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Assembling

by David M Willis on February 17, 2019 at 12:01 am
  • 02 - But the Sun Still Shines
└ Tags: amber, ruth

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  1. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    February 17, 2019 at 12:02 am | #

    “I got you figured out, Rukia”

    “SHIT”

    • ReFlex76
      ReFlex76
      February 17, 2019 at 12:50 am | #

      Well, Rukia is *literally* death.

  2. AnvilPro
    AnvilPro
    February 17, 2019 at 12:03 am | #

    Ruth is really savvy to this genre

    • C.T Phipps
      C.T Phipps
      February 17, 2019 at 12:04 am | #

      “This is so me! Make me your sidekick!”

    • Deanatay
      Deanatay
      February 17, 2019 at 6:19 pm | #

      Analog to “Your approval fills me with shame.”

      “I empathize with your feelings. THAT SHOULD WORRY YOU.”

  3. C.T Phipps
    C.T Phipps
    February 17, 2019 at 12:03 am | #

    I think Amber is going to recruit Ruth and the two of them are going to start beating people to death.

    But they’ll be racists and misogynists so I don’t care.

    🙂

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      February 17, 2019 at 12:05 am | #

      “No you can’t put a Maple Leafs logo on your superhero costume! People will call you Lost Cause Girl!”

      • tim gueguen
        tim gueguen
        February 17, 2019 at 12:09 am | #

        Ruth can’t use the name Lost Girl, that’s already been taken.

      • Cholma
        Cholma
        February 17, 2019 at 12:17 am | #

        If she changes from a blue maple leaf to a green one, people might think she’s Vindicator from Alpha Flight! (and maybe think Amazi-Girl is a gender-bent Puck?)

        • Batman
          Batman
          February 17, 2019 at 11:01 am | #

          Not the f*cking vindicators Morty

      • DailyBrad
        DailyBrad
        February 17, 2019 at 12:27 am | #

        Picturing Maple-rangs.

        • Tim
          Tim
          February 17, 2019 at 2:40 am | #

          Canada-ay-rangs

        • Ana Chronistic
          Ana Chronistic
          February 17, 2019 at 1:49 pm | #

          Aboot-arangs

      • Bickendan
        Bickendan
        February 17, 2019 at 6:17 am | #

        “Why are they calling us the Maple Leaf Rag?”

    • Laladoria
      Laladoria
      February 17, 2019 at 1:37 am | #

      I thought you meant Ruth and Amber are racists and misogynists and I was very confused.

    • Shane Wegner
      Shane Wegner
      February 17, 2019 at 3:14 am | #

      I think Ruth would recognize that as the unrealistic shenanigans it is.

      • C.T Phipps
        C.T Phipps
        February 17, 2019 at 12:00 pm | #

        I am confused at the thought that Ruth is any more sensible than anyone else in this strip. She manifestly is not.

  4. King Daniel
    King Daniel
    February 17, 2019 at 12:03 am | #

    Dumbing of Age: come for the light-switch-flipping, stay for the drama.

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      February 17, 2019 at 12:05 am | #

      Flip the light switch back on, I can’t see the drama!

      • ShinyNeen
        ShinyNeen
        February 17, 2019 at 12:18 am | #

        But the best drama happens in the dark!

        • Marsh Maryrose
          Marsh Maryrose
          February 17, 2019 at 1:46 am | #

          Man…they whisper promises in the dark.

          • CianM1301
            CianM1301
            February 17, 2019 at 4:48 am | #

            Just be careful making wishes in it.

          • Reltzik
            Reltzik
            February 17, 2019 at 9:25 am | #

            Amber desperately searched for a way to conquer her fear.

            (And how many other people will get the reference?)

            • Mephron
              Mephron
              February 18, 2019 at 7:35 pm | #

              Ah, the classical music of my youth…

              A little Pat Benatar is a good thing.

  5. William Leonard Reese Jr.
    William Leonard Reese Jr.
    February 17, 2019 at 12:04 am | #

    Welp. Ruth hit the nail right on the head. Now we just have to see how Amber reacts to someone figuring her out so damned much.

  6. C.T Phipps
    C.T Phipps
    February 17, 2019 at 12:04 am | #

    Can Ruth help Amazi-Girl destroy the evil Amber and thus finally be the person she deserves to be? We can only hope.

