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July 11, 2026

Haunting

by David M Willis on January 4, 2022 at 12:01 am
  • 02 – I'll Leave You A Phantom
└ Tags: joe, liz

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  1. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    January 4, 2022 at 12:04 am | #

    has Liz even changed her clothes

    or is she pulling a “my friend who once effectively stayed up the entire convention weekend and just hung out with alternating people and never changed or went to bed”

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      January 4, 2022 at 12:04 am | #

      I think it’s still the same day.

      But clearly enough time has passed that she should be long gone.

      • Thag Simmons
        Thag Simmons
        January 4, 2022 at 12:11 am | #

        Look maybe she took a trip to the Zoo or something.

        Does Bloomington have a Zoo?

        • Jamie
          Jamie
          January 4, 2022 at 12:15 am | #

          Yelp says that it has a bird park.

        • Doctor_Who
          Doctor_Who
          January 4, 2022 at 12:16 am | #

          They have something called…the Elizabeth Sage Historic Costume Collection?

          Yeah, I looked for stuff you might do in the winter, and came up with that. Maybe Liz is into haute couture.

          • Clif
            Clif
            January 4, 2022 at 4:13 am | #

            On the other hand, maybe we’re supposed to understand that she’s hanging out in Dan Akroid’s semi.

            • Decidedly Orthogonal
              Decidedly Orthogonal
              January 4, 2022 at 3:00 pm | #

              His ‘semi’ _what_, though?

              • Delicious Taffy
                Delicious Taffy
                January 4, 2022 at 7:43 pm | #

                His semiautomatic Fleshlight, outfitted with laser sights and a bump stock.

                • Decidedly Orthogonal
                  Decidedly Orthogonal
                  January 4, 2022 at 9:17 pm | #

                  That is a _perfect_ answer with your Grav. 😄

                • Keith Curtis
                  Keith Curtis
                  January 5, 2022 at 12:11 am | #

                  “with a compass on the stock, and this thing that tells time.”

        • The Wellerman
          The Wellerman
          January 4, 2022 at 6:37 am | #

          Seeing a trip to the zoo in this comic would be really fun!

        • Psychie
          Psychie
          January 4, 2022 at 1:07 pm | #

          We do not, in fact, have a zoo.

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        January 4, 2022 at 2:39 am | #

        It’s only about 4:30 or 5:00 PM the day after she showed up. We don’t know where (or if) she slept ‘last night’ after the failed hookup attempt with Joe.

        One all-nighter is doable when you’re college age.

    • Cattleprod
      Cattleprod
      January 4, 2022 at 12:07 am | #

      She’s wearing a coat, so she’d be wearing that over top even if she had changed clothes (I checked her prior appearances, she has that coat and takes it off earlier).

  2. CrimsonStorm
    CrimsonStorm
    January 4, 2022 at 12:06 am | #

    Lol I see that novelty sized mug in the background, Willis. Well played.

    • Regalli
      Regalli
      January 4, 2022 at 12:09 am | #

      It is a convenience store. Makes sense.

    • RassilonTDavros
      RassilonTDavros
      January 4, 2022 at 12:10 am | #

      Oooh, nice catch!

      (for reference)

    • CrimsonStorm
      CrimsonStorm
      January 4, 2022 at 12:11 am | #

      (context: https://www.itswalky.com/comic/hey-dina/)

    • King Daniel
      King Daniel
      January 4, 2022 at 12:13 am | #

      Something the umbrella mouth gulper eel might make use of?

    • Felix
      Felix
      January 4, 2022 at 1:44 am | #

      The big gulp or the XTREEME GULP?

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      January 4, 2022 at 2:44 am | #

      They’re available at gas stations too! 96 ounces (2.84 liters)!

      https://www.dumbingofage.com/2018/comic/book-9-comic/01-flyin-to-the-red/holdup/

    • ValdVin
      ValdVin
      January 4, 2022 at 8:19 am | #

      Doesn’t Chekov’s Xtreeem Gulp require Walky to show up in tomorrow’s strip?

    • Wizard
      Wizard
      January 4, 2022 at 11:50 am | #

      Novelty? Nah, that’s a real thing. They’re actually pretty practical in some situations, such as people who work outdoors and can’t just run to the coffee pot whenever they want a cup. Since the mug is insulated, it can stay warm for quite a while, and filling it up is cheaper than buying multiple small cups.

