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May 12, 2026

Choosing

by David M Willis on May 15, 2018 at 12:01 am
  • 03 - Faz Is Great
└ Tags: amber, walky

Discussion (174) ¬

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  1. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    May 15, 2018 at 12:02 am | #

    shun the troof on Garbage Roof

    • Pablo360
      Pablo360
      May 15, 2018 at 12:04 am | #

      It’s not denial if you admit you’re doing it

      • Knuf Wons
        Knuf Wons
        May 15, 2018 at 8:16 am | #

        But it’s still pretty trashy.

        • Annonymouse
          Annonymouse
          May 16, 2018 at 10:02 am | #

          Reduce Reuse Recycle – We aren’t going to be able to reduce this amount of trash. Reuse? Sure, have been doing this for a while but it is getting kinda tired and really worn out. So how do we recycle this?

  2. AnvilPro
    AnvilPro
    May 15, 2018 at 12:02 am | #

    They’re too perfect for each other

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      May 15, 2018 at 12:04 am | #

      Hey! We don’t want to hear that kind of language on Garbage Roof.

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      May 15, 2018 at 12:07 am | #

      Can we call the ship the “Garbage Barge”?

      • Bagge
        Bagge
        May 15, 2018 at 12:20 am | #

        …Yes. Yes we can.

      • Reltzik
        Reltzik
        May 15, 2018 at 12:22 am | #

        I’m already calling it the S.S. Garbage Scowl, but you do you.

        • King Daniel
          King Daniel
          May 15, 2018 at 12:39 am | #

          Why not…the GarBarge?

          • Woobie
            Woobie
            May 15, 2018 at 1:01 am | #

            That garbage theme song is running in my head now, dammit.

          • HeySo
            HeySo
            May 15, 2018 at 8:29 pm | #

            The Gar- wait for it, it’s going to be Amazi– Barge.

      • LookingIn
        LookingIn
        May 15, 2018 at 1:10 am | #

        I don’t know about you, but that idea sure does stink!

        Actually, it’s a good nickname.

      • Liquid Len
        Liquid Len
        May 15, 2018 at 8:09 am | #

        This garbage barge?
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_AzU_k9ysI
        🙂

        • Ryek Hvek
          Ryek Hvek
          May 15, 2018 at 9:34 am | #

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9WulVrsS0A

  3. Saaaam
    Saaaam
    May 15, 2018 at 12:03 am | #

    All the more reason to continue to shatter his jaw! Violence solves problems!

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      May 15, 2018 at 12:09 am | #

      Didn’t Vaarsuvius of Order of the Stick say something along the lines of “As the radius of the fireball increases, the number of problems it can solve approaches zero”?

      • Doctor_Who
        Doctor_Who
        May 15, 2018 at 12:10 am | #

        *CAN’T solve, dangit.

        • Deanatay
          Deanatay
          May 15, 2018 at 8:38 am | #

          Yeah, they’ve changed their attitude on violence lately, though.

          • Liliet
            Liliet
            May 16, 2018 at 6:30 am | #

            I like to think V would make an exception for personally Blaine

      • Delicious Taffy
        Delicious Taffy
        May 15, 2018 at 12:17 am | #

        V is just smart that way.

    • Shen Hibiki
      Shen Hibiki
      May 15, 2018 at 12:36 am | #

      Violence. If it’s not solving your problem, is ’cause you’re not using enough if it.

      • darkgloomie
        darkgloomie
        May 15, 2018 at 4:19 am | #

        What if your problem is angrily reacting to problems with violence?

        • Nebby
          Nebby
          May 15, 2018 at 5:51 am | #

          Well then, with enough violence you could conceivably remove all future problems from your life.

          • Knuf Wons
            Knuf Wons
            May 15, 2018 at 8:17 am | #

            Especially with nuclear kamikaze strikes!
            …wait…

            • SgtWadeyWilson
              SgtWadeyWilson
              May 15, 2018 at 8:23 am | #

              Having second thoughts? That doesn’t sound like a Dalek…

        • Deanatay
          Deanatay
          May 15, 2018 at 8:42 am | #

          darkgloomie: the number of problems an expanding fireball radius can solve APPROACHES zero, but never quite reaches it. Asymptotes are funny that way. Violence itself will always survive unsolved.

          • Skeptible
            Skeptible
            May 15, 2018 at 10:38 am | #

            As that other joke goes; it’s close enough for practical purposes.

