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May 12, 2026

Bathroom

by David M Willis on June 4, 2023 at 12:01 am
  • 04 – But Don't Give Yourself Away
└ Tags: carol, joe, joyce

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  1. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    June 4, 2023 at 12:01 am | #

    Sympathy via large contact

    ♥

    • Dsr667
      Dsr667
      June 4, 2023 at 1:35 am | #

      It’s like thermal pads and paste for computers, the larger the contact area, the better it transfers warmth.

    • Matthew Davis
      Matthew Davis
      June 4, 2023 at 3:13 am | #

      Actually, this makes me wonder — over/under on a Dina encounter? Amber would just ignore Carol or snark at her (more likely the former but maybe the latter since she’s trying to build a relationship with Joe in her own weird way), but Dina could be interesting narratively.

      • Masumi
        Masumi
        June 4, 2023 at 6:12 am | #

        I feel like Dina might just nope out. Joyce finally stopped believing unreasonable things, and now an infinitely worse version of beginning_of_semester!Joyce shows up? Doesn’t seem worth spending energy on.

      • Scoops!
        Scoops!
        June 4, 2023 at 9:14 pm | #

        You assume Dina hasn’t been here all along.

        • Wizard
          Wizard
          June 5, 2023 at 8:47 am | #

          True, it’s pretty much established that Dina is Schrodinger’s dinosaur, both behind and not behind every door until someone collapses the waveform by actually looking.

      • RoyanRannedos
        RoyanRannedos
        June 5, 2023 at 11:56 am | #

        Put me down for $20 on a resonating HOMPK! from the bathroom.

    • ValdVin
      ValdVin
      June 4, 2023 at 6:10 am | #

      Hug any harder and that fire alarm will go off.

  2. NGPZ
    NGPZ
    June 4, 2023 at 12:02 am | #

    awe. sympathy via physical contact 🥺

    • RassilonTDavros
      RassilonTDavros
      June 4, 2023 at 12:14 am | #

      sympathy via heavy physical contact and much weeping and gnashing of teeth

  3. shadowcell
    shadowcell
    June 4, 2023 at 12:02 am | #

    Dumbing of Age Book 13: Your Mom is Looking Pretty Good

    • Ryan
      Ryan
      June 4, 2023 at 12:39 am | #

      I think that would be for book 60, but the line has been burned.

  4. Shitbird
    Shitbird
    June 4, 2023 at 12:03 am | #

    I hope she leaves and never returns ever.

    • True Survivor
      True Survivor
      June 4, 2023 at 12:05 am | #

      You ever play Ghost Busters: The Video Game? It had a cursed toilet that drowned people as a collectible. That game scared me silly as a kid.

    • Kyrik Michalowski
      Kyrik Michalowski
      June 4, 2023 at 12:05 am | #

      While that would be ideal, Willis is far too cruel a god to let us off that easy.

    • Dara
      Dara
      June 4, 2023 at 12:16 am | #

      She wanders into a real-life game of Oops! All CHUDs! and is never heard from again. Everybody wins!

    • Angel
      Angel
      June 4, 2023 at 12:26 am | #

      well , if it is 100% autobiographical, she would die at some point but i don’t think she’d die ‘on screen’/within this year

      https://itswalky.tumblr.com/post/185450907842/this-is-todays-dumbing-of-age-strip-my-mothers

      • HueSatLight
        HueSatLight
        June 4, 2023 at 7:50 am | #

        Not 100% autobiographical. But yes, all the characters would die at some point because of mortality.

        • Needfuldoer
          Needfuldoer
          June 4, 2023 at 8:51 am | #

          You say that like Carla won’t figure out how to dump her brain into a supercomputer before then.

          • Peep
            Peep
            June 4, 2023 at 10:25 am | #

            Carla dumping her brain into a computer and taking the form of her favorite cartoon character, Ultra Car, would certainly make for a neat parallel with Shortpacked!

