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by David M Willis on December 23, 2021 at 12:01 am
  • 02 – I'll Leave You A Phantom
└ Tags: amber, joe

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  1. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    December 23, 2021 at 12:03 am | #

    If this convo doesn’t fit into a tweet, tl;dl

    • ThunderNight
      ThunderNight
      December 23, 2021 at 12:08 am | #

      280 characters or less

      • Leorale
        Leorale
        December 23, 2021 at 1:03 am | #

        This comic has a lot of characters, but still fewer than 280. Phew, close call.

        • Deanatay
          Deanatay
          December 23, 2021 at 8:49 am | #

          True, but some of them are REAL characters, IYKWIM. AITYD.

          • Drew
            Drew
            December 23, 2021 at 11:53 am | #

            Surprise Joe Bob Briggs!

  2. King Daniel
    King Daniel
    December 23, 2021 at 12:05 am | #

    Jeez, is Joe crushing on Joyce actually that obvious?

    • Thag Simmons
      Thag Simmons
      December 23, 2021 at 12:06 am | #

      yeah

      • LiterallyJustSomeGuy
        LiterallyJustSomeGuy
        December 23, 2021 at 2:19 pm | #

        I thought you’d be linking this one: 2021/comic/book-11/05-as-long-as-its-free/colder/

        • LiterallyJustSomeGuy
          LiterallyJustSomeGuy
          December 23, 2021 at 2:20 pm | #

          https://www.dumbingofage.com/2021/comic/book-11/05-as-long-as-its-free/colder/

  3. Doctor_Who
    Doctor_Who
    December 23, 2021 at 12:06 am | #

    Speaking of speedrunning, meanwhile Joyce has looked up “Places for atheists to hang out”, discovered, and having a mind as impressionable as wet clay is speedrunning that.

    She’s already eaten Joe’s entire bottle of vitamin gummies because she’s pro-legalization now, cashed in her next tuition payment to buy crypto, and written a 5000 word dissertation on how Thanos was right.

    Somebody stop her before she discovers Joe Rogan.

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      December 23, 2021 at 12:06 am | #

      discovered REDDIT, I don’t know how that word got deleted.

      • Thag Simmons
        Thag Simmons
        December 23, 2021 at 12:49 am | #

        Censors picked up on it, you aren’t allowed to say here

        • King Daniel
          King Daniel
          December 23, 2021 at 1:00 am | #

          Well if that’s now picked up by the site autocensor (and since the site autocensor is retroactive–I recall Willis once LOL’d in the comments section when I pointed out that a certain early strip titled simply the “B-word” had been autocorrected to Bongo as a result of the autocensor), I think that might well change the meaning of quite a few comments from a month or so ago regarding certain commenters styling themselves in the manner of a certain site’s subsection. 😛

        • Michael Haneline
          Michael Haneline
          December 23, 2021 at 1:29 am | #

          reddit?

          • Thag Simmons
            Thag Simmons
            December 23, 2021 at 1:55 am | #

            Dang how’d you get that past the censor

          • Spencer
            Spencer
            December 23, 2021 at 8:44 am | #

            Let’s see if Reddit works.

          • Spencer
            Spencer
            December 23, 2021 at 8:44 am | #

            Huh, thought for sure that’d work with just the first letter capitalized.

        • Spriteless Auntie
          Spriteless Auntie
          December 23, 2021 at 8:47 am | #

          Good ol’ auto censor. I think it gets the DYW that people used to say whenever Willis did a plot that hurts.

          • David M Willis
            David M Willis
            December 23, 2021 at 8:53 am | #

            “reddit” is not in the word replacer in any form!

          • Thag Simmons
            Thag Simmons
            December 23, 2021 at 1:30 pm | #

            Feel like I failed to properly indicate that I was joking about the site censoring the word “Reddit”

            • Yumi
              Yumi
              December 23, 2021 at 2:16 pm | #

              I figured you were joking to the extent that I didn’t want to risk testing it out, lest I look a fool.

      • drs
        drs
        December 23, 2021 at 1:58 am | #

        reddit?

      • Masumi
        Masumi
        December 23, 2021 at 8:32 pm | #

        … It was pretty obvious what you were talking about anyway XD

    • DrunkenNordmann
      DrunkenNordmann
      December 23, 2021 at 12:31 am | #

      So how long before she spontaneously materialises a fedora?

    • The Wellerman
      The Wellerman
      December 23, 2021 at 12:48 am | #

      Nice, but maybe chill with including pro-legalization with all that?

      It really doesn’t help this cause to be demoted to a fringe position like this.

      • Spencer
        Spencer
        December 23, 2021 at 8:48 am | #

        yeh

        The War On Drugs is just something employed for scared white people and to fill the ranks of the for-profit prison system.

        Weed is only illegal because some rich berks in the 30s saw that hemp would cut into their business. In the 60s the word ‘Marijuana’ got bandied around by conservative politicians in charge to ensure that burgeoning social movements would be associated with a drug with a foreign name.

        So it’s real fucking funny to me to see a post about drinking the Kool-Aid that actually drank the fucking Kool-Aid.

        • Daniel M Ball
          Daniel M Ball
          December 23, 2021 at 12:09 pm | #

          It’s uglier than that, Spencer, it’s not just the private prisons-they’re more of a symptom than the disease. You see, the Drug War is a multibillion dollar industry employing thousands upon thousands of people so specialized in their craft that they’re effectively unemployable without a black market to work against. And that’s just half of it. The other half, is that you won’t find an international bank that isn’t awash in cocaine and heroin money, it’s involved in your hedge funds too. BOTH sides use armies of accountants to keep track of their accountants, and they often work together. (Witness BATFE’s fantastic and amazing “Operation: Fast and Furious” which the main agency responsible for regulating firearms facilitated arming the Sinaloa Cartel by subverting U.S. Laws and law enforcement mechanisms as part of one of the stupidest ‘sting’ operations in history-they put the guns out there so they could ‘find them’ at crime scenes, without so much as a stripe of radioactive paint to actually trace down the flow of arms from straw buyers to organized criminals. People died from this, but the guys who set it up didn’t even face charges.)