      • CrimsonStorm
        CrimsonStorm
        January 6, 2022 at 2:53 pm | #

        I’m pretty sure 96 oz (re:Needfuldoer’s link) is big enough to fit *several* coffee pots. 😀

  3. Thag Simmons
    Thag Simmons
    January 4, 2022 at 12:09 am | #

    Not quite as good a freakout as “You! What are you, my harbinger of doom? The beating telltale heart of my foolish indiscretions?” but Joe’s probably not extra enough for that

    • Clif
      Clif
      January 4, 2022 at 4:16 am | #

      How was that not the title of the book?

      • Delavan
        Delavan
        January 4, 2022 at 2:43 pm | #

        Wouldn’t fit on the cover

        • Rabid Rabbit
          Rabid Rabbit
          January 4, 2022 at 3:09 pm | #

          Have you… seen Book 9? That title’s got about 140 characters (not including spaces), while the Joe quote only has about 80. (Yes, I counted. I’m mildly insane that way.)

  4. Sirksome
    Sirksome
    January 4, 2022 at 12:09 am | #

    There was never a ride to Ball State people! Wake up!

    • Rotunda
      Rotunda
      January 4, 2022 at 12:43 am | #

      I endorse this interpretation. The ride keeps appearing and disappearing according to how badly she wants to go or stay.

  5. Nono
    Nono
    January 4, 2022 at 12:10 am | #

    Boy Joe has had a very stressful 24 hours, huh.

    • Sirksome
      Sirksome
      January 4, 2022 at 12:17 am | #

      Eh. Let’s keep this in context. In the last 24 hours he got to make out with and nearly had sex with a very attractive young lady and is still in good enough terms with her that she’s talking to him. To me that’s not really stressful. He’s just terrible at handling his emotions.

      • Thag Simmons
        Thag Simmons
        January 4, 2022 at 12:35 am | #

        And in the process reinforced all his deepest insecurities

      • Yotomoe
        Yotomoe
        January 4, 2022 at 1:16 am | #

        Good things can be stressful too! And if you think making out with a girl isn’t stressful you haven’t done it right. Or maybe I haven’t done it right. Maybe I’m never doing it right. Oh no, what if she hates it and is just too nice to say anything? What if she makes fun of me to her friends later about how bad at kissing I was? Damnit. Oh god my eyes have been open the whole time. I hope she doesn’t open her eyes. Oh god she opened her eyes. Now she sees me staring at her while we’re kissing. Maybe if I blink now she can think that we just happened to open our eyes at the same time. Now she’s gonna think I’m a creep aw jeez. Am I using the right amount of tongue? How much tongue is too much. I think our teeth touched. Should our teeth touch? When do we stop kissing? I want to keep kissing but we’ve been on this kiss for a while and I wanna take a quick break before the next kiss. But what if I end the kiss and she just doesn’t wanna rekiss anymore? What if this is the last kiss I have tonight? Well then I guess I should keep this kiss going as long as possible and hope for the be- oh she’s stopped kissing me.

        What if she stopped kissing me because I was so bad at it?

        • woobie
          woobie
          January 4, 2022 at 1:29 am | #

          That’s pretty normal.

          I had a dance partner leave the floor once because I guess I was <i<that bad at dancing. Nobody noticed- but she knew, and I knew.

        • The Wellerman
          The Wellerman
          January 4, 2022 at 1:35 am | #

          “Good things can be stressful too!”

          TOTALLY with you on this one bruh!

          Yeah it looks like I myself am gonna be holding and diligently re-releasing my anxiety-obsession hose A LOT in my first relationship. (hopefully they’ll also have S.A.D. or at least some other kind of neurodivergence with this particular stripe we can relate to).

      • Tan
        Tan
        January 4, 2022 at 2:10 am | #

        The allosexuals are not okay.

      • Daibhid C
        Daibhid C
        January 4, 2022 at 6:44 am | #

        Others have adressed this specific example, but in general can we knock “I wouldn’t find that stressful, therefore you shouldn’t” on the head?

        (Man, neurotypicals really do have trouble empathising with other people, don’t they?)

        • thakoru
          thakoru
          January 4, 2022 at 8:20 am | #

          Don’t assume.

        • zee
          zee
          January 4, 2022 at 10:35 am | #

          This response and Tans are golden

  6. The Wellerman
    The Wellerman
    January 4, 2022 at 12:12 am | #

    Hey before I go, I just wanna say I’m SO sorry if I caused anyone any stress in the comments section yesterday! 🥺

    • Dana
      Dana
      January 4, 2022 at 12:17 am | #

      I can only speak for myself, but it’s just the comment section of a webcomic. Try not to worry about it. 🙂 I hope all is going well.

    • Yotomoe
      Yotomoe
      January 4, 2022 at 12:34 am | #

      I hope you feel well-er, man

      • The Wellerman
        The Wellerman
        January 4, 2022 at 12:40 am | #

        Thanks Yoto.

