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by David M Willis on June 16, 2014 at 12:01 am
  • 03 - Up All Night to Get Vengeance
└ Tags: joyce, sarah

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  1. Vivvav
    Vivvav
    June 16, 2014 at 12:01 am | #

    Anime: The Scourge.

    • Jen Aside
      Jen Aside
      June 16, 2014 at 12:02 am | #

      Particularly when Mary does it.

      • Tunaro
        Tunaro
        June 16, 2014 at 12:13 am | #

        Would still buy prints of those drawings, though.

        • Jen Aside
          Jen Aside
          June 16, 2014 at 12:15 am | #

          how ’bout of Joe’s nude modelling session

          • Leorale
            Leorale
            June 16, 2014 at 12:30 am | #

            I wanna see a really Shounen Joe. -_-;;

            • Jen Aside
              Jen Aside
              June 16, 2014 at 12:37 am | #

              being silly, but tempted to say http://s1052.photobucket.com/user/BurningLizard/media/JoJos%20Bizarre%20Adventure/JojoandDio.png.html XD

              • Sageress
                Sageress
                June 16, 2014 at 12:39 am | #

                JoeJoe’s Bizarring of Age

                • Tom Speelman
                  Tom Speelman
                  June 16, 2014 at 1:02 am | #

                  Oh sweet God…my one friend is actually a HARDCORE JJBA fan, so I’ve been hearing about it nonstop and been shown most of the first arc. Now it’s crossed over into DOA comments and I don’t knw what to think.

                • Evil Midnight Lurker
                  Evil Midnight Lurker
                  June 16, 2014 at 2:05 am | #

                  Tom: trying to escape JJBA is USELESS USELESS USELESS

                • Jen Aside
                  Jen Aside
                  June 16, 2014 at 12:48 pm | #

                  MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA

                  [or is that MUDoA]

      • Ivan
        Ivan
        June 16, 2014 at 10:03 am | #

        Can Mary draw Sarah and the “vulvo-stimulator” in action – for the door??

  2. Doctor_Who
    Doctor_Who
    June 16, 2014 at 12:01 am | #

    Mary: Fundamentalist Otaku.

    • Plasma Mongoose
      Plasma Mongoose
      June 16, 2014 at 12:03 am | #

      She only worships Bishie Jesus.

      • Tunaro
        Tunaro
        June 16, 2014 at 12:04 am | #

        As opposed to what, Moe Satan?

        • Betty Anne
          Betty Anne
          June 16, 2014 at 12:07 am | #

          Of course Moe Satan, who else? http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110226233713/dragonball/images/4/47/SatanBlueEyes.png

          • Plasma Mongoose
            Plasma Mongoose
            June 16, 2014 at 12:08 am | #

            That Satan is scary, but his daughter sure is cute. 😀

          • LiaHansen
            LiaHansen
            June 16, 2014 at 12:11 am | #

            SHIT

          • Tunaro
            Tunaro
            June 16, 2014 at 12:11 am | #

            Well played.

          • Opus the Poet
            Opus the Poet
            June 16, 2014 at 12:59 am | #

            What is that from, the picture is familiar…

            • Evil Midnight Lurker
              Evil Midnight Lurker
              June 16, 2014 at 2:07 am | #

              Dragonball Z. That’s professional wrestler Mister Satan, known in America as Hercule.

              • asmcint
                asmcint
                June 16, 2014 at 7:50 pm | #

                He’s… not really a wrestler, though he acts like it. He’s actually a pretty skilled martial artist(though not nearly as skilled as any of the main characters. He’s just skilled by average people standards).

                • Betty Anne
                  Betty Anne
                  June 16, 2014 at 9:14 pm | #

                  Thank you! I freaking love Mr. Satan, even though he’s kind of a “comic relief” character. http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Mr._Satan

          • BlueRam
            BlueRam
            June 16, 2014 at 5:46 am | #

            Last time I checked, the Devil was a part-timer at McDonald’s

            • Lord Geovanni
              Lord Geovanni
              June 16, 2014 at 7:28 am | #

              And James from pokemon opened up a KFC across the street

              • Plume
                Plume
                June 17, 2014 at 1:43 am | #

                That feel of getting the anime references made in the comments section of anything. 🙂

            • evilsupahfly
              evilsupahfly
              June 16, 2014 at 10:07 am | #

              The last time *I* checked, the Devil **owned** McDonalds!

          • Ivan
            Ivan
            June 16, 2014 at 10:08 am | #

            Who else? Larry Satan, Curly Satan, Shemp Satan, Joe Besser Satan, Curly-Joe Satan – the list isn’t long, but it’s comprehensive.

        • Plasma Mongoose
          Plasma Mongoose
          June 16, 2014 at 12:07 am | #

          Yes, he tempts you into sin with his dreaded puppydoy eyes.

        • Yotomoe
          Yotomoe
          June 16, 2014 at 12:08 am | #

          And Tsundere Judas.

          • Tunaro
            Tunaro
            June 16, 2014 at 12:11 am | #

            Always figured Judas more as the original Yandere.

      • Leorale
        Leorale
        June 16, 2014 at 12:05 am | #

        Google image search this. I dare you.

        • Tunaro
          Tunaro
          June 16, 2014 at 12:07 am | #

          I will never unsee that.
          Welp, time to break out the hard liquor…

      • LiaHansen
        LiaHansen
        June 16, 2014 at 12:12 am | #

        http://cdn0.dailydot.com/cache/49/11/4911076a7d34f71f438c3982d24b1305.jpg

      • CianM1301
        CianM1301
        June 16, 2014 at 6:09 am | #

        I wonder if she watches Saint Young Men…

        • Cybersnark
          Cybersnark
          June 16, 2014 at 11:20 am | #

          Everyone should.

      • Cory
        Cory
        April 16, 2015 at 8:59 am | #

        Alternatively: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fc/MangaMessiah.jpg

        Not exactly bishie, but Joyce must never find out about this.