          • HueSatLight
            HueSatLight
            June 4, 2023 at 12:23 pm | #

            The heat death of the universe will come for Carla… unless she answers “The Last Question”.

            • Benjamin Geiger
              Benjamin Geiger
              June 4, 2023 at 1:31 pm | #

              INSUFFICIENT DATA FOR MEANINGFUL ANSWER

              • Slartibeast Button, BIA
                Slartibeast Button, BIA
                June 4, 2023 at 3:18 pm | #

                I saw that planetarium show!

      • Twitcher
        Twitcher
        June 4, 2023 at 12:44 pm | #

        What if she dies while Joyce is in college, for extra pathos?

  5. StClair
    StClair
    June 4, 2023 at 12:03 am | #

    Joe is doing this right.
    (Okay, the last panel is a little iffy, but he’s got a point.)

    • TulipKitten
      TulipKitten
      June 4, 2023 at 12:14 am | #

      I mean, if you think about it, Joyce is gonna look a lot like her mom with her dad’s hair and eyes. Minus the total batshit.

      • Dara
        Dara
        June 4, 2023 at 12:17 am | #

        Batshittery ages people. Or turns them into plastic. Mostly, though, ages them. I think Joyce’ll do pretty well.

    • GholaHalleck
      GholaHalleck
      June 4, 2023 at 12:20 am | #

      Zapped Joyce right out of her sadness spiral though.

      • justin8448
        justin8448
        June 4, 2023 at 12:27 am | #

        Joyce can have a little sadness. You know, as a treat.

      • Steamweed
        Steamweed
        June 4, 2023 at 12:38 am | #

        She will probably get back into it soon enough. During the next alone, quiet time.

    • Furie
      Furie
      June 4, 2023 at 3:33 am | #

      Joe at this point is basically me in college to a spooky level. Played into the ropes of who he thought he had to be. Realised he doesn’t really want to be that. Starting to find who he really is. It’s important to him that people know what he’s thinking and stop assuming things about him, because those assumptions inevitably are things he’s making an effort to move away from. It hurts to know that people think those things about you, so you kind of forcibly show your progress for a while. Sadly I think he may be drawn to Joyce as a safe space where he’s unlikely to have the opportunity to fall back into actions he’s trying to move away from and a shortcut to some imagined purity level he feels he must attain. And that’s something he’ll grow out of, although the way time passes in the comic it may be 2030 before he does.

  6. Kyrik Michalowski
    Kyrik Michalowski
    June 4, 2023 at 12:04 am | #

    This was almost a perfectly wholesome moment, then Joe had to be Joe.

    Guess I can’t blame him, when I do something I too follow the pattern of, Kyrik being Kyrik

    • RowenMorland
      RowenMorland
      June 4, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

      At least she knows that if he didn’t say “I could do her as a MILF and then later as a GILF; with a little work.” he probably didn’t think it.

      • Kyrik Michalowski
        Kyrik Michalowski
        June 4, 2023 at 12:30 am | #

        And for that we are thankful that he did not think about it.

    • Opus the Poet
      Opus the Poet
      June 4, 2023 at 1:22 am | #

      TBH when I was pursuing my wife, saying your Mom looks pretty good, so you should also look pretty good at her age and beyond was generally taken as a complement.

    • Pylgrim
      Pylgrim
      June 4, 2023 at 5:03 am | #

      I mean, Joyce is not sad anymore.

  7. Switchchris
    Switchchris
    June 4, 2023 at 12:05 am | #

    Gilf? More like Gilttiawc, Aka Grandma I’d Like To Throw In A Wood Chipper.

    • Felian
      Felian
      June 4, 2023 at 7:04 am | #

      interesting idea.

  8. Doctor_Who
    Doctor_Who
    June 4, 2023 at 12:05 am | #

    Joe: I’m just saying, I watched the entirely of The Golden Girls, and…

    Joyce: Joe.

