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A Master’s is the formal minimum for a teaching position, though there shouldn’t be any legal limitation that would prevent a university from making exceptions based on their own preferences.
Since DoA dedicatedly bases its university off of Indiana University, we can skip over broader considerations of US universities and simply look at what
that university lists.
Looking at IU’s faculty hiring, they have a Master’s minimum for many positions and even allow tenure-track for such hires. However, looking at the current faculty of the Gender Studies department, I can’t find a single non-PHD in the lot.
Ergo, until Word of Willis says otherwise, the best assumption is that Leslie does in fact have a PHD.
Leslie got really lucky snagging that position. Teaching a gender studies course is pretty much the only application there is for a gender studies degree.
Entirely inaccurate. There are people that I know with phds in Gender Studies that are: working in communications and research for legal advocacy organizations, editors of special projects for Slate, running their own businesses, working for the department of justice, running graduate student support for full universities, etc. When I was at a master’s level (I have a PhD now and am a professor), I was hired to coordainte an LGBTQ rights poliitical advocacy group, ran communications for a transnational nonprofit, worked in a non-profit to support homeless kids who were homeless on their own, and worked as a career advisor to college students. There’s a lot of applications for gender studies degrees.
And… Not a single one of those actually needs, or even really uses, a Gender Studies degree.
But to be honest, most jobs don’t actually care what degree you have from college. My step-mother was an Oceanography Major working in the IT department of Dominion Power. Places will hire anyone with a degree.
My daughter is at IU and has been a TA since her second year. At that point, she had not earned enough credits for her MA. She has been teaching first year classes in her subject. I think that is pretty common at R1s across the country. Most people who earn a PhD probably have at least 3 years of teaching experience in this manner before they finish their program.
Most community colleges require a Master’s, but universities often have TAs with only Bachelor’s degrees teaching classes, especially introductory classes like ENG101. That said, a gender studies class? There aren’t usually enough sections to hand out to TAs, so I’m betting Leslie’s an assistant prof, which these days would almost certainly mean a Ph.D.
That was the path my own thoughts went down, as I wrote my previous post. Leslie didn’t seem at all like a TA (given her familiarized, confident, relaxed control over the class, as well as her lack of any references towards second parties involved with the course), and even outside of the gender studies department, most of IU’s hiring listings for assistant professors that I came across were PHD minimum. Add in the fact that IU lists quite a few faculty for the department, and narrow niche that the field covers, and any non-graduate degree seemed unlikely. Likewise, her familarity with the campus and control over the class suggests she’s not a [lower degree] substitute for the semester, either.
I’ve assumed Leslie is a doctoral student, which means (if it’s anything like my program in English was) she is at least 22. It’s an intro course, which often are what gets pushed off on grad students and adjuncts.
PhD student here. I taught as an adjunct for 3 years (at 24-27 yo) with an MA at an upper SUNY lib arts school before entering my PhD program. It wasn’t the norm, but I have another colleague in my current department who did similar @ UMass. Many R1s require advancement to candidacy (completion of master’s coursework + dissertation prospectus) before solo-instructing classes, but not all.
Do we have proof that Leslie is more than an adjunct? If she is on tenure-track, and entered PhD program @ 22, minimum age would be 27-28. If she’s an adjunct, she could just have an MA and be mid-20s as well. However, most likely is 27+.
Real talk, though, if she was an adjunct, she could also be a 40-something PhD holder. With the shrinking tenure lines and increasing reliance on casualized labor across the academy, adjuncting is no long about age, experience, or degree.
I always figured around thirty, but I guess a few years younger is possible. She’s got to have at least a Masters and doesn’t seem inexperienced at her job, so definitely over 25 at least.
I remember back when I was in middle school, I was talking to this girl on AIM (we went to the same school but pretty much only talked on AIM), and I asked her if she had ever heard the phrase, “The more things change, the more they stay the same.”
Her reply was, “no, and that does not make any sense.”
I slept early yesterday and didn’t get in on the comments, but that big shiny eyed look Leslie had broke my heart :c Les honey please love yourself enough to start choosing people who treat you like you actually deserve, okay?
She’s still in that parking lot without pants waiting for her gal pal lesbian to come back.
I’m sad that every storyline since then hasn’t ended with a panel of her standing there.
Okay, there are lots of reasons why you wouldn’t, I live in Michigan, I know. But if you live in an area where the water supply is safe– *shrug.* I usually drink tap water. I do live in the same area I grew up in, which helps; I couldn’t drink the tap water at my college because it tasted weird and I was allergic. But most city water I find fine.
I’ve read in another article that chloramine (a relatively new city-water disinfectant) can leach enough lead out of your faucets to form visible pits.
if you still have lead in faucets, you should replace them. The leads comes out because it’s more water solvable then other metals are (yes, metals which are kept in water give off tiny amounts of ions. Always. More so, if the ph is lower or if you have several metal in the same water: the one with the lower redox potential is going to give up more ions and the one with the higher less. That’s why having a lead line between copper lines is a bad idea.)
