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by David M Willis on August 21, 2021 at 12:01 am
  • 05 – As Long As It's Free
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  1. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    August 21, 2021 at 12:02 am | #

    “hey Wonderbread, hope ya like things ah fished outta the trash”

    • Linkman0596
      Linkman0596
      August 21, 2021 at 12:34 am | #

      “I mean, i assume that’s why you seem ta like me”

      • Clif
        Clif
        August 21, 2021 at 1:23 am | #

        And now I’ve given it to you, I own you.

        • Harmony
          Harmony
          August 21, 2021 at 3:17 pm | #

          “See, ‘least I own up ta my manipulatin’.”

  2. Yumi
    Yumi
    August 21, 2021 at 12:03 am | #

    MY HEART

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      August 21, 2021 at 12:05 am | #

      Call an AWWWmbulance!

    • Prince Mech
      Prince Mech
      August 21, 2021 at 1:09 am | #

      MINE TOO

  3. Schpoonman
    Schpoonman
    August 21, 2021 at 12:04 am | #

    Oh mY GOOOOOD.

  4. Sirksome
    Sirksome
    August 21, 2021 at 12:04 am | #

    I mean that hat’s decent but it’s never gonna be blue hat. It’s not even close.

    • Clif
      Clif
      August 21, 2021 at 1:40 am | #

      But it came from Sal and so Danny will treasure it forever on account of Danny not being the brightest bulb in the pack.

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        August 21, 2021 at 9:52 am | #

        No, but sometimes he’s the sharpest!

        • Demoted Oblivious
          Demoted Oblivious
          August 21, 2021 at 1:56 pm | #

          Yes… high praise, being the sharpest marshmallow in the bag.

  5. Nono
    Nono
    August 21, 2021 at 12:06 am | #

    Okay, over/under on whether or not the hat is stolen.

    • Thag Simmons
      Thag Simmons
      August 21, 2021 at 12:08 am | #

      I don’t think post-robbery Sal is into Crimes.

    • plasticwrap
      plasticwrap
      August 21, 2021 at 12:15 am | #

      More like what’re the odds she’ll chicken out and find a way to give that to Danny without actually personally giving it to him.

      • Steamweed
        Steamweed
        August 21, 2021 at 11:00 am | #

        Sal’s gonna sneak up behind him, put it on him, and vanish away like the ninja she is. By the time he notices it, he’ll have been wearing it for a week.

        • Rabisch
          Rabisch
          August 21, 2021 at 11:34 am | #

          This seems incredibly possible.

          • Demoted Oblivious
            Demoted Oblivious
            August 21, 2021 at 1:58 pm | #

            It will be witnessed by one person, Ms Billingsworth, further cementing her claim that Sal is Amazi-Girl.

    • Suitora
      Suitora
      August 21, 2021 at 12:22 am | #

      She hasn’t stolen anything. She was lying about it because Sal has a hard time being vulnerable. Even if she used the “I stole it” line, it would mean that she thought of him. And she has a hard time admitting she’s in love with Danny to herself, much else other people. She thinks she deserves a guy like Asher, after all.

      • Demoted Oblivious
        Demoted Oblivious
        August 21, 2021 at 1:59 pm | #

        It could be love, romantic or sexual, or she could just be feeling good to have a friend. I’m guessing Sal’s been lonely with Malaya distracting Marcie.

  6. powerpowerpow
    powerpowerpow
    August 21, 2021 at 12:06 am | #

    Whether this is going to go very good or very bad, I don’t think my heart can handle having to find out over the course of a week.

    • Demoted Oblivious
      Demoted Oblivious
      August 21, 2021 at 2:00 pm | #

      “over the course of a week”

      Oh ho HOO.. Aren’t we being quite the optimist today!

  7. Spencer
    Spencer
    August 21, 2021 at 12:07 am | #

    This entire chapter has been about characters who used to have old ships getting into more interesting ones.

  8. Meagan
    Meagan
    August 21, 2021 at 12:07 am | #

    So I have a question. I feel like I heard/read somewhere that Willis had said he is not going to pair any of the characters with people they had been paired with before in the other ‘verse. Did I make that up? Because if it’s true then this all feels very hollow.

