I have no horse in this race, having been to neither, (the new shopping centre in Edinburgh has a Krispy Kreme, but I’ve not tried it yet), but that feels a bit like saying “All pizzas are more or less alike; it’s only the toppings that are different.”
I adamantly disagree.
The crust is the most important variable in pizza.
Bad crust means bad pizza, no matter what toppings they put on it.
Sauce is also an important factor – sweet tomato sauce is a hard limit for me.
Good pizza has a sturdy enough crust to not flop over when you curl the crust side in, unless it’s intentionally paper-thin. (In that case you should have to almost fold it in half.)
If it’s thin but made in a deep pan with the cheese all the way to the edge, so there’s a lace of burnt cheese sticking up from the outside edge, even better.
At least in my area, Dunkin seems to come out of the fryer already stale… the number of times I’ve gone there and gotten a non-crunchy donut in the last 15 years I could count on one hand. Krispy Kreme has stale donuts too if you’re unlucky, but anything glazed will have a decent shelf life.
I will give Dunkin credit for their breakfast sandwiches though, and decent-enough coffee for the price. Basically anything there is fine, except for the thing they’re named after.
I imagine it varies by location – as with most franchises. I’ve had extremely varied experiences with Dunkin just with the limited number of locations in my area. One is really good – both baked goods and coffee – while one of the others is fairly sucky.
There’s only one Krisyp Kreme in the area. My dad swears they have the best donuts in the world. And… yeah, no. Air-sugar is a good descriptor, TlalocW.
I see and stare down all your chain corporate doughnut shops (and I’ll throw Tim Hortons in and out of this ring), and I’ll raise you all whatever local independent Mom n’ Pop doughnut shop you have nearby that’s still alive. Independent doughnut shops, _whoever_ where-ever they are, 11/10 everytime.
Agreed – chains suck. We have neither KK nor Dunkin’s in my area, but three local doughnut stores compete fairly with each other. SLODOCO is the youngest and artsiest, appeals to the college-student crowd. Sunshine’s the oldest, and still the best for my money. Freshhh (yes, that’s not a misspelling) – well, it’s still in business, and they’re not bad.
people joke about Krispy Kreme around me, but I s2g I got hooked from all the middling school fundraisers we did through them yet as much as I crave them, my husband goes to Dunkin bc that’s down the street vs. two cities over though I can always go my damn self if we ever stop having a pandemic since two cities over is down the street from my company’s office though the problem THEN is I’m only MAYBE able to have one and I feel like a chump ordering one measly doughnut, even if it’s a Duck Donut
I really resonated with your immense “why has fast food struck me with a personal crisis, it’s fast food” energy. Thank you, I feel a little less alone than I did before reading this.
You don’t buy a single doughnut. You buy a dozen. You eat one. You stick one away for latter. You put the box out in the break room or wherever and the rest magically disappear.
Presumably the idea is that you will get the return on investment on other days when donuts or other foodstuffs magically appear in the office and one gets fed for free.
I really need an app that lets me add or subtract points from an avatar/profile so when/if I meet people like this in real life, I know/remember not to trust them.
“When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time. People know themselves much better than you do. That’s why it’s important to stop expecting them to be something other than who they are.”
— Dr. Maya Angelou
There are people in this world who believe in being good to each other, in being kind, and in sharing the burden of existence to make life better for all. There are also people who will skip from group to group, abusing and taking from those that they can for as long as they can get away with it, and will move along to the next mark the moment they get a chance, and care not one whit for helping, or being a part of community, except for that which they can take for themselves. There are degrees of this certainly, but one thing globalization has taken from us, is the ability for ostracizing a predator to have an impact on their behaviour. When tribalism could mean that ostracizing equaled risk of death, banishment was a threat. Now it’s an opportunity to move up. Until we figure out how to deal with the socio- and psycho-paths who are doing their utmost to destroy our civilization for their own gain, we need to keep trying things to work towards finding that solution. So yeah, I’m willing to try a social system that helps us ostracize assholes.
Jeeze I seem bitter tonight. Didn’t mean for it to be that strong, but I’m gonna let it stand. Always good to hear your thoughts though Clif.