Not that you’re wrong about the need to replace them, but…
“The American Water Works Association conducted a national survey to estimate the cost of replacing lead service lines. The average cost per replacement was $3200, with a range of $750 to $16000.” (circa 2004)
Short version: the lead industry lobbied to keep using lead products, primarily paint and pipe, right up until it was outlawed in 1986. So there’s still quite a bit of it around The US really got bamboozled on this one, afaik this stopped being a thing in other countries.
I believe a common location is the run from the street to the house, which tends to be in place for a long time and is largely invisible.
You Americans and you’re weird sense of tap water hygiene ^^. To be fair, GB and the South of Europe ain’t a lot better. But we Northern Europe countrys sure have great tasting tap water which is also safe. And we have bubbly water. Why don’t you guys have bubbly water?
Most towns out in the sticks in Texas have at least one store with a water fill-up station, and they get a LOT of use. We finally got running water just to the bath about a year and a half ago. However, we continue using the refillable 5 gallons for anything that isn’t cooking because it doesn’t taste like garbage. Likewise, I lived in a nearby city for around 7 years and never adapted to the water. I’d get stomach aches from drinking tap or getting soda at restaurants (not that that stopped me). For bottled water, I check the source first because there’s a few common ones (Keller, TX, for one) that really mess me up.
As a kid, we’d bring empty milk gallons to my grandmother’s and fill up on her well water because it tasted so much better. Running the tap until it stopped smelling like rotten eggs always sucked when you couldn’t smell half the time.
I always use my filter. Honestly, I suspect a big part of the benefit is it’s in my fridge, so the water’s just colder than I get from the tap, anyhow, but it does seem to influence the flavor a bit.
This is VERY true. The town I live in has TERRIBLE water, always tastes metallic and chemical-y, but a town 10 minutes away is fine, I drink their tap water all the time.
Yeah, it’s really variable around here too. Seems like every building has a different flavour… Which actually might be the case, since our water changed a lot when they replaced the pipes – it tasted like plastic for years :/ although they did say it was still safe to drink. It’s back to being fairly neutral now – much better than the gross taste at one friend’s house.
I always drink tap water.
Of course, it depends on where you are, whether the tap water is safe, chlorine free, and how it tastes.
I’ve been to places in Scandinavia where the tap water is delicious.
The FDA regulates bottled water, and the EPA regulates tap water. Depending on state-to-state regulations, tap water can actually be more heavily regulated than bottled, though Flint in my home state of MI puts paid to the notion of that always being a useful metric. On average though, tap is just as regulated as bottled, so really the only advantage to bottled water is… you get to make another empty plastic bottle, I guess..?
Tap water is more heavily regulated than bottled water, and doesn’t fill the oceans and landfills with plastic bottles.
Enforcement by regulators is the key, and regulatory agencies are under attack by…. someone.
It depends very much where you live and the source for that tap water. Tap water in my house is fine, so I don’t mind drinking it if the filter is out, but I can’t drink tap water when I visit my cousin up north because his tap water is well water and I have a heart condition, so it’s bottled all the way.
Over here in NYC, we apparently have amazing tap water thanks to Niagara or something, but if you’re in an area where the pipes haven’t been replaced in over 50 years, it’ll come out literally brown. I’m guessing the brown has to do with rusty old pipes or something, but I’m no pipe expert and I’m not gonna attempt to taste it to find out. Either way, we filter our tap water now (I mean, when it doesn’t come out brown anyway), and boy there’s a noticeable taste difference.
When it’s comes out brown, it’s not legal in Germany. Don’t know about the US, though. Over here, it’d be the landlord’s job to find out the source and remove it.
I don’t remember enough of this story thread to recall why she would care what Mindy thinks. Aside from being the girl with an unrequited crush/slash roommate of Anna, isn’t Mindy just sort of some random person?
She lied to Mindy and feels guilty about it. It was a “white” lie — she said that she didn’t want to date Mindy “because I’m not ready” when in fact she was quite ready to move on Anna — told to avoid hurting Mindy’s feelings in the moment. But she is afraid that when it gets revealed (as, we know, it must, because she’s binking Mindy’s flatmate) Mindy will be hurt and maybe angry.
Given that scene of Leia flying through space in the first of the new films, they may as well have given her a flaming skull head and had Nicholas Cage play her. Honestly, them fully embracing the film’s more absurd elements would have made it a fair bit better of a film than it was.
..similarly, having Carrie Fisher play Ghost Rider with force powers probably woulda made that film better, as well.
*adds this to the list of awesome things we’ll never see, right below “Good Omens” with Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman both working on the movie, with Robin Williams starring opposite David Tennant*
Becky was thinking Leslie was hiding the fact she was sleeping with Anna because she was embarrassed. Then Leslie said she was being discrete to protect Mindy’s feelings. So, Becky thought it wasn’t about shame. But it totally is.
Soooo is it just me or does the Leia poster somehow look sadder than it did two comics ago. It’s gaining sentience and is expressing displeasure that Becky is learning that shame….shame never changes.
