IDK, it might be better that she PREVENTS this moment. Shit was about to get weird. (In other news, I love how Carla just towers over all the other women and most of the men. Between that and the “silently rolling up on people” ability, I’d wear skates all the time too if I could get away with it.)
Yeah, even with the skates taken into account, she’s gotta be pretty tall. I think Duncan may still be tallest, but Carla I think is definitely up there even in regular shoes. I forget who is taller, Sarah or Carla, but one of them’s probably tallest girl.
Disagree vehemently. Yes, the conversation was going to be (will be?) awkward, because it has to be, but Sal knowing is An Immensely Good Thing(tm) for Sal, for Ethan, and for Amber, and it is far better that Ethan explain it than Amber/AmaziGirl attempt to.
Though hopefully Ethan won’t tell her about Amber because that’ll be worse if Amber doesn’t know Sal knows. And certainly doesn’t tell her about Amber/Amazi-Girl.
Sal rarely calls anyone by their real names (Malaya and Marcie being notable exceptions). Sal just realized here that she didn’t have a handy nickname for Ethan, so she dug one out of their most memorable interaction, for her.
Carla, this moment is not about your parent’s company’s jacket.
This is about Ethan dealing with some teenage trauma he had.
Quit (for lack of a better phrase) cock blocking his trauma!
(Trauma blocking?)
It’s come up before – when the whole situation with Ruth’s depression finally came to a head, Carla was telling Billie to “get in [Ruth’s room] and do gross things to your girlfriend!”
We also know she’s still sex repulsed (at least with people) – it’s why Willis said she wasn’t going to be in slipshines. He also said he wasn’t going to do her posing sexily, masturbating, etc. because, again, that’s how her repulsion worked.
Probably a reference to this sequence, but that’s more Carla wanting Malaya to be mean to her, than actually offering gross things.
And I’ve still got no idea what that was really all about.
My guess is probably a reference to how Ultra-Car and Malaya were an item in the other ‘verse – note how Carla lost interest later in the chapter once Malaya propositioned Joe.
It was just weird and apparently out of character for Carla. It came out of nowhere. Carla was essentially pleading for abuse. And then it stopped.
I’m sure it was set up for something that hasn’t yet paid off, but I’ve no idea what.
Carla is basically asexual but Malaya-romantic and is into Malaya’s meanness. It’s not an uncommon attraction. It’s why the “girls like bad boys” stereotype exists. Some people find themselves attracted to snark (whether it’s healthy or not).
I guess. But as I said, it came out of nowhere, with no previous hints I’d seen and seemed to have vanish just as quickly.
And while the “girls like bad boys” thing exists, it’s rarely as blatant as publicly begging for it to be directed at them. Without a relationship even having started.
I am torn between angry yelling because Carla interrupted and laughing because she’s a delight and is still on about Sal wearing a shirt with her name on it (albeit in kinda an ass-y way since Sal’s already said it made her self conscious).
There’s nothing about Carla’s behaviour here that’s delightful. She’s just forcefully interjected herself into a private conversation literally just to harp on about something that Sal has already told her she is uncomfortable with. What part of her blatant disregard for others is cute?
Seriously, we just went through a month of trying to teach that lesson to that fucking bird in Wilde Life, we don’t have the energy to start all over here.
I dunno which sucks worse. Self-centred jackasses who roll in to other people’s conversations and talk about themselves right over the top of what anyone else was saying. People people who talk loudly about personal stuff in public places. People blow.
Can you be bad at remembering names but great at remembering nicknames? I know, that’s the premise of that trick to remember names by relating to them to something about the person, but I thought if you were really bad at it that didn’t work.
It’s different for different people. In this case “Apple-to-apples” refers to the specific situation where they met, so I think Sal would have an easy time remembering that one. She doesn’t have to connect the nickname with an association – the nickname IS the association (just look at some of the things she has called Joyce)
I have no idea why she would associate Danny with ‘Wonderbread’, though.
