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by David M Willis on May 3, 2011 at 12:01 am
  • 05 - Media Rumble
└ Tags: joyce, sarah

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  1. Kurai_Seraphim
    Kurai_Seraphim
    May 3, 2011 at 12:02 am | #

    In Sarah’s defense, it’s the world that’s ugly.

    • DaniellePhantom
      DaniellePhantom
      May 3, 2011 at 12:39 am | #

      love this quote. loved since the very beginning.

      • Linkara
        Linkara
        May 3, 2011 at 2:25 am | #

        It does make me wonder – since this is an alternate universe/remake of It’s Walky, does that mean Willis will reuse some of his own material? I mean, sure, it’s GOOD material and I wouldn’t mind a rehash, but I am curious.

        • David Herbert
          David Herbert
          May 3, 2011 at 2:35 am | #

          Possibly, after all these are the same characters and it’s likely they’ll have the same situations and growths.

        • taekwondogirl
          taekwondogirl
          May 3, 2011 at 2:53 am | #

          Well the idea is that there’s nothing sci-fi about the characters anymore so it’s a big “What If?” scenario. You can’t change certain things that are key to the characters but this time we get to see them before we met them in Roomies! or It’s Walky!

        • Kelvin
          Kelvin
          August 30, 2011 at 8:27 am | #

          Linkara! You’re a Walky Verse fan? I don’t think he will. Especially given the chance to let characters who have never met in-universe interact with each other.

  2. arjay2813
    arjay2813
    May 3, 2011 at 12:04 am | #

    Sarah’s got it right, her being broken by the world will be sad, but Joyce is right to at least try new things.

    • Scott
      Scott
      May 3, 2011 at 2:04 am | #

      Maybe she’ll try punching less people when the world breaks her.

  3. addude
    addude
    May 3, 2011 at 12:05 am | #

    what Joyce said made me laugh out loud and then I finished and my thoughts matched Sarah’s it made me sad. Congrats Willis you got me on both ends of the emotional spectrum

  4. calendarman27
    calendarman27
    May 3, 2011 at 12:05 am | #

    the world might break her, but that doesn’t mean she cant be rebuily, we have the technology

    • calendarman27
      calendarman27
      May 3, 2011 at 12:06 am | #

      “rebuilt” is what i meant dammit

      • Henry
        Henry
        May 3, 2011 at 12:08 am | #

        We can rebuild her: faster, stronger, Joyce-er.

        • dchorror
          dchorror
          May 3, 2011 at 1:51 am | #

          Is that good thing?

        • Bekah
          Bekah
          May 3, 2011 at 1:55 am | #

          THE HORROR!

          • JasonBourne
            JasonBourne
            May 4, 2011 at 12:15 am | #

            such a perfect gravatar

        • Plasma Mongoose
          Plasma Mongoose
          May 3, 2011 at 4:51 am | #

          We have the technology to do that?

          • Leonardo
            Leonardo
            May 3, 2011 at 7:56 pm | #

            It’s offical. You two are only allowed to post one after the other.

        • Chaos Rose
          Chaos Rose
          May 3, 2011 at 9:03 pm | #

          lol the two gravatars really made what you 2 just said all the funnier.

  5. Alex
    Alex
    May 3, 2011 at 12:05 am | #

    Need a Joyce Drago character, “I will break you”.

    Seriously though, a rare empathetic moment from Sarah?

    • Rikushadow5
      Rikushadow5
      May 3, 2011 at 3:23 am | #

      She will knock you all down. With her faaaaaaaaaaaaaace.

      • Jillian
        Jillian
        May 3, 2011 at 3:25 am | #

        For a nickel.

        • Janos
          Janos
          May 3, 2011 at 8:57 am | #

          With her penis

  6. General Tekno
    General Tekno
    May 3, 2011 at 12:08 am | #

    May Joyce bend, but not break.

    • Digidestined of Trust (Tim)
      Digidestined of Trust (Tim)
      May 3, 2011 at 12:11 am | #

      Agreed and I agree totally with Joyce, but also agreed with Sarah, that is if you let it. I have bent many times, but haven’t broken.

    • Horerczy
      Horerczy
      May 3, 2011 at 12:48 am | #

      Yes bend. And take other positions that are good on a bed… or a table… depends on preferences really.

    • Black Drazon
      Black Drazon
      May 3, 2011 at 1:01 am | #

      I immediately got to thinking of Sarah’s reaction to Joyce when she didn’t break in It’s Walky!. They’re not the same continuities, but to me that makes this hopeful in its own way.