If Becky brings a girl home, will Leia be more approving, or less because it’s literally on the couch of someone she’s crashing with in a one bedroom apartment?
And yeaaaaah – whether or not it was a lie or Leslie was genuinely unsure if her being ready was the problem but it’s gonna be awkward with Mindy anyways.
Best option here is to just be come clean with Mindy the next time Leslie sees her. One really are awkward confrontation should be less of a pain then being this paranoid about keeping secrets. Also it’s not like Mindy will think less of Leslie just because she’s not her type, she will however think less of her for not being upfront about it.
Not gonna lie – Anna insulting the water in the background is HILARIOUS!
I start to wonder if she has tourettes or something. Her constant insulting of everyone seems less like Mike’s calculated assholery and more like soemthing that just happens.
Initially she reminded me of Malaya – not so much calculated dickery as just not caring to think through her words and blurting whatever comes to mind. Which is usually dickish.
Does anyone know if tap water is on average bad for your teeth?
In most civilised places tap-water contains fluoride, which is very slightly good for your teeth after they have formed, but really quite good for them while they are forming. As for bottled water, most is just the local tapwater, perhaps filtered. So that’s fine. Other bottled water is actually taken from springs or bores, so what it contains and whether it is good for any bits of you is highly variable and dependent on the geology or the source.
I’m not sure this is so (the “Most civilized places tap water contains fluoride” part!). According to wikipedia, a good 97% of Europe does not Fluoridate their water supplies.
And with good reason. The idea that it’s good for your teeth has been generally debunked and, if anything, it’s a case of cycling flouride through the human body is a convenient way to dispose of what is basically the stuff that’s cleaned out of the chimineys of aluminium smelters and fertiliser plants. And no, actually most civilised places tap water does NOT contain flouride! https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/04/30/water-fluoridation-facts.aspx
If you can read that entire article and still think flouridation is a good thing I’d be surprised.
Except that Mercola is well-known to be a quack who also opposes immunization, mammography, and makes a whole bunch of other unsubstantiated, often dangerous claims. I’d take his views on fluoridation with a Gibraltar-sized grain of salt. https://www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/mercola.html
TBH Abel Undercity I could put up a dozen other sources, including the American Cancer Society, the Centres for Disease Control, Environmental International Journal, the International Association of Oral Medicine and Toxicology, Flouride Free New Zealand, the USA Safe Water Drinking Act, the Lancet.com, and many others. Mercola might be a quack but theres actually plenty of information to support him on this one. Enjoy your Gibralter sized grain of salt!
The kind and amount of minerals in water strongly depends on the source. The light and most heavy metals occur naturally and water percolating through the ground to become ground water leaches tiny amounts of those out. Depending on area, you might get comparatively height amounts of fluoride, sodium, magnesium, iron, …
With water from rivers, industrial waste may be a problem, though in first world countries that normally shouldn’t be a problem nowadays. But, wasn’t there an area in the US where the water supply was contaminated and no official wanted to go after the the company responsible?
In Germany there are (or were) legally sold mineral waters that wouldn’t have been legal as tap water, but were legal because it was supposed that you wouldn’t drink only that stuff and not all of your life.
Fluoride is actually good for your teeth to help remineralize your enamel.
Putting it in drinking water is frowned upon in most European countries. High-fluoride remineralizers are supposed to go in your mouth, stay there for a few minutes and NOT be ingested.
Health problems with drinking water usually have two sources: Somehow (leaky drains and leaky tap water lines) human or animal waste got into it and you get really ill really fast.
Or you have larger than normal amounts of heavy metals in them, which might make you ill with long exposure. Sources can be lines of different metals (some old lead lines in a house that has mostly copper lines for example, or brand new taps that give of nickel.
What most peopl notice is when the tap water is heavily clorinated. In first world countries, this usually happens after screening showed too many indicator organisms (i.e. somewhere waste leaked in) or when the source water is not ground water but river water.
Using bottled drinking water in a region that has a good tap water supply is drinking water that other people sorely miss at its source region.
Got to be careful with that spring water, especially in karst areas. Where there are lots of caves, you’re often just getting underground stream drainage, not real groundwater.
There was one place down in West Virginia we went caving, where the entrance drained a cow pasture, then followed a flowing stream passage for a half-mile or so to another entrance where someone had set up a pipe to collect water from the “spring”.
Malaya has some charm, which she doles out sparingly and with purpose. Not “charm to spare”, but witness her come-on to Joe: It worked, and it was surprising to see from her.
Malaya’s physically attractive. Given that and given Joe, I’m not really sure much charm was needed to make the direct “Hey, wanna fuck?” approach work.
I’m not assuming you’re an expert on the topic and it’s probably better to ask a qualified doctor, but would you happen to know if Tourette’s might possibly present as a compulsive, mirthless sort of chuckle-like spasm? You know, like when someone is sort of nose laughing to theirself, except there’s nothing amusing this person and it’s actually visibly upsetting them, because they can’t stop until they’ve exhaled all the air in their lungs and then kept going for a few moments after that? And also usually it includes this person compulsively shutting their eyes as tightly as possible?
