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by David M Willis on March 2, 2011 at 12:01 am
  • 04 - The Bechdel Test
└ Tags: agatha, danny, joe, roz

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  1. G.S.Mercs
    G.S.Mercs
    March 2, 2011 at 12:02 am | #

    So she’s supporting condom use… but didn’t make Joe wear one when he Joe’d her…

    • Tristan J
      Tristan J
      March 2, 2011 at 12:20 am | #

      How do you know that? We never saw them having sex.

    • Milosh
      Milosh
      March 2, 2011 at 12:20 am | #

      Yeah, I’m confused about that too.
      “I can trust her because she actively preaches condom use! And, uh, doesn’t follow through on that preaching….”

    • David Herbert
      David Herbert
      March 2, 2011 at 12:23 am | #

      You can both be on the pill and still use condoms to prevent STDs.

      • Rognik
        Rognik
        March 2, 2011 at 10:21 am | #

        Uh… I don’t think they make a pill for guys. At least, not that kind of pill.

        • ScytheAkse
          ScytheAkse
          March 2, 2011 at 1:16 pm | #

          actually they DO!! also have a shot that last like 5 years

          • Jetstream
            Jetstream
            January 27, 2012 at 12:11 am | #

            My understanding is that those sorts of things aren’t really available widely, as they’re still being tested.

      • Bill M.
        Bill M.
        March 2, 2011 at 12:30 pm | #

        Ah, but Joe didn’t bring up condom use, he only brought up pill use, and the pill does not prevent STDs.

    • Eposi
      Eposi
      March 2, 2011 at 1:07 am | #

      maybe she’s been scolded for using to many, and not handing them out… or maybe she lied and is trying to trap a man

    • Tristan J
      Tristan J
      March 2, 2011 at 1:11 am | #

      Okay, seriously, why are all of you assuming that she didn’t make him wear a condom? Or, conversely, that Joe wouldn’t automatically wear one?

      • G.S.Mercs
        G.S.Mercs
        March 2, 2011 at 1:15 am | #

        When Danny questioned him on possibly becoming a father, all he said was that she was on the pill. Had he used a condom, he would have used that in his defence as well as opposed to just mentioning the pill.

        • Tristan J
          Tristan J
          March 2, 2011 at 1:26 am | #

          Fair enough. I just can’t connect the idea of Joe being this ultra-careful in planning out dates (to the point of deconstructing the psychology of everybody involved for maximum pleasure), and not bothering to wear a condom.

          • aydr
            aydr
            March 2, 2011 at 1:33 am | #

            “maximum pleasure”

            I would assume these two weren’t stupid enough to not use a condom, but like you said- what Joe has in mind is usually maximum pleasure, and that doesn’t include condoms.

          • Tristan J
            Tristan J
            March 2, 2011 at 2:23 am | #

            I just assume Joe would consider a baby or an STI unpleasurable.

        • Shivore
          Shivore
          March 2, 2011 at 7:25 am | #

          Considering condoms still result in pregnancy a whole heck of a lot more often then the pill, I bet that’s why just the pill was mentioned.

          • David
            David M Willis
            March 2, 2011 at 8:32 am | #

            If both are used correctly, the difference in the rate of success is only 1%. I dunno if that’s a “heck of a lot more.”

            • TheGrammarLegionary
              TheGrammarLegionary
              September 10, 2015 at 2:20 am | #

              One percent, or one percentage point?

          • avfc
            avfc
            March 2, 2011 at 12:00 pm | #

            Yes but David condoms in this case would be to stop the transmission of std’s as well as to boost your chance of avoiding a pregnancy. Although implanon + condoms is the best. Plus, you can’t always rely on what other people say…

          • Rodrigo
            Rodrigo
            March 4, 2011 at 11:52 pm | #

            Of course its a heck lot more! It’s 1% risk is 6 times safer than 6% risk. It could save 5 disasters in each 100 fun-times.

      • Radome
        Radome
        March 2, 2011 at 1:19 am | #

        “Hey, I’m not stupid. She said she was on the pill, man.” is the reason people, at least me, assumed that. When I read it, it reads as the only protection they used was the pill. Otherwise, wouldn’t he have said something like “We both used protection” or “she’s on the pill, and I used a condom.” But. that’s just my take on it.

    • DeNarr
      DeNarr
      March 2, 2011 at 10:24 am | #

      I think the point being made here was that she is an advocate of preventing pregnancy, and the handing out condoms is a way of doing this. If she is on the pill, she knows she is meeting her requirement, with or without the use of the condom. Yes, condoms will protect from STDs, but that’s not what she is advocating in the last panel.

