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In high school???
Who she talkin about? :o
Danny.
Dorothy would be talking about Danny
Dorothy dated Danny in high school.
of COURSE Jennifer still thinks AG is Sal XD
Danny has dated Sal. Checks out.
I swear even Skibidi Toilet is less airheaded than Jennifer at this point XD
You go to your room and you don’t come out until you’ve had a good long think about what you just said and why it’s hurtful to people with kids.
The kids don’t enter into it. It’s just a generally hurtful thing to say. Or write.
This sentence makes no fucking sense
tbf i JUST learned about Skibidi Toilets’ existence from students at my school’s GameMaker club for which I’m a TA,
I’m literally the personification of pokemon brain rot and i be like, “bruh what IS this?” like someone had an acid trip while working in Source Engine XD
Correction: Danny IS datING Sal – he has dated Amazigirl in the past.
Obvious Billie* conclusion: AG revealed her identity to him and broke up with him to restart their relationship as Sal.
*I know she is Jennifer now, but this just feels like good old Billie surfacing.
I still don’t think there’s very much difference across the name change, it was just a paint job.
“Like, okay, her signs say FedEx Office, but ah know she still a dang Kinko’s”
lol at this point does jen ‘need’ to interview/write an article about “Amazi-sal”? feels like it’d be easier to hire someone off craigslist to make out with/seduce her while she takes over teh newspaper or so lol XD;
Tho imagine if jen finds out like, 3 months from now who amazigirl is through joyce’s ‘comic’ lol
Ah, she still believes it’s Sal.
I actually half-expect her to have decided it’s Lucy for some reason
Which…still actually works with Jennifer’s statements, if not Dorothy’s.
Would be nice to see change it up a bit but that would also mean admitting she was wrong at first so not hopeful
Hm, AG and Lucy have never been seen together. There’s 32 strips with both AG and amber, but 0 with Lucy.
Proof that a mask will change your body type and size. Amber is a short-short stack, while Sal is a single small, er, not-stacked. Or, Sal is fem Bruce Lee, and Amber is Lean Beef Patty. Now I’m hungry, and I just ate.
Sal is CM Punk, Amber is Samoa Joe (minus the tats on both).
Sal is nowhere near that big of a prick.
Probably.
I think its entirely likely that Jennifer still thinks that Sal is Amazigirl despite the two having entirely different heights, weights, builds, skin tones, hair colors, etc…
…but I dunno, that Willis is being so coy with the proper nouns here makes me wonder if maybe Jennifer’s realized the truth.
It’s just set up so that Dorothy can think she’s talking about Amber while she’s actually talking about Sal. The ambiguity is intentional, but for different reasons.
Sorry to burst some bubbles, but Billie knows already: https://www.dumbingofage.com/2020/comic/book-10/04-is-a-song-forever/whatnow/
She’s been told, but that doesn’t mean she knows. She’s rejecting it in that strip
Dumbing of Age Book 15: you have been served
So does she still think it’s Sal or is she barking up a different wrong tree?
85% chance: Jennifer still thinks that Sal is Amazigirl.
14% chance: Jennifer has realized that Amber is Amazigirl.
1% chance: Jennifer somehow has decided that Lucy is Amazigirl.
…….I only add that last one in because it’d fit with Jennifer’s hint, and it’d be fucking hilarious :D.
It’s kinda open ended. Danny specifically dated Amazi-Girl, so no matter who Jennifer suspects, that statement will always check out.
If anything, use of the past tense means she’s ruled out Sal since they are currently dating.
Jennifer right but wrong universe.
Jennifer is at her most entertaining when she’s barking up the wrong tree, so the idea that she’s suddenly deduced who AG is cannot lead to anything good. Ironically, Amber’s refusal to do Danny stuff might have saved her secret here.
Today, I believe both are barking up the wrong tree.
Smoochy chart ouroboros? Sounds like one egotistical snake.