Asking for a friend with permission, and my forum posts on this or similar topics tend to get ableist responses, and it seems a little too specific to Google. You don’t have to answer if you don’t want to, or anything. Doctors tend to look at me like I’ve just kicked their kids when I bring this sort of thing up, is all, so I’d rather avoid talking to one until I have more to go on.
Sorry, I regret posting this. People who live with certain conditions aren’t information kiosks, and I shouldn’t ask this sort of question based on a simple statement.
As someone with a disability: absolutely ask people things you don’t understand. I’ve seen people make heels of themselves and/or endanger me over and over because they didn’t understand what was physically possible from me, and never once has someone hurt me by wanting to know more. That goes double if you’re trying to help someone who figure out their own symptoms.
Having looked into Tourette’s a little myself, the short answer is: yes, that could *possibly* be Tourette’s. Vocal tics can be very variable and as can motor tics. Only a medical professional would be able to confirm with certainty.
No, no, Leslie. It’s TOTALLY reasonable to take precautions against Becky somehow having acquired contact with someone she met once in a grocery store.
Leslie is finally getting the hang of how Becky works. There will be shenanigans. No exceptions.
It comes pre-installed because it is vitally necessary to surviving until adulthood for a social species. Just think back on how stupid everyone was in high school, and then imagine how it would be if they weren’t constantly worried about how stupid they looked.
Discovered http://www.dumbingofage.com/ a couple of months ago and have finally caught up. I love it. It’s fascinating. A masterpiece. Favourite characters? Difficult to say, there are so many. It tends to vary depending on the storyline. Amber, Dorothy and Sarah but not exclusively. Unfavourites? Joe and Walky. (I’m ignoring adults like Becky’s dad.) So, what’s next? Patreon calls.
And thankyou for all the enjoyment and no thanks for all the timewasting when I should have been working. Time well wasted.
Oh, and if you read the Walkyverse that consists in 4 series and a short pregnancy comic, you will be really surprised. That is unless you have already done so.
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Frick!
C-C-C-Combo breaker!
Tap’s not gonna take any of your shit, anna.
It occurs to me, I have like zero idea of how old Leslie is suppose to be.
I wanna say 28 or 29.
You need a PhD to teach at a university right? So it’s unlikely she’s more than a couple of years away from 30 in either direction right?
Nope. I’ve had instructors who only had Bachelor’s degrees.
A Master’s is the formal minimum for a teaching position, though there shouldn’t be any legal limitation that would prevent a university from making exceptions based on their own preferences.
Since DoA dedicatedly bases its university off of Indiana University, we can skip over broader considerations of US universities and simply look at what
that university lists.
Looking at IU’s faculty hiring, they have a Master’s minimum for many positions and even allow tenure-track for such hires. However, looking at the current faculty of the Gender Studies department, I can’t find a single non-PHD in the lot.
Ergo, until Word of Willis says otherwise, the best assumption is that Leslie does in fact have a PHD.
Leslie got really lucky snagging that position. Teaching a gender studies course is pretty much the only application there is for a gender studies degree.
Entirely inaccurate. There are people that I know with phds in Gender Studies that are: working in communications and research for legal advocacy organizations, editors of special projects for Slate, running their own businesses, working for the department of justice, running graduate student support for full universities, etc. When I was at a master’s level (I have a PhD now and am a professor), I was hired to coordainte an LGBTQ rights poliitical advocacy group, ran communications for a transnational nonprofit, worked in a non-profit to support homeless kids who were homeless on their own, and worked as a career advisor to college students. There’s a lot of applications for gender studies degrees.
And… Not a single one of those actually needs, or even really uses, a Gender Studies degree.
But to be honest, most jobs don’t actually care what degree you have from college. My step-mother was an Oceanography Major working in the IT department of Dominion Power. Places will hire anyone with a degree.
My daughter is at IU and has been a TA since her second year. At that point, she had not earned enough credits for her MA. She has been teaching first year classes in her subject. I think that is pretty common at R1s across the country. Most people who earn a PhD probably have at least 3 years of teaching experience in this manner before they finish their program.
Most community colleges require a Master’s, but universities often have TAs with only Bachelor’s degrees teaching classes, especially introductory classes like ENG101. That said, a gender studies class? There aren’t usually enough sections to hand out to TAs, so I’m betting Leslie’s an assistant prof, which these days would almost certainly mean a Ph.D.
That was the path my own thoughts went down, as I wrote my previous post. Leslie didn’t seem at all like a TA (given her familiarized, confident, relaxed control over the class, as well as her lack of any references towards second parties involved with the course), and even outside of the gender studies department, most of IU’s hiring listings for assistant professors that I came across were PHD minimum. Add in the fact that IU lists quite a few faculty for the department, and narrow niche that the field covers, and any non-graduate degree seemed unlikely. Likewise, her familarity with the campus and control over the class suggests she’s not a [lower degree] substitute for the semester, either.