  3. Mr. Random
    Mr. Random
    June 16, 2014 at 12:01 am | #

    It looks very… Bluuuuuuuuuuuu… Bluuuuuuuuuuu… Blupppink.

  4. Tunaro
    Tunaro
    June 16, 2014 at 12:01 am | #

    Damn, Sarah beat me to the vomit joke.

  5. Regalli
    Regalli
    June 16, 2014 at 12:02 am | #

    … Huh. You know I kinda forgot that Mary was an artist in addition to, you know, a being of pure hate.

    • newllend
      newllend
      June 16, 2014 at 12:10 am | #

      Oh that Mary hard to believe Joyce and her still hang out , well actually with Mary being pure ignorance and hate and Joyce being pure ignorance and love they balance each other out.

      • Jen Aside
        Jen Aside
        June 16, 2014 at 12:17 am | #

        Mary feels like “deliberate disinformation” to Joyce’s “happenstance lack of knowledge” tho

        • Rabid Rabbit
          Rabid Rabbit
          June 16, 2014 at 12:37 am | #

          On the other hand, http://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/02-guess-whos-coming-to-galassos/proven/

          • Luzahn
            Luzahn
            June 16, 2014 at 11:26 am | #

            At least she recycles.

  6. Stephen Bierce
    Stephen Bierce
    June 16, 2014 at 12:02 am | #

    Give ’em the ol’ Razzle Dazzle…

  7. Geminia999
    Geminia999
    June 16, 2014 at 12:02 am | #

    I’m surprised Mary doesn’t draw people doing things she detests.

    Though honestly I would like to see more Mary, I actually really find her interesting, and if Willis can love Malaya, then we can definitely have more Mary in our lives

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      June 16, 2014 at 12:04 am | #

      Even at her worst, Malaya was always nice to Leslie and got along with UC.

      I don’t think we’ve ever met anyone who Mary likes.

      • Tunaro
        Tunaro
        June 16, 2014 at 12:06 am | #

        Herself?

        • Yotomoe
          Yotomoe
          June 16, 2014 at 12:09 am | #

          And not even Walkyverse Mary likes her!

  8. Leorale
    Leorale
    June 16, 2014 at 12:03 am | #

    Pretty sure Sarah would never make the face that Mary depicted for her ;D

    • newllend
      newllend
      June 16, 2014 at 12:05 am | #

      Maybe with surgery.

      • Leorale
        Leorale
        June 16, 2014 at 12:43 am | #

        It’d have to be a brain transplant.

  9. GoogerGeiger
    GoogerGeiger
    June 16, 2014 at 12:04 am | #

    Uhh… who’s Mary again?

    • Kernanator
      Kernanator
      June 16, 2014 at 12:06 am | #

      The Worst.

      • Khaner
        Khaner
        June 16, 2014 at 12:07 am | #

        THE Worst.

        • Tunaro
          Tunaro
          June 16, 2014 at 12:08 am | #

          The WORST Worst.

          • Yotomoe
            Yotomoe
            June 16, 2014 at 12:09 am | #

            The Best.
            Naw just kidding
            THE WORST.

            • newllend
              newllend
              June 16, 2014 at 12:14 am | #

              The worst of the WORST.

              • Opus the Poet
                Opus the Poet
                June 16, 2014 at 1:31 am | #

                So bad she’s almost, naahh, she is just the worst, irredeemably.

                • lejwocky
                  lejwocky
                  June 16, 2014 at 10:52 pm | #

                  At least she’s not Faz

        • KingMabel
          KingMabel
          June 16, 2014 at 12:09 am | #

          the WORst

          • Plasma Mongoose
            Plasma Mongoose
            June 16, 2014 at 12:14 am | #

            The wurst?

            • Jen Aside
              Jen Aside
              June 16, 2014 at 12:31 am | #

              the worsted

            • Tenn
              Tenn
              June 16, 2014 at 9:22 am | #

              The bratwurst.

              • -Sentinel-
                -Sentinel-
                June 16, 2014 at 12:58 pm | #

                The wurst brat.

                • nothri
                  nothri
                  June 16, 2014 at 11:27 pm | #

                  She always brought out the worst in me.

                • Roborat
                  Roborat
                  June 18, 2014 at 3:25 pm | #

                  I had some bad sourkraut once, it brought out the wurst in me.

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      June 16, 2014 at 12:07 am | #

      Joyce minus the things we like about Joyce.

      • Jen Aside
        Jen Aside
        June 16, 2014 at 12:08 am | #

        That sounds both accurate and completely wrong.

    • Leorale
      Leorale
      June 16, 2014 at 12:09 am | #

      Dark hair, wristbands, she’s the judgmental b-word who got annoyed with Joyce for inviting Dorothy and Sierra to church with them. http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/02-choosing-my-religion/avoid/

      • CianM1301
        CianM1301
        June 16, 2014 at 6:23 am | #

        She also gave the evil eye to Riley. Which is of course, UNACCEPTABLE!

    • timemonkey
      timemonkey
      June 16, 2014 at 7:21 am | #

      Black hair, hates everyone, rooms with Roz.

      • gwalla
        gwalla
        June 16, 2014 at 2:11 pm | #

        I think her hair’s brown but yeah.

  10. Plasma Mongoose
    Plasma Mongoose
    June 16, 2014 at 12:04 am | #

    At the very least, Sarah should replace her name with one that suits her style better.

    • Yotomoe
      Yotomoe
      June 16, 2014 at 12:11 am | #

      Like Sala? and Joisu?

      • Yotomoe
        Yotomoe
        June 16, 2014 at 12:12 am | #

        Or would it be more like “Sela?” for pronounciation?