    • Plasma Mongoose
      Plasma Mongoose
      May 3, 2011 at 1:01 am | #

      That’s very Zen but can Joyce follow such an Eastern Philosophy?

    • Narbodi
      Narbodi
      May 3, 2011 at 5:14 pm | #

      That which does not bend with adversity can only be broken by it.

    • Jenny Creed
      Jenny Creed
      June 3, 2013 at 12:18 pm | #

      Breaking isn’t so scary. It just means you get to put yourself together again and in the process change.

  7. Tekkactus
    Tekkactus
    May 3, 2011 at 12:11 am | #

    Yep, Sarah continues to be a stuck-up know-it-all.

    • Doom Shepherd
      Doom Shepherd
      May 3, 2011 at 12:14 am | #

      Except that she’s right.

      • Inara
        Inara
        May 3, 2011 at 12:16 am | #

        that’s the worst kind – the ones who are completely right.

      • ShadeTail
        ShadeTail
        May 3, 2011 at 10:38 am | #

        No she isn’t. We feel the way we choose to feel. The world can only break you if you let it.

    • taekwondogirl
      taekwondogirl
      May 3, 2011 at 12:52 am | #

      There’s a difference between a know-it-all and a cynic. Using my mad empathy skills, I can tell that something’s hurt Sarah pretty deeply in her past that affects the way she views the world.

      😮

      • DarkVeghetta
        DarkVeghetta
        June 19, 2015 at 10:32 pm | #

        Last panel can be substituted with ‘like it did me’ and it’d have the same content.

  8. Qaxis
    Qaxis
    May 3, 2011 at 12:14 am | #

    Joyce is gonna break the world.

    • Pat
      Pat
      May 3, 2011 at 1:28 pm | #

      In a good way?

      • Matt of Steel
        Matt of Steel
        May 4, 2011 at 1:01 pm | #

        With her penis

  9. alicemacher
    alicemacher
    May 3, 2011 at 12:15 am | #

    Wow. Sarah has a heart. A jaded one, but a heart nonetheless.

    • calendarman27
      calendarman27
      May 3, 2011 at 12:16 am | #

      jade is a pretty stone, its a better heart making material than this frigid black onyx that mine is made of

      • Ridureyu
        Ridureyu
        May 3, 2011 at 12:31 am | #

        I don’t have a heart. I traded it for some airline peanuts.

        • lord of dance
          lord of dance
          May 3, 2011 at 12:36 am | #

          i lost mine in a lab accident while trying to give myself super powers

          • Ridureyu
            Ridureyu
            May 3, 2011 at 12:43 am | #

            At least the peanuts tasted good.

          • Ash
            Ash
            May 3, 2011 at 1:04 am | #

            Did the experiment work?

            • lord of dance
              lord of dance
              May 3, 2011 at 1:24 am | #

              *sigh* i don’t wanna talk about it

            • Sailor Arashi
              Sailor Arashi
              May 3, 2011 at 4:43 am | #

              How do you think he became ‘lord of dance’?

          • Pat
            Pat
            May 3, 2011 at 1:29 pm | #

            Is it really an accident if you were trying to do it?

        • Rognik
          Rognik
          May 3, 2011 at 11:51 pm | #

          I had my heart removed and locked up in a chest. Now I’m immortal, unless someone tries to open it. Thankfully, even I have forgotten where that thing is.

  10. zuche
    zuche
    May 3, 2011 at 12:17 am | #

    Every caterpillar breaks, if it lives long enough.

  11. Ridureyu
    Ridureyu
    May 3, 2011 at 12:30 am | #

    They’re both right…

    …And that’s why this comic is sad.

  12. gangler
    gangler
    May 3, 2011 at 12:38 am | #

    God if I can’t relate to Sarah right now.

    • DarkVeghetta
      DarkVeghetta
      June 19, 2015 at 10:33 pm | #

      Good, I can’t relate to Sarah right now.

  13. DaniellePhantom
    DaniellePhantom
    May 3, 2011 at 12:40 am | #

    i sense a really heavy mood of foreboding around here somewhere..

  14. NF
    NF
    May 3, 2011 at 12:40 am | #

    Apparently it is depressing comic week at DoA.

  15. knowwonattawl
    knowwonattawl
    May 3, 2011 at 12:43 am | #

    There’s a part of me that can’t help but read this as “I like you Joyce. That’s why I’ll kill you last…”

    • gangler
      gangler
      May 3, 2011 at 12:49 am | #

      That’s because it’s quite clearly the implied subtext.

