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So True! Wife grew up in the hills of KY and WV, I grew up South Chicago. We now live in KY. Told her first time we went north to visit my family, “You have no idea of flat until we get North of Indy”…She freaked out
Those folks from the hills, gosh, they get so lost in Iowa and Illinois.
Me: “Go North until you get to 12th, go east on 12th til yu get to D, turn north and into the driveway.”
Pennsylvania Pete:North? East? North? How the FUCK DO I KNOW WHICH NORTH IS??? THERE’S NOTHING TO SEE?
“Screw it, I’ll just GPS it.” – Said by me when visiting flatland.
Compass directions are easy enough if the sun is out, and my last few cars have had built in compasses. But I still generally use terrain landmarks in day to day driving, and flatland just doesn’t have that.
I narrowly missed an opportunity to work in a rural area of NJ that is just cornfields everywhere. Instead I ended up with a job two townships over from me that is nothing but hills.
When going for interviews for the other job I got lost while using the gps twice because I forgot to turn and wound up walled in by the cornfields and cow pastures.
I don’t kinow if I still have my “Ski Terre Haute” poster from Rose Hulman. It’s probably in my basement. It’s an iconic poster from the time, just a wee bit less famous than Farrah, at least in Indiana.
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Oh that is Definitely gonna depend on what part of Tennessee. Cuz on my end it’s flat as hell. Farther east you are, however. That’s where biking would be a challenge.
So I guess we can narrow down what part of Tennessee her school was at
The difference between the highest and lowest points in Indiana is roughly 900 feet. I would say that it might have some rolling hills, but it’s pretty dang flat overall, when compared to any mountainous region.
For comparison, Pennsylvania has only middling-tall Appalachian mountains (far from the heights gained at either end of the range), and its height variation is over 3000 feet from highest to lowest point.
Tennessee, on the other hand, has some of the tallest mountains in the greater Appalachian range, and has a height variation of more than 6000 feet.
Therefore, from the perspective of someone used to mountains, Indiana’s hilliest areas are still going to be pretty dang flat.
Seconded, but from someone who grew up in BC. The ‘mountains’ around Vancouver are oft considered ‘foothills’, lil’ bumps to practice on for when you want to really play. Now I live in great-lakes canuck land, and while not the prairies, it’s a joke what people call mountains and valleys around these parts. And I don’t *want* to be a snob about it. But when I want to hike a hill, I expect it to take more than 5 minutes.
Oberlin College is so flat that, when they dug out a new swimming pool, we named the resulting pile of dirt Mt Oberlin and sledded down it on cafeteria trays.
Before the swimming pool, Mt. Oberlin was the name of the pitcher’s mound.
Sometimes I lead, sometimes I follow
This time I’ll go where she wants me to go
Maybe today, maybe tomorrow
Deep in the woods down the long Valley Road… (Bruce Hornsby & The Range)
I mean, as someone with a form of muscular dystrophy I find that the campus has plenty of hills that make bike riding hard for me, but these kids would probably handle them fine enough.
Nothing wrong with it. It’s just that the athletes and coaches for the minor sports, like golf or field hockey, don’t get anywhere near the money and influence that the “real” sports do.
And yet they can’t pay the players because that would make them professionals, instead of students. Even when EA licenses their likenesses for a video game the money still goes to the sport’s governing body and/or school.
I think that Sal is looking for a high spot where she can stand dramatically and gaze down on Bloomington. I suspect that she’s going to have to scale a building to do that.
As a former inhabitant of TN I can verify that mid and east TN have lots of wrinkles of varying depth that make bicycle riding more difficult. I now live in TX where I can ride 60 miles and not go more than 100 feet up or down.
They want to make a challenge together. How cute♡! Surviving peer/parents pressure after they find out they’re together will be their challenge. It will be hard and tiring. I hope their relationship survives.
Mostly, what you need are the long slow murder hills of Oklahoma or the northern part of montana . Oh it looks flat…it’s uphill for 20 miles. steady. Oh and 1 mile in town is nothing.
I remember they used to have “Ski Turkey Mountain” T-Shirts . I also remember watching True Grit and realizing that those were the Rockies not the Ouachita.
my first trip out to the midwest was to visit a friend who lived in Urbana, IL. I flew into Chicago at night, we drove down to Urbana. I marveled at how non-curvy the highway was. My friend took his hands off the wheel and we went for 32 miles before he had to touch the wheel again. This was 1983 or so, self-driving cars didn’t exist.
The next day we went to the mall because I needed stuff. I got out of the car in the parking lot and as far as I could see in 360° around me, was flat Flat FLAT. An utterly impossible vista where I come from. It almost freaked me out, but I think my hangover kept me grounded.