    • Thag Simmons
      Thag Simmons
      August 21, 2021 at 12:10 am | #

      I think the point was more that he wasn’t going to retread the Walkyverse pairings unless he felt he could do new things with them, not that he was opposed to revisiting those pairings on principle. Ruth/Billie, Walky/Dorothy and Sal/Jason all happened in both the Walkyverse and the Dumbiverse, and all of them happened fairly early on.

      • Nono
        Nono
        August 21, 2021 at 12:15 am | #

        I don’t think it’s an early on thing, Sal/Jason was a significant length of the Walkyverse and even stretched into the paid strips. In fact it was probably the last ship to properly take off in IW!, even later than Joe/Rachel.

        • Thag Simmons
          Thag Simmons
          August 21, 2021 at 12:17 am | #

          Sal/Jason happened early on in Dumbing of Age was my point. This wasn’t like a thing Willis said and then changed his mind about, it’s just never been the case that Walkyverse pairings aren’t allowed in Dumbing of Age.

    • Yumi
      Yumi
      August 21, 2021 at 12:10 am | #

      My understanding of that was that it came up “unless they could find something new to do with the pairing.” I think we’ve already seen this with some couples in the strip.

      • Thag Simmons
        Thag Simmons
        August 21, 2021 at 12:14 am | #

        It’s happened a lot, fairly early on too. Ruth/Billie, Walky/Dorothy, Sal/Jason, Mandy/Grace/Sierra, there’s been a fair few walkyverse reduxes.

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      August 21, 2021 at 12:16 am | #

      He did say that, but with the caveat that he still might if he could think of a new angle, hence why Robin and Leslie and Ruth and Billie could be a thing. Danny and Sal broke up very early on in the Walkyverse and so this is more of a chance to see them developing what could turn into something romantic.

      • Regalli
        Regalli
        August 21, 2021 at 12:33 am | #

        Yeah, Walkyverse Danny/Sal started with a Sal who hadn’t yet become Batman and a Danny who was kind of a dick. When Post-Angstening Sal reached out to Danny, she still had him on a pedestal as part of the normal life she no longer had, and would sometimes try and force some of her cheerful wacky old persona because it was what he knew from her.

        This Danny’s had character development before he and Sal really started bonding, and since this Sal became a cool biker chick before college, he wouldn’t expect any different. Walkyverse Danny/Sal was supposed to be endgame before Billie waltzed into the plot and became a character, but Dumbingverse Danny/Sal seems to have healthier foundations for a longterm relationship.

    • DailyBrad
      DailyBrad
      August 21, 2021 at 12:16 am | #

      I mean, Danny/Billie was walkyverse endgame, anyway, so I feel like this would still be fine even if he rigidly held to that.

      Like, he had Mike, Blaine, and Ross die after previously having hesitation about what he did with Walkyverse Ruth or others who died, so nothing is really set in stone.

    • Spencer
      Spencer
      August 21, 2021 at 12:31 am | #

      Well one, it’s hypothetically endless serialized fiction and if it runs long enough than any viable pairing could happen. No one saw Ruth/Jason coming, that’s for sure.

      The other more important bit is that it’s less that the Walkyverse ships are off-limits and more that if the Walkyverse ships depict these characters as ideally as that pairing can depict them, then there’s no real point in going over that again. Sal disappeared from Danny’s life and he moved and got with Billie, so we don’t actually know what Danny and Sal actually seriously together would be like. You’re never gonna see Joe/Rachel again, for example, not only because both of them are different characters here with different narrative goals, but because Joe/Rachel was explored to its limits by the time of Shortpacked’s conclusion. Conversely we are absolutely gearing up for a romance narrative about Joe and Joyce even though that was explored in the Walkyverse, and Joe is even kind of hitting the same beats where Joyce inspires in him feelings he doesn’t know how to deal with after he begins to see her in a new light beyond “fundie weirdo”, but that still manifests differently here because everyone reading It’s Walky! knew from the get-go Joe would never be with Joyce because Walky’s name was the danged title, and that being up in the air means a go at that relationship has different goals and expectations.