    • Ridureyu
      Ridureyu
      May 3, 2011 at 1:00 am | #

      “I lied.”

      • NF
        NF
        May 3, 2011 at 8:38 am | #

        +1

    • Batman
      Batman
      November 25, 2015 at 8:15 pm | #

      Commando= greatest movie ever

  16. IronLupis
    IronLupis
    May 3, 2011 at 12:44 am | #

    World only breaks you if you let it. Some people are strong enough, most are just weak enough to fail.

    • Plasma Mongoose
      Plasma Mongoose
      May 3, 2011 at 1:08 am | #

      A sculpture is made by ‘breaking’ off the pieces that don’t contribute to the desired form.

      • DarkVeghetta
        DarkVeghetta
        June 19, 2015 at 10:40 pm | #

        Apt, but it wasn’t intentional that Milo’s Venus stopped having arms.

  17. shoeboxjeddy
    shoeboxjeddy
    May 3, 2011 at 12:49 am | #

    Isn’t it supposed to be raining in this strip? Somebody could have waved a match near the smoke detector or something…

  18. Dahlia
    Dahlia
    May 3, 2011 at 12:50 am | #

    v.v I know how they both feel….

    >: Y If Billie so much as looks wrong at Joyce again I’ll–!

    I’ll–!

    I’ll do something really mean and nasty to her!

  19. Katana
    Katana
    May 3, 2011 at 12:55 am | #

    What does it say if I’m currently in a horrible state of loneliness and depression, and I agree with Joyce 100 times more than Sarah?

    • Ash
      Ash
      May 3, 2011 at 1:05 am | #

      That you still have a desire for hope in the future to light up your life despite being down in the dumps now.

      You’re down, but not out. So to speak.

    • Umer
      Umer
      May 3, 2011 at 1:22 am | #

      I would say that you are better person than most of the world simply for holding that hope. Keep that light shining Katana, people need that.

      • Umer
        Umer
        May 3, 2011 at 1:22 am | #

        And I love how my avatar is Sarah 😀

    • taekwondogirl
      taekwondogirl
      May 3, 2011 at 2:55 am | #

      Nothing, really. Sarah, even though she’s a written character, potentially has a completely different reason for her outlook than one you may have. Your personal experiences, despite your current feelings, lead you to feel one way as opposed to the other.

  20. Plasma Mongoose
    Plasma Mongoose
    May 3, 2011 at 1:14 am | #

    Joyce = OptiMISS Prime
    Sarah = A Depressacon

    Sorry, couldn’t resist such a bad set of puns.

    • Jackson
      Jackson
      May 3, 2011 at 7:06 am | #

      Well, someone’s gotta provide some sort of funny. Strip’s got a real downer of a punchline.

  21. Lloyfid
    Lloyfid
    May 3, 2011 at 1:31 am | #

    I am simultaneously charmed and disturbed that Joyce has said something that could easily be lifted as dialogue for The Doctor. Seriously, all that’s missing is “I wear a yellow sundress now, yellow sundresses are cool”.

    • Plasma Mongoose
      Plasma Mongoose
      May 3, 2011 at 4:50 am | #

      Just as long as she doesn’t offering jellybabies or wearing celery as a corsage.

      • Lloyfid
        Lloyfid
        May 3, 2011 at 4:46 pm | #

        Agreed, celery is for Summers and Joyce is so totally a Spring.

  22. Ancestral Hamster
    Ancestral Hamster
    May 3, 2011 at 1:40 am | #

    Wow. Both are right, but it’s a rare person who can keep that optimism in the midst of life’s travails.

    • taekwondogirl
      taekwondogirl
      May 3, 2011 at 2:57 am | #

      It’s pretty easy when you’ve been as sheltered as Joyce! I imagine in the future we’ll see how much she has to struggle to keep it based off what happens to her.

      You should check out Willis’ previous strips because –*spoilers*

      • The E-man
        The E-man
        May 3, 2011 at 10:17 pm | #

        It’s possible to keep it without much struggle! I was sheltered growing up, but even though I was introduced to the real world at my boarding high school, I am still positive and cheery!

      • Ancestral Hamster
        Ancestral Hamster
        May 3, 2011 at 11:07 pm | #

        I get the drift; I’ve read Roomies and It’s Walky already.

        On a side note, that’s why I hated Billie from her first appearance in DoA, and was happy to see Ruth. (Not liking Ruth in this current incarnation though.)