        But I’m Genderfluid FYI

        No hard feelings though.

        • Yotomoe
          Yotomoe
          January 4, 2022 at 12:45 am | #

          tbf I was more making a name joke. That and I just use “man” or “dude” pretty interchangeably with any gender but if you ain’t into it I’ll keep it in mind.

          • The Wellerman
            The Wellerman
            January 4, 2022 at 12:48 am | #

            Pun was kinda neat, i guess

            I’m OK with “Dude”, and if you click my name you can see the rest of my preferred pronouns 🙂

            • a/snow/mous/e
              a/snow/mous/e
              January 4, 2022 at 8:16 am | #

              “kinda neat, i guess”? don’t listen yoto it was hilarious imo 😛

    • newlland(Henryvolt)
      newlland(Henryvolt)
      January 4, 2022 at 2:33 am | #

      Didn’t know there was any drama yesterday, but I wouldn’t worry about it usually we all have a heated conversation here once every blue moon and we move on from it by the next day.

      • The Wellerman
        The Wellerman
        January 4, 2022 at 2:38 am | #

        Yeah I get that but I was kinda talking about the ones where I was worried about coming off as calling others out on their anxieties and being socially challenged. I definitely didn’t mean to, and again I’m really sorry if I offended any of you!

        • davidbreslin101
          davidbreslin101
          January 4, 2022 at 2:43 pm | #

          I think you just caused yourself social anxiety by talking about about social anxiety…. it happens. I can relate to that! [briefly panics, then hits “post comment.”]

          • The Wellerman
            The Wellerman
            January 4, 2022 at 4:32 pm | #

            Yeah I know. As straining as it is for me, I really just people to understand me after so many years of being misunderstood, so unless I share I obsess on the possibility of people making hurtful assumptions about me, which is even MORE stressful 😥

            Online interaction like this is not nearly as stressful as in-person though, but I still worry when I’m met with awkward silence, wondering if I guessed wrong at a “””social cue”” or if I said something that upset someone.

            I just wanted to see if I could better relate to the social challenges and anxiety complexes that some of you have, and I really thank you for trying to relate here 🥲

            • The Wellerman
              The Wellerman
              January 4, 2022 at 4:43 pm | #

              Also, SO sorry for the double post, but really wanting people not to fill in the blanks with hurtful stuff is also why I use seemingly excessive amounts of emojis.

              (I’m just SO grateful I can make THESE faces WITHOUT exhausting a ton of my brain’s energy 🥲)

    • Amós Batista
      Amós Batista
      January 4, 2022 at 5:46 am | #

      Don’t worry about it. I think you haven’t stressed anyone.

    • Keulen
      Keulen
      January 4, 2022 at 9:01 am | #

      I don’t think you caused stress. At least none that I noticed.

    • Deadjolras
      Deadjolras
      January 4, 2022 at 3:55 pm | #

      Pretty sure you’re only causing yourself stress. Which is relatable.

      • The Wellerman
        The Wellerman
        January 4, 2022 at 4:06 pm | #

        Well, I know you mean no malicious intent, but I personally have come to read “cause yourself stress” as rather insensitive because of what I’ve been through.

        All I really wanted was to try to better relate to others around here who also suffer from similar social challenges and anxiety complexes.

        • Deadjolras
          Deadjolras
          January 4, 2022 at 4:40 pm | #

          I get that. I’m sorry for my wording.

          • The Wellerman
            The Wellerman
            January 4, 2022 at 4:51 pm | #

            Thanks, it’s better now. At least by a little bit, anyway.

            Also, thank you for trying to relate. That means a lot.

  7. King Daniel
    King Daniel
    January 4, 2022 at 12:14 am | #

    “Sexual Haunting” is the name of my next Civ 6 rock band

  8. Suet
    Suet
    January 4, 2022 at 12:15 am | #

    *gets the proton pack for Dan Aykroyd* No.

    Dan (or Jon Hamm) could have been starred as Joe but, still, no.

  9. LiterallyJustSomeGuy
    LiterallyJustSomeGuy
    January 4, 2022 at 12:20 am | #

    I was beaten to the punch commenting on the X-TREEEM GULP, so, uh… “Why aren’t you meeting me at my level of freaking out?!” seems like a very Joyce thing.

    • BarerMender
      BarerMender
      January 4, 2022 at 1:31 am | #

      Also a good title for the next book.