          It’s a corruptive system with ‘benefits’ for all the sponsors. People who object to civil liberties get to push restrictive laws because of the terror and violence, the violent criminals get to become millionaires and billionaires, the prosecution gets to use things like ‘civil asset forfieture’ written for the drug war to go after anyone who doesn’t have enough connections to fight back, and law enforcement gets armored vehicles and military grade weapons, along with a license to steal from the citizens (see: Civil Asset Forfieture), further, they get to use the fear to enact more and more restrictions on civil rights, target minorities and break minority communities (great for furthering the Poverty Plantation)…about the only peop[le it DOESN’T benefit, are the regular citizens who aren’t criminals. Hell, even with all the above, drugs (hard drugs) are cheaper and more available now, than they were when the stuff was LEGAL (accounting for inflation).

          so, y’know, it’s actually harmful. as Bill Hicks said in 1988, “it’s not a war on drugs, it’s a war on personal freedom.” because it absolutely is. Every negative outcome of Prohibition from the 1920s is amplified geometrically, including the soaking of the taxpayer and the persistence of ‘temporary measures’ that don’t actually do anything to stem the flow of poison into the veins of your kids, friends, and co-workers.

          because it’s not MEANT to solv e the problem, it’s meant and structured to exacerbate the problem and make it steadily worse…a bit like the ‘war on poverty’ or the ‘war on terror’ but more profitable for the corrupt on both sides than the second, and easier to maintain ignorant support for via terror tactics than the first.

  4. Ray Radlein
    Ray Radlein
    December 23, 2021 at 12:08 am | #

    Poor Joe could actually use a sister to talk to right now, come to think of it

  5. Yumi
    Yumi
    December 23, 2021 at 12:09 am | #

    An attempt was made?

    • The Wellerman
      The Wellerman
      December 23, 2021 at 12:12 am | #

      That, and she’s thinking of the positives too, I guess?

      What she would have had to pay a therapist to say to her, she’s already doing.

      Also, what the hell is a “squint test”?

      • Robbie
        Robbie
        December 23, 2021 at 12:15 am | #

        She means he sort of looks like Ethan if she squints

        • Robbie
          Robbie
          December 23, 2021 at 12:16 am | #

          And she would rather talk to Ethan

      • Yumi
        Yumi
        December 23, 2021 at 12:16 am | #

        I would hope that wouldn’t be what a therapist would say to her, but I guess it varies.

        • The Wellerman
          The Wellerman
          December 23, 2021 at 12:19 am | #

          Any particular reason not to hope so?

          • Yumi
            Yumi
            December 23, 2021 at 12:22 am | #

            Because I think that’d be a shitty way to approach therapy, especially with the the conclusion of “having very little room to complain.”

            • The Wellerman
              The Wellerman
              December 23, 2021 at 12:25 am | #

              I’m so glad we’re on the same page 😣

        • Rocket Relm
          Rocket Relm
          December 23, 2021 at 12:19 am | #

          Hey, my therapist told me I have no hope of ever getting better. It does vary.

          • Thag Simmons
            Thag Simmons
            December 23, 2021 at 12:22 am | #

            not an expert but pretty sure that makes them a bad therapist.

            • Daniel M Ball
              Daniel M Ball
              December 23, 2021 at 2:41 am | #

              Thag, that largely depends on what the problem is. some things people just don’t recover from without surgical intervention-like Gender Dysphoria. (and a lot of those folks don’t recover even with it.) Brain tumours are another one you just ‘don’t recover from’, and nobody’s found a really useful treatment for actual ‘Anti-social personality disorder’ (which is NOT being unsociable, it’s being perfectly okay with murdering other people because you feel like it and then experiencing zero guilt or empathy for your victims). Why? because these are BRAIN things, not mind things.
              a Shrink I used to see at the VA put it this way: If nothing’s actually wrong, and you’re depressed, you have a problem. If your life has gone to shit, your body is rotting around you with cancer or some other degenerative disease? or if you’re maimed and horribly crippled? well, depression is pretty normal, it’s not a mental illness at that point, it’s a reaction and response to reality. GD, and other organic damage can’t be cured with therapy-you can learn to live with them, maybe, but they aren’t things you can just talk away. Not at least, any more effectively than trying to pray your way from being gay (which also doesn’t work, because it’s an organic difference in the brain, not a construct of the mind, it’s like being born with brown eyes instead of green, or red hair, or a body that grows parts that don’t feel like they belong).

              • Spriteless Auntie
                Spriteless Auntie
                December 23, 2021 at 9:06 am | #

                I dunno about the brain-mind ditchonomy being used like that. I’d say it’s better to not try to convert the gays because it’s crappy to try to convert gays, rather than because gay brains are different. I mean, all differences from mind come from differences in brains, in a casual universe. It is true that some things can be trained away with exercizes and role play, while others can’t. A sociopath with enough impulse control can learn to look at the long view, and not creep out people who can hurt them back, which is everyone. Impulse control is something there’s strategies to work on. It’s a benefit to society if they do.
                Likewise gays can train to be as straight as Ethan’s dad. Not much benefit, and a lot of lost joy. If I am gay because of events in my life, not because of some intrinsic thing, than I still don’t think it’s anyone’s business to change it.

          • Yumi
            Yumi
            December 23, 2021 at 12:24 am | #

            Oof. Yeah, I’ve had some shitty therapy experiences too. (Forever a little angry about the one who gave me a packet about “what it means to be a woman” while knowing I was nonbinary.)

            • The Wellerman
              The Wellerman
              December 23, 2021 at 12:30 am | #

              That must have been awful! 😣

              And yet more reason for me to be turned off of therapy.

              • Yumi
                Yumi
                December 23, 2021 at 12:36 am | #

                There are bad therapists out there, but there are also a lot of good ones. I’d probably be dead by now if I wasn’t seeing my current therapist (who, in a fun upgrade, not only gets nonbinary identities, but is nonbinary themself).