            • thejeff
              thejeff
              May 15, 2018 at 12:41 pm | #

              Horseshoes, hand grenades and H-bombs?

  4. Pablo360
    Pablo360
    May 15, 2018 at 12:03 am | #

    Taking a break from all your worries sure would help a lot.

    • Dean
      Dean
      May 15, 2018 at 12:29 am | #

      Wouldn’t you like to get away?

      • cbwroses
        cbwroses
        May 15, 2018 at 12:46 am | #

        Some times you wanna go…

        • foamy
          foamy
          May 15, 2018 at 12:47 am | #

          Where err’ybawdy knows your name.

          • Fezzam
            Fezzam
            May 15, 2018 at 1:33 am | #

            This is the 4th time TODAY a comment chain has broken into cheers theme…
            Was there a marathon/anniversary I wasn’t aware of or something?

            • Needfuldoer
              Needfuldoer
              May 15, 2018 at 1:45 am | #

              Check today’s strip’s alt-text.

              Though it’s never a bad time for Cheers or Frasier. Wings had its good episodes, too.

              • Derek
                Derek
                May 16, 2018 at 10:46 pm | #

                Yeah, like the Phantom of the Oprah one! Classic!

          • PB
            PB
            May 15, 2018 at 1:36 am | #

            And they’re always glad you came

            • Charlie Spencer
              Charlie Spencer
              May 15, 2018 at 7:07 am | #

              You wanna be where you can see people are the same

              • Deanatay
                Deanatay
                May 15, 2018 at 8:43 am | #

                You wanna be where
                EVERYBODY KNOWS YOUR NAME!

  5. Bagge
    Bagge
    May 15, 2018 at 12:03 am | #

    KEG STAND PARTY!

  6. Dafydd
    Dafydd
    May 15, 2018 at 12:04 am | #

    ♪Takin’ a break from all your worries sure would help a lot…♫

    I mean, um… *clears throat*

    You can’t save everyone, Amber. Let yourself save yourself first; you’ll be in a better position to help Faz then.

    • Pablo360
      Pablo360
      May 15, 2018 at 12:05 am | #

      All those nights when you’ve got no lights,
      The check is in the mail;
      And your little angel
      Hung the cat up by it’s tail;
      And your third fiance didn’t show;

      • Knuf Wons
        Knuf Wons
        May 15, 2018 at 8:19 am | #

        3 fiancé’s. That’s either a poor way to count relationships or you’re on The Bachelor.

    • Friscovi
      Friscovi
      May 15, 2018 at 7:40 am | #

      It says right there on the airplane emergency card “Before you assist others, always put your oxygen mask on first”

      • geno
        geno
        May 15, 2018 at 3:14 pm | #

        ^ That same line was in the new Worm 2 page today.

  7. Stephen Bierce
    Stephen Bierce
    May 15, 2018 at 12:04 am | #

    *plays The Rolling Stones’ “Emotional Rescue” on the hacked P.A. speakers*

    • Brotato
      Brotato
      May 15, 2018 at 1:59 am | #

      Listen, can I just say, I really appreciate your consistent & dedicated comments? Because I do. They confused me at first, but you were one of the few really regular commenters, and it just… I’m glad you continue to be here, basically.

      • Stephen Bierce
        Stephen Bierce
        May 16, 2018 at 2:44 pm | #

        Glad to be of service.

  8. Mordecai
    Mordecai
    May 15, 2018 at 12:04 am | #

    Aww, amber’s halfhearted reply…

    I wonder how this will end up

    • Pablo360
      Pablo360
      May 15, 2018 at 12:06 am | #

      Walky will throw a toy at Blaine’s head, knocking him into a ravine, where he will be washed out to Lake Michigan

      • Yumi
        Yumi
        May 15, 2018 at 12:08 am | #

        Can it be a smaller lake? I’d hate to have to drain all of Lake Michigan before I can swim in it again.

        • Delicious Taffy
          Delicious Taffy
          May 15, 2018 at 12:21 am | #

          How about Carlyle Lake, in Illinois? Story goes, it was made over a cemetery, without moving any graves beforehand.

          • King Daniel
            King Daniel
            May 15, 2018 at 2:00 am | #

            At least if Wikipedia’s to be trusted, the graves were exhumed and moved beforehand.

            • Delicious Taffy
              Delicious Taffy
              May 15, 2018 at 2:54 am | #

              Knowing Carlyle*, I suspect they moved some graves (probably from the big-name families), and the rest were left to get flooded. It would explain the stories, if you’re the superstitious type.