I’ve assumed Leslie is a doctoral student, which means (if it’s anything like my program in English was) she is at least 22. It’s an intro course, which often are what gets pushed off on grad students and adjuncts.
PhD student here. I taught as an adjunct for 3 years (at 24-27 yo) with an MA at an upper SUNY lib arts school before entering my PhD program. It wasn’t the norm, but I have another colleague in my current department who did similar @ UMass. Many R1s require advancement to candidacy (completion of master’s coursework + dissertation prospectus) before solo-instructing classes, but not all.
Do we have proof that Leslie is more than an adjunct? If she is on tenure-track, and entered PhD program @ 22, minimum age would be 27-28. If she’s an adjunct, she could just have an MA and be mid-20s as well. However, most likely is 27+.
IIRC, word of Willis is she’s 27-28ish with a Ph.D
Real talk, though, if she was an adjunct, she could also be a 40-something PhD holder. With the shrinking tenure lines and increasing reliance on casualized labor across the academy, adjuncting is no long about age, experience, or degree.
I always figured around thirty, but I guess a few years younger is possible. She’s got to have at least a Masters and doesn’t seem inexperienced at her job, so definitely over 25 at least.
I definitely pegged her for 30s, myself.
I believe Willis said she was in her late 20s, like 27 or 28 or so.
Yeah I Def thought she was like 40 haha but maybe this is my short packed knowledge coming through
Late twenties, early thirties?
Yup, we’re all scared for life.
Scared for life, of life, and by life.
Don’t worry, Becky.
Nothing ever changes.
I hate to sound like a cynical old man, but the saying that “the more things change, the more they stay the same” is very, very true.
I prefer, “High School Never Ends.”
Bowling For Soup, very insightful.
I remember back when I was in middle school, I was talking to this girl on AIM (we went to the same school but pretty much only talked on AIM), and I asked her if she had ever heard the phrase, “The more things change, the more they stay the same.”
Her reply was, “no, and that does not make any sense.”
Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose
^_^
Nothing. Nothing ever changes.
[Read in my lousy Ron Perlman impression]
I slept early yesterday and didn’t get in on the comments, but that big shiny eyed look Leslie had broke my heart :c Les honey please love yourself enough to start choosing people who treat you like you actually deserve, okay?
Did Bloomington outsource their water from Flint these days?
I was about to make a Flint comment.
But Flint’s water is doing better these days.
I’m trying very hard not to make any of the obvious and horrible Walkerton comments.
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walkerton_E._coli_outbreak)
Aww, Leslie misses her lamp (*wink*).
Oh right, Robin stole it! Thanks for the hint.
Or should I say
“aide”“you”, as Robin calls it.Ha! I remember that now!
Whoa it’s been a really long time since we saw Robin. Hope she’s better.
She’s still in that parking lot without pants waiting for her gal pal lesbian to come back.
I’m sad that every storyline since then hasn’t ended with a panel of her standing there.
Why would you drink water straight from the tap anyways? It usually tastes weird.
Why wouldn’t you?
Okay, there are lots of reasons why you wouldn’t, I live in Michigan, I know. But if you live in an area where the water supply is safe– *shrug.* I usually drink tap water. I do live in the same area I grew up in, which helps; I couldn’t drink the tap water at my college because it tasted weird and I was allergic. But most city water I find fine.
https://mytapscore.com/blogs/tips-for-taps/metal-leaching-in-pipes-the-science-behind-lead-in-water
I’ve read in another article that chloramine (a relatively new city-water disinfectant) can leach enough lead out of your faucets to form visible pits.
Faucets don’t have lead in them. Lead is poisonous.
Old water supply pipes can contain lead. Some old solder used to join copper pipes together also contains lead. (Modern pipe solder is lead-free.)
if you still have lead in faucets, you should replace them. The leads comes out because it’s more water solvable then other metals are (yes, metals which are kept in water give off tiny amounts of ions. Always. More so, if the ph is lower or if you have several metal in the same water: the one with the lower redox potential is going to give up more ions and the one with the higher less. That’s why having a lead line between copper lines is a bad idea.)
Not that you’re wrong about the need to replace them, but…
“The American Water Works Association conducted a national survey to estimate the cost of replacing lead service lines. The average cost per replacement was $3200, with a range of $750 to $16000.” (circa 2004)
(https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2509614/)
Short version: the lead industry lobbied to keep using lead products, primarily paint and pipe, right up until it was outlawed in 1986. So there’s still quite a bit of it around
The US really got bamboozled on this one, afaik this stopped being a thing in other countries.
I believe a common location is the run from the street to the house, which tends to be in place for a long time and is largely invisible.
You Americans and you’re weird sense of tap water hygiene ^^. To be fair, GB and the South of Europe ain’t a lot better. But we Northern Europe countrys sure have great tasting tap water which is also safe. And we have bubbly water. Why don’t you guys have bubbly water?