        • Jen Aside
          Jen Aside
          June 16, 2014 at 12:21 am | #

          the Japanese go with セーラ (seh-rah)

          • Plasma Mongoose
            Plasma Mongoose
            June 16, 2014 at 12:29 am | #

            I meant her name on the door not her actual name, even though I can kinda understand how you might have thought I said that.

        • Cybersnark
          Cybersnark
          June 16, 2014 at 11:23 am | #

          And now I’m wondering what Romulan anime would be like.

          (Klingons obviously mainline Gurren Lagann and Kill la Kill.)

          • Plasma Mongoose
            Plasma Mongoose
            June 16, 2014 at 4:30 pm | #

            I’m not certain but I bet that the Federation would ban it whatever it was.

  11. newllend
    newllend
    June 16, 2014 at 12:04 am | #

    Rip the door off the hinges and burn it quickly.

  12. MrSirk
    MrSirk
    June 16, 2014 at 12:06 am | #

    I go to art school…it beat it out of me in two days…it wasn’t gentle.

    • Betty Anne
      Betty Anne
      June 16, 2014 at 12:10 am | #

      You made it a while! Most of the time it happens in the first hour of class. :p

    • Yotomoe
      Yotomoe
      June 16, 2014 at 12:12 am | #

      I didn’t even make it to school. I went to summer studio my junior year of high school.

      • Betty Anne
        Betty Anne
        June 16, 2014 at 12:16 am | #

        Woo, you got a head start! At least you weren’t one of the six freshmen standing in the hall after class going, “This professor is so shitty and old fashioned…if this wasn’t a required class, I’d drop it.” :p

        • Yotomoe
          Yotomoe
          June 16, 2014 at 12:22 am | #

          Dude, I legit hate kids like that. Like…Learn something new for once! It won’t hurt ya. And if it does well, life’s all about dissapointment.

        • Deathjavu
          Deathjavu
          June 16, 2014 at 11:06 am | #

          It’s amazing…it’s almost like the old, classic methods got that way for a reason.

          Of course you can break all the rules in art, but you need to know what they are and why they exist to do it well.

          But shitty artists insist they don’t have to learn anything because “art ain’t got no rules, man”, and insist all their flaws are “artistic style”…it all ends up being an excuse not to improve.

          (note: I’m using “artist” as a catch-all term for people who make art, including writers, cartoonists, painters, filmmakers, etc.)

  13. LeslieBean4Shizzle
    LeslieBean4Shizzle
    June 16, 2014 at 12:06 am | #

    “until art school beats it out of her” – ha. Ain’t that the truth.

  14. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    June 16, 2014 at 12:07 am | #

    Howdy from art school.
    I’m just here to back up her claims that art school BEATS THAT SHIT OUT OF YOU. If you wanna draw animu, steel yourself, because everyone’s gonna shit all over your hopes and dreams.

    • Betty Anne
      Betty Anne
      June 16, 2014 at 12:12 am | #

      And by the time you complete your masters degree in art, you’ll be shitting all over the hopes and dreams of the freshmen!

      Or maybe that was just me… .__.;

    • newllend
      newllend
      June 16, 2014 at 12:13 am | #

      They just fear superior art styles.

      • Yotomoe
        Yotomoe
        June 16, 2014 at 12:21 am | #

        Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaahahahahaha

        ….
        ha
        hahahahahhaahhahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahaha

        no.

      • Jen Aside
        Jen Aside
        June 16, 2014 at 12:24 am | #

        Everything that is made before you turn twenty is part of the natural order of things. Everything that is made when you’re twenty to forty is new and exciting and maybe you can make money from it. Everything that’s made after you’re forty is an abomination and will destroy humanity.

        • Plasma Mongoose
          Plasma Mongoose
          June 16, 2014 at 12:28 am | #

          So that means I should view the entire 21st century as an abomination then.

          • newllend
            newllend
            June 16, 2014 at 12:33 am | #

            Does that mean I haft to Destroy my PS3 and 3DS?

            • Matt
              Matt
              June 16, 2014 at 12:50 am | #

              The PS4 is out now, GRANDPA, time to burn that old system in a cleansing fire.

              • Opus the Poet
                Opus the Poet
                June 16, 2014 at 1:07 am | #

                My PS2 still works, and I can hack Gran Turismo 4 to put my cars in it so I can drive them even though they no longer exist. AFAIK the physics model in GT4 is even more realistic than previous editions of GT making it an even better sim for building cars. Why pay for new technology when what you have will do more than what you need?

        • Stifyn Baker
          Stifyn Baker
          June 16, 2014 at 6:43 pm | #

          Gotta love a Douglas Adams quote.

    • Rutee
      Rutee
      June 18, 2014 at 3:02 am | #

      What’s the deal with that? Idle curiosity, art school is of no concern to an old hag.

  15. KingMabel
    KingMabel
    June 16, 2014 at 12:07 am | #

    Does Mary do commissions? I have some OCs that I need draw.

    Clothed, of course.

    • Regalli
      Regalli
      June 16, 2014 at 12:11 am | #

      Yeah because she probably thinks non-human-anatomy-practice nudes are sinful.

      It does say in the hovertext her rates are surprisingly reasonable.

    • Yotomoe
      Yotomoe
      June 16, 2014 at 12:13 am | #

      I’ll describe my OC with literally Every possible feature of the devil, and offer her a grand to sketch it.

    • Jen Aside
      Jen Aside
      June 16, 2014 at 12:27 am | #

      “Found cool thing on deviantART. Discovered it was one artist’s “alternate universe” versions of another artist’s fanfic OCs. Died a little.”

    • Lawzlo
      Lawzlo
      June 16, 2014 at 1:16 am | #

      Mary will do commissions, but as for being clothed, she only draws fully dressed after mid-afternoon.

      • evilsupahfly
        evilsupahfly
        June 16, 2014 at 10:16 am | #

        …. As in, she only draws while being fully dressed after mid-afternoon, or the people she draws are only fully dressed after mid-afternoon?