    • miz
      miz
      January 4, 2022 at 1:51 am | #

      it is very much a Joyce thing: https://www.dumbingofage.com/2021/comic/book-11/02-look-straight-ahead/joycelifeevents/

  10. Jonah Sanville
    Jonah Sanville
    January 4, 2022 at 12:24 am | #

    joes got an X-TREEEM dose of anxiety rn

  11. Bunny
    Bunny
    January 4, 2022 at 12:27 am | #

    Naw, Sis. The actual haunting is going on in front of the soda cooler.

    • Delicious Taffy
      Delicious Taffy
      January 4, 2022 at 4:01 am | #

      Amber’s making those sodas really uncomfortable right now.

      • Keulen
        Keulen
        January 4, 2022 at 8:53 am | #

        They know what they did.

  12. newlland(Henryvolt)
    newlland(Henryvolt)
    January 4, 2022 at 12:27 am | #

    As much as I find that last panel funny as hell and I still somehow like Liz, I feel like she’s blowing a lot of money on bus fair if she keeps missing her rides like this.

    • Clif
      Clif
      January 4, 2022 at 4:20 am | #

      Well, but not until she actually leaves.

  13. Kravis
    Kravis
    January 4, 2022 at 12:28 am | #

    Hot in a hot kind of way or hot in a “Beverly Crusher’s grandma’s horny ghost” kind of way?

  14. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    January 4, 2022 at 12:33 am | #

    FINE, I get the subtext. You want me to draw Liz as a sexy ghost. You don’t have to tell me twice.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      January 4, 2022 at 2:45 am | #

      You mean you haven’t already?

    • Delicious Taffy
      Delicious Taffy
      January 4, 2022 at 3:01 am | #

      A sexy ghost? Never heard the like.

    • Lingo
      Lingo
      January 4, 2022 at 11:41 pm | #

      “Oh, a Ghost Foursome! I’ve done that.”

      • The Wellerman
        The Wellerman
        January 5, 2022 at 12:03 am | #

        What HASN’T Joe done?

  15. Lingo
    Lingo
    January 4, 2022 at 12:34 am | #

    Hmm, okay, so we’ve got a tall Jewish boy, a black woman with curly hair, and an Amber having a social freakout. What could possibly go wrong?

    • Yotomoe
      Yotomoe
      January 4, 2022 at 12:37 am | #

      This sounds like the setup to a bar joke.

      • Delicious Taffy
        Delicious Taffy
        January 4, 2022 at 3:54 am | #

        “A Jewish guy, a black lady, and a white chick with issues walk into a convenience store. Now, I know what you’re thinking and you’re right. This is weird premise for a joke.”

    • woobie
      woobie
      January 4, 2022 at 1:31 am | #

      Joe is a boy, Liz is a woman?

      • Clif
        Clif
        January 4, 2022 at 4:29 am | #

        Sounds about right to me.

      • DudeMyDadOwnsaDealership
        DudeMyDadOwnsaDealership
        January 4, 2022 at 1:17 pm | #

        I wouldn’t call Liz something to imply she was somehow more mature a person of her gender than Joe at this point, but yeah I guess?

      • Lingo
        Lingo
        January 4, 2022 at 11:31 pm | #

        Yeah I was unintentionally inconsistent there. Was comparing Joe to Ethan, and Liz to Sal — but Sal was of course a girl at the time.

    • Thag Simmons
      Thag Simmons
      January 4, 2022 at 3:27 am | #

      There’s no knife in the picture, so it can’t go that specific flavour of wrong again

      • Delicious Taffy
        Delicious Taffy
        January 4, 2022 at 3:54 am | #

        They’re always lurking, just off-screen.

      • Clif
        Clif
        January 4, 2022 at 4:28 am | #

        Have you ever been stabbed in the hand with a soda can?

        • Delicious Taffy
          Delicious Taffy
          January 4, 2022 at 7:45 pm | #

          Before or after it’s been dranked?

      • Lingo
        Lingo
        January 4, 2022 at 11:32 pm | #

        I imagine there are plastic knives around….
        But more seriously, I was thinking Amber might launch a pre-emptive attack this time around.

  16. Rabbit
    Rabbit
    January 4, 2022 at 12:36 am | #

    I feel like Willis is winding up to add Liz to our roster indefinitely

    and i don’t know if I like her enough for that. Yet. So far she’s mostly been part of the catalyst of the Joyce Events + Joe events. She’s super duper cute in design but

    she feels like a plot device. a bit.

    • Yotomoe
      Yotomoe
      January 4, 2022 at 12:40 am | #

      She’s here to continue to not have sex with Joe. She brings up sex with Joe but only to remind Joe and the audience that she will not be having sex with Joe. And that she is getting a bus. She’s here to not bang Joe and also get on buses that never come. Speaking of not coming, Joe Rosenthal!

