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August 1, 2023

On a date

by David M Willis on January 1, 2018 at 12:01 am
  • 02 - This Is the Way that We Love

└ Tags: jennifer, ruth

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  1. Mr D
    Mr D
    January 1, 2018 at 12:05 am | #

    Happy new year erryone

    • Mr D
      Mr D
      January 1, 2018 at 12:05 am | #

      Also, this is a really sweet strip.

      • Leorale
        Leorale
        January 1, 2018 at 1:59 am | #

        It so is!
        And happy new year, all. May your year be totally super worth it.

    • Remmington Steele
      Remmington Steele
      January 1, 2018 at 12:57 pm | #

      Happy New Year ou!

  2. Jean Harghel
    Jean Harghel
    January 1, 2018 at 12:05 am | #

    Yay first
    And this is fucking cute

    • Jean Harghel
      Jean Harghel
      January 1, 2018 at 12:05 am | #

      Dammit.
      Happy Mew year I guess Mr D

      • Mr D
        Mr D
        January 1, 2018 at 12:06 am | #

        Happy new year.

        Also, your post is gonna get deleted, “First” are one of the few things that gets your post deleted 😛

        • Jean Harghel
          Jean Harghel
          January 1, 2018 at 2:27 am | #

          Aww come on, the first time I thought I was first ever…
          Oh well.

        • Ivy
          Ivy
          January 1, 2018 at 2:44 am | #

          I thought it was saying first, and nothing else that would get your post deleted.

  3. AnvilPro
    AnvilPro
    January 1, 2018 at 12:05 am | #

    We’re all alive on the inside. Whether we feel it or not.

    • Reltzik
      Reltzik
      January 1, 2018 at 12:07 am | #

      Except for trees. They’re only alive on the outside. They’re cold and dead in their heartwoods.

      (And that’s a good thing. …. for trees, at least.)

    • Dibullba
      Dibullba
      January 1, 2018 at 1:42 am | #

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlgJs_G8Co8

  4. arjay2813
    arjay2813
    January 1, 2018 at 12:05 am | #

    daaaaw

  5. Reltzik
    Reltzik
    January 1, 2018 at 12:06 am | #

    And, of course, they’re kissing, midnight, New Years Eve. Did you plan that, Willis?

  6. Passchendaele
    Passchendaele
    January 1, 2018 at 12:07 am | #

    AAAAAAAAHHH

    *deep breath*

    AAAAAAAAAAAHHHH

    • Passchendaele
      Passchendaele
      January 1, 2018 at 12:09 am | #

      sweetness overload. ;-;

  7. Joe Moose
    Joe Moose
    January 1, 2018 at 12:07 am | #

    EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!! <3

  8. DailyBrad
    DailyBrad
    January 1, 2018 at 12:07 am | #

    I think Billie and Ruth were due something to get excited about.

  9. Sporky
    Sporky
    January 1, 2018 at 12:07 am | #

    I hope nothing fucks this up :c

    • Reltzik
      Reltzik
      January 1, 2018 at 12:09 am | #

      It’s a date storylinein a college tramedy (tragedy/comedy) series.

      WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG?

      • ozzi
        ozzi
        January 1, 2018 at 5:09 am | #

        The forest crew think less of her for being a lesbian. They could all be secretly homophobes.

        • Reltzik
          Reltzik
          January 1, 2018 at 5:48 am | #

          RAs all have genders matching the wing they manage, the Forest crew already knows that Billie slept with her RA, and they think it’s super-cool.

    • Skoyatt
      Skoyatt
      January 1, 2018 at 4:24 am | #

      Well, for a starter, Billie didn’t actually say “Yes.”

  10. FractalDawn
    FractalDawn
    January 1, 2018 at 12:07 am | #

    Thank you for starting the year on a good note. I feel we all needed that.

  11. Too Old To Be Cool
    Too Old To Be Cool
    January 1, 2018 at 12:07 am | #

    How sweet!

  12. DinaWho
    DinaWho
    January 1, 2018 at 12:08 am | #

    Well, glad to know 2018 is off to a good start somewhere. Even if it’s not New Year’s there.