                It’s a process to find the right therapist, but I think it’s worth it. Can be a bit easier of a process if you know what you’re looking for going in.

                • The Wellerman
                  The Wellerman
                  December 23, 2021 at 12:42 am | #

                  True, I guess?

                  But of the ones I have tried, even when they weren’t being insensitive or even downright bigoted, just barely helped at all.

                  At least for now, I am quite reluctant to gamble on a crapshoot unto a tiny island within a sea of punishment.

                  Various hobbies and Tuca and Berty have been much more calming to me than any therapist I’ve met.

      • Âmę
        Âmę
        December 23, 2021 at 12:25 am | #

        On the squint test: https://digitalshiftmedia.com/marketing-term/the-squint-test/

      • powerpowerpow
        powerpowerpow
        December 23, 2021 at 11:21 am | #

        As she mentioned previously, both Joe and Ethan are tall and Jewish, so if she stares at Joe squinting she could mistake him for Ethan.

        • khn0
          khn0
          December 24, 2021 at 6:30 am | #

          Well I hope being jewish isn’t what she perceives by squinting, that’d be weird for black jews .

    • Rose by Any Other Name
      Rose by Any Other Name
      December 23, 2021 at 1:20 am | #

      C-

      • Rose by Any Other Name
        Rose by Any Other Name
        December 23, 2021 at 1:22 am | #

        …
        That didn’t come across, did it?

        Ahem.
        Okay, so what I was trying to do was put a C- stamp on the ‘An Attempt was Made’ line above, but it didn’t follow as clearly as I was hoping.
        Like, a C- for the attempt that was made. Cause it was a mediocre attempt at best.
        And now I’m explaining the joke.

        • The Wellerman
          The Wellerman
          December 23, 2021 at 1:26 am | #

          What curve was it graded on?

          HER curves? 😜

          • The Wellerman
            The Wellerman
            December 23, 2021 at 1:53 am | #

            At least your attempt at a joke didn’t fall as flat as mine 😔

        • zee
          zee
          December 23, 2021 at 9:32 am | #

          No it camw across pretty clearly

    • zee
      zee
      December 23, 2021 at 9:33 am | #

      Barely

  6. BBCC
    BBCC
    December 23, 2021 at 12:12 am | #

    Amber, you can’t speed run life. 😛

    • crow
      crow
      December 23, 2021 at 12:16 am | #

      You can if you want the bad ending

      • Svata
        Svata
        December 23, 2021 at 12:23 am | #

        there is no good ending.

        • Thag Simmons
          Thag Simmons
          December 23, 2021 at 12:48 am | #

          There’s better endings, at least

          • bemisawa
            bemisawa
            December 23, 2021 at 1:25 am | #

            …and I’m pretty sure that’s Existentialism in a nutshell? Maybe?

    • Rocket Relm
      Rocket Relm
      December 23, 2021 at 12:17 am | #

      She can, it’s just that resetting your game file is unheard of and she’s way too late to even touch the WR anyway.

      (alternative answer: Tier Zoo reference goes here)

  7. Lingo
    Lingo
    December 23, 2021 at 12:15 am | #

    Danny and Ethan kiss.
    Suddenly: ticking.
    Danny:
    “oh no–”
    BOOM!

    • King Daniel
      King Daniel
      December 23, 2021 at 12:31 am | #

      Alright, who told them the Steel Glass Test Chamber was a good makeout location?

      • 3oranges
        3oranges
        December 23, 2021 at 2:28 am | #

        Dina. She tried really hard to think of a more appropriate location, but that was the best she could do.

    • The Wellerman
      The Wellerman
      December 23, 2021 at 1:17 am | #

      Ticking?

      • King Daniel
        King Daniel
        December 23, 2021 at 1:40 am | #

        tick-tick-tick-tick-tick-tick-tick-ti-

        • The Wellerman
          The Wellerman
          December 23, 2021 at 1:43 am | #

          How did I misread that as tickling and type ticking? 😶

    • Kamino Neko
      Kamino Neko
      December 23, 2021 at 4:04 pm | #

      Danny and Ethan are Lemmings?

      • Opus the Poet
        Opus the Poet
        December 23, 2021 at 8:07 pm | #

        That’s an old reference. Igetthhatreference dot gif.

  8. crow
    crow
    December 23, 2021 at 12:16 am | #

    B

  9. newlland(Henryvolt)
    newlland(Henryvolt)
    December 23, 2021 at 12:19 am | #

    Wow Amber’s not being helpful at all today.

  10. Jamie
    Jamie
    December 23, 2021 at 12:21 am | #

    Amber, I’m confident that refreshing Twitter is easy enough that you can do it without looking at your phone.

    I mean. I might be wrong. I basically use Twitter by clicking on links every month or two and reading threads and then getting bored of what passes for content outside that thread.

  11. Robbie
    Robbie
    December 23, 2021 at 12:22 am | #

    Joe should have talked to Dina. I actually think that could have been helpful… Or not. Hard to say. But she’s pretty logical about that kind of thing and that might help.

    • anonymsly
      anonymsly
      December 23, 2021 at 12:31 am | #

      Joe’s pretty logical himself, or at least does better when he’s allowed to handle emotional stuff from an unemotional perspective. I think Dina would have been helpful too.

    • The Wellerman
      The Wellerman
      December 23, 2021 at 12:32 am | #

      If only he weren’t so intimidated after getting a glimpse of her powers. 😵‍💫

  12. Theozilla
    Theozilla
    December 23, 2021 at 12:43 am | #

    Though I don’t think Joyce quite qualifies as an “uncorrupted puppy dog” anymore.

    • alongcameaspider
      alongcameaspider
      December 23, 2021 at 12:57 am | #

      Yes but Amber doesn’t know that yet

    • Andy
      Andy
      December 23, 2021 at 7:26 am | #

      Eh, some things are more difficult to unlearn than others, and Joyce is clearly already having unlearning troubles given how hard she’s trying to be the opposite of her past self. I suspect that she wouldn’t even get as far as Liz got if Joe invited her to share his bed, assuming she even agreed to share anyone’s.