    • DailyBrad
      DailyBrad
      February 17, 2019 at 12:10 am | #

      Maybe it’s better if they mix together, like Piccolo and Kami.

      • ReFlex76
        ReFlex76
        February 17, 2019 at 12:52 am | #

        “Hi Kamiccolo!”

      • Sunny
        Sunny
        February 17, 2019 at 3:49 am | #

        I’m not sure that fits completely since Piccolo (senior) and Kami were originally the same person. And I think Piccolo (junior) was a sort of reincarnation of just that half of the original person they were. So that might have been more a case of putting the pieces of a person back together.

        Maybe we should go with Piccolo and Nail as an example.

        • Eldritch Gentleman
          Eldritch Gentleman
          February 17, 2019 at 6:51 am | #

          I’m not so sure about that. Piccolo Daimao was completely evil while Piccolo Junior was capable of good and changed with time so Junior is really more of a son than reincarnation

          • Sunny
            Sunny
            February 17, 2019 at 2:55 pm | #

            Reincarnating does not mean that you remain completely unchanged, however. It may be the same soul, but it belongs to a new person with their own unique experiences. It’s a quite different view from Christianity where the soul gets to have one single go at living and then it’s waiting for judgement day (or getting judged immediately and going to heaven or hell or limbo, various churches and pop culture strains disagree on some of the particulars). The general gist in Buddhism is to strive for enlightenment until you can stop reincarnating. Kami was all the enlightened bits of the soul, and Piccolo Senior was all the unenlightened bits of the same soul. After reincarnating once that part was ever so slightly more enlightened, which is why Piccolo Junior was able to change in ways Piccolo Senior couldn’t have.

      • Ed Rhodes
        Ed Rhodes
        February 17, 2019 at 2:15 pm | #

        I’m thinking YaYa and NaNa from the manga, “Othello.” (Named after the game, not the Shakespearean play!)

        https://mangarock.com/manga/mrs-serie-187960

    • JBento
      JBento
      February 17, 2019 at 8:57 am | #

      You… you know that AG is pretty trash, right?

      • Eldritch Gentleman
        Eldritch Gentleman
        February 17, 2019 at 10:03 am | #

        There is enough room in the dumpster for everyone

        • JBento
          JBento
          February 17, 2019 at 10:06 am | #

          And that’s BEFORE it’s on fire.

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        February 17, 2019 at 11:25 am | #

        Some people seem to agree with Amber’s self-assessment: She’s a monster and Amazi-Girl is the pure one.

        • BBCC
          BBCC
          February 17, 2019 at 11:44 am | #

          Those people always seem to forget it’s AG who was the one stalking Sal with the intention of picking a fight.

          • C.T Phipps
            C.T Phipps
            February 17, 2019 at 12:01 pm | #

            Yes and it was Amazi-Girl who realized she was being insensible. Holding Sal accountable for actions as a minor was a mistake.

            However, it was Amber’s best friend at knife point.

            • BBCC
              BBCC
              February 17, 2019 at 3:56 pm | #

              The problem wasn’t holding Sal accountable, the problem was being a stalker who basically admitted she was looking for a fight.

  7. Yumi
    Yumi
    February 17, 2019 at 12:05 am | #

    I’m cheering Ruth on for this. All my RA ever did was pass out drunk in the communal bathroom.

    • lilyliv --> ian livs
      lilyliv --> ian livs
      February 17, 2019 at 12:07 am | #

      Despite her questionable behavior in the past, I’m also really cheering for her now. She’s trying to better herself and now she’s trying to help someone else with similar struggles, and I really respect that.

      All my brother’s RA does is stick dinosaur cutouts on his door. I think my brother’s met him a couple times in 2 years?

      • lilyliv --> ian livs
        lilyliv --> ian livs
        February 17, 2019 at 12:08 am | #

        (Tbf, dinosaurs are cool, but still.)

    • AntJ
      AntJ
      February 17, 2019 at 12:08 am | #

      I mean, Ruth did that too

      • Yumi
        Yumi
        February 17, 2019 at 12:09 am | #

        Naw, she stuck to her own room.

    • Yumi
      Yumi
      February 17, 2019 at 12:15 am | #

      (She was fired after that, and I don’t think I ever even met the replacement– including when I had to take academic leave that then required me to move out of the dorms in the middle of the semester due to my own suicidality.)

