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by David M Willis on July 3, 2017 at 12:01 am
  • 04 - The 'Do' List
└ Tags: dorothy, jason, walky

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  1. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    July 3, 2017 at 12:01 am | #

    WITH REAL MATHS ACTION

    • thebombzen
      thebombzen
      July 3, 2017 at 2:49 am | #

      Have you heard of 0x0.st? Could be useful for your anachronistic purposes

    • truk2
      truk2
      July 3, 2017 at 7:32 pm | #

      With real maths action
      https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/existence_proof.png

    • truk2
      truk2
      July 3, 2017 at 7:34 pm | #

      With IMAGINARY Math action
      https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/complex_conjugate.png

  2. miados
    miados
    July 3, 2017 at 12:01 am | #

    tutoring can be stressful on both sides

    • Reltzik
      Reltzik
      July 3, 2017 at 12:29 am | #

      I’ve hardly ever found it to be that way, and it was my primary income for a while.

      ….

      …. then again, Jason just don’t know how to tutor.

      • miados
        miados
        July 3, 2017 at 12:34 am | #

        it isn’t always stressful but it certainly can be. Especially when the one being tutored doesn’t want to be and it is being forced on them. or if the person is forced to tutor because of academic requirements perhaps.

        • Reltzik
          Reltzik
          July 3, 2017 at 1:26 am | #

          The big problem is that Jason doesn’t know how to tutor. He thinks it’s just a matter of saying things how he understands them. He doesn’t really do diagnosis, or trying to grasp someone else’s current state of understanding, or trying different learning styles, or explaining something five different ways until it finally clicks.

          • kingleon
            kingleon
            July 3, 2017 at 1:57 am | #

            In all fairness to Jason, it isn’t really tutoring (its grad student TAing, which means one usually doesn’t have much time to focus on individual students, especially since their main time sink is still their thesis), and most schools put very little time into training grad students anything at all about pedagogy (and then those same individuals go on to become faculty…).

            Frankly, from my perspective of what sort of time and effort the typical grad student TA will put into any given large-lecture STEM class, Jason’s attempts to personally follow-up with students easily puts him in the top percentile of actually caring. That said, that Jason has been involved with Walky’s sister, also a student, makes things entirely problematic.

            • BBCC
              BBCC
              July 3, 2017 at 2:15 am | #

              Part of his job description is office hours to talk with students. The fact he’s doing his job isn’t something I’d consider particularly praise worthy, tbh. The only time he actually did something good is when he offered Walky help when he first started falling behind. Other than that, he’s been pretty consistently shit. And sure, he’s not trained to teach, probably, but if he actually gives a rats ass about being a good teacher (like he says he does) then he needs to stop whining and do something to improve. That or be content with being shit and stop professing he cares about being a good teacher.

              • Emperor Norton II
                Emperor Norton II
                July 3, 2017 at 3:07 am | #

                He seems to give a rat’s ass about people thinking he’s a good teacher more than he gives a rat’s ass about actually being a good teacher.

                • BBCC
                  BBCC
                  July 3, 2017 at 3:13 am | #

                  Agreed.

                • Reltzik
                  Reltzik
                  July 3, 2017 at 3:36 am | #

                  My read on him is that he does want to be a good teacher. It was in his head, part of his self-image, that he was a good teacher… or at least had that in his skillset, even if he’d never used it. (Hint: If you believe you’re good at something you’ve never done, you’re most likely wrong.)

                  He’s started to realize that this self-image was false, but he wants to be true. Right now he’s stuck in a mode where he thinks good intentions plus tryhard is the fix. It’s… not going well.

                  But none of that means he doesn’t care about being a good teacher. And it’s not really fair to blame him for that, because… as kingleon said? No one gave him significant training. The system cares more about making grad students into researchers rather than into making them into good teachers. And by “more”, I mean “only”.

                  Jason’s story is that of a man out of his depths who suddenly and belatedly realizes that the well-being of others rests on his own incapable shoulders. And of course he screws it up. No one’s taught him how to do anything else.

                  (But screwing Sal up, that’s on him.)

                • BBCC
                  BBCC
                  July 3, 2017 at 11:02 pm | #

                  I do believe he cares about being a good teacher, but I also believe that since he’s not good at it, that means he needs to put in an effort to learn to be better. I get that time and money are tight but if he wants to be a good teacher, he’s got to either learn to do that (hell, I’d take just googling ‘tutoring tips’ – at least then he’d be TRYING even if it didn’t help) or accept that’s he’s a sucky teacher and doesn’t have the time/money/energy to put into being better and so will remain so.

              • ischemgeek
                ischemgeek
                July 3, 2017 at 6:50 am | #

                IME as an ex-grad student who TA’d a lot: Odds are very good that by doing the minimum job description he’s putting in more time than he gets paid for. Because university fuck over grad students at every opportunity. Grad students are even cheaper than sessional instructors, and unlike sessional instructors, the grad student can’t move to a different uni or go somewhere with better pay without tanking their career, so the schools love putting grad students in charge of most of the responsibility for putting on a course (but you get no authority to go with the responsibility – you’re the one designing grading rubrics and report forms and marking and doing most of the teaching, buuut if the sessional instructor who comes in three hours a week decides you were too haaard on the student who refuses to wear PPE and spends the entire lab “jokingly” threatening to splash other students with acid, the well-deserved F the student got from being punted from your lab over safety will get overturned.

                Furthermore, many unis limit how many hours grad students can work anywhere such that there’s no possible way you can keep your financial head above water (and then they offer loans and what have you for “emergencies” which they charge outrageous interest on – it’s a full on company store bullshit deal), so in order to have enough to eat and a safe place to sleep you’re usually doing something else under the table and hoping the uni doesn’t find out. All in all when I was a grad student I was working 7 AM to 9 PM, six days a week and four to eight hours the remaining day of the week.

                My point here is part of Jason’s unarguable incompetence might be just sheer exhaustion if his family isn’t rich enough to support him.

                • Jon Rich
                  Jon Rich
                  July 3, 2017 at 2:48 pm | #

                  The sex is still on him, though. Which brings to mind the question—after having slept with her, which harms his integrity less—grading her as he would have otherwise, and upholding (the remaining shreds of) his professional ethics, but at the cost of dishonoring the implicit agreement he made with Sal when he slept with her, or, on the other hand, sacrificing whatever professional ethics he might have left, but honoring the agreement with Sal?

                • Dr. T
                  Dr. T
                  July 3, 2017 at 4:08 pm | #

                  It depends on the school, the department, and the class in question. I was a grad student at IU, so I have some first hand knowledge of how things work at IU for grad students. Fortunately for me, I was in the Microbiology program teaching various biology courses, which meant I got paid better than the TAs for math or the humanities. That’s not to say that was remotely fair since the university got paid the same for each credit hour of language arts than they did for microbiology lab, so the fact that I got paid noticeably more than them for the same amount of work was kind of bullshit for them.

                  Long story made short, I imagine that Jason is probably either pretty stressed about his finances or stressed from working a side job like some other grad students I knew. If he is working a side job, he has to be hush-hush about it lest the school find out (I only worked side jobs in between semester sessions to avoid this issue).

                  Mind you, this speculation requires us to assume his family isn’t rich and that he actually has money problems. There’s no guarantee in that.

                • BBCC
                  BBCC
                  July 3, 2017 at 11:00 pm | #

                  That definitely sucks, and I can definitely understand not wanting to bother in that case, but I’m still not overly impressed by doing the bare minimum.

  3. Doctor_Who
    Doctor_Who
    July 3, 2017 at 12:02 am | #

    Their death metal band, on the other hand, is coming along great!

    • Van Jealous
      Van Jealous
      July 3, 2017 at 12:04 am | #

      Yeah…”Jason And The ArgueNauts”!

      • Individual Lies
        Individual Lies
        July 3, 2017 at 12:29 am | #

        I very nearly spit tea all over my screen.
        Thanks for that.

      • Valerie
        Valerie
        July 3, 2017 at 12:41 am | #

        That is goddamn beautiful. You deserve a cookie. Go buy yourself a cookie.

      • VanVelding
        VanVelding
        July 3, 2017 at 12:47 am | #

        Amazing.

      • ellernock
        ellernock
        July 3, 2017 at 1:26 am | #

        oh my god i keep grinning despite myself, damn you van jealous

      • Anowan
        Anowan
        July 3, 2017 at 3:08 am | #

        This is wonderful. Put some rose petals on your bed tonight. You deserve it.

      • Eldritch Gentleman
        Eldritch Gentleman
        July 3, 2017 at 3:55 am | #

        Where is the upvote button when you need one. This is sweet XD

      • Rukduk
        Rukduk
        July 3, 2017 at 4:01 am | #

        I do believe that for the next thirty minutes, you own the Internet. Because that joke definitely paid for a half hour of universal internet control.

      • NelC
        NelC
        July 3, 2017 at 4:04 am | #

        Where’s the “Like” button? Why is there no “Like” button?

