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September 18, 2023

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by David M Willis on December 23, 2022 at 12:01 am
  • 02 – Turning Saints Into the Sea

└ Tags: lucy, walky

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  1. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    December 23, 2022 at 12:03 am | #

    Farmer: “Walky, WTF”

    Snake: “YOU KNEW MY NATURE”

  2. CitrineMonster
    CitrineMonster
    December 23, 2022 at 12:04 am | #

    Walky just doesnt really seem to enjoy dating lucy.

    • Jenniffniff
      Jenniffniff
      December 23, 2022 at 12:23 am | #

      And everyone else notices except her ☹️

      • Pylgrim
        Pylgrim
        December 23, 2022 at 6:42 am | #

        I’m literally cringing all the time. Please let it end. Neither character deserves this.

    • pope suburban
      pope suburban
      December 23, 2022 at 1:47 am | #

      Yeah like…I wanted to believe in this. I really did. Lucy had started to grow on me. But the same does not seem to be true for Walky, and honestly some of the things she’s done have given me pause. She’s a fine person but taking this way too quickly. I don’t see a happy ending for her with Walky; they seem to want different things.

    • Arawn
      Arawn
      December 23, 2022 at 3:02 am | #

      I think he genuinely likes things about her but he’s definitely got an allergy to the more serious parts of intimacy and relationships. He’s probably also dealing with some emotional stuff from his past 2 relationships and he’s not emotionally intelligent enough to sort them out.

      • Wereg
        Wereg
        December 23, 2022 at 3:31 am | #

        Allergy or not, they’ve been dating for a very short period of time and it’s entirely reasonable for him to be uncomfortable with the rate Lucy seems to be wanting to move

        • Vukodlak
          Vukodlak
          December 23, 2022 at 6:57 am | #

          Yeah it may seem weird to have a story arc where the guy wants to take things slow and the girl is ready to mount him right away. Its actually pretty understanding that Walky would want a more casual relationship after the seriousness of the last two.

          • Nicoleandmaggie
            Nicoleandmaggie
            December 23, 2022 at 8:15 am | #

            In reality though it’s really not that weird. It’s just weird in the land of tropes.

            Part of our “the talk” is going to include (along with the tea video on consent) that it is 100% ok for boys to say no and to not be ready too.

            • Nicoleandmaggie
              Nicoleandmaggie
              December 23, 2022 at 8:17 am | #

              Oh! And the third date thing is also a trope! Just realized part of Lucy’s thing is that she mentally lives in a trope world and Dumbing of Age is more reality based (toe dad and mafia not withstanding).

              Willis is brilliant. OMG.

        • Zaxares
          Zaxares
          December 24, 2022 at 6:18 am | #

          While that’s true, we also need to remember that Walky didn’t have much trouble hopping into the sack with Dorothy after a relatively short period of time too. I think the more likely conclusion is that, while Walky DOES like Lucy, he may not be very attracted to her physically. (It doesn’t have to be a looks thing either. You can find somebody beautiful yet not want to have sex with them. Physical attraction is kinda weird that way.)

          • thejeff
            thejeff
            December 24, 2022 at 10:26 am | #

            Or he’d be fine with doing sexy things with Lucy, but he’s currently too freaked out by her declaration of love.

  3. Johan
    Johan
    December 23, 2022 at 12:05 am | #

    The hell is communication?

    • Stu
      Stu
      December 23, 2022 at 10:52 am | #

      Well, this IS Walky, he of “I GIVE TO YOU!!!!” flirting.

      • Stu
        Stu
        December 23, 2022 at 10:53 am | #

        My apologies, it’s actually “I GIVE IT TO YOU” https://www.dumbingofage.com/2010/comic/book-1/02-uphill-from-here/throw/

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        December 23, 2022 at 11:34 am | #

        Though in this case, it’s Lucy who screwed up the communication by misreading a perfectly normal thing Walky said. Now he’s got to figure out how to fix it without crushing her, which isn’t going to be easy.

  4. Yumi
    Yumi
    December 23, 2022 at 12:05 am | #

    But, Walky, you’re Sal’s brother! Any date you go on is going to involve somebody’s brother.

    • Dana
      Dana
      December 23, 2022 at 12:06 am | #

      Beat me to the punch.

  5. Sirksome
    Sirksome
    December 23, 2022 at 12:05 am | #

    I think Lucy just offered some good old fashioned grab ass and Walky doesn’t care. Ouch.

    • anon
      anon
      December 23, 2022 at 12:28 am | #

      i mean he said ‘corpse of fortress of solitude’ so i thought that was him saying goodbye/celebrating it in a way? but comic aside i suppose it would be awkward if he had spent 5 mins in silence climbing up

      • Perdellian
        Perdellian
        December 23, 2022 at 1:59 am | #

        I think the corpse bit is a reference the snow hill melting

    • Yotomoe
      Yotomoe
      December 23, 2022 at 1:00 am | #

      I prefer good old fashioned grab ass to the modern, updated grab ass. Grab ass was perfect, they never needed to come out with a reboot.

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        December 23, 2022 at 5:18 am | #

        “I used to be ‘with it’, then they changed what ‘it’ was!”

      • Kyoulkoa
        Kyoulkoa
        December 23, 2022 at 3:39 pm | #

        Slapass!