      • C.T. Phipps
        C.T. Phipps
        December 23, 2021 at 7:58 am | #

        Well atheism doesn’t mean corruption.

        She’s just a snooty jerk now.

    • Deanatay
      Deanatay
      December 23, 2021 at 8:55 am | #

      For an atheist, she’s still pretty pure.

      • Nova
        Nova
        December 23, 2021 at 12:51 pm | #

        “For an atheist”

        …Atheists aren’t any less moral, or good hearted and plenty of religious people are morally bankrupt with multiple affairs.

        You don’t need to add “for an atheist” and debating a woman’s purity is so disgusting I’m shocked there’s still internet here in the dark ages.

        • Spencer
          Spencer
          December 23, 2021 at 3:52 pm | #

          Like.

          I thought I was being kinda mean when I’d go “she was prettier when she smiled” in response to some of these Joyce takes as of late. Apparently I am not.

          • khn0
            khn0
            December 24, 2021 at 6:40 am | #

            I’m pretty shure Deanatay was not considering their own RL opinion of purity, but refering that in her old belief system, she couldn’t be pure AND atheist, whatever purity means.

  13. Nono
    Nono
    December 23, 2021 at 12:46 am | #

    You know the feeling when you talk to someone and it feels like you just have the same problems as last time?

    That’s Joe.

  14. Nono
    Nono
    December 23, 2021 at 12:48 am | #

    Actually, they never covered the issue of how Amber’s tuition got paid for, right?

    • Kirtro
      Kirtro
      December 23, 2021 at 12:50 am | #

      Guessing the step-dad is covering it

    • Zach
      Zach
      December 23, 2021 at 1:00 am | #

      Her dad was forced to pay for it, it’s why he wanted her out of college.

      • King Daniel
        King Daniel
        December 23, 2021 at 1:03 am | #

        Yeah, but it was specifically a plot point in Is A Song Forever? that as a result of Blaine’s death her source of college tuition no longer existed and thus her future attendance at all was in jeopardy.

      • alongcameaspider
        alongcameaspider
        December 23, 2021 at 1:53 am | #

        Her dad is very much not alive at this point

        Presumably Joe’s dad/Amber’s step-dad stepped in to continue her tuition

        • HeatherJean
          HeatherJean
          December 23, 2021 at 12:59 pm | #

          Are we sure Blaine’s dead? He seems the type you’d want to make sure is buried, and even then dig him up every couple of years to make sure he remains so.

          Maybe he’s in Witness Protection. With Mike.

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        December 23, 2021 at 5:59 am | #

        Blaine thought Amber wouldn’t attend college out of social fear, so he set the divorce terms up so he would pay for college in lieu of child support and/or alimony. Then the selfish prick tried to get Amber to drop out so he wouldn’t have to pay them anything at all.

        If he had a will, I bet he left them a token sum of $0.01, the mob squared their dealings up with his estate, and whatever’s left over went to Yuri and Faz.

  15. RassilonTDavros
    RassilonTDavros
    December 23, 2021 at 12:54 am | #

    Only just found out by checking the sidebar (I’m not on Twitter), but I wish you and your family a safe recovery. Hoping you’re okay!

    • King Daniel
      King Daniel
      December 23, 2021 at 1:04 am | #

      What?

      • Yumi
        Yumi
        December 23, 2021 at 1:07 am | #

        From Willis’s Twitter:
        https://twitter.com/damnyouwillis/status/1473709725757935624?s=20

        They and their family have COVID.

        • The Wellerman
          The Wellerman
          December 23, 2021 at 1:11 am | #

          😱😱😱

          I seriously hope they’re alright!

          Bizarre enough, I had a dream last night that I went on a field trip to HELL, which is just about what it feels like to NOT be able to taste mac and cheese. 😣

        • Norah
          Norah
          December 23, 2021 at 2:06 am | #

          Hope everyone will be ok.

        • Spencer
          Spencer
          December 23, 2021 at 6:01 am | #

          Ah, damn, that sucks. I hope everyone recovers promptly.

          This is the exact reason I cancelled seeing my grandma. I don’t have my booster, my grandma does not have her booster, and my sister is only getting her second dose on the 29th because she’s an antivax piece of shit and her new job won’t hire her unless she does it.

          • The Wellerman
            The Wellerman
            December 23, 2021 at 6:23 am | #

            Fuck! I didn’t know the vaccine denialist staircase had THAT many steps! 😵

            I can’t even get ANY vaccinations, and between this bullshit and Omicron, I am deeply afraid for myself and others. 😱

            *nearly passes out from dizzying anxiety*

          • JBento
            JBento
            December 23, 2021 at 6:47 am | #

            I got my booster this past Sunday. A potentially life-saving chemical with no downsides? Pump that shit straight into my veins, and it was so good I went back for seconds!

        • Thag Simmons
          Thag Simmons
          December 23, 2021 at 1:52 pm | #

          That really sucks and I hope they get better soon

    • Steamweed
      Steamweed
      December 23, 2021 at 2:07 am | #

      Same here! Mr. Willis, I hope you and family completely recover and as soon as possible. I had it the first go-round and don’t wish any variants on anyone. :O

    • JBento
      JBento
      December 23, 2021 at 6:45 am | #

      Oh no! I hope everyone recovers without any aftereffects of note.

    • Ana Chronistic
      Ana Chronistic
      December 23, 2021 at 8:01 pm | #

      Gah! I read the announcement through Kickstarter updates, and I completely forgot each time I came back to say something!

      Hope you and your family are doing better soon, Willis!

  16. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    December 23, 2021 at 1:07 am | #

    Poor Joe can’t catch a break today

  17. DojimaKojima
    DojimaKojima
    December 23, 2021 at 1:08 am | #

    I just realised, has amber not met atheist Joyce yet?