    • BarerMender
      BarerMender
      February 17, 2019 at 1:21 am | #

      Lucky you. My RA was my roommate. Until he got tired of my shit and moved to another room. I got a lot single rooms that way. It worked in the Air Force, too.

      • Odditude
        Odditude
        February 17, 2019 at 4:55 am | #

        You… sound oddly proud of that?

        • Zach
          Zach
          February 17, 2019 at 8:40 am | #

          This is why it’s actually important not to allow jerks their little victories, we need to socially discourage the behaviors.

          • Batman
            Batman
            February 17, 2019 at 11:07 am | #

            How do socially discourage someone who lives outside of society and by their own rules?

            • StClair
              StClair
              February 17, 2019 at 12:00 pm | #

              The usual way is by enforcing consequences. Like exile.
              “Okay, you want to live outside of society? You get to live outside of society.“

              • StClair
                StClair
                February 17, 2019 at 12:07 pm | #

                (i.e., you don’t get to take advantage of it without contributing in some/any way.)

                • Corey
                  Corey
                  February 17, 2019 at 1:19 pm | #

                  You guys are making a lot of assumptions about a person from one comment and thats not cool.

        • BarerMender
          BarerMender
          February 17, 2019 at 5:15 pm | #

          Nah. I was an unsocialized mountaineer from an abusive family and didn’t have much concept there were people around me. I was alone inside my own little shell and didn’t know what I was doing to others.

  8. Stephen Bierce
    Stephen Bierce
    February 17, 2019 at 12:07 am | #

    *plays The Rolling Stones “Flip the Switch” on the hacked Muzak*

    • Stephen Bierce
      Stephen Bierce
      February 17, 2019 at 12:09 am | #

      Baby I’m ready to go!

  9. not someone else
    not someone else
    February 17, 2019 at 12:07 am | #

    That is definitely an “oh shit, I’m stuck” kind of silence.

    • Yumi
      Yumi
      February 17, 2019 at 12:08 am | #

      Amber’s just gotta repeat what Ruth said in that mocking Spongebob way that Billie did earlier, and she’ll have won the conversation.

  10. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    February 17, 2019 at 12:08 am | #

    a decent heart to heart conversation.

  11. nothri
    nothri
    February 17, 2019 at 12:08 am | #

    Are we talking Death from Neil Gaiman’s Sandman series? Cause she was cute. I’d take that as a “punishment” sure. Long as I still get to live, of course.

  12. DailyBrad
    DailyBrad
    February 17, 2019 at 12:09 am | #

    Well. That’s a mood and a half.

    I do hope having it put into words will help both of them, but I don’t know that for sure yet. I hope that they can be friends, but it’s difficult to tell where this conversation may end up leading.

    To live would be an awfully big adventure, Amber. Hook told me so.

  13. Rabid Rabbit
    Rabid Rabbit
    February 17, 2019 at 12:11 am | #

    People think English is a useless degree. What they don’t realise is that English majors are trained to take narratives apart and figure out how they work. To analyse what’s going on behind the words and the actions. Spy agencies love English PhDs as analysts.

    We’re also good at knowing how to use symbolism at the proper moment. For instance, when a character flicks on the lights to indicate that they’re going to shine light onto a situation, even if the other person would prefer to keep things in the dark.

    In other words, Ruth is currently presenting us with a masterclass in what English degrees can be good for, and we her fellows salute her for it.

    • newllend(henryvolt)
      newllend(henryvolt)
      February 17, 2019 at 12:20 am | #

      I bet you’ve never been more proud as to have Ruth as your Gravatar huh?

      • Rabid Rabbit
        Rabid Rabbit
        February 17, 2019 at 12:23 am | #

        The face Ruth is making in my gravatar is the face all English majors make in the split second between someone suggesting that English is a useless degree and that person’s gratuitously violent demise.

        • StClair
          StClair
          February 17, 2019 at 12:26 am | #

          or, at least, removal of their femurs.

          • Batman
            Batman
            February 17, 2019 at 11:11 am | #

            That’s cute. Not a STEM subject so should be cut from formal education. Oh yh and how are you going to take my femur after I sever both brachial plexi thus unplugging your arms from your nervous system.