Since Ms. Abides moved in with us, there’s been at least one weekend late-morning donut and cartoon session with her sister every week, and she always brings Krispy Kremes. I’m kinda hooked now, so I can definitely sympathize with your cravings.
I liked Krispy Kreme when I was younger but now I think they’re just too soft. I know that’s a good thing for some people but I’d like mine to have a little more substance for me to chew on, you know?
They briefly expanded into my region several years ago, and they marketed themselves as some kind of uber-premium donut experience. They lasted maybe three years until their restaurants closed and you could only find their donuts in display cases at convenience stores next to the Hostess and Entenmann’s products.
Meanwhile, Dunk’s and a couple local chains just kept on truckin’.
Are you in New England? Hard for anything to beat out Dunkin here. I’m in Boston where there’s a Dunkin every two blocks, and I can’t imagine Krispy Kreme ever getting a reasonable foothold (even though I know plenty of transplants who talk about how it’s the best thing ever).
Yup, south of Boston. Dunks and Honey Dew have this territory locked down. (I think that’s why Krispy Kreme was a flash in the pan up here. No idea how Marylou’s is still holding on.)
They don’t last on a shelf. They’re good for a few days, but they’ll be stale and rock hard in a week.
And at the Krispy Kreme store they’re very fresh, and you get them still hot when the hot doughnuts now sign is on.
They’re much better than Dunkin.
I should feel really lucky that there are 2 Krispy’s in my town, both about 10 minutes from me… But I dunno somewhere between the age of 22 and 25, the classic started tasting different to me so much that I don’t crave them anymore – especially when they’re Hot.
Still better than dunkin. I had duck donuts once before they closed in my area and I dream about their cake donut (or I think it was)
He has his moments, but yeah, Danny can be simple sometimes, which I definitely do not mean as a synonym for “stupid” here. And I mean, Sal probably can benefit from a little bit less complication in her life.
I think Huddle House is different. The one I once visited was probably in business only because they were Interstate adjacent and had a big parking lot.
(for big trucks)
So is there a German word, like “Fahrvergnügen,” except about the joy of biking instead of driving? Because I remember having that feeling a lot when I was these guys’ age, and in better shape.
I put Fahrvergnügen into google translate, it gave me driving pleasure, I swapped the language direction and changed it to biking pleasure, and it gave me Bike-Vergnügen
Considering one of the German words which translates to ‘bicycle’ is ‘Fahrrad’. I suspect ‘Fahrradvergnügen’ would come awfully close.
Google Translate shows it to mean “cycling pleasure”. So there ya go.
psst. psst should have two s’ minimum, to emphasize the onomatopoeia and distance it from Pacific Standard Time (SSSHHHHH!) even though it’s not upper case. Also, and this is important, .
You see, fahren doesn’t mean “drive”. It means “move on wheels, by ship, to hell or up into heaven”.
Reiten, as in riding a horse, is not used for vehicles at all. Even if you call your bike a Drahtesel “wire donkey” and yourself a Pedalritter “pedal knight”, what you do is still fahren.
These are acceptable, although they are little more than silhouettes of a bicycle. I’ll wait until Willis tries to do a detailed closeup before I hand down my final verdict.
Nah, staying put is great. Make yourself comfy, grab a book or movie or comic or just the internet, and stay there until life sadly forces you to depart.
Can’t wait for Danny to accidentally run into the back of Sal’s bike, so she can mad and threaten him: “Boy, I”m gonna activate your dental plan!”
(I love that movie so much!)
I will actually agree that Tim Hortons is a solid choice for donuts. Better the Krispy Kreme, IMO.
That said, their coffee is pretty meh. Not undrinkable, but not good either.
Dunkin, meanwhile, is my favorite coffee anywhere. Starbucks ain’t got nothin on Dunkin Cold Brew.
(or, as noted above, the DCB at the ‘good’ Dunkin near my house rather than the ‘bad’ Dunkin three miles south where the Cold Brew tastes like tap water that someone poured half a coffee into).