    • JustCheetoDust
      JustCheetoDust
      January 1, 2018 at 12:45 am | #

      Watch as there’s a timeskip for the storyline New Year’s…whenever that happens in the 2020’s.

  13. Queen Anthai
    Queen Anthai
    January 1, 2018 at 12:08 am | #

    thank you for this small blessing

  14. Friscovi
    Friscovi
    January 1, 2018 at 12:09 am | #

    I’m not crying your … aw I’m crying like it’s the end of Coco. Good Job Mr. Willis!

  15. pacce
    pacce
    January 1, 2018 at 12:10 am | #

    Awww, they’re not being toxic to each other!
    Happy New Year!

  16. Stephen Bierce
    Stephen Bierce
    January 1, 2018 at 12:11 am | #

    Some people are made for each other
    Some people can love one another for life…
    How ‘Bout Us?

  17. Yumi
    Yumi
    January 1, 2018 at 12:12 am | #

    THIS IS SO FUCKING CUTE

  18. Reltzik
    Reltzik
    January 1, 2018 at 12:13 am | #

    Waaaait.

    Billie didn’t say yes.

    Is that an acceptance kiss or a pity-before-I-break-your-heart kiss?

    …..

    I’m GUESSING it’s the first, but this is Willis, and he is damnable.

  19. newllend(henryvolt)
    newllend(henryvolt)
    January 1, 2018 at 12:16 am | #

    One sweet moment to start off 2018.

  20. adjudicus
    adjudicus
    January 1, 2018 at 12:16 am | #

    This is amazing. Thank you for this, willis.

  21. SOMEBODY TOUCHA MY SPAGHET
    SOMEBODY TOUCHA MY SPAGHET
    January 1, 2018 at 12:16 am | #

    This is the best way to start off the new year.

  22. John
    John
    January 1, 2018 at 12:16 am | #

    Welp, year’s going to be downhill from here.

  23. Plasma Mongoose
    Plasma Mongoose
    January 1, 2018 at 12:18 am | #

    Do you kiss your mother with that tongue?

    • Stephen
      Stephen
      January 1, 2018 at 12:47 pm | #

      You kiss your mother with tongue? 🤔

  24. Kernanator
    Kernanator
    January 1, 2018 at 12:19 am | #

    Man, it’s so great to have these two being cute in a non-horrifying way.

    • Plasma Mongoose
      Plasma Mongoose
      January 1, 2018 at 12:29 am | #

      The horror will occur later, BWAHAHAHA!

      • Frost Magi
        Frost Magi
        January 1, 2018 at 10:32 pm | #

        I can see that happening lmao
        And everyone who’s stated that this is adorable is right, I can’t…
        Happy New Year everyone 😀

  25. Tacos
    Tacos
    January 1, 2018 at 12:31 am | #

    Daaawww.
    While technically it’s still 2 hours here till New Year, I’ll go ahead and say Happy New Years. Hopefully this year won’t be as shitty as the previous one.

  26. Schpoonman
    Schpoonman
    January 1, 2018 at 12:33 am | #

    Oh my goood thank you, Willis.

  27. Deadjolras
    Deadjolras
    January 1, 2018 at 12:42 am | #

    Now this is the best way to start a year! (I mean, 2018 began two hours ago for me, but you know what, the sentiment still stands).

  28. nothri
    nothri
    January 1, 2018 at 12:43 am | #

    15 minutes until midnight in my area. I’m staying up so I don’t make the mistake they make in those slasher movies when they shoot the slasher and then find out later its still alive. I’M MAKING SURE 2017 IS DEAD AND WILL NEVER COME BACK.

    • Bicycle Bill
      Bicycle Bill
      January 1, 2018 at 2:07 am | #

      I’m glad to see 2017 in my rearview mirror as well.

  29. StClair
    StClair
    January 1, 2018 at 12:43 am | #

    At the start of 2017, I made one resolution:
    Get through it, somehow.
    I did. And now, thanks to this and other things, I have hope again.
    Let’s keep that rolling ahead into the new year.

    • ManFromPawtucket
      ManFromPawtucket
      January 1, 2018 at 6:33 am | #

      Glad to hear you made it through as well. Congrats 🙂
      Hope things work out for you and that 2018 doesn’t
      suck as much as 2017 did.