Not just whitest — it’s also flavorless and easily malleable. There’s nothing there. It epitomizes blandness. It’s inoffensive to basically everyone, except people who care about bread. Nobody begs for it, but almost no one actively hates it. Those who do hate it, however, hate it with a passion.
I would argue, in fact, that it’s Sal’s most accurate nicknaming.
I would say yes?
While I don’t nickname people, I can VERY EASILY remember a lot about a person, including a detailed history of the first time we met, etc-
But when I try to call up their actual *name*, my brain blanks on the issue.
If instead I created a nick-name based on the circumstances of our meeting, Is suspect I’d have a much, much easier time remembering that.
I’m not so sure. She seems to use them over much for that, even when she should have eventually picked up a name.
It’s also an interesting parallel with Walky – who we’ve seen make up names for Jason and Amber, despite knowing full well what Amber’s name was at least.
Maybe she just likes nicknaming people, at least at first? Most of the time when she uses nicknames, she’s either not known the person well or, in the case of calling Joyce ‘Pollyanna’ a little bit ago, because she was mad at them and being snarky.
Well, it’s not the worst superpower ever, but is “having nicknames ready to go for everyone” the lamest superpower ever?
I’m trying to remember the nicknames she bestowed, but this is one of those searches for which tags aren’t particularly effective. These are what I’ve been able to recall/find:
Danny: Wonderbread
Joyce: Blue Eyes
Jason: Bow Tie
I know its not on purpose but it could be mistaken as domineering position what Carlas doing right now, both hands on shoulders and leaning in to someones personal space
So, it’s confirmed that Sal doesn’t know who Ethan (and, or so we must assume) Amber are.
Carla, I love you girl but your timing stinks. We can deal with your self-esteem issues late. Right now get lost, Ethan and Sal are having a life-critical moment here.
I’d say third panel Sal has a “wait, where does this go?” moment with more than a touch of “shit” in it.
That said, Ethan, wow.
Carla, get your ass out of there.
But, this being DOA, probably Ethan will slink off leaving Sal with a vaguely disturbing idea that someone is around who recognizes her from one of her robberies.
Though, don’t we always hear Sal robbed supermarkets and from what I alsways thought and Ethan confirms here: Ethan and Amber were involved with a robbery in a gas station?
Sorry if I’m misreading what you said, but Ethan and Amber WERE involved in Sal’s (attempted) robbery of a gas station. We got the whole flashback eventually.
The point is, we saw lots of flashbacks about Ethan and Amber involved in a robbery at a gas station. It looked like one an Ethan’s words here say so, too.
But from the Sal side of the equation, we only heard of the robbery of, thanks for the correction thejeff, convenience stores.
A gas station is no convenience store in my understanding. I’m not a native speaker, though, so can they be two different words for the same thing?
Some (but not all) gas stations have convenience stores attached. So it IS a gas station but if you’re not getting gas and you just want to go in the store, you might refer it as a convenience store. (For example, before I stated driving, I’d often walk up to a local gas station to buy candy or something and just called it a store.
Because Amber’s dad had stopped there to get gas, that’s probably why Ethan thinks of it as a gas station. (And in Sal’s case she may have robbed normal convenience stores and at least one attached to a gas station. So “convenience store” describes both)
From an English language standpoint, just call it a gas station regardless of whether or not it has a store attached and you’ll be correct. hope this helps and didn’t end up being too much information
Ugh, I really hope this doesn’t turn into one of those “Psych! You thought you were getting character and plot development, but instead we’re delaying that for some wacky hijinks!” bits.
Because, honestly, I don’t know how much more can be gained by having Sal remain oblivious to Amber and Ethan. It’s a good time for her to learn about it, and maintaining the status quo only really serves one point: Making it Amber who tells Sal instead of Ethan.
And sure, women having agency in critical info about their stories, I’m normally all for that. But Amber’s had that opportunity like fifty times by now, she’s avoided it every time. I think it’s fine for someone else to broach the subject.
I agree! Carla has become as annoying as Bloo from Foster’s Home for Imnaginbary Friends. She is selfish, narcisistic and is aware she is a jerk and continues to be.