        • taekwondogirl
          taekwondogirl
          May 4, 2011 at 1:15 pm | #

          Yeah, it’s odd. I actually started reading DoA before going through the Roomies/It’s Walky archives. I’ve read Shortpacked! for years but never double dipped. I’m glad I finally read through them though and then I had to go back through the Shortpacked! archives too. Incrediblely weaved plots.

  23. dchorror
    dchorror
    May 3, 2011 at 1:52 am | #

    Sara makes a good point. I feel bad for wanting Joyce to be broken now.

    • gangler
      gangler
      May 3, 2011 at 3:08 am | #

      Wink wink nudge nudge saynomore saynomore.

  24. Charlie Earl Owens
    Charlie Earl Owens
    May 3, 2011 at 2:00 am | #

    And you’re a pain in the ass, Sarah. I’ll be happy when you tear down the wall you’ve thrown up and give people a chance again.

    • gangler
      gangler
      May 3, 2011 at 3:25 am | #

      I see nothing to indicate she doesn’t give people a chance. She doesn’t give all people a chance, but there’s a difference. One is a completely sensible thing one can expect from anyone with the capacity to learn from negative reinforcement. The other is a blanket statement regarding her views on people in general.

      If anything Joyce is the unusual one here. Really, give a chance to every single person? Let’s see how long she can keep that up now that she’s outside of her protective bubble. Joe clearly upset her. Billie’s gonna hurt her whether Joyce succumbs to influence or not. How many Joes and Billies does she have to meet before she stops feeling quite so charitable when an obvious womanizer comes along. How many before it occurs to her that she only does herself a disservice by trying to convert all the joes of the world, and she just genuinely has no real reason to want to hang out with the Billies? She’s got a good sixty or seventy years ahead of her. That’s a whole lot of Billies and Joes if she’s taking the time to reach her hand out to each of them.

      • G.S.Mercs
        G.S.Mercs
        May 3, 2011 at 3:38 am | #

        I can see and understand your point, but from her view, from her beliefs, even if out of all those people, she can save one person, than she succeeded. To her, the world is what you make it, and if she tries to help every single person, she makes it a slightly better place, if only in her eyes. So while yes, I’ll acknowledge, it is hard to give a chance to every single person, the important part is, as Joyce stated, to try.

        • gangler
          gangler
          May 3, 2011 at 11:35 am | #

          True. True. Joyce is perfectly cool. Nothing wrong with what she does, and some people really do pull it off. I just object to the notion that Sarah is in the wrong simply for having learned to recognize those who are not worth her time. I see no real reason she should feel obligated to follow the Joyce school of thought here and start chumming with the whores and the lepers.

          Though admittedly Joyce is a better christian than most I’ve known for trying. Certainly better than I ever was at my best. It’s a very noble endeavor.

          • Rognik
            Rognik
            May 3, 2011 at 11:57 pm | #

            Jesus was known for hanging out with the whores, lepers and other undesirables of the world…

            However, it’s not the Joes and the Billies of the world Joyce needs to fear; it’s that one person who, at least initially, seems nice, but then uses her kindness to hurt and/or take advantage of her. That’s when the true test will happen.

        • Kernanator
          Kernanator
          June 25, 2011 at 12:22 am | #

          So does that mean that Joyce will try to become a Hero of Justice like Shirou from Fate/stay night?

  25. Sporkaganza
    Sporkaganza
    May 3, 2011 at 2:57 am | #

    So, I guess this is a dramatic strip.

    …Willis has not really gotten better at writing non-narmy dramatic dialogue, at all.

    …Oh well.

  26. Rikushadow5
    Rikushadow5
    May 3, 2011 at 3:31 am | #

    And now the banner makes total sense. This comic is secretly about Joyce, Sarah, and Billie. All those other characters? Fuck ’em, they’re subplot.

    In the next episode of DoA: Joyce will discover that ETHAN MAY OR MAY NOT BE HOMOSEXUAL, Sarah will become slightly less of a bongo, and Billie will have developed some horrible disease where her body has slowly been adapting to an absurd Blood Alcohol Content, and can no longer survive without critical amounts of liquor.

    Walky will continue to make himself look like an idiot to Dorothy, and Sal will retain her badassery no matter what.

    • Ancestral Hamster
      Ancestral Hamster
      May 3, 2011 at 11:22 pm | #

      RE: “Billie will have developed some horrible disease where her body has slowly been adapting to an absurd Blood Alcohol Content, and can no longer survive without critical amounts of liquor.”

      This is DoA, not Funky Winterbean.

  27. Menamebephil
    Menamebephil
    May 3, 2011 at 4:09 am | #

    I have never met a single person in the whole world that actually talks like this.

