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September 18, 2023

Hand-drawn

by David M Willis on January 4, 2023 at 12:01 am
  • 02 – Turning Saints Into the Sea

└ Tags: leslie, robin

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  1. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    January 4, 2023 at 12:01 am | #

    I wonder how married Oscar Isaac would be if all it took was holding up explicit posters, would he need an exclusive harem house

    …also, now I totes want to see how the entire cast draws

    • Yotomoe
      Yotomoe
      January 4, 2023 at 12:07 am | #

      Well we know how Walky, Joyce, Joe, Malaya and Mary draw at least. That’s actually a pretty decent amount of the cast. And that’s just off the op of my head.

      • Thomas
        Thomas
        January 5, 2023 at 5:20 am | #

        Well observed. We also know Amber draws pretty well:
        – https://www.shortpacked.com/comic/false-equivalence

    • Jamie
      Jamie
      January 4, 2023 at 12:10 am | #

      I mean, I’m sure he’d be just as married-with-two-kids as he was before the posters.

      • Carl Muckenhoupt
        Carl Muckenhoupt
        January 4, 2023 at 1:24 pm | #

        Sure. Married TO ROBIN, with two kids from his previous marriage which he ended so he could be with Robin.

    • Sirksome
      Sirksome
      January 4, 2023 at 12:10 am | #

      I wouldn’t put Robin past commissioning honestly. Like one of those anonymous furries that pay tons of money for an artist to draw Krystal from Star Fox’s feet, and their actually like a high powered lawyer or a senator or something.

      • Thag Simmons
        Thag Simmons
        January 4, 2023 at 12:12 am | #

        They’re usually tech industry people

      • Yotomoe
        Yotomoe
        January 4, 2023 at 12:24 am | #

        It’s almost enough to make me consider doing furry commissions…
        Almost.

        • ktbear
          ktbear
          January 4, 2023 at 12:53 am | #

          If you ever do let me know. Ive commissioned about 10 so far and I think the most Ive paid was US$1000. Never got a picture of Star Fox’s feet tho, perhaps I should?

          • Leorale
            Leorale
            January 4, 2023 at 2:36 am | #

            I’d totally draw furry art for hire. I’m an illustrator, my favorite subjects are portraits and pets, why am I not already in this market?

            • Kazuma Taichi
              Kazuma Taichi
              January 4, 2023 at 5:40 pm | #

              Probably just no one in your inner circles mentioning that furry commissions make bank

              • Leorale
                Leorale
                January 4, 2023 at 10:21 pm | #

                Yep, probably that. Also I need to go make a website so potential commission-hirers know I exist.
                See you in a bit, gotta go draw a portfolio of adorable animal-people.

          • Taffy
            Taffy
            January 4, 2023 at 6:38 pm | #

            What the heck kinda picture did you pay a thousand bucks for? I’m assuming/hoping it’s very elaborate and large.

        • Ana Chronistic
          Ana Chronistic
          January 5, 2023 at 12:01 am | #

          Furries will make you rich 🤑

    • Twitcher
      Twitcher
      January 4, 2023 at 7:17 am | #

      Willis– How does Robin sound? I’ve always imagined her with a Palin-esque accent.

  2. Thag Simmons
    Thag Simmons
    January 4, 2023 at 12:03 am | #

    feeling very vindicated right now

  3. Yumi
    Yumi
    January 4, 2023 at 12:03 am | #

    To make a confession of my own… I, too, have said “lol” aloud in the past.

    • milu
      milu
      January 4, 2023 at 7:03 am | #

      I confess to the same and furthermore i confess i will also do it in the future, repeatedly, until it no longer amuses me. (it might be decades)

    • Skeptible
      Skeptible
      January 4, 2023 at 11:41 am | #

      Did you say “ell oh ell”, or “loll”?

      • Yumi
        Yumi
        January 4, 2023 at 12:51 pm | #

        Yes.

  4. Sirksome
    Sirksome
    January 4, 2023 at 12:04 am | #

    I have no idea who Jason Mantzoukas is. Unless that’s Robin mispronouncing Jason Mamoa which is like a 50/50.

    • Thag Simmons
      Thag Simmons
      January 4, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

      He’s a comedian. Been on shows like Good Place and B99, starred in a show I can’t remember the name of, in the new Percy Jackson, has a podcast I think.

      Got a fun crazy energy to him, he’s a talented performer

      • RassilonTDavros
        RassilonTDavros
        January 4, 2023 at 12:20 am | #

        Did a quick search and I haven’t seen anything he was in, but I’m looking forward to seeing him as Mr. D! Gods, I hope the new series is good. I’ve waited for a good PJatO adaptation since 2010.