              *Got family there, and it’s ~20 minutes away by car.

        • Emperor Norton II
          Emperor Norton II
          May 15, 2018 at 12:44 am | #

          Just remember, every single drop of water we drink or use or eat (through the food it’s in) was once dinosaur pee.

          Every. Single. Drop.

          • StClair
            StClair
            May 15, 2018 at 4:02 am | #

            We are all made of stars.

            • Knuf Wons
              Knuf Wons
              May 15, 2018 at 8:20 am | #

              God I LOVE Carl Sagan. Best science show of all time.

            • Pablo360
              Pablo360
              May 15, 2018 at 9:58 am | #

              By which you mean celebrities from the past.

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        May 15, 2018 at 7:56 am | #

        Wait. I don’t understand.

        Why is Walky courting Blaine?

  9. Passchendaele
    Passchendaele
    May 15, 2018 at 12:06 am | #

    The anthem of Garbage Roof: “Woooooo Garbage Roof!”

    • Marsh Maryrose
      Marsh Maryrose
      May 15, 2018 at 12:35 am | #

      It’s Garbage Roof, Garbage Roof
      Gotta go chill on Garbage Roof
      Everybody’s missing out on this sweet place, sweet place
      Garbage Roof, Garbage Roof
      Gettin’ high on Garbage Roof
      Everybody’s looking to escape some dumb shit

  10. Kernanator
    Kernanator
    May 15, 2018 at 12:09 am | #

    Garbage Roof seems to be losing its appeal.

  11. Jess
    Jess
    May 15, 2018 at 12:17 am | #

    The alt text hits hard tonight. So it goes.

  12. DailyBrad
    DailyBrad
    May 15, 2018 at 12:20 am | #

    This is some real stuff Amber’s saying, and I’m proud of her for that. Like, I don’t agree that she is being selfish, but I think she’s apt in recognizing that it’s academic if Faz is blood to her or not.

    (It does seem he wouldn’t be, going by Willis’ saying that was Shortpacked-specific and that she is an only child, but that is an ask that goes back a bit, so I dunno if he was just not wanting to spoil things. Though if it was, he wouldn’t have answered it, probably.)

    • Yumi
      Yumi
      May 15, 2018 at 12:23 am | #

      It seems that Willis had forgotten he had ever posted that answer and has de-Word of God-ed it. He apparently said on Patreon that he changed his mind, so I now think it’s supposed to be uncertain whether they are blood related or not, or if Amber has other bio siblings.

      • DailyBrad
        DailyBrad
        May 15, 2018 at 3:37 am | #

        ah, duly noted, then.

      • UniqueSnowflake2
        UniqueSnowflake2
        May 15, 2018 at 8:48 am | #

        In any case, Amber wouldn’t know about Willis’s decisions. As far as the characters are concerned, there is no canon except what they actually observe.

        • Jhon
          Jhon
          May 15, 2018 at 9:38 pm | #

          So anyone from a meta reality trying to judge -us- can take a long hike off a short pier.

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          May 15, 2018 at 9:59 pm | #

          OTOH, Amber likely knows more than we do about the situation and so would be in a better position to judge – were it not for the meta reasons we have to suspect.

    • Viktoria
      Viktoria
      May 15, 2018 at 12:40 am | #

      Yeah, airplane crash rules apply here. Help yourself, then help the child. Amber is hanging onto sanity by the fingertips of her blue gloves, she can’t be responsible for keeping Faz safe, too.

  13. space
    space
    May 15, 2018 at 12:20 am | #

    I believe Danny dating Amber would HORRIBLE in retrospect. Similar to Billie and Ruth’s…minus the suicide pact.

    • space
      space
      May 15, 2018 at 12:21 am | #

      *Walky

      • Ainara
        Ainara
        May 15, 2018 at 1:51 am | #

        Why would Danny date Walky?

        :p

        • SgtWadeyWilson
          SgtWadeyWilson
          May 15, 2018 at 2:03 am | #

          Better question: Why would Walky date Danny?

          • Delicious Taffy
            Delicious Taffy
            May 15, 2018 at 2:58 am | #

            Danny’s decent looks, inoffensive presence, respectable penis, ukulele skills, stylish clothes, and cornbread charm, maybe?

            • DailyBrad
              DailyBrad
              May 15, 2018 at 3:25 am | #

              Yeah, like, I think fans have this perception sometimes of Danny as this loser, when that’s really not how he’s really been presented. He’s sometimes awkward, but not this social pariah people got it into their heads he was through exaggeration.