    Joe: I’m mean, Dorothy, obviously, then Rose and Blanche tied for second…

    Joyce: Joe.

    Joe: Might need a few drinks in me before I’d go for Sophia, but…

    Joyce: Joe.

    • BarerMender
      BarerMender
      June 4, 2023 at 12:13 am | #

      Nuts to Dorothy and Rose. Blanche was the milf of ages.

      • GholaHalleck
        GholaHalleck
        June 4, 2023 at 12:19 am | #

        Rose has a higher body count, I cackled.

        • Benjamin Geiger
          Benjamin Geiger
          June 4, 2023 at 1:36 pm | #

          “Oh, come on, Blanche, how can you say that? So the woman had fifty-six boyfriends in one year. She’s not a slut.”

          “Thank you, Dorothy.”

          “She is THE slut! She is the Grand Poobah of slutdom! She is the easiest woman in this room!”

          “Dorothy Zbornak, you take that back!”

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7cJMqBMFR0

      • Laura
        Laura
        June 4, 2023 at 12:21 am | #

        Oh, no no no! Didn’t you see the episode where Rose becomes the crush object of Blanche’s lesbian friend? Hott hott hott!

        • BarerMender
          BarerMender
          June 4, 2023 at 1:26 am | #

          Nope. I only saw a few episodes.

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        June 4, 2023 at 7:08 am | #

        Rue McClanahan was younger than Carol is when The Golden Girls ended in 1992.

    • Moon
      Moon
      June 4, 2023 at 12:14 am | #

      i agree dorothy was indeed a gilf

    • Furie
      Furie
      June 4, 2023 at 3:35 am | #

      Dorothy listed first. A man of culture, I see. Let these common Blanche-ites balk at your choices even as they chase only what they feel is free for all.

    • Deviant
      Deviant
      June 4, 2023 at 7:18 am | #

      Huh. Why are so many DoA charachters named the same as the Golden Girls?

      • DailyBrad
        DailyBrad
        June 4, 2023 at 9:43 pm | #

        Here’s hoping Joyce doesn’t get Doctor Budd for her autism diagnosis.

  9. BBCC
    BBCC
    June 4, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

    Joe’s getting her mind off it! He’s doing his best.

    • HueSatLight
      HueSatLight
      June 4, 2023 at 12:08 am | #

      comfort through mildly inappropriate humor.

      • Suzi
        Suzi
        June 4, 2023 at 12:48 am | #

        It’s the only way Joe knows.

        (I am also Joe).

      • Caninse
        Caninse
        June 4, 2023 at 10:10 am | #

        Honestly, a fully effective way to help someone when you don’t have the chance to just bawl it out.

  10. newlland(Henryvolt)
    newlland(Henryvolt)
    June 4, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

    I can’t tell was this the right time and place? I wasn’t totally shocked by that one, and also as mad as I am at Carol…Joe ain’t totally wrong.

  11. fireprincesslily
    fireprincesslily
    June 4, 2023 at 12:07 am | #

    Joe doing his best, he’s only not been his worst for like a few days. So cutting him some slack.

    • Bryy
      Bryy
      June 4, 2023 at 12:23 am | #

      I love Joe’s response of “your murderer mom can get over it or die”.

    • hedgie
      hedgie
      June 4, 2023 at 1:45 pm | #

      He is growing on me. But so do tumours, so that’s not necessarily a good thing.

      Joking aside, it’s obvious that he really does care about Joyce. Whether or not he avoids screwing things up horribly is still up in the air, but he has good motivation to try and do right.

  12. Stephen Bierce
    Stephen Bierce
    June 4, 2023 at 12:08 am | #

    *plays “200 Balloons” from the Batdance CD/Batman 1989 soundtrack on the hacked Muzak*

    • NGPZ
      NGPZ
      June 4, 2023 at 12:14 am | #

      thanks Mr Bierce! this is just what I need to numb my brain and relax out of necessity before I attempt an incredibly queer culinary feat!

