber’s bully was Blaine, not Sal. She got back on him twice already. This is just her being unfair with someone just as damaged as herself.
Well, I root for Batman, I rooted for Rorschach, I might as well be consistent and just admit that I find the idea of a lunatic fighting for justice to be awesome, so I’m also rooting for Amazi-Girl.
Sure, objectively I’m aware that she should seek professional help, but that’s boring. And once you’ve gone this far, you might as well keep going.
In fact, I’d probably be a vigilante myself, if I actually had anyone to seek vengeance on. Don’t worry, I just channel my childhood into productive self loathing, I’m completely fine.
Batman doesn’t usually track you down years after you performed the crime just to beat you up again.
That’d be a pretty big turning point for him if criminals started getting repeated visits from him that just continued no matter how much they reformed their lives.
(actually, it’s been shown a few times that he does, but in the opposite/positive sense – that he keeps track of, and even gives jobs to, those who try to reform.)
To get what right?
Why? What’s on second! That’s already right!
Wow, I’m really surprised by Carla’s range of empathy. She seems much less abrasive than her Walkyverse counterpart.
I’m eager to see more of her.
That…. went about as well as it could. Noone got sent to hospital or anything.
Some things from this day.
Is Carla actually showing concern?
Is Amazing ever going to get her revenge?
Is Sal a little psycho or just hyperboling? (painting with blood and all)
Sal is known to have a temper – she almost loses it, here, but Marcie reins her in. That it should be touched off by someone hurting Malaya, of all things, indicates a certain compassion, though, that was less expected. It’s almost motherly of her.
Especially since she seems to have only known Malaya for a few days and doesn’t even particularly like her.
Maybe she hasn’t been quite as calm as she’s seemed during the entire confrontation.
Maybe. Sal’s control may be hard-earned, and fragile.
Wrong super-villian, Sal.
Wow, Amber’s gone kinda crazy over vengeance, hasn’t she? She’s like the Eren Jaeger of the Dumbiverse.
Now someone must draw Amazi-Girl doing the SnK salute.
Marcie is a good friend.
It’s brutal when the universe shows you that you aren’t as important as you think you are.
The wonderful, tolerant, understanding fanbase shows its best again. If someone misunderstands something, or just simply has the wrong idea the majority of the responses is in a condescending, superior, judgemental, arrogant tone. Good job people. Just because someone thought Marcie was deaf doesn’t mean you instantly have to attack them with an absolutely repulsive style and pointing out they are terrible people for assuming something. This is my biggest problem with the fanbase, that is why I avoid reading comments and try to stay away from them on tumblr. If someone _assumes_ something that usually tends to be the common explanation to a certain thing then some fans just demonize that person and try to point out what a narrowminded shitty person they are. That is just really disgusting.
Anyway. I’m really proud of Sal here.
Thanks for being holier than thou.
Well I’m not a hypocrite who claims to be a hardcore sjw who supposedly tolerates everything and then judges and talks down to everyone who make a mistake so yeah, you know what, I honestly think I am better. That’s life.
I’m confused, because I’m pretty sure only one person has struck out to make fun of that original post, albeit multiple times. You’re kind of being a jerk by lumping every single other person here all in with him.
Are you actually serious? So many people jumped at that person and started making fun of that misconception, as if it was some kind of deadly sin to think something like that. And all this based on the idea that everyone that dares to assume the common answer to something is a narrowminded fuckface. Seriously.
I gotta say, of ALL the things you could complain about. This is a weird battle to pick. I could give you some benefit of the doubt when it was the Sal Hair fiasco cuz that one at least had some decent points and counterpoints. But I’m sorry. If you get mad and can’t laugh off your errors when people joke about it, that seems kinda petty.
*scratches head* If you want to point me out to these posts, then sure.
I’m also not sure Ridureyu has ever claimed to be a “hardcore sjw,” either.
Hell, no. Sometimes things trigger my social justice radar, but not often.
And hey, I’m trolling less these days!
But yeah, making fun of this one? It’s because people have been constantly making that mistake day after day after being corrected. That’s when it reaches point-and-laugh levels.
I respect the right to make fun of any and everyone if it has earned it!
I would be careful how much fun you poke, though. I did have to delete a few of yours that went over the line last night.
Hey, sorry about that. But hey, at least nobody’s brougth in Godwin’s Law yet!
I would honestly sympathise with what you’re saying more if it wasn’t something he’s had to answer like….3-5 times in the past week or so? I personally hate it when the comment section gets condescending and holier than thou but in this specific case, it’s more just…this is like…the 4th time we’ve had to correct people in the last 2 days! That’s redic.
An expression on Marcie’s face! With the glasses and all, she rarely has much of an expression, so it’s good to see, even if it is disapproval of Sal starting to monologue. Also, that went as well as it could. No one in jail or the hospital.
I just got a flash from that first panel–that she’s stunned that just “going Blaine” on someone doesn’t always work. Kinda like Blaine learned in a parking lot a day or so ago–IF he learned.
Don’t know why this showed up as a reply. It was meant as standalone.
First time commenting. This particular page should be renamed “fite me” instead. That is all.
Ok, requesting a standard here – if I post ‘SIGN’, I’m looking for someone to tell me what Marcie is signing. Me and ASL, not friends.
Today she’s just pointing with her thumb in the direction she’d like to go.