You mean bubbly water from the tap? That would be awesome.
Most towns out in the sticks in Texas have at least one store with a water fill-up station, and they get a LOT of use. We finally got running water just to the bath about a year and a half ago. However, we continue using the refillable 5 gallons for anything that isn’t cooking because it doesn’t taste like garbage. Likewise, I lived in a nearby city for around 7 years and never adapted to the water. I’d get stomach aches from drinking tap or getting soda at restaurants (not that that stopped me). For bottled water, I check the source first because there’s a few common ones (Keller, TX, for one) that really mess me up.
As a kid, we’d bring empty milk gallons to my grandmother’s and fill up on her well water because it tasted so much better. Running the tap until it stopped smelling like rotten eggs always sucked when you couldn’t smell half the time.
I always do. It’s simple and direct. And very cheap. And I live in a country where the tap water is safe to drink. Why would I not?
I always use my filter. Honestly, I suspect a big part of the benefit is it’s in my fridge, so the water’s just colder than I get from the tap, anyhow, but it does seem to influence the flavor a bit.
Depends where you are. Even just in different parts of the UK I’ve found that tap water varies quite a lot in taste.
This is VERY true. The town I live in has TERRIBLE water, always tastes metallic and chemical-y, but a town 10 minutes away is fine, I drink their tap water all the time.
Yeah, it’s really variable around here too. Seems like every building has a different flavour… Which actually might be the case, since our water changed a lot when they replaced the pipes – it tasted like plastic for years :/ although they did say it was still safe to drink. It’s back to being fairly neutral now – much better than the gross taste at one friend’s house.
I almost always drink tap water, bottled water tastes a bit weird to me.
I always drink tap water.
Of course, it depends on where you are, whether the tap water is safe, chlorine free, and how it tastes.
I’ve been to places in Scandinavia where the tap water is delicious.
The FDA regulates bottled water, and the EPA regulates tap water. Depending on state-to-state regulations, tap water can actually be more heavily regulated than bottled, though Flint in my home state of MI puts paid to the notion of that always being a useful metric. On average though, tap is just as regulated as bottled, so really the only advantage to bottled water is… you get to make another empty plastic bottle, I guess..?
Flint specifically occurred because the government turned over the water to private businesses, then stopped enforcing regulations.
The safety controls tend to be pretty good when they’re actually enforced. A small distinction, but definitely worth making.
Tap water is more heavily regulated than bottled water, and doesn’t fill the oceans and landfills with plastic bottles.
Enforcement by regulators is the key, and regulatory agencies are under attack by…. someone.
depends strongly on where you live. some places have grest tap water. also here in Germany tap water is regulated stricter than bottled water so
It depends very much where you live and the source for that tap water. Tap water in my house is fine, so I don’t mind drinking it if the filter is out, but I can’t drink tap water when I visit my cousin up north because his tap water is well water and I have a heart condition, so it’s bottled all the way.
Over here in NYC, we apparently have amazing tap water thanks to Niagara or something, but if you’re in an area where the pipes haven’t been replaced in over 50 years, it’ll come out literally brown. I’m guessing the brown has to do with rusty old pipes or something, but I’m no pipe expert and I’m not gonna attempt to taste it to find out. Either way, we filter our tap water now (I mean, when it doesn’t come out brown anyway), and boy there’s a noticeable taste difference.
When it’s comes out brown, it’s not legal in Germany. Don’t know about the US, though. Over here, it’d be the landlord’s job to find out the source and remove it.
Adulthood has so much “Ah dang!” in it, amirite?
I could do with a little less “Ah dang!”, to be honest.
I don’t remember enough of this story thread to recall why she would care what Mindy thinks. Aside from being the girl with an unrequited crush/slash roommate of Anna, isn’t Mindy just sort of some random person?
She lied to Mindy and feels guilty about it. It was a “white” lie — she said that she didn’t want to date Mindy “because I’m not ready” when in fact she was quite ready to move on Anna — told to avoid hurting Mindy’s feelings in the moment. But she is afraid that when it gets revealed (as, we know, it must, because she’s binking Mindy’s flatmate) Mindy will be hurt and maybe angry.
Thank you for the recap. I’d forgotten most of this.
It has been a year and a half.
I think at her date with Mindy she really didn’t think she was ready for anything, and then Anna happened, but yeah it doesn’t look nice.
Unrelated question: Is that a poster of Nicolas Cage?
You know what, as much as I like what the poster is actually of, it is now a picture of Nicolas Cage.
It’s General Leia.
One of Nicolas Cage’s best roles.
It’s very rare that I wish we had upvotes, but…
Given that scene of Leia flying through space in the first of the new films, they may as well have given her a flaming skull head and had Nicholas Cage play her. Honestly, them fully embracing the film’s more absurd elements would have made it a fair bit better of a film than it was.
..similarly, having Carrie Fisher play Ghost Rider with force powers probably woulda made that film better, as well.