      • missilentmurmur
        missilentmurmur
        June 4, 2023 at 3:58 am | #

        Like, doing the dishes?

        • NGPZ
          NGPZ
          June 4, 2023 at 4:29 am | #

          Rainbow Chicken! Or rather, brown colorslop chicken, damn. Still tastes good tho. 😅😋

  13. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    June 4, 2023 at 12:08 am | #

    No, No Joe’s right. I wouldn’t kick Carol out of bed, at least.

    • Yumi
      Yumi
      June 4, 2023 at 12:09 am | #

      I’d have a lot of questions about we ended up in the same bed, probably.

      • Sirksome
        Sirksome
        June 4, 2023 at 5:11 am | #

        Never talk about religion and she might be okay to be around in small doses…maybe. Like if you keep the topic on something safe, like baking, you could possibly make it to the bed before terms like “woke” start setting off red flags.

        • Yotomoe
          Yotomoe
          June 4, 2023 at 11:30 am | #

          She has like 4-5 kids so she must’ve been doing something right.

    • BarerMender
      BarerMender
      June 4, 2023 at 12:14 am | #

      Not out of bed. But downstairs.

  14. HueSatLight
    HueSatLight
    June 4, 2023 at 12:10 am | #

    I wonder if Malaya has class on Friday morning.

  15. kraenieldamage
    kraenieldamage
    June 4, 2023 at 12:10 am | #

    Ok, I am prepared for hate to come my way for this, but in a way it was kinda nice that Joe said that her mom looked good for 60. He just told her the two things that have hit her out of nowhere, things that are big after saying that her mom is going to die (in a joking way of course). Regardless of how Joyce feels about her mother in this moment, I don’t think she would wish her to be dead. Maybe Joe was overcompensating and it just came out in a very… hit on the mom way?

    • Laura
      Laura
      June 4, 2023 at 12:17 am | #

      Where is Mike and his nickels when we need him?

      • Clif
        Clif
        June 4, 2023 at 4:18 am | #

        Always a pertinent question.

      • Sye
        Sye
        June 5, 2023 at 7:16 am | #

        Banging all the moms that have passed beyond this earthly, mortal coil, of course.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      June 4, 2023 at 7:04 am | #

      Joe hit a “reverse course and overcompensate” resonance frequency, and amplified back and forth a couple times before he got back on track.

      A conversational tank slapper, if you will.

  16. Bryy
    Bryy
    June 4, 2023 at 12:10 am | #

    WHAT’S SHE GOING TO FIND IN THE BATHATHROOM HMMMMM?

    • RassilonTDavros
      RassilonTDavros
      June 4, 2023 at 12:12 am | #

      …i mean, the only person she could find in the bathroom that would actually lead to any drama would be carla

      and i’m really hoping carla never has to meet carol in her life

      • GholaHalleck
        GholaHalleck
        June 4, 2023 at 12:17 am | #

        Carla would destroy her.

      • Bryy
        Bryy
        June 4, 2023 at 12:29 am | #

        The bathroom panel, I’m only assuming, is not there just for dialogue.

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          June 4, 2023 at 10:01 am | #

          It could just be to give Joe and Joyce a moment, but there could definitely be more to it.

      • HueSatLight
        HueSatLight
        June 4, 2023 at 12:47 am | #

        Malaya shares Joyce’s half-bath.

      • Abel Undercity
        Abel Undercity
        June 4, 2023 at 8:07 am | #

        Suddenly I am convinced that a Carla encounter is imminent.

    • Alongcameaspider
      Alongcameaspider
      June 4, 2023 at 12:16 am | #

      Joyce hid her birth control pills so nothing of Joyce’s hopefully

      Though if Sarah left Other Jacob out that might cause drama

      • JessWitt
        JessWitt
        June 4, 2023 at 12:48 am | #

        I was gonna say Other Jacob too. Although I’m hoping Carol’s just as naive as her daughter and mistakes it for a nose cleaner or a light saber.