Ok, you really need to use less complicated sign language. Generic pointing is just too much for us to interpret correctly.
Something kinda weird and awesome occurred to me, yesterday. Malaya seems a hateful, violent person, but then, so is Mike, and everybody likes him. Well, for various definitions of ‘like’.
So, Mike and Malaya? What kind of pairing would these two make? Friends? Enemies? Lovers? Master/student? Idol/Fan? Would their hate feed off of each other, burning out the sun and causing the premature heat death of the universe? I’d like to hear opinions.
Personally, I think Malaya could learn a lot from Mike. Malaya loses her temper a lot, striking out at random people, and triggering a lot of unintended consequences. Mike hates just as much, but has more control, striking at just the right place, to cause just the intended consequence. He’s like a hate ninja. I have to admire that.
Blast! You Beat me to it! That being said, Malaya could help him build physical power. While his punches are powerful enough the take down a Joe, Malaya is probably physically tougher due to her roller derby skills. Granted, she had a tough time against Amazi-Girl, but she is a much fiercer opponent than the Joe.
I have a hard time picturing Malaya looking up to Mike, so much as rising to anger about 10 times quicker than most of his targets (making her of less interest to him, I would think). Though, if she did feel any sense of kinship with him, it’d go out the window the moment the two go drinking together. The fallout of that would be interesting to see…
The fanfic practically writes itself.
So what I’m really hoping is that Sal will at some point learn why Amazigirl is so against her and like Walky has to realize the hurt she unknowingly inflicted on someone else and tries to make good with Amber because that’s what people do when they’re trying to be better.
So yeah, fingers crossed.
Amber stabbed a knife through Sal’s hand when she couldn’t fight back, then, running across her again, tried to pick a fight with her as Amazigirl purely for her own satisfaction. I think Amber owes Sal an apology, if anything.
Yeah, honestly Sal has shown some great restraint throughout this whole ordeal. Amber came and tried to instigate a fight, and Sal pretty much walked away. Marcie is an excellent role model. If there was a character I came out of this arc wanting to see more of it’s her (followed closely by Sal).
On Amber: I’ve been spending this entire arc trying to figure out why exactly AmaziGirl is so darn gung ho about fighting Sal. At first I thought it was a manifestation of her belief that people don’t change, a mindset that superhero comics would tend to enfource, and as a result felt that it was her duty to fight the villains. But that argument was sort of obliterated by the first thing she says. She isn’t hear to do uphold the law or do the right thing, but doing that would be easier on her. She’s just there to fight, and for the longest time, I wasn’t sure why.
The last line of this comic does such a good job at expressing what Amber has been dealing with. She IS AmaziGirl, and AmaziGirl is her, and she’s there to right Amber’s wrong in cowardly attacking a detained person. She wants to prove to someone (idealist says herself, cynic says her father) that she was capable of dealing with that girl on fair terms.
I love the way it was handled, but as someone who likes the character of Amber, I hope she realizes just how destructive a path she’s been walking.
I’ll get you next time, MotoGirl! NEXT TIME!
(Hey, you try doing an onomatopoeia for that cat noise!)
amber truly is a monster… Then what makes Dina?
Dinosaurs aren’t monsters. They’re creatures. Beasts at worst. As one who channels the dinosaurs Dina would probably be some manner of druid.
Though, with the dinosaurs being dead I suppose you could just as easily deem Dina some manner of spirit medium, carrying ancient wisdom forward into the modern world.
Definitely not a monster though. Even if her strangeness can be frightening, her calling is noble.
What I don’t get is why Amber didn’t try and ambush Sal before she met up with her friends? We saw Sal earlier alone, why did she wait? she only had a grief with Sal not the others, why make the fight more difficult?
Amber’s point in this seems to be winning a “fair” fight against Sal, so she wouldn’t consider ambushing her.
My personal interpretation of this seems to be that Amber feels like stabbing Sal in the hand while she was defenseless made herself feel helpless against others. She thinks that she only managed to “win” over Sal, because she was held by the police. Together with the abuse by her father this could have left some serious self esteem issues. She feels like she only can surpass others when they’re held down. By trying to beat Sal in a fair fight she wants to disprove these feelings. This “loss” might thus lead to some even more serious self esteem issues, as instead of disproving her perceived inability this fight practically proved it to her.
And now I wonder whether I’m right, or just interpreted a whole lot of bullshit into all these comics.
Ok, my apologies, let me rephrase. If Amber wanted a fair fight with Sal to help resolve her past, why did she wait till Sal was with her allies? A 4 on 1 fight is not what I would call fair. She should have followed Sal along and then challenged her while she was alone. If as you say she doesn’t need to ambush she could just call out to Sal and throw down the gauntlet. That way it would be a clear cut equal fight between the two. It just seems strategically foolish to challenge Sal while she has friends who would fight alongside her.
This whole exchange reminded me of Sal vs Billie (long ago and far away)…
“If ah fight back, ahll hurt you.”
Sal’s a character that I love in all the ‘verses.
So, are they all going to grab onto Sal’s bike? Or is she just going to drive reallllly slow. 😉
They all have mad skillz and can keep up with a high performance motorcycle.
*slow sad head shake*
I wonder if Danny could grow to be Amber’s Marcie?
Amaza-girl really made herself look like a dumbass.
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