    • Slartibeast Button, BIA
      Slartibeast Button, BIA
      December 23, 2021 at 1:43 am | #

      Does Atheist Joyce have a costume?

      • michaelinasmeal
        michaelinasmeal
        December 23, 2021 at 1:47 am | #

        its a paid dlc cosmetic

  18. Rainhat
    Rainhat
    December 23, 2021 at 1:22 am | #

    Joe is having the most random day.

  19. Bagge
    Bagge
    December 23, 2021 at 1:38 am | #

    Is Amber just giving us cliff notes on the comic, now?

  20. Ailorn
    Ailorn
    December 23, 2021 at 2:01 am | #

    I don’t like Amber right now

    • Queezle
      Queezle
      December 23, 2021 at 4:10 am | #

      Currently I am flip flopping hard between just feeling very bad for her and thinking “Just shut up, Amber”. Sometimes both at the same time.

  21. V
    V
    December 23, 2021 at 2:10 am | #

    Interesting that Amber knows about the Joyce crush! We might think it’s obvious because, you know, we get to know about everything that’s happening, but I don’t think any other non-Joe character knows yet! There’s a strong likelihood Jacob picked up on it, but other than that?

    • Rainhat
      Rainhat
      December 23, 2021 at 9:18 am | #

      It’s shipping. Of course she picked up on it.

      • Seregiel
        Seregiel
        December 23, 2021 at 11:18 am | #

        She figured it out when Joe came to her room for advice on how to help Joyce and how flustered he got when Joyce also appeared. No shipping or convolution necessary.

    • Thag Simmons
      Thag Simmons
      December 23, 2021 at 1:43 pm | #

      Amber’s gotten much stronger hints than the rest, hell he’s more or less confessed to her about it

  22. Rabid Rabbit
    Rabid Rabbit
    December 23, 2021 at 2:38 am | #

    Dammit, Amber, you’re a comics nerd, you’re supposed to be better at wordplay than that.

    “Joyce is an uncorrupted puppy dog, and you’re an unreconstructed horndog.” It’s not that difficult!

    • RedCat
      RedCat
      December 23, 2021 at 2:09 pm | #

      Petition for Willis to hire you.

  23. Romanticide
    Romanticide
    December 23, 2021 at 2:42 am | #

    How was the rest of tuition paid for.?.. on a local private school there is a insurance in case parents die, but I have no idea if it covers suicides. And have no idea if this school covers that either..

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      December 23, 2021 at 2:47 am | #

      I bet Richard picked up the bill.

    • Jamie
      Jamie
      December 23, 2021 at 2:48 am | #

      I don’t remember Joedad’s profession (or name), but I got the impression he’s flush with legitimate money, and he’d definitely fund Amber’s education.

      • King Daniel
        King Daniel
        December 23, 2021 at 4:07 am | #

        He’s a medical osteologist, IIRC.

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        December 23, 2021 at 5:50 am | #

        He’s an orthopedic doctor or surgeon, I don’t remember exactly which. Naturally, it’s something to do with bones.

        Either way he’s making medical specialist money, he can afford two in-state tuitions at a state university (or he can at least tank the cost for a while, as long as he’s not overextended on lifestyle discretionary spending).

        • Wereg
          Wereg
          December 23, 2021 at 1:35 pm | #

          Seeing how he seems legitimately happy and fulfilled with Amber’s mom I’d reckon he’s probably chilled on the discretionary spending pretty hardcore. At least, he’s probably spending less on doing whatever with her than he was buying every female-presenting person at every bar in town a drink.

    • Seregiel
      Seregiel
      December 23, 2021 at 11:19 am | #

      I like to think the mob chipped in out of spite.

  24. RacingTurtle
    RacingTurtle
    December 23, 2021 at 3:08 am | #

    I’ve always liked Joe, but I think he’s currently my favorite character.

    I hope everyone at Casa de Willis gets back to tasting macaroni and cheese soon.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      December 23, 2021 at 5:54 am | #

      Same! Maybe that went because the cheese is a more subtle, savory flavor than the buckeye that punched its way through?

    • Spencer
      Spencer
      December 23, 2021 at 8:42 am | #

      My aesthetic is hot dudes who think they have life all figured out by never getting involved with anyone, then being blindsided by the slightest bit of genuine affection and they’re suddenly trying their damndest to give back in the same way without even understanding that they are.

      • Seregiel
        Seregiel
        December 23, 2021 at 11:24 am | #

        After conversations with many men, I have come to the conclusion that an overwhelming majority of are surprised by affection in even the most platonic capacities and most would probably commit murder for headrubs or a surprise token of some kind… and that’s really fucking depressing.

        • Spencer
          Spencer
          December 23, 2021 at 3:45 pm | #

          I mean, you’re hitting the bullseye.

          We’re taught that our only worth is in being thundering alpha chads, and that any deviation from this requires making up for it in enough ways that, should we fail, means we’re loser baby failures.

          Toxic masculinity isn’t just a personal failing, it’s something that gets entrenched into us and we barely have the words to describe it.

  25. Eldritchy
    Eldritchy
    December 23, 2021 at 4:37 am | #

    Huh, I guess Amber didn’t interact with Joyce recently.

  26. heliska
    heliska
    December 23, 2021 at 6:05 am | #

    Joyce, Walky, Dorothy, now Amber… All my favourite characters have become pretty insufferable these last few weeks. Joe, I count on you now. Don’t betray me.

    • AGV
      AGV
      December 23, 2021 at 10:03 am | #

      What has Dorothy done, besides staying on brand

      • Spencer
        Spencer
        December 23, 2021 at 10:29 am | #

        That’s what makes it compelling drama!

        Dorothy is trying to help Joyce the same way she has helped every other time: patiently explaining the terminology of something Joyce doesn’t understand. Unfortunately for her, the current problem is not one she can just recite a textbook over and it’s totally beyond her power to actually help Joyce using what’s always worked, but she doesn’t get that yet; she doesn’t get that Joyce is going through a chaotic spiral of feelings and resentment that Dorothy trying to boil down to “stop being problematic” can’t solve.