    • Taffy
      Taffy
      June 4, 2023 at 2:06 am | #

      Becky forgot to flush. But it’s not actually anything gross, it’s just a compressed .jpg of Xehanort Kingdomhearts she had Dorothy print out for her.

  17. RassilonTDavros
    RassilonTDavros
    June 4, 2023 at 12:10 am | #

    *crosses fingers for a flashback to joe’s parents’ divorce*

  18. Koms
    Koms
    June 4, 2023 at 12:10 am | #

    I’m sorry but the second panel is just so funny.. you didn’t have to call her a grandma 😆

    • Angel
      Angel
      June 4, 2023 at 12:27 am | #

      lol i wonder how many ppl have made that mistake before. tho among some friends i’m sure some would say that on purpose to get under older ppl’s nerves

      • zee
        zee
        June 5, 2023 at 9:06 am | #

        I get it a lot, my mom was also 60 around when i started college. People also mistook my brother for my dad when i was a kid, he’s only 14 years older so i joked that something must’ve gone seriously wrong

    • Nerrin
      Nerrin
      June 4, 2023 at 1:27 am | #

      Given Joyce is the youngest of… what, again, five? with a decent age spread, and the kind of attitudes the Brown siblings have almost certainly been raised with, it’s a little surprising that Carol isn’t a grandma yet from at least one of them. 60 is actually pretty late to not be a grandmother with that many kids who are all adults now in a subculture that strongly demands settling down and pumping them out.

      • BBCC
        BBCC
        June 4, 2023 at 2:23 am | #

        Well, their oldest, John, only just got married recently so they have time.

        Jordan doesn’t speak to his parents so even if he DOES have children now, Carol has no access to them and may not even know.

        Jocelyne is only a relatively recent graduate who is still establishing herself – and also her parents don’t know she’s a ‘her’. That’ll put a damper on the relationship eventually. But yeah, he’s still young enough that it’s not weird he’s not married yet.

        Now in Walkyverse, we have no idea what her extra two brothers’ deal was but we know Carol gave up on them having kids eventually.

        • BBCC
          BBCC
          June 4, 2023 at 2:23 am | #

          Gah, fuck, meant to put finger quotes around the “he’s” for Jocelyne. Mea culpa.

  19. Joyfulldreams
    Joyfulldreams
    June 4, 2023 at 12:12 am | #

    GOOD BOYFRIENDING JOE. FIRST OFFICIAL DAY OF BOYFRIENDING YOU GET AN A.

    • Joyfulldreams
      Joyfulldreams
      June 4, 2023 at 12:12 am | #

      oh no no thank you for that gravatar let me try again

  20. Alongcameaspider
    Alongcameaspider
    June 4, 2023 at 12:12 am | #

    Joe got a look at what he’ll be looking at with Joyce if he sticks around long term and he likes what he sees

    • Net-Zero Joeyce Shipper (no engine, slowly following the current)
      Net-Zero Joeyce Shipper (no engine, slowly following the current)
      June 4, 2023 at 12:14 am | #

      Joe and Joyce staying together into their 60s confirmed

  21. Nono
    Nono
    June 4, 2023 at 12:15 am | #

    Alright, much is Carol gonna be snooping through Joyce’s bathroom looking for, I dunno, birth control or condoms?

    Forgetting that she shares a half-bath with Dorothy, who could just as easily have those?

    Bonus if she finds the AMAZI-CONDOMS.

    • Nono
      Nono
      June 4, 2023 at 12:16 am | #

      Actually I forgot that she actually doesn’t share the half-bath with Dorothy, she shares it with Sal and Malaya.

      So no AMAZI-CONDOMS but Carol could still be snooping.

      • Proxiehunter
        Proxiehunter
        June 4, 2023 at 12:21 am | #

        And Sarah. She has her own roommate things that upset her mother can belong to even if they’re Joyce’s.