    No, wait, there was one guy. We’re pretty sure he thought his life was an action movie.

    • calendarman27
      calendarman27
      May 3, 2011 at 9:11 am | #

      my life is a romantic comedy, but it doesn’t star me….

      • Menamebephil
        Menamebephil
        May 3, 2011 at 12:59 pm | #

        Just be thankful it’s not a murder mystery.

        I’m the guy with the fruit cart in the way of the climactic car chase.

    • Caelan
      Caelan
      May 3, 2011 at 10:34 am | #

      On multiple occasions, I’ve said stuff almost exactly like Joyce’s little speech in this strip. Which is scary, because I have nothing else in common with her.

      • Menamebephil
        Menamebephil
        May 3, 2011 at 3:20 pm | #

        I meant Sarah. In real life, being melodramatic and ominous just makes you sound like a dick. A pretentious dick, at that.

  28. MuleyBob
    MuleyBob
    May 3, 2011 at 7:00 am | #

    My life is a roller coaster. But it is an old and ricketty one. However since there really aren’t any dangerous curves or anything they still keep it open.

  29. -Sentinel-
    -Sentinel-
    May 3, 2011 at 7:55 am | #

    Hi, just found this.

    Oh, this is great. After all the trouble I’ve gone through to overcome the unhealthy Sal addiction I developed during It’s Walky!, I stumble upon David Willis’ latest webcomic, like an ex-junkie fresh out of rehab who finds a stash of heroin. Plus, now Sal rides a freaking motorcycle.

    Damn you, Willis, DAMN YOU. I’ll never forgive you this.

    *injects himself some Sal*

    Guuuuuh… you’re forgiven.

    • Animal
      Animal
      May 3, 2011 at 12:11 pm | #

      Amigo, there ain’t enough Sal in this town for two of us.

  30. creativerealms
    creativerealms
    May 3, 2011 at 8:19 am | #

    It seems like in this universe Sarah might end up becoming like a protective older sister character for this Joyce.

  31. daughterofthestars
    daughterofthestars
    May 3, 2011 at 9:25 am | #

    I love how everyone was so critical of Joyce up until this point, and now that she’s said something that makes sense for her character and shows she’s not a total religious nutcase, they aren’t really talking about it that much.

    I was B’awing by the second panel and tearing up by the third. These lines show that Joyce is more mature than I was when I started college, that’s for sure.

    • Jackson
      Jackson
      May 3, 2011 at 10:50 am | #

      I’d agree that what Joyce is saying here makes sense for her character, but not for the reasons you’ve described. To me, it’s a gracious sentiment (and Joyce is certainly gracious, when she’s not hiring a chaperone to punch her date if he so much as glances at other girls). Moreover, it reinforces to me that Joyce sees the world through a melodramatic lens, where the smallest thing can be invested with huge moral and emotional significance. I don’t think that’s necessarily a mark of maturity, but then neither is world-weary jadedness. And this sort of earnest worldview is commensurate with the Joyce we know and love.

      What I didn’t expect was for Sarah to get in on the gravitas in the last panel. Isn’t she supposed to be the down-to-earth one?

      • Captain Obvious
        Captain Obvious
        May 3, 2011 at 8:50 pm | #

        It’s obvious enough that I’ll do this. You guys do realize this is a comic right? Most of the plot, characters, etc. have been planned a certain way from the beginning. So really we would still have to wait and see how this turns out.

    • begbert2
      begbert2
      May 3, 2011 at 10:54 am | #

      She is still a total religious nutcase. She’s just as relatively nice total religious nutcase – at least until you offend her religious sensibilities and she starts punching you in the everloving FAAAACE.

      I remain firmly of the opinion that breaking will improve her – all comedic violence and mishaps aside, that divine high horse she’s on is the cause of *all* her problems to date. Getting knocked off it may be rough, but it’ll make her better in the long run.

  32. nothri
    nothri
    May 3, 2011 at 10:02 am | #

    Dammit Willis. We were all having fun here, laughing at the jokes and bongoing about how adorably psychotic some of the characters were. Now your starting to inject SERIOUS BUSINESS into these comics moment by moment. And we’ve all been down that road….pretty soon we’ll have nerds exploding and the drinkers being hit by trucks. You’ve been a countdown to our inevitable DOOM.

    Snarking aside, good strip. All of this makes me wonder if this world ‘broke’ Sarah at some point.

    • Rikushadow5
      Rikushadow5
      May 3, 2011 at 10:28 am | #

      Cerberus Syndrome. The comic is now so dark.