      • Aura
        Aura
        December 30, 2022 at 6:27 am | #

        *rebooty

        No? No? ok

    • Tan
      Tan
      December 23, 2022 at 5:58 am | #

      I don’t think Walky doesn’t care. I think Walky is very much associating this offer with Lucy’s extremely-premature-to-him “I love you” (probably accurately), which gives him a choice to either take advantage of a misunderstanding to get some that means something a lot more to her than it does to him, or have a serious feelings conversation that is going to hurt Lucy, or avoid. As in most things, Walky chooses avoid.

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        December 23, 2022 at 8:50 am | #

        Yeah, “doesn’t care” is way off base – unless you believe that’s the only reason a guy could turn down sex. He’s still thrown by her misreading of his casual “what I love about you”. That’s going to be a real awkward conversation to have. “I don’t love you” is much harder to deal with than just not saying it yet. Or even than not saying it back. Even with a “yet” at the end of it.

      • Sirksome
        Sirksome
        December 23, 2022 at 12:52 pm | #

        ‘Doesn’t care.” Is probably a bit harsh, but my comment was meant to be more humorous than a serious analysis of the situation. That being said it is probably a sign of his feelings for Lucy (if he has much of any) being nowhere near as strong as hers are for him if he’s ignoring her attempts at seduction. I honestly believe they would not be dating yet if Dorothy hadn’t stepped in.

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          December 23, 2022 at 2:37 pm | #

          I think it was pretty clear that his feelings aren’t as strong as her from his reaction to her declaration of love. But that seems to me more of a problem with her than him – at least a week into the relationship.

          I suspect his reaction to the seduction attempt would different without that context.

    • Azhrei Vep
      Azhrei Vep
      December 23, 2022 at 7:39 am | #

      I’m not entirely sure Walky even heard the grabass offer. I think he started climbing as soon as he was off-panel.

  6. Stephen Bierce
    Stephen Bierce
    December 23, 2022 at 12:06 am | #

    *plays Styx’s “Snow Blind” on the radio of a passing car*

    • Decidedly Orthogonal
      Decidedly Orthogonal
      December 23, 2022 at 10:51 am | #

      What’s the timestamp/range of the Doppler effect? (do we get a secret “Wah-wah” embedded in the song due to its method of presentation?)

  7. Joy
    Joy
    December 23, 2022 at 12:06 am | #

    Lucy’s that girlfriend that moves way too fast. She’s such a nice person, but…

    • Nova
      Nova
      December 23, 2022 at 12:15 am | #

      I mean, she’s moving at her own speed, she just needs a partner who moves that quickly too and she’ll be fine.

      Being incompatible with someone doesn’t mean there’s something wrong with her.

      • Johan
        Johan
        December 23, 2022 at 12:35 am | #

        It’s argue she isn’t moving that quickly considering she was “dating” Walky without him knowing for a couple months.

        He just hasn’t caught up

    • anon
      anon
      December 23, 2022 at 12:33 am | #

      it seems like she’s willing to do some stuff that isn’t necessarily sex but overall that ‘third date’ stuff always seemed rush to me esp at a younger age (would zillenial/gen z kids even know about that ‘tradition’ to begin with [tho other than having been friends for years or so, it seems even faster if it was like a blind date or matching through tinder and attempted relationships through there])

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        December 23, 2022 at 8:56 am | #

        Not necessarily a rush to sex, but with it coming right after her misreading him and jump to “I love you too”, she’s jumped too fast emotionally and is probably upping the physical ante in response. Why wait for the third date, they’ve agreed they’re in love, right? (And of course, like Joyce, Lucy is horny and it’s likely throwing off her emotional judgement. Easy to do.)

        I don’t know if Walky would have a problem getting physical, if it didn’t seem like it was under false pretences.

        • Inahc
          Inahc
          December 30, 2022 at 2:06 pm | #

          yeah. I’m the type to start with sex and then consider a relationship, and I’m *still* highly uncomfortable with lucy’s behaviour.

    • Taffy
      Taffy
      December 23, 2022 at 3:38 am | #

      I forget the exact number of days, but haven’t they been Officially Dating for like a week? I know she’s had her crush for months and yadda yadda, but he’s only just decided to make it A Thing. People wanna act like it’s “immature”, but I’d probably balk at this amount of speed from a partner, too.

      • HueSatLight
        HueSatLight
        December 23, 2022 at 2:06 pm | #

        He asked her out in Hompk! so they are a few hours short of exactly one week.

  8. Thag Simmons
    Thag Simmons
    December 23, 2022 at 12:06 am | #

    Kind of feels like something’s about to collapse here.

    • Reltzik
      Reltzik
      December 23, 2022 at 2:24 am | #

      Yeah, that fortress-corpse is definitely not a safe place to stand.

  9. King Daniel
    King Daniel
    December 23, 2022 at 12:06 am | #

    Dumbing of Age Book XIII: Just Let Me Stand Atop the Wretched Corpse of My Fortress of Solitude

    • Laura
      Laura
      December 23, 2022 at 12:08 am | #

      Dude, I am UP for it. I could GO for a fortress of solitude, sometimes!

    • saltchocolate
      saltchocolate
      December 23, 2022 at 7:33 am | #

      Yes

    • Opus the Poet
      Opus the Poet
      December 23, 2022 at 3:13 pm | #

      Works for me coming off a night with sub-zero wind chills.