Willis, I swear if you are weaselling out of that conversation, I will make a point to locate and obliterate your Hot Rod shrine. There will be no survivor.
Obviously, we’re being set up for a twist that it was Carla, with a wig, colored contacts, and blackface, who robbed that gas station so many years ago. Everything else was coincidence and misdirection.
This is why I don’t like Carla. There’s a line between having a healthy sense of self worth and being an insufferably arrogant douchebag and she’s about 17 miles on the wrong side of it and whether or not it’s a facade is kinda irrelevant because it’s goddamn annoying either way.
My issue here isn’t where (or how distant) she is from the line, it’s how she’s clearly interrupting someone’s conversation to make it about a completely different topic. 8/
When people treat you like you’re not even a person sometimes you react by forcing people to acknowledge you. It makes you annoying but that’s part of the point.
Realism and accuracy can only make up for a story-derailing nightmare so many times.
For the most part I like Carla. But when she’s this invasive with people who already give her respect and dignity (Seriously? She followed Sal downstairs?), we’ve got a fucking problem.
Is this about Carla trying to get attention because of transphobia? Well, her attempts are empty because nobody likes annoying people that make every issue about themselves.
This is Carla’s jerk persona. Laid on so people will hate for being an asshole, instead of risking that they’ll hate her for being trans.
She’s actually not very good at being an asshole, as we’ve seen many times, but it apparently works on some readers.
This is something I constantly fail to grasp with a large subset of the readership who post comments here. How is it so difficult to understand that our omniscient awareness and knowledge of what’s going on doesn’t extend to the characters?
Generally, transphobia isn’t the ONLY reason somebody is like this. It’s sort of a feedback loop where you’re treated in dehumanizing or exclusionary ways constantly, for various reasons, over the course of your life, and it leads you to – as timemonkey put it – “[force] people to acknowledge you.” It’s an understandable personality quirk psychologically, but of course, it can also easily have the effect of making you even more off-putting, even intentionally so, which can at times exacerbate that mistreatment or isolation.
I like Carla. She’d probably annoy me in real life, but here we’ve seen through the facade enough for me to get past the minor annoyances.
Some people definitely overreact though.
Most people in general love Carla? She’s great. This is just one of those moments where, yknow, no one wants the gadfly to do her thing because she’s interrupting something really necessary and that sucks. Don’t read like haterade to me
Obviously I fail at the Internet, as I thought the easiest defacing of the jacket Sal could do would be to change “Rutten” to “Rotten”, and yet nobody seems to have posted it yet. Obviously, I just haven’t refreshed my browser enough.
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cue Sal taking one of those XL Sharpies to the jacket arms in 3… 2…
“Annnnnnnnd it’s gone!”
Maybe she’ll just change it from “Rutten” to “Butter”.
Everyone likes butter, no one would question someone wearing a butter jacket.
Especially not here in the South, we use that crap in basically everything we cook. Which may explain the morbid obesity funnily enough.
The sugar tea probably doesn’t help either.
It’s not proper sweet tea if the spoon doesn’t stay upright when you let go.
Drop one more crystal in and you have tea flavored rock candy.
Sadly more times than not, that won’t happen due to predominant use of corn sugars.
Blech
I now want tea flavored rock candy. I may need to do this.
Hey. HEY! We do not always use butter.
Sometimes we use bacon grease.
….or even lard
butten
Somehow, I knew you’d approve that change.
I’m not really sure how that n could be changed to an r with a sharpie.
Use red sharpie and white-out.
Or,… Use a knife. Doesn’t everyone carry a two inch pen knife?
Rule #9: Never go anywhere without a knife.
Seam ripper. Easily obtained at Walmart, any store that carries fabric, and some grocery stores.
But it’s a capital N.
Carla’s nice and all but she needs to get out of here so we can have this genuine moment.
IDK, it might be better that she PREVENTS this moment. Shit was about to get weird. (In other news, I love how Carla just towers over all the other women and most of the men. Between that and the “silently rolling up on people” ability, I’d wear skates all the time too if I could get away with it.)