As a canuck, Imma point out that a _formerly_ canadian company that factory freeze-ships everything and squeezes their franchisees for every red cent they can, doesn’t deserve any more loyalty than any other fascist corporate chain conglomerate.
(I’ll take a Top Pot over any other chain any day of the week, though I’ve yet to try a Tim Horton’s. If it’s Krispy vs. Dunkin’, though, Krispy all the way.)
The only one of these Americans donut chains I’ve tried here in the UK is Krispy Kreme, and I wasn’t impressed.
Did spend a fun couple of hours in Portland queueing for Voodoo Donut, I liked those.
I never expected to watch an actual band playing live in the street to entertain people queueing for doughnuts, but there you go.
I know the UK did at least at one point have Dunkin’, because a scene in Following (one of Nolan’s first films, filmed and set in London) is set there.
Traveling just for the pleasure of traveling… Sal is slowly turning out to be the most romantic character on the strip. I wonder if in autumn she sits in the park watching the leaves fall from the trees. I like it♡, I think Danny will love this side of her personality too.
IMO, I think it’s more that most of the places Sal is are places she doesn’t want to be.
When she’s on the road, she’s not at any of those. She’s in transit, her position in flux, unknowable.
It’s as close to true freedom as she’s ever able or allowed to be.
StClair’s interpretation makes sense to me. I think something similar to what Sal says a lot–when you’re on the road, you feel like you’re going somewhere. You’re only doing a little work to feel like you’re actually moving forward, to distract from the fact that when you get somewhere, you have to deal with the pressure of actually doing a thing, or the reality that what you want you can’t just drive/bike to, that moving isn’t necessarily moving forward. This might not be exactly what Sal’s feeling but i bet it’s somewhere around there… Being in transit/in flux is definitely freeing, but in a bittersweet way, because it always ends.
On the other hand I also think Rabisch’s point about Sal being a secret romantic makes lots of sense with this plotline, and i can definitely see her sitting in the park watching leaves fall…
That actually reminds me of the story of John McDouall Stuart, the first man (or first European, at least) from south to north and back again. By all accounts, John was actually a fairly disagreeable man in “civilized society”, with a lot of personal demons. He drank to excess, he swore and gambled, some accounts said he beat his wife. But when he was out on the roads, focused purely on the journey and surviving day-to-day, he was a completely different person. It was like having all of your attention and efforts devoted purely to getting to the next stop meant that all of the constructs and expectations of society fell away. It makes me wonder if some people are just not well built to function in society, and would be much happier being a frontiersman or eternal wanderer.
I think Sal has a really big romantic component in her. But StClair’s interpretation is probably more true. Poor Sal. What a tormented soul. At least now she’s no more alone.
I suddenly realised that Danny and Joyce, both of whom you’d expect Linda to consider good influences on Sal, are both being bad influences. I’m sure that there’s a joke in that somewhere.
I think it’s the other way around. Danny’s a good influence, and as soon as Sal’s parents make commentary to that effect she’s going to resent it a lot.
By enabling Sal to skip classes. I know that from a reader’s perspective that’s understandable. However, from Linda’s perspective, things would be very different.
Why wouldn’t we define the actions or motivations of a fictional character, even one who is an asshole?
Like if Danny and Sal get serious that strikes me as a pretty obvious point for drama: Sal dating a guy her jerkass parents love because he’s so nice and normal and he’ll set her straight.
Sal is less a loner than someone who’s been traumatized and flees connection and contact. Her high school didn’t prepare her well for college or it’s social life.
Jonathan Joss being shot outside his home while protecting his husband after being sent a threatening and distressing package is WHY we need Pride
It's 2025 and people are still being shot and killed for being queer
This is why we march and why we fight
the thing about white liberal Americans is that they'll argue to accept bigots into their tent before accepting the bigots' targets.
the targets that have been on the same side as white liberals from the jump.
John Redcorn was pretty much the only contemporary Native representation I had in comedy growing up. Probably the funniest Native character in cartoon history and a lot of that was on Jonathan Joss' pitch perfect rezzy uncle performance. RIP to one of the best to ever do it.