              • Delicious Taffy
                Delicious Taffy
                May 15, 2018 at 3:33 am | #

                You’re on the mark, there. I also notice a glaring deficit of respect for his entirely-adequate penis. How very astute of you to notice.

            • SgtWadeyWilson
              SgtWadeyWilson
              May 15, 2018 at 8:21 am | #

              Ehh… I don’t mind Danny as a person. He’s a little boring, sure, but not entirely unfun.

              I just don’t see him as Walky’s type.

              Also, I don’t really see why we’re judging people by their genitals, especially in reference to a person I’m fairly certain doesn’t have a working knowledge of the other’s. It just seems a little far-fetched to assume Walky’s going to see Danny’s dick and go: “Oh, hey, with that knowledge, he officially has enough qualities that make him datable!”

            • timemonkey
              timemonkey
              May 15, 2018 at 9:31 am | #

              Personally I’d date the crap out of Danny. Danny is good boyfriend material. Wouldn’t touch Walky with a stick.

            • Ainara
              Ainara
              May 15, 2018 at 10:28 am | #

              I don’t want to see the words “Danny” and “respectable penis” in the same sentence ever again

              • Schpoonman
                Schpoonman
                May 15, 2018 at 1:18 pm | #

                Don’t you talk shit about Danny’s penis. It is entirely respectable.

                • Fart Captor
                  Fart Captor
                  May 15, 2018 at 2:22 pm | #

                  The tiny ukulele is a bit much, though

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      May 15, 2018 at 8:12 am | #

      Why so bad? I guess if their entire relationship was garbage roof based, but I doubt it would be.

  14. Reltzik
    Reltzik
    May 15, 2018 at 12:21 am | #

    You’re randomly wooting and cheering for stupid things on the grounds of location-based team affiliation, AND you’re eating pizza, AND you’re in college.

    How the hell is beer not a part of this?

    • cbwroses
      cbwroses
      May 15, 2018 at 12:49 am | #

      Because Jason kicked Walky out of the bar.
      Which reminds me, I wonder if he’s still there mixing drinks.

    • timemonkey
      timemonkey
      May 15, 2018 at 12:49 am | #

      Because beer is gross and sucks?

      • cbwroses
        cbwroses
        May 15, 2018 at 12:59 am | #

        That too.

      • JessWitt
        JessWitt
        May 15, 2018 at 1:08 am | #

        I’ll drink to that! (Margarita, please.)

    • DailyBrad
      DailyBrad
      May 15, 2018 at 3:26 am | #

      Amber’s not a drinker. Recall Joyce’s party, where she got angry at Danny for drinking on the grounds it was illegal.

  15. space
    space
    May 15, 2018 at 12:22 am | #

    All for the ship name to be “Wamby” say AYE!

    • Delicious Taffy
      Delicious Taffy
      May 15, 2018 at 12:28 am | #

      He’s gonna put his Wamby in her O’Malkerton.

    • cbwroses
      cbwroses
      May 15, 2018 at 1:01 am | #

      I like Reltzik’s suggestion of SS Garbage Skowl

      • Reltzik
        Reltzik
        May 15, 2018 at 9:32 am | #

        That typo’s a “thing” now, isn’t it.

        ….

        *sigh* Okay, Skowl it is.

  16. miados
    miados
    May 15, 2018 at 12:24 am | #

    I need a garbage roof

  17. newllend(henryvolt)
    newllend(henryvolt)
    May 15, 2018 at 12:26 am | #

    Sounds like a completely similar yet opposite situation to Ruth’s problem with her Brother.

  18. nlips
    nlips
    May 15, 2018 at 12:27 am | #

    This is surprisingly healthy for both of them. Those bad, selfish, depressing feelings and thoughts need to be said out loud. You can’t change problems you won’t admit to being a part of.

    • newllend(henryvolt)
      newllend(henryvolt)
      May 15, 2018 at 12:45 am | #

      It’s also kind of cool that Walky has pretty much found a good friend to just chill and relate with. I mean he has other friends but I’ve yet to see him get this comfortable around anyone else besides his own girlfriend and recently acquired mentor.

      I mean there’s Bellie who I thought her and Walky have always had a good friendship going no matter in what setting ( to her own dismay) but it seems the two of them haven’t had a lot of time to bond since they started college since Billie’s been dealing with Ruth the hole time. Then there’s Joyce and despite them being cool she still can barely stand him and Joe seems to prefer a certain kind of company. So right now this is the best friendship either one of these two have going right now.