  10. Marvelman
    Marvelman
    December 23, 2022 at 12:06 am | #

    On paper, Lucy would seem to tick a number of boxes for Walky. I guess the chemistry just isn’t there.

    • The Wellerman
      The Wellerman
      December 23, 2022 at 12:08 am | #

      Don’t be so sure. Walky’s just a bit distracted, that’s all.

    • Thag Simmons
      Thag Simmons
      December 23, 2022 at 12:11 am | #

      Walky seems like he’s been dealing with some stuff since his roommate died and probably not in the healthiest way, and I don’t think he’s really ready or interested in a serious relationship.

      • Laura
        Laura
        December 23, 2022 at 12:21 am | #

        Yeah. He seems to think he can joke his way out of feeling grief. It can’t be done.

        NPR had a good radio story today on grief. Sometimes I think I can feel storybook grief at fictional deaths more sincerely than I can feel grief in real life.

        …I think doing COVID work might have just dried up all the grief receptors.

        • The Wellerman
          The Wellerman
          December 23, 2022 at 12:37 am | #

          Yup. After all the calamity and catastrophe we’ve seen the past few years, you just get numb to it. Sometimes I worry whether or not I can’t feel it anymore, but when I do feel it, i feel A LOT, and I can’t handle it. It’s the emotional equivalent of trying to use a fire hose made of paper mache! 😵

    • Sirksome
      Sirksome
      December 23, 2022 at 12:18 am | #

      I don’t believe that’s really true beyond liking cartoons. Dorothy and Amber both have superficial similarities to Lucy but have shown a confidence in their relationship Lucy doesn’t. Amber may be an antisocial hermit and Dorothy is a bookish peopl pleaser, but neither would sit around quietly hoping a guy notices them.

    • anon
      anon
      December 23, 2022 at 12:35 am | #

      idk how long it’ll last compared to amber and dorothy but i’d hope a part of him would’ve wanted to date lucy as opposed to dorothy ‘telling’ him to but we know they’ve been hanging out and having lunch/dinner as friends before walky called it ‘romantic dinner’/didn’t rly seem like lucy was forcing her way into walky’s free time and him just putting up with her

    • GeekyWarrior
      GeekyWarrior
      December 23, 2022 at 5:46 am | #

      https://www.dumbingofage.com/2021/comic/book-11/04-hompk/romantic-2/
      It even sounds like he’s checking off boxes :'(

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      December 23, 2022 at 8:58 am | #

      Are you reading this as him just not being interested in the offer? Because of a lack of chemistry?

  11. The Wellerman
    The Wellerman
    December 23, 2022 at 12:06 am | #

    RE: alt-text, is that a meme I missed or a song I can’t identify? 😅

    Also, is it just me or is there a subtle change to the color scheme here?

    • HueSatLight
      HueSatLight
      December 23, 2022 at 12:24 am | #

      Superman(1978) theme song.

      They look kind of like they’ve got dirty snow grime on them.

      • The Wellerman
        The Wellerman
        December 23, 2022 at 12:59 am | #

        No I mean like, in the middle panels Walky and Lucy look like they’re more saturated and less contrast than usual in the colors 😮

        • Sol
          Sol
          December 23, 2022 at 1:11 am | #

          Oh good it’s not just me. I thought I’d accidentally changed a setting on my laptop or chrome, comic looks oddly lightened or like there’s a thin mist covering it.

        • HueSatLight
          HueSatLight
          December 23, 2022 at 1:24 am | #

          That’s what I mean. Like a car that’s been driving through slush has that dusty grayness fading it’s color.

        • HueSatLight
          HueSatLight
          December 23, 2022 at 8:49 am | #

          The last strip they were in front of the pile, their silhouettes were a light black (brightness of 18/100), but the black in the close up (hair) was true black (0/100). In today’s strip, a bunch of what’s normally the true black has been set to the light black. The rest of the pallet seems to be approximately the same as before.

      • Johannes
        Johannes
        December 23, 2022 at 6:03 pm | #

        Or it would have been the Superman theme but Willis missed a ‘bwa’ D:

      • StClair
        StClair
        December 23, 2022 at 11:37 pm | #

        That actually threw me off, because geek that I am, I was specifically trying to match it to the Fortress of Solitude theme (a variation on the one for Krypton).

      • TheKelliestKelly
        TheKelliestKelly
        December 24, 2022 at 12:10 am | #

        Haha, I thought it was Careless Whisper and was in regards to what Lucy had alluded to.

        Also, I fat fingered the reply and accidentally flagged your comment :/ sorry

    • Amós Batista
      Amós Batista
      December 23, 2022 at 9:34 am | #

      Maybe it’s fog…

  12. Axel
    Axel
    December 23, 2022 at 12:07 am | #

    Oof, but yeah if I had just realized she was way more serious about it than me (from the love word, not from the proposition), that would probably be my first reaction

    THEN I’d actually have the conversation, because I’m not Walky.

    • Regalli
      Regalli
      December 23, 2022 at 2:13 am | #

      Yeaaaah, I cannot blame him for trying to immediately put distance but I definitely think he needs to have that conversation ASAP. It’s doing neither of them a service to avoid it.

      Unfortunately, we’ve seen how Walky deals with problems already, and “ignore it hoping it will resolve itself” tends to be pretty high on that list. Oh dear.