  2. DaniellePhantom
    DaniellePhantom
    March 2, 2011 at 12:02 am | #

    i’m suddenly reminded of an snl skit…

  3. Mkvenner
    Mkvenner
    March 2, 2011 at 12:02 am | #

    *half hearted* Damn you Willis?

  4. Digidestined of Trust (Tim)
    Digidestined of Trust (Tim)
    March 2, 2011 at 12:03 am | #

    I’m officially disturbed

    • ScytheAkse
      ScytheAkse
      March 2, 2011 at 12:05 am | #

      amen my brother

      • Digidestined of Trust (Tim)
        Digidestined of Trust (Tim)
        March 2, 2011 at 12:09 am | #

        Of course so is Danny. It’s just….wow…. oy vey.

  5. Coppermouth
    Coppermouth
    March 2, 2011 at 12:04 am | #

    Oh, hey, Agatha. Nice seeing you again.

  6. arjay2813
    arjay2813
    March 2, 2011 at 12:05 am | #

    i absolutely love her hat..although i don’t want one for myself

  7. Wackd
    Wackd
    March 2, 2011 at 12:05 am | #

    Roz is secretly related to Beth Oblong!

  8. Someone
    Someone
    March 2, 2011 at 12:05 am | #

    She needs a better line. “If you won’t protect your date, you better get back home and masturbate”

    • Milosh
      Milosh
      March 2, 2011 at 12:17 am | #

      “Should you have sex but wish to avoid procreation/ Either choose protection, or else choose castration”

      • Dahlia
        Dahlia
        March 2, 2011 at 12:57 am | #

        Brilliant! Both of you! XD

      • MM
        MM
        March 2, 2011 at 1:38 am | #

        That does kinda validate Danny’s concern about the “dickless” possibility, though.

    • alicemacher
      alicemacher
      March 2, 2011 at 12:29 am | #

      You guys are killing me here XD +10

    • Janos
      Janos
      March 2, 2011 at 5:16 am | #

      Dont cause a baby Fuck up, wrap your dick up!”

    • Plasma Mongoose
      Plasma Mongoose
      July 7, 2011 at 8:34 pm | #

      Don’t procreate, masturbate…errr wait that’s not right.

  9. Lillian
    Lillian
    March 2, 2011 at 12:06 am | #

    That HAT…. I’m pretty sure only Roz would wear that hat. In public.

    • The HellJack
      The HellJack
      March 2, 2011 at 3:31 am | #

      Hell, she probably got the job because she already owned the hat.

  10. The Sound Defense
    The Sound Defense
    March 2, 2011 at 12:08 am | #

    Seeing Roz like that makes me happy for reasons I can’t fully explain.

    • Madock345
      Madock345
      March 2, 2011 at 1:27 am | #

      that is good, I get the feeling that if you could fully explain then thier would be waaay to much squick involved

  11. Tunasammich
    Tunasammich
    March 2, 2011 at 12:11 am | #

    I guess in this universe Roz is a totally awesome badass

  12. Tori
    Tori
    March 2, 2011 at 12:12 am | #

    Okay that is adorable. I love Roz.

    • alicemacher
      alicemacher
      March 2, 2011 at 12:33 am | #

      Yeah, I’m liking this universe’s Roz much better.

      • laila
        laila
        March 2, 2011 at 11:37 am | #

        Same here. I’m honestly liking this take on Roz, whereas the one in Shortpacked made me want to claw my own skin off. Funny, that.

  13. Ragnal
    Ragnal
    March 2, 2011 at 12:14 am | #

    See? In this world, Roz is FOR condom use and all that other stuff.

    …Kinda hope she’s not for bashing the sex addicts…

    • David
      David M Willis
      March 2, 2011 at 12:19 am | #

      I’m sure she’s for contraception in the other universe, too.

      • Ragnal
        Ragnal
        March 2, 2011 at 12:23 am | #

        Hm. You got me there. This one just seems more open.

        …and braver. I mean…dildo on a head. Who’d wear that in public?

        • Tristan J
          Tristan J
          March 2, 2011 at 12:26 am | #

          Someone who is also willing to masturbate in front of people for money?

        • Malph
          Malph
          March 2, 2011 at 2:05 am | #

          How much does the job pay? I’ll do most jobs if the pay’s good (I know, I’m a whore).

          (Not that kind of whore.)

  14. TheCerpent
    TheCerpent
    March 2, 2011 at 12:14 am | #

    She has a Jimmy Hat!

    • Madock345
      Madock345
      March 2, 2011 at 1:24 am | #

      better keep it out of the freezer

  15. Doctor_Who
    Doctor_Who
    March 2, 2011 at 12:15 am | #

    We’ve found the next hat Willis is going to make for us!