  33. MM
    MM
    May 3, 2011 at 10:04 am | #

    Is it just me, or is Sarah speaking from personal experience here?

    • MM
      MM
      May 3, 2011 at 10:05 am | #

      *looks at comment above* Ah. Clearly not.

  34. Janette
    Janette
    May 3, 2011 at 10:24 am | #

    What a great comic. Sad, but true. I really feel for both Sarah and Joyce. You can sense how they both struggling to survive at college.

  35. Rachel
    Rachel
    May 3, 2011 at 10:26 am | #

    Every reason that people have been finding Joyce irritating or stupid? Completely countered by this. This is why I’ve always loved every version of Joyce.

    • ShadeTail
      ShadeTail
      May 3, 2011 at 10:46 am | #

      No, not countered in the slightest. Joyce is still the same uptight, naive, potentially-violent idiot she was before. This adds another dimension to her character, but it doesn’t cancel out the old ones.

      • begbert2
        begbert2
        May 3, 2011 at 10:58 am | #

        It’s not even a new dimension – she’s been friendly and upbeat from the start. And note that another way to read that “good” and “bad” in people she’s talking about is as “in my religion” and “not my religion” – and she’s been happy to consider everyone a possible convert from the start. You know, so that she can convert one to a husband and thus not be all alone.

        • ShadeTail
          ShadeTail
          May 3, 2011 at 1:17 pm | #

          I don’t entirely agree. It’s true that this doesn’t change her personality at all, but it does show that particular quirk in a new light. It’s not all about converting people. For example, it explains why, at the end of the “date” with Joe, she gave him a compliment because she wanted to end it on a positive note. She was trying to find the good even in a silly little jerk like him.

          That said, my reply to Rachel still stands. This adds another dimension to Joyce’s personality, but it doesn’t cancel out the other dimensions that she has been (rightly, I think) criticized for.

          • Shift
            Shift
            May 3, 2011 at 7:55 pm | #

            Yeah, she gave him a compliment. But frankly, to me it came off as her not being nice, but trying make herself feel better. She spent the entire date trying to convert him, and being inconsiderate regarding his family life and then assaulted him because he behaved like a teenage boy with natural hormones that unlike her, he’s never been told were evil.

            When the date ended because she attacked Joe with Mike, she felt guilty. She had given up on trying to convert him, because she felt he wasn’t worth it, since obviously he wasn’t going to be her husband. Had the date gone well, you KNOW she’d have tried to bible thump him into conversion so that way it would be a “proper” Christian marriage.

    • Shift
      Shift
      May 3, 2011 at 2:59 pm | #

      Actually, no it’s not. If anything one could argue this makes it worse. Before one could argue that Joyce grew up in such an isolated “bubble” that she didn’t know any better regarding her bible thumping and unfair judgments about people. Now she’s flat out told us that she knows better, but still does it.

      But I do find the idea of everyone calling her bad and evil unfrair. Joyce is none of those things. She doesn’t do this stuff to be malicious. She acts like an annoying religious bible thumper because she thinks that’s a good way to behave. It’s how she was raised and all she knows.

      But even though she’s not bad or evil, that doesn’t make her necessarily likable.

  36. OmegaDez
    OmegaDez
    May 3, 2011 at 11:00 am | #

    I don’t understand Joyce one bit. On one hand, she’s a religious conservative type, which makes her evil. On the other hand, she wants to be nice to everyone.

    The girl is definitely confused.

    • zuche
      zuche
      May 3, 2011 at 12:23 pm | #

      Eh, she’s just Walt Whitman. It’s a human thing.

    • Pat
      Pat
      May 3, 2011 at 1:42 pm | #

      She never said she was a conservative.

      And I believe it is possible to be both religious and conservative without actually being evil. If you feel the need to tell everybody about how religious and moral you are because they couldn’t possibly have figured it out otherwise, not a good sign.
      Joyce sometimes seems to fall into the latter camp, but she says it here: She knows she’s not actually very good at it but she’ll keep trying to improve.

      • gangler
        gangler
        May 3, 2011 at 2:11 pm | #

        She didn’t have to say she was conservative. When you speak out in favor of conservative ideologies people tend to fill in the blanks.

        • Doom Shepherd
          Doom Shepherd
          May 3, 2011 at 4:17 pm | #

          People are often wrong about such things. After all, there are plenty of people who have conservative ideas on some things and liberal ideas on others, and just speak about whetever topic comes up.