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and the actual truth, which is yes you did, fuck you
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As long as it’s not a Dunkin you’re good
S’matter with Dunkins? All doughnuts taste more a less alike; it’s only the coating or filling that’s different.
Dunkin’ is just fine. Krispy Kremes get boring fast.
I have no horse in this race, having been to neither, (the new shopping centre in Edinburgh has a Krispy Kreme, but I’ve not tried it yet), but that feels a bit like saying “All pizzas are more or less alike; it’s only the toppings that are different.”
I adamantly disagree.
The crust is the most important variable in pizza.
Bad crust means bad pizza, no matter what toppings they put on it.
Sauce is also an important factor – sweet tomato sauce is a hard limit for me.
ff you’re not allergic, try pesto as a pizza sauce.
I have and it’s wonderful, but it isn’t that commonly served. I only know of a couple of places where I can get that.
True
but that’s why I make a pizza once a month at home, so we can have the pizza we really want.
Good pizza has a sturdy enough crust to not flop over when you curl the crust side in, unless it’s intentionally paper-thin. (In that case you should have to almost fold it in half.)
If it’s thin but made in a deep pan with the cheese all the way to the edge, so there’s a lace of burnt cheese sticking up from the outside edge, even better.
Dunkin’s donuts taste like icing over flavorless bread. Decent coffee though
At least in my area, Dunkin seems to come out of the fryer already stale… the number of times I’ve gone there and gotten a non-crunchy donut in the last 15 years I could count on one hand. Krispy Kreme has stale donuts too if you’re unlucky, but anything glazed will have a decent shelf life.
I will give Dunkin credit for their breakfast sandwiches though, and decent-enough coffee for the price. Basically anything there is fine, except for the thing they’re named after.
badbakers.com
Evilly good.
Oh, man, give me Dunkin any day over Krispy Kreme’s air-sugar.
This! There’s nothing else quite like a fresh, plain glazed from Dunkin’. Sure it’s garbage tier fast food, but it doesn’t pretend it’s anything else.
I imagine it varies by location – as with most franchises. I’ve had extremely varied experiences with Dunkin just with the limited number of locations in my area. One is really good – both baked goods and coffee – while one of the others is fairly sucky.
There’s only one Krisyp Kreme in the area. My dad swears they have the best donuts in the world. And… yeah, no. Air-sugar is a good descriptor, TlalocW.
I prefer Texas Donuts … they have a donut the size of your head, containing enough dough for 14 regular sized donuts…. heart-stoppingly delish
I see and stare down all your chain corporate doughnut shops (and I’ll throw Tim Hortons in and out of this ring), and I’ll raise you all whatever local independent Mom n’ Pop doughnut shop you have nearby that’s still alive. Independent doughnut shops, _whoever_ where-ever they are, 11/10 everytime.
Agreed – chains suck. We have neither KK nor Dunkin’s in my area, but three local doughnut stores compete fairly with each other. SLODOCO is the youngest and artsiest, appeals to the college-student crowd. Sunshine’s the oldest, and still the best for my money. Freshhh (yes, that’s not a misspelling) – well, it’s still in business, and they’re not bad.
people joke about Krispy Kreme around me, but I s2g I got hooked from all the middling school fundraisers we did through them yet as much as I crave them, my husband goes to Dunkin bc that’s down the street vs. two cities over though I can always go my damn self if we ever stop having a pandemic since two cities over is down the street from my company’s office though the problem THEN is I’m only MAYBE able to have one and I feel like a chump ordering one measly doughnut, even if it’s a Duck Donut
I really resonated with your immense “why has fast food struck me with a personal crisis, it’s fast food” energy. Thank you, I feel a little less alone than I did before reading this.
You don’t buy a single doughnut. You buy a dozen. You eat one. You stick one away for latter. You put the box out in the break room or wherever and the rest magically disappear.
Pretty much.
That’s nonsense. Then you’ve just paid for ten doughnuts you don’t even get to eat. Why would anyone ever do that?
If you’re only going to eat two, only buy two. If someone else wants some, they can fork over for their own.
Presumably the idea is that you will get the return on investment on other days when donuts or other foodstuffs magically appear in the office and one gets fed for free.
a.k.a.