      • Tacos
        Tacos
        July 3, 2017 at 5:22 am | #

        Nice.

      • BP
        BP
        July 3, 2017 at 4:03 pm | #

        MARRY ME

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      July 3, 2017 at 1:28 am | #

      “FUCK SCHOOL!!!!!”
      “WITHIN REASON, AND NOT INTENDING DISRUPTION TO ESTABLISHED CURRICULUM”
      “YEAH, AND UNLESS YOUR MUM FINDS OUT.”
      *Electric guitar solo*

  4. butts
    butts
    July 3, 2017 at 12:02 am | #

    and then they start kamehameha’ing each other, it’s brutal

    • TamiDOA
      TamiDOA
      July 3, 2017 at 12:26 am | #

      I’m expecting more of the comical dog-paddling slap fight from these two.

  5. Cattleprod
    Cattleprod
    July 3, 2017 at 12:03 am | #

    So the real reason for the time skip was so we wouldn’t have to sit through several weeks of Walky and Jason powering up?

  6. C.T Phipps
    C.T Phipps
    July 3, 2017 at 12:03 am | #

    Walky, stop cheating on Dorothy! We know you had hate-sex with Bowtie! It’s a family failing.

  7. Rocketboy1313
    Rocketboy1313
    July 3, 2017 at 12:03 am | #

    So the tutoring is gonna be on slipshine then?
    I think I will make this joke about everything that happens off panel at this point.

  8. Yumi
    Yumi
    July 3, 2017 at 12:03 am | #

    I’d suggest that Walky try asking Danny, but that might be a bit…uncomfortable for them.

    But, hey, he’s New Danny now, so maybe it’d work out.

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      July 3, 2017 at 12:05 am | #

      New Danny will teach math skills via soulful ukulele tunes!

      • fogel
        fogel
        July 3, 2017 at 2:28 am | #

        He’s a good egg, so he’d help for sure!

        • Rukduk
          Rukduk
          July 3, 2017 at 4:08 am | #

          Honestly, he probably would/will, but he has to deal with Joe first. Then he can tutor Walky and Sal individually. He’ll probably have to be ever so slight assertive though.
          Walky: So what’s up Wonderbread?
          Danny: Alright first thing, don’t call me Wonderbread, only Sal gets to do that.
          Walky: Why, cause you think she’s hot?
          Danny: No, because she’s actually passing math.
          Walky:…Dammit I don’t have a comeback for that.
          Danny: Now that the sass is done, let’s get started.

      • Chris Phoenix
        Chris Phoenix
        July 3, 2017 at 2:34 am | #

        Hooray for new math, New Math!
        It won’t do you a bit of good to review math!
        It’s so simple, so very simple,
        That only a child can do it!

        You can’t take three from two, two is less than three, so you…

        http://www.lyricsfreak.com/t/tom+lehrer/new+math_20138395.html

        • Miri
          Miri
          July 3, 2017 at 5:22 am | #

          Well you can but you then end up with negative numbers which are a bit harder to represent as physical objects.

          William has 5 apples. The lord whose land he lives on demands 7 apples in payment. How many apples does William have? Show working.

          5 apples – 7 apples = -2 apples.

          As one cannot have a negative quantity of apples, and William cannot give more than he owns, William either has no apples and no home, if the lord evicts him for failing to pay in full, or needs to find other goods to trade in lieu/provide services worth two apples to somebody who can pay him. Alternatively, he may try to steal the additional two apples. If he is caught and it is a first offence, he is likely to have his hand chopped off. As we are given no indication that he has any other worldly goods or marketable skills, legal or otherwise, one must conclude that William has 0 apples and has been evicted. However, he probably has 2 hands, and may be able to gain employment helping somebody else with their landholding in exchange for food and shelter.

          Times were tough back then.

    • Shiro
      Shiro
      July 3, 2017 at 12:11 am | #

      This is kind of a singular situation. While Danny might have some input on how to best help Dorothy handle stress, it’d only help so much in this case.

      • Yumi
        Yumi
        July 3, 2017 at 12:16 am | #

        I…meant about the math tutoring thing. I don’t think “Dorothy advice” would be on the list of topics that would make things LESS uncomfortable.

        • Shiro
          Shiro
          July 3, 2017 at 12:33 am | #

          Oh true, I had forgotten Danny tutored Sal. That’d be much better.

          • Jon Rich
            Jon Rich
            July 3, 2017 at 2:54 pm | #

            Pretty awkward, though, since Dorothy dumped Danny and then pretty immediately began a relationship with Walky.

            I’m not in any way saying that it was wrong for her to do so, or whatever—Dorothy has the right to date anyone she pleases regardless of how it makes anyone else feel—but Danny probably resents Walky—or would be somewhat justified to do so—and Walky might feel awkward about it.

            That said, Danny seems like he’d put that aside to help someone who needs it, and Walky really, really doesn’t want to disappoint Dorothy, so it could work out.

    • CJ
      CJ
      July 3, 2017 at 3:04 am | #

      Well, he could always resort to alternative math and bully his way through 😉

  9. Somebro
    Somebro
    July 3, 2017 at 12:03 am | #

    ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA!

    MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA!

    • AGV
      AGV
      July 3, 2017 at 5:13 am | #

      Walky’s Bizarre Adventure: Maths are Unteachable

  10. MK15
    MK15
    July 3, 2017 at 12:03 am | #

    Like Willis, she would rather not talk about it right now 🙁

    • miados
      miados
      July 3, 2017 at 12:30 am | #

      Yeah you don’t always want to talk right away. My biggest darkest time when i was getting help i pretty much hid in the bedroom for the whole first day. things take time.

  11. RacingTurtle
    RacingTurtle
    July 3, 2017 at 12:04 am | #

    Hmm, this reminds me that I thought Jason might be a good candidate for “The Story of someone who quits [grad] school.”

    • s
      s
      July 3, 2017 at 2:12 am | #

      for a STEM grad student at a large research university, being a crappy TA and/or disliking teaching will have pretty much no impact on Jason’s grad school experience. as someone who did quit grad school at a similar university in the same similar field, i was the opposite (enjoyed teaching, didn’t care enough about research to finish the phd).

      • s
        s
        July 3, 2017 at 2:13 am | #

        sleeping with a student on the other hand, that could (or at least should) get him kicked out if it gets out. as much as i find jason entertaining, that’s pretty unforgivable for me.

        • BBCC
          BBCC
          July 3, 2017 at 3:33 am | #

          IU’s rules would agree with you. As would Jason and Penny, who both said if Jason got caught he’d be out on his ass (though apparently, they would cover it up if Jason were better liked).

          • Temperaryobsessor
            Temperaryobsessor
            July 3, 2017 at 8:27 am | #

            First they would need to change Sal’s math class.

      • RacingTurtle
        RacingTurtle
        July 3, 2017 at 3:02 pm | #

        Oh, I know, I just think it would be an interesting story. For one thing, Jason seems pretty disillusioned about the fact that, on the one hand, he’s bad at teaching, but on the other hand it doesn’t really matter (except to his students). I find it interesting to extrapolate that further into a “what if Jason isn’t where he should be at all” train of thought. Not just because of Jason himself, but because in a large ensemble cast of university students, it seems likely that *someone* would leave their program of study, and maybe Jason could leave more easily than one of the undergrads from a storytelling perspective.

  12. AnvilPro
    AnvilPro
    July 3, 2017 at 12:05 am | #

    I need more Jason and Walky comics in my life

  13. Gojira
    Gojira
    July 3, 2017 at 12:05 am | #

    Dorothy doesn’t know trauma! Math tutoring, that’s the real deal!

    • miados
      miados
      July 3, 2017 at 12:11 am | #

      I was good at math in school. I even went to a math bee in middle school. Although i got frustrated that my teachers in highschool could never explain why imaginary numbers matter.

      • timemonkey
        timemonkey
        July 3, 2017 at 12:25 am | #

        Remember how they used to say we had to learn because we wouldn’t have calculators all the time?

        • miados
          miados
          July 3, 2017 at 12:28 am | #

          yeah I recall that. Although most of the time i can do the typical math faster than many people i know can figure it out with their calculator. not always but still.

          • Jamie
            Jamie
            July 3, 2017 at 12:53 am | #

            FWIW, it’s important to be able to sanity check. If you plug in 18 x 18 and get back 342, you know you done goofed.

            • Needfuldoer
              Needfuldoer
              July 3, 2017 at 2:42 am | #

              Dun goofed indeed.

              (18 x 20) – 36 = 324

          • ellernock
            ellernock
            July 3, 2017 at 1:30 am | #

            yeah, i’m awful at math (i have only vague seemings of spatial reasoning and managed to get Cs on the same 3d figure geometry test three times in a row no matter how much i studied) but the only time i ever tried to use a calculator for really basic stuff is the time i took an algebra 2 test doped up on super-strong cough medicine for a chronic cough. i forgot an entire page of the test and kept trying to do things like 7 x 1 on my calculator. it was terrible and i did terribly

      • s
        s
        July 3, 2017 at 2:04 am | #

        there are lots of reasons imaginary numbers matter, it’s too bad your teachers couldn’t come up with any of them. one of the most convincing for many people, is that there are many questions that you can reasonably ask where the question and the answer are both in real numbers, but you need to use imaginary numbers somewhere during the solution. for example, some important integrals in electrical engineering and probability are computed this way.