      Ruth/Billie was a bit of a big deal in the Walkyverse, except there’s no way to call that a repeat here in DoA because both of them are such different characters. Meanwhile Walky/Dorothy was explored on much the same level as Danny/Sal was, and at the moment in the Walkyverse reruns Dorothy is trying to beat Walky to death with her bare hands. Life comes at you funny sometimes.

      • Thag Simmons
        Thag Simmons
        August 21, 2021 at 12:34 am | #

        “No one saw Ruth/Jason coming, that’s for sure.”

        I would disagree with this. Once Ruth and Jason started interacting during the date, a lot of people started to figure it out.

        • Yumi
          Yumi
          August 21, 2021 at 12:48 am | #

          I feel like that’s a bit…late for what Spencer is talking about.

          • Thag Simmons
            Thag Simmons
            August 21, 2021 at 8:39 am | #

            Maybe. But the reason I’d say nobody saw it coming prior to Jason’s new look is because nobody expected him to be an important character again and he had minimal connections to the non-Walkerton members of the cast

        • Demoted Oblivious
          Demoted Oblivious
          August 21, 2021 at 2:09 pm | #

          No one saw the Americans being willing to nuke Japan, but once they hit Nagasaki, a lot of people started to figure it out.

          If someone wants to claim they were actually shipping Ruth and Jason before their first interaction or even post-skip before it actually became a thing, I’m going to call [citation needed].

          I like you Thag, but I’m pretty sure anyone claiming they saw it coming, would have to have violated causality.

      • Regalli
        Regalli
        August 21, 2021 at 12:39 am | #

        Ruth/Billie in the Walkyverse was also explored primarily/most explicitly in the Roomies Redux strips, as I recall, which were written and published after Ruth’s death there. They were very different characters with a different dynamic here, but it was also a chance to explore their relationship in realtime.

        Oh, also, after Shortpacked ended and Dumbingverse Dina/Becky became a thing, Willis posted some art and declared it canon of Walkyverse Becky and Dina together against the Soggies. When we saw Walkyverse characters again in an April Fools strip in 2017 or so, Becky was with the Shortpacked universe-hopping squad looking for anti-Soggie weapons, so yeah, that relationship is definitely Walkyverse canon too, the rules just don’t apply since they only met AFTER the Walkyverse ended.

    • Kammon
      Kammon
      August 21, 2021 at 5:11 am | #

      Sal/Danny happened in Roomies, yes; but so early on that their characters were barely established (and Sal ended up becoming someone so completely different to her initial incarnation that she might well have been an entirely different character).

      So I’d make an argument that whilst a ‘Danny’ and ‘Sal’ once dated in a different comic, these two characters as they are now depicted never dated.

    • Keulen
      Keulen
      August 21, 2021 at 5:58 am | #

      I can’t recall if he said that, but I’m pretty sure Willis at some point said he wasn’t gonna have anyone die in this comic, and then he went and killed off Mike. So even if he did say that maybe we shouldn’t assume it’s still accurate anymore.

      • Regalli
        Regalli
        August 21, 2021 at 4:28 pm | #

        The ‘people won’t die’ was never absolute – the issue was that, like breaking a bone (even Joyce spraining her wrist put her in the brace for ages,) the status quo change of ‘grieving’ would last the rest of the comic without a timeskip, but even then they made occasional jokes that like, Tony could die, because Tony was too minor a character to derail things with grief. (‘Who’s Tony?’ Yeah, exactly. If he died offscreen over the break due to ridiculous shenanigans with murderous llamas invading the football field during a game, it would still have no impact on the story whatsoever.)

        But yeah, the rules change as the story needs them, especially when, say, a storyline’s been inching towards ‘kill off the Alliance of Evil Dads so they can no longer escalate and get some Becky angst in’ and that’d probably require a timeskip ANYWAY. (Also neatly skipping the inevitable Drama of Thanksgiving and winter break that would have split up the cast.) I distinctly recall that when Blaine and Faz first showed up, Willis said Blaine wasn’t Faz’s bio-dad, but by the time the Faz is Great storyline ran they’d forgotten saying that (I can’t find the quote but remember hearing they had admitted to that) and evidently found it more interesting and a better story angle for Faz to be in all likelihood Amber’s half-brother… and also fear ending up like Blaine, but Amber is the person who shows him he doesn’t have to be. While also making it extra clear that yes, Blaine is in fact THAT MUCH human garbage. (The hints that Yuri was a teenager when Faz was born in conjunction with the way his arc’s gone are the kind of thing you don’t casually drop as a red herring, not for a storyline that’s only an occasional drop-in on Amber’s plot. So unfortunately, I assume Blaine was a sex predator in addition to an abusive fuckstain, mob stooge, and half-rate supervillain whose only trick was ‘try and kidnap Amber’s friends’.)