Get it? Because it is kissing its own butt? Come on somebody work with me here.
Dorothy you are so bad at this
Eh, Jen’s worse
Exact
atleast Dorothy kind of acknowledges her problem now. Jennifer is still set straight on the path of most incompetent journalist nepo employee.
Ding ding ding.
It’s sad that doesn’t clear up anything. This friend group needs to stop fucking within itself so much. Find other mates before this gets incestous!
Too late.
“Hundreds of stories before I showed up/
And they’d tell them to me and pull photos up/
And they’re all connected, like a pair of handcuffs/
But no one seemed affected that every one had fucked/“
Note that Jennifer used “dated”, not “is dating”. So… maybe not Sal actually, since she’s currently dating Danny.
That narrows it down to Amber or Lucy (???).
Or… Dorothy herself????
It would be real funny if it still Sal but she think she must had dumped Danny by now.
I think it’d be fucking hilarious if Jennifer started grilling Lucy :D.
You know, were it Sal, I’m not sure how Dorothy once dating Danny would mean she knows that.
Danny never dated Amber; he dated Amazigirl. So …
Wait. So who did Dotty think Jenn means?
Is Dotty playing into Jenn’s game, and saying AG is Sal, who is dating Danny?
But still fumbled it? I am confused.
Wait, I forgot Danny also banged AG. My mistake, carry on.
Me too! (Completely forgot!) Here I was wondering why Dorothy was acting like AG was SAL.
Are we sure that it’s not Sal?
I mean, Amber says she’s not Amazi-Girl and they have different tags.
It could well be Sal using her super-speed to be in two places at once!
Everyone knows that the bit of time that ‘Amazi-girl’ was fighting with Sal was just a way to hide her true identity! It was a mirror, and swamp gas that made it seem like two people were beating up criminals! Open your eyes, sheeple!
It’s honestly striking how relationships that feel like they last a long time because for us they happen over years last only a few weeks at best in the comic.
Longest standing one is Becky and Dina, right? Can’t think of any others which survived the Halloween timeskip
Danny and Sal started before the time-skip, though it’s been pretty slow burn for a college relationship even in in-universe time.
Nah, Danny and Sal started in post time-skip. Remember that it started getting flirtatious when Danny bought Sal that bike since he noticed she didn’t have her motorcycle this semester. She then gave him a giftcard in exchange for the bike, because she didn’t like being given things, and he used the money to buy her flowers. They shortly became official after that.
He was tutoring her in math first semester, and things developed very slowly in our timeline, but just a few weeks in theirs
The irony is, Jennifer knows Sal and Danny are dating, but probably is unaware about Amber (with or without Amazi-Girl) and Danny, which is extra funny because she is the biggest reason Danny didn’t have sex with Jennifer when it was an option, though he did also express other misgivings.
So here’s the thing, I know Dorothy’s desperate to avoid having a “Mcbeth” era by getting into politics and I understand that…to bad that now makes her the best person to try to handle political affairs.
Those who aren’t fit for seats of leadership and all the power that comes with it chase after it relentlessly and those who are don’t want anything to do with it. Yet again this new development in character for Dorothy has become compelling.
I actually think that very few people are competent at the job of politician/leader, whether they’d like it or not. A good leader needs to be organized, diligent, adept at navigating all manner of social situations, good at delegating and holding people accountable, and needs to be extremely strong-willed and motivated. I don’t know about you, but none of these qualities describe me.
The tricky part is that what people want in a political leader (being principled, decisive, honest and devoted to their beliefs) aren’t necessarily what is actually needed for a politician (being pragmatic, responsible, considerate of the opposition, able to compromise on some aspects to ensure that things get done).
You see this with a lot of very prominent, idealistic politicians: They just don’t know how to get shit done when not everyone is aligned behind them, or refuse to give even a little on their ideals if it’d actually mean getting anything done.