        • A Scientist
          A Scientist
          July 3, 2017 at 2:46 am | #

          It would probably help if they weren’t called “imaginary.” They’re not imaginary; they correspond to actual things. They’re extremely useful in quantum mechanics because it makes the math of wave mechanics so much easier to do, for example.

          But calling them “imaginary” makes students who aren’t just naturally curious about math for math’s sake check out immediately. It conveys the absence of practicality, even though there’s so much practicality.

          But it’s too late now. The name exists, and no one’s going to change it.

          • Yumi
            Yumi
            July 3, 2017 at 2:59 am | #

            To be fair, the idea that these numbers were imaginary was the only thing that made me care about them. What’s reality.

          • No I Haven't Had My Coffee Yet
            No I Haven't Had My Coffee Yet
            July 3, 2017 at 7:43 am | #

            And “real” numbers are much more abstract things than their name suggests, as anyone who has had (and passed!) a real analysis course can tell you.

          • Oz
            Oz
            July 3, 2017 at 4:16 pm | #

            Well, to be fair, imaginary numbers were a thing long before quantum mechanics was even dreamed of (like centuries earlier), so at the time the naming was pretty apt.

            Also I think the main reason for imaginary numbers to be in most curriculums is that they are a pretty fine example of math being completely ridiculous and much closer to art than to engineering, but also turning out unexpectedly to be very elegant in weird ways…, I mean some guy some five hundred years ago went “hey, what we we pretended that negative numbers have square roots?” and everyone else was like “you are beng ridiculous” and he went “no seriously, just pretend for a second that what I’m saying is not complete bullshit, and suddenly we can actually solve these equations that people are literally killing each other over. Like, we alreay pretend that negative numbers make sense. Bear with me” and most people still were firmly on the “you’re ridiculous” side but a few of them were a bit “oh look, this idea actually opens a ton of new possibilities!”

            The name “imaginary” was probably derogatory from the start, as a way to tell people that those ideas were kind of absurd, and a lot of that was because people found the whole concept inelegant and useless. That was in the Renaissance, before we had Calculus and long, long before we had Set Theory, and math was very much an aesthetic art, much like painting and sculpture. But centuries later Iluminists still side-eyed imaginary numbers, and I guess they only became more formally accepted when Euler ambraced them in the 18th century, and figured out a ton of really cool applications for them, including the Euler Identity. Imaginary numbers are a really great example of how letting yourself believe for a second that a completely absurd thing makes sense can eventually allow you to learn many things that are way more beautiful than you had at first imagined. Even if it takes 300 years for those things to come up.

            So after that, imaginary numbers were taught in mathematics for roughly two centuries before quantum mechanics was invented/discovered, because they offered really elegant formulas and visualizations and techniques for analysis. I firmly believe that being imaginary is actually a plus, not a minus.

            Sorry, I get emotional and babbly abt this stuff and I know most math teachers are undertrained and have too little time to teach history of math and make things interesting, which makes me really unhappy.

    • CJ
      CJ
      July 3, 2017 at 3:09 am | #

      I’ve got a T-Shirt where
      i says to pi (sorry, no Greek keyboard)
      “Be rational”
      And pi answers “Get real”
      Only one of my friends gets it.
      I must have a bad geek ratio.

      • Yumi
        Yumi
        July 3, 2017 at 3:13 am | #

        I get it, but if I knew you in real life and saw you wearing that shirt, I would absolutely pretend I had no awareness of it whatsoever.

        • Egg
          Egg
          July 3, 2017 at 12:46 pm | #

          Why on earth? I’m not even a math person, but I *am* a pun person, so…

        • CJ
          CJ
          July 3, 2017 at 3:20 pm | #

          Why would you pretend not to get it? The first time I someone wearing something like that I couldn’t help but burst out laughing (but then, I like self-aware relationship jokes)

          • Yumi
            Yumi
            July 3, 2017 at 3:38 pm | #

            I wouldn’t pretend not to *get* it, I would pretend not to *see* it.

  14. C.T Phipps
    C.T Phipps
    July 3, 2017 at 12:06 am | #

    I’d actually be entirely okay with an affair between these two. However, some people might object to the retconning of their sexualities. However, the smoldering lust between them cannot be denied.

    • Aphrodite
      Aphrodite
      July 3, 2017 at 12:10 am | #

      The NSFW thingy isn’t Sal it’s Walky with a wig and a cigarette.

    • Shiro
      Shiro
      July 3, 2017 at 12:12 am | #

      That’d be super uncomfortable for the same reason Jason fucking Sal was super uncomfortable.

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        July 3, 2017 at 8:38 am | #

        With an extra bonus for cheating on Dorothy.

        • C.T Phipps
          C.T Phipps
          July 3, 2017 at 5:28 pm | #

          It’s why Walky looks guilty. It just sort of happened. Jason realized that Sal reminded him of Walky and that’s what his heart truly yearned for.

    • timemonkey
      timemonkey
      July 3, 2017 at 12:27 am | #

      It wouldn’t surprise me a bit if Walky was bi.

  15. Passchendaele
    Passchendaele
    July 3, 2017 at 12:06 am | #

    basically every walky-jason conversation ever. :p

  16. Mandy
    Mandy
    July 3, 2017 at 12:06 am | #

    I would actually be perfectly fine with a whole strip consisting of nothing but Walky and Jason screaming at each other.

    • Emperor Daniel
      Emperor Daniel
      July 3, 2017 at 12:12 am | #

      Reminds me of this:

      http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=995

      • Yumi
        Yumi
        July 3, 2017 at 12:17 am | #

        Ah, yes. The best page.

        • Bagge
          Bagge
          July 3, 2017 at 1:26 am | #

          A true work of art.

        • Wizard
          Wizard
          July 3, 2017 at 5:56 am | #

          It offers a fascinating glimpse into the subtle complexities of fairy culture.

          • Emperor Daniel
            Emperor Daniel
            July 3, 2017 at 8:39 am | #

            “Subtlety” is not the word I’d use!

  17. Falcon
    Falcon
    July 3, 2017 at 12:06 am | #

    Go Super Saiyan, Walky!

    • Some1
      Some1
      July 3, 2017 at 12:12 am | #

      You saw it here first folks! Questing of Age is now canon.

      • Betty Anne
        Betty Anne
        July 3, 2017 at 3:54 pm | #

        Only one universe can survive! It needs to be this one! You can do this, Walky!

        • SgtWadeyWilson
          SgtWadeyWilson
          July 3, 2017 at 8:47 pm | #

          Last time I heard “only one universe can survive” we got Darkclaw… So I guess what I’m trying to say is: Yes, please!

  18. Foxhack
    Foxhack
    July 3, 2017 at 12:07 am | #

    That’s a really weird intro panel for the next Welcome to the Fuck Zone.

  19. C.T Phipps
    C.T Phipps
    July 3, 2017 at 12:07 am | #

    Aaaaaaaa love you!
    Aaaaaaa love you too!

    🙂

    • Plasma Mongoose
      Plasma Mongoose
      July 3, 2017 at 12:11 am | #

      It’s too big…

  20. Stephen Bierce
    Stephen Bierce
    July 3, 2017 at 12:08 am | #

    Seems to me…you don’t wanna talk about it
    Seems to me…you just turn your pretty head and Walk Away!

  21. Quartz Falcon
    Quartz Falcon
    July 3, 2017 at 12:08 am | #

    I ship it.

  22. Shiro
    Shiro
    July 3, 2017 at 12:09 am | #

    …I think Walky needs therapy of his own now.

    • Aphrodite
      Aphrodite
      July 3, 2017 at 12:12 am | #

      Is there anyone in the comic who doesn’t need therapy?

      • neeks
        neeks
        July 3, 2017 at 12:13 am | #

        Sierra?

      • BBCC
        BBCC
        July 3, 2017 at 12:20 am | #

        I think the better question is who won’t reject it.

      • Queen Anthai
        Queen Anthai
        July 3, 2017 at 12:57 am | #

        Carla. Carla is perfect,

        • Shiro
          Shiro
          July 3, 2017 at 1:13 am | #

          While Carla is indeed perfect, she could also probably use therapy as trans people got a lot of shit to put up with.

      • miados
        miados
        July 3, 2017 at 1:16 am | #

        the therapist might not need therapy.

        • vlademir1
          vlademir1
          July 3, 2017 at 1:40 am | #

          Knowing the statistics for people in that profession and having known several socially, I find that near absurdly unlikely. Here’s a nice article from Psychology Today, first published 20 years ago, that highlights some of the issues in why.

          • miados
            miados
            July 3, 2017 at 12:26 pm | #

            based on whats in the comic i havent seen a reason for therapy to be needed.