        It’s gucci.

        • Needfuldoer
          Needfuldoer
          December 23, 2021 at 9:19 pm | #

          That’s just it, Dorothy only has a textbook understanding of where Joyce is coming from. She can’t understand Joyce’s fundagelical upbringing the way someone who lived it can.

          That’s why Joyce reveled in having Liz around, and why she needs to get back in simpatico with Becky.

      • heliska
        heliska
        December 24, 2021 at 8:32 am | #

        Having a holier-than-you, know-it-all attitude about the Joyce situation instead of trying to understand and empathize with her feelings.

  27. JBento
    JBento
    December 23, 2021 at 6:48 am | #

    That’s a solid core you got for the dialogue there, Amber, pity you bookended it with absolute shit.

  28. someone
    someone
    December 23, 2021 at 8:23 am | #

    No, Joyce has become a slimeball (due to Liz) and Joe has become a puppy dog (due to Liz).

    • Spencer
      Spencer
      December 23, 2021 at 8:40 am | #

      Joyce becoming a slimeball because she finally had the chance to express her hate for her death cult is already kinda funny, but the prospect that Liz somehow did wrong by Joe is on a level that I can’t even.

      • Wereg
        Wereg
        December 23, 2021 at 1:38 pm | #

        I don’t think they were saying that Liz did wrong by Joe, but more that the interaction with Liz had a substantial effect on Joe. That whole situation was pretty harrowing for both Joe and Liz.

        Not throwing any shade at Liz because she pulled back and acted in a very understandable way, but her reaction clearly messed with Joe’s perception of himself.

        • someone
          someone
          December 23, 2021 at 4:49 pm | #

          Indeed. I’m not faulting Liz for how she acted, merely remarking on how she served as a catalyst for Joe’s sudden soul-searching and Joyce’s breaking out of her old social persona into one that’s a lot more abrasive.

          • Spencer
            Spencer
            December 23, 2021 at 8:24 pm | #

            Okay but she’s abrasive because she grew up in a death cult. That’s not being a slimeball.

      • RedCat
        RedCat
        December 23, 2021 at 2:07 pm | #

        Liz did nothing wrong, I don’t think that was ever insinuated. But Liz had an effect on two people, in different ways (as they had their effect on her, too), and the funny part is that they switches descriptions (although I don’t really agree with it, that was the joke here, I believe).

  29. Rabisch
    Rabisch
    December 23, 2021 at 8:24 am | #

    HOORAY! Amber thinks Joe’s father is a good father figure to her and a good husband to her mother♡! And these are the only good things she said here… Poor Joe, her new sister is already very good at pushing him down all the time. Showing him, very cynically, his problems and overwhelming him with her problems and an almost infinite number of words, that you never know what to say.

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      December 23, 2021 at 11:40 am | #

      She didn’t say “good”. She said “better”.

      That bar is very low.

      • Rabisch
        Rabisch
        December 23, 2021 at 3:06 pm | #

        You’re right. But it’s still à good point for Joe’s father.

  30. SlothfulCobra
    SlothfulCobra
    December 23, 2021 at 8:30 am | #

    Joyce has been corrupted and Joe 8s reeling from being used for hus horny and treated like a slimeball.

  31. Kitsune
    Kitsune
    December 23, 2021 at 8:55 am | #

    Horndog is a fair cop, but if he were a slimeball, he would’t be depressed ight now.

    • Jamie
      Jamie
      December 23, 2021 at 3:03 pm | #

      Well, Joe’s problem is specifically that he thinks he’s a slimeball.

  32. Keulen
    Keulen
    December 23, 2021 at 9:49 am | #

    Joe really could use someone he could talk about his issues with, but I definitely think Amber is not that person.

    • Rabisch
      Rabisch
      December 23, 2021 at 9:57 am | #

      Danny is waiting that moment since their childhood.

      • AGV
        AGV
        December 23, 2021 at 10:05 am | #

        Maybe if Joe’s exasperated enough he will take that offer

  33. AGV
    AGV
    December 23, 2021 at 10:06 am | #

    You’re depressed, Amber. You don’t need a reason to feel bad.

  34. Rani
    Rani
    December 23, 2021 at 10:23 am | #

    Hot take: I’m starting to see a non-trivial amount of Blaine in Amber right now.

    • Spencer
      Spencer
      December 23, 2021 at 10:31 am | #

      … in what regard?

      Because the way she treated Danny that one (1, singular) time while freaking the eff out over Sal, yeah I get that, but I dunno where it is here.

      • AGV
        AGV
        December 23, 2021 at 11:18 am | #

        Maybe in the sense that she’s being overly pragmatic in how she views things, esp people

        • Thag Simmons
          Thag Simmons
          December 23, 2021 at 1:56 pm | #

          “Pragmatic” is not a word I would use to describe Blaine.

      • Rani
        Rani
        December 23, 2021 at 11:58 am | #

        Before the time skip there were plenty of red flags. Flipping the table at Ethan, the overall treatment of Danny and total lack of empathy towards him even during their relationship (he has trouble keeping up with my alters while I simultaneously deny I have a problem? FUCK HIM) and afterwards. The casual way she threatened Ruth when Ruth tried to reason with her during the kidnapping arc. She even hallucinated Blaine p much acknowledging that she was aware of this part of her.

        After the time skip, the picture has darkened. Her main alter has outright complained about not being able to objectify or exploit people if she believes its harmless. It is hard to put into words just how many layers of fucked up was her dialog with Ethan. She shamelessly sexually harassed Danny out of nowhere and in front of his new gf and seems to want to break them up. Don’t even get me started on this shit with Joe now.

        If you were reading this arc out of context, at best she would be getting Faz levels of heat. At worst, we would be talking about the creepy stalker ex who is angsting because she can’t find a tall Jewish guy to complain about a perfectly wholesome interracial relationship to. And that pretty guys won’t fuck for her pleasure.

        Also she has a history of extreme violence.