        • Tan
          Tan
          January 4, 2023 at 12:43 am | #

          You should watch The Good Place. Not for him particularly, his character’s only relevant for a handful of episodes, but just in general.

          • Dana
            Dana
            January 4, 2023 at 1:39 am | #

            I second, third, fourth, and fifth that.

        • Carla's #2 Fan
          Carla's #2 Fan
          January 4, 2023 at 3:46 am | #

          He’s also been the guest judge for Nailed It more than once, likely their best guest judge (and I say that knowing my top celebrity crush, Felicia Day, was once on the show)

        • Mr D phone posting
          Mr D phone posting
          January 4, 2023 at 5:47 am | #

          Sorry you’re waiting to see him as who?

          • anonymsly
            anonymsly
            January 4, 2023 at 8:36 am | #

            Dionysus goes by Mr. D in the books, and Jason Mantzoukas will be playing him.

            • Yumi
              Yumi
              January 4, 2023 at 5:43 pm | #

              (Ooo, good save, we don’t want him finding out until the premiere…)

            • Mr D
              Mr D
              January 5, 2023 at 6:20 am | #

              Well poop, I chose this nickname thinking I wouldn’t have to deal with character references

    • Sirksome
      Sirksome
      January 4, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

      I just googled him and I do recognize the actor but would never have guessed that was his last name.

    • UrsulaDavina
      UrsulaDavina
      January 4, 2023 at 12:07 am | #

      You would know if you saw him he has done alot of tv roles also is in Big Mouth on Netflix he general plays someone who is unhinged, so the joke works on multiple levels here.

    • Ryan
      Ryan
      January 4, 2023 at 12:08 am | #

      He’s an actor. Derek in The Good Place. Adrian Pimento in Brooklyn Nine Nine. Various other things.

      • Nono
        Nono
        January 4, 2023 at 12:28 am | #

        Thanks, because for a second I thought he was, well, Jason on the Good Place.

    • JRivest
      JRivest
      January 4, 2023 at 12:08 am | #

      Jason Mantzoukas notably played Rosa’s on and off boyfriend Adrian Pimento on Brooklyn 99 and Derek on The Good Place.

      • Librain
        Librain
        January 6, 2023 at 2:58 pm | #

        Also voices Jankom Pog on Star Trek Prodigy, and the asshole* on Invincible. I didn’t recognise him in the first until I noticed his name in the credits, but then watching Invincible I couldn’t mistake hearing his voice again.

        *I can’t remember what said asshole’s name is, but I feel like that should be enough for most people to know who I’m talking about.

    • Taffy
      Taffy
      January 4, 2023 at 12:09 am | #

      It’s alright, I looked him up and still don’t recognize him

    • anon
      anon
      January 4, 2023 at 3:47 am | #

      ridiculous shortpacked powers aside, jason mantzoukas and robin def seems the type that’d have an on/off relationship again/he’d be down for her ‘chaos’ as long as she doesn’t try to poison him with eggs (allergy)

    • milu
      milu
      January 4, 2023 at 7:05 am | #

      I knew who he was but needed a refresher on this Isaac fellow.

      (I would totally marry Mantzoukas over him)

      • Skeptible
        Skeptible
        January 4, 2023 at 11:55 am | #

        I looked Isaac up too. I’ve seen a couple of things that he was in. Still not ringing a bell.

    • ValdVin
      ValdVin
      January 4, 2023 at 7:48 am | #

      He’s one of the three regulars at “How Did this Get Made?”

    • BOOSTER SHOT
      BOOSTER SHOT
      January 4, 2023 at 10:21 am | #

      He’s Tellarite nobility

  5. Yeet
    Yeet
    January 4, 2023 at 12:04 am | #

    Robin is the posterboard dingdong bandit!

    • Jamie
      Jamie
      January 4, 2023 at 12:08 am | #

      I’m not sure what she did qualifies as banditry, really.

      • Alex
        Alex
        January 4, 2023 at 2:52 pm | #

        Joyce didn’t steal anything either.

  6. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    January 4, 2023 at 12:04 am | #

    Robin is pretty in panel 2.

    • Rose by Any Other Name
      Rose by Any Other Name
      January 4, 2023 at 12:41 am | #

      Agreed.

    • anon
      anon
      January 4, 2023 at 3:48 am | #

      another smug girl smile to reference/add to the collection lol

  7. butts
    butts
    January 4, 2023 at 12:04 am | #

    i mean he’s no Greg Killmaster, but i guess he’ll do

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      January 4, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

      This is all part of her plan to get close to the Star Wars cast so she can infiltrate Lucasfilm and locate Killmaster.