          • gangler
            gangler
            May 3, 2011 at 5:15 pm | #

            True. Obviously political ideologies are complex and reducing them to a simple boolean value is a gross oversimplification for the most part.

            Still. If it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, and walks like a duck, it’s probably a duck.

            • fezzam
              fezzam
              May 3, 2011 at 11:13 pm | #

              i dont know who to reply to here so ill go hyper nested comment.. conservative and liberal. dont always have to do with politics btw. conservative can and more accurately refers to “the norm,the way it is, the way things have always been.” among other things its why the political spectrum liberal-conservative tends to match young-old people tend to get set in their ways.

  37. Swissaboo
    Swissaboo
    May 3, 2011 at 1:31 pm | #

    Sarah you hypocrite, not being broken yet is the whole reason joyce irritates you!

    • gangler
      gangler
      May 3, 2011 at 2:12 pm | #

      And?

  38. Shift
    Shift
    May 3, 2011 at 2:55 pm | #

    FINALLY! Joyce is showing herself to be SOMEWHAT likable again. I still don’t much care for her, mind you. Pretty much in every strip she’s appeared aside from the early ones and the motorcycle one, she’s been rather painful to read. Bible thumping, judgmental, and even violent. But at least here she acknowledges she does that. She’s not a bad person, but she is a person who conflicted on whether its better to follow her own feelings or to solely follow the guidelines set by her faith and family.

    I just hope this side of her comes out more, and she stops being so heavy handed with the judgmental religious stuff.

    And I feel bad for Sarah, because she’s become jaded by the world already. But I still have no issue with what she said to Billie, considered we all know that Billie is going to fall hard and take anyone near her down with her.

  39. Doom Shepherd
    Doom Shepherd
    May 3, 2011 at 4:14 pm | #

    Actually, to follow up on what I posted yesterday (hey, I gotta sleep sometime), they’re both right, in their own ways.

    Personally, though, I don’t think you’re finished being built unless you’ve been broken at least once.

    Some broken things can be rebuilt. Sometimes better than before.

    • taekwondogirl
      taekwondogirl
      May 3, 2011 at 4:46 pm | #

      I think that’s a good point. It’s all well and good to say that only weak people break if you’ve never faced something that world-changing yourself (you in the general sense, not directed at *you*).

      • Gambler
        Gambler
        May 3, 2011 at 9:22 pm | #

        if you want that just read it’s joyce and walky; also theres 3 things that will alwys be true no matter what …verse your in. 1.sal looks cool. 2. Mike is an ass. 3. joyce always starts out sheltered and regligious to the extreme then begins to tone it down and be more “normal”

        • taekwondogirl
          taekwondogirl
          May 3, 2011 at 10:10 pm | #

          Well, yes. But we’re talking about this universe that’s barely just getting off the ground.

          Also, Joyce was broken a couple times in It’s Walky, oddly.

  40. Jason
    Jason
    May 3, 2011 at 6:29 pm | #

    I understand where she’s coming from, but I find Sarah’s world-weariness a little off-putting when I remember she’s only a sophomore. I don’t feel she’s earned the right to use “when” rather than “if”.

    • taekwondogirl
      taekwondogirl
      May 3, 2011 at 10:11 pm | #

      I love that your name is Jason and your avatar is Tony, first of all. 😀

      Also, age doesn’t indicate experience. It’s a good basis for a guess, but honestly everyone Joyce’s age is far more experienced than she is.

      • Jason
        Jason
        May 10, 2011 at 1:26 am | #

        Re name and avatar…I chose neither. 🙂

    • Ancestral Hamster
      Ancestral Hamster
      May 3, 2011 at 11:34 pm | #

      “Sophomore” is Greek for “wise fool”. Most sophomores fit that quite well. Experienced to think they know it all, but not experienced enough to see the gaps in their knowledge.

    • Rognik
      Rognik
      May 3, 2011 at 11:46 pm | #

      Honestly, I don’t think it takes that much more experience to be that much wiser than Joyce. I think most people’s spirits broke back in high school, if not sooner. With Joyce so sheltered, Sarah’s statement is accurate enough.

  41. Anime fan
    Anime fan
    May 3, 2011 at 6:52 pm | #

    -sigh- Sarah is a real pessimist in this one.

  42. Anime fan
    Anime fan
    May 3, 2011 at 6:54 pm | #

    So is Joe wearing the S.E.M.M.E. shirt a joke for the nutcases like me who read the series in four days?