        • TulipKitten
          TulipKitten
          June 4, 2023 at 2:09 am | #

          Like “other Jacob”. Wait, is she gonna see it, assume it’s Joyce’s, and find out that Joyce practices Onanism?

      • TulipKitten
        TulipKitten
        June 4, 2023 at 2:05 am | #

        Honestly, I’d pay to see Malaya meet Carol and then they have a stand-off.

    • Angel
      Angel
      June 4, 2023 at 12:28 am | #

      well it’d probably have a bunch of other ppl’s stuff too but other than basic bath sets and stuff i imagine there wouldn’t be anything too customized (though most of them shower in the communal showers so idk if they’d keep anything in the bathroom that they couldn’t keep in their drawers)

      • Bryy
        Bryy
        June 4, 2023 at 12:31 am | #

        Let’s not mince words.

        Carol doesn’t give a shit if it isn’t Joyce’s.

        • Angel
          Angel
          June 4, 2023 at 3:11 am | #

          i mean, this university isn’t as religious leaning as becky’s was before she ran, so she’d have to expect joyce would be around ppl she’d consider ‘blasphemous’, even if she had stayed a ‘perfect angel’ in her moms eyes other than condemning an acquaintances’ behavior/personal life, she can’t physically stop them from keeping their stuff in a shared bathroom (tho i suppose some ppl who don’t wanna deal with the headache would be discreet and hide something they wouldn’t want an uptight christian to see)

          • khn0
            khn0
            June 4, 2023 at 4:45 am | #

            That’s logic, vs someone who talks to gods in her sleep about selling things (I guess world peace was too easy a topic)

      • Mark
        Mark
        June 4, 2023 at 7:52 am | #

        I’ve never lived in a dorm, but my recollection when I helped my girlfriend move her stuff back home at end of term (from a different school) is of a very bare-bones room with fixtures and nothing else. Space on the edges of things for maybe a bar of soap. You’d keep your stuff in your room. Not a bad plan, really, with four girls raised in different homes sharing such a space.

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          June 4, 2023 at 10:08 am | #

          Yeah, I’d expect toothbrushes and that kind of thing. Maybe birth control, though we know Joyce doesn’t keep hers there.
          It would be a weird place to keep condoms and vibrators

  22. DailyBrad
    DailyBrad
    June 4, 2023 at 12:23 am | #

    I fucking love Joe.

  23. Axel
    Axel
    June 4, 2023 at 12:26 am | #

    It’s weird but on the other hand apparently a good handful of people in the comments have agreed this week

    • Clif
      Clif
      June 4, 2023 at 4:22 am | #

      Now you’ve jinxed it.

  24. Steamweed
    Steamweed
    June 4, 2023 at 12:34 am | #

    GIDWF. No way with that one.

    • JessWitt
      JessWitt
      June 4, 2023 at 1:30 am | #

      GWCFO

  25. Grimey
    Grimey
    June 4, 2023 at 12:42 am | #

    Ah yeah Joe’s gone through his parents not being together before so he knows what Joyce needed in the moment…

    …Nah but seriously, money on Carol snooping.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      June 4, 2023 at 6:56 am | #

      Oh, absolutely.

      At least with the shared bathroom, Joyce can blame anything Carol finds on three other people. It’s harder to deflect the birth control when it’s sitting on her personal desk.

  26. Elle L
    Elle L
    June 4, 2023 at 12:47 am | #

    Your Honor, I love them.

  27. adam black
    adam black
    June 4, 2023 at 12:54 am | #

    Anyone else think , hmm ‘whats a gilf”

    • Net-Zero Joeyce Shipper (no engine, slowly following the current)
      Net-Zero Joeyce Shipper (no engine, slowly following the current)
      June 4, 2023 at 1:02 am | #

      “girlfriend I’d like to French”

      • Jess
        Jess
        June 4, 2023 at 2:23 am | #

        FANTASTIC username

        • Net-Zero Joeyce Shipper (no engine, slowly following the current)
          Net-Zero Joeyce Shipper (no engine, slowly following the current)
          June 4, 2023 at 3:18 am | #

          *bangs side of the hull* we’re going slow but we’re enjoying the ride!