*adds this to the list of awesome things we’ll never see, right below “Good Omens” with Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman both working on the movie, with Robin Williams starring opposite David Tennant*
what did becky mean in the fourth panel?
Something related to shame of sexuality in a subtle commentary?
Becky was thinking Leslie was hiding the fact she was sleeping with Anna because she was embarrassed. Then Leslie said she was being discrete to protect Mindy’s feelings. So, Becky thought it wasn’t about shame. But it totally is.
wait i’m confused was Leslie ever with Mindy?
They had an unsuccessful date. Leslie bailed before dinner was over.
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-7/04-the-do-list/dating/
But remember, the date wasn’t Leslie’s idea. It was an impulse move by Mindy.
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-7/04-the-do-list/lovesleuth/
I am not a lesbian so do not relate to that last panel.
However, the way the panel is portrayed, I feel I can relate to it on some level.
This insights are as painful as the insights from Bloodborne and the insights from the Amazing World of Gumball.
Wow, humanity needs to solve many self made problems.
Soooo is it just me or does the Leia poster somehow look sadder than it did two comics ago. It’s gaining sentience and is expressing displeasure that Becky is learning that shame….shame never changes.
It’s going to be the DoA Roadblock poster?
If Becky brings a girl home, will Leia be more approving, or less because it’s literally on the couch of someone she’s crashing with in a one bedroom apartment?
oh, poor Becky. That bites.
And yeaaaaah – whether or not it was a lie or Leslie was genuinely unsure if her being ready was the problem but it’s gonna be awkward with Mindy anyways.
Best option here is to just be come clean with Mindy the next time Leslie sees her. One really are awkward confrontation should be less of a pain then being this paranoid about keeping secrets. Also it’s not like Mindy will think less of Leslie just because she’s not her type, she will however think less of her for not being upfront about it.
Tangled webs we weave and all that jazz. Best to pull that bandaid off early.
Not gonna lie – Anna insulting the water in the background is HILARIOUS!
I start to wonder if she has tourettes or something. Her constant insulting of everyone seems less like Mike’s calculated assholery and more like soemthing that just happens.
Is that remark about the tap water the nicest thing we’ve ever heard out of her?
Initially she reminded me of Malaya – not so much calculated dickery as just not caring to think through her words and blurting whatever comes to mind. Which is usually dickish.
Does anyone know if tap water is on average bad for your teeth?
Unless you live in an area that doesn’t put fluoride in the water, it’s mildly good for your teeth. Probably very very mildly.
In most civilised places tap-water contains fluoride, which is very slightly good for your teeth after they have formed, but really quite good for them while they are forming. As for bottled water, most is just the local tapwater, perhaps filtered. So that’s fine. Other bottled water is actually taken from springs or bores, so what it contains and whether it is good for any bits of you is highly variable and dependent on the geology or the source.
I’m not sure this is so (the “Most civilized places tap water contains fluoride” part!). According to wikipedia, a good 97% of Europe does not Fluoridate their water supplies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoridation_by_country
And with good reason. The idea that it’s good for your teeth has been generally debunked and, if anything, it’s a case of cycling flouride through the human body is a convenient way to dispose of what is basically the stuff that’s cleaned out of the chimineys of aluminium smelters and fertiliser plants. And no, actually most civilised places tap water does NOT contain flouride!
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/04/30/water-fluoridation-facts.aspx
If you can read that entire article and still think flouridation is a good thing I’d be surprised.
Except that Mercola is well-known to be a quack who also opposes immunization, mammography, and makes a whole bunch of other unsubstantiated, often dangerous claims. I’d take his views on fluoridation with a Gibraltar-sized grain of salt. https://www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/mercola.html
TBH Abel Undercity I could put up a dozen other sources, including the American Cancer Society, the Centres for Disease Control, Environmental International Journal, the International Association of Oral Medicine and Toxicology, Flouride Free New Zealand, the USA Safe Water Drinking Act, the Lancet.com, and many others. Mercola might be a quack but theres actually plenty of information to support him on this one. Enjoy your Gibralter sized grain of salt!
Do they contain natural fluoride?
The kind and amount of minerals in water strongly depends on the source. The light and most heavy metals occur naturally and water percolating through the ground to become ground water leaches tiny amounts of those out. Depending on area, you might get comparatively height amounts of fluoride, sodium, magnesium, iron, …
With water from rivers, industrial waste may be a problem, though in first world countries that normally shouldn’t be a problem nowadays. But, wasn’t there an area in the US where the water supply was contaminated and no official wanted to go after the the company responsible?
In Germany there are (or were) legally sold mineral waters that wouldn’t have been legal as tap water, but were legal because it was supposed that you wouldn’t drink only that stuff and not all of your life.
Fluoride is actually good for your teeth to help remineralize your enamel.
Putting it in drinking water is frowned upon in most European countries. High-fluoride remineralizers are supposed to go in your mouth, stay there for a few minutes and NOT be ingested.
Health problems with drinking water usually have two sources: Somehow (leaky drains and leaky tap water lines) human or animal waste got into it and you get really ill really fast.