Yeah, even with the skates taken into account, she’s gotta be pretty tall. I think Duncan may still be tallest, but Carla I think is definitely up there even in regular shoes. I forget who is taller, Sarah or Carla, but one of them’s probably tallest girl.
Duncan the jerky Shortpacked customer’s actually appeared here? When?
One appearance only, not particularly memorable.
He was tagged, unlike a certain cricket, er, piece of lettuce.
His name is Tag and nobody’s convincing me otherwise.
Rachel’s pretty tall too; her last appearance together with a similarly tall person – Joe – put them at practically almost the same height.
Carla’s six feet.
Anyone know what Carla’s height (in her humanoid body) was in Shortpacked?
Re: “it might be better”
Disagree vehemently. Yes, the conversation was going to be (will be?) awkward, because it has to be, but Sal knowing is An Immensely Good Thing(tm) for Sal, for Ethan, and for Amber, and it is far better that Ethan explain it than Amber/AmaziGirl attempt to.
Though hopefully Ethan won’t tell her about Amber because that’ll be worse if Amber doesn’t know Sal knows. And certainly doesn’t tell her about Amber/Amazi-Girl.
Couldn’t resist.
Well, she DID fuck that moment.
Carla’s nice and all but she needs to get out of here so we can have this genuine moment.
There must be some kind of way outta here
Said the Nono to the Sal
There’s too much confusion
I can’t get no relief
goddammit Carla
*In dan avidan voice* Goddamnit, Carla.
Hey NSP/Grumps fan~ Up top! *high fives*
Ageed, goddamnit, Carla.
Who had CarlaXMoment in the prediction pool for next major ship?
I was way off, my guess was MaryXGalassosChefToque.
You mean, this moment?
People fuck, but I’d definitely blow this moment.
moments blow, but i’d definitely fuck these people
That’s my motto.
Carla has already fucked this moment.
Oh boy, here it comes, time for the revelatio-DAMMIT CARLA!
“And the moment is gone”
So, who wants to bet that Ethan just gave her enough data for her to know what he’s talking about without him having to finish the sentence?
That would require her to care enough to make the effort to figure it out.
I’d say the odds are poor.
Sal isn’t an intellectual that connects dosts. She just punches and has a cynical world view, like Guts form Berserk.
In english there is always a chance that your accidental mistyping forms a real word. Well, I looked it up:
“Dost” is not english. but in my langugage it’s a rather obscure form of “oregano”.
Yeah right, Sal doesn’t connect (collect?) oregano.
Thou dost not truly believe that?! http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dost
Why does Sal call Ethan “apples to apples”? Is it some slang I’m not familiar with?
They met while playing Apples to Apples at Joyce’s dorm party.
my Reply being below bbcc’s makes me look dumber than I really am
Nah, it happens. People post at the same time. We call it getting ninja’d.
In general, me and BBCC commenting on the same post makes me look just as dumb as I am, which is rarely flattering.
I thought it was like… uh, balls to balls? Fuck it, I don’t know either.
He was at the party Joyce hosted playing Apples-to-Apples. Someone else can find the link.
Ta-da! http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/03-the-butterflies-fly-away/tall/
Let’s not forget about how Sal lost her virginity – or the face Joyce made upon finding out.
vhttp://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/03-the-butterflies-fly-away/applestoapples/
Sal rarely calls anyone by their real names (Malaya and Marcie being notable exceptions). Sal just realized here that she didn’t have a handy nickname for Ethan, so she dug one out of their most memorable interaction, for her.
I was thinking that it was because Sal often can’t remember people’s names, so she uses a nickname instead.
FUCK YOUR DRAMA iiiiiit’s CARLA
iiiiiiit’s CARLA come to FUCK YOUR DRAMA
FUCK. IT. HARD.
Your drama will be walking bow-legged for a week!
It’s FUCKFACE come to MAGICALLY MINDCONTROL your CARLA (when sitting on Joyce’s head)!
Not sure what went wrong. Heres the link.