    • Jhon
      Jhon
      January 1, 2018 at 6:22 pm | #

      2018 will be another crappy year unless we do something about it.
      I’m demonstrating tomorrow for Net Neutrality.

    • MasakiSayz
      MasakiSayz
      January 1, 2018 at 7:55 pm | #

      There’s a Mountain Goats song I’ve adopted as a mantra for just that mindset. The chorus hooks “I am gonna make it through this year if it kills me.”

  30. fogel
    fogel
    January 1, 2018 at 12:44 am | #

    😀

  31. motorfirebox
    motorfirebox
    January 1, 2018 at 12:44 am | #

    Y’know, if Billie and Ruth’s relationship started in 2017, that would explain a fuckin’ lot.

  32. JohnnyO
    JohnnyO
    January 1, 2018 at 12:46 am | #

    Right now I feel Very Alive.

    When I have to wake up at 9 AM with a wicked hangover and go to work?
    Probably not so much.

  33. Keulen
    Keulen
    January 1, 2018 at 12:47 am | #

    Best New Year’s strip ever!

  34. Rukdug
    Rukdug
    January 1, 2018 at 12:49 am | #

    This is so nice….please let this be a good omen for the new year.

  35. Elsendor
    Elsendor
    January 1, 2018 at 1:04 am | #

    WHAT A GOOD START TO THE NEW YEAR <333333

  36. tirachokko
    tirachokko
    January 1, 2018 at 1:11 am | #

    FIRST KISS OF THE YEAR THEY HAVE TO BE TOGETHER FOR AT LEAST ANOTHER YEAR RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT?! Then again, one year rl is like 3 weeks dumbiverse time ahhhhhhh

  37. Dara
    Dara
    January 1, 2018 at 1:11 am | #

    Oh good.

    We’re still a couple of hours out as I write this, but happy new year.

    Please.

  38. Joslyn
    Joslyn
    January 1, 2018 at 1:14 am | #

    hhnnngggglblblblblblblblbbgfgffggnngnggg <3!

  39. avistel
    avistel
    January 1, 2018 at 1:35 am | #

    OM NOM NOM

  40. Justin
    Justin
    January 1, 2018 at 1:45 am | #

    Yeeeeesssssss!!!!!!!!

  41. Cerberus
    Cerberus
    January 1, 2018 at 1:45 am | #

    I love these assholes so much! <3

    Yay for a happy healthy date and a growth from trauma, self-doubt, and pain.

    May we all get our respite from the hell that has been 2017.

    • Rukdug
      Rukdug
      January 1, 2018 at 2:08 am | #

      I second that. 2017 was hellish in a way I couldn’t believe. It’s like it was competing with 2016 to see who could be the worse year.

      Also, it’s nice to see you again Cerberus. I haven’t been here in the comments that often for months because of my first semester as an actual teacher. Here’s hoping that next year is good for you.

      • Nobody
        Nobody
        January 1, 2018 at 3:56 am | #

        I third that, I really hope that 2018 doesn’t try to live up to its predecessors

    • Falcon
      Falcon
      January 1, 2018 at 4:23 am | #

      Oh I don’t know. 2017 delivered on a lot of the hell promised by 2016, but it also gave us a buttload of bright new hope.

      • Reltzik
        Reltzik
        January 1, 2018 at 4:46 am | #

        That LITERALLY translates as hopeful sunshine blown up our asses.

        …. but yeah, okay, there’s signs of things improving.

        • Inahc
          Inahc
          January 1, 2018 at 7:58 pm | #

          can you tell me what they are so I don’t have to pick through lots of bad news to find them? 🙂

          • Reltzik
            Reltzik
            January 1, 2018 at 9:00 pm | #

            Focusing on the US, Trump’s lost momentum and support and is increasingly having trouble doing shitty stuff. The Senate margin is razor-thin. There’s a blue wave building. The military trans ban is gone. Pot is being increasingly legalized (meaning less incarceration). Society is actually giving a damn about sexual harassment. The economic recovery’s finally reached the lower economic classes. Minimum wages are rising. And since Trump got the three months he needed to get a clear picture of what’s going on, the travel ban’s gotta be going away any day now, right?