  16. Kernanator
    Kernanator
    June 16, 2014 at 12:07 am | #

    There is no cure for an Anime infection. Save yourself, Sarah.

    • Bill
      Bill
      June 16, 2014 at 1:35 pm | #

      It could be worse.  Mary could have drawn each of them as a “My Little Pony”.

  17. Khaner
    Khaner
    June 16, 2014 at 12:07 am | #

    Sarah, the proper term is CHIBI.

    • Yotomoe
      Yotomoe
      June 16, 2014 at 12:14 am | #

      “Chihbis or CHybis as some people call them.”
      (time for another game of GUESS THAT REFFERENCE)

  18. Wonder Wig
    Wonder Wig
    June 16, 2014 at 12:08 am | #

    Does Mary approve of the christian symbolism in Evangelion, or does it all just go over her head like me?

    • Plasma Mongoose
      Plasma Mongoose
      June 16, 2014 at 12:10 am | #

      Whiney Shinji fought for our sins.

      • Yotomoe
        Yotomoe
        June 16, 2014 at 12:14 am | #

        Jesus…Get on the Damn Cross.

  19. Dr. Zeus
    Dr. Zeus
    June 16, 2014 at 12:08 am | #

    I want Sarah and Joyce to each decorate their own name/half their own way. The juxtaposition would be delicious.

    • Leorale
      Leorale
      June 16, 2014 at 12:11 am | #

      All Sarah needs is a piece of paper and a thick marker so she can write GO AWAY.

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      June 16, 2014 at 12:12 am | #

      On the left: stickers and ponies and glitter.

      On the right: just a whiteboard with like a billion dicks.

      • Yotomoe
        Yotomoe
        June 16, 2014 at 12:15 am | #

        Which according to Jacob, Joyce will be sucking by the end of the year.

        • Doctor_Who
          Doctor_Who
          June 16, 2014 at 12:17 am | #

          So the whiteboard can help her keep score. She can cross them off as she goes.

          Sarah is nothing if not helpful.

          • Leorale
            Leorale
            June 16, 2014 at 1:06 am | #

            An excellent point.

  20. JessWitt
    JessWitt
    June 16, 2014 at 12:11 am | #

    Mary’s going for an art degree? I guess (almost) every DoA character has a silver lining.

  21. Ragnal
    Ragnal
    June 16, 2014 at 12:12 am | #

    Mary? Drawing anime-style?

    I wouldn’t expect that from her of all people, with the uber-Christian hipocrisy stuff, but okay, I’ll accept it.

    • Yotomoe
      Yotomoe
      June 16, 2014 at 12:16 am | #

      Anime style’s easier than trying to copy religious works. Them shits have some DETAIL.

      • Deathjavu
        Deathjavu
        June 16, 2014 at 1:01 pm | #

        They also have creepily pale 1st & 2nd century Jews, which I recently noticed when I went to my cousin’s wedding.

        Plus the solid marble flooring, table and (seemingly) pillars meant that altar was probably worth, by several different estimations, $1,000,000. I couldn’t help but think Jesus would’ve wanted to flip that solid marble table, but wouldn’t be able to. I got curious and looked up on my phone how much money the Catholic church donates to charity, and it’s estimated at 2.7%.

        I wanted to ask the priest who was there about both of these things, but decided that starting an argument at my cousin’s wedding probably wouldn’t be appreciated by the rest of the family.

        I blame Willis for most of these thoughts.

        • Betty Anne
          Betty Anne
          June 16, 2014 at 3:16 pm | #

          Martin Luther would have liked you. :3

          • Deathjavu
            Deathjavu
            June 16, 2014 at 5:46 pm | #

            Well, I can’t say much about that as he’s dead, but I’ll accept you liking me instead.

            • Betty Anne
              Betty Anne
              June 16, 2014 at 10:06 pm | #

              Excellent! <3

      • gwalla
        gwalla
        June 16, 2014 at 2:17 pm | #

        Not if she copies medieval religious works! Perspective? What’s that?

  22. March
    March
    June 16, 2014 at 12:13 am | #

    I love Sarah giving in to Joyce this way. It’s definitely a sister thing. Like, “you’re freaking embarrassing the hell out of me, but you’re so happy….ugh.” It’s not going to hurt her and it makes Joyce happy, so she gives as much as she can.

    That said, she has a legit standing with that psuedo-anime style. That shit is ugly.

    • Scott
      Scott
      June 16, 2014 at 12:39 am | #

      Nah. I think that Sarah will be cool with it for a few days to set up her plans, then informs Joyce that the price of leaving the decorations up is to submit to vibrator training.

      • Leorale
        Leorale
        June 16, 2014 at 1:08 am | #

        I don’t think that’s Willis’s style of porn.

        • Marianne
          Marianne
          June 16, 2014 at 3:20 am | #

          Personally, when I read “vibrator training” I didn’t get a pornographic mental image at all, but instead an image of a blindfolded Joyce, swinging the vibrator around like a lightsaber at a floating training drone.

          • gwalla
            gwalla
            June 16, 2014 at 2:19 pm | #

            A hovering fleshlight.

  23. LiaHansen
    LiaHansen
    June 16, 2014 at 12:13 am | #

    tbh though Mary’s drawings are kawaii as hell

    • Opus the Poet
      Opus the Poet
      June 16, 2014 at 2:33 am | #

      Meh! They’re still Willis, just a different style of Willis…

  24. Kelly
    Kelly
    June 16, 2014 at 12:14 am | #

    So a comic book writer and some guy involved with short circuit 2? makes sense for them.

    • Kelly
      Kelly
      June 16, 2014 at 12:14 am | #

      oops, wrong Willis comic 😛

      • Rani
        Rani
        June 16, 2014 at 12:20 am | #

        WRONG UNIVERSE HARD REBOOT

    • LiaHansen
      LiaHansen
      June 16, 2014 at 12:15 am | #

      I think you might have the wrong comment section

      • Kelly
        Kelly
        June 16, 2014 at 12:32 am | #

        anything is possible

        • Kelly
          Kelly
          June 16, 2014 at 12:33 am | #

          especially when the tabs are right next to each other.