Fuck your actual interesting plot development it’s Carla and a stupid joke that’s only gotten more annoying since the first time.
Today’s strip is sponsored by the Honda Fourtrax. Ride Red.
I want the next Slipshine to just be Carla doing a joyous dance through this moment.
Carla solo could work
Now you’ve got me imagining Carla dancing in a Han Solo outfit.
Doing the Snoopy dance.
Well it was basically guaranteed that they would be interrupted at least once.
Never thought I’d say this, but NOT NOW, CARLA.
Carla, this moment is not about your parent’s company’s jacket.
This is about Ethan dealing with some teenage trauma he had.
Quit (for lack of a better phrase) cock blocking his trauma!
(Trauma blocking?)
Is this the first in comic reference to Carla being Ace?
Also I’m wondering if Sal recognized Ethan and Amber and is choosing to not say anything just in case they forgot and she doesn’t want to remind them.
I get the feeling she doesn’t really remember them, she had(has had) other things on her mind. But I could be wrong.
It’s come up before – when the whole situation with Ruth’s depression finally came to a head, Carla was telling Billie to “get in [Ruth’s room] and do gross things to your girlfriend!”
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/04-it-all-returns/grossthings/
She keeps offering to do gross things to Malaya. So, that doesn’t mean much.
Carla’s ace, so pretty sure I’m going to need a citation on that – a quick search through their combined tags doesn’t reveal anything.
(And remember, potential romantic attraction =/= asexuality.)
We also know she’s still sex repulsed (at least with people) – it’s why Willis said she wasn’t going to be in slipshines. He also said he wasn’t going to do her posing sexily, masturbating, etc. because, again, that’s how her repulsion worked.
Probably a reference to this sequence, but that’s more Carla wanting Malaya to be mean to her, than actually offering gross things.
And I’ve still got no idea what that was really all about.
My guess is probably a reference to how Ultra-Car and Malaya were an item in the other ‘verse – note how Carla lost interest later in the chapter once Malaya propositioned Joe.
It was just weird and apparently out of character for Carla. It came out of nowhere. Carla was essentially pleading for abuse. And then it stopped.
I’m sure it was set up for something that hasn’t yet paid off, but I’ve no idea what.
Carla is basically asexual but Malaya-romantic and is into Malaya’s meanness. It’s not an uncommon attraction. It’s why the “girls like bad boys” stereotype exists. Some people find themselves attracted to snark (whether it’s healthy or not).
I guess. But as I said, it came out of nowhere, with no previous hints I’d seen and seemed to have vanish just as quickly.
And while the “girls like bad boys” thing exists, it’s rarely as blatant as publicly begging for it to be directed at them. Without a relationship even having started.
Handful of references, most of them oblique, yeah.
I am torn between angry yelling because Carla interrupted and laughing because she’s a delight and is still on about Sal wearing a shirt with her name on it (albeit in kinda an ass-y way since Sal’s already said it made her self conscious).
And I am SO PROUD OF ETHAN <3333
I second the entirety of this comment.
Like. Carla. You blew the mood. We were SO CLOSE!
But yes. So proud of Ethan. He’s trying so hard.
You’re just going to have to process all the emotions at once, like the rest of us : P
(But ditto emphasis on the Ethan-pride!)
t seems to me that Ethan has started to “improve”, be less wishy-washy and be a bit more decisive ever since he had sexy times with Mike.
I’m glad he’s improving I’d just have preferred it if the sexy times was with someone other than Mike.
There’s nothing about Carla’s behaviour here that’s delightful. She’s just forcefully interjected herself into a private conversation literally just to harp on about something that Sal has already told her she is uncomfortable with. What part of her blatant disregard for others is cute?
Her expressions mostly But you’re right, this is also definitely jackass-y.
Welp, this was pointless….
Carla.
Stop. Touching.
Seriously, we just went through a month of trying to teach that lesson to that fucking bird in Wilde Life, we don’t have the energy to start all over here.
heh.
Nah, it’s fine. We just need to learn from our earlier success: summon the spiders!