    • Vulcanodon
      Vulcanodon
      January 1, 2018 at 9:56 am | #

      I N that. No doubt at all that this is the best thing I’ll see on my screen all day.

      And a happy new year to you Cerberus. And to each of us, every one.

  42. Cmd1095
    Cmd1095
    January 1, 2018 at 1:50 am | #

    starting the new year out right, love it

    NOT DAMN YOU WILLIS

    I’d say bless you willis but it doesn’t have that same impact

  43. Jezi
    Jezi
    January 1, 2018 at 2:05 am | #

    I’m waiting for an entire closet’s worth of other shoes to drop, but for right now, this is sweet and happy and I love it and the holiday season has made me a sop.

    Happy New Year, David. Thanks for all your hard work and your lovely comic. Hope you and your family have the best in all things in 2018.

  44. Hazel
    Hazel
    January 1, 2018 at 2:09 am | #

    They are doing it! They are growing towards a healthy relationship!

  45. NinjaNick
    NinjaNick
    January 1, 2018 at 2:14 am | #

    Now this is how you start 2018!

  46. JessWitt
    JessWitt
    January 1, 2018 at 2:16 am | #

    New Year kiss! <3

  47. Tunisia
    Tunisia
    January 1, 2018 at 2:17 am | #

    WILLIS I SWEAR TO GOD DON’T YOU DARE HURT ME BY HURTING THEM OR I WILL MAIL YOU MY TEARS

  48. Joker Two
    Joker Two
    January 1, 2018 at 2:18 am | #

    Yes I’m still here, and that’s a good way to start the year!

  49. David H. Adler
    David H. Adler
    January 1, 2018 at 2:25 am | #

    *sniff*

  50. BenRG
    BenRG
    January 1, 2018 at 3:05 am | #

    I think that panel 4 is honestly the sweetest (in romantic terms) panel that Willis has ever drawn of which I’m aware.

  51. Beef
    Beef
    January 1, 2018 at 3:17 am | #

    Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

  52. Dana
    Dana
    January 1, 2018 at 3:26 am | #

    Dawwww. <3

  53. Jaime
    Jaime
    January 1, 2018 at 3:27 am | #

    HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!!! 😊

    I won’t lie – that last panel made me tear up a little bit. It’s just so sweet. Count me as one of the readers who is REALLY rooting for Billie and Ruth.

    I’m more maudlin than usual because today (well, actually yesterday now) is also my 17th year anniversary with my partner. Before I met him I’d paid for a hotel room in Boston for New Year’s Eve 1999. (And I am TOTALLY dating myself here!) At the time you had to make reservations a year or more in advance. When I booked the room I assumed it would be for me and my then-current partner. But things went to h3ll with him unexpectedly quickly. I didn’t want to give up the hotel reservation so I decided I was going to invite all my friends and we’d have a party for the millenium in the hotel room. My friends at the time included my now-current partner. He and I were very good friends and sometimes flirted with each other but hadn’t hooked up and I wasn’t sure it was going to go beyond friendship. Well, ten or so people in a hotel room is a LOT – I landed up basically sitting in my current partner’s lap. One of our other friends looked at us and asked, “So, how long have you two been together?” We stared at each other and said, “UM….” But that was kind of the moment when we realized we were more than friends.

    And we’re still more than friends…17 years later. 😊

    • mschmidt62
      mschmidt62
      January 1, 2018 at 3:37 am | #

      Awesome!

    • Tan
      Tan
      January 1, 2018 at 3:57 am | #

      If it was New Year’s Eve 1999 (going into 2000), and it is now 2018, then shouldn’t this be your 18th anniversary?

  54. Danni
    Danni
    January 1, 2018 at 3:37 am | #

    *high pitched scream*

  55. Sandbridgekid
    Sandbridgekid
    January 1, 2018 at 3:39 am | #

    Thanks ending and bengining with….love.

    • Sandbridgekid
      Sandbridgekid
      January 1, 2018 at 3:40 am | #

      Why I hate typing on phones!

      • Sunny
        Sunny
        January 1, 2018 at 8:00 pm | #

        I don’t know. Y U h8 typing on phones?

  56. Lulu
    Lulu
    January 1, 2018 at 4:02 am | #

    A good comic page for a hopeful New Year.