        The relationships one has always been more malleable than others because by now, most characters have very different dynamics than they had in the Walkyverse, and many started diverging from the start. (Walkyverse Joyce and Dorothy hate each other, as do that Joyce and Sal.) But I still wouldn’t hold my breath to see Walky/Joyce as a canon ship again because their dynamic as friends is close enough to the Joyce and Walky! one that there’s not much new ground to tread. Same reason, I suspect, why Amber/Mike was never actually readdressed – even adding AG into the mix, the most that relationship could work would’ve been pretty close to their dynamic in Shortpacked all over again. By comparison, Walky/Dorothy and Joe/Joyce were only explored as actual relationships as opposed to crushes briefly in an AU before it intersected with the plot, Ruth/Billie was explored largely via flashback (and had a different dynamic due to that Ruth being Billie’s childhood babysitter), and Danny/Sal’s dynamic is so different here than it was there that it won’t go down the same lines if it does become a thing there. (Also, it’s been SO MUCH LONGER since Willis wrote or thought of them as a romantic couple than Amber/Mike or even Joyce/Walky, so they’ve probably had the space to reassess that relationship as well.) If there’s a new spin on it, or potential that wasn’t explored, it’s more likely to have a chance.

  9. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    August 21, 2021 at 12:07 am | #

    CUTE

    • Rabisch
      Rabisch
      August 21, 2021 at 2:58 am | #

      AGREED.

  10. Sirksome
    Sirksome
    August 21, 2021 at 12:10 am | #

    I mean if I was Sal I probably wouldn’t want to meet Danny at his dorm either. The room probably stinks of Joe scent and Danny has become nose blind to it.

  11. Rainhat
    Rainhat
    August 21, 2021 at 12:13 am | #

    D’aww.

  12. Wagstaff
    Wagstaff
    August 21, 2021 at 12:14 am | #

    Awe, that’s really sweet of you Sal!

    But seriously, if you’ve never seen it get that dark by 4 p.m. you’ve obviously never seen what the California wildfires can do.

    • Clif
      Clif
      August 21, 2021 at 2:03 am | #

      Something I hope remains true.

  13. Shitbird
    Shitbird
    August 21, 2021 at 12:15 am | #

    This makes me so happy

  14. Imogen
    Imogen
    August 21, 2021 at 12:17 am | #

    This is so cute and gay

    • Wagstaff
      Wagstaff
      August 21, 2021 at 12:19 am | #

      ……gay?

    • Thag Simmons
      Thag Simmons
      August 21, 2021 at 12:22 am | #

      This doesn’t really fit either definition of gay that I’m familiar with.

      • Wagstaff
        Wagstaff
        August 21, 2021 at 12:23 am | #

        Wait a minute, what if they’re using the very old definition, meaning “happy”?

        • Thag Simmons
          Thag Simmons
          August 21, 2021 at 12:40 am | #

          There’s a reason I said “doesn’t fit either”

          This is sweet and cute but it’s not what I’d call happy.

      • Yumi
        Yumi
        August 21, 2021 at 12:31 am | #

        The teens are calling everything gay again, but in a positive way this time.

        • Imogen
          Imogen
          August 21, 2021 at 12:33 am | #

          Sometimes I just call cute romantic things gay because “gay” is the word I most often use in my own relationships for different reasons. But also, Danny is bisexual, so this is all quite gay. ^.^

          • Yumi
            Yumi
            August 21, 2021 at 12:46 am | #

            Oh yeah, from the “everything,” romantic things, regardless of orientation, are the most likely to be called “gay” from what I’ve seen.

  15. BBCC
    BBCC
    August 21, 2021 at 12:18 am | #

    AWWWWWWWWWWW.

    Find him and kiss him you fool!