Blowjob spider?
(Yes, there is of course a relevant Oglaf. No, I can’t be bothered to find it.)
I’m angry that I know the exact strip you’re talking about.
I’m pretty sure it’s one of the most unforgettable ones. Whether you want it or not.
A red wolf runs through the quad, chased by an enthusiastic brunette. In the distance, a bear roars.
Hey, I am part of the hip crowd, I got that reference.
I dunno which sucks worse. Self-centred jackasses who roll in to other people’s conversations and talk about themselves right over the top of what anyone else was saying. People people who talk loudly about personal stuff in public places. People blow.
FUCK OFF CARLA! We were close to the awkward revelation moment and you blew it over! You blew it worse than Fin the Human in 2013. YOU BLEW IT!!!!!
Stop Carla-ing it up !
MOTHERFU– *cuts to color bars and unconnected signal tone*
Re: Alt text. I think she’s just bad at remembering names.
Can you be bad at remembering names but great at remembering nicknames? I know, that’s the premise of that trick to remember names by relating to them to something about the person, but I thought if you were really bad at it that didn’t work.
It’s different for different people. In this case “Apple-to-apples” refers to the specific situation where they met, so I think Sal would have an easy time remembering that one. She doesn’t have to connect the nickname with an association – the nickname IS the association (just look at some of the things she has called Joyce)
I have no idea why she would associate Danny with ‘Wonderbread’, though.
Wonderbread is the whitest bread I can think of…
It’s also frequently used as a synonym for milquetoast.
Not just whitest — it’s also flavorless and easily malleable. There’s nothing there. It epitomizes blandness. It’s inoffensive to basically everyone, except people who care about bread. Nobody begs for it, but almost no one actively hates it. Those who do hate it, however, hate it with a passion.
I would argue, in fact, that it’s Sal’s most accurate nicknaming.
I would say yes?
While I don’t nickname people, I can VERY EASILY remember a lot about a person, including a detailed history of the first time we met, etc-
But when I try to call up their actual *name*, my brain blanks on the issue.
If instead I created a nick-name based on the circumstances of our meeting, Is suspect I’d have a much, much easier time remembering that.
I’m not so sure. She seems to use them over much for that, even when she should have eventually picked up a name.
It’s also an interesting parallel with Walky – who we’ve seen make up names for Jason and Amber, despite knowing full well what Amber’s name was at least.
A distancing mechanism, maybe?
Maybe she just likes nicknaming people, at least at first? Most of the time when she uses nicknames, she’s either not known the person well or, in the case of calling Joyce ‘Pollyanna’ a little bit ago, because she was mad at them and being snarky.
Sal, distancing herself from people? I never! *faints*
Dammit Carla, I wanted to see how awkward this would get and you went and ruined the moment!
Sal’s superhero name should be The Nicknamer.
“CARLAAAAAAAA!
What’s your sole purpose in this storyline?!?”
“To ruin a perfectly good moment of character development and dramatic tension!”
“Dammit, Carla… You’re a goddamn genius! That is the most outstanding answer I’ve ever heard! You must have a goddamn IQ of 160!”
It’s over 9000!
So Sal’s face in panel 5 looks a lot more like “oh shit that thing I did.” rather than “oh shit that jacket I’m wearing.”
Maybe.
I read that as “wait what’s happening now?”
Well, it’s not the worst superpower ever, but is “having nicknames ready to go for everyone” the lamest superpower ever?
I’m trying to remember the nicknames she bestowed, but this is one of those searches for which tags aren’t particularly effective. These are what I’ve been able to recall/find:
Danny: Wonderbread
Joyce: Blue Eyes
Jason: Bow Tie
Others?
Dorothy – Lisa Simpson
Joyce – Pollyanna
Does ‘Bro’ count? It was her first…
She’s certainly no Varric…
I knew there would be a nickname for Jason, but here’s what I found:
peewee herman
bowtie
scrawny
scrawns
the stick
stick-assed motherf–
Carla is the most glorious jerkass and I love her expression in the last panel
Dammit Carla.