  57. acher4
    acher4
    January 1, 2018 at 4:27 am | #

    Happy New Year all!

    Such a cute strip to start 2018. 😀

  58. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    January 1, 2018 at 4:28 am | #

    Akemashite omedetou gozainya~
    Bonne année !

    • adjudicus
      adjudicus
      January 1, 2018 at 8:13 am | #

      Xin nian quai le to you too!

      • Liquid Len
        Liquid Len
        January 1, 2018 at 3:29 pm | #

        Gong He Fat Choi!

        Oh, wait, 6 weeks early…

  59. newllend(henryvolt)
    newllend(henryvolt)
    January 1, 2018 at 4:50 am | #

    Yes alt-text Willis, Somehow we haven’t been blown apart yet.

  60. Hoodiecrow
    Hoodiecrow
    January 1, 2018 at 5:02 am | #

    I just got up and read the strip, so I have to say 2018 is looking good so far.

    These two have shown considerable capacity for mutual destruction. It is becoming clear that there is considerable capacity for mutual healing as well.

    I know that happy couples make for poor stories, but please Mr Willis, bore me to death with productive RA/student days and candlelight evenings. I’m such a jerk, I deserve to see them thrive unto their grandkid years.

  61. mister gray
    mister gray
    January 1, 2018 at 5:36 am | #

    I love these guys, can we make there relationship wacky and crazy but full of love mister willis? PWEASE?!

  62. Fire_daws
    Fire_daws
    January 1, 2018 at 5:58 am | #

    D’awwwwwwwwwwwwww and Squeeeeeeeeeeeee :)))))))

  63. Yarrr
    Yarrr
    January 1, 2018 at 6:31 am | #

    “Us?”

    <3

  64. CoMa
    CoMa
    January 1, 2018 at 6:39 am | #

    Thank you, Willis.
    This made me starting off my day (after having just a few hours rest because transport home from a friends place in the night took so damn long) so much better 🙂

  65. Liliet
    Liliet
    January 1, 2018 at 6:41 am | #

    BEST

  66. Delicious Taffy
    Delicious Taffy
    January 1, 2018 at 6:48 am | #

    Wow, so these two are kinda queer, huh?

    • Liliet
      Liliet
      January 1, 2018 at 4:52 pm | #

      HUH

  67. Noodle Sauce
    Noodle Sauce
    January 1, 2018 at 8:06 am | #

    starting the new year with beautiful gays is the only proper way

  68. ValdVin
    ValdVin
    January 1, 2018 at 8:26 am | #

    Is this the most public they’ve been with displays since the hand-holding after Ruth’s stay away?

  69. Pumpkin Pie
    Pumpkin Pie
    January 1, 2018 at 9:24 am | #

    This is a good way to start 2018 with a moment of happiness and hope for the future. Knowing that from mutual destruction mutual growth is possible.

    Thanks Willis, to you a good year.

  70. Vulcanodon
    Vulcanodon
    January 1, 2018 at 9:53 am | #

    Yes we are alive. Starting off the year with a moment of pure goodness. Thank you Willis.

    • Deanatay
      Deanatay
      January 1, 2018 at 10:12 am | #

      *checks personal structural integrity*

      Can confirm, seem to have survived 2017. It’s over, thank everything.

      • StClair
        StClair
        January 1, 2018 at 2:31 pm | #

        I’ll second that.

  71. Vika
    Vika
    January 1, 2018 at 10:15 am | #

    yeeesssssssss

    happynesss!

    finallyyyyyy

    yaaaaaaaayy

  72. Zatar
    Zatar
    January 1, 2018 at 10:18 am | #

    So Cute.

  73. Valerie Holt
    Valerie Holt
    January 1, 2018 at 10:42 am | #

    Don’t you DARE make them have to cancel because of Angst.
    I wanna see an ADORABLE GODDAMN DATE MISTER

  74. DocHarleen
    DocHarleen
    January 1, 2018 at 10:43 am | #

    Please be good to us, Willis! I want this to be nice for them so bad.

  75. Needfuldoer
    Needfuldoer
    January 1, 2018 at 10:48 am | #

    Yaay they’re pulling out of their mutually destructive codependent death spiral and developing a healthy relationship out of it!