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        December 23, 2022 at 9:00 am | #

        Now that’s a fair critique of Walky. To be fair, this is a really tricky conversation to have and it’s not unreasonable to let him have a bit of time to deal with it. There are a lot of responses here that basically end the relationship right now.

  13. AGV
    AGV
    December 23, 2022 at 12:09 am | #

    “I’m trying to tell you how horny I am”

    • Axel
      Axel
      December 23, 2022 at 12:26 am | #

      “I’ve just come to tell you how horny I am”

      • Yotomoe
        Yotomoe
        December 23, 2022 at 1:27 pm | #

        “This is how you remind me of how horny I am”

    • Maveric1984
      Maveric1984
      December 23, 2022 at 9:56 pm | #

      I just want…

      To say…

      I’m horny!

  14. DailyBrad
    DailyBrad
    December 23, 2022 at 12:09 am | #

    Man, he hauled ass up there.

  15. Laura
    Laura
    December 23, 2022 at 12:10 am | #

    OK, anyone up for a game?

    Q. “Walky’s fortress of solitude is that huge snow pile.
    Where is your fortress of solitude?”
    Or, alternatively, “If you could build a fortress of solitude ANYWHERE, where would it be?”

    • Laura
      Laura
      December 23, 2022 at 12:13 am | #

      I can go first.

      A. My fortress of solitude is and always has been the bathroom. Sorry. I can just get lost, reading, in the bathroom.

      Alternative “anywhere”: Paris. Just walking in Paris by myself on a misty springtime night. With a cheap room in a 1-star hotel waiting for me somewhere, where I can sleep by myself.

      Alternative “anywhere”: The oilcans out by the railroad tracks in far Southwest Philly.

      • Laura
        Laura
        December 23, 2022 at 12:14 am | #

        Alternative actual fortress: while playing Tetris, off in my own mindspace.

        • The Wellerman
          The Wellerman
          December 23, 2022 at 12:32 am | #

          So glad Tetris works to get you there! For the past few years, it has been really hard for me to get to that mindspace fortress of solitude. At least I have Ritalin to make it at least a little bit easier, when I remember to take it.

          • Laura
            Laura
            December 23, 2022 at 1:29 am | #

            The chemical fortress… a classic!

    • HueSatLight
      HueSatLight
      December 23, 2022 at 12:37 am | #

      Ideally, like an island on a river. With trees that turn brilliant yellow in the fall.

      • Laura
        Laura
        December 23, 2022 at 1:30 am | #

        Lovely!

    • Kyrik Michalowski
      Kyrik Michalowski
      December 23, 2022 at 12:46 am | #

      My fortress of solitude is my room; it has some of my knife and sword collections, my games, my writings, my computer. I can go days without needing to leave the fortress.

      • Kyrik Michalowski
        Kyrik Michalowski
        December 23, 2022 at 12:51 am | #

        If I could have my fortress of solitude anywhere; I would want it to be in colorado in whatever area has the best internet speeds and stable connection.

        • Laura
          Laura
          December 23, 2022 at 2:53 am | #

          Colorado is so gorgeous. That SKY.

    • Yotomoe
      Yotomoe
      December 23, 2022 at 12:58 am | #

      A. Barnes and Noble is my fortress of Solitude. I go there, read the manga, jam out to music and I feel at peace. I can honestly say I am never happier than I am at a bookstore.

      B. I’d like to buy an RV or something and like…live in it and just fill it with a computer and all the shit I need to still do what I already do but just travel around America and see the sights while effectively working from “home”.

      • The Wellerman
        The Wellerman
        December 23, 2022 at 1:20 am | #

        Same here with Barnes and Nobles bruh, that place is like sacred to me! 🥰

      • Laura
        Laura
        December 23, 2022 at 2:52 am | #

        Yoto, your “B” dream is my “B” dream. I keep telling my spouse, “Let’s just do it. Let’s just hop on some wheels and GO.”

        And honestly, “A” is, too. Ever since I was a kid, I could hole up in a library or a bookshop and just read ’til my heart’s content. I was SO fortunate that most places didn’t chase me away because I couldn’t afford to buy stuff.

        • The Wellerman
          The Wellerman
          December 23, 2022 at 3:18 am | #

          ☺️📚📖

        • Yotomoe
          Yotomoe
          December 23, 2022 at 1:29 pm | #

          I’ve always just liked this idea of running away. Songs about running away, stories about running away. Just the idea of just leaving where you are and not coming back for an indeterminate amount of time is so interesting to me.

          • Leorale
            Leorale
            December 23, 2022 at 7:08 pm | #

            After college, I ran away and joined a circus. Highly memorable. Go for it.

            • Laura
              Laura
              December 23, 2022 at 11:41 pm | #

              WOW! That’s amazing! What did you do in the circus?

          • Laura
            Laura
            December 23, 2022 at 11:42 pm | #

            Back when I had no fixed address, it was kind of like that. I’d just walk out by the highway onramp, stick out my thumb, and then see where life took me. Half a lifetime ago.

    • Reltzik
      Reltzik
      December 23, 2022 at 2:27 am | #

      Probably in NYC. I could turn such a profit from that…

      • Laura
        Laura
        December 23, 2022 at 2:50 am | #

        Yeah, no kidding! So many New Yorkers NEED to get themselves into a little solitude!