  8. Nono
    Nono
    January 4, 2023 at 12:05 am | #

    I do not like Robin.

    Also, Leslie needs to stop going up to someone she despises because she wants to make use of them.

    • shrub
      shrub
      January 4, 2023 at 12:09 am | #

      Shes a bigger pest than Jason ever was

    • UrsulaDavina
      UrsulaDavina
      January 4, 2023 at 12:10 am | #

      Leslie’s judgement is sometimes questionable, I think she is still dating probably the moat rude dentist in the world or at least the greater Bloomington area, not sure if she was the best choice given how she mocked her ex girlfriends looks.

      • BOOSTER SHOT
        BOOSTER SHOT
        January 4, 2023 at 10:23 am | #

        GUARANTEE that lady is not the rudest dentist in the area. If you have had mostly non-rude experiences with dentists, I envy you! Leslie’s ex seemed straight down the middle if not kinder/more tactful than the average.

    • Icalasari
      Icalasari
      January 4, 2023 at 1:06 am | #

      I was expecting Robin to show herself becoming more likeable

      And then she pulls this

  9. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    January 4, 2023 at 12:05 am | #

    I’ll be honest. It’d work on me.

    • Reltzik
      Reltzik
      January 4, 2023 at 12:31 am | #

      And just how high a bar is that?

      • Yotomoe
        Yotomoe
        January 4, 2023 at 12:45 am | #

        o3o if a girl walked up and said “I like you” I might marry them.

        • milu
          milu
          January 4, 2023 at 7:11 am | #

          Awwww Yoto! No!

          …insist on explicit posterboards at least

  10. BBCC
    BBCC
    January 4, 2023 at 12:05 am | #

    I’m sure it was, Robin. I’m sure it was.

  11. Doctor_Who
    Doctor_Who
    January 4, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

    Leslie: Jason, I found you a job. I figure either you’re a reformed individual and deserve this chance, or you’re not and deserve this punishment.

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      January 4, 2023 at 7:26 am | #

      Best theory I’ve heard yet. I’m now behind this plan.

  12. Stephen Bierce
    Stephen Bierce
    January 4, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

    So Q: do the campus admins know about Robin’s restraining order hijinks? Or do they have plausible denial on tap in case Robin does something of a stickier public embarrasment fashion?

    • Thag Simmons
      Thag Simmons
      January 4, 2023 at 12:11 am | #

      They hired after her numerous political fiascos so they probably do not care

      • Doctor_Who
        Doctor_Who
        January 4, 2023 at 12:13 am | #

        One of which involved her refusing to leave the house of a member of their own staff who now has to work alongside her.

        Zero fucks given.

        • Sirksome
          Sirksome
          January 4, 2023 at 12:20 am | #

          At this point I just assume basically everyone holding any position of responsibility or authority is either corrupt or incompetent in this comic, with few exceptions. People like Leslie or Jackson, or Joyce’s pharmacist end up only proving the rule.

          • Taffy
            Taffy
            January 4, 2023 at 12:27 am | #

            Everything you said, right up until “in this comic”, tbh.

            Also, what’s wrong with the pharmacist? The worst we’ve seen her do is wrongly believe some teenagers were gay.

            • Sirksome
              Sirksome
              January 4, 2023 at 12:35 am | #

              There’s nothing wrong with her. That’s the point. Leslie’s a good teacher, Jackson (aka Jacob’s older brother) is a good lawyer, and pharmacist is also good. But good competent adults like them are few and far between.

            • The Wellerman
              The Wellerman
              January 4, 2023 at 12:35 am | #

              Yeah, I’m confused too. :/

              The pharmacist may not have been completely mistaken tho :3

            • Yumi
              Yumi
              January 4, 2023 at 12:46 am | #

              The decorations at the pharmacy weren’t the best, though not sure if they were her decision or if she had any say over them being put up at all.

              • The Wellerman
                The Wellerman
                January 4, 2023 at 12:51 am | #

                Yeah, considering the effort put into them to make them more progressive actually made them WORSE, you could have sworn Roz did them 😮

          • Rose by Any Other Name
            Rose by Any Other Name
            January 4, 2023 at 12:40 am | #

            Leslie is an adjunct. She has basically no responsibility or authority.

            … hence her relative goodness, I suppose.
            Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
            Minimal power corrupts minimally, I guess?

            • Taffy
              Taffy
              January 4, 2023 at 1:02 am | #

              Minimal power corrupts even more absolutely than absolute power, if my experience with retail/fast food management is anything to go by.