      • cbwroses
        cbwroses
        May 15, 2018 at 12:55 am | #

        True.
        As an aside, your comment reminds me that they both have “siblings” they could hopefully be as comfortable with as they seem to be with each other, but the inability to get comfortable with said siblings is just one of the varied reasons they feel they need garbage roof.

        • Kim
          Kim
          May 15, 2018 at 1:09 am | #

          Oooo! Good point!

        • Jhon
          Jhon
          May 15, 2018 at 9:44 pm | #

          Garbage roof. It’s liberating. Nobody judges you. Because everybody there is garbage.

  19. Johan
    Johan
    May 15, 2018 at 12:31 am | #

    Off topic but does Carla do flat track or banked derby?

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      May 15, 2018 at 12:36 am | #

      Neither. Carla’s not in roller derby. Not sure about Malaya or Marcie though.

      • Friscovi
        Friscovi
        May 15, 2018 at 7:43 am | #

        But I agree with Sal, Carla should totally do roller derby.

      • Johan
        Johan
        May 16, 2018 at 12:06 am | #

        Which one do they do?

  20. Cass
    Cass
    May 15, 2018 at 12:31 am | #

    Lol, Amber angsting makes me feel the tiniest bit guilty about the fact that I usually forget my own half-brother even exists, but I doubt he considers me family any more than I do him regardless of blood.

    • Yumi
      Yumi
      May 15, 2018 at 12:35 am | #

      I feel that. Basically the only time I talk to my half-brother is when I happen to be in the room when he calls our dad and our dad puts him on speakerphone.

  21. BBCC
    BBCC
    May 15, 2018 at 12:35 am | #

    Oh, Walky. Oh, Amber. Oh, garbage roof.

  22. HMH
    HMH
    May 15, 2018 at 12:37 am | #

    garbage roof is grand

  23. Wright
    Wright
    May 15, 2018 at 12:37 am | #

    Considering that Walky never even wrote to his sister in the years that their parents stuck her in boarding school, he’s not too far away. It’s convenient to leave others in their misery if they’re far away and it’s hard for you to do anything.e

    • cbwroses
      cbwroses
      May 15, 2018 at 12:58 am | #

      It’s been a long time, but was that something that was established?
      And was it that he didn’t write her or that they didn’t write each other? Because mutual dickishness towards each other is slightly better than one sided dickishness.

      • Wright
        Wright
        May 15, 2018 at 1:40 am | #

        It’s like literally the first exchange that the two have, though I suppose Walky does say that they haven’t talked *much* in five years. But it’s kind of clear from the first time that Walky goes up on Garbage Roof by himself to eat cookies that he never thought about Sal’s pain much. When he talks in panel four, he speaks from experience.

        He was raised the Golden Child, and has his own problems to deal with. As a fellow golden child, I can relate. One of those problems is a rose-colored view of the past and a difficult time internalizing the suffering of others when you were treated well. Another is a tendency to freeze up when confronted with failure, which is probably where math problems come from.

        • BBCC
          BBCC
          May 15, 2018 at 2:10 am | #

          Walky also said on those DoA twitters Willis made that he hasn’t seen her since then, so any correspondence was likely short and limited – possibly as simple as ‘Hey sis, hope you’re doing okay’ every so often.

          • thejeff
            thejeff
            May 15, 2018 at 8:17 am | #

            Which is so weird to me. Boarding school sure, but year round boarding school? No summers? No holidays?

            If their parents blotted her out that much, was writing to her even allowed?

    • cbwroses
      cbwroses
      May 15, 2018 at 2:55 am | #

      “Haven’t talked much” and “never even wrote to his sister” are two very different things.
      Especially when the latter implies she wrote to him and was ignored.
      Hence why I asked about it.
      I was not questioning him being the favorite. But that’s a dynamic involving the parents. Them not writing each other is a dynamic involving just them.

    • DailyBrad
      DailyBrad
      May 15, 2018 at 3:31 am | #

      In Walky’s defense, he made a point of saying that he was going to try to be a better brother, both to Sal and to Billie. (Though, I wonder some about the nature of their relationship. I know Walky considers her a sis, but she also drunkenly hit on Sal, so I don’t know if she either doesn’t consider the dynamic that, or if it is exclusively with Walky and Sal is not a sister to her.)

  24. Keulen
    Keulen
    May 15, 2018 at 12:44 am | #

    I have a feeling the alt text is a song reference, but I don’t have a clue what it is.