    • Taffy
      Taffy
      December 23, 2022 at 3:41 am | #

      I’d totally put a solitude box right in the middle of a big important politics building, like the Capitol or the White House, directly in the middle of a hallway or table so they’d have to work around me. Just to be a nuisance.

      • Laura
        Laura
        December 23, 2022 at 12:25 pm | #

        Sounds like a SCIF pod. I think they have those there.

    • Andrews
      Andrews
      December 23, 2022 at 4:50 am | #

      My mountain bike. Good Q 🙂

      • Laura
        Laura
        December 23, 2022 at 12:26 pm | #

        Oh how wonderful. I used to mountain bike, when I was younger. Joy!

    • Chris (the other one)
      Chris (the other one)
      December 23, 2022 at 6:20 am | #

      As kids, my cousins and I would build great fortresses inside snow banks, with tunnels everywhere and piles of “defensive artillery” (aka snowballs)… till one year when the best piles were too close to the road and the fortress was obliterated by a county snowplow, about two minutes after we left to go get lunch…. I don’t remember obsessing about it at the time, but every now and then I remember that and absolutely cringe at what almost happened.

      • Laura
        Laura
        December 23, 2022 at 12:21 pm | #

        Oh WOW. 😮

        Lucky kids!

    • Opus the Poet
      Opus the Poet
      December 23, 2022 at 3:40 pm | #

      My Fortress of Solitude is a 2 lane with gentle hills and a wide shoulder to ride my bicycle on and good cell phone coverage (minimum of 3/5 bars) in case of accidents.

      • Laura
        Laura
        December 23, 2022 at 11:43 pm | #

        That sounds just heavenly!

  16. Imogen
    Imogen
    December 23, 2022 at 12:11 am | #

    I think Walky’s recoiling here less out of a lack of attraction so much as realizing that Lucy is falling way deeper than he might be and putting sex on the table is only going to further his “guilt” at not feeling the same way.

    • Warcodered
      Warcodered
      December 23, 2022 at 12:14 am | #

      Yeah if nothing else they’re out of step and her wanting to go further makes him even more uncomfortable because she’s already clearly ahead of him.

      • Lionheart261
        Lionheart261
        December 23, 2022 at 2:57 am | #

        An angle I’m not seeing much commentary on is that this whole thing is probably bringing up flashbacks to his previous relationships, in that both of them could be read as having burned twice as hot for half as long “because of him,” which sadly tracks with Walky’s self-deprecating tendencies. He loved Dorothy, but from his perspective, he was ultimately a drain on her time and stopping her from achieving her dreams. He liked Amber, but he’s hopefully had time to accept that he fully screwed that up through his actions on Halloween. Both of those situations are up in the air to differing extents, but the bottom line is that their connections changed irrevocably, and I don’t think Walky’s ready for Lucy to be another girl he was once friends with who barely talks to him anymore.

        So, now that the thing with Lucy is moving fast in similar ways to the last two relationships, he’s either petrified that he’ll screw up again or convinced that him screwing up is an inevitable outcome that can’t be avoided, that he’s damaged goods and that Lucy deserves someone better than him (as *somebody* just *had* to keep telling her =/).

        Way I see this going, he’s either gonna hurt Lucy’s feelings by trying to break up with her “for her own good” and ultimately creating a self-fulfilling prophecy, or he’s gonna make Lucy sad for *him* by exposing his own low opinion of himself to her, which could honestly throw her for a loop or could potentially lead to a touching moment of her confirming her feelings for him do in fact go deeper than just “nerdy boy hot.”

        Idk, lot of people seem resigned to sounding the death knell on these two, but I’m gonna wait and see how this plays out.

    • Agemegos
      Agemegos
      December 23, 2022 at 12:46 am | #

      Yeah. Although Lucy has said as much, Walky understands that she made her suggestion of sex in the belief that he loves her, which he doesn’t. He is afraid that to accept would be deceitful. On the other hand, he is afraid that to decline would be insulting or at least hurtful.

      • Agemegos
        Agemegos
        December 23, 2022 at 12:47 am | #

        Bah! Curse the lack of an edit function!. Lucy has not said as much.

    • Wraithy2773
      Wraithy2773
      December 23, 2022 at 8:51 pm | #

      100%, he’s freaking the fuck out and doesn’t exactly have the communication skills or experience needed to address it.

      Remember, Walky’s way of managing issues is to deflect with jokes and then repress as hard as humanly possible…

  17. Kravis
    Kravis
    December 23, 2022 at 12:15 am | #

    Watching “a man” sulk in his grief is pretty fuckin intimate.

  18. Freezer
    Freezer
    December 23, 2022 at 12:15 am | #

    So… Was Walky already gone when Lucy made her offer? I would hate to think an offer of second base would be enough to make a (technically) adult male bolt.

    • Sirksome
      Sirksome
      December 23, 2022 at 12:20 am | #

      No. He’s clearly standing right next to her. He heard it and ran.

    • Nono
      Nono
      December 23, 2022 at 12:20 am | #

      If that guy is already mentally screaming and running away about the commitment status of the relationship? Very easily.

  19. Nono
    Nono
    December 23, 2022 at 12:20 am | #

    I don’t know why but I suspect that’s a line Lucy has been rehearsing and then blushing wildly every time she does.

    • Mark
      Mark
      December 23, 2022 at 9:28 am | #

      Possibly practicing in a mirror. That expression really turns up the heat.