          • Drunken Nordmann
            Drunken Nordmann
            June 16, 2014 at 4:57 am | #

            I’ve just read your comment under the other comic a few minutes ago.

        • gwalla
          gwalla
          June 18, 2014 at 2:44 pm | #

          When you use your
          ☆IMAGINATION☆

  25. Hoboturtle
    Hoboturtle
    June 16, 2014 at 12:14 am | #

    Is it weird that Mary’s one positive trait of being an artist causes me to want her to actually grow as a person. On the other hand her potential character arc might be too similar to Joyce’s.

    • newllend
      newllend
      June 16, 2014 at 12:24 am | #

      Similar but yet completely the opposite of each other, like two sides of the same coin or night and day…this catches my attention, now I want to see more of her but in a odd situation just to see what she can develop into.

      A situation like maybe being forced to rely on someone she hates or falling in love with someone she thinks she shouldn’t, all to see her tortured with growing pains, Hmmm.

    • Gigafreak
      Gigafreak
      June 16, 2014 at 11:44 am | #

      Kinda makes me wonder what other hate-magnet characters will be fleshed out.

      I wonder if it’s bad that I kind of don’t want Blaine to ever become a better person, since hating him is easy and comfortable. It… probably is bad.

    • Suitora
      Suitora
      June 16, 2014 at 12:59 pm | #

      I don’t see their growth as the same.

      Joyce is simply naive. She’s been sheltered from any sort of life outside of a strict Christian upbringing. She’s a kind-hearted person who believes in loving your neighbor above all else. She’s a Christian in spirit, even though she blindly accepts what she’s been taught without questioning it.

      Mary’s story is different. If I have to compare Mary to someone else, it would have to be Sarah. Both seem to intentionally push people away, but while Sarah uses her scholarship as an excuse, Mary uses her religion as an excuse. Both are coping mechanisms to keep them safe.

      Mary’s likely coming from a place of pain and hurt. If you look at this comic, her expression isn’t one of complete anger. It’s probably around 50% anger, and 50% concern for Joyce.

      http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/02-choosing-my-religion/avoid/

      What I theorize is that she had a big falling out with someone who is atheist, and projects that onto Dorothy. She thinks “all atheists are like that”, so to speak.

      • Daggart
        Daggart
        June 16, 2014 at 2:06 pm | #

        Mary only cares for the appearance of propriety. Cause she’s a uipocritical judgemental bongo. Joyce doesn’t actually care about the appearances so much because she’s a heartfelt believer. She’s like Jesus eating with sinners. Mary would kick them to the curb out of fear that they would make her look contaminated

        Gan. I hate Mary.

    • John
      John
      June 16, 2014 at 7:31 pm | #

      I’m worried about what those wristbands that Mary wears all the time are for.

      Because I don’t want to have to feel sympathy for her.

  26. Sensedog
    Sensedog
    June 16, 2014 at 12:17 am | #

    *Shrugs*

    A lot of anime is good, and a lot of anime is just plain weird. Just like anything else.

    I actually enjoy anime, and I no longer give a fuck if anyone knows.

    • Jen Aside
      Jen Aside
      June 16, 2014 at 12:30 am | #

      It’s that “anime” is Americanized as some kind of style when in JAPAN that just means “animation” [of ANY origin], and what does that even mean since styles vary widely between any cartoons [and the big eye thing was ripped off from Disney anyway]??

      • Opus the Poet
        Opus the Poet
        June 16, 2014 at 2:38 am | #

        Not “ripped off”, forced by ex-Disney artists sent to rebuild Japan’s entertainment industry. Then they ran with it and made it their own. Incidentally, do you know why anime as an art form uses any color in the spectrum (and a few that aren’t) as “natural” hair colors? It’s a reaction to the caucasian artists that were brought in after the war having so many colors of hair, unlike the Japanese who have two, black and a dark red.

        • Bill
          Bill
          June 16, 2014 at 2:54 am | #

          “Hmmm”, he said, as he filed that factoid away for future reference.

        • Kerry
          Kerry
          June 16, 2014 at 11:18 pm | #

          could you source that? from my understanding, characters are given outlandish hair colors as a way of making them look distinctive, something which also happens with western animation

          • David M Willis
            David M Willis
            June 16, 2014 at 11:57 pm | #

            Poor Egon Spengler.

      • begbert2
        begbert2
        June 16, 2014 at 2:49 am | #

        Uh, in americanese the word “anime” means “animation from japan (and maybe other asian places)”. It’s not actually a style description. That said, there are several of artistic conventions that never had much presence in american animation prior to them being imported from japanese animation, and the collection of those conventions results in a recognizable style. Despite the fact that not all japanese animation (aka “anime”) conforms to that style. This doesn’t stop it from being a style.

        You think that’s messed up, look at what we’ve done with the word “ironic”.

        • Jen Aside
          Jen Aside
          June 16, 2014 at 12:55 pm | #

          As Sarah illustrates [hah!] above, “anime” is describing the big-eye look she and Joyce are portrayed in, otherwise she would be naming some specific series the style resembles, or generic “cartoony.”

          This is not an isolated incident–loads of “How To Draw Manga”-taught artists describe their styles as anime, which further shows the evolution [or de-evolution] of language as people corrupt meanings for their own purposes. I mean, when was the last time “no” actually meant “no”? =(

          • Jen Aside
            Jen Aside
            June 16, 2014 at 12:56 pm | #

            Though I should point out that anyone aiming for a “style” is not going to develop properly as an artist. Learn to draw, then “style” will come from that.