    I propose a new hat every month!

    • Crimson Magic
      Crimson Magic
      March 2, 2011 at 12:47 am | #

      I would wear it to class every day.

      • KZero
        KZero
        March 2, 2011 at 2:53 am | #

        For some reason the icon of RM along with that declaration is fantastic.

        • Kamino Neko
          Kamino Neko
          March 2, 2011 at 3:35 pm | #

          Hmm. Think Red Mage would refuse to wear a condom normally, declaring that there’s nothing in the rules that states wearing it as a hat isn’t just as effective?

          • Crimson Magic
            Crimson Magic
            March 2, 2011 at 6:17 pm | #

            So long as it’s on a “member” of your body, you still receive the benefits!

  16. Ragnal
    Ragnal
    March 2, 2011 at 12:16 am | #

    Also, HILARIOUS.

  17. Viktoria
    Viktoria
    March 2, 2011 at 12:29 am | #

    Huh. Roz with redeeming qualities. Who’da thunk it?

  18. Brandon
    Brandon
    March 2, 2011 at 12:47 am | #

    Does shes…Have a …on her head…?

    • Malph
      Malph
      March 2, 2011 at 2:05 am | #

      Yes, yes she does.

  19. turkishproverb
    turkishproverb
    March 2, 2011 at 12:51 am | #

    Hmmm…I’m suddenly liking alt-Roz. and imagining the culture shock a certian someone will get wehn she sees her in that getup.

    • Madock345
      Madock345
      March 2, 2011 at 1:26 am | #

      no culture shock, most likely she will have no idea what it is, and (if willis is a bastard) think its cute and wear one. or she will drop dead on the spot.

  20. Dahlia
    Dahlia
    March 2, 2011 at 12:53 am | #

    My first thought at seeing Roz: “Awww, shes so cute, caring about others and encouraging safe sex!”

    I was actually neutral towards her, now I like her! For reasons I can’t explain, I also like Joe O_o

    • Crimson Magic
      Crimson Magic
      March 2, 2011 at 12:55 am | #

      I’ve always liked Joe. He’s a “Jerk” with a Heart of Gold.

      • Dahlia
        Dahlia
        March 2, 2011 at 12:59 am | #

        D//x Ugh, he IS.

        I just can’t put my finger on it, but if he was nice enough to win RACHEL over ON THE INTERNET, imagine if he acted the way he did online IN REAL LIFE.

        Tall, dark, handsome, AND sweet, kind, and considerate? He would literally be God’s gift to women O_o

  21. skies
    skies
    March 2, 2011 at 1:04 am | #

    Welp, I have a new favorite character.

    • Crimson Magic
      Crimson Magic
      March 2, 2011 at 6:18 pm | #

      Danny?

  22. Alechsa
    Alechsa
    March 2, 2011 at 1:18 am | #

    Aaannnndddd.. cue Joyce walking by…. with Mike… and Roz getting a black eye because Mike gets paid five bucks a day on retainer.

  23. wynne
    wynne
    March 2, 2011 at 2:16 am | #

    I’m a little concerned that Danny doesn’t seem to mind the fact that Joe joed Roz while he was in the room. Not to mention that she taped the camera to his foot.

    • JesseJanitect
      JesseJanitect
      March 2, 2011 at 4:21 pm | #

      I think Danny is an extremely heavy sleeper out of sheer self-preservation.

  24. Ryanwoofs
    Ryanwoofs
    March 2, 2011 at 2:26 am | #

    See? Roz is still a dickhead here.

    • Madock345
      Madock345
      March 2, 2011 at 2:31 am | #

      I see what you did there
      …with your penis

  25. KZero
    KZero
    March 2, 2011 at 3:00 am | #

    I always liked Roz, I mean, she is a little sleasy in SPack, but she hasn’t really done anything evil.

    So far this Roz is very entertaining!

    @_@ why do I keep getting Joyce and Cap’n A. (SPack). I am not like these people at all.

    @ David: I don’t have Twitter so I’m mentioning it here: Ruth and Danny together actually sounds pretty good to me. Just because they’re not ‘teh seks’ doesn’t make them a bad pair D:

    • ScytheAkse
      ScytheAkse
      March 2, 2011 at 3:07 am | #

      i agree danny and joyce would be adorable

    • Undrave
      Undrave
      March 2, 2011 at 7:58 am | #

      Yeah she’s likeable and only had two lines of dialogue so far :p

  26. Heather
    Heather
    March 2, 2011 at 4:28 am | #

    Roz in this universe is promoting a good cause, good for her. Myabe her DoA version WILL be better.

  27. Tana
    Tana
    March 2, 2011 at 7:28 am | #

    Well… that’s a win for most awkward hat. Ever.