    • Liliet
      Liliet
      January 1, 2018 at 4:53 pm | #

      yesss

  76. ArcNitemare
    ArcNitemare
    January 1, 2018 at 11:10 am | #

    I think this strip is a great way to start the year.It speaks so much hope in seven frames.While life isn’t always fair and eventually bad things happen.But for the moment these two get to just enjoy being together,without fear.And right now that is what matters.Let later wait.Now is what is important.

  77. Emperor Norton II
    Emperor Norton II
    January 1, 2018 at 11:19 am | #

    Yes, We are still alive.

    Also, We were very pleased that this year, there were about 45 seconds worth of fireworks around us. Distracted us less from playing video games.

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      January 1, 2018 at 11:29 am | #

      Huza!

  78. Emily
    Emily
    January 1, 2018 at 11:27 am | #

    I’m still bracing for one of those “character lets their ego get out of control and alienates everyone close to them” plot arcs with regards to Billie because I just can’t see another purpose to the weird hero worship over at Forest Hall.

    • Liliet
      Liliet
      January 1, 2018 at 4:55 pm | #

      other things that can happen at Forest Hall:
      – only personally Lucy gets hurt/alienated by the hero worship, and Billie has to do damage control on that;
      – Billie eventually comes to realize she doesnt /actually/ like being treated this way;
      – Billie is actually okay, and some other arc starts instead

  79. Bagge
    Bagge
    January 1, 2018 at 11:29 am | #

    *Joyce, steeples fingers.*

    Just as planned.

  80. DownhillSky
    DownhillSky
    January 1, 2018 at 11:56 am | #

    CUTE

    I want to hug them

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      January 1, 2018 at 3:16 pm | #

      They are a bit busy right now.

  81. Electriccombines
    Electriccombines
    January 1, 2018 at 12:03 pm | #

    Thank you, Willis. <3

  82. Ryek Hvek
    Ryek Hvek
    January 1, 2018 at 12:15 pm | #

    Where’s the “Like” button?

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      January 1, 2018 at 3:16 pm | #

      I’m sure Ruth and Billie will find it in due time.

  83. Spencer
    Spencer
    January 1, 2018 at 12:52 pm | #

    Just like their first kiss.

    You know the one where Billie was thrown into a wall and sexually assaulted by Ruth, but it’s okay because lesbians.

    • Remmington Steele
      Remmington Steele
      January 1, 2018 at 12:56 pm | #

      *sigh*

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      January 1, 2018 at 1:27 pm | #

      Except it’s not like that, because there’s no assault here.

      Few here disagree that the start was screwed up, but they’ve come a long way.

  84. Remmington Steele
    Remmington Steele
    January 1, 2018 at 12:56 pm | #

    They’re going to be fine.

  85. 10LettersIsTooLong
    10LettersIsTooLong
    January 1, 2018 at 6:50 pm | #

    I totally identify with this. My husband and I didn’t “date” until long after we were together, so our first actual-for-real-dates were that much more special. This feels like a lovely, warm nostalgia hug.

  86. Samantha Johnson
    Samantha Johnson
    January 1, 2018 at 6:53 pm | #

    YESS I am so happy with their progress. Ruth is getting help and not hating herself right now. Billie is still into the relationship even with it taking this healthier turn for normal and happy. I was so afraid she was going to recoil at this idea of a normal cute date. I bet this was just the reassurance Ruth needed that Billy still cares about her.

  87. Ryan
    Ryan
    January 1, 2018 at 8:31 pm | #

    Eeeeeeeeeee!

  88. Jack Finch
    Jack Finch
    January 2, 2018 at 12:19 am | #

    Ruth is being amazeballs. (Has she ever said “Yes, Please” in the entire strip before this?).

  89. Michael William Crichton
    Michael William Crichton
    January 3, 2018 at 12:27 am | #

    And so, they IMMEDIATELY started f@{%ing. The “date” never actually happened, but their relationship was deepened.

  90. Romanticide
    Romanticide
    January 3, 2018 at 12:25 pm | #

    yessss

  91. PB
    PB
    January 6, 2018 at 11:17 pm | #

    bweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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