        • chisci
          chisci
          June 16, 2014 at 1:20 pm | #

          okay so jen just barely beat me to the punch regarding anime style, but also keep in mind that most americans who speak americanese don’t really know anime beyond like naruto or sailor moon or hentai they claim they haven’t watched or whatever, of course they’re going to think all anime is the same (^▽^U) chibis with eyes with irises filled with undiscovered galaxies and ridiculously spiky hair :B

          idk if this is a thing that happens, but regarding style imagine japanese people thinking that ~*western style*~ is all like the simpsons or family guy, with only thick fat dudes, disproportionately skinny ladies, ⊙_⊙ eyes, block dissonant colors with no shading….. We’re western we know there’s more styles than that, but that’s only because we’ve taken the time to see it

    • hof1991
      hof1991
      June 16, 2014 at 8:27 am | #

      Sturgeon’s Law applies here, as it does everywhere.

      Sturgeon’s revelation, commonly referred to as Sturgeon’s law, is an adage commonly cited as “ninety percent of everything is crap.”

  27. ridtom
    ridtom
    June 16, 2014 at 12:19 am | #

    Aaah, Art Class, where they “claim” to promote free spirited-ness and expression but will shun you for choosing an art style or technique that does not conform to their “ideals”.

    Good times, good times.

  28. Plasma Mongoose
    Plasma Mongoose
    June 16, 2014 at 12:24 am | #

    I take it that from all the comments that cartoon styles are not considered proper art in art classes then? I ask this as a person who has only ever done uptil Year 10 in school.

    • Jen Aside
      Jen Aside
      June 16, 2014 at 12:28 am | #

      Certainly in America they don’t want to teach you something they’re not specifically trained to do.

      Anyway, How To Draw Manga books are everywhere, why would you need to go to art school for that

      • Plasma Mongoose
        Plasma Mongoose
        June 16, 2014 at 12:54 am | #

        I wouldn’t have thought that you would need classes to do things like cubism or abstract either.

        • Opus the Poet
          Opus the Poet
          June 16, 2014 at 2:41 am | #

          Still need to learn composition, and the rest of the “language” of pictorial art. As was said of Picasso and those who would copy him, there’s a world of difference between artists that refuse to draw, and those who can’t draw.

        • Bill
          Bill
          June 16, 2014 at 12:07 pm | #

          You need to be very good at something in order to be very bad at it intentionlly.  Remember Victor Borge?

          • Jen Aside
            Jen Aside
            June 16, 2014 at 12:57 pm | #

            I’m thinking the difference between The Lost Skeleton of Cadavra and Manos: The Hands of Fate

          • Deathjavu
            Deathjavu
            June 16, 2014 at 1:04 pm | #

            Yup. There may not be any rules in art that you can’t break, but you should be doing it knowing what those rules are and why you’re breaking them.

  29. AY
    AY
    June 16, 2014 at 12:31 am | #

    It took four years but my professors are becoming more lenient with those of us who are in the higher level classes. We’re at the point where they don’t care what we’re up to so long as what we do is done well.

    HOWEVER, yeah, if you’re new you’re screwed. They will beat you with the figure drawing skeleton models until you stop that shit

    • AY
      AY
      June 16, 2014 at 12:33 am | #

      *my point being that you need to prove that you understand the human form before you go and stylize it

  30. Arkadi
    Arkadi
    June 16, 2014 at 12:33 am | #

    Mary? No way O_o

  31. pendrake
    pendrake
    June 16, 2014 at 12:46 am | #

    I have a feeling Ruth will come by, see the door, and either…

    -> a. remove the stars and glue them to Joyce

    OR

    -> b. take the door off its hinges, walk away with the door, and leave it an open frame

    • cmd1095
      cmd1095
      June 16, 2014 at 1:19 am | #

      I would be fine with either outcome, 2nd would be funnier though

      • Ancestral Hamster
        Ancestral Hamster
        June 16, 2014 at 2:09 am | #

        How about if Ruth glues the stars to a naked Joyce, could be “interesting”.

        • cmd1095
          cmd1095
          June 16, 2014 at 12:02 pm | #

          I think Joyce would snap, which might be interesting in it’s own way

  32. Nena
    Nena
    June 16, 2014 at 1:06 am | #

    HAHAHA! I love that “until the art school beats it out of her” thing. I work as an art model at a university and see this often!

  33. EvergreenFir
    EvergreenFir
    June 16, 2014 at 1:11 am | #

    Almost as sparkly as Sarah’s vibrator

  34. Heavensrun
    Heavensrun
    June 16, 2014 at 1:16 am | #

    Did…..did Joyce just exhibit -cynicism-? (snif) They grow up so fast.

  35. so279
    so279
    June 16, 2014 at 1:26 am | #

    Whenever I see Joyce talk, I always have a hard time imagining her having a normal voice. She has to talk through those massive dental plates that she has instead of teeth; at least I think they’re plates, the could be baleen.

  36. James
    James
    June 16, 2014 at 1:28 am | #

    “Poop” stopsign? Is that new?

    • Catullus
      Catullus
      June 16, 2014 at 10:24 am | #

      It used to be on their bathroom door, not sure why it’s migrated into the hall.

      • Catullus
        Catullus
        June 16, 2014 at 10:27 am | #

        Update: I looked closer at the first panel and the door is actually open into the room, so the poop sign is actually still on the bathroom door.

        • Jen Aside
          Jen Aside
          June 16, 2014 at 12:59 pm | #

          I just noticed their peephole is actually like boob-level =|

          • Betty Anne
            Betty Anne
            June 16, 2014 at 3:44 pm | #

            Better than mine was, a foot above my eye-level, so I had to drag a step-stool over to look through it. :/

            • Jen Aside
              Jen Aside
              June 17, 2014 at 10:12 pm | #

              Well, thing is at boob-level, you’re only gonna be able to see Dina or someone standing across the hall from the door, which effectively makes the peephole useless.