  16. jupiterror
    jupiterror
    August 21, 2021 at 12:25 am | #

    cute moment

  17. Kyrik Michalowski
    Kyrik Michalowski
    August 21, 2021 at 12:45 am | #

    Oh Sal, I hope you can give Danny his hat in person and not through some third party. And I hope you can accept Danny doing nice things for you.

    I look forward to you and Danny going on your first date sometime in 2025.

  18. Pizzawiz
    Pizzawiz
    August 21, 2021 at 12:47 am | #

    This is the content I live for

  19. Clif
    Clif
    August 21, 2021 at 1:22 am | #

    Joe is the first reason that pops into mind, but I wonder.

  20. Judas Peckerwood
    Judas Peckerwood
    August 21, 2021 at 1:36 am | #

    Just more evidence that Willis is a storytelling genius. As if you needed it.

  21. Slartibeast Button, BIA
    Slartibeast Button, BIA
    August 21, 2021 at 1:43 am | #

    But if he gets the new hat, won’t the old hat inevitably show up at the worst possible moment, leading to incredible conflict and angst?

    • Clif
      Clif
      August 21, 2021 at 2:00 am | #

      Yes. He can never let the two hats meet.

    • Spencer
      Spencer
      August 21, 2021 at 8:17 am | #

      It’s his old hat’s quantum duplicate.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      August 21, 2021 at 9:38 am | #

      Plot twist: this is his old hat. After it blew away, someone found it and donated it to a charity shop, where Sal bought it.

      Unless that ‘Danny’s hat’ bonus strip ends with it blowing into a wood chipper, or something.

    • InTheory
      InTheory
      August 21, 2021 at 2:49 pm | #

      Or the story point down the road that marks the end of their relationship.

  22. Bagge
    Bagge
    August 21, 2021 at 1:49 am | #

    D’awwww

  23. Lingo
    Lingo
    August 21, 2021 at 1:56 am | #

    BUT THE HAT CAME BACK
    THE VERY NEXT DAY BOOK
    THE HAT CAME BACK
    AND NOW HE HAS A LOOK

    • Lingo
      Lingo
      August 21, 2021 at 1:56 am | #

      …”And now it has her shook”?
      meh

    • Geneseepaws
      Geneseepaws
      August 21, 2021 at 2:49 pm | #

      We thought it was goner, now it’s back this way,
      But the Hat came back, it just couldn’t stay away.

  24. Mancuso
    Mancuso
    August 21, 2021 at 2:01 am | #

    How close are stores to this campus and/or how fast does e-commerce work in this universe.

    • HMRC4EVR
      HMRC4EVR
      August 21, 2021 at 7:29 am | #

      I’m betting in many cases same/next day due to the proximity of stores generally around a college campus. College kids probably have more disposable income nowadays and perhaps ‘I want it now’ gratification mindset so local business would want to take advantage of that.

      This is all just guesswork on my part. When I was in college it was pre-internet. The big place you went to for anything was a Phar-Mor (kids, ask your parents!) and it was a 5-10 minutes bike ride depending where on campus you were.

      Hell, we were still using microfiche readers in the library alongside some Apple IIs (I think).

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      August 21, 2021 at 9:49 am | #

      The comic doesn’t deviate that much from reality, just look up IU Bloomington on Google Maps. (The biggest differences are Galasso’s for Mother Bear’s, and that Robin’s apartment building is an office building in real life.)

      There’s a good-size mall with a Target a stone’s throw east of campus. The characters even went there before on-screen.

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      August 21, 2021 at 11:55 am | #

      She also could have bought it for him over the break.

  25. BenRG
    BenRG
    August 21, 2021 at 2:30 am | #

    Well, at least Sal has at last admitted it to herself!

  26. Rabisch
    Rabisch
    August 21, 2021 at 2:49 am | #

    This is really sweet and romantic ♡. Let’s hope our shy Sal finds the strength to give that hat to Danny. I can see her holding that hat in her pocket for months before this happens. Danny will be so happy and surprised.

  27. Eldritchy
    Eldritchy
    August 21, 2021 at 4:59 am | #

    Anyone else thinks of Park and Recs April and Andy when imagining Sal and Danny dating? The whole “Someone will die…” “…of fun!” dynamic?