    • BarerMender
      BarerMender
      February 17, 2019 at 1:26 am | #

      I should’ve been an English major. Knew it, too. But I also knew I didn’t have the concentration to read all the tedious old literature English majors have to read. So I majored in math.

      • HeySo
        HeySo
        February 17, 2019 at 3:07 am | #

        They say that all math majors eventually go insane.
        A different hypothesis is, math majors get into math because they were insane to begin with.

        On the other hand, if, when considering the equation for your future, you valued math higher than English, perhaps you actually needed the extra math study.

        Unfortunately, now you’ve studied it too much, and it has addled your mind to the point that you’re running around in clown-face trying to get Batman-senpai to notice you. Metaphorically speaking. Well, one hopes.

        I was only teasing, okay. Please don’t use any weird gases on me..

        • StClair
          StClair
          February 17, 2019 at 3:21 am | #

          Causality is weak in math. The equations can be read in either direction.

          • wwwhhattt
            wwwhhattt
            February 17, 2019 at 6:23 am | #

            To be fair that’s a problem in physics too* (sure, in practical terms one direction is much easier than the other(s?), but theoretically there’s no reason that physical laws can’t work in both directions)(except for thermodynamics)

            *or at least that’s what I remember from a course on time I took 10 years ago…

            • StClair
              StClair
              February 17, 2019 at 12:13 pm | #

              I know enough science to know that “except for thermodynamics” is one hell of a “but”.

              (Like that song from The Wiz: “You can’t win, child; you can’t break even; you can’t get out of the game.”)

              • thejeff
                thejeff
                February 17, 2019 at 3:36 pm | #

                On the individual particle physics level, even thermodynamics isn’t a bar, IIRC.

                When particles interact, their properties are conserved, whichever direction you run the interaction in.
                Two particles collide and fuse, emitting a photon. A photon impacts on a particle, splitting it in two. There’s no difference.

                On the macro level entropy wins, but that not being true on the micro level is intriguing.

                Or at least it was from what I recall studying physics 20+ years ago.

        • BarerMender
          BarerMender
          February 17, 2019 at 5:12 pm | #

          “Equation for my future.” As if I were capable of imagining the future. I have no sense of time passing. I took math because I was curious. There was something going on there and I wanted to know what it was. Yeah, I know, introductory calculus would’ve satisfied that. But I had to major in something.

          • HeySo
            HeySo
            February 17, 2019 at 10:04 pm | #

            That’s true. If you were capable of imagining the future, you’d likely have gone into one of art, creative writing, music composition, or extra sensory chronomanipulation with an emphasis in postmodern studies.

            I guess getting into a field of study with an actual shot at post-graduation employment has its own merits, though.

    • Shane Wegner
      Shane Wegner
      February 17, 2019 at 8:54 am | #

      Spy agencies tend to have bonuses for hard math.

  14. BBCC
    BBCC
    February 17, 2019 at 12:11 am | #

    I mean, that’s the crux of a lot of Amber’s issues, isn’t it?

    Not quite a ‘death wish’ but the next level down. Poor Amber.

    And yeah, even in Amber’s head where death comes as a punishment, it would not go well if it happened. Even if Sal didn’t go to jail, she’d have been horrified if she actually killed Amber imo.

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      February 17, 2019 at 12:12 am | #

      Also, I think Ruth would make a stunning psych major if English doesn’t work out, and the fit gramps would throw can be damned.

      • Yumi
        Yumi
        February 17, 2019 at 12:17 am | #

        Or social work.

        • BBCC
          BBCC
          February 17, 2019 at 12:25 am | #

          ANYBODY would be better at that than Mike.

          • AntJ
            AntJ
            February 17, 2019 at 1:31 am | #

            Are you kidding? Mike is an expert at reading people and responding accordingly. Pointed in the right direction he’d be fantastic. (Yes, he needs to be less of a sociopath.)

            • BBCC
              BBCC
              February 17, 2019 at 1:35 am | #

              That last sentence is the problem. 😛

            • JBento
              JBento
              February 17, 2019 at 9:02 am | #

              I’m still trying to figure out WHY Mike would go into social work. The world is a target-rich environment for him anyways, and going into social work just puts him in contact with potential victims who are too easy to be fun to mess with (I know this, because it’s a similar philosophy to the one I use when it comes to breaking game systems – if you give me an obvious “I win” button, there’s no point to it; it’s the ones that you need to combo at least 3 things that are entertaining).