    • newllend(henryvolt)
      newllend(henryvolt)
      May 15, 2018 at 12:55 am | #

      It’s the theme song to “cheers” the old sitcom.

    • Marsh Maryrose
      Marsh Maryrose
      May 15, 2018 at 1:01 am | #

      I had to google it myself. Seeing as that particular sitcom ended in 1993, you might be too young to have heard the whole theme. Or like me, you might be older but have been TV-challenged during those years.

      • Miri
        Miri
        May 15, 2018 at 1:49 am | #

        Repeats showed a good decade longer or so over here…

      • Keulen
        Keulen
        May 15, 2018 at 5:31 pm | #

        Ah, that explains why I wasn’t familiar with it. I was four years old in 1993.

  25. Keulen
    Keulen
    May 15, 2018 at 12:45 am | #

    Walky and Amber get along so well, and yet for once I just can’t ship them. They seem to be much better as garbage roof buddies than anything else.

    • cbwroses
      cbwroses
      May 15, 2018 at 12:59 am | #

      He threw a toy at her head. You must ship them. That’s the rule.

      • Pat
        Pat
        May 15, 2018 at 1:19 am | #

        No he didn’t.

        • King Daniel
          King Daniel
          May 15, 2018 at 2:48 am | #

          Yes he did. He literally threw a toy at Amber’s head. It was the last scene they were in together before this one now, even:

          http://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-8/02-this-is-the-way-that-we-love/simpler/

          • Pat
            Pat
            May 16, 2018 at 2:50 am | #

            Well huh. I do not remember that.

    • DailyBrad
      DailyBrad
      May 15, 2018 at 3:33 am | #

      I could maybe see Walky and Amber as a thing, but I don’t know. It hasn’t clicked for me, exactly.

      Has it been established, by the way, if Amber is aware of Walky and Sal being siblings? I would imagine maybe, given she no longer has this hate boner for her, and she’s also had time to do her homework on Sal, anyway.

  26. vlademir1
    vlademir1
    May 15, 2018 at 1:06 am | #

    @AltText and various comments above: here

    I have an MP3 of the original version on my phone I play semi-regularly at work for… reasons.

  27. Side One
    Side One
    May 15, 2018 at 1:10 am | #

    It’s a truly sad day in a young person’s life when they realize that they are completely human and that whole “People are basically good” philosophy goes against reality.
    GARBAGE ROOF!!

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      May 15, 2018 at 2:29 am | #

      Eh, I’m 22 and I still think most people are mostly good. I’m not sure if that’s optimism or naivety, but it is possible to keep it.

      • DailyBrad
        DailyBrad
        May 15, 2018 at 3:37 am | #

        I don’t think it’s something that is inherently naive. Obviously, some of this is relative, but if humans generally sucked, then there’d be nothing worth giving a shit about when bad things befell them. It’d just mean less trash out there.

        • SgtWadeyWilson
          SgtWadeyWilson
          May 15, 2018 at 8:35 am | #

          Having been there and back again, I kinda miss hating everybody. It was an oddly easier and less stressful existence believing that anybody that appeared good was working against their inherent nature.

          Now I tend to think that the: “nobody starts out good or evil, just innocent and neutral, then life happens” version sounds the most right.

      • Sam
        Sam
        May 15, 2018 at 8:01 am | #

        Literally same. Some people are literal dumpster fires, but most people are good people just trying to get through life.

  28. vlademir1
    vlademir1
    May 15, 2018 at 1:29 am | #

    Now appropos to nothing in the comic and only because I know many here will have watched “Can’t Go Back” and “A Single Pale Rose” by now…
    Holy damn…
    Just damn…
    I called both those reveals quite a while ago (like when the topic was first broached eons back), but holy hell…
    Also, that damned magnificent song…
    I don’t want to invite public spoilers here, for obvious reasons, but I had to get that out of my system somewhere other people who would understand frequent.

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      May 15, 2018 at 2:33 am | #

      I completely understand and also that song was amazing.

    • Delicious Taffy
      Delicious Taffy
      May 15, 2018 at 3:03 am | #

      I’m just glad they finally dropped the bombshell, because now we know that 1) Pink Diamond is a total babe and 2) the creators aren’t afraid to show some teeth.

    • Sam
      Sam
      May 15, 2018 at 8:05 am | #

      I understand too. It was amazing.