              Unless you just want to check out the boobs waiting for you on the other side WOO WOO

  37. DT
    DT
    June 16, 2014 at 1:34 am | #

    Joyce & Sarah needs to be the new Joyce & Walky and it needs that door as its logo.

    • Leonou
      Leonou
      June 16, 2014 at 4:22 am | #

      Yes.
      And it needs to be drawn in Mary’s Animu style.

  38. Idon'tcarenomore
    Idon'tcarenomore
    June 16, 2014 at 2:58 am | #

    “…till art school beats it out of her”.

    Surprisingly worldly statement from Joyce.

    • Kinoko
      Kinoko
      June 16, 2014 at 5:36 am | #

      That’s what I was thinking, too. I wonder how Joyce would have learned about fine arts programs’ typical (but not universal) disdain for anime style. From one of her brothers, maybe? Otherwise it sounds like a very un-Joyce-ish thing to say.

      • Cybersnark
        Cybersnark
        June 16, 2014 at 11:31 am | #

        Or maybe it’s something Mary said when she and Joyce interacted off-panel.

        • Kerry
          Kerry
          June 16, 2014 at 11:14 pm | #

          yeah, I’m pretty sure joyce is just indirectly quoting her

      • cmd1095
        cmd1095
        June 16, 2014 at 11:59 am | #

        Well a lot of extreme Christian fanatics bash anime and call it satanic and all that (you know, like they react to everything that is not church). It’s entirely possible that Joyce is the same way and then this statement would make perfect sense from her

        • gwalla
          gwalla
          June 16, 2014 at 2:25 pm | #

          If she thought it was satanic, she would never have stood for it on her door.

  39. FuryOfFirestorm
    FuryOfFirestorm
    June 16, 2014 at 5:30 am | #

    Needs more penises.

    Get that marker warmed up Sarah…you got work to do!

  40. Linkara
    Linkara
    June 16, 2014 at 6:21 am | #

    Oh no…

    Mary’s going to be one of the people who draws fanart where her favorite characters accept Jesus and stuff, right?

    • Betty Anne
      Betty Anne
      June 16, 2014 at 3:52 pm | #

      If she does, I’m going to send her a link to “My Immortal” with a request for fanart for it. XD

      • timemonkey
        timemonkey
        June 16, 2014 at 8:29 pm | #

        I need to reread that comic.

        • Betty Anne
          Betty Anne
          June 16, 2014 at 9:36 pm | #

          OGODS it’s a comic now? O.O It was just a (horrible) fanfic when I read it back in the day. D:

          • Lanval
            Lanval
            June 16, 2014 at 10:11 pm | #

            People illustrated it while playing up the ridiculous typos where they could. It’s enjoyable but the fanfic version is better [if you can suffer through it all]

            • gwalla
              gwalla
              June 18, 2014 at 3:42 pm | #

              So, sort of like the machinima version of “Half-Life: Full Life Consequences”?

  41. Ghola
    Ghola
    June 16, 2014 at 8:48 am | #

    The time honored tradition of arts and crafts to keep oneself from jerking it…

    She’s gonna bedazzle their entire room before the end of the semester.

  42. Animal
    Animal
    June 16, 2014 at 8:58 am | #

    Mary, Mary, where you goin’ to?
    Mary, Mary, can I go too?
    This one thing I will vow ya,
    I’d rather die than to live without ya.
    Mary, Mary, where you goin’ to?

    Mary, Mary, tell me truly
    What did I do to make you leave me.
    Whatever it was I didn’t mean to,
    You know I never would try and hurt ya.
    Mary, Mary, where you goin’ to?

    What more, Mary, can I do
    To prove my love is truly yours?
    I’ve done more now than a clear-thinkin’ man would do.

    Mary, Mary, it’s not over.
    Where you go, I will follow.
    ‘Til I win your love again
    And walk beside you,
    But until then.
    Mary, Mary, where you goin’ to?

    Mary, Mary, where you goin’ to?
    Mary, where you goin’ to?
    Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary, where you goin’ to?

    • gwalla
      gwalla
      June 16, 2014 at 2:27 pm | #

      Mary, why ya’ buggin’?

  43. Bagge
    Bagge
    June 16, 2014 at 9:39 am | #

    Joyce’s choice of color has nothing to to with getting back at Sarah for various Dong-related incidents. Nothing.

    This is how a REBEL decorates her door.

    • Sambo
      Sambo
      June 16, 2014 at 2:35 pm | #

      Sal is obviously not enough of a rebel to wear pink

      • Bagge
        Bagge
        June 16, 2014 at 3:23 pm | #

        Sal’s such a poser. She doesn’t even chew on a pencil.

      • Bagge
        Bagge
        June 16, 2014 at 3:24 pm | #

        To be less silly, Joyce behavior now is exactly adhering to Sal’s advice on how to be a rebel – embrace your own style rather than emulating someone else’s.

      • timemonkey
        timemonkey
        June 16, 2014 at 8:21 pm | #

        Sal wore pink yesterday.

  44. ajm5007
    ajm5007
    June 16, 2014 at 10:08 am | #

    poop

    Comedy gold!

  45. OmegaDez
    OmegaDez
    June 16, 2014 at 10:11 am | #

    People have been trying to beat the “anime” out of me for decades.
    I wonder if it’ll ever happen.

    • Lanval
      Lanval
      June 16, 2014 at 10:09 pm | #

      Worked on me eventually! Sorta.

      I shudder a bit at people who take it too seriously but I do love watching some of the old stuff; either to make fun of with friends or genuinely enjoy a classic [though I still snark a little but I do that for everything].

      • OmegaDez
        OmegaDez
        June 18, 2014 at 1:32 am | #

        Oh, I didn’t mean watching anime…(I barely watch any). But my art style is definitely anime-influenced, something “real artists” sneer at.

  46. Dave
    Dave
    June 16, 2014 at 1:14 pm | #

    Oh, man. So true.

