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Nuanced

by David M Willis on May 19, 2023 at 12:01 am
  • 04 – But Don't Give Yourself Away
└ Tags: joe, joyce

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  1. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    May 19, 2023 at 12:05 am | #

    speedrunning Character Development, Moseth Rothenberg, Any%, est. <1 week

    (Joe having mixed feelings about being a prize to be won)

    • Dana
      Dana
      May 19, 2023 at 12:09 am | #

      It’s not that, it’s that the construction on those bears is shit.

      • BarerMender
        BarerMender
        May 19, 2023 at 12:13 am | #

        It might be that you don’t boff teddy bears. And Joe wants to get boffed.

        • Yotomoe
          Yotomoe
          May 19, 2023 at 1:08 am | #

          I’ve seen videos that prove otherwise.

          • Clif
            Clif
            May 19, 2023 at 1:56 am | #

            I’ve gone to great lengths to not see the videos that prove otherwise, but I’ve never doubted for a second they exist.

            • Concolor44
              Concolor44
              May 19, 2023 at 11:20 am | #

              AMEN

          • Decidedly Orthogonal
            Decidedly Orthogonal
            May 20, 2023 at 11:45 am | #

            It is highly advised that you report these to the Teddy Bear Liberation Front and fully co-operate with the subsequent investigations.

        • Ryan
          Ryan
          May 19, 2023 at 1:14 am | #

          Wilfred

          • RassilonTDavros
            RassilonTDavros
            May 19, 2023 at 6:19 pm | #

            …what?

        • Psychie
          Psychie
          May 20, 2023 at 6:14 am | #

          I think you and I might have differing definitions of “boff”, as I get the impression you are referencing a sex thing, but personally boffing is to hit something with a homemade foam sword, commonly referred to as a boffer, and that is absolutely something I have done to multiple teddy bears.

          As an aside, I had a LARP character who wielded a staff named Teddy (the staff was named Teddy, not the character, his name is Don but he hasn’t been able to wield a staff since shortly after his right arm turned into a tentacle, even since it has reverted back to an arm… I miss my tentacle, but I have the means to get a new one now, so that’s cool). A few years ago I got a wooden cudgel to carry IRL for self-defense purposes that I have also named Teddy for the same reasons, the cudgel is not a boffer, as it is solid wood, but the staff was since I constructed it out of foam, PVC pipe, and duct tape to be safe to whack people with at a LARP.

  2. NGPZ
    NGPZ
    May 19, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

    Awe so sweet these two 😍

    Also is it just me or did the server time iceberg shift once again

    • True Survivor
      True Survivor
      May 19, 2023 at 12:09 am | #

      It wasn’t a titanic shift, but I think so. Also, yes – yes they are.

  3. Switchchris
    Switchchris
    May 19, 2023 at 12:07 am | #

    I like this Joyce, Understanding/accepting your feelings as what they are and being comfortable with them does wonders for her lol.

    • Lumino
      Lumino
      May 19, 2023 at 2:29 pm | #

      Right? This is the most well adjusted I’ve seen Joyce since the comic started. Been waiting for the other shoe to drop, but it doesn’t feel like it’s gonna.

  4. True Survivor
    True Survivor
    May 19, 2023 at 12:08 am | #

    Naw, Joe loves it ‘faux shawl’

    • thakoru
      thakoru
      May 19, 2023 at 5:24 pm | #

      👏

  5. BBCC
    BBCC
    May 19, 2023 at 12:08 am | #

    Word on the street is tough, Joe.

  6. Stephen Bierce
    Stephen Bierce
    May 19, 2023 at 12:08 am | #

    *cues up the Rod Stewart*

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      May 19, 2023 at 2:25 am | #

      It’s been a long road
      Gettin’ from there to here
      It’s been a long time
      But my time is finally near

      • Marianne
        Marianne
        May 19, 2023 at 2:29 am | #

        Romulan shenanigans detected off the starboard bow!

  7. Chaucer59
    Chaucer59
    May 19, 2023 at 12:10 am | #

    Word on the street isn’t just wrong. It’s WRONG-O!

  8. jeffepp
    jeffepp
    May 19, 2023 at 12:11 am | #

    Now I have the image of Joyce draped across his shoulders the way a cat will. With legs on one side, arms on the other, and belly behind his head.

    • Yotomoe
      Yotomoe
      May 19, 2023 at 12:24 am | #

      Does she dig her claws in?

      • Schpoonman
        Schpoonman
        May 19, 2023 at 7:04 am | #

        Only if Joe asks her to.

    • Angel
      Angel
      May 19, 2023 at 9:29 pm | #

      i kinda wanna see dina back on his back too at the same time and see how long he can hold them both up lol

  9. RassilonTDavros
    RassilonTDavros
    May 19, 2023 at 12:12 am | #

    Honestly, I’m with Joyce, this hairstyle is way better. The fact that he doesn’t have the same hair style as Richard anymore does a nice job of symbolizing Joe emerging from the shadow of his father’s toxic influence on him.

    • Shrub
      Shrub
      May 19, 2023 at 12:14 am | #

      Good point

    • True Survivor
      True Survivor
      May 19, 2023 at 12:15 am | #

      I never noticed this detail. That is great insight.

  10. Shrub
    Shrub
    May 19, 2023 at 12:15 am | #

    I just really like seeing Joyce this happy, I’ve had a shit couple of months so this is just a nice little pick me up

    • True Survivor
      True Survivor
      May 19, 2023 at 9:14 am | #

      I am so sorry to hear that. I hope things turn around for you soon.

    • woobie
      woobie
      May 20, 2023 at 2:08 am | #

      This is DoA; it won’t last.

  11. PB
    PB
    May 19, 2023 at 12:16 am | #

    Yeah, these two are as cute as I hoped 🥰

    • RacingTurtle
      RacingTurtle
      May 19, 2023 at 1:31 am | #

      SO CUTE

  12. Juanoku
    Juanoku
    May 19, 2023 at 12:16 am | #

    Yeah no this hair is way better than that solid brick

    • Nono
      Nono
      May 19, 2023 at 12:20 am | #

      Maybe Mike could have gotten Ethan if he scruffed his hair up a bit.

      • darkgloomie
        darkgloomie
        May 19, 2023 at 1:33 am | #

        Mike did get Ethan, though???

        • Miri
          Miri
          May 19, 2023 at 4:28 am | #

          Mike and Ethan had sex. Then Ethan moved on having assumed that when Mike approached him for a boredom hook-up he could take that at face value/if there was anything else going on it was an attempted power play he would undermine by doing so. And had reached a point in his crush on Mike and their complicated friendship where he was genuinely OK with that.

          Mike… May well have actually had strong feelings for Ethan he never got around to expressing in words, beyond blurting out to splitting-Ambi-girl before losing consciousness from a fatally traumatic head injury that they were awesome friends.

  13. adam Black
    adam Black
    May 19, 2023 at 12:18 am | #

    I think this implies Joyce has a Fred Flintstone fetish

    • True Survivor
      True Survivor
      May 19, 2023 at 12:20 am | #

      Is that why she wants Joe to Yabba-Dabba-Do her?

    • RassilonTDavros
      RassilonTDavros
      May 19, 2023 at 12:22 am | #

      Deep down, some part of her wants to have A Gay Old Time.

    • Yotomoe
      Yotomoe
      May 19, 2023 at 12:22 am | #

      He’ll certainly make her Bed Rock

    • SailorCakes
      SailorCakes
      May 19, 2023 at 11:04 am | #

      Their courtship will go down in history

  14. Suet
    Suet
    May 19, 2023 at 12:18 am | #

    Plus she wants to maintain Seth’s look, she doesn’t want another problem on her hands like sorting things out with the EIC… WHY DIDN’T SHE PUT A DATE ON HER COMICS LIKE GARFIELD GRAAAAAHHH

    Man on the street says double dare Joyce to do a six-month buffer for maximum chaos

  15. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    May 19, 2023 at 12:20 am | #

    I want what they have. I waaant what they Haaaave.

    • Angel
      Angel
      May 19, 2023 at 9:43 pm | #

      i’m sure you’ll find someone (but if not, i think you could still have close relationships with platonic friends) I’d love a piggyback ride from my platonic friends

  16. AbacusWizard
    AbacusWizard
    May 19, 2023 at 12:26 am | #

    Speaking as a big floofy guy with a smol significant other, my advice for Joe is: learn to enjoy being the oversized teddy bear she won at the fair. It is a good life.

  17. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    May 19, 2023 at 12:30 am | #

    Fun fact. I have slept with a giant teddy bear since I was a kid. I should get rid of it but its legit more comfy than my pillows.

    • NGPZ
      NGPZ
      May 19, 2023 at 12:43 am | #

      😊 Awe. What’s their name?

      • Yotomoe
        Yotomoe
        May 19, 2023 at 12:44 am | #

        Barry

    • Leorale
      Leorale
      May 19, 2023 at 12:46 am | #

      True fact: You do not have to get rid of your giant comfy bear.

      • GholaHalleck
        GholaHalleck
        May 19, 2023 at 1:01 am | #

        I had A Moment with my SO because they also slept with a giant carnival bear and the first time I was given Bedroom Clearance the very first thing out of my mouth was “I see my coming here has been foretold.”

        I may be both fuzzy, large, and eminently snuggable.

        • StClair
          StClair
          May 19, 2023 at 2:56 am | #

          I love this story, and that line in particular.

    • NGPZ
      NGPZ
      May 19, 2023 at 1:01 am | #

      Guh I wanted to comment on that name but the server keeps eating my messages.

    • Tan
      Tan
      May 19, 2023 at 1:33 am | #

      You should not get rid of your giant teddybear, but you should wash it.

      • Yotomoe
        Yotomoe
        May 19, 2023 at 2:36 am | #

        Naw his time has come. He’s got a big hole in his back and he lost a lot of stuffing. I cant wash him without killing him.

        • NGPZ
          NGPZ
          May 19, 2023 at 2:40 am | #

          Oh no! 🥺

          Do you know someone who knows how to sow?

          • SailorCakes
            SailorCakes
            May 19, 2023 at 11:11 am | #

            I know how to sew….

        • laura
          laura
          May 19, 2023 at 11:56 am | #

          My mom is 77 and still sleeps with her teddy bear from when she was tiny.
          She’s resurfaced him many times from scraps of cloth, but he’s still the same old bear.

          • thejeff
            thejeff
            May 19, 2023 at 1:01 pm | #

            The Bear of Theseus.

        • Angel
          Angel
          May 19, 2023 at 9:31 pm | #

          i’m sure you can clean him without doing too much damage , be nice if a build-a bear would let you restuff your own animals but yeah it would be nice to get someone who knew how to sew, or just buy some patches you could like, staple over /frakenstein other fabrics on to it lol

    • SailorCakes
      SailorCakes
      May 19, 2023 at 11:08 am | #

      If it makes you feel any better I’m 33 and still have my baby blanket…..

    • Hazel
      Hazel
      May 19, 2023 at 12:55 pm | #

      If I ever get stupid-rich I’m gonna buy a life-size Snorlax.

  18. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    May 19, 2023 at 12:44 am | #

    Miho is that you 😀

    • Taffy
      Taffy
      May 19, 2023 at 12:52 am | #

      From Season Zero?

  19. DailyBrad
    DailyBrad
    May 19, 2023 at 12:55 am | #

    I love this, and I am willing to bet he does, too, he’s just self-conscious.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      May 19, 2023 at 2:27 am | #

      Absolutely. No question about that.

      • Council
        Council
        May 19, 2023 at 8:50 am | #

        He can like it And be upset at the same time

        We contain multitudes!

        His multitudes are big and cuddly and I love them

  20. NGPZ
    NGPZ
    May 19, 2023 at 12:59 am | #

    Hey is the server eating up messages for anyone else or just me?

  21. NGPZ
    NGPZ
    May 19, 2023 at 1:07 am | #

    @Yotomoe Barry. So cute! 🥰🧸

    • Yotomoe
      Yotomoe
      May 19, 2023 at 1:09 am | #

      Accidentally flagged. Anyway thabjs. Its like Bear.

      • NGPZ
        NGPZ
        May 19, 2023 at 1:14 am | #

        Awe no worries. And haha yea I noticed 😊

  22. TheKelliestKelly
    TheKelliestKelly
    May 19, 2023 at 1:20 am | #

    I was under the impression Joyce had a larger buffer than that

    • RacingTurtle
      RacingTurtle
      May 19, 2023 at 1:30 am | #

      She’s got Julia Gray Space Force stories, but she might not have all the pre-Space Force college shenanigans she’s hoping for done yet

    • Reltzik
      Reltzik
      May 19, 2023 at 1:33 am | #

      DoA time. A week ago she was world-building her comic and competing with Walky for the spot in the paper. (Actually she got the slot 8 days ago… I think? 8 chapters ago, did we skip a day or two in there?)

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        May 19, 2023 at 8:04 am | #

        No timeskips, but one of those chapters was the Halloween flashback.

        Sounds to me that “like a week” would still be the initial drop of strips to Daisy when she got the gig.

      • laura
        laura
        May 19, 2023 at 12:00 pm | #

        And she apparently still hasn’t answered Jocelyn’sstrip. call from when she was scanning her comic strips.
        Chekov’s missed call!

    • DailyBrad
      DailyBrad
      May 19, 2023 at 3:20 am | #

      Life drawing classes maybe are cutting into that, both because it’s another use of her time and because it means she’s changing her art style up, which probably means going slower and also some of what she had done already maybe being below her new standards.

  23. Reltzik
    Reltzik
    May 19, 2023 at 1:29 am | #

    It always comes back to climbing with these two.

    Joyce, it’s called a Jungle Jim, not a Jungle Joe.

    .

    (Yes I know it’s gym just let me have my wordplay it’s all I’ve got.)

    • Mark
      Mark
      May 19, 2023 at 7:14 am | #

      “It’s your heat that makes me warm / makes me hang on you like a tree.”

    • laura
      laura
      May 19, 2023 at 11:58 am | #

      QC reference!

  24. Pongles
    Pongles
    May 19, 2023 at 1:33 am | #

    Don’t worry, she’ll just reboot the universe after this one has ran it’s course with her broadened worldview and upgraded writing skills.

  25. Now
    Now
    May 19, 2023 at 1:33 am | #

    Ah, to date a man that can pick you up and put you on the highest shelf.

    (I settled for one that I can pick up and then fireman-carry where I want, it’s a different sort of fun)

    • Zaxares
      Zaxares
      May 19, 2023 at 7:27 am | #

      Sadly, I suffered a back injury in my early thirties so I’ve had to tell several girlfriends that if they’re hoping for me to carry her across the threshold one of these days, they’re gonna be disappointed. XD

    • Sam
      Sam
      May 19, 2023 at 9:31 am | #

      Valid. A secure man that will accept being carried is also a good option. It just has a soft intimate type of feel to carry or be carried by a spouse.

  26. Needfuldoer
    Needfuldoer
    May 19, 2023 at 2:23 am | #

    aaaaaaaa these two

  27. SDRainbow
    SDRainbow
    May 19, 2023 at 2:48 am | #

    while this is Extremely Cute and I am very happy for them and have shipped them for quite some time

    my prediction is that they’re gonna run into trouble because Joyce is going to fall into easy patterns. she’s on track to get her MRS, no difficult religious upbringing to overcome here!! and joe is going to resent it

    • Angel
      Angel
      May 19, 2023 at 9:36 pm | #

      well her being an atheist now might help a bit but i can imagine thinking ahead about marriage and raising kids though

  28. Schpoonman
    Schpoonman
    May 19, 2023 at 7:06 am | #

    If I weren’t committed to cursed/meme gravatars panel 4 would be a strong contender.

  29. ian livs
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    May 19, 2023 at 8:24 am | #

    Aw, come on, Joe–cute girls calling you cute is, like, the highest compliment!

  30. Falcon
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    May 19, 2023 at 8:59 am | #

    Confirmation that Joe can feel free to settle into a Dad Bod while possibly becoming even more attractive to Joyce.

  31. HueSatLight
    HueSatLight
    May 19, 2023 at 10:47 am | #

    The carnival game she won him at was skeeze-ball.

  32. poyo
    poyo
    May 19, 2023 at 11:10 am | #

    uhhhhhhg they are so CUTE i hate it lmao

  33. Megan Rivera
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    May 19, 2023 at 11:49 am | #

    This storyline is pure serotonin for my brain hole ♥

    I love them together!

  34. bcb
    bcb
    May 19, 2023 at 12:12 pm | #

    Only a 1-week buffer? Joyce, ya gotta improve.

    • Daibhid C
      Daibhid C
      May 19, 2023 at 5:29 pm | #

      The less of a buffer there is, the fewer potential wrong orders there are for the strips to go in.

      Starting next week, Joyce will be handing the strips over one at a time, just before the paper goes to press.

  35. Claire
    Claire
    May 19, 2023 at 12:35 pm | #

    Help they are actually cute

  36. Rocketboy1313
    Rocketboy1313
    May 19, 2023 at 12:47 pm | #

    Boy this brings back memories of petite women that live rent free in many of my fun and sad memories.

    • Schpoonman
      Schpoonman
      May 19, 2023 at 6:42 pm | #

      Why you gotta call me out like that?

  37. hybrid2
    hybrid2
    May 19, 2023 at 8:39 pm | #

    So they are a couple now?
    With all the touching.

    • Angel
      Angel
      May 19, 2023 at 9:28 pm | #

      well they did kissi n an earlier strip

    • Schpoonman
      Schpoonman
      May 19, 2023 at 10:58 pm | #

      Joyce called Joe her boyfriend yesterday talking to Sal and Danny. I don’t remember a kiss.

      • NGPZ
        NGPZ
        May 19, 2023 at 11:57 pm | #

        on the cheek i think

  38. Kazuma Taichi
    Kazuma Taichi
    May 20, 2023 at 7:35 pm | #

    Joyce is being so cute like this I just can’t

    Also can confirm that draping over humans is enjoyable until the weight shifts and suddenly you realize their shoulder is in your solarplexus

  39. Felian
    Felian
    May 21, 2023 at 5:34 am | #

    i don’t wanna be too harsh on Joyce, but i’m getting weird vibes that remind me of straight relationships where the woman acts sweet and adoring, but is in fact trying to control the man into changing behaviours.
    It’s not at a harmful stage here, and i hope it won’t be!

  40. Hinoron
    Hinoron
    May 22, 2023 at 12:24 pm | #

    Why do women love dropping this line, “you know you love it” whenever they’re doing something we genuinely don’t like? Flip the gender roles and see if it doesn’t sound borderline monstrous to your own ear.
    It comes FROM somewhere, I’m sure? Some terribly romantic movie from the 80s or 90s that I’ve never felt compelled to see (or possibly heard of). What’s the source of this obnoxious fallacy?

    • Felian
      Felian
      May 22, 2023 at 8:35 pm | #

      yeah exactly (see my comment just above yours)
      i’ve seen this in couples…. it’s cringey to see women trying to “train“ their partner by completely ignoring his stated like/dislike of things…. :/

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