“Who wants friends or to be accepted in to a welcoming supportive social circle? Fuck you man, I got mine!”
I really need an app that lets me add or subtract points from an avatar/profile so when/if I meet people like this in real life, I know/remember not to trust them.
I’m not sure I would go that far, but good stuff is always more enjoyable shared.
“When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time. People know themselves much better than you do. That’s why it’s important to stop expecting them to be something other than who they are.”
— Dr. Maya Angelou
There are people in this world who believe in being good to each other, in being kind, and in sharing the burden of existence to make life better for all. There are also people who will skip from group to group, abusing and taking from those that they can for as long as they can get away with it, and will move along to the next mark the moment they get a chance, and care not one whit for helping, or being a part of community, except for that which they can take for themselves. There are degrees of this certainly, but one thing globalization has taken from us, is the ability for ostracizing a predator to have an impact on their behaviour. When tribalism could mean that ostracizing equaled risk of death, banishment was a threat. Now it’s an opportunity to move up. Until we figure out how to deal with the socio- and psycho-paths who are doing their utmost to destroy our civilization for their own gain, we need to keep trying things to work towards finding that solution. So yeah, I’m willing to try a social system that helps us ostracize assholes.
Jeeze I seem bitter tonight. Didn’t mean for it to be that strong, but I’m gonna let it stand. Always good to hear your thoughts though Clif.
I should probably have provided a citation (Dr Maya Angelou, Oprah Winfrey) for all that too.
Since Ms. Abides moved in with us, there’s been at least one weekend late-morning donut and cartoon session with her sister every week, and she always brings Krispy Kremes. I’m kinda hooked now, so I can definitely sympathize with your cravings.
I liked Krispy Kreme when I was younger but now I think they’re just too soft. I know that’s a good thing for some people but I’d like mine to have a little more substance for me to chew on, you know?
They briefly expanded into my region several years ago, and they marketed themselves as some kind of uber-premium donut experience. They lasted maybe three years until their restaurants closed and you could only find their donuts in display cases at convenience stores next to the Hostess and Entenmann’s products.
Meanwhile, Dunk’s and a couple local chains just kept on truckin’.
Are you in New England? Hard for anything to beat out Dunkin here. I’m in Boston where there’s a Dunkin every two blocks, and I can’t imagine Krispy Kreme ever getting a reasonable foothold (even though I know plenty of transplants who talk about how it’s the best thing ever).
Yup, south of Boston. Dunks and Honey Dew have this territory locked down. (I think that’s why Krispy Kreme was a flash in the pan up here. No idea how Marylou’s is still holding on.)
If they last exactly the same on a shelf like hostess does, what’s the point in maintaining a storefront for ‘fresh’ delivery?
They don’t last on a shelf. They’re good for a few days, but they’ll be stale and rock hard in a week.
And at the Krispy Kreme store they’re very fresh, and you get them still hot when the hot doughnuts now sign is on.
They’re much better than Dunkin.
The local Hess station had one of those infrared warming display cases and got fresh deliveries daily.
Now that their closest location is 75 miles away, we don’t get their donuts anymore.
I should feel really lucky that there are 2 Krispy’s in my town, both about 10 minutes from me… But I dunno somewhere between the age of 22 and 25, the classic started tasting different to me so much that I don’t crave them anymore – especially when they’re Hot.
Still better than dunkin. I had duck donuts once before they closed in my area and I dream about their cake donut (or I think it was)
if there was a donut conveyor belt, that’s Duck
You get to the place and then you go somewhere else when you chose. It’s not really that complicated Sal.
The joy is in the journey, not the destination. If you aren’t enjoying the journey, you probably picked the wrong destination.
“The journey sucks. That’s why you have a destination.”
-Clark W. Griswold (I think, I only saw a preview with that line once)
Ahhh the sweet embrace of death.
You can have the journey and the destination
Sal is trying to be profound, but she must have forgotten she’s talking to Danny
He has his moments, but yeah, Danny can be simple sometimes, which I definitely do not mean as a synonym for “stupid” here. And I mean, Sal probably can benefit from a little bit less complication in her life.