  43. Captain Obvious
    Captain Obvious
    May 3, 2011 at 8:51 pm | #

    Message from earlier meant for another place

  44. Gambler
    Gambler
    May 3, 2011 at 9:10 pm | #

    well since joyce was never exposed to the trama that her walkyverse self had to go through its possible that this joyce could either be broken or be solid like a cliff made of onyx.

  45. Silver C.
    Silver C.
    May 3, 2011 at 9:38 pm | #

    Both Joyce and Sarah are extreme examples.

    Joyce is so uber-optimistic to the point of being naive, and Sarah’s so cynical with life that she can’t enjoy life as it is and that both makes me sad.

    I like to think that to live well, one has to achieve a balance in having a realistic outlook in life and having a more positive attitude.

    Let’s face it, you can’t change how the world works, but you can change how you look at the world and therefore how you live in it.

  46. scrapbooking
    scrapbooking
    May 4, 2011 at 9:54 am | #

    break you with its ..

    • Bill M.
      Bill M.
      May 4, 2011 at 12:49 pm | #

      That would have to be FAAAAAAAAAAACE, because it’s not Joe, and Joe would break her with his penis.

    • taekwondogirl
      taekwondogirl
      May 4, 2011 at 6:20 pm | #

      I read that as “break you with tits ..” initially.

  47. Bean
    Bean
    May 5, 2011 at 1:22 am | #

    I…I really can’t reconcile this Joyce with the one that belted Joe. I won’t say it’s out of character yet-we haven’t seen enough of her to pass that judgement, but this doesn’t quite jive with the Hiring of Mike For Face Punches and Freaking out over discovering the male libido.

    I guess I’m looking forward to seeing this all make more sense?

    • taekwondogirl
      taekwondogirl
      May 5, 2011 at 9:59 pm | #

      I don’t see why not? People are inherently hypocritical. Also, because she was expecting the good in people, she trusted 1) that Joe wouldn’t do anything deserving of getting punched in the face for and 2) that Mike wouldn’t actually do it. At least initially, her thought process was “speak quietly and carry a big stick”. Intimidation more than anything.

      As far as her actually freaking out about the male libido, anyone who’s sheltered will do that. The punching, not so much but at that point it was kind of intended as a cross between plot and humor. Violence is going to be exaggerated in comic strips because it can.

  48. Cain
    Cain
    May 8, 2011 at 12:52 am | #

    And I will (cue hate mail) be happy when she is broken. What she is doing IS walling herself, only of a different sort. She is delluding herself into thinking that the world is much, MUCH nicer than it really is.

    Oh, don’t get me wrong, I think that the majority of people, while they do tend to look out for number 1, are decent people. But I also recognize that the world is a dark and cruel place as well.

    She seems to be of the opinion (or so it seems) that the world is a cute and happy place, and that everyone has an angel inside them.

    Bad news for you missy. We’re human. Which means we’re flawed. It also means that given the correct (not the right or wrong, but correct) circumstances, any of us can become something dark and twisted. Some people require a tiny push, while others take many.

    Trust me missy. Your going to wake up one day, and realize that the world is a lot grayer than it was the previous day.

  49. CookieGirl
    CookieGirl
    June 23, 2011 at 6:32 pm | #

    Cant we just pretend it wont?

  50. Stranger
    Stranger
    March 22, 2013 at 12:12 am | #

    I look forward to the world breaking her. Like a juicy orange.

    But I never was much for sheltered upbringing as an excuse for bigotry, no matter how innocent it may seem

  51. B.D
    B.D
    March 19, 2015 at 4:01 pm | #

    It’s kinda amazing just how much Willis was laying out and foreshadowing _in full view_.

    • DarkVeghetta
      DarkVeghetta
      November 25, 2015 at 4:49 pm | #

      Wait till you get to where I’m coming from. Ho boy.

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UNIT DLX @unitdlx.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
Terrible news! The back of box render for the Classified Series Legacy Firefighter seems to imply Shipwreck's house caught on fire.
The back of box render for the GI Joe Classified Series Legacy Collection Firefighter. A firefighter in the foreground poses dramatically with the jaws of life. Another firefighter in the background sprays a wrecked car with foam. A third firefighter even further back escorts a man away from a burning house.
A firefighter escorting a man wrapped in a fire blanket away from a burning house. The man bears a strong resemblance to the GI Joe Classified Shipwreck figyre.
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
"explore the unknown"? mary, it's new york city, this is at least your third time here, and the last time you were here you got mad at your taxi driver for using a gps
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
one of the kids yelled at the other to "drink my BUTT" and i've just picked up a new invective
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