    • Opus the Poet
      Opus the Poet
      June 4, 2023 at 2:02 am | #

      Think MILF but substitute “Granny” for “Mom”.

  28. Azroth
    Azroth
    June 4, 2023 at 1:27 am | #

    Ahh,Joe at his finest! Loving and Gross.

  29. Holly
    Holly
    June 4, 2023 at 1:28 am | #

    Mister “how do I be a good boyfriend” being a good boyfriend and not even realising it. :’)

  30. BarerMender
    BarerMender
    June 4, 2023 at 1:36 am | #

    I met a guy in New York back in ’67 who referred to girls as “gilkens.” If he was being nice. Otherwise it was “ginch.” Never heard either word anywhere else. I think I can figure out “ginch,” but “gilken” has me beat.

    • Matthew Davis
      Matthew Davis
      June 4, 2023 at 3:23 am | #

      Do you happen to know where his family originally came from? If you do I might be able to suss it out.

      • BarerMender
        BarerMender
        June 5, 2023 at 2:18 pm | #

        No idea, but his accent was American.

    • HueSatLight
      HueSatLight
      June 4, 2023 at 8:16 am | #

      -ken is dimuntive in germanic languages (examples in standard English: lambkin, pumpkin, munchkin, mannequin). Gill sounds like a non-rhotic version of girl, like “gal” or the british “gel”.

  31. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    June 4, 2023 at 1:37 am | #

    Man, 60…. she had Joyce near 40.

    • Angel
      Angel
      June 4, 2023 at 5:11 pm | #

      not an unreasonable age if you’ve already had kids

      amusing if she ended up having another kid to be like “hopefully this daughter will turn out better” or so, i mean it’d be a lot of effort but i can totally imagine a person having another kid outta spite

  32. Cmasta1992
    Cmasta1992
    June 4, 2023 at 1:39 am | #

    I’ll confess it: Carol has been looking good and should show up in the Patreon

    • k
      k
      June 4, 2023 at 3:03 am | #

      I was gonna protest but. Well. Willis made it happen once with Mary. May as well.

  33. Steelbright
    Steelbright
    June 4, 2023 at 1:43 am | #

    The kids are doing alright

  34. SDRainbow
    SDRainbow
    June 4, 2023 at 1:47 am | #

    joe’s doing so well I almost wonder if he’s going to burn himself out from trying too hard

    I HOPE NOT

    BC IT’S VERY CUTE

  35. Ophidiophile
    Ophidiophile
    June 4, 2023 at 2:06 am | #

    New goal for aging: Keep enough stuff in the right places.

    • Thomas
      Thomas
      June 4, 2023 at 3:21 am | #

      Become the Marie Kondo of aging!

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        June 4, 2023 at 6:52 am | #

        One gray hair? This does not spark joy.

    • HueSatLight
      HueSatLight
      June 4, 2023 at 9:32 am | #

      ♫ I’ve still got my sexy parts
      Still I’ve got two out of five
      I’ve still got two out of five ♪

      • JessWitt
        JessWitt
        June 4, 2023 at 11:32 am | #

        Not bad for having three (or four) kids!

  36. Suet
    Suet
    June 4, 2023 at 2:10 am | #

    Don’t make promises you can’t keep, Joe. What a pendulum of statements, tho.

    Exhibit B of Joe acting as an oversized teddy bear:

    • SailorCakes
      SailorCakes
      June 4, 2023 at 2:33 am | #

      Joe should really just except his fate 😌

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      June 4, 2023 at 6:52 am | #

      She’d give him a dope-slap if she could reach.