  20. Vancore
    Vancore
    December 23, 2022 at 12:27 am | #

    Still mulling over the ‘I love you too’ moment I see.

  21. BBCC
    BBCC
    December 23, 2022 at 12:28 am | #

    Lucy, you’re a fellow comic nerd, you know nerd nonsense takes precedence over anything else. 😛

  22. Sporky
    Sporky
    December 23, 2022 at 12:29 am | #

    In the last panel it feels like Willis intentionally wrote Walky’s line to use as a book title later

  23. Yeet
    Yeet
    December 23, 2022 at 12:29 am | #

    I assumed Walky was realising he’d have to break things off or at least talk about taking things slower emotionally, but this sounds more like he intends to commit to this harder despite not really wanting to.
    That’s a lot to read in to a single line though, he could just be making a sweet superman reference.

    • Nicoleandmaggie
      Nicoleandmaggie
      December 23, 2022 at 8:29 am | #

      I have a hard time seeing Walky actually doing that. He reminds me of a guy in college who dated most of my friends and was dumped by the Dorothy and uh Sal types (Jess was more of a Sal than an Amber, but not his brother!) and then dated a girl he wasn’t really into in the same way Walky is but couldn’t dump her— he just behaved progressively worse and more irresponsible with lots of ghosting in the hope she would eventually dump him. It was the first time I saw someone do that. So much worse than pulling off the bandaid immediately would have been— it killed her self esteem for a long time. (After that he found some other friend group to date with freshmen girls that were more his maturity level when he was a junior.)

  24. HueSatLight
    HueSatLight
    December 23, 2022 at 12:43 am | #

    There’s also face kneading with buttocks. Or– or so I’ve heard.

    • brionl
      brionl
      December 23, 2022 at 12:45 am | #

      Yeah, I think I’ll pass on that one.

    • Yotomoe
      Yotomoe
      December 23, 2022 at 1:01 am | #

      Oh, my face Needs Buttocks.

    • Freezer
      Freezer
      December 24, 2022 at 1:25 am | #

      I actually read her line as “kneading buttocks with face.”

      Or is there an inside joke that just went whizzing by?

      • Schpoonman
        Schpoonman
        December 24, 2022 at 9:06 am | #

        Joyce wants Joe’s butt on her face.

  25. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    December 23, 2022 at 12:46 am | #

    Yeah we can try soaking. That sounds sexy AND boring!

    • Laura
      Laura
      December 23, 2022 at 12:23 pm | #

      Self disciplined. Never boring.

  26. hazel
    hazel
    December 23, 2022 at 12:53 am | #

    Yeah he is uh. Not having a good time.

  27. Grayfinity
    Grayfinity
    December 23, 2022 at 1:03 am | #

    I feel for ya, Walkerton. But you got to have an honest-to-goodness heart-to-heart with Lucy before this blows up catastrophically.

  28. Bicycle Bill
    Bicycle Bill
    December 23, 2022 at 1:04 am | #

    A girl like Lucy, frankly, would scare the crap out of me.

  29. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    December 23, 2022 at 1:10 am | #

    Might be a bit too dirty but I’m curious.

    What’s your favorite non-sex intimate thing to do with a partner?

    Last time I made out with a girl she pet my head affectionately and I…cannot describe how much I enjoyed that.

    • Nono
      Nono
      December 23, 2022 at 1:27 am | #

      Does making out count as sex?

      • Yotomoe
        Yotomoe
        December 23, 2022 at 1:42 am | #

        I can’t imagine it does.

    • Laura
      Laura
      December 23, 2022 at 1:28 am | #

      Smelling their hair. Intoxicating!

    • Crankshaft-Sally
      Crankshaft-Sally
      December 23, 2022 at 1:55 am | #

      Lying in each others arms and one of us reading their favourite book to the other. One of my favourites.

    • Cmasta1992
      Cmasta1992
      December 23, 2022 at 2:28 am | #

      Making out. I love love LOVE kissing

    • The Wellerman
      The Wellerman
      December 23, 2022 at 2:33 am | #

      Anything to do with the belly button! ☺️
      If only I had a partner to do them with 😭

    • PirateTawnee
      PirateTawnee
      December 23, 2022 at 2:56 am | #

      Head scritches (think Charlie Brown and Snoopy, or maybe those cat videos with the multi-pronged tool on the cat’s head).

      • Caninse
        Caninse
        December 23, 2022 at 10:47 am | #

        My girlfriend is the same way. She loves head scritches and it’s nice giving them to her as well.

    • Moon
      Moon
      December 23, 2022 at 3:52 am | #

      Unironically hand-holding. Or being able to lightly massage my partner’s joints.

      I guess I have a thing for certain tactile sensations.

    • shrub
      shrub
      December 23, 2022 at 5:52 am | #

      Back scratches

    • zee
      zee
      December 23, 2022 at 12:53 pm | #

      Tbh probably like, talking about kinks n stuff, what we like, what we wanna try in the future. Or even just non sexual talks about the future, like what we want for our wedding, what type of place we wanna get together, etc. I’ve been long distance forever now so “intimate” is a lil harder to reach, but i always feel the best after those conversations. Especially when they come with fun revelations, like i gained a lot of weight recently bc of my meds and I’m really insecure about it, but it turns out my guy finds my belly attractive :3
      Stuff like that really makes you feel close when you can’t physically be

      • Laura
        Laura
        December 23, 2022 at 11:45 pm | #

        I’m so glad you have that. That sounds wonderful.