    • Eldritchy
      Eldritchy
      August 21, 2021 at 5:25 am | #

      Though on second thought they feel closer to B99’s Rosa and Boyle

    • Spencer
      Spencer
      August 21, 2021 at 9:01 am | #

      I mean I was thinking about it so

      https://i.imgur.com/lW4sw3V.png

  28. darkoneko
    darkoneko
    August 21, 2021 at 5:22 am | #

    Meanwhile, Amazamber is watching her from above

    • misanthropope
      misanthropope
      August 21, 2021 at 12:44 pm | #

      “the baggins stole our danny, preciious”

      • Spencer
        Spencer
        August 21, 2021 at 2:11 pm | #

        Amber’s long gotten over Danny or at least thinks she’s not good enough for him.

        I think she actually said Sal should take a shot at him, now that I think about it.

  29. Wereg
    Wereg
    August 21, 2021 at 5:58 am | #

    She dropped the accent at the end there. Pretty sure that’s important, but my memory isn’t always the best.

    • Alex
      Alex
      August 21, 2021 at 10:24 am | #

      Malaya indicated that the accent might be a deliberate way to stand out.

      • BBCC
        BBCC
        August 21, 2021 at 11:56 am | #

        TBF, she also said that she drops it when she’s angry but when I looked back through Sal’s strips, this wasn’t really born out – if anything, her accent was THICKER when she was angry.

        • Needfuldoer
          Needfuldoer
          August 21, 2021 at 6:59 pm | #

          Can confirm. I start dropping my Rs when I’m ranting.

          • Roborat
            Roborat
            August 23, 2021 at 3:35 pm | #

            So you are anting then.

  30. Keulen
    Keulen
    August 21, 2021 at 6:00 am | #

    This is adorable and has me hoping that the Sal/Danny ship might still have a chance of sailing.

  31. Common sense
    Common sense
    August 21, 2021 at 8:53 am | #

    Dont worry, Danny is just a Phase.
    As soon as he Dannys it up again it will be all over and you can move on.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      August 21, 2021 at 9:51 am | #

      I don’t think she’s interested in Walky like that.

      • Spencer
        Spencer
        August 21, 2021 at 2:10 pm | #

        That’s how Danny knows Sal’s the one.

        She can’t date break up with him and start dating Walky.

        • Schpoonman
          Schpoonman
          August 21, 2021 at 4:32 pm | #

          Haaaaa.

        • Rabisch
          Rabisch
          August 22, 2021 at 3:32 am | #

          Makes sense!!!!

  32. JessWitt
    JessWitt
    August 21, 2021 at 9:30 am | #

    🎵 “Listen to your heart, there’s nothing else you can do.” 🎵

  33. Alan in DC
    Alan in DC
    August 21, 2021 at 9:55 am | #

    DW: This is the weekend for the “Awesome Con” pop culture convention in Washington DC. Woulda been a better show if you were out here.

    • voidsiren
      voidsiren
      August 21, 2021 at 10:49 am | #

      But the world is still covered in death!

  34. Deanatay
    Deanatay
    August 21, 2021 at 10:22 am | #

    While this is adorable, I can’t help but think Sal bought Danny a hat because she feels obligated to get Danny a gift because he gave her a gift – twice, technically, even if she paid him back for the first one, and rejected (and then stole) the second. I’m not even questioning whether she likes him – she clearly does – but transactional gift-giving, and transactional affection in general, is just toxic.

    • Rabisch
      Rabisch
      August 21, 2021 at 11:51 am | #

      It’s toxic only when forced. What if Sal wants to give Danny the hat because she thinks it will make him happy? We don’t even know if he bought it now, after spending the afternoon smelling the flowers, or not. Maybe she had bought it days ago, but she couldn’t give it to him because she’s shy.

    • Spencer
      Spencer
      August 21, 2021 at 12:37 pm | #

      What does that word even fucking mean anymore

    • Raptorofwar
      Raptorofwar
      August 21, 2021 at 1:22 pm | #

      When I was younger, my parents always taught me that when gifts were given, they had to be reciprocated or no one would like you, ever. That’s done *wonders* to my perception of gifts. I kinda hate gifts now.