  47. chisci
    chisci
    June 16, 2014 at 1:32 pm | #

    of course Mary thinks everybody’s done something wrong, mainstream anime is full of ecchi, morally ambiguous androgynous (anti?)villains, and not a nearly favorable christian ideology to eastern ideology ratio for western tastes! She might not be a full-blown weeb but growing up on that stuff can shape your views differently, along with conflicting morals and all that.

    That compounded with her being super mega christian definitely means she was the “kneeling and crying praying to the heavens at Golgotha” type of fanartist, doesn’t it

    • chisci
      chisci
      June 16, 2014 at 1:34 pm | #

      orrr maybe i’m just reading too much into it and she just learned to draw on a how to draw manga book nevermind

  48. Sambo
    Sambo
    June 16, 2014 at 2:33 pm | #

    At least it’s on the inside of the door and not the outside

    • Jen Aside
      Jen Aside
      June 16, 2014 at 2:48 pm | #

      Actually, it IS the outside-facing part of the door. Joyce is just working on it with the door propped all the way open. [Imagine Dina standing behind it, facing the non-decorated side.]

      • Sambo
        Sambo
        June 17, 2014 at 6:08 pm | #

        Ahh

      • Sambo
        Sambo
        June 17, 2014 at 6:09 pm | #

        Sucks for Sarah, then!

  49. anonymous
    anonymous
    June 16, 2014 at 8:24 pm | #

    That f*cking Mary is a piece of shit.

  50. Romanticide
    Romanticide
    June 17, 2014 at 12:42 am | #

    So art school teachers here hate anime and manga as much of art school teachers in other places, for some reason I am not surprised.
    And ultra judgey christians liking anime is not as strange as some people think… XD

  51. Akahane
    Akahane
    March 10, 2015 at 5:42 am | #

    Yeah, we said that about a lot of people in animation classes.

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Dumbing of Age: "Detouring" www.dumbingofage.com/2025/comic/b... #webcomics #webcomic
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Detouring
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
wilding out at this old becky profile
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Linkara @linkara.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
Also, I see we're bringing back the ol' love octagon.
Several panels from the webcomic Shortpacked! depicting the character Robin Desanto unveiling a chalkboard that shows various characters in the webcomics' romantic relationship statuses to each other, the equivalent of a
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John Berry @drawncoyote.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
It worked! Thanks, Joe! Also, sorry, Joe.
Joe:
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
I think you mean Poop. Prints don't drop from the butt.
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Dan Schkade @danschkade.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
Happy Nonbinary People's Day, you gemstones. A year or two back we introduced FLASH GORDON's first enby, the outlaw lawman Bones Malock. Having known and loved a lot of nonbinary people, I knew the truest way to represent you was as a unsettling desert pirate with a lightning sword
Flash Gordon's Bones Malock:
Bones Malock, under captions reading:
Bones Malock and Flash Gordon.

Flash: Okay... wait thirty seconds, then give me a distraction.

Bones: Got just the thing.

Flash: Do NOT blow the place up.

Bones: You're the boss.
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Hannah Who @notablyuncool.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
Happy International Non-Binary People's Day to all those who work, create, parent, protest, love and live without ever fitting into someone else's category.
header image - a yellow purple and black flag flies in the wind
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a yellow purple and black flag flies in the wind
Alt: Non-binary flag blowing in the wind
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Haus of Decline @hausofdecline.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
A blond female Philly Phanatic says
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Bits @bitshammer.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
Mood
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Jacob @jacobaugust.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
Nice.
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DaisyFM ✒︎ @daisyfm.net ⋅ 2d
Okay, everyone's jumping to conclusions, but Joyce was hit with a mysterious pink gas in Thursday's strip. Now, in recent years, the police are known to increasingly use military grade weapons. Which reminded me of this bit of proposed technology from the 1990s: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_bomb
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Gay bomb - Wikipedia
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
I ain't readin' all that!
damnyouwillis.bsky.social's user avatarDavid M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
Dumbing of Age: "LIVE JOCELYNE REACTION" www.dumbingofage.com/2025/comic/b... #webcomics #webcomic
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LIVE JOCELYNE REACTION
that's not the end!  there's more tomorrow, already on patreon!...
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
Dumbing of Age: "LIVE JOCELYNE REACTION" www.dumbingofage.com/2025/comic/b... #webcomics #webcomic
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LIVE JOCELYNE REACTION
that's not the end!  there's more tomorrow, already on patreon!...
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Jay Edidin @edidin.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
hey, kid, what do you want to play with from the cool superhero movie? is it a nude, melting senator who feels like a stretch armstrong doll that has been left out in the son and maybe mildly chewed by a neighborhood dog? WELL, SON, YOU'RE IN LUCK!
the most upsetting toy of all time: a small and horrible statue of melting, nude Senator Kelly from the first x-men film
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Brendel @brendelbored.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
James Gunn i demand u bring back Conservative Superman
Superman shaking Jared Fogle’s hand
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
(July 10, 2026)
Sal and Danny saw you from across the room and enjoy your vibe.
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
trying to voice recognition a search for superman's actor
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Drivaaar @drivaaar.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
I want YOU to transform Autobot City (with generous green spaces, affordable public transport and amenities, and plentiful social initiatives)
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
welp back to drawing comics featuring a character you can't see yet for like 11 months
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Paul Bassett Davies @thewritertype.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
Then they came for the sarcastic people and I was like oh great that's exactly what we need right now well done to all concerned.
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Cass 🪻 @cassmoney.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
Comic of a man peering through a window.
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Dumbing of Age: "Can’t leave you if I stay" www.dumbingofage.com/2025/comic/b... #webcomics #webcomic
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Can’t leave you if I stay
jesus christ tomorrow's strip early on patreon oh my god...
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Dorothy: You can't just follow me into fire! Joyce: You don't want me following you into fire? Then don't run into fire!
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