    • Opus the Poet
      Opus the Poet
      December 23, 2022 at 3:54 pm | #

      Sharing body heat under a blanket. Even fully-clothed that is intimate as all get out. I used to be very popular for that because I could crank up my thermostat and just RADIATE/i> heat. I once looked up and had 5 girls huddled next to me while I was doing the human space heater thing. The one girls I knew and 4 total strangers.

      • Opus the Poet
        Opus the Poet
        December 23, 2022 at 3:55 pm | #

        Sorry, looks like I missed the angled bracket on the close tag.

      • Laura
        Laura
        December 23, 2022 at 11:45 pm | #

        Sounds like quite a story!

  30. Cmasta1992
    Cmasta1992
    December 23, 2022 at 2:03 am | #

    Third panel Lucy got ne feeling a certain way

  31. Icalasari
    Icalasari
    December 23, 2022 at 2:11 am | #

    WALKY used TELEPORT!

    • Clif
      Clif
      December 23, 2022 at 2:32 am | #

      And he didn’t even have a lizard on his head.

  32. Reed
    Reed
    December 23, 2022 at 2:32 am | #

    I hope Lucy finds someone better. It’s not Walky’s fault he’s not af the same level as her at this point in the relationship, I just want her to be with someone who appreciates her and will reciprocate accordingly.

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      December 23, 2022 at 9:05 am | #

      Or just that she relaxes a bit, enjoys what they’ve got and gives him a chance to catch up.
      It’s not going to be easy to find someone who will fall in love with her in a week. She’s probably not really in love with him either at this point, just infatuated. New relationship energy is a hell of a drug.

  33. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    December 23, 2022 at 2:43 am | #

    It’s like Lucy and Joyce got hit by teh horny at the same time

  34. C.T. Phipps
    C.T. Phipps
    December 23, 2022 at 5:16 am | #

    Walky just had his first sexual relationship with Dorothy and he’s just not that into Lucy, it seems. She’s also moving way-way too fast for him when he’s still trying to get to know her.

  35. Nio
    Nio
    December 23, 2022 at 5:20 am | #

    Still not quite sure how much Walky’s actions here are even related to his relationship with Lucy. I mean sure, there’s a certain drama/comedy in it, that she wants to get intimate and he is sad to lose a fortress of solitude. But looking at his face, i get the impression he doesn’t listen to one word she says after panel one. He just sees the snow melting and runs up the hill maybe?

    I mean, i still got to admit, the two run at different speeds and probably even different directions in their relationship too.

  36. Mr.Morningstar
    Mr.Morningstar
    December 23, 2022 at 5:23 am | #

    Walky really is just pure adhd energy

  37. Chris (the other one)
    Chris (the other one)
    December 23, 2022 at 6:10 am | #

    Every once and awhile, Lucy makes me think she’s devious, conniving, just as predatory as some others (Panel 3, for instance). But those are very rare, and few and far between. She follows up her calculating eyes in Panel 3 with the insecurities shown in EVERY OTHER PANEL.

    Is she a naïve waif, trying to live the fiction of the steamy romance novel genre, or is she a calculating follower of Raidah? I’m not actually sure what her end-game is here.

    • you could watch andor
      you could watch andor
      December 23, 2022 at 6:55 am | #

      Calculating??? Those are bedroom eyes. She’s just horny.

    • Ed Callahan
      Ed Callahan
      December 23, 2022 at 7:23 am | #

      I think her expression is a regular ‘come hither’ look.

      • ValdVin
        ValdVin
        December 23, 2022 at 9:56 pm | #

        To which he responded, for the immediate time being, by “going yon”.

  38. Amós Batista
    Amós Batista
    December 23, 2022 at 6:59 am | #

    Poor Lucy. But, at least, I’m happy one way or another, because she’s not afraid for more intimacy. You all know: fundamentalism and shit.

  39. Rabisch
    Rabisch
    December 23, 2022 at 8:16 am | #

    What Walky is doing isn’t a bad idea. It’s worth stopping and thinking if for you is better solitude or being with someone.

  40. Taffy
    Taffy
    December 23, 2022 at 8:51 am | #

    Lucy, if you wanna grab his dong, you can just grab his dong.

    • Dot
      Dot
      December 24, 2022 at 10:38 am | #

      Ask first!

  41. Lan
    Lan
    December 23, 2022 at 9:14 am | #

    I was thinking for a while that Walky doesn’t need a girlfriend and that he needs a girl who is a friend, but then I realized that he just needs friends. It seems like every relationship he’s had throughout the story (save for, like, his dad and MAYBE Booster) has either been romantic/sexual or contentious (or, in the case of Mike, a source of trauma; and in Amber’s case, both). The closest thing he has to a platonic friendship with someone he can confide in is with Jennifer and she’s actively pushing him away.
    I hope Walky can find some people who aren’t put off by his emotional immaturity, make some friends, and get emotional support and validation from people who aren’t his romantic partners because relying on that isn’t healthy.