  23. Kernanator
    Kernanator
    July 3, 2017 at 12:10 am | #

    I see they’re dealing with weapons of math instruction.

    • inqntrol
      inqntrol
      July 3, 2017 at 12:11 am | #

      They carefully have to calculate their next moves.

    • Plasma Mongoose
      Plasma Mongoose
      July 3, 2017 at 12:13 am | #

      Walky is so triggered-nometry.

      (not my best pun)

      • Emperor Daniel
        Emperor Daniel
        July 3, 2017 at 12:18 am | #

        I’d say that pun shouldn’t count, then.

      • Sporky
        Sporky
        July 3, 2017 at 1:00 am | #

        also it’s a “triggered” joke so it’s automatically shit

        • Shiro
          Shiro
          July 3, 2017 at 1:12 am | #

          Yep, this. It’s in especially poor taste given the current comic topic.

    • Reltzik
      Reltzik
      July 3, 2017 at 12:54 am | #

      They’re tutor-mentors locked in a room with only each other as victims.

      …. two-tormentors?

      …. anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      July 3, 2017 at 1:25 am | #

      That’s a straight line of a punk. What’s your angle?

      • Rukduk
        Rukduk
        July 3, 2017 at 2:24 am | #

        I just was someone to cosine with me.

    • Rukduk
      Rukduk
      July 3, 2017 at 2:23 am | #

      Unfortunately I can’t graph the results of these divistating equaketions.
      …
      I don’t normally do puns, so you can’t hold me accountable for that formulaic travesty.

    • Cephalo the Pod
      Cephalo the Pod
      July 3, 2017 at 11:27 am | #

      I can’t blame Walky for his frustration, Jason’s manner of teaching is utterly derivative.

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        July 3, 2017 at 11:38 am | #

        I think that’s a bit hyperbolic.

        Frustration does seem, well integrated into his style though.

  24. Larkle
    Larkle
    July 3, 2017 at 12:11 am | #

    And that’s why it’s above Walky’s paygrade.

    • Fart Captor
      Fart Captor
      July 3, 2017 at 12:20 am | #

      I’m pretty sure that even a much more mature version of Walky would not be able to compete with a professional therapist.

      Therapy isn’t just for people whose boyfriends are manchildren

      • Carms
        Carms
        July 3, 2017 at 12:22 am | #

        Tho it is definitely for people whose boyfriends are manchildren

  25. ESM
    ESM
    July 3, 2017 at 12:12 am | #

    I see Walky spend some time in the Hyperbolic Math Chamber

    • Cephalo the Pod
      Cephalo the Pod
      July 3, 2017 at 11:24 am | #

      But no time spent on hyperbolic functions, oddly enough.

  26. OnyxIdol
    OnyxIdol
    July 3, 2017 at 12:13 am | #

    “So do you know Dragon Ball Z? Like that, but my hair turns gray instead of blonde.”

    • Tomas
      Tomas
      July 3, 2017 at 12:50 am | #

      Somebody make up an “over 9000” joke. I’m too sleepy.

      • vlademir1
        vlademir1
        July 3, 2017 at 1:42 am | #

        There are over 8000 reasons I refuse to do so…

        • Rukduk
          Rukduk
          July 3, 2017 at 2:27 am | #

          Hah. Silly fools. Broly was born with 20,000 reasons. (I say this as someone who thinks Broly’s character was wasted potential and really hope Kale is cool)

          • Temperaryobsessor
            Temperaryobsessor
            July 3, 2017 at 9:11 am | #

            Chances are he does but he was taught expressing those reasons just gets you yelled at.

      • Deanatay
        Deanatay
        July 3, 2017 at 10:27 am | #

        I got over 99,000 problems

        But a Saiyan ain’t one

  27. Kater
    Kater
    July 3, 2017 at 12:15 am | #

    We’re gonna have to pay to see that jerk getting what came to him, aren’t we?

    • Whirlwitch
      Whirlwitch
      July 3, 2017 at 1:13 am | #

      I don’t want to see it. We can skip right to the bit where we know he’s out of commission, whichever way that is.

    • Portland
      Portland
      July 3, 2017 at 11:46 am | #

      Slipshine has taken a weird turn…

  28. Keulan
    Keulan
    July 3, 2017 at 12:18 am | #

    From what I’ve seen of Jason’s tutoring so far, it sounds like Jason is a terrible tutor. Walky should probably find someone else to tutor him in math.

  29. BBCC
    BBCC
    July 3, 2017 at 12:21 am | #

    Walky, go talk to your big sister. She can hook you up with a way better tutor than this dickhole.

    • Puckish Rogue
      Puckish Rogue
      July 3, 2017 at 12:24 am | #

      I foresee no possible problems in getting tutored by your girlfriends ex-boyfriend

      • Shiro
        Shiro
        July 3, 2017 at 12:26 am | #

        Not if everyone acts like mature adults who recognize that most relationships eventually end and that’s okay.

        • Puckish Rogue
          Puckish Rogue
          July 3, 2017 at 12:28 am | #

          Except that neither of them are adults

          • Shiro
            Shiro
            July 3, 2017 at 12:30 am | #

            They’re over 18 and in college, at what point do you feel they become adults?

            • Yumi
              Yumi
              July 3, 2017 at 12:52 am | #

              I don’t know, but they’re not there yet.

            • Jamie
              Jamie
              July 3, 2017 at 1:04 am | #

              Physical maturity: the only maturity that actually matters by law!

              • Yumi
                Yumi
                July 3, 2017 at 1:08 am | #

                You know, whenever I see this gravatar, I can’t see it as just a head connected to a neck. I always see it as if the person’s chin had just slowly, gradually melted from their face, elongating itself before it finally breaks off and plops its way to freedom.

                • Jess
                  Jess
                  July 3, 2017 at 1:11 am | #

                  Oh. Oh dear.

                • Yumi
                  Yumi
                  July 3, 2017 at 3:09 am | #

                  It’s haunted me for years.

                • BigDogLittleCat
                  BigDogLittleCat
                  July 3, 2017 at 10:09 pm | #

                  Who is this freaky gravatar and why did I get stuck with it?

                • Lingo
                  Lingo
                  July 4, 2017 at 12:03 am | #

                  His name is Arnold and he’s been in like two strips … several more in Shortpacked!

              • Shiro
                Shiro
                July 3, 2017 at 1:09 am | #

                I do agree that 18 in college is too young to be considered 100% finished adult, and they do need some looking after, but I do think they’re old enough to be expected to navigate interpersonal relationships as adults-in-training, with expectations as such.

                • vlademir1
                  vlademir1
                  July 3, 2017 at 1:49 am | #

                  I used to believe that once too… At this point, just a couple years shy of 40, I’ve learned to let it go and just never expect anyone of any age to act with any kind of emotional maturity when relationships are involved even when, on the rare occasion, someone pleasantly surprises me and does so.

        • Temperaryobsessor
          Temperaryobsessor
          July 3, 2017 at 1:02 am | #

          I’m not sure if either of them are mature enough for that yet. Definitely not at the beginning but they have both grown a lot since.

          • Shiro
            Shiro
            July 3, 2017 at 1:11 am | #

            I’ve got hope for them since, despite Walky’s weird one-pair-of-shoes brand of masculinity, neither of them strikes me as the “rauuuugh this girl is mine forever both forwards and backwards in time and any reminder that this is unreasonable makes me angry” type.

        • Needfuldoer
          Needfuldoer
          July 3, 2017 at 2:53 am | #

          *Reads your post*
          *Checks which comic we’re reading*
          *Reads your post again*
          *reads the URL again*

          …

          • Emperor Norton II
            Emperor Norton II
            July 3, 2017 at 3:11 am | #

            Me, I’m incredibly impressed that Shiro managed to type all of that with a straight face.

      • BBCC
        BBCC
        July 3, 2017 at 12:39 am | #

        Neither do I, but Jason was never her boyfriend. They just fucked twice. And he was an incredible jerks to her too.

        • Shiro
          Shiro
          July 3, 2017 at 12:44 am | #

          (Pssst they said girlfriend (Dorothy) not sister)

          • BBCC
            BBCC
            July 3, 2017 at 12:45 am | #

            Oh, shit, my bad. In that case, nooooo, can’t see any awkwardness at all, even if it’s not malicious, nosireebob.

    • StClair
      StClair
      July 3, 2017 at 12:32 am | #

      “hook you up”, eh?

      • BBCC
        BBCC
        July 3, 2017 at 12:41 am | #

        If only Jason weren’t his TA. But he is, so that would be the biggest of no-nos.

  30. Reltzik
    Reltzik
    July 3, 2017 at 12:22 am | #

    ….. so panels 5 and 6 aren’t NECESSARILY counter to the “Walky/Jason hatefuck over tutoring session” theory.

    …. okay, I wasn’t thinking it. And I’m still not. And they seem to be wearing clothes.

    But now you can’t unsee it.