Also the same trip where I discovered White Castle for the first time. A bag of burgers? Really?
I’m from the prairies, where the land around is flat, flat, flat…
When I moved to Ontario in 2019, I was really confused one day when I entered a mall on the ground floor, went down a floor, then exited on the ground floor… wait…
Takes a while to get used to non-level elevation lmao
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yeah, my first college roommate commented on that (from Florida, not sure how she decided on Tennessee)
So True! Wife grew up in the hills of KY and WV, I grew up South Chicago. We now live in KY. Told her first time we went north to visit my family, “You have no idea of flat until we get North of Indy”…She freaked out
Those folks from the hills, gosh, they get so lost in Iowa and Illinois.
Me: “Go North until you get to 12th, go east on 12th til yu get to D, turn north and into the driveway.”
Pennsylvania Pete:North? East? North? How the FUCK DO I KNOW WHICH NORTH IS??? THERE’S NOTHING TO SEE?
“Screw it, I’ll just GPS it.” – Said by me when visiting flatland.
Compass directions are easy enough if the sun is out, and my last few cars have had built in compasses. But I still generally use terrain landmarks in day to day driving, and flatland just doesn’t have that.
I narrowly missed an opportunity to work in a rural area of NJ that is just cornfields everywhere. Instead I ended up with a job two townships over from me that is nothing but hills.
When going for interviews for the other job I got lost while using the gps twice because I forgot to turn and wound up walled in by the cornfields and cow pastures.
Floridian hear, and lemme tell you Midwesterners are OBSESSED with beaches and shorelines.
I don’t kinow if I still have my “Ski Terre Haute” poster from Rose Hulman. It’s probably in my basement. It’s an iconic poster from the time, just a wee bit less famous than Farrah, at least in Indiana.
The spirit of Indiana is the spirit of America, the spirit of what’s boring and what’s flat!
Jaghatai Khan whooping as he speeds off into the horizon over a nice flat road.
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There’s always the mighty mountain of snow by McNutt. Heh, McNutt.
Sadly, I don’t think it’d be very easy to ride a bike up that snow mountain.
It’d be super fun riding down, though.
These two play off one another really well. How sweet.
This was meant to be a regular non winky smile.
Oh that is Definitely gonna depend on what part of Tennessee. Cuz on my end it’s flat as hell. Farther east you are, however. That’s where biking would be a challenge.
So I guess we can narrow down what part of Tennessee her school was at
She just went to that school that everyone’s grandparents attended, so it was uphill both ways.
Depends on what part of Indiana, too. The northern part is pretty flat, but the southern part is noth but hills.
The difference between the highest and lowest points in Indiana is roughly 900 feet. I would say that it might have some rolling hills, but it’s pretty dang flat overall, when compared to any mountainous region.
For comparison, Pennsylvania has only middling-tall Appalachian mountains (far from the heights gained at either end of the range), and its height variation is over 3000 feet from highest to lowest point.
Tennessee, on the other hand, has some of the tallest mountains in the greater Appalachian range, and has a height variation of more than 6000 feet.
Therefore, from the perspective of someone used to mountains, Indiana’s hilliest areas are still going to be pretty dang flat.
Seconded, but from someone who grew up in BC. The ‘mountains’ around Vancouver are oft considered ‘foothills’, lil’ bumps to practice on for when you want to really play. Now I live in great-lakes canuck land, and while not the prairies, it’s a joke what people call mountains and valleys around these parts. And I don’t *want* to be a snob about it. But when I want to hike a hill, I expect it to take more than 5 minutes.
I’m from Calgary. Travelling into south Sask. or Manitoba is *unsettling*. The world is not supposed to be that flat.
Oh seriously? Calgary is pretty darn flat as well, once you get out of the foothills and go east or south.
But yes, in Saskatchewan you can watch your dog run away for 4 days.
Yes, but even then, at least you can *see* the mountains.
“I want to see mountains again, Gandalf, mountains”
Definitely not this one
Follow me
Set me free
Indiana’s flatter than Tennessee-ee…
To the tune of ‘Dance With Me‘ by Orleans
I think this is City Escape from Sonic Adventure 2.
flatness sure is the spirit of indiana, yeah
Oberlin College is so flat that, when they dug out a new swimming pool, we named the resulting pile of dirt Mt Oberlin and sledded down it on cafeteria trays.
Before the swimming pool, Mt. Oberlin was the name of the pitcher’s mound.
I used to work down the street from that place.
Or up the street. Hard to tell without a level.
Damn, that made me laugh. Except it is sad, but it’s true, and that makes it funny!
I used to live across Oberlin’s editions.
Down or up the other continent?