  42. Acebender
    Acebender
    December 23, 2022 at 9:16 am | #

    Wait, shit, I forgot. They haven’t even had their second date and she’s already dropping the L bomb? Yeah no wonder Wally’s freaking out

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      December 23, 2022 at 11:33 am | #

      To be fair, they’ve been spending a lot of time together that isn’t formal dates. And they’d been doing so for a while with her already crushing on him before they started dating.

      I remember one time back in college when I’d been seeing a girl for months and we were out somewhere and realized it was our first actual “date”.

      But yeah, it’s been about a week and Walky’s got good reason to be flustered here.

  43. DavidK
    DavidK
    December 23, 2022 at 9:20 am | #

    Walky: Just let me stand atop the wretched corpse of my Fortress of Solitude. Oh hey, Henry Cavill, what are you doing here?

    Henry Cavill: Same thing.

    • shrub
      shrub
      December 23, 2022 at 11:47 am | #

      If anyone ever wanted to know just how dumb Hollywood really is

      Henry Cavill should be the biggest star in the world, he should be Geralt, Superman, James Bond, Napoleon Solo (I want a sequel)

      I really hope he smashes his Warhammer series out of the park and the maybe, just maybe, he’ll get the recognition he deserves

      • zee
        zee
        December 23, 2022 at 12:58 pm | #

        I mean it probably doesn’t help his reputation that superman in the DC movies is the garbo most annoying interpretation of superman ala Zach snider’s pessimism.
        Excited for him in Warhammer, i fell in love once i found out he’s a massive fucking nerd irl and almost lost the superman role bc he was doing a wow raid

        • shrub
          shrub
          December 23, 2022 at 7:38 pm | #

          Exactly, a nerd that cares about the source material

  44. ValdVin
    ValdVin
    December 23, 2022 at 9:32 am | #

    Fair warning: I’m saving these Lucyfaces.

    Also telling her “I adore the guy” meant so much more from short-attention-span Walky. I can’t imagine he was thinking of this for half an hour.

    (Signed, a guy who will prepare some things he says to his wife so I can express myself as I want to.)

  45. shrub
    shrub
    December 23, 2022 at 11:53 am | #

    I normally don’t like Walky but I feel for him here, I’m assuming he heard exactly what Lucy said and doesn’t want to take advantage of what she’s offering and doesn’t know how to handle it (because of course he doesn’t) so he does what any boy would do and runs away

    I also feel for Lucy because its extremely vulnerable for a young, inexperienced girl to freely offer herself up like this and to be possibly rejected by her boyfriend…that’s gotta sting

  46. zee
    zee
    December 23, 2022 at 1:00 pm | #

    Everybody shut the fuck up on commentary about Lucy and walkys relationship this is important.

    Look at panel 3.

    Lucy’s hot.

    That is all, you may continue.

    • Taffy
      Taffy
      December 23, 2022 at 2:15 pm | #

      In this you are correct. That’s the most important information in today’s comic.

  47. miri
    miri
    December 23, 2022 at 5:07 pm | #

    I hope that these two break up soon and Lucy can be with someone who appreciates her and Walky can be with someone to whom he’s attracted. Love em but they’re a bad match.

    • Taffy
      Taffy
      December 23, 2022 at 5:11 pm | #

      I’m glad they’re trying, though!

      • miri
        miri
        December 23, 2022 at 5:41 pm | #

        They are trying, I will give them that.

  48. Wendy
    Wendy
    December 23, 2022 at 5:20 pm | #

    Was inspired to draw a little Lucy in colored pencils today. I really want her to have everything she ever wants, but it’s not looking so good right now. :,)

    https://twitter.com/namioshiro/status/1606413360165265408?s=20&t=e9js_EPaS1nqGzhwHzckOA

    • Taffy
      Taffy
      December 23, 2022 at 5:21 pm | #

      OMFG, THAT’S SO CUTE!!! You did such a good job!!

      • Wendy
        Wendy
        December 23, 2022 at 5:25 pm | #

        Thank you!! 😀 Lucy IS a cutie, I wanted to do her justice.

    • ValdVin
      ValdVin
      December 23, 2022 at 9:33 pm | #

      Agree with Taffy. Didn’t think she could be more of a sweetie but the animesque eyes up the ante.

    • milu
      milu
      December 24, 2022 at 3:35 am | #

      Awww that’s cute as all heck. Love the technique too, makes mw want to try it =)

  49. poyo
    poyo
    December 23, 2022 at 5:22 pm | #

    a lot of people calling them a bad match and i don’t that’s entirely the problem. i think they’re both just extremely immature when it comes to relationships. well, walky’s immature at everything, but particularly relationships. this is lucy’s FIRST boyfriend, she’s romanticizing a lot of things about their relationship and completely ignoring others. they COULD be a great couple, but they both have a LOT of growing up to do. One maybe more so than the other. lol

    breaking up would probably be the SMARTER thing for them to do, but i can also see them both growing and learning together.

    • miri
      miri
      December 23, 2022 at 5:43 pm | #

      I think they could be together, but first they need to break up and have three other relationships each. Then they can get back together and be endgame.

  50. Sombrero
    Sombrero
    December 23, 2022 at 5:32 pm | #

    I honestly can’t tell if Panel 3 Walky is reacting to what Lucy’s saying or if at that point his attention has already drifted to the melting snowhill and he’s completely oblivious to what she’s doing and saying.

  51. Graham
    Graham
    December 27, 2022 at 12:25 am | #

    Dang, he’s a fast climber!

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