    • Delicious Taffy
      Delicious Taffy
      July 3, 2017 at 7:54 am | #

      All it takes is unfastened trousers.

  31. Nyomnyomnyom
    Nyomnyomnyom
    July 3, 2017 at 12:22 am | #

    As someone who tutors for a living, I can attest to that.

    Also, my first post. Long time reader/lurker, first time comment or. Hello friends!

    • Sam
      Sam
      July 3, 2017 at 10:21 pm | #

      Hello Nyomnyomnyom. Please do not endlessly scream in flashbacks. We already have Jason and Walky doing that.

  32. Dave
    Dave
    July 3, 2017 at 12:26 am | #

    Looking more and more like Amber killed Ryan. Or maimed him within an inch of his life.

    • butting
      butting
      July 3, 2017 at 1:12 am | #

      I think Walky would’ve phrased it differently if Ryan was dead? Maybe?

      And I’m hoping that the way he says “jerk got what he had comin’ to him” like it’s an uncontroversial opinion is significant.

      • Noxx
        Noxx
        July 3, 2017 at 1:40 pm | #

        Walky is pretty flip about “srs bzns”, I wouldn’t be surprised if Ryan’s dead. That doesn’t bode well for Amber. Being justified, and being okay with your actions are two very, very different things.

    • Ragingagnostic
      Ragingagnostic
      July 3, 2017 at 6:50 pm | #

      Cryin’ Ryan got sliced and diced and WE didn’t get to see what happened? Insert slow burn here.

  33. miados
    miados
    July 3, 2017 at 12:27 am | #

    walky there is stuff you want to do in theory and stuff you want to do in application. I suspect wanting to watch is better in theory. I can’t handle gore so i know I would likely be unable to watch what happened to not ryan

    • vlademir1
      vlademir1
      July 3, 2017 at 2:11 am | #

      There’s a funny thing. I can deal quite well with simulated gore, having grown up in the era of ’80s slasher movies and VHS releases of ’70s classic B film gore like Texas Chainsaw Massacre while being a lifelong horror fan, and even relish it with glee, but with anything real, even if I’m merely exposed through video and not witnessing it directly, just makes me an emotional wreck.

      • Chris Phoenix
        Chris Phoenix
        July 3, 2017 at 2:54 am | #

        That reminds me of the Bloom County strip where two of the characters are watching TV and can’t agree whether they’re watching a war movie or the 10 o’clock news.

        The punchline: “Would someone please tell me if I should be enjoying this or not!”

  34. Rukduk
    Rukduk
    July 3, 2017 at 12:28 am | #

    So was panel five right before or immediately after they pulled out the Samurai swords? And who was the one who went onto one knee but stood standing while the other at first thought they won but then just face planted?

  35. timemonkey
    timemonkey
    July 3, 2017 at 12:29 am | #

    YES! Let Jason’s wave of self-righteous incompetence crash against Walky’s mountain of stubborn immaturity and be broken!

    • Rukduk
      Rukduk
      July 3, 2017 at 12:44 am | #

      A single wave will break against the mountain with no effect. But a million waves will lay the same mountain low. And the ocean is restless without end.
      …
      What I’m saying is that you have the roles reversed. Walky’s ignorance is the ocean and Jason’s incompetence is the mountain.

      • timemonkey
        timemonkey
        July 3, 2017 at 1:01 am | #

        But Jason doesn’t have a million waves in him. Sure, long term Walky could eb shouted down but Jason doesn’t have it in him.

        • Rukduk
          Rukduk
          July 3, 2017 at 1:53 am | #

          That’s why Walky’s the ocean and Jason’s the…oh. Ok, how did I not notice that pun in your response until now.

  36. FriendlyNeighborhoodDave
    FriendlyNeighborhoodDave
    July 3, 2017 at 12:30 am | #

    So Jason being a crappy teacher and Walky being an unwilling student aren’t working well together. Who’da thunk it?

  37. StClair
    StClair
    July 3, 2017 at 12:33 am | #

    oh hey, the flashback panels are back!
    at least these aren’t red…

    • Anowan
      Anowan
      July 3, 2017 at 3:12 am | #

      If tutoring flash-backs become red, even I will ask for Jason’s resignation.

      • Reltzik
        Reltzik
        July 3, 2017 at 3:40 am | #

        What if they’re red from Jason’s perspective?

  38. GoldStarz
    GoldStarz
    July 3, 2017 at 12:36 am | #

    I’m glad that Jason and Walky have bonded over their secret love of screamo music.

  39. Dave
    Dave
    July 3, 2017 at 12:44 am | #

    Gonna need Walky with the Shortpacked “most epic of hatefucks” speechbubble added in and Jason’s name swapped out for Mike’s

    If I push the fanon hard enough l’ll be one step closer to the dream of “Walky Performs on a TA”

  40. anonymsly
    anonymsly
    July 3, 2017 at 12:45 am | #

    Aaaah, so the mathematics grad student with zero training and personal inclination to be a teacher continues to be a terrible teacher. I am stunned by this twist.

  41. Briny
    Briny
    July 3, 2017 at 12:47 am | #

    Not doing a whole analysis, but: Panel 1- Good for Walky for trying, but she’s totally right here.

    • Fart Captor
      Fart Captor
      July 3, 2017 at 12:55 am | #

      She is, but Walky actually did good there. He’s openly expressing how he feels, and given how little experience he has with therapy, it’s understandable that he’d feel that way.

      Bringing it up allowed Dorothy to explain and defuse those feelings rather than Walky holding them in until they fester and turn into resentment. A+ personal growth, Walky

      • butting
        butting
        July 3, 2017 at 1:14 am | #

        And he’s not challenging her assessment in any way. Could be there’s two reasons for that happy fond smile in the last panel.

        • butting
          butting
          July 3, 2017 at 1:16 am | #

          (whoops, adding to add: way to go Dorothy for the neat catch-and-redirect on Walky’s “I’d pay to see that”. awesome little moment, that.)

  42. Jackie
    Jackie
    July 3, 2017 at 12:49 am | #

    Oh man… I knew it was gonna be bad.

  43. JohnnyO
    JohnnyO
    July 3, 2017 at 12:53 am | #

    Confirmation that Walky and Jason are fucking.

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      July 3, 2017 at 1:11 am | #

      I’m sure they both feel they are fucked

  44. Jess
    Jess
    July 3, 2017 at 1:10 am | #

    Baby steps, you two. Baby steps.

  45. Bagge
    Bagge
    July 3, 2017 at 1:14 am | #

    I STILL friggin’ love Doroty. She has a very healthy attitude to her trauma, and I love all the little gentle check-ins between her and Walky.

    • Emperor Norton II
      Emperor Norton II
      July 3, 2017 at 3:13 am | #

      Dorothy the person is one of the absolutely most likeable people in the whole wide world. She is a perfect autumn blossom, after all.

      • Bagge
        Bagge
        July 3, 2017 at 4:03 am | #

        She is, she truly is. AND a precious cinnamon roll AND a 10 (not that Joyce rates women or anything)

  46. Coco Pommel
    Coco Pommel
    July 3, 2017 at 1:19 am | #

    I’m not sure who will become SSJ first, Walky or Jason

  47. Tacos
    Tacos
    July 3, 2017 at 1:22 am | #

    Any more yelling and those two are gonna go super saiyan. Or whatever’s the most current saiyan form.

    • newllend(henryvolt)
      newllend(henryvolt)
      July 3, 2017 at 2:03 am | #

      All these DBZ jokes are priceless

    • vlademir1
      vlademir1
      July 3, 2017 at 2:28 am | #

      Clearly Jason already went Super Saiyan Blue 😀

      • Tacos
        Tacos
        July 3, 2017 at 5:08 am | #

        There’s too many variations now. From what I know, there’s Blue, Red, and Rose. And if Broly shows up, I won’t be surprised if they say he’s Super Saiyan Green ~_~

        • Rukduk
          Rukduk
          July 3, 2017 at 10:04 am | #

          Well, uh, Kale just entered the picture. She’s a Saiyan from Universe 6. She is also a female version of Broly. So…you’re kinda right. With the exception that Super Saiyan Rose only existed because an evil Kai from the future of Universe 10 stole Goku’s body in an alternate timeline, and was a result of his natural ki working in tandem with Goku’s ki. …That storyline could be very hard to follow at times. But it’s not a natural Super Saiyan form that a Saiyan can achieve. On the other hand, that arc also made Spirit Saiyan from the movie “Super Android 13” canon, at least for half saiyans. Oh, and Goku can use the Kaioken when in Super Saiyan Blue mode.

    • Garrulous
      Garrulous
      July 3, 2017 at 7:54 am | #

      And here I thought they were in the middle of a beam battle. I sure hope whichever one is aiming AWAY from the earth is the one that wins!

  48. Reltzik
    Reltzik
    July 3, 2017 at 1:28 am | #

    Comparing faces: Panel 2 Dorothy and Panel 7 Walky.