      • Sirksome
        Sirksome
        January 4, 2022 at 8:05 am | #

        Unlike other characters who will not have sex with Joe, Liz almost had sex with Joe. This is important because it tortures Joe knowing that sex was a possibility but not anymore. You know what isn’t a possibility? This ride. Because it doesn’t exist. Speaking of rides, Liz didn’t get to ride Joe…or maybe Joe didn’t get to ride Liz. I’m not sure how that metaphor really applies. It was a metaphor for sex by the way. Y’know the thing Joe’s didn’t have with Liz? That’s why she’s here by the way. To remind Joe about the sex they will not be having.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      January 4, 2022 at 2:47 am | #

      When she was introduced, I honestly thought she was going to be a one-and-done character who was introduced to drop a drama bomb on the plot, burn some bridges, and skedaddle. This is already a lot more Liz than I expected we’d get.

      • Sirksome
        Sirksome
        January 4, 2022 at 8:12 am | #

        I can actually see her transferring to main cast status now. Especially since she’s started establishing a connection to multiple characters now. It’s not just Joyce and Sarah now. It’s Joyce, Sarah, Joe, Amber, Becky, Dorothy, and even Dina is aware of her. It’s a lot more story potential than a one-off character would usually get. I wouldn’t be surprised if a Ball State transfer happens.

        • Seregiel
          Seregiel
          January 4, 2022 at 7:23 pm | #

          I got Becky vibes and she’s running away from something.

    • DudeMyDadOwnsaDealership
      DudeMyDadOwnsaDealership
      January 4, 2022 at 1:48 pm | #

      I’m getting the impression her flaky behavior up to this point is because she’s about ready to have a meltdown due to some drama back at her school….And given her family’s knack for neurosis, this is how she deals with it: By trying to distract herself and avoid facing it until it all boils up to the surface…..

  17. Carla's #2 Fan
    Carla's #2 Fan
    January 4, 2022 at 12:37 am | #

    This is really harshing my JoexJoyce

    • Yotomoe
      Yotomoe
      January 4, 2022 at 12:42 am | #

      I still believe JoexJoyce is endgame. And while I don’t think it is at ALL possible, JoycexJoexLiz makes me happy. To be fair I just want all the characters hook up.

      • Mewzard
        Mewzard
        January 4, 2022 at 3:50 am | #

        I respect your endgame, but I’m still super holding out on JoycexDorothy. But JoexJoyce would at least be interesting.

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          January 4, 2022 at 6:37 am | #

          Fine. We can work with that.

          DorothyxJoycexJoexLiz

  18. DailyBrad
    DailyBrad
    January 4, 2022 at 12:40 am | #

    Liz is really cute, but yeah, how is she this bad at getting back to her school?

    • Yotomoe
      Yotomoe
      January 4, 2022 at 12:43 am | #

      What we don’t know is the Campus is actually at Rock Bottom and the only way home is to catch a bus or run up a 90 degree angle.

      • Segnosaur
        Segnosaur
        January 4, 2022 at 10:02 am | #

        Well, we saw in an earlier comic that Walky thought his campus was an “Escher Print”….Maybe that’s why Liz is trapped there.

        https://www.dumbingofage.com/2010/comic/book-1/02-uphill-from-here/escher/

    • Thag Simmons
      Thag Simmons
      January 4, 2022 at 12:46 am | #

      Bad sense of direction maybe

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      January 4, 2022 at 2:35 am | #

      Well, she’d have to actually want to go back first…

    • Kavonde
      Kavonde
      January 4, 2022 at 3:04 am | #

      Perhaps it’s a bit of a Becky situation. She dropped or flunked out, and for whatever reason, she thinks hanging around until Sarah catches her will be less awkward than fessing up to her folks.

      • alongcameaspider
        alongcameaspider
        January 4, 2022 at 1:16 pm | #

        I wonder if her Atheism was somehow outed to her religious parent and said parent was the one paying for her to go to college

    • Keulen
      Keulen
      January 4, 2022 at 9:00 am | #

      I’m starting to wonder if she actually intended to go back at all.

  19. RacingTurtle
    RacingTurtle
    January 4, 2022 at 12:41 am | #

    Don’t try it, you two

    I was somewhat supportive of Hookup Attempt #1, albeit with some concerns. If Hookup Attempt #2 occurs, I will facepalm so hard I’ll have to go into concussion protocol

    • Rani
      Rani
      January 4, 2022 at 12:49 am | #

      Honestly, I’d welcome a few facepalms over the drinking game I’ve made out of the crazier patterns in the cast lol

    • BarerMender
      BarerMender
      January 4, 2022 at 1:45 am | #

      Unless Liz gets the key to the restroom and takes Joe with her. I’m down for that.