Doughnuts can be as complicated as you make them.
Only if you’re the one baking them.
If you’re baking them, you’re doing it very, very wrong.
It’s not a doughnut if you don’t deep fry it.
She’s also forgotten she’s a teenager
Yes, Krispy Kreme, the company that’s always one K away from disaster!
What does the hypothetical third K stand for?
kum
Krispy Kreme Klan
Kompany!
Knish
You thought it was Krispy Kreme BUT IT WAS I, GALASSO
In the background of this comic,never focused on, but happening at all times, is the Franchise Wars.
Soon the characters will look around and every restaurant in town will be a Galasso’s.
Is that a Galasso’s KFC/Taco-Bell?
They’re at the combination Galasso’s/KFC/Taco Bell
upvote
“No matter where you go, there you are. At Krispy Kreme.”
If you weren’t trying to get somewhere, and just turned up without really knowing how, you’re probably at Denny’s.
But you’ll go past the IHOP before you get to Denny’s or Krispy Kreme…
…and then there’s the matter of Huddle House.
Is Huddle House what they call Waffle House in your neck of the woods?
I think Huddle House is different. The one I once visited was probably in business only because they were Interstate adjacent and had a big parking lot.
(for big trucks)
That may explain Rita Repulsa.
… and his adventures across the 8th doughnut shoppe.
You know, I can’t even poke fun. A snowy day like that, I bet a donut would really hit the spot.
Dammit. Now I want a coffee and a doughnut.
Aw, why you gotta ruin a perfectly good doughnut with gross bean-water?
so profoun
If she was going for profound, it would probably be something like, I don’t know, “Do or donut, there is no try.”
That’s more of a Danny thing to say, or a Walky thing to say.
… Sal, on the other hand, would do donuts on her bicycle.
She’s got a Ticket To Ride–
–And she don’t care!
So is there a German word, like “Fahrvergnügen,” except about the joy of biking instead of driving? Because I remember having that feeling a lot when I was these guys’ age, and in better shape.
I put Fahrvergnügen into google translate, it gave me driving pleasure, I swapped the language direction and changed it to biking pleasure, and it gave me Bike-Vergnügen
Considering one of the German words which translates to ‘bicycle’ is ‘Fahrrad’. I suspect ‘Fahrradvergnügen’ would come awfully close.
Google Translate shows it to mean “cycling pleasure”. So there ya go.
fahn fahn fahn auf de Autobahn
fahren, fahren, fahren auf der Autobahn
(yes, it still rhymes)
(pst woobie was just using a colloquial spelling of fahren)
(oh right that was your point actually) (i guess) (sorry)
psst. psst should have two s’ minimum, to emphasize the onomatopoeia and distance it from Pacific Standard Time (SSSHHHHH!) even though it’s not upper case. Also, and this is important, .
boop
sincere apologies u_u
wut? y u apologize for a boop? u got booped. u no apologize when booped. boop should make smile. if no smile from boop, will apologize for boop.
^w^
Thanks; I never saw the lyrics written out.
Precisely the band who went from “driving expensive and fast cars is fun” to “Tour de France”.
Radspass anytime.
and now all I hear is *I want to ride bicycle I want to ride my bike*
And are you going to ride it where you like?
Also, the joy of driving short distances is Nearvergnügen, and the joy of driving with a friend is Whereveryouarevergnügen.
The More You Know
Fahrvergnügen works perfectly well for biking.
You see, fahren doesn’t mean “drive”. It means “move on wheels, by ship, to hell or up into heaven”.
Reiten, as in riding a horse, is not used for vehicles at all. Even if you call your bike a Drahtesel “wire donkey” and yourself a Pedalritter “pedal knight”, what you do is still fahren.
Ok _now_. NOW I have to fix my wiredonkey and get back into being a pedalknight!
Pedalknights Errant
Skål and huzzah! To adventure!
ah, nobody likes to invent words for feelings and things we never ever know how to name, like the Germans
Yeah. That just fills me with gemutlichkeit. (Plus some flavor of umlaut.)
can replace umlaut with “ue” here
I would not be surprised if there’s a German word for that feeling.