              • wwwhhattt
                wwwhhattt
                January 4, 2023 at 1:12 am | #

                I used to volunteer at a charity shop, and the power struggles between the little old ladies were spectacular

                • Dana
                  Dana
                  January 4, 2023 at 1:36 am | #

                  There’s a Henry Kissinger quote to the effect of that academic politics are vicious precisely because they don’t matter. Sorry to bust out a quote from a war criminal, but it seemed apropos.

              • Needfuldoer
                Needfuldoer
                January 4, 2023 at 2:08 am | #

                They’re just riding the “big fish in a small pond” high they get by having a modicum of control in their sad, pathetic lives. They haven’t had that since high school!

              • Tan
                Tan
                January 4, 2023 at 12:30 pm | #

                There is a distinction to be made here between those corrupted by power (that is, an otherwise basically good person who, within the trappings of power, loses sight of what it means to be the common person subject to the whims of the powerful)

                versus those who seek out power, great or small, for the purpose of using it against their “lessers”, because they are entitled, petty, vicious assholes who consider the concept of basic human empathy a weakness.

                The former, if removed from power, will come to regret their actions. The latter will at most only ever regret that they personally suffer consequences.

                • Taffy
                  Taffy
                  January 4, 2023 at 6:02 pm | #

                  Funny enough, that’s pretty close to how I distinguish people from hostile non-person humanoids.

                  You’re right, though. It’s an important distinction, because a good person who realises they’ve strayed off the path is able to course-correct and go back to doing the right thing with their power and/or authority (at any level). The other category just wants to hurt others and maybe watch a number go up on their bank account.

  13. Taffy
    Taffy
    January 4, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

    Yeah but celebrities aren’t human, so it doesn’t count. If they didn’t want maniacs slobbering all over ’em, they shouldn’t have been hot on a screen.

    /s

    • Proxiehunter
      Proxiehunter
      January 4, 2023 at 12:35 am | #

      Mr. The Frog, we all agreed a celebrity is not a people.

  14. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    January 4, 2023 at 12:09 am | #

    Jason Mantzoukas didn’t call the restraining order because it was inappropriate and gross. He was just really mad when he realized it wasn’t for him. He had just called his mom to say “Mother, I think I just found my future wife”

    • Mollyscribbles
      Mollyscribbles
      January 4, 2023 at 12:18 am | #

      you beat me to it! He would absolutely see the chaotic energy aura as a plus but realizing it was intended for someone else would sour his mood.

    • milu
      milu
      January 4, 2023 at 7:18 am | #

      He got the judge to set the restraining order at 100 feet as a challenge. You can still woo someone with saucy posterboards at 100 feet, just takes some big-ass posterboards.

      And by “big-ass”, i mean,

  15. Pocky
    Pocky
    January 4, 2023 at 12:11 am | #

    So is that a “no” on hiring the sex pest?

  16. DailyBrad
    DailyBrad
    January 4, 2023 at 12:13 am | #

    A lot of folks are real into Jason Mantzoukas. This is only tangentially related to anything, but it feels worth mentioning.

    • milu
      milu
      January 4, 2023 at 7:24 am | #

      Guilty. i just read his wikipedia bio and while i would’ve totally done some modest posterboarding on his ass before that, I’m just about reading to bust out the sharpies right now

      That dude seems rad.

      • milu
        milu
        January 4, 2023 at 7:35 am | #

        Ready*

  17. foducool
    foducool
    January 4, 2023 at 12:17 am | #

    just the normal kind of pest

  18. Mollyscribbles
    Mollyscribbles
    January 4, 2023 at 12:17 am | #

    Jason Mantzoukas might have reacted differently had the posterboards not been clearly intended for someone else.

  19. C.T. Phipps
    C.T. Phipps
    January 4, 2023 at 12:24 am | #

    Robin had 3 houses and apparently only got into Congress as a way to grift money as the Cheeto did from his followers. So, it’s possible Robin is extraordinarily rich and donated a huge chunk of money to buy a professorship.

    Why?

    SO SHE COULD BE CLOSE TO LESLIE.

  20. Kravis
    Kravis
    January 4, 2023 at 12:47 am | #

    If Robin had the right house perhaps by now she and Oscar Isaac could be enacting their own… “Scenes from a Marriage”.

  21. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    January 4, 2023 at 1:02 am | #

    Spilled water on my laptop earlier, thought it’d be fine but still thouroughly wiped it down with a towel. It was working fine until suddenly it started freaking out and shut down accompanied by a slight burning smell.