      • Delicious Taffy
        Delicious Taffy
        January 4, 2022 at 7:48 pm | #

        Sometimes you just have to get absolutely nasty in a public bathroom. The employees aren’t getting paid enough to make sure your stank doesn’t get all over the next person to go in there, so they probably won’t care very much.

        • Rani
          Rani
          January 4, 2022 at 10:31 pm | #

          Especially if you’re among the employees

  20. Catullus
    Catullus
    January 4, 2022 at 12:41 am | #

    With the number of times Liz has happened to Not Leave, it makes me wonder if she’s planning to go back to Ball State at all. I’m curious to find out what exactly is going on with her.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      January 4, 2022 at 2:33 am | #

      Sounds like Sarah’s the focus of the next chapter, we’ll probably find out then.

    • DudeMyDadOwnsaDealership
      DudeMyDadOwnsaDealership
      January 4, 2022 at 1:50 pm | #

      Yep…Something’s up.

  21. BBCC
    BBCC
    January 4, 2022 at 12:44 am | #

    Hi, Liz! Glad you’re both into this haunting thing. XD

  22. Rainhat
    Rainhat
    January 4, 2022 at 12:46 am | #

    r is she pulling a “my friend who once effectively stayed up the entire convention weekend and just hung out with alternating people and never changed or went to bed”

    Man, I miss having that sort of energy. And conventions. And my friends.

    (Okay, I’m going to go lie down for a bit. That went directions I didn’t expect. 🙂 )

  23. James
    James
    January 4, 2022 at 12:58 am | #

    I really hate that I understood the alt text immediately.

  24. Mr. Random
    Mr. Random
    January 4, 2022 at 1:10 am | #

    I’m starting to wonder if she got kicked out or dropped out and is too scared to tell her anyone remotely connected to her “hardworking on the road to success” sister.

    • Black
      Black
      January 4, 2022 at 9:44 pm | #

      Yeah, I too find myself wondering what the fuck is going on and why she’s still around.

      Your theory definitely sounds plausible, maybe came to visit her sister because it was easier than going home to face the music.

  25. drs
    drs
    January 4, 2022 at 1:20 am | #

    No one commented Joe’s choice of “friend” for Amber? Vs. sister?

    Could we remotely say that they were friends before their parents married?

    • AGV
      AGV
      January 4, 2022 at 4:59 am | #

      Could be, but I don’t think that it has any major implications

    • Regalli
      Regalli
      January 4, 2022 at 10:18 am | #

      Could just be ‘explaining that our parents got married like two months ago after meeting during Freshman Family Weekend and I expect this to fall apart messily at any point is way too involved for a friend’s sister at a convenience store.’

  26. Proto
    Proto
    January 4, 2022 at 1:20 am | #

    The last time this whole “never going back to their school” thing happened it’s because Becky dropped out/was kicked out of her school and was on the run from her dad. WHAT DARK SECRET ARE YOU HIDING, LIZ?

    • King Daniel
      King Daniel
      January 4, 2022 at 1:28 am | #

      She hung the toilet paper roll the wrong way back at Ball State, and fled for fear of being found out.

      • Delicious Taffy
        Delicious Taffy
        January 4, 2022 at 9:31 am | #

        So what you’re saying is, she’s a terrorist and needs to be brought in at all costs to society.

      • Seregiel
        Seregiel
        January 4, 2022 at 7:26 pm | #

        Right way is subjective based on household pets… like cats and ferrets.

        • Delicious Taffy
          Delicious Taffy
          January 4, 2022 at 7:53 pm | #

          If you have a cat, there’s no predicting what that little monster will do next. I’ve had cats who liked to just tear up the entire roll to the point of being unusable before, regardless of how said roll was placed. Underhand, overhand, on the counter, on the back of the toilet, under the sink, stacked vertically, it didn’t matter. Not even a closed door will stop a cat whose sole mission in life is to make sure your butt isn’t quite clean enough.

  27. Bicycle Bill
    Bicycle Bill
    January 4, 2022 at 1:21 am | #

    Under the category of “Willis really does his homework”, I’ve pinned down this particular convenience store as the Village Pantry at the corner of S. Jordan and 3rd Street, about a block west of Galasso’s/Mama Bear’s.  And they sell their fountain drinks under as “Gulps”, and the Xtreme Gulp (like Joe is standing alongside of) does come in a red reusable cup…

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      January 4, 2022 at 2:24 am | #

      But does it come in an X-TREEEEM size?

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        January 4, 2022 at 2:36 am | #

        *looks closer*

        It is!