  28. agentksilver
    agentksilver
    March 2, 2011 at 9:29 am | #

    I…like…Roz? Even in the SP! universe she’s not bad…but in this one I like her.

    • agentksilver
      agentksilver
      March 2, 2011 at 9:31 am | #

      Also I’m suddenly having visions of her touting the benefits of condom use for the camera while she’s putting one on Joe. Joe was probably fine with it.

  29. Daibhid C
    Daibhid C
    March 2, 2011 at 10:44 am | #

    It’s a much better answer than “What are consequences?”

    • Daibhid C
      Daibhid C
      March 2, 2011 at 10:46 am | #

      Although it’s just occured to me it only addresses one of Danny’s concerns. (As others have said, maybe he did wear a condom as well, but he doesn’t mention it.)

  30. Janette
    Janette
    March 2, 2011 at 1:20 pm | #

    I’m in love.

    • Madock345
      Madock345
      March 2, 2011 at 2:13 pm | #

      with which one? so much to love here its hard to tell.

  31. Jason
    Jason
    March 2, 2011 at 2:17 pm | #

    I’m foreseeing an encounter with Joyce that is either awkward or REALLY awkward, depending on Joyce’s particular brand of fundamentalism. (Or a conflict with Mary.)

  32. Jason
    Jason
    March 2, 2011 at 2:19 pm | #

    P.S. Joe, the pill won’t help against VDs, buddy. Like Danny said, don’t wanna end up dickless!

  33. BriGuy
    BriGuy
    March 2, 2011 at 3:08 pm | #

    It looks like she’s selling raffle tickets. Or hot dogs…

    …with condiments.

  34. Mystrana
    Mystrana
    March 2, 2011 at 4:50 pm | #

    Was curious – noticed that Roz has her profile up on the cast page but that there’s not one for Dina. Unless Dina’s profile is invisible, in which case I totally understand.

    • Crimson Magic
      Crimson Magic
      March 2, 2011 at 6:27 pm | #

      href=”http://www.dumbingofage.com/cast/attachment/castdina/” title=”Very Meta” style=”text-decoration : none”>It’s right here

  35. Gianni
    Gianni
    March 2, 2011 at 8:47 pm | #

    Love the poster for Planned Parenthood. Now that the Government is trying to fuck all women over by denying funds for critical care of prospective mothers (and women who DON’T WANT to be prospective mothers), good to see it pop up somewhere like this.

    • David
      David M Willis
      March 2, 2011 at 10:08 pm | #

      Sort of a happy accident. I drew this strip a month ago, and there was a period of time a week or two back that I worried by the time the strip showed up, PP would be, uh, anachronistic.

      • Mkvenner
        Mkvenner
        July 8, 2011 at 1:49 am | #

        In this political system? For 18 out of the past 20 years nothing ever got do.

    • SherBeans
      SherBeans
      March 3, 2011 at 9:52 am | #

      I saw that too and even though it may have been an accident it is showing support in some way. (;

  36. Cheredarenee
    Cheredarenee
    March 2, 2011 at 8:58 pm | #

    omg DoA Roz is me! …minus the sex with strangers part…

  37. Sili
    Sili
    March 3, 2011 at 10:57 am | #

    Planned Parenthood should have more public DildoGirls. I’d love to the see the fundies’ heads explode at the sight.

  38. friartuck
    friartuck
    March 3, 2011 at 9:25 pm | #

    …Berma-Shave.

  39. Metz
    Metz
    May 5, 2011 at 7:59 pm | #

    Yeah this is a bit late to add to the conversation, but maybe Joe thinks it isn’t cool to tell other guys (even his best bud) if he wears a sheath. Letting others {think} he doesn’t worry about stuff like that, it’s the “girl’s job”. But in reality he takes care of himself and the girl.

  40. Kernanator
    Kernanator
    July 19, 2011 at 7:09 pm | #

    I bet Joe got wiener mange.

  41. SonicBlueRanger
    SonicBlueRanger
    September 9, 2011 at 1:58 pm | #

    She has a Condom on her head…Ew that came out wrong in like 8 different way’s.

  42. OhHayMike
    OhHayMike
    September 20, 2011 at 11:03 pm | #

    Well, Robin is her sister, so we don’t know that she’s on the RIGHT pill…

  43. Ragnal
    Ragnal
    October 26, 2013 at 8:19 pm | #

    It’s been a while since I’ve seen this strip.

    It’s still as glorious as the day I first saw it.

  44. Kilo
    Kilo
    August 2, 2015 at 4:53 pm | #

    By the tags, that’s the same Agatha as later, yes? In which case… I’m not sure she’s the best audience for this promotion.

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