It turns out that politics are actually a really complicated and difficult subject. Every so often the stars align and you can actually get your perfect solutions passed, but the rest of the time, you need a lot of grease to get the wheels of government to turn your way.
I mean, being completely uncompromising and hostile to opposition seems to be working pretty well for the people who want make everything worse.
Yes, but they’re also appealing to an audience who want to destroy the government.
An audience who wants to make things worse for “everyone else”, but forgets that we’re all “everyone else” to “everyone else”.
It’s good at getting you elected and it’s good at blocking other factions from accomplishing anything, but it’s not actually good at getting things done when you’re in power.
It is when you surrounded yourself with yes man and easily bridgeable assholes.
Even then.
Qualities of someone who is good at gaining power, not good at governing.
We as readers need to start a petition that motivates Willis to introduce new love interests into the cast. Any suggestions on established characters that could do with some love and spotlight? Sarah needs someone to smooch on. If Walky and Dorothy split again the only girls he has left are his sisters! No one wants Walky x Sarah! We need ideas!
Wally x Sarah *would* be hilariously dysfunctional.
Instead of using my Patreon subscription and just reading my next comic, I got out my copy of “Renounce Magical Thinking and Embrace Empirical Evidence” (tenth book, with the kidnapping arc) to check if Billie was around when Amber revealed that she is Amazi-Girl publicly/to her father. She was not. I only skimmed but she pretty absent from pretty absent from the kidnapping chapter – tho she is involved in the aftermath
I know she’s Jennifer now but she was Billie at the time. And I’m PRETTY sure she’s gonna go back to using the nickname at some point
For the record, Blaine, Sal, Faz, Joyce and a bunch of randos were the only ones around when Amber unveiled her dual identity. You don’t *see* Faz on panel but he was in the kidnapping van at the time
re: Faz,
where’s that little bugger anyway?
I unironically hope he’s okay. That family’s in a pretty shaky spot, post Blaine. Maybe his mom has a support network to fall back on or hopefully she had a life insurance policy on Blaine.
Remember Blaine didn’t directly die from his injuries, he got whacked. It’s highly probable that Yuri has connections to the mafia, possibly Asher’s grandfather’s association.
Re: nickname
It’s possible she’ll go by both names, just with different groups of people. Unless the technical limitations of the website and character tags is what’s keeping that from happening.
It’s true she wasn’t there when Amber unmasked, but Walky flat-out told her Amazi-Girl was Amber a few strips later and she refused to believe it.
The fact it works for who both of them are talking about is so funny.
Smack talk is something you either learn or are naturally talented in
Gotta train them skills up before attempting
They are both talking about Danny.
Dorothy shut up. You are about to admit Walky did.
say it with me now: “My Peer Group’s Smoochy Chart is Basically Now an Ouroboros”
What is Dorothy anymore now, if not wanting to be a politician
Her goal in the end is to help people, but before she can get there she gotta renounce magical thinking, the Romanticism that surrounds presidents and politics as was taught to her as a 10 year old.
Who don’t dream of being a King? But in reality being a king is a CURSE, no less true for kings who need to be replaced every 4 years.
What about being president seems so neat to her? An oval office that isnt oval at all? Her face on currency?
So many better ways to help people than these high and mighty office positions apotheosized by white culture who even after 200 years seemed not to have done away with their aristocratic indoctrination, but merely repurposed it.
Being president of the US comes with some very real political power. If effecting the changes you want requires political power, then it’s a valid goal to aim for.
Presidential power ain’t the only form of political power, it also happens on the streets, in the community and by mutually supporting each other.
Elections aren’t the only time politics happen. It also happens when we organize, educate, build local community, and build strength in masses.
In Political Science, power just means the ability to influence or direct the actions, beliefs, or conduct of actors. Real Political Power™ ain’t the only power that can make a tremendous difference in people’s lives, and it’s a good thing too.