      (Hoping to start a running gag where he bends over to Joyce-dope-slap height when he thinks he deserves it.)

      • StClair
        StClair
        June 4, 2023 at 1:38 pm | #

        I approve of this.

  37. The Blueprint System
    The Blueprint System
    June 4, 2023 at 3:17 am | #

    Interesting. I wonder if it’s significant to the plot somehow that Carol is 60. My parents were also in their early 40’s when they had me but most parents are not. Was it a Quiverfull thing, where more kids = better, so she continued having them as long as she safely could? Or was her oldest already showing signs of not following her wishes and she wanted an additional “clean slate”? I’m curious to learn more.

    • Doopyboop
      Doopyboop
      June 4, 2023 at 3:55 am | #

      Considering how religious they are, I’m thinking it’s Quiverfull/”be fruitful and multiply” in which case we’re lucky they only had 4 kids, rather than 7. Also, since they did stop with Joyce, it’s possible they were subconsciously trying until they finally had a girl, as I’ve seen many people do. Granted, they do have a daughter in Jocelyne, they just don’t know/wouldn’t accept her.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      June 4, 2023 at 6:50 am | #

      Maybe they only started having kids after Hank finished medical school.

      There were six Brown siblings in the old Walkyverse continuity, but there’s only four here.

  38. Matthew Davis
    Matthew Davis
    June 4, 2023 at 3:26 am | #

    So reading this for a second time and thinking about that final panel, it strikes me that this is not only a joke, but Joe’s way of saying “this is me. I’m not going to hide anything from you. You’ll know exactly how bad I am, so you can always make the choice to walk away when you want.”

    • BOOSTER SHOT
      BOOSTER SHOT
      June 4, 2023 at 4:29 am | #

      Joyce absolutely needs someone without pretense. She has had a lot of traumatic experiences involving pretense – I’d say Becky kissing her counts, even if things ended up okay between the two of them. And yeah, thinking back on Ryan, Ethan, and Jacob, pretense was a major part of all those relationships.

    • DailyBrad
      DailyBrad
      June 4, 2023 at 9:16 pm | #

      Yeah, Joe doesn’t believe in springing stuff on Joyce, and vice versa. It’s been a recurring thing with these two in some of their previous heart to hears.

      Paraphrasing, but at least one or two “This is what you’re signing up for” “Do you see me running?” kinds of exchanges.

  39. Alex
    Alex
    June 4, 2023 at 3:54 am | #

    Joe, the boyfriend Joyce needs and deserves.

    Maybe? Look, that hug at least brings him to par.

  40. Sirksome
    Sirksome
    June 4, 2023 at 5:03 am | #

    Sad to say I can see Joe’s vision. The Brown’s have some pretty good genetics. Carol’s not bad for sixty.

  41. Taffy
    Taffy
    June 4, 2023 at 5:25 am | #

    Lately I’ve been getting ads for “most romantic hotels in [random city]”, all with at least four women smiling and laughing. Pretty sure something about my browsing history seems to be making the adgorithm think I’m in a lesbian polycule, and I sorta wonder if this gay-ass comic might be skewing things.

    • Plaaaa
      Plaaaa
      June 4, 2023 at 8:27 am | #

      What an odd thing to say under a strip that is 100% hetero affection

    • HueSatLight
      HueSatLight
      June 4, 2023 at 9:37 am | #

      Do you get algorithms thinking you’re interested in transformers too?

      • Taffy
        Taffy
        June 4, 2023 at 2:32 pm | #

        Surprisingly, no. Mostly it’s insurance and cruises.

  42. ValdVin
    ValdVin
    June 4, 2023 at 6:09 am | #

    As professional cougar bait (ask my wife), I agree that Carol looks younger than her years.

    But she will never have two things Joyce does: Those baby blues, and a smile that makes the flowers grow.

  43. saltchocolate
    saltchocolate
    June 4, 2023 at 6:35