      • NickG
        NickG
        May 15, 2018 at 4:59 pm | #

        Spoilers! We’re only halfway through season 4 of SU in the UK, and I’ve been trying hard to avoid too much info on this.

        • Delicious Taffy
          Delicious Taffy
          May 15, 2018 at 5:38 pm | #

          Garnet is a fusion of a Ruby and a Sapphire. Also, Steven fuses with Connie at one point.

          • Inahc
            Inahc
            May 15, 2018 at 6:13 pm | #

            Dude, not cool, there are other people reading that probably aren’t that far yet. Granted it’s hard to find out the show exists without those spoilers, but that’s no reason to make it even harder.

            • Delicious Taffy
              Delicious Taffy
              May 15, 2018 at 8:12 pm | #

              Sorry. I don’t understand why people are so intent on making every single minute detail of the show a state secret, though. I’ve gotten shit for saying Steven’s weapon is a shield, before. This is all Season 1 stuff.

              • King Daniel
                King Daniel
                May 15, 2018 at 9:40 pm | #

                The first thing, at least, was only revealed in the Season 1 finale, though – things that happen in a finale are generally considered spoilery a lot longer than something that takes place earlier in a season.

                No idea what that one person on your case for talking about Steven’s shield was on about, though; I mean, the shield is unveiled in the first episode of the entire series, so unless someone is watching out-of-order…

    • Inahc
      Inahc
      May 15, 2018 at 6:17 pm | #

      🙂 for me it was a weird mix of “holy shit I called that” and “no way, I was sure that theory was nonsense”. But mostly I was preoccupied with the non-plot bombshells.
      I’m hoping it’s up on Mark Watches soon so I can talk about all the spoilery spoilers there 🙂

  29. Rabid Rabbit
    Rabid Rabbit
    May 15, 2018 at 2:21 am | #

    Interesting art. In the first three panels, I feel like Amber’s drawn much older than usual, in the sense that you can see how she’ll look in middle age. She is really is growing up! Well, while remaining short.

    • King Daniel
      King Daniel
      May 15, 2018 at 2:51 am | #

      I mean, we already kind of got to see an older Amber in Shortpacked! (from early-twenties to late-twenties-early thirties over the comic’s run, if I recall correctly), but yeah, I can definitely see what you mean. Especially since Shortpacked! Amber had longer hair.

  30. Chris Phoenix
    Chris Phoenix
    May 15, 2018 at 3:06 am | #

    Yeah, Amber, and here’s the real sucker punch:

    There are parts of the world where the infant mortality rate is 10%. And you, and I, and 99.9% of the people reading this comic, are doing basically nothing about it.

    • Delicious Taffy
      Delicious Taffy
      May 15, 2018 at 3:31 am | #

      I can barely keep myself functional, most days, between crippling depression, debilitating autism, ADD, and other various issues. Infant mortality rates, let alone those of far-off countries, aren’t exactly a priority.

      • Jago
        Jago
        May 15, 2018 at 6:56 am | #

        I think that was the point Chris was trying to make. Most people have their own problems which are and should be their priority.
        Especially people with psychological issues like Amber. She needs to think about herself more and needs to learn that it’s okay.

    • Eldritch Gentleman
      Eldritch Gentleman
      May 15, 2018 at 12:24 pm | #

      Well the problem is that Faz isn’t some far away kid from a country you’ve never heard of. He is her step maybe half-brother and he is living through the same hell she had to live through. Amazi-Girl was probably partially an attempt at making herself feel less powerless, becoming someone who can Do something. But here she she knows what might be happening to Faz and feels powerless to stop it even though she Knows that Hell from personal experience.

  31. DrWattson
    DrWattson
    May 15, 2018 at 3:17 am | #

    RE: The alt-text:

    “Sometimes you want to go where everybody knows you’re trash.”

    • PB
      PB
      May 15, 2018 at 10:52 am | #

      Thank you for this. XD

  32. BenRG
    BenRG
    May 15, 2018 at 5:54 am | #

    There is an increasing likelihood of Walky and Amber doing something stupid.

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      May 15, 2018 at 6:20 am | #

      Isn’t one of the big ideas with garbage roof NOT to do things?

      • BenRG
        BenRG
        May 15, 2018 at 6:59 am | #

        No, only not to do smart things. Stupid things are okay; indeed, they’re practically a membership due!

        • Clif
          Clif
          May 15, 2018 at 11:21 am | #

          Stupid things are okay. You mean like garbage roof affair?

  33. Tacos
    Tacos
    May 15, 2018 at 5:55 am | #

    WOOO! GARBAGE ROOF!