    Who’s got the worse trauma here? I mean, sure, Dorothy went through something far more horrific. But she’s got an outlet and it’s not effecting her self-image, so maybe she’s in a healthier place?

    • Arianod
      Arianod
      July 3, 2017 at 1:47 am | #

      *affecting (typo squad to the rescue!) 😉

      • Reltzik
        Reltzik
        July 3, 2017 at 3:41 am | #

        Nope, effecting.

        • Emperor Daniel
          Emperor Daniel
          July 3, 2017 at 8:43 am | #

          You used that word just to be able to link the strip, didn’t you.

        • Arianod
          Arianod
          July 3, 2017 at 8:56 am | #

          And what would be the obscure meaning of “effect” which justifies its use in your sentence?

          • Amazi-Stool
            Amazi-Stool
            July 3, 2017 at 7:18 pm | #

            http://www.explainxkcd.com/

            • Amazi-Stool
              Amazi-Stool
              July 3, 2017 at 7:23 pm | #

              Although using it with this meaning in Reltzik’s sentence effects a weird affect in my brain.

              • Arianod
                Arianod
                July 3, 2017 at 9:49 pm | #

                Exactly: that’s not an “obscure” meaning, it’s the only meaning -as far as I know- of ‘effect’ as a verb. And it’s not the verb you want with that sentence: as it is, what the sentence means is that the experience Doroty went through “is not causing her self-image”, which makes no sense. What he meant to say is that it’s not affecting (having an effect on) her self-image.

                • Arian
                  Arian
                  July 3, 2017 at 11:32 pm | #

                  Seconded. Arianod is right.

    • CJ
      CJ
      July 3, 2017 at 3:14 am | #

      We cannot know if it’s affecting her self-image. Just because she deals with stuff as expected.
      And, you know, I find comparing suddenly realizing your not good at something you thought you were good at and getting angry with the (angry and not very helpful) tutor with watching someone you look up to put a knife into a bad guy somewhat grating.

  49. Adam Black
    Adam Black
    July 3, 2017 at 1:30 am | #

    Do we have to wait a year to find out what happened to Amber ?

    • Amazi-Stool
      Amazi-Stool
      July 3, 2017 at 7:31 pm | #

      This chapter is named “The ‘Do’ List” – an unlikely title for the reveal.
      The next chapter – according to the archive – invites us to “Face the Strange” – more likely, because of FAAAAAAACCCCCCCEEEEEE! (Bring back the 80s old memes!)

      But we don’t know how long we will have to – waitforit – wait for it!

  50. Ridureyu
    Ridureyu
    July 3, 2017 at 1:43 am | #

    Wait, Jason had sex with Walky, too? Damn, man.

    • newllend(henryvolt)
      newllend(henryvolt)
      July 3, 2017 at 1:59 am | #

      Pffft haha XD

    • ValdVin
      ValdVin
      July 3, 2017 at 10:40 am | #

      I guess the question is, did Jason “imagine this* but with boobs”, or the other way around?

      *http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-2/01-pajama-jeans/gross/

  51. Arianod
    Arianod
    July 3, 2017 at 1:46 am | #

    OK, that was hilarious.

  52. newllend(henryvolt)
    newllend(henryvolt)
    July 3, 2017 at 2:01 am | #

    I thought they were having mayhem lessons not singing lessons.

    • Shiro
      Shiro
      July 3, 2017 at 2:12 am | #

      Mayhem lessons sound fun, but ime college students are naturally proficient in mayhem and need no tutoring.

  53. Dana
    Dana
    July 3, 2017 at 2:11 am | #

    Finally getting some light on the cliffhanger. I’m glad Dotty asked.

  54. Eldritch Gentleman
    Eldritch Gentleman
    July 3, 2017 at 2:15 am | #

    Okay, seriously are they piloting a super robot while learning math O_o
    That would be pretty cool. I mean, subtracting by knowing how many robots enemy has and blowing them add. Multiplying by having several enemies that can multiply. Division by seeing them organize in equally numerous hordes. Very fun way to learn.

  55. BenRG
    BenRG
    July 3, 2017 at 2:50 am | #

    There is no universe in which David ‘Walky’ Walkerton and Jason Chesterfield are capable of spending any length of time alone together without ending up practically at each other’s throats. If that ever changed, I’d be genuinely worried if one or both of them had been replaced with a pop person.

    Also, yeah: The reality of watching one of your friends eviscerate someone is probably nothing like any fantasy or abstract concept ever. I genuinely wonder from Dorothy’s clear flashback-style trauma reaction in panel 2 if she’ll ever be able to talk to Amber ever again.

  56. Kitschensyngk
    Kitschensyngk
    July 3, 2017 at 3:02 am | #

    MATH TUTORING NO JUTSU~!

  57. Yumi
    Yumi
    July 3, 2017 at 3:05 am | #

    Completely unrelated to anything, what are some things to do for fun? But, like, with other people?

    (“Are…are you asking how to have friends?”
    Look, I used to be okay at it, but I’ve gotten worse.)

    • Emperor Norton II
      Emperor Norton II
      July 3, 2017 at 3:26 am | #

      Board games.

      Seriously, board games have never been better than now. Dozens of genres (including co-op games if you don’t like being competitive; or games that aren’t very serious at all and nobody really gives a shit about who’s winning) and lots and lots of games with good mechanics. They are so fucking fun!

      PLUS this: It’s a way, way better way to meet other people than going to bars or shit, especially for people that are horrible at small talk* or generally introverted. You get to focus on the same thing (the game) and because you get focused on the game, it’s hard to hide personalities, so you learn a lot about people. And some people talk more, and some talk less, but it’s all fine, and if there are pauses in the conversation, then it’s not awkward, it just means people are plotting things.

      I’ll take that over any weather or television or sports talk any day of the week.

      I myself regularly attend meetings with BOGA (Boardgamers of Greater Akron). We meet twice a month, with 30-70 people coming. We also invite people to demo their games for us so we can playtest them and give them feedback. Several times this has given us credits (as a group) on the final product. I’ve met so many people I like through this group, and have in fact been invited to two weddings by couples attending it.

      And most half-decent board game groups are always willing to teach you games. I mean, it just makes sense. If you don’t teach people the game you love, then you won’t find as many people willing to play it with you.

      So yeah, board games. If you’re lucky, there might even be a board game-themed bar near you at this point. I have one five minutes from where I live.

      *Not that I blame them, because small talk with people you don’t know is usually pretty horrible.

      • Yumi
        Yumi
        July 3, 2017 at 3:36 am | #

        I do enjoy playing Catan, but the main friends I play it with aren’t around anymore (moving states/countries). I also like the game Fluxx, but same issue. I was more thinking in terms of maintaining friendships, but I could probably do with making new friends too.

        I don’t think there are any board game bars around here, though. I’ve seen Groupons for some before, but they’re like 30+ miles away.

        • Emperor Norton II
          Emperor Norton II
          July 3, 2017 at 3:39 am | #

          Oh, -maintaining- friendship. Well, that’s an easy one.

          Don’t ever play Diplomacy with them.

          • Yumi
            Yumi
            July 3, 2017 at 3:46 am | #

            Thanks, though, as I’ve now learned about both the app Meetup and a board game group I might attend.

            • Emperor Norton II
              Emperor Norton II
              July 3, 2017 at 3:57 am | #

              socialmeeples dot com is also a nice tool (though I don’t think it has an app, so more for computers, possibly?). It’s like meetup, except entirely focused on meeting for boardgaming, making the UI more specialized and streamlined.

              And I know the guy that made it. He’s a really friendly fellow.

      • Shiro
        Shiro
        July 3, 2017 at 3:38 am | #

        Oh, that is too weird, one of my best friends lives in Akron! I’d recommend this to him except he and his wife have a brand new baby and are probably devoting their free time to things like sleeping.

  58. StClair
    StClair
    July 3, 2017 at 3:08 am | #

    “And THIS… is to go even FURTHER BEYOND!”

    • CianM1301
      CianM1301
      July 3, 2017 at 3:13 am | #

      Will Walky ever learn math in time for the final year exams? Will Jason get an aneurysm from having to deal with Walky? Find out next time on Dumbing of Age Z!

    • Delicious Taffy
      Delicious Taffy
      July 3, 2017 at 8:00 am | #

      (Cue Super Saiyan 3 theme music)

  59. Anowan
    Anowan
    July 3, 2017 at 3:15 am | #

    Oh Walky you little adorable average man.
    Oh Dorothy you perfect cinnamon roll.
    Is it weird that I find this particular strip so pure despite the context of it ?

  60. Mr.Morningstar
    Mr.Morningstar
    July 3, 2017 at 3:18 am | #

    What did Amber do to him holy shit

    • Eldritch Gentleman
      Eldritch Gentleman
      July 3, 2017 at 3:20 am | #

      Nothing much. Just gave him “These Scars”

    • BenRG
      BenRG
      July 3, 2017 at 3:32 am | #

      At the very least, I suspect that she carved ‘Rapist Scum’ onto his forehead. She may have also emasculated and castrated him.