              • Sam
                Sam
                February 17, 2019 at 10:51 am | #

                Mike is an equal opportunity destroyer. It would put him in contact with very vulnerable people, but also the abusers and assholes and terrible people that would require more work to destroy as well. And we know Mike doesn’t actually like letting such people get off scot-free.

                And otherwise, generally it is just a very weird trend for people to go into courses completely ill-suited for them e.g. taking psychology when they have no patience for people; learning teaching when they don’t like children. And it is very strange and disconcerting.

                • thejeff
                  thejeff
                  February 17, 2019 at 11:24 am | #

                  Do we? He hasn’t shown any signs of targeting the abusers and assholes since the childhood sequence with Blaine.
                  He’s seemed quite content to stick with the easy targets – mostly his two “friends” who lack the self-esteem to cut ties with him and Walky, who’s stuck as his roommate.

            • HMRC4EVR
              HMRC4EVR
              February 17, 2019 at 11:01 am | #

              I just realized Mike is DoA’s Nick Wilde (to a degree).
              Humm…would that make Joyce Judy?

            • Charlotte
              Charlotte
              February 17, 2019 at 4:47 pm | #

              I guess here’s the “Mike’s abusive behaviour is fine because he could use it for good (whatever that means)” brigade again… 🙁

              • BBCC
                BBCC
                February 17, 2019 at 5:05 pm | #

                Nah, they already said Mike would need to be far less of a shithead. His shitheadedness is the problem, though, so that is why I was him 24601 miles away from the social work program.

  15. Marsh Maryrose
    Marsh Maryrose
    February 17, 2019 at 12:12 am | #

    Amber, you’ve clearly needed a more stable, available confidante.

  16. Lily
    Lily
    February 17, 2019 at 12:16 am | #

    Haha relatable

  17. brionl
    brionl
    February 17, 2019 at 12:16 am | #

    Of course they’re flipping the light switches.

    The heavy switches are too flippin’ heavy!

    • Makkabee
      Makkabee
      February 17, 2019 at 11:23 am | #

      Nah, they’ve both got healla good upper body strength. They can flip heavy switches too.

  18. StClair
    StClair
    February 17, 2019 at 12:39 am | #

    As I said in a past comment – probably about the time Ruth was the one lying on the bed in the dark:

    Oh, I don’t want to kill myself.
    Or die, really.
    But [i]being[/i] dead, yeah, that sounds nice.
    Dark. Quiet. Restful.

    (I’m feeling much better now, honest.)

    • StClair
      StClair
      February 17, 2019 at 12:39 am | #

      … curse you, bbcode.

      • Marsh Maryrose
        Marsh Maryrose
        February 17, 2019 at 1:09 am | #

        Thank goodness for standards!

    • Rabid Rabbit
      Rabid Rabbit
      February 17, 2019 at 12:44 am | #

      But killing yourself is just so much effort.
      Sleep till I starve to death?
      Well, that might work…

      • King Daniel
        King Daniel
        February 17, 2019 at 1:15 am | #

        The story of Bartleby the Scrivener comes to mind.

        (also, mood. not so much right now, but other times…)

        • Marsh Maryrose
          Marsh Maryrose
          February 17, 2019 at 1:28 am | #

          Dorothy Parker reads Resumé

          Razors pain you;
          Rivers are damp;
          Acids stain you;
          And drugs cause cramp.
          Guns aren’t lawful;
          Nooses give;
          Gas smells awful;
          You might as well live.

      • Marsh Maryrose
        Marsh Maryrose
        February 17, 2019 at 1:24 am | #

        Come, heavy sleep, the image of true Death….Come thou, and charm these rebels in my breast/Whose waking fancies do my mind affright

        Honestly, not the best song if you have insomnia or are depressed. Forget I mentioned it.

        • Rabid Rabbit
          Rabid Rabbit
          February 17, 2019 at 1:26 am | #

          Oh, there’s nothing wrong with Dowland…

          In darkness let me dwell; the ground shall sorrow be,
          The roof despair, to bar all cheerful light from me;
          The walls of marble black, that moist’ned still shall weep;
          My music, hellish jarring sounds, to banish friendly sleep.
          Thus, wedded to my woes, and bedded in my tomb,
          O let me living die, till death doth come, till death doth come.