    SO I may very well have destroyed my computer.

    • Laura
      Laura
      January 4, 2023 at 1:19 am | #

      Eep!

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      January 4, 2023 at 1:52 am | #

      Pressing F to pay respects.

      Remove the battery and SSD, leave the rest of it propped open for a few days. At the very least, your data should be okay.

    • The Wellerman
      The Wellerman
      January 4, 2023 at 1:55 am | #

      🥺🫡

    • Now
      Now
      January 4, 2023 at 3:22 am | #

      Oh, I did the same in 2022! Spilled water, turned the laptop off, tried to dry it, and then had the hubris to believe that I must have dried it so correctly that I didn’t have to wait 24 hours for it to really get dry on his own, and when I tried to turn it on again my BIOS killed itself in flames. Took my wifi chip with it! The whole motherboard had to be replaced, that was not fun. Hope you have the spare money to get the repairs done, and hope you’ll be okay!

    • Axel
      Axel
      January 4, 2023 at 4:29 am | #

      When this happened to me I disconnected power (including removing the battery), let it dry, then rebooted. Might be too late but also might work? (that laptop went on to live for like 7 more years)

    • milu
      milu
      January 4, 2023 at 7:31 am | #

      Aw fuck, sorry to hear that.
      It was coffee for me that one time, and i only had to replace the keyboard layer thankfully. Yeah, worst case your data is probably fine. pull out the hard disk/ssd and get some cheap external hard disk case (they cost like 10$).

      Fingers crossed 🤞

  22. Icalasari
    Icalasari
    January 4, 2023 at 1:05 am | #

    Wow, that was quite a punchline! Robin seeming as if they were becoming a better person only to reveal she only thought she messed up because she got the wrong address instead of it being because she showed explicit images (of herself?) on poster board to people

    • BOOSTER SHOT
      BOOSTER SHOT
      January 4, 2023 at 10:20 am | #

      My guess is she showed up with naked Poe Dameron drawings at Jankum Pogg’s house

    • S.R.
      S.R.
      January 5, 2023 at 11:51 am | #

      I mean, there is a circumstance or two under which that would probably be fine. If you’re already dating the person whose house you’re outside, can reasonably expect them to appreciate the posterboards, and make sure you don’t show anyone else on the way there, that seems acceptable.
      (Granted, this does not seem to have been the case.)

  23. Aura
    Aura
    January 4, 2023 at 1:13 am | #

    Does anyone know if DYW adds the alt text at the time of uploading the comic or closer to when it goes live? Just wondering how much of a coincidence it is (if at all) that he was talking about watching Star Wars recently and then we get this.

  24. Raptorofwar
    Raptorofwar
    January 4, 2023 at 2:24 am | #

    I still ship them and I don’t know why.

    • milu
      milu
      January 4, 2023 at 7:42 am | #

      Because their every interaction is hilarious? 🤷‍♀️

  25. tofusmith
    tofusmith
    January 4, 2023 at 2:42 am | #

    Ten years ago: “Robin is supposed to be a member of congress??!”

    Now: “Oh, right. Robin is supposed to be a member of congress.”

    • Icalasari
      Icalasari
      January 4, 2023 at 6:08 am | #

      Seems Willis knew what Congress is really like

  26. Imogen
    Imogen
    January 4, 2023 at 4:21 am | #

    People take this comic so seriously sometimes. Robin’s a delight.

    • shrub
      shrub
      January 4, 2023 at 5:27 am | #

      If Robin was portrayed as an unattractive man would you still think he’s delightful?

      • Zaxares
        Zaxares
        January 4, 2023 at 5:54 am | #

        Alas, this is true. There’s a LOT of stuff in the real world that people get away with just because they’re super hot/attractive. (Or rich.)

        • milu
          milu
          January 4, 2023 at 7:37 am | #

          Proving OP’s point there, guys

      • Taffy
        Taffy
        January 4, 2023 at 8:39 am | #

        What if she was portrayed as an actual literal robin, as in the bird? Not a magic talking bird with people brains, just an ordinary bird-ass bird.

        Neither scenario is part of this comic, so they’re both equally valid.

        • Yotomoe
          Yotomoe
          January 4, 2023 at 9:48 am | #

          I might like her more actually. Robin’s are a really cute bird.

        • milu
          milu
          January 4, 2023 at 11:21 am | #

          maybe she’s been bitten by a radioactive bird of paradise though, and that’s why her courtship rituals are so unhinged

        • Imogen
          Imogen
          January 4, 2023 at 9:09 pm | #

          this made me question everything in my worldview. thanks a lot.