    • OnyxIdol
      OnyxIdol
      July 3, 2017 at 4:10 am | #

      Unseam’d him from th’chops to the navel.

      (I don’t know if this quote is correct, it’s been ages since I read MacBeth.)

      • Amazi-Stool
        Amazi-Stool
        July 3, 2017 at 7:50 pm | #

        Is this a smartphone that I see before me?

        The main key toward my hand?
        Come, let me touch thee.
        I have thee not, and yet I see thee still.
        Art thou not, fatal display, sensible
        To feeling as to sight? Or art thou but
        A tablet of the mind, a false creation,
        Proceeding from the heat-oppressed CPU?

    • Tacos
      Tacos
      July 3, 2017 at 5:11 am | #

      I doubt she killed him at least. Otherwise Walky would have said something different.

      • Zaxares
        Zaxares
        July 3, 2017 at 6:22 am | #

        Yeah, I doubt that Amber killed him. But whatever she did, it was obviously something “bad”. We haven’t seen or heard from Amber at all since the new arc, which kind of suggests she’s either in for medical observation (at best) or in jail awaiting trial (at worst).

        Anyway, I’m glad that you feel that way, Dorothy. It means that you’re not a psychopath. It’s one thing to be filled with righteous anger and seek justice against those who would harm others, but the moment you start ENJOYING the infliction of pain and suffering on someone else, no matter how justified, you’ve crossed a line you can never come back from.

        • boop
          boop
          July 3, 2017 at 10:03 am | #

          well, there’s SSC sadomasochism, that’s not crossing any line

          not that that’s what was going on with Ryan and Amber

          but still, enjoying inflicting pain != monster

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          July 3, 2017 at 10:39 am | #

          Amber could also be on the run, though I doubt that’s where this is going.
          Joyce’s question to Danny made me wonder though. It could be read as “no one has heard from Amber since the incident”.

        • Fart Captor
          Fart Captor
          July 3, 2017 at 11:06 am | #

          I doubt that Amber did anything “bad”, or Dorothy wouldn’t likely agree with Walky at all. Just something unpleasant to witness. Like carving Ryan a new butthole, in his chest. So now he can make chest poops

        • Halpful
          Halpful
          July 3, 2017 at 3:32 pm | #

          “never” is a very strong word :p

        • Sam
          Sam
          July 3, 2017 at 11:17 pm | #

          Please do not use the term psychopath in this way. Being sadistic does not make you a psychopath, is not a criteria for being a psychopath and even if someone were a sadistic psychopath, that doesn’t mean they are evil, cruel or going to hurt anyone. Being a psychopath should not be an insult – their brains are wired differently – doesn’t make them the epitome of evil.

          Also, even if someone has the trait of being sadistic, that is not ‘crossing a line’ they ‘can’t come back from’ as people DON’T choose to be sadistic; it is a trait – one plenty of people deal with safely through BDSM and plenty of people do not acknowledge at all. It is also unnecessarily shaming for people that became sadistic due to trauma and feel guilty about it even though they would never randomly harm innocent people.

          It would also literally be shaming Amber who enjoyed hitting her abusive father, then felt extreme guilt afterwards and she already had freaking Rachel tell her she was irredeemable and look how that turned out, she literally disappeared into a goddamn void, that’s how that turned out.

          tldr; being a psychopath or being sadistic does not make you evil or irredeemable, neither of those are things you choose to be.

    • Goki
      Goki
      July 3, 2017 at 10:08 am | #

      Finally someone asked!!! I thought I heard someone mention that death will be limited in this comic (thought I could be mistaken) Also, as bad as it sounds), I am more concerned about Amber and Ethan, who Joyce specially asked about, than Ryan. Apparently whatever happened was not private nor does it seem that it was covered up.

  61. Wraithy2773
    Wraithy2773
    July 3, 2017 at 4:40 am | #

    You know what’s going to end up happening? We’re going to get another big development we’ve all been waiting for when WHAM, it’s interrupted for us to finally find out what the hell happened.

    …Willis is enjoying this trolling, I just know it.

    • Kernanator
      Kernanator
      July 3, 2017 at 11:57 am | #

      Here’s what I think will happen: We won’t find out what happened until the very last strip of the day.

  62. KSClaw
    KSClaw
    July 3, 2017 at 4:58 am | #

    screaming is supposed to be therapeutic, right?

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      July 3, 2017 at 5:13 am | #

      Screaming is supposed to teach you math, right?

      • AlexDenton
        AlexDenton
        July 3, 2017 at 8:50 am | #

        Well one of my teachers tried that approach. Didn’t work. He seemed to feel better afterwards though ^^

  63. Spencer
    Spencer
    July 3, 2017 at 5:46 am | #

    “Listen up, Doctor Who. Whatever you did for my sister, you better do for me a thousand times better!”

  64. KingMonster
    KingMonster
    July 3, 2017 at 6:06 am | #

    NEXT TIME ON DUMBING OF AGE!

    WALKY AND HIS TEACHER YELL ALOT! NOTHING ACCOMPLISHED! THEN THEY TAKE THEIR TUTORING TO THE NEXT LEVEL!

    WHAT’S THIS?! SUPER HUMAN LEVEL 2?!?

    PREPARE FOR WEEKS WORTH OF FILLER EPISODES!

  65. Vulcanodon
    Vulcanodon
    July 3, 2017 at 7:35 am | #

    I am loving everything about frames 1 and 2. Walky’s caring, but out of his… paygrade. Counseling professionals (OK assuming good ones) can be better than friends for dealing with things that just aren’t as simple as they seem.

  66. JessWitt
    JessWitt
    July 3, 2017 at 7:44 am | #

    This brings back bad memories of my high school math tutor. Freaking old crone.

  67. Delicious Taffy
    Delicious Taffy
    July 3, 2017 at 8:02 am | #

    So, they took a break to compare Doug Walker impressions?

  68. AlexDenton
    AlexDenton
    July 3, 2017 at 8:45 am | #

    Yep. Math. Accurate.

  69. Sephiroth144
    Sephiroth144
    July 3, 2017 at 8:58 am | #

    So which one turned blonde first…?

    • Emperor Daniel
      Emperor Daniel
      July 3, 2017 at 2:21 pm | #

      Walky. Which is surprising, because Jason already has that hair color.

  70. Alexx
    Alexx
    July 3, 2017 at 9:31 am | #

    Hey, that’s just like when people tried to tutor me in math! Ahh…good times. Like if math were a screw and people were trying to smash it into my head with a hammer.

  71. Brumagem
    Brumagem
    July 3, 2017 at 9:33 am | #

    (Not pictured: Jason and Walky jerking eachother so right)

  72. shammers
    shammers
    July 3, 2017 at 9:54 am | #

    Noooooo my lil Dorothy 🙁 so what happened to the other two..?

  73. Deanatay
    Deanatay
    July 3, 2017 at 10:43 am | #

    *left cheek twitches spasmodically*
    “Uhh… GOOD! It’s going… good…”

    • Deanatay
      Deanatay
      July 3, 2017 at 10:46 am | #

      Also, in Panel 7, looks like one of Walky’s eyebrows is escaping in the confusion.

      • Emperor Daniel
        Emperor Daniel
        July 3, 2017 at 6:05 pm | #

        It’s gone to be with Joyce’s eyebrows.

      • ValdVin
        ValdVin
        July 3, 2017 at 7:03 pm | #

        Good catch. I didn’t notice that he only had one eyebrow in low earth orbit there.

  74. Cmd1095
    Cmd1095
    July 3, 2017 at 10:58 am | #

    Next time on Dumbingball Z

    Walky: Curse you Jason! You killed my nachitoes! YOU WILL PAAAAAAAY *goes super Walky*
    Jason: What? No, how can this beeeeeeeeee *explodes after 5 minutes of screaming*

  75. Cephalo the Pod
    Cephalo the Pod
    July 3, 2017 at 11:45 am | #

    No guys, it’s okay, it’s okay.

    Jason amd Walky are just counting the number of A’s being multiplied together in a^44.

  76. Tenchan
    Tenchan
    July 3, 2017 at 1:33 pm | #

    It’s official: Jason sucks at tutoring!

    • Cmd1095
      Cmd1095
      July 4, 2017 at 1:20 am | #

      I kinda doubt either of the walkertons are exactly making this easy for him. Not sure if it’s entirely fair to say he sucks at tutoring as a whole, he just sucks at dealing with Sal/Walky and their knot of personal issues that impede their ability to study

      • Fart Captor
        Fart Captor
        July 4, 2017 at 5:14 pm | #

        Unlike Walky, Sal was a willing student. Jason’s approach to the actual tutoring was to basically repeat the exact same lesson, in the exact same way. He never actually tried to understand why Sal didn’t get it the first time, or even change his approach.

        Later when he asked Sal what Danny did differently, and she told him, his reaction was defensive anger and dismissing her explanation as “sappy rubbish”.

        Jason is bad at this.