    • Eldritchy
      Eldritchy
      August 21, 2021 at 1:52 pm | #

      Reminds me a story I read once. A couple moved into a new house and a pair of gay dudes came with a cake as a house-warming gift. The couple returned some baked goods, the gay dudes gave them some crocheted stuff and soon they found themselves in an adorable arms-race of niceness.

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      August 21, 2021 at 2:34 pm | #

      I think the toxic part is the reverse part – expecting such gifts to be reciprocated. It’s toxic partly because it preys upon a real instinct for reciprocation. That instinct isn’t a bad thing, unless it’s being exploited. It’s part of how we build social bonds.

      • Jason
        Jason
        August 21, 2021 at 10:03 pm | #

        The toxicity is when it sits in the back of the mind. “The only way I can be a real friend is if I give Friend as much value in gifts as they gave me.” “I can’t afford to get Friend a gift after they got me one, they must hate me and I am an awful person.” A person can absolutely learn to measure their own self worth through what they’re giving to other people and that is absolutely a toxic way to think imo.

  35. Alex
    Alex
    August 21, 2021 at 10:24 am | #

    I love to see that introspection turned on herself. Sal is really starting to grow as a person.

  36. Demoted Oblivious
    Demoted Oblivious
    August 21, 2021 at 1:38 pm | #

    I dispute you alt text. In canuck-land, the earliest sunsets are a little after 4pm. On checking, the 2021 earliest sunset in Bloomington, Indiana is 5:24:39 pm with twilight ending at 5:52:55 pm, and occurs in december. I’m watching you comic-book time. You can dilate. You can slow. A college girl can throw herself at a moving car and catch it, or vault to the roof of a multi-story dorm. But claiming your sunsets are earlier that the truth… that’s crossing a line I apparently won’t tolerate.

    • Kazuma Taichi
      Kazuma Taichi
      August 21, 2021 at 2:59 pm | #

      ^ This one, I like you

      As mid-northish canuckian, I too was like “4 pm sunset south of the 49th? hah, fat chance”, but I wasn’t prepared to do research to back up my claims, so hella props to you for beating me to the punch, and punching harder than I planned

      • BBCC
        BBCC
        August 21, 2021 at 4:00 pm | #

        Really? I’m in the south of Canada, but I’ve had sunsets that early. Twilight around 5ish and it’s fucking dark by 6 or 7.

        • Kazuma Taichi
          Kazuma Taichi
          August 23, 2021 at 5:21 pm | #

          I can see it maybe just east of mountain ranges, since that changes the effective height of the horizon, or if there’s enough tall buildings in the vicinity to create a similar effect.

    • Alan in DC
      Alan in DC
      August 21, 2021 at 3:47 pm | #

      Other than that, everything else in the strip makes perfect sense?

      Teen female superheroes that can flip out a 2nd story window and land silently?
      Nobody arrested or detained from the kidnapping, much less not thrown out of school?
      Dormitory roof doors left unlocked?

      For the entertainment it offers, I’ll accept an early sunset. Hell, I’ll accept a talking moon that throws pies.

      • King Daniel
        King Daniel
        August 21, 2021 at 6:28 pm | #

        Maybe it’s just really cloudy/there’s a thunderstorm approaching?

      • Demoted Oblivious
        Demoted Oblivious
        August 21, 2021 at 9:03 pm | #

        Hey, I gave examples of things I tolerate. Your examples fit well within the parameters of acceptable comixology. But incorrect sunsets… this is the hill I will die upon. Tell my children I love them, and my exes to fuck off, I have better things to do. I… expire.

    • Mark
      Mark
      August 22, 2021 at 10:50 am | #

      Are we talking actual sunset, or when it gets dark? In IN the clouds typically knit together and cover the sky from sometime in December to mid-March, with occasional breaks. It’s half-dark all the time, and at sunset it’s been quite dark for a bit already.

  37. Rotunda
    Rotunda
    August 21, 2021 at 7:47 pm | #

    Sal was wearing the same outfit at the party, but now it’s unbuttoned far enough to show some cleavage, as we can see when she lowers the hat in the last two frames.

    • Roborat
      Roborat
      August 23, 2021 at 3:41 pm | #

      Really? Looks the same to me.

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