      • Yotomoe
        Yotomoe
        January 4, 2023 at 9:49 am | #

        How unattractive we talkin’? Like if he was just monstrously ugly then yeah, I probably wouldn’t like him much cuz he’d be hard to look at.

      • BOOSTER SHOT
        BOOSTER SHOT
        January 4, 2023 at 10:19 am | #

        Yes, if I had over a decade of familiarity with the character and had already seen the character go through similar plot arcs multiple times?

      • The Oracle
        The Oracle
        January 4, 2023 at 4:10 pm | #

        What a stupid fucking question. You’ve invented an entirely separate scenario to get judgemental over.

        “My husband baked a delicious pumpkin pie for dessert last night.” “If it was overseasoned lutefisk, would you still think it’s a delicious dessert?”

        • milu
          milu
          January 4, 2023 at 5:29 pm | #

          whoah there. commenters are still people, buddy.

          • The Oracle
            The Oracle
            January 4, 2023 at 5:42 pm | #

            Who said anything about anyone not being a person? 🤨 Let’s not make things into something they aren’t.

            • milu
              milu
              January 4, 2023 at 5:48 pm | #

              i’m saying your aggressivity was uncalled for.

              • milu
                milu
                January 4, 2023 at 5:49 pm | #

                unless you have some sort of history with that commenter i’m unaware of

              • The Oracle
                The Oracle
                January 4, 2023 at 5:56 pm | #

                What, because I said fuck? I don’t need prior history with a person to bring up how ridiculous they’re being.

          • Yumi
            Yumi
            January 4, 2023 at 6:12 pm | #

            Yeah, what? This was kind of a weird response that felt more out-there to me than the exchange being commented on.

            • The Oracle
              The Oracle
              January 4, 2023 at 6:21 pm | #

              Alright, so maybe it wasn’t strictly called for to swear about it, but I still don’t understand where the “not people” concept is coming from.

              • Yumi
                Yumi
                January 4, 2023 at 6:24 pm | #

                Oh, no, I was responding to milu. I thought your comment was maybe a little more intense, and the comparison wasn’t great, but I get the underlying point and irritation. I don’t understand what triggered milu’s reaction either.

              • Yotomoe
                Yotomoe
                January 4, 2023 at 6:25 pm | #

                It’s a turn of phrase. Like “Teachers are people too”. It just means “Treat people nicely.” It’s not insinuating you said they weren’t a person. It’s a call to action to realize you should be more polite when speaking to people.

                • The Oracle
                  The Oracle
                  January 4, 2023 at 6:30 pm | #

                  Damn it, I hate turns of phrase. They’re like conversational landmines. Thanks for the explanation, I honestly didn’t understand.

                • Yumi
                  Yumi
                  January 4, 2023 at 6:35 pm | #

                  That’s honestly not how I’ve experienced that phrase. Like, yeah, the end goal of “x are people too” is to get x-group to be treated with more respect, but the phrase itself is more… what it says on the tin.

                • milu
                  milu
                  January 4, 2023 at 7:32 pm | #

                  yeah what Yoto said. then again, sure, that was a silly question. worth
                  yelling at? ymmv i guess. it felt benighted enough to me that i was happy just rolling my eyes, but yeah. tone policing bad. please ignore me

                • Yumi
                  Yumi
                  January 4, 2023 at 8:10 pm | #

                  It seemed strange to me that you joined in on mocking the comment upthread, but then The Oracle’s more direct response was “yelling” that needed… yeah, “policing.” And also that your interpretation of the phrase that you used to do so is not universal… I feel I’m usually onboard with the things I see you post here, milu, so yeah, I found this weird.

                • milu
                  milu
                  January 4, 2023 at 8:28 pm | #

                  yeah, i also tend to trust your reads, so thanks for the vibe check. guess i’m a bit tired and on edge lately. just got randomly ticked off. welp, sorry about that.

                • The Oracle
                  The Oracle
                  January 4, 2023 at 10:42 pm | #

                  It’s really nothing to worry about, to be honest. I was mostly confused. And hey, who’s not a little tired and on edge, these days?

  27. Imogen
    Imogen
    January 4, 2023 at 4:22 am | #

    Is it just me, or is there a weird blurring effect when I scroll around on my phone? It’s centralized on Robin’s hair.

    • milu
      milu
      January 4, 2023 at 7:38 am | #

      Just you i think?

      • Imogen
        Imogen
        January 4, 2023 at 9:10 pm | #

        Ooh, it happens with any black colors in DoA on my phone. I thought it was a weird “Robin superspeed” joke.