Or you have larger than normal amounts of heavy metals in them, which might make you ill with long exposure. Sources can be lines of different metals (some old lead lines in a house that has mostly copper lines for example, or brand new taps that give of nickel.
What most peopl notice is when the tap water is heavily clorinated. In first world countries, this usually happens after screening showed too many indicator organisms (i.e. somewhere waste leaked in) or when the source water is not ground water but river water.
Using bottled drinking water in a region that has a good tap water supply is drinking water that other people sorely miss at its source region.
Got to be careful with that spring water, especially in karst areas. Where there are lots of caves, you’re often just getting underground stream drainage, not real groundwater.
There was one place down in West Virginia we went caving, where the entrance drained a cow pasture, then followed a flowing stream passage for a half-mile or so to another entrance where someone had set up a pipe to collect water from the “spring”.
Malaya has some charm, which she doles out sparingly and with purpose. Not “charm to spare”, but witness her come-on to Joe: It worked, and it was surprising to see from her.
I don’t know if Anna has any.
Malaya’s physically attractive. Given that and given Joe, I’m not really sure much charm was needed to make the direct “Hey, wanna fuck?” approach work.
As someone with tourette’s that is not how it presents at all.
Sorry about that. I REALLY don’t know what I’m talking about here.
I’m not assuming you’re an expert on the topic and it’s probably better to ask a qualified doctor, but would you happen to know if Tourette’s might possibly present as a compulsive, mirthless sort of chuckle-like spasm? You know, like when someone is sort of nose laughing to theirself, except there’s nothing amusing this person and it’s actually visibly upsetting them, because they can’t stop until they’ve exhaled all the air in their lungs and then kept going for a few moments after that? And also usually it includes this person compulsively shutting their eyes as tightly as possible?
Asking for a friend with permission, and my forum posts on this or similar topics tend to get ableist responses, and it seems a little too specific to Google. You don’t have to answer if you don’t want to, or anything. Doctors tend to look at me like I’ve just kicked their kids when I bring this sort of thing up, is all, so I’d rather avoid talking to one until I have more to go on.
Sorry, I regret posting this. People who live with certain conditions aren’t information kiosks, and I shouldn’t ask this sort of question based on a simple statement.
As someone with a disability: absolutely ask people things you don’t understand. I’ve seen people make heels of themselves and/or endanger me over and over because they didn’t understand what was physically possible from me, and never once has someone hurt me by wanting to know more. That goes double if you’re trying to help someone who figure out their own symptoms.
Having looked into Tourette’s a little myself, the short answer is: yes, that could *possibly* be Tourette’s. Vocal tics can be very variable and as can motor tics. Only a medical professional would be able to confirm with certainty.
I dunno. I’m getting about a one quarter Brun vibe.
So… is there ANY reason to believe Anna has not already told Mindy?
Because if she had she’d have already dropped that on Leslie with all the subtlety of a dump truck.
I’d tap that.
/badump tssshh
…
heh, that was pretty funny
No, no, Leslie. It’s TOTALLY reasonable to take precautions against Becky somehow having acquired contact with someone she met once in a grocery store.
Leslie is finally getting the hang of how Becky works. There will be shenanigans. No exceptions.
Yes, Becky, lesbians still suffer from the human condition.
But hopefully Becky will never have to feel social shame or embarrassment about being a lesbian.
Ingrained social shame never goes away, Becky. You’ll learn that when you find something to do wrong about which you’re ashamed!
Do characters also get tagged when mentioned by another character? How have I only just noticed that?
Ah no I’m just stupid
Then you’re clearly in the right place!
Am I missing something? I only see tags for the three characters who are in the comic. Was Mindy originally tagged and then the tag removed?
testing formattingNo spoiler tag, huh?
Willis, you’d better give Mindy some love.
Why does shame have to come pre-installed on every human brain, anyway? Anybody know a way to delete it from my files?
It comes pre-installed because it is vitally necessary to surviving until adulthood for a social species. Just think back on how stupid everyone was in high school, and then imagine how it would be if they weren’t constantly worried about how stupid they looked.
Faz has no shame.
And what are his chances of surviving to adulthood?
Well it looks like we were both right.
1. She WAS worried about Mindy.
2. It WAS the awkwardness of having casual sex around a teen.
C’mon Anna. I’m sure Leslie’s tap-dancing is up there with the best.
Discovered http://www.dumbingofage.com/ a couple of months ago and have finally caught up. I love it. It’s fascinating. A masterpiece. Favourite characters? Difficult to say, there are so many. It tends to vary depending on the storyline. Amber, Dorothy and Sarah but not exclusively. Unfavourites? Joe and Walky. (I’m ignoring adults like Becky’s dad.) So, what’s next? Patreon calls.
And thankyou for all the enjoyment and no thanks for all the timewasting when I should have been working. Time well wasted.
Oh, and if you read the Walkyverse that consists in 4 series and a short pregnancy comic, you will be really surprised. That is unless you have already done so.