Sometimes I lead, sometimes I follow
This time I’ll go where she wants me to go
Maybe today, maybe tomorrow
Deep in the woods down the long Valley Road… (Bruce Hornsby & The Range)
Fitting.
As usual from you.
Sal’s true mortal enemy – Geography.
An interesting choice of enemy, because how does one defeat geography?
with LASERS
With water and time
With a Death Star
Bulldozer
With maps.
To Jason’s great sorrow, none of those 24 sports is cricket.
And football’s been demoted to soccer.
I mean, as someone with a form of muscular dystrophy I find that the campus has plenty of hills that make bike riding hard for me, but these kids would probably handle them fine enough.
Of course, even I would be fine with the parking lot of the two sports stadiums.
I forget if it’s Indiana or Kansas that is scientifically flatter than a pancake.
Actually, Bloomington is right about where the glaciers stopped so further south in Indiana is actually hilly.
You might be thinking of Head East.
Sal’s plan:
Follow me
Set me free
Trust me
Escape from the city
I may loathe all of the games but even I have to admit that it’s a good song.
“Lead me, follow me or get out of the way.” General Patton. (No relation.)
24 Sports, one team?
So they are pretending that ladies golf is as important as, say, basketball?
When the pretense is convenient for them? Yes.
no they’re saying that the same people play all the sports. it’s a thing.
also what is wrong with ladies’ golf? except for the golf part
Nothing wrong with it. It’s just that the athletes and coaches for the minor sports, like golf or field hockey, don’t get anywhere near the money and influence that the “real” sports do.
I’d guess they’re “one team” when the big budget teams /still/ manage to run out of funds and need to ‘borrow’ from the lower-profile teams.
Good old U.S. college athletics, where the budget for the football team is bigger than the academic budget for the entire school.
And yet they can’t pay the players because that would make them professionals, instead of students. Even when EA licenses their likenesses for a video game the money still goes to the sport’s governing body and/or school.
Nope, no corruption to see here, move along.
Well, Sal, it would seem that your plans of showing off to Danny…
*puts sunglasses on*
…Just fell FLAT!
*YEEEAAAAAHHH!!!*
Flattery will get her nowhere.
It was a cool line, though
I think that Sal is looking for a high spot where she can stand dramatically and gaze down on Bloomington. I suspect that she’s going to have to scale a building to do that.
Garbage Roof!
Well there was a big old snow hill just yesterday, but I guess Walky was hanging out there which makes it less cool
I think that view would be from the top of Ballantine Hall, but she won’t have a key for that.
As a former inhabitant of TN I can verify that mid and east TN have lots of wrinkles of varying depth that make bicycle riding more difficult. I now live in TX where I can ride 60 miles and not go more than 100 feet up or down.
They want to make a challenge together. How cute♡! Surviving peer/parents pressure after they find out they’re together will be their challenge. It will be hard and tiring. I hope their relationship survives.
People have mentioned Linda will be a point of contention, but Sal doesn’t seem like the type to share details of her personal life with Linda.
Linda will find out. Narcissistic parents always find out.
Much easier to do when your cycle has an engine
Sal looks like Asher in 2nd panel.
Bloomington does have some challenging inclines but you have to get off campus. To the north there’s a climb and then rapid descent to some reservoir.
DoA Book 12: This Isn’t Very Hard
That’s what she said.
Somewhere Joe had the sudden urge to blurt out. “That’s what she said”
Mostly, what you need are the long slow murder hills of Oklahoma or the northern part of montana . Oh it looks flat…it’s uphill for 20 miles.
steady. Oh and 1 mile in town is nothing.
I remember they used to have “Ski Turkey Mountain” T-Shirts . I also remember watching True Grit and realizing that those were the Rockies not the Ouachita.
my first trip out to the midwest was to visit a friend who lived in Urbana, IL. I flew into Chicago at night, we drove down to Urbana. I marveled at how non-curvy the highway was. My friend took his hands off the wheel and we went for 32 miles before he had to touch the wheel again. This was 1983 or so, self-driving cars didn’t exist.
The next day we went to the mall because I needed stuff. I got out of the car in the parking lot and as far as I could see in 360° around me, was flat Flat FLAT. An utterly impossible vista where I come from. It almost freaked me out, but I think my hangover kept me grounded.
Also the same trip where I discovered White Castle for the first time. A bag of burgers? Really?
I am 100% INTO Sal doing Wholesome Stuff
I’m from the prairies, where the land around is flat, flat, flat…
When I moved to Ontario in 2019, I was really confused one day when I entered a mall on the ground floor, went down a floor, then exited on the ground floor… wait…
Takes a while to get used to non-level elevation lmao
Yup, when the oldsters talk about walking to school uphill both ways, they aren’t joking.
So the next three days will be silhouettes of them slowly inching across the ginormous parking lot?