  28. Lone Duck
    Lone Duck
    January 4, 2023 at 4:33 am | #

    The irony to me is that Jason Mantzoukas would probably be bothered less by posterboard nudes than Oscar Isaac. I guess that’s evident given that she only got a restraining order.

    • Alex
      Alex
      January 4, 2023 at 2:48 pm | #

      I now have to google who both of those people are.

      • Taffy
        Taffy
        January 4, 2023 at 5:44 pm | #

        Some guy from Star Wars and some guy from nothing I’ve ever watched.

  29. Suet
    Suet
    January 4, 2023 at 4:34 am | #

    Mantzie exudes Mad Dog vibes, so him giving Robin an RO feels very outta place.

    I should be watching Suburbicon, but not solely coz of the Oscar mention

  30. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    January 4, 2023 at 5:18 am | #

    point noses !

  31. Derek
    Derek
    January 4, 2023 at 6:34 am | #

    Aaaaaaand the final panel shows why Robin is the worst: because she refuses to learn even consequences slap her in the face. I guess it’s a dark political commentary that instead of being in jail by the time she’s 30 she was a representative of the US government, but man I’m not laughing. She really does think she lives in a wacky comedy movie and behaves accordingly

    • jpnr
      jpnr
      January 4, 2023 at 7:18 am | #

      Is she really wrong?

    • Ed Callahan
      Ed Callahan
      January 4, 2023 at 7:57 am | #

      She knows she lives in a wacky online comic strip. One of the reasons I like the character.

      • Wendy
        Wendy
        January 4, 2023 at 9:18 am | #

        Yeah. People seem to forget that a lot.

        • Derek
          Derek
          January 4, 2023 at 5:37 pm | #

          I don’t forget that Robin is a fictional character in a comic strip; but if I’m reading a work of fiction that brings certain gravitas, then I treat my reading of the characters and their actions with the same level of seriousness. I don’t do a criminal justice analysis on my little pony characters and I don’t watch the godfather saying “tee hee those silly Italians”.

          This is a webcomic that has subjects like racism, rape culture, parental abuse and domestic violence; but when Robin comes on we’re supposed to forget all that?

          • Taffy
            Taffy
            January 4, 2023 at 5:44 pm | #

            Yes.

            • Derek
              Derek
              January 5, 2023 at 7:59 am | #

              if so then that’s bad writing, man

          • Mr. Random
            Mr. Random
            January 4, 2023 at 7:14 pm | #

            Like how Ruth in the “Roomies!” Strips was much more violent and cruel but we laughed more at her antics.
            Wheras the tone of DoA shows the more grounded toxicity of her actions.

          • thejeff
            thejeff
            January 4, 2023 at 9:24 pm | #

            But I think the specific point that people forget here isn’t that Robin is a fictional character in a comic, but that Robin knows it. I don’t think that’s really canon, but Robin does act like she knows she lives in a wacky comic strip and the universe generally bends itself to accommodate.

          • Nono
            Nono
            January 4, 2023 at 9:25 pm | #

            It’s part of the reason people were thrown off by the more serious Amazi-Girl storylines. Tonal shifts aside from the slice-of-life college story, you had feats that would not be feasible in reality because of physics being done because uhhh superhero.

      • Derek
        Derek
        January 4, 2023 at 5:30 pm | #

        Is this a wacky comedy strip or is this a more serious down-to-earth one that deals with subjects like date rape, misogyny, homophobia tied with parental abuse and the indoctrination of children into doom cults; with occasional humour to ease the tension?
        (because I was under the impression that it was the latter)

        It has to be one or the other, because trying to be both will undermine each to their detriment. We already have some wackiness with Joyce and her teleportation abilities; but Robin is like having a freaking Looney Tunes character in a live-action drama. She stands out like a sore thumb, and her mere presence belies the idea that we’re reading something remotely serious.

        • Yumi
          Yumi
          January 4, 2023 at 6:06 pm | #

          It’s fine not to like media that combines both, but I really don’t think “it has to be one or the other.” I’m fine with media that does that; it being detrimental is subjective.

          • Taffy
            Taffy
            January 4, 2023 at 6:14 pm | #

            The Lord of the Rings does it too, a bit. There’s intergenerational tension, attempted genocide, people getting their heads put on spikes, undead everywhere, and it’s all next to things like Merry and Pippin dancing on tables, Tom Bombadil’s entire existence, and all the incessant singing. Choosing to be Just One Thing is fine, and plenty of people have made it work spectacularly, but there’s absolutely no reason whatsoever that fiction has to be done that way.