        • RedCat
          RedCat
          December 23, 2021 at 2:05 pm | #

          Still don’t think it’s fair to say she’s like Blaine, she’s like that largely BECAUSE of him. Traumatized people don’t always work out their problems in healthy ways, obviously.
          She’s not like Blaine, she’s like Amber.

          • Rani
            Rani
            December 23, 2021 at 2:41 pm | #

            I didn’t say she’s like Blaine. I said shes beginning to act like him. I’m noting the trajectory, not the position.

            • Spencer
              Spencer
              December 23, 2021 at 3:42 pm | #

              Okay but “acting like Blaine” is a pretty specific course of actions that she’s engaged in once, at her lowest.

              Like, a victim of lifelong abuse can do wrong and that action doesn’t need to be directly linked to their abuser. That is a thing I currently theorize of Becky, for example, in that I think there’s a subtext of a rigid Wrong/Right party to her arguments which is how she was raised by her dad and from there I think it bleeds into how she’s treating Joyce’s atheism as a personal betrayal, but I’m pretty sure Blaine never got mad he couldn’t see hot dudes fuck.

              • Rani
                Rani
                December 23, 2021 at 4:25 pm | #

                Also if you’re going to nitpick my statement, at least find the right nits to pick. My specific words were “I’m starting to see a non-trivial amount of Blaine in Amber right now.” I wasn’t necessarily pointing to a list of things Blaine did and demonstrate Amber was doing them too. Just that Blaine is typified by a pattern of antisocial behavior that disregards the needs of others and prioritizes his own pleasure over all other considerations.

                • Spencer
                  Spencer
                  December 23, 2021 at 7:07 pm | #

                  Just that Blaine is typified by a pattern of antisocial behavior that disregards the needs of others and prioritizes his own pleasure over all other considerations.

                  This part and its thought process is what I’m objecting to. A “disregard for the needs of others and prioritizes his own pleasure over all other considerations” is wildly vague in relation to the specific topic of “Amber beginning to act like Blaine.”

                  Blaine wasn’t acting in prioritization of his own pleasure, he was acting out out of a prioritization of his own inherent superiority to his daughter and his wife, and that their defiance to him was in defiance of his fundamental right to do with them as they please. Extremely tellingly to the question of Amber acting in relation to Blaine, Amber feels weird on reflection for her behaviour, said behaviour being something she previously could rely on to bypass all her guilt complexes.

                  In this specific context, the two of them could only be tied together by virtue of Amber doing a thing she wants at the expense of someone being hurt.

                • Rani
                  Rani
                  December 23, 2021 at 7:33 pm | #

                  …the antisocial tendency IS the thing I’m reacting to, yes. It’s a really troubling development by itself.

                • Spencer
                  Spencer
                  December 23, 2021 at 8:11 pm | #

                  Okay but there’s lots of ways to display a troubling antisocial tendency without it connecting to her abusive father, especially when her troubling antisocial tendencies are not at all like Blaine’s.

                • The Wellerman
                  The Wellerman
                  December 23, 2021 at 11:57 pm | #

                  Very interesting thread.

                  When I look at analysis of personal history and it’s impact like this, I just can’t help but think of something I read in my Critical Thinking class concerning history in general.

                  According to social historian Isiah Berlin, there are two kinds of thinkers when it comes to history — Hedgehogs and Foxes.

                  Hedgehogs know “one big thing” and have a theory about the world, and try to account for events in a coherent framework, are impatient with those who don’t see things their way, and confident in their predictions. For hedgehogs, predictions are almost always “nearly right” or “just off timing”. The media especially LOVES it when hedgehogs fight each other on camera in so-called “debates”.

                  Foxes, in contrast, are complex thinkers. They don’t think that one big thing drives the march of history (for instance, they aren’t likely to think that military spending alone ended the Great Depression). Instead, Foxes recognize that reality emerges from the interactions of MANY different agents and causes, including blind luck, often producing large and unpredictable outcomes.

                  I suspect that an individual’s PERSONAL history shouldn’t be treated any differently.

        • Jamie
          Jamie
          December 23, 2021 at 3:06 pm | #

          I’d disagree. Amber is her own brand of terrible. The anger and casual threats are Blaine-like, yes, but the self-loathing and sexual harassment are not.

          Amber doesn’t get to blame others for this.

  35. Beau Kirin Maysey
    Beau Kirin Maysey
    December 23, 2021 at 11:29 am | #

    So startlingly close to a revelation, only to swing away at the last second, like a frightened bird…

  36. RedCat
    RedCat
    December 23, 2021 at 2:03 pm | #

    Joe, please find someone else to talk to, someone who actually pays attention and can maybe give advice.

  37. Decidedly Orthogonal
    Decidedly Orthogonal
    December 23, 2021 at 2:51 pm | #

    Having just got mine, I have now realized that Willis is clearly part of the Liberal Illuminati Lizard People kNowing Every Evil Nazi Secret (lil’peeps). Obviously they knew in advance that we would need a third round vaccine and so they introduced a likable goof in Booster to get us to like the idea in advance.

    Thanks for helping me get 5g DyW!

    • Decidedly Orthogonal
      Decidedly Orthogonal
      December 23, 2021 at 2:52 pm | #

      Well, that acronym _clearly_ didn’t work. Back to sleep. 😅

      • someone
        someone
        December 23, 2021 at 4:52 pm | #

        I thought you were going for “lil peens” but that isn’t it either.

  38. LiterallyJustSomeGuy
    LiterallyJustSomeGuy
    December 23, 2021 at 3:06 pm | #

    Amber. Amber, no. Amber, why.

    Please let Joe participate in the conversation.

  39. kater
    kater
    December 23, 2021 at 5:52 pm | #

    I like this dynamic

  40. Josh Spicer
    Josh Spicer
    December 23, 2021 at 7:57 pm | #

    Joe: Hey I have some actual plot and character development to talk about no–

    Amber: Yeah, but where’s MINE at?