          Well, OK, maybe there was something wrong with Dowland.

          • Marsh Maryrose
            Marsh Maryrose
            February 17, 2019 at 1:33 am | #

            He was just an artist of his times. The late English Renaissance was goth as hell.

      • Arian
        Arian
        February 17, 2019 at 4:07 am | #

        That’s always been the thing that saved me. By the time I had the ability to move enough to do anything about it, I didn’t feel bad enough to do it any more. If you could stop living just by deciding to, I’d have been screwed.

        • Sam
          Sam
          February 17, 2019 at 11:17 am | #

          The sucky thing is that some people when they start antidepressants tend to get their energy back before their mood improves. Which is why you have to watch people who have just started them carefully because they now have the energy to act and their mood is still at a dangerusly low point.

        • StClair
          StClair
          February 17, 2019 at 11:51 am | #

          If you could stop living just by deciding to, I’d have been screwed.

          A while back, IIRC, someone noted that if that was so, no one / maybe 1 in 10 would make it through adolescence.

  19. Theluxland
    Theluxland
    February 17, 2019 at 1:05 am | #

    Boy I don’t like to relate to that too much.

  20. newllend(henryvolt)
    newllend(henryvolt)
    February 17, 2019 at 1:12 am | #

    So I’m assuming a lot of people here are as a lost for words as I was last night on the 5$ Patreon page….This Over the top method of penance it’s just damn foolish, I don’t know anything else to say about this

    • motorfirebox
      motorfirebox
      February 17, 2019 at 9:49 pm | #

      Most people are pretty foolish. Some of us are even more foolish than that.

  21. JetstreamGW
    JetstreamGW
    February 17, 2019 at 1:15 am | #

    “It’d be nice if I wasn’t alive anymore,” is still suicidal ideation, Amber.

    You don’t actually have to be intent on doing it yourself.

    • Sam
      Sam
      February 17, 2019 at 11:21 am | #

      People don’t tend to know this unfortunately. They tend to think it must mean ‘I want to be dead’ when it can mean just not caring if the result is death or not wanting to continue to be alive. It can be taking small risks that may on an off-chance kill you, but likely won’t. It can be thinking it would be nice to just be in a void instead of alive.

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        February 17, 2019 at 11:51 am | #

        It’s possible, but I don’t think we’ve actually seen that in Amber. I don’t recall a “It’d be nice if I wasn’t alive anymore” or anything similar.

        She takes a lot of risks as Amazi-Girl, but that in and of itself isn’t sufficient, I think.
        The “End it” in the Sal fight is the biggest clue, but there are other explanations for that than that she was actually trying to use Sal to kill her. If it was even that active, she could have let herself fail at any point and gotten herself killed.

        • Sam
          Sam
          February 17, 2019 at 8:57 pm | #

          Suicidal ideation doesn’t have to be active, it can be passive – Amber’s is passive, which is literally what Ruth is calling her out on.

          She takes a lot of risks, does high risk stunts, gets into fights with people and takes very few real precautions. She doesn’t actively try to die or fail in most serious situations; but she would welcome death if it came as a consequence of her actions. She isn’t actively suicidal – she doesn’t intend to throw herself into oncoming traffic or have a plan to do it to herself or even likely think of doing it to herself. But she would be perfectly fine with being ‘unlucky’ and strayed into being more actively suicidal by not freeing herself from the chokehold but was still mostly being passively so as the chance of ‘dying’ from that is pretty low.

          • thejeff
            thejeff
            February 17, 2019 at 10:10 pm | #

            As I said, it’s possible.
            But you’re reading a lot into it and assuming that Ruth is right here. I do get the distinction between active and passive, but I think the evidence is thin that she’s even passively suicidal.

            • BarerMender
              BarerMender
              February 18, 2019 at 1:45 am | #

              “She says she saved your life.” “Well that’s the second worst thing she’s ever done to me, but the day is still young.”

  22. Nono
    Nono
    February 17, 2019 at 1:19 am | #

    Let’s put it simply: poor Ethan.

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      February 17, 2019 at 2:31 am | #

      🙁

  23. Josh Spicer
    Josh Spicer
    February 17, 2019 at 1:26 am | #

    Oh fuck.