        (Note to self: coffee first, then comments.)

    • David M Willis
      David M Willis
      January 4, 2022 at 10:31 am | #

      The exterior is from Bloomington, but the interior is from photo reference I took at my local Circle K because I haven’t been to Bloomington in two years because of Obvious Reasons.

  28. brute
    brute
    January 4, 2022 at 1:32 am | #

    i didn’t understand how that was hot and then i remembered about goths, and I hope that’s the direction liz takes tbh. we could use more goths in the cast.

    • Delicious Taffy
      Delicious Taffy
      January 4, 2022 at 3:03 am | #

      Yes goth please

      • The Wellerman
        The Wellerman
        January 4, 2022 at 4:09 am | #

        Be careful what you wish for.

        Emothan may look hot on the outside, but he’s deliberately toxic on the inside. Plus if Amber gets the impression that she can “make” people hot like him, she might be willing to BREAK others to see it happen.

        • Delicious Taffy
          Delicious Taffy
          January 4, 2022 at 4:16 am | #

          That’s a valid point. In the words of Thanos, who we all know is a moral paragon of good, “Fine. I’ll do it myself.”

        • Daibhid C
          Daibhid C
          January 4, 2022 at 6:39 am | #

          Goth and emo aren’t the same thing.

          I would like to elaborate on this, but I’m generally clueless about subcultures, so I can’t. I’ve definitely heard it stated repeatedly, though.

          • Rabbit
            Rabbit
            January 4, 2022 at 9:08 am | #

            Goths and emo are different.

            Goth culture is rooted in Goth music from the 80’s.

            Emo culture has roots in Emo music starting in the 1990s.

            Both are based in post-punk, with Goth having more initially morose, nihilistic energy in it’s music and carrying into its aesthetic, as well as critiquing more of society At Large, whereas Emo was more deeply emotionally charged and carried more introspection and lamentation on ones feelings.

            • davidbreslin101
              davidbreslin101
              January 4, 2022 at 2:46 pm | #

              The timeline is confused a bit by John Dowland, an emo singer-songwriter who travelled back in time to the 16th century.

            • Delicious Taffy
              Delicious Taffy
              January 4, 2022 at 8:01 pm | #

              The difference is that a goth will share their weed and watch old horror movies with you, while an emo will show up to movie night blitzed out on K2 with one of those VHS tapes you can record stuff on, except they forgot to record anything and also just realized they’re not wearing underpants. Unless that’s not universal, in which maybe bring a warding charm of some kind to movie nights, just in case.

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        January 4, 2022 at 5:19 am | #

        That explains your new Player 2 Pallet Swap Ruth gravatar!

        • The Wellerman
          The Wellerman
          January 4, 2022 at 5:51 am | #

          Speaking of color pallete swaps, funny story.

          Yesterday I was tweaking the colors of my avatar till they felt right to me, and then the day later I was scrolling through a game mod wiki and found a character who’s colors were based on the Bi and NB flags.

          I thought that was interesting and then I scrolled the comments section and began noticing that some of you have flags like that in the background too, and also that some characters color schemes were based on those flags too, like Becky’s colors being based on the Lesbian flag!

          I thought this was all really cool, and it inspired me to find the genderfluid flag and incorporate its colors into my avatar! But just when I was adding them in the background, I took a closer look and realized that I had ALREADY used all five colors of the Genderfluid flag completely by accident!!! 😆

          Pretty funny huh?

        • Delicious Taffy
          Delicious Taffy
          January 4, 2022 at 6:17 am | #

          If I could put Ruth in Super Smash Bros., I would.

  29. Bagge
    Bagge
    January 4, 2022 at 1:38 am | #

    It is, a little.

  30. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    January 4, 2022 at 2:09 am | #

    going up someone saying “come help my friend’s neuroses” seems like a very screwing way to approach the problem, or is it just me ?

    • AGV
      AGV
      January 4, 2022 at 5:02 am | #

      It’s dismissive, but maybe also a way to make it more approachable

    • Rabid Rabbit
      Rabid Rabbit
      January 4, 2022 at 3:29 pm | #

      It’s a bad way of phrasing it, but the basic instinct is all right — “Hey, it’s not your fault you’re involved, but my friend’s having a panic attack, could you help me defuse it?” And even then, phrasing it as Joe does gives Liz (assuming she actually was some random person) an out, in that she can could how seriously to take it. If she’s hugely empathic, she can go “OMG that’s terrible here let me help…” If she’s not, she can roll her eyes and tell Joe that his friend should get over herself. If she’s Booster, they can go “Ooh, a new case study!” And so on.