    Joe: Amber you had like two or three arcs about i–

    Amber: Yeah but what about NOW?

  41. Alaric
    Alaric
    December 23, 2021 at 8:50 pm | #

    …How can Amber not have the skill of refreshing twitter WHILE making small talk?!

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      December 23, 2021 at 9:26 pm | #

      She’s very good at twitter, but small talk is hard and takes all of her concentration.

      • Wereg
        Wereg
        December 23, 2021 at 11:14 pm | #

        Especially when she’s the one doing all the talking. Not that Joe has had much of a say in the matter.

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mel~ @mel.bzky.team ⋅ 8h
happy pride everyone🙏😊
tweet reading gf sat on my face too hard and broke my nech pls send prayers for my speedy recovery over a picture of someone looking very happy while wearing a neck brace
headline reading man gives blowjob to 10 inch penis and ends up in the ER with a ruptured airway featuring an image of a very jolly looking fella
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 16h
by god belle is gonna EARN that emmy
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 16h
Dumbing of Age: "Lockscreen" www.dumbingofage.com/2025/comic/b... #webcomics #webcomic
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Lockscreen
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 16h
when "online retailer" assumes you live in a sliding timescale and wants to make sure your emails remain culturally relevant years into the future
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 19h
An appropriate day to open Hashtag, who was having sapphic roommate dreams about lady Seekers five minutes after being born.
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
today in #9chickweedlane i learned that, yes, lolly is so edda 2.0 that she's even wearing her mother's wedding dress as she gets married to Her Dad (But Taller)
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
Buy my MPM-3 Bumblebee! Opened, displayed, re-unopened, complete with instructions ebay.us/m/a4Y4Kt
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Vangelus @vangelus.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
check out my original angle photos of ss86 megatron, source unknown and unimportant
ss86 megatron, shot in vertical in a mad seething panic by a severe incompetent
ss86 megatron, shot in vertical in a mad seething panic by a severe incompetent
ss86 megatron, shot in vertical in a mad seething panic by a severe incompetent
ss86 megatron, shot in vertical in a mad seething panic by a severe incompetent
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Tommy Valdez @thomasav.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
Target's 2025 Pride Collection
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Tim Onion @bencollins.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
header image - Target Scales Back Pride Section To Single T-Shirt Saying They’d Do A Threesome With A Girl For Their Boyfriend’s Birthday
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Target Scales Back Pride Section To Single T-Shirt Saying They’d Do A Threesome With A Girl For Their Boyfriend’s Birthday
MINNEAPOLIS—Responding to conservative backlash over a large selection of offerings for the month of June, Target announced Friday that they would scale back their gay pride section to a single t-shir...
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Jules Effin Rivera @lovejoolz.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
Happy Pride! Here's the comic where I come out as a Disaster Pansexual *and* Animal Crossing Weirdo
Love, Joolz comic
Panel 1
Jules and Blackbird chilling on the couch. 
J: I'm going to my friend's Pride March in Animal crossing! Time to make a cool outfit that show off my cousins. 
B: But you already have Disaster Bisexual outfits in Animal Crossing. 
Panel 2
Jules attempts to sew a dress in the Pansexual colors.
J: I am not a disaster bisexual. I'm Pansexual.
B: What's the difference? 
J: Getting horny for way more options.
Panel 3
Blackbird flutters agitatedly at Jules, who struggles with the sewing machine. 
B: Jules you're running out of time! 
J: It's fine! I can get the dress done in time!
B: We gotta go! 
J: It's fine! I can get the dress done in time! 
B: We gotta go! We're gonna miss the march! 
J: It's fine it's fine it's fine it's--
Panel 4: 
Jules and Blackbird at the Animal Crossing Pride parade. Blackbird is in a cap with Trans flag colors and a shirt with a rainbow pattern. Jules is in a suit with a bow tie and a froggie hat. She looks a mess. 
B: Jesus God, you really are a disaster bisexual. 
J: Disaster Pansexual.
B: Right. 
B: Jesus God
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
tfw the secret ingredient definitely isn't poison
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sarahquaint @sarahquaint.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
Can we get a license for an additional official if we pay the processing fee and donate the harvest to a food bank?
kendrawcandraw.bsky.social's user avatarKendra, regular version @kendrawcandraw.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
Every queer person gets to kill and eat one(1) sitting US official this month
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Ryan North @ryannorth.ca ⋅ 1d
by carefully mixing 10% cream with 1% skim milk, you can unlock forbidden milk percentages the government doesn't want you to know about, like 7.725%
some milk I used to make Forbidden Percentages. I didn't mention 2% in my post though. I gotta keep some secrets
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
online transformers collectors: i hope ss86 megatron doesn't have big ol' treads on his back!!! ss86 megatron: *treads fold up inside the legs* online transformers collectors: HIS LEGS ARE TOO CHUNKY >>>:((((
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
Dumbing of Age: "Sweet prank" www.dumbingofage.com/2025/comic/b... #webcomics #webcomic
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Sweet prank
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
View AND change this, if we were talking quantum mechanics
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Micah @rincewind.run ⋅ 2d
the big disconnect that happens here is between the correct message for D politicians (especially in red states), which is “you’re right, this isn’t who you are, you’re better than that, vote differently next time” and the actual truth, which is yes you did, fuck you
kevinbuist.com's user avatarKevin Buist @kevinbuist.com ⋅ 2d
Yes, you did vote to deport moms.
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
Raw milk has the opportunity to do the funniest thing
fangferric.bsky.social's user avatarFerric Fang @fangferric.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
RFK Jr celebrated the release of the MAHA report by downing raw milk shooters in the White House with influencer Paul Saladino. Hazards of raw milk include Listeria, Salmonella, Campylobacter, Yersinia, E. coli O157:H7, and now-- avian flu.
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
maggie, reading a strip from a year from now: oh this is so obnoxious, i love it she gets me
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
Today in #9ChickweedLane I learned it's nice to see Walter Bubbletea, 80-year-old fiance to someone roughly 20, talk to someone his own age.
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