    That’s…that’s one of those lines that stick with a person.

  24. abysswatcher1993
    abysswatcher1993
    February 17, 2019 at 1:32 am | #

    People that seek dangerous situations do it because 1)they want to risk their lives to help others, 2)they are thrill seekers that don’t care about the consequences of their fun, and 3)they think they deserve to die.

    • abysswatcher1993
      abysswatcher1993
      February 17, 2019 at 1:33 am | #

      I should have said “or”, but the implications with Amber can go with “and” or “or” and would still make her look liek she needs help. She really needs help.

      • theKOT
        theKOT
        February 17, 2019 at 1:59 am | #

        As someone who has completely been there, there is an additional option. I was in a space where life seemed too scary so dying didn’t seem so bad. I didn’t think that I deserved punishment, but I thought dying wasn’t especially abhorrent.

    • Nono
      Nono
      February 17, 2019 at 2:15 am | #

      As an amendment to 2, you can definitely be a thrill seeker that care about yoru consequences. Regulated thrill seeking can be a thing as long as you understand the risks and consequences involved.

    • BenRG
      BenRG
      February 17, 2019 at 2:44 am | #

      At the time of her rescue of Becky, I felt that it was likely that Amber was trying to turn it into her ‘redemption by death’ moment.

  25. Xccj
    Xccj
    February 17, 2019 at 2:05 am | #

    Hmm, I thought she was going to say it was their shared desire to beat on their overbearing father/grandfather deal, but yeah I guess that other thing is true too. 😉

  26. Bagge
    Bagge
    February 17, 2019 at 2:27 am | #

    FUDGE YOU BLAINE!!!!!

  27. showler
    showler
    February 17, 2019 at 2:38 am | #

    There’s still, like, a 50-50 chance that Dina is in the room, right?

    Hopefully, Becky gets her out of the room more often.

    • Keulen
      Keulen
      February 17, 2019 at 2:45 am | #

      Last time we saw Dina was right after Joyce read Amber’s smutty fanfic. So she might still be in the room as this is going on.

  28. BenRG
    BenRG
    February 17, 2019 at 2:43 am | #

    In the last panel today, Amber learns that hearing someone say it so baldly is a lot worse than just having it in your head.

    • ruhrow
      ruhrow
      February 17, 2019 at 8:15 am | #

      Worse? Or maybe just…terrifying and relieving at the same time? Not that I’d know anything about being called out on self-destructive tendencies and passive suicidality. [whistles distractingly and pointedly looks away]

      • StClair
        StClair
        February 17, 2019 at 11:53 am | #

        Of course not.
        (I’d join you, but I’ve never been able to whistle.)

  29. Plasma Mongoose
    Plasma Mongoose
    February 17, 2019 at 3:23 am | #

    Amber seeks Death by Crook?

    • BenRG
      BenRG
      February 17, 2019 at 3:43 am | #

      More likely Death by Pyrrhic Victory.

  30. sunflowerofice
    sunflowerofice
    February 17, 2019 at 3:34 am | #

    When the only reason you live is because you fear trying to end life or something like that you do find yourself hoping something beyond your control will do the job for you.

  31. ninja_jesus
    ninja_jesus
    February 17, 2019 at 4:17 am | #

    Eyy, I knew it. Amber wants to die.

  32. Piotr W
    Piotr W
    February 17, 2019 at 5:55 am | #

    Ruth is scoring some big respect points with me lately…

  33. Delicious Taffy
    Delicious Taffy
    February 17, 2019 at 8:17 am | #

    Oh no, Ruth is gonna try to kill Amber! This is worse than the choke hold incident!

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      February 17, 2019 at 8:38 am | #

      Nah, that’s a stern look of concern.

      Constern.

  34. Luna
    Luna
    February 17, 2019 at 8:40 am | #

    Really hope that last panel is Amber realizing just how fucked up it is to want to make someone else responsible for your suicide because that is uhh Real Bad.

    • Sam
      Sam
      February 17, 2019 at 11:31 am | #

      I don’t think she wants someone else to be ‘responsible’ per se so much as she just wants her death to not be caused by herself personally. For it to be out of her control. For it to be something that ‘just happened’. And she’s not really thinking much further than that, just that it won’t hurt her family and friends if it isn’t directly caused by herself.