The romantic and the realist, but they get to take turns as each
What’s harder to draw? A bike or a motorcycle? I’m betting the bicycle
Considering how rarely I see realistically drawn bicycles, you’re probably right.
These are acceptable, although they are little more than silhouettes of a bicycle. I’ll wait until Willis tries to do a detailed closeup before I hand down my final verdict.
Considering how Willis chooses to draw them as seen from a longer distance than Sal’s or Asher’s motorcycles, I would bet on the bike.
shit, the issue is real
Neither of them really lend themselves to visual media. They’re more often spoken.
*flees for dear punning life*
NO!
I wonder if Sarah would loan me her groan.
Unrealistic portrayal of college life. They’re both wearing helmets.
I believe the helmets. I just don’t believe the lack of logos or other advertising.
I agree with both of them. Going places is fun, and so is just moving.
I disagree with both of them and you. Going places is awful, and moving about aimlessly is even worse.
but nothing matches the deplorableness of staying put.
Nah, staying put is great. Make yourself comfy, grab a book or movie or comic or just the internet, and stay there until life sadly forces you to depart.
The thing to do is pick a direction and ride that direction as far as you can. And when you come to an ocean, you pick a different direction.
Biking is like skiing: “Go that way, very fast. If something gets in your way, TURN.”
“Have you any idea what the street value of this mountain is?!”
And *why* does Sal want to go biking with Danny?
LANGUAGE LESSONS.
(Kosell)Bold words, from a man who knows how to bicycle!(/Kosell)
Can’t wait for Danny to accidentally run into the back of Sal’s bike, so she can mad and threaten him: “Boy, I”m gonna activate your dental plan!”
(I love that movie so much!)
TWO DOOLLLAAAAAaaaaarrrsss
Ah, the Forrest Gump approach.
Also, while I have come down on Dunkins in the Dunkin vs. Krispy Kreme showdown, they both pale compared to Tim Horton’s.
FINALLY SOMEONE SAYS IT
Eh, Tim Hortons ain’t as good as it used to be. The Sandwiches in particular are bad now
I will actually agree that Tim Hortons is a solid choice for donuts. Better the Krispy Kreme, IMO.
That said, their coffee is pretty meh. Not undrinkable, but not good either.
Dunkin, meanwhile, is my favorite coffee anywhere. Starbucks ain’t got nothin on Dunkin Cold Brew.
(or, as noted above, the DCB at the ‘good’ Dunkin near my house rather than the ‘bad’ Dunkin three miles south where the Cold Brew tastes like tap water that someone poured half a coffee into).
As a canuck, Imma point out that a _formerly_ canadian company that factory freeze-ships everything and squeezes their franchisees for every red cent they can, doesn’t deserve any more loyalty than any other fascist corporate chain conglomerate.
Mom n’ Pop doughnut shops or bust.
Two kinds of people
My suspicion is that this is the single most sensible thing Sal has ever heard coming from anyone’s lips ever.
Wise words, Danny. Wise words.
(I’ll take a Top Pot over any other chain any day of the week, though I’ve yet to try a Tim Horton’s. If it’s Krispy vs. Dunkin’, though, Krispy all the way.)
Tim’s street cred is historical, not current. You’re no longer missing anything.
The only one of these Americans donut chains I’ve tried here in the UK is Krispy Kreme, and I wasn’t impressed.
Did spend a fun couple of hours in Portland queueing for Voodoo Donut, I liked those.
I never expected to watch an actual band playing live in the street to entertain people queueing for doughnuts, but there you go.
I know the UK did at least at one point have Dunkin’, because a scene in Following (one of Nolan’s first films, filmed and set in London) is set there.
Traveling just for the pleasure of traveling… Sal is slowly turning out to be the most romantic character on the strip. I wonder if in autumn she sits in the park watching the leaves fall from the trees. I like it♡, I think Danny will love this side of her personality too.
IMO, I think it’s more that most of the places Sal is are places she doesn’t want to be.
When she’s on the road, she’s not at any of those. She’s in transit, her position in flux, unknowable.