  77. Heavensrun
    Heavensrun
    July 3, 2017 at 2:33 pm | #

    I see Jason’s tutoring has not improved.

  78. BP
    BP
    July 3, 2017 at 4:03 pm | #

    I can’t find the video for the appropriate Scrubs clip so I’ll just post the dialogue here.

    Cox’s shrink: How’s your anger been lately?
    Dr. Cox: *flashbacks to himself screaming for 30 seconds solid* *back to real world* …Better!

  79. Puckish Rogue
    Puckish Rogue
    July 3, 2017 at 5:38 pm | #

    I like this, Dorothy had some serious fan-girling going on over AG but in panel two theres the realization of what that actually entails and what the reality can lead to

    A good comic strip

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      July 3, 2017 at 6:35 pm | #

      Like not being stabbed to death by a scarfaced rapist.

      • Puckish Rogue
        Puckish Rogue
        July 3, 2017 at 7:08 pm | #

        Ezachary, I really enjoy the John Wick series (Keanu Reeves is the best action star ever) but I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t want to be witnessing him kill someone with a pencil, in real life

        Looked pretty cool on the big screen though 🙂

    • Fart Captor
      Fart Captor
      July 3, 2017 at 6:59 pm | #

      1) That was Amber, not Amazi-Girl.

      2) It was self-defense, not vigilantism

      3) While she’s currently cringing at the thought of whatever Amber did to scarface, she’s been traumatized by that, but also almost certainly by having been stalked and threatened by a rapist with a knife. This is not a great moment for an “I told you so”

      • Puckish Rogue
        Puckish Rogue
        July 3, 2017 at 7:25 pm | #

        1. Does Dorothy understand the difference and who would answer to any crimes committed by AG, Amber or AG?

        In her eyes AG and Amber are one and the same

        2. Yes it was self-defense but it was also very brutal (I’m assuming) and Dorothy watched first hand a type of brutality she probably hasn’t experienced before

        3. I’m not saying “told you so” I’m saying that Dorothy has had her romanticised ideal shattered by the stark reality of what those actions can lead to

        Its a good strip because it shows the repercussions of those actions and they aren’t always “good”

  80. Wildcard
    Wildcard
    July 3, 2017 at 5:59 pm | #

    Wait, does Walky have a chipped tooth? I don’t remember that in any of the previous comics.

    • Emperor Daniel
      Emperor Daniel
      July 3, 2017 at 6:06 pm | #

      What gives you the impression he has a chipped tooth?

      • Wildcard
        Wildcard
        July 3, 2017 at 10:33 pm | #

        The part at the bottom right. Because of the coloring/shape it looks like a piece of his tooth is missing.

    • StClair
      StClair
      July 3, 2017 at 6:12 pm | #

      That’s a bit of gum showing.

      • Wildcard
        Wildcard
        July 3, 2017 at 10:36 pm | #

        His gums? I thought Willis would draw that around the whole bottom and top of his teeth. That’s an odd shape and place for that detail imo.

        • Lingo
          Lingo
          July 4, 2017 at 12:10 am | #

          I’m glad I’m not the only one to have noticed that odd bit of gum!

          • Lingo
            Lingo
            July 4, 2017 at 12:11 am | #

            I thought maybe he has a little bit of spinach stuck in there. He is kind of a slob.

  81. SP!Fan
    SP!Fan
    July 3, 2017 at 9:18 pm | #

    Willis, I think Walky and Jason is the best relationship you’ve ever written.

  82. DJFlare84
    DJFlare84
    July 3, 2017 at 11:01 pm | #

    RUUOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUGH I CAN FEEL THE LONG DIVISION COURSING THROOUUUGH MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!

  83. Hashbrownmashup
    Hashbrownmashup
    July 4, 2017 at 8:07 am | #

    All I can see is them doing Dragon Ball Z-esque powerup sequence.

  84. Roborat
    Roborat
    July 4, 2017 at 2:56 pm | #

    So, is it a race to see who gets to 9000 first?

    What? Somebody had to do it, and it has been a day already.

  85. Heavy E
    Heavy E
    July 4, 2017 at 10:36 pm | #

    Next time on x+y=Z!

  86. Josh Spicer
    Josh Spicer
    July 6, 2017 at 10:53 am | #

    Yeah seems about right with how I do math.

  87. Discord
    Discord
    July 23, 2017 at 12:55 am | #

    “AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!”
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    “AAAAAAAHHH!”
    “AAAAAAAHHH”
    “AAAAHH!”
    Xiaolin Showdown!

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Guess if they were gonna start remaking anybody in Studio Series it'd start with this guy. (Earlier version lightly Sharpied)
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Dan Larson @danlarson.bsky.social ⋅ 21h
The GIJoe Legacy Police Officer is conspicuously absent from today's Classified pre-orders. I wonder if Hasbro is trying to cut a deal with the President to release it in exchange for tariff relief.
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Evan Urquhart @evanurquhart.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
When I heard the mom of a trans girl say the night her daughter came out to her was the first time she'd ever seen her child happy, I knew it was a story I needed to share. These are the stories the public isn't hearing. An honor to get to report on 3 family's journeys for @teenvogue.com.
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Why These Trans Teens and Their Families Risked Everything to Get Gender-Affirming Care
It’s as simple as love.
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
huh wonder why the gijoe stream today was canceled what were they gonna reveal oh i see
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
how dare this plushie not be available to me, an american
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-𝚖𝚘𝚡 @moxiest.art ⋅ 1d
leftists: that thing you teach us in school to be terrified of is happening historians: that thing is definitely happening star wars: here is a beat-for-beat breakdown of how the thing happens, but with pew pew lasers. we know you watched it news outlets: these protesters are out of control
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
thinking about how fireflight's robot mode animation model is nonsense he just grows extra wings everywhere, like he transforms into biblically-accurate fireflight
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Matt Bors @mattbors.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
A Well Regulated Militia (2020)
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
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Dinosaur Comics! @qwantz.com ⋅ 1d
the sega genesis is my favourite video game console named after a book of the bible. also i think the only one, but i could be wrong www.qwantz.com/index.php?co...
T-Rex: Suppose I theorized that
T-Rex: So far we're in Normal Land, but stay with me. Now, if I then SAW a black raven, then that'd be some nice evidence that supports my
Utahraptor: Seems normal to me!
T-Rex: IS IT THOUGH??

T-Rex: Sure, a black raven supports my
T-Rex: So we've LOGICALLY PROVEN that seeing SONIC D. HEDGEHOG is somehow evidence for all ravens being black!! BUT THAT'S NUTS! We're in CRAZY LAND now, and we all just have to live with this unsolved problem in logic!!
Off panel: Frig, my sanity!!
T-Rex: FRIG, MINE TOO!
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
dawn: ha ha, you believed the fish but not me!
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
Dumbing of Age: "Saturday" www.dumbingofage.com/2025/comic/b... #webcomics #webcomic
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Saturday
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
meaningful number!
damnyouwillis.bsky.social's user avatarDavid M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
www.makeship.com/petitions/tr... Wanna Tricerahoodie Dina plush? GO PLEDGE FOR ONE! We need 200 people to make it happen! Pledge period will end in 10 days!
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Tricerahoodie Dina Plushie
Dina is so small and quiet that she goes completely unnoticed by most people for long stretches of time. She doesn’t talk much — she prefers to observe. People and how they interact is a puzzle to Din...
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Tirk @tirkarokujo.itch.io ⋅ 2d
im sorry but this is just indefensible, why the fuck is Judge Judy still on the air
mskellymhayes.bsky.social's user avatarPuff the Magic Hater @mskellymhayes.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
Chicago.
A city bus with the words Fuck ICE written on its windshield
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
worst where's waldo ever, he's right fucken there
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
ahh nah, if it does attach on his back, it attaches upside-down from my expected arrangement, so guess that chunk of vehicle mode hanging off his back already is the "cape"
damnyouwillis.bsky.social's user avatarDavid M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
Looks like the shield attaches via 5mm port to his arm, and there IS a 5mm port also on what becomes his back, so... maybe! If it doesn't get covered over in the transformation!
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
I've got a lovely box of Dorothy deedlely dee dee There they are all standing in a row
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
ACAB means Dennis the Menace
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEAk... all right, let's find out about everything amazon leaked yesterday
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Transformers Fanstream | June 2025 | Hasbro Pulse
YouTube video by Hasbro Pulse
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DollaryyDoos (she/her) @dollaryydoos.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
I don't care if I've said this before, unofficial or not, this is one of the best crossovers in history.
joechoui.bsky.social's user avatarJoe Chouinard @joechoui.bsky.social ⋅ 8m
My old 16-page comic where Frasier meets Columbo can be read on my website: joechouinard.com/columbo
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
Dumbing of Age: "Self-serving" www.dumbingofage.com/2025/comic/b... #webcomic #webcomics
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Starting yesterday and for the next nine days, Makeship has begun collecting pledges for a Tricerahoodie Dina plush!  If we reach 200 pledges in those 10 days, Dina will be made! That sounds pretty ra...
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