      • Luna
        Luna
        February 17, 2019 at 1:59 pm | #

        Yeah, my phrasing was slightly off, but still. If she was going to let Sal kill her, that’s a feeling she needs to think about and actually grapple with. I’ve said before self-loathing can easily make one very self-absorbed (speaking from experience), and this should be a big red blaring alarm for Amber that her belief she’s worthless can hurt people other than herself.

        • TemperaryObsessor
          TemperaryObsessor
          February 17, 2019 at 8:04 pm | #

          If Amber had killed Middle name Ryan it in some ways would have been one last act of violence he committed against women.

    • poofdepoof
      poofdepoof
      February 17, 2019 at 3:27 pm | #

      I don’t think it is; I think she’s just feeling vulnerable because Ruth is seeing her accurately, and defensive (and even more self-absorbed) because of it.

      I would like her to one day have clarity about that, though. That Sal does not deserve to be a murderer.

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        February 17, 2019 at 3:39 pm | #

        Well, to have clarity about it in your sense, the idea that Amber actually wanted Sal to kill her has to be true.

        Perhaps Amber’s clarity came then and it was that Sal wasn’t a murderer? And that she was willing to trust that.
        Seems to make as much sense as anything else.

  35. Vulcanodon
    Vulcanodon
    February 17, 2019 at 9:50 am | #

    Relatable. When you know an outright suicide would devastate people you care about but they could cope with death that was an incidental outcome to something else.

  36. Micah Pearson
    Micah Pearson
    February 17, 2019 at 11:05 am | #

    Wow. Of all the comics to hit super close to home, it had to be this one to make me make my first comment and say: “ouch”

    • ShinyNeen
      ShinyNeen
      February 17, 2019 at 12:55 pm | #

      Comic is just like this sometimes. …Well, comic is like this rather a lot, actually!

      *Appropriate gesture of support* for you and everyone else who can or have been able to relate to this. It’s rough stuff.

  37. C.T Phipps
    C.T Phipps
    February 17, 2019 at 12:02 pm | #

    Ruth and Amber should go tape their fists up and go on a rampage!

    RAMPAGGGGGE!

  38. hof1991
    hof1991
    February 17, 2019 at 12:05 pm | #

    Amazi-Girl really is Batman.

  39. ShinyNeen
    ShinyNeen
    February 17, 2019 at 12:46 pm | #

    Amber’s sheer resistance to anyone trying to address her self-hatred is the part of all this that makes me the most worried.

    I mean, it’s all bad, but that’s the most relatable part for me. I’m just struck by how her eyebrows keep managing to intensify as Ruth gets closer to her point : (

    • ShinyNeen
      ShinyNeen
      February 17, 2019 at 1:00 pm | #

      Also I’m glad Ruth had the energy to flip a lightswitch, and so much more!

  40. RobinReneeW
    RobinReneeW
    February 17, 2019 at 1:35 pm | #

    Wow, I’m feeling very seen here, and I’m not sure how I feel about that.

  41. C.T Phipps
    C.T Phipps
    February 17, 2019 at 2:22 pm | #

    I’m confused why Ruth didn’t burst into flames with the light switch being flipped.

    Like one of the krill.

  42. Deanatay
    Deanatay
    February 17, 2019 at 6:26 pm | #

    Amber doesn’t believe in suicide. Unless it’s Suicide By Justice.

  43. AutobotDen
    AutobotDen
    February 17, 2019 at 9:56 pm | #

    Ruth, you are doing things right, and I have faith that you will be alright eventually. Things are gonna suck for awhile, and you may backslide a bit, but you will come out in the black.

    Amber, the headspace you’re in is not healthy and you are in dire need of help, and possibly medication, but mostly a lot of therapy. including the type that primarily focuses on CPTSD.

  44. Hinoron
    Hinoron
    February 18, 2019 at 1:44 pm | #

    A world of difference between “suicidal behavior” and “self-destructive behavior”, for all that they may have similar motivations. The latter is frightfully more common.

    We do not consider people who attempt to commit suicide to be entirely “sane”, and yet, otherwise sane people commit self-destructive behaviors frequently.

    You could almost picture it as a sliding scale of one’s ability to function in society. Being a notch better than the point they don’t let you out in public unsupervised is a far cry from “everything’s fine.”

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