It’s as close to true freedom as she’s ever able or allowed to be.
StClair’s interpretation makes sense to me. I think something similar to what Sal says a lot–when you’re on the road, you feel like you’re going somewhere. You’re only doing a little work to feel like you’re actually moving forward, to distract from the fact that when you get somewhere, you have to deal with the pressure of actually doing a thing, or the reality that what you want you can’t just drive/bike to, that moving isn’t necessarily moving forward. This might not be exactly what Sal’s feeling but i bet it’s somewhere around there… Being in transit/in flux is definitely freeing, but in a bittersweet way, because it always ends.
On the other hand I also think Rabisch’s point about Sal being a secret romantic makes lots of sense with this plotline, and i can definitely see her sitting in the park watching leaves fall…
That actually reminds me of the story of John McDouall Stuart, the first man (or first European, at least) from south to north and back again. By all accounts, John was actually a fairly disagreeable man in “civilized society”, with a lot of personal demons. He drank to excess, he swore and gambled, some accounts said he beat his wife. But when he was out on the roads, focused purely on the journey and surviving day-to-day, he was a completely different person. It was like having all of your attention and efforts devoted purely to getting to the next stop meant that all of the constructs and expectations of society fell away. It makes me wonder if some people are just not well built to function in society, and would be much happier being a frontiersman or eternal wanderer.
*first man to cross the Australian continent, that is
I think Sal has a really big romantic component in her. But StClair’s interpretation is probably more true. Poor Sal. What a tormented soul. At least now she’s no more alone.
alt-text: these bikes are getting out of hand — now there’s two of them!!
You say that like it’s a bad thing….
Pretty sure that’s a Star Wars reference (youtube link)
The two of them just going for a bike ride together is so wholesome and cute. I know Danny is a goof sometimes but I think he’s good for Sal.
Bite the horizon, as Terry Pratchett put it.
That’s been some good lurken’ mate. I need to take notes.
mmm, donut, mmm must bite.
I suddenly realised that Danny and Joyce, both of whom you’d expect Linda to consider good influences on Sal, are both being bad influences. I’m sure that there’s a joke in that somewhere.
How’s Danny being a bad influence?
I think it’s the other way around. Danny’s a good influence, and as soon as Sal’s parents make commentary to that effect she’s going to resent it a lot.
By enabling Sal to skip classes. I know that from a reader’s perspective that’s understandable. However, from Linda’s perspective, things would be very different.
I think Sal skipping class was completely beyond Danny’s power.
Yeah, something tells me that Linda wouldn’t believe that.
Linda strikes me as the last person to believe that Sal needs someone else to convince her to make a bad decision.
Linda might go with either.
1. Danny shouldn’t encourage Sal => is a bad influence
2. Sal shouldn’t drag Danny down with her
Both are Linda being shit and I’m not sure y’all need to be arguing over /how/ she’s shit. It’s not like we need to worry about her nitrogen content.
This is a weird comment.
Why wouldn’t we define the actions or motivations of a fictional character, even one who is an asshole?
Like if Danny and Sal get serious that strikes me as a pretty obvious point for drama: Sal dating a guy her jerkass parents love because he’s so nice and normal and he’ll set her straight.
Oh nothing wrong with that. I guess from outside it just looked like two folks arguing about wanting to share the same side of the table.
Sal is less a loner than someone who’s been traumatized and flees connection and contact. Her high school didn’t prepare her well for college or it’s social life.
She’s too intelligent for Daniel. sorry guy.
Well, now I want donuts.
wherever you go, there you are
Bleh. Krappy Kreme.
Winchell’s forever!
This Was Our Pact, by David Willis.
Dan: You get any sleep last night?
Sal: I don’t sleep, I just dream
Dan:
underrated comment
@Alt-text: We should not have made this bargain
^ Came for this and did not find it. Was so disappointed that I decided to comment for the first time ever
One of us! One of us! Gooble gobble gooble gobble one of us!
anyone else get Conneticut Clark and Malfina vibes from these two?
I can hear ruth yelling that Tim’s is superior. (that being said Tim’s has gone way down hill since it was bought by a Brazilian conglomerate)