    • Dana
      Dana
      May 15, 2018 at 8:55 am | #

      GARBAGE ROOOOF!

  34. Jago
    Jago
    May 15, 2018 at 6:54 am | #

    Yeah but his Mom’s responsible for him, not you, Amber.

    • BenRG
      BenRG
      May 15, 2018 at 7:00 am | #

      It isn’t possible to convince Amber that every bad thing that happens to people in her sphere of contacts isn’t her fault.

  35. Vulcanodon
    Vulcanodon
    May 15, 2018 at 7:55 am | #

    Not clear what, exactly, she could do about it. Blaine probably could bluff his way through a child protective agency interview, then take it out on Faz. But something bad is surely happening.

    • BenRG
      BenRG
      May 15, 2018 at 8:20 am | #

      Maybe the time has come for Amazi-Girl to make sure that, this time, Mr O’Malley doesn’t come back. Amber is in dark enough a place right now where the right (or wrong) stimulus could convince her that she’s a monster enough that she’d accept life in a secure facility in exchange for doing one last good thing before everyone sees her for the monster she truly believes herself to be. Destroying the myth of Amazi-Girl would be a bonus in her eyes right now.

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        May 15, 2018 at 10:19 am | #

        Or Amazi-Girl could really take on the role of a street level super hero and dig up evidence of Blaine’s mob crimes and leave him tied up on the steps of the police station with the evidence pinned to him. 🙂

        • Eldritch Gentleman
          Eldritch Gentleman
          May 15, 2018 at 12:16 pm | #

          To be fair though, would that evidence fly in court? I mean, wouldn’t it fall under unlawfully acquired evidence?

          • thejeff
            thejeff
            May 15, 2018 at 12:52 pm | #

            IANAL, but my understanding is that if I obtain evidence illegally and turn it over to the police, they can use it. They can’t get it illegally themselves (and couldn’t hire me to do so.) Of course, there could be all sorts of questions about the authenticity of the evidence and I could certainly be busted for anything illegal I did to get it.

            Probably better, if less genre appropriate, to stalk him until the appropriate moment when he’s committing a crime or surrounded by evidence and call the cops on him them. Less questions when the cops find him hanging out with the boys in the meth lab or whatever it is he does for the mob.

  36. SlothfulCobra
    SlothfulCobra
    May 15, 2018 at 8:38 am | #

    Amber, you got like a speck, you might wanna, y’know

  37. Zee
    Zee
    May 15, 2018 at 9:52 am | #

    Sometimes you gotta go where people kinda know your name!

  38. Ziggy
    Ziggy
    May 15, 2018 at 11:15 am | #

    Amber and Walky! Ship it! Ship it! What happens on the Garbage roof, stays on the garbage roof.

    • C.T Phipps
      C.T Phipps
      May 15, 2018 at 12:57 pm | #

      I ship it!

  39. Shawn Levasseur
    Shawn Levasseur
    May 15, 2018 at 2:33 pm | #

    Garbage Roof: Where everybody knows you’re lame!

  40. MutantSentry
    MutantSentry
    May 15, 2018 at 2:34 pm | #

    …damn wish I had any talent for lyrics, I feel like we need a Dumbing of Age filk to the Cheers theme about Garbage Roof….

    • PB
      PB
      May 15, 2018 at 7:02 pm | #

      Your wish is my command! Just gimme a minute.

    • PB
      PB
      May 15, 2018 at 7:13 pm | #

      ♫ Making the grade and having mental pain takes everything you’ve got
      Shirking the pressures of friends and loved ones sure would help a lot… ♫

      ♫ Wouldn’t your feelings like a break? ♫

      ♫ Sometimes you wanna go where everybody knows you’re lame!
      And they don’t judge that you came!
      You wanna be where people see
      That everyone shares the pain
      You wanna be where everybody knows you’re lame!
      You wanna go where people know
      That all our sh*t smells the same!
      You wanna go where everybody knows you’re lame… ♫

      • PB
        PB
        May 15, 2018 at 7:13 pm | #

        (Thanks to Shawn Levasseur for unintentional inspiration)

      • Marsh Maryrose
        Marsh Maryrose
        May 15, 2018 at 8:50 pm | #

        Bravo!

  41. nothri
    nothri
    May 15, 2018 at 10:59 pm | #

    I feel like Amazigirl should maybe hold out for better than the Garbage Roof when claiming her version of the Fortress of Solitude/batcave/avengers manor.

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