      As ever, Joe is a Hufflepuff who believes he’s a Slytherin (and sort of wants to be one). The Hufflepuffness will out, but he’s not very good at it yet.

  31. Needfuldoer
    Needfuldoer
    January 4, 2022 at 2:23 am | #

    “Meet me at my level of freaking out” sounds like a Joyce thing. They really are more alike than they realize!

    https://www.dumbingofage.com/2021/comic/book-11/02-look-straight-ahead/joycelifeevents/

    • Amós Batista
      Amós Batista
      January 4, 2022 at 5:28 am | #

      Oh no. Willis’s starting synchronizing his feelings to make a romantic ark with Joyce.

    • Spencer
      Spencer
      January 4, 2022 at 3:18 pm | #

      *Adds it to The List*

  32. PiotrW
    PiotrW
    January 4, 2022 at 3:05 am | #

    Joe raised a good point – she’s still here?

    I smell a mystery… *Ralph Dibny’s nose is twitching*

  33. Rabisch
    Rabisch
    January 4, 2022 at 5:04 am | #

    Liz is haunting Joe AND the campus. Why she’s doing this is unknown, but it begins to become creepy. But c’mon Joe, introduce your sister to her. I’m sure Amber would be able to help you to make Liz leave once for all.

  34. Sombrero
    Sombrero
    January 4, 2022 at 5:49 am | #

    Hmm… so the phantom of the storyline is Liz, the ghost maiden forever haunting IU campus?

    • Eldritchy
      Eldritchy
      January 4, 2022 at 5:59 am | #

      Somehow this strip made me think of that Bill Cosby movie where he died and haunted his kids…

      • Delicious Taffy
        Delicious Taffy
        January 4, 2022 at 6:18 am | #

        The Fat Albert movie?

        • Eldritchy
          Eldritchy
          January 4, 2022 at 6:37 am | #

          No, I think the title was Ghost Dad.

    • Ellegos
      Ellegos
      January 4, 2022 at 10:37 am | #

      And here I thought Mike was the phantom.

      We have an abundance of phantoms.

      • King Daniel
        King Daniel
        January 4, 2022 at 2:03 pm | #

        You might even call it a phantom menace

  35. JepMZ
    JepMZ
    January 4, 2022 at 8:29 am | #

    I it just me or does Liz come off as a shallow blonde?

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      January 4, 2022 at 11:16 am | #

      Just you, I think.

      Or more accurately, she may be trying to come off that way, but I think there’s something deeper going on. She’s definitely been posing as far more worldy and experienced than she actually is, while covering up a lot of inner doubts.

      And Joe’s not wrong about something being up with her not leaving.

  36. ValdVin
    ValdVin
    January 4, 2022 at 8:48 am | #

    Okay, maybe I’m not paying close enough attention (I know–I’m a bad fan!), but only with this strip did I realize Joe didn’t know it was Liz at the store.

    • Axel_Grease
      Axel_Grease
      January 4, 2022 at 12:28 pm | #

      It does seem a bit off since she presumably walked by him when he was standing by the entrance. Or she was already in this small store and he somehow failed to notice her when he came in.

  37. Keulen
    Keulen
    January 4, 2022 at 9:07 am | #

    The last panel and alt text made me think of this song.

  38. Jabberwocky
    Jabberwocky
    January 4, 2022 at 9:54 am | #

    Interesting that Joe refers to Amber as “friend” rather than “stepsister” or “sister,” especially so since she just referred to him as her brother.

    • RedCat
      RedCat
      January 4, 2022 at 12:04 pm | #

      Seems easier, since they don’t really look alike, and people might get confused, or wonder why.

    • Seregiel
      Seregiel
      January 4, 2022 at 7:31 pm | #

      To me it came off as do your newly minted “family” obligations thing vs Joe doing a more generous bestowing of “I will actually call you a friend now.” Especially since her family includes the estranged Faz while he has actively come to her for emotional advice before this.

  39. egg egg
    egg egg
    January 4, 2022 at 10:12 am | #

    Joe is asking the real questions. Liz, are you the new Becky??? Where are you sleeping???

  40. Roe
    Roe
    January 4, 2022 at 12:38 pm | #

    ok I ship it now

  41. Ragingagnostic
    Ragingagnostic
    January 4, 2022 at 5:47 pm | #

    I say haunting, you say stalking. Same difference.

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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
trying to voice recognition a search for superman's actor
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Drivaaar @drivaaar.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
I want YOU to transform Autobot City (with generous green spaces, affordable public transport and amenities, and plentiful social initiatives)
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
welp back to drawing comics featuring a character you can't see yet for like 11 months
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