            • Yumi
              Yumi
              January 4, 2023 at 6:22 pm | #

              Peopled will describe DoA as “wacky” or a comedy at times and as a drama at others. To me, it easily falls into a space of a dramady, which isn’t, like, an unheard of concept– there’s a fuckin established portmanteau for it. My favorite show of this genre is probably Scrubs, so that was my internal point of comparison when reading these comments.

              • Taffy
                Taffy
                January 4, 2023 at 6:26 pm | #

                I’ve only seen a couple episodes of Scrubs (I know, I know, mandatory viewing, blegh), but what little I remember does tend to have that vibe to it. I’ve never really seen a need for a piece to be only one thing, and I think this comic does a perfectly fine job balancing the two extremes. Most of the time, anyway.

              • thejeff
                thejeff
                January 4, 2023 at 9:20 pm | #

                There are definitely tonal shifts with this comic that throw some people. Happened to a lot of people with the superhero arcs – particularly the big kidnappings. Robin’s another big focus – people’s reactions to the arc with her squatting at Leslie’s varied widely depending on how seriously they could take Robin.

                I guess sometimes it’s individuals overreacting and sometimes it’s the strip itself misfiring on the balance.

    • BOOSTER SHOT
      BOOSTER SHOT
      January 4, 2023 at 10:17 am | #

      She thinks that way because she is , obviously, correct. In every webcomic she has been in, what you describe has more or less been her roll. Less in Walky, much more in Shortpacked to the point that she and her relationship to consequences and emotional realities is kind of the main character arc of the entire comic.

      Of course, in DoA, she is a third string character and any revelations about Drama Tags and the pulling thereof will have to be strictly metaphorical. So her character arc this time is going to take much, much longer.

      • Derek
        Derek
        January 4, 2023 at 5:42 pm | #

        Her role really really doesn’t mesh well with this strip and Willis has realized it and tried to rectify it when it became incredibly clear that Trump analogies are not funny anymore when he’s causing real harm and inspiring Nazis around the country to organize.
        Why get rid of Mike and not her?

        • Taffy
          Taffy
          January 4, 2023 at 5:52 pm | #

          For some reason, I don’t think killing off Robin instead of Mike would have gone over well with readers. We already get people accusing Willis of the Bury Your Gays trope because Mike was queer-shaped. With Robin dying, we’d get all that, plus more.

        • BOOSTER SHOT
          BOOSTER SHOT
          January 5, 2023 at 8:51 pm | #

          Because Mike’s usual character arcs are more out of place in DoA than Robin’s “oh right my actions have consequences” arc that we are seeing play out again, just much slower. Which is fine, since she’s not a main character. She got Shortpacked!

          Also, unless you are one of the keen ones who was against Trump but predicted his win, in which case, fair dues, I don’t think it’s really fair to hold “failing to predict the over the top failson politician with an eerily similar air to a horrible racist version of their own character actually wins and would have secured a second term too if not for a global plague” against Willis. “Realizing Trump jokes aren’t funny” seems like a really unfair way to describe what happened. Trump was supposed to lose and fall off the radar, and the same could happen to Robin. Of course, reality got weird for many.

  32. jpnr
    jpnr
    January 4, 2023 at 7:18 am | #

    I want to see the posterboards.

  33. milu
    milu
    January 4, 2023 at 7:54 am | #

    Real talk, is Leslie piqued here at least in part because she initially heard Robin calling herself a “sex pest” as an admission that she had totally been trying to get into her pants?

    Real talk– did Robin do it on purpose???

  34. AGV
    AGV
    January 4, 2023 at 8:08 am | #

    Robin truly is a self sabotage pro

  35. Rabisch
    Rabisch
    January 4, 2023 at 9:35 am | #

    Leslie really hoped Robin had realized that mistake as well. Who knows, maybe one day Robin will understand. Maybe.

  36. huesatlight
    huesatlight
    January 4, 2023 at 9:58 am | #

    There’s a non-zero chance Robin is an unreliable narrator. Think what Joe or Walky (or some real life people you might know) might do after they shared an uncomfortable truth about themselves.

  37. BOOSTER SHOT
    BOOSTER SHOT
    January 4, 2023 at 10:11 am | #

    JANKUM POGG DOESN’T UNDERSTAND THESE DRAWINGS. Jankum will just hit them with a hammer.

  38. The Oracle
    The Oracle
    January 4, 2023 at 4:14 pm | #

    The question is, what did she draw on those poster boards? We need details.

  39. Cattleprod
    Cattleprod
    January 4, 2023 at 11:56 pm | #

    I never considered that someone would confuse Isaac and Mantzoukas but now I want to see them play brothers.

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