She definitely fucked the moment, that’s for sure.
I know its not on purpose but it could be mistaken as domineering position what Carlas doing right now, both hands on shoulders and leaning in to someones personal space
Reminds me a bit of this: https://i.stack.imgur.com/Dbcwe.jpg
And for the rest of the day, Carla fluttered around Sal like a lovesick and very annoying puppy.
Carla, your presence is always welcome with this exception.
Ethan, persist with your moment.
So, it’s confirmed that Sal doesn’t know who Ethan (and, or so we must assume) Amber are.
Carla, I love you girl but your timing stinks. We can deal with your self-esteem issues late. Right now get lost, Ethan and Sal are having a life-critical moment here.
Aw, I like Sal’s faces in panels 1 and 3
I’d say third panel Sal has a “wait, where does this go?” moment with more than a touch of “shit” in it.
That said, Ethan, wow.
Carla, get your ass out of there.
But, this being DOA, probably Ethan will slink off leaving Sal with a vaguely disturbing idea that someone is around who recognizes her from one of her robberies.
Though, don’t we always hear Sal robbed supermarkets and from what I alsways thought and Ethan confirms here: Ethan and Amber were involved with a robbery in a gas station?
Sorry if I’m misreading what you said, but Ethan and Amber WERE involved in Sal’s (attempted) robbery of a gas station. We got the whole flashback eventually.
The point is, we saw lots of flashbacks about Ethan and Amber involved in a robbery at a gas station. It looked like one an Ethan’s words here say so, too.
But from the Sal side of the equation, we only heard of the robbery of, thanks for the correction thejeff, convenience stores.
A gas station is no convenience store in my understanding. I’m not a native speaker, though, so can they be two different words for the same thing?
Gas stations often have a convenience store attached.
Some (but not all) gas stations have convenience stores attached. So it IS a gas station but if you’re not getting gas and you just want to go in the store, you might refer it as a convenience store. (For example, before I stated driving, I’d often walk up to a local gas station to buy candy or something and just called it a store.
Because Amber’s dad had stopped there to get gas, that’s probably why Ethan thinks of it as a gas station. (And in Sal’s case she may have robbed normal convenience stores and at least one attached to a gas station. So “convenience store” describes both)
From an English language standpoint, just call it a gas station regardless of whether or not it has a store attached and you’ll be correct.
hope this helps and didn’t end up being too much information
Ah, ok, so it isn’t the big clue that the stories don’t match.
Thanks:-)
I think it’s normally been referred to as a convenience store. At least from the Walkerton side.
I don’t remember supermarket.
Ugh, I really hope this doesn’t turn into one of those “Psych! You thought you were getting character and plot development, but instead we’re delaying that for some wacky hijinks!” bits.
Because, honestly, I don’t know how much more can be gained by having Sal remain oblivious to Amber and Ethan. It’s a good time for her to learn about it, and maintaining the status quo only really serves one point: Making it Amber who tells Sal instead of Ethan.
And sure, women having agency in critical info about their stories, I’m normally all for that. But Amber’s had that opportunity like fifty times by now, she’s avoided it every time. I think it’s fine for someone else to broach the subject.
Same? This Sal thing’s been dragged out too long. At least the ‘Danny thinks Sal is Amazi-Girl!’ was mercifully brief in comparison.
Also, I’m finding Carla really annoying lately, and she’s doing herself no favours right now.
I agree! Carla has become as annoying as Bloo from Foster’s Home for Imnaginbary Friends. She is selfish, narcisistic and is aware she is a jerk and continues to be.
Willis, I swear if you are weaselling out of that conversation, I will make a point to locate and obliterate your Hot Rod shrine. There will be no survivor.
Obviously, we’re being set up for a twist that it was Carla, with a wig, colored contacts, and blackface, who robbed that gas station so many years ago. Everything else was coincidence and misdirection.
I like your universe. Let’s burn it to the ground.
Carla, we all love you, but please stop.
No, we don’t all love her.
This is why I don’t like Carla. There’s a line between having a healthy sense of self worth and being an insufferably arrogant douchebag and she’s about 17 miles on the wrong side of it and whether or not it’s a facade is kinda irrelevant because it’s goddamn annoying either way.
My issue here isn’t where (or how distant) she is from the line, it’s how she’s clearly interrupting someone’s conversation to make it about a completely different topic. 8/
When people treat you like you’re not even a person sometimes you react by forcing people to acknowledge you. It makes you annoying but that’s part of the point.
I’ve actually known someone with the exact complex Carla has. It’s an exceedingly accurate character.
Realism and accuracy can only make up for a story-derailing nightmare so many times.
For the most part I like Carla. But when she’s this invasive with people who already give her respect and dignity (Seriously? She followed Sal downstairs?), we’ve got a fucking problem.
Is this about Carla trying to get attention because of transphobia? Well, her attempts are empty because nobody likes annoying people that make every issue about themselves.
This is Carla’s jerk persona. Laid on so people will hate for being an asshole, instead of risking that they’ll hate her for being trans.
She’s actually not very good at being an asshole, as we’ve seen many times, but it apparently works on some readers.
Part of the issue now is that she’s not JUST being her usual self, which is the opportunist jerk, in which she’s there and she jerks.
She’s actively chased Sal down to do this. That’s not being a jerk, it’s being a harasser.
She thinks she’s messing around with one of her friends. She has no idea something serious was going to go down.
That’s likely it.
This is something I constantly fail to grasp with a large subset of the readership who post comments here. How is it so difficult to understand that our omniscient awareness and knowledge of what’s going on doesn’t extend to the characters?
Barging in on a private conversation, and chasing sal down because of the stupid jacket, is rude as hell
The difference between a jerk persona and just being a jerk is largely meaningless to the people who have to deal with you.
That’s a problem with that approach.
Though we have seen the jerk facade fall away and seen her care for and help others, which is where the difference really lives.
Generally, transphobia isn’t the ONLY reason somebody is like this. It’s sort of a feedback loop where you’re treated in dehumanizing or exclusionary ways constantly, for various reasons, over the course of your life, and it leads you to – as timemonkey put it – “[force] people to acknowledge you.” It’s an understandable personality quirk psychologically, but of course, it can also easily have the effect of making you even more off-putting, even intentionally so, which can at times exacerbate that mistreatment or isolation.
Speaking of fucking, this drama really got cock blocked.
You, uh, might want to use a different idiom in this particular instance.
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/04-the-whiteboard-dong-bandit/permanent/
DAMN IT Carla!!
FUCK OFF CARLA
I really want sal to dump the jacket in the trash and walk off with Ethan. Or for Ethan to stand up to Carla and try make her leave
I was just about to comment “hahaha I love Carla, she’s the best 5eva” and then scrolled up to see all the haterade
Ah well, even if they have no one else, I will always love Carla and Sarah the most
it’s ok, i love carla too!
I like Carla. She’d probably annoy me in real life, but here we’ve seen through the facade enough for me to get past the minor annoyances.
Some people definitely overreact though.
Same.
Most people in general love Carla? She’s great. This is just one of those moments where, yknow, no one wants the gadfly to do her thing because she’s interrupting something really necessary and that sucks. Don’t read like haterade to me
I did it, I reread all of shortpacked!
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the soggies aren’t quite so funny any more. :/
Rulers seldom are.
*reads alt-text* Except Carla apparently.
Which which genitals does she fantasize fucking this moment with?
Don’t.
Agreed. Do not.
Obviously I fail at the Internet, as I thought the easiest defacing of the jacket Sal could do would be to change “Rutten” to “Rotten”, and yet nobody seems to have posted it yet. Obviously, I just haven’t refreshed my browser enough.
Oh. Kay. This is going as about as well I should’ve thought it would. But, More Carla. So. Good. <3
Aww, Ethan, five years is not a long time ago! No wonder this is all still very raw with y’all. Makes me wonder if Sal will start falling apart, too.