Why do you think there has never been a woman president? Is it mere coincidence that the vast majority of presidents have been white Christian men? The election of a single person to represent 300+ million people is a game which is invariably going to favor the Everyman. For people in the United States to continue romanticizing this system in which being the Everyman confer power upon you is inevitably still systemic bigotry by very definition, and is still part of the problem.
Presidential power can do things like mobilize armies (of soldiers or scientists), get a check sent to 200 million people, veto legislation, and more. No, it’s not the only kind of power that can make a difference in peoples’ lives, but there is a vast gulf between what the president can do and what can be done on the streets. Until the state itself is dismantled there are some things that only the state can do, and the president is head of state.
>Why do you think there has never been a woman president?
Because the american people are sexist.
How long has Willis been waiting to use this joke?
The post-it of the joke was so old that Willis should have remembered when it felt off the wall.
AG is Ethan?
“You dated someone they dated” implies AG dated them before Dorothy.
Ethan -confides-in-> XXX
XXX -confides-in-> Dorothy
XXX = Joyce.
I said it on the Patreon but Jennifer’s collapsing mental health would be deeply concerning for me if her undue confidence and refusal to learn a lesson wasn’t incredibly entertaining.
I feel like you’ve summarized the entire webcomic, tbh.
This has nothing to do with today’s strip but I can’t get over this 1950s canned salad where all the components are stored in discreet layers separated by parchment paper and I keep thinking about whether one of Joyce’s grandparents were deeply into this monstrosity.
Joyce’s great-grandparents maybe. I know Joyce is the youngest but I don’t think her parents were that old when they had her.
But seriously, I didn’t even know that canned celery had ever existed. Wow.
Someone posted another ad for the same product further down in comments and somehow it’s even worse, describing lima beans as “dainty” and “delicate” and I am like hon, I hate most beans, but lima are _the absolute worst_ and calling them either “dainty” or “delicate” makes you the biggest goddamn liar about vegetables in the entire world. Yes, I am including people who say they like kale. Christ, lima beans are nasty.
Danny has really been going around…
He’s been handed off from girl to girl like he was a toy.
as long as they sterilized him first, I suppose
“It’s a devastating insult. You are devastated.”
“Quick question: can anyone access our search history, or is this an incognito browsing situation like when you’re stalking a hot mailman from your work computer?”
“It is 100% confidential. No one can access what you ask me, including Michael. Now, what kind of pornography would you like to see?”
“Joke’s on you, I’ve given up on my dream!”
“That’s not the clapback you think it is.”
“In fact, I’m torpedo-ing my grades too! So suck on that!”
“This only sounds worse for you”
“I’m horrified by the idea I won’t be able to protect my best friend who I may be falling in love with!”
“You didn’t even try to make that one a comeback.”
“I’m increasingly obsessed with the concept of owning a bright blue Stratocaster, so maybe now you feel thoroughly pwned?”
“Dorothy, it’s not 2008.”
This would have been hilarious if Dorothy had answered “Walky?” instead.
Any chance Asher got involved? He seemed to have maybe put some dots in a row about Amber/AG a while back. Jennifer might not be barking up the wrong tree this time.
But more importantly… how long will this sudden diversion distract us from the fallout of the cleavage pic exchange?
Possible, but I don’t think Asher and Jennifer have talked about anything substantial in a while now. … or possibly ever.
That’s not the retort you think it is, Dorothy. Jennifer is the queen of Big “Peaked in High School” Energy.
“Peaked in High School” energy is her brand (for now).
“sure in like high school”
dotty that was like >6 months ago
Dunno if Dorothy and Jennifer were ever friends, but I don’t think Dorothy now considers herself friends with an insufferable, vain person who thinks she’s the best in the world.
Don’t listen to her, Dorothy! That’s some great smack talk!
*takes notes
“How do you two make each other dumber?”
Maybe it’s a field Jennifer has. It’d be great, for a journalist, except she’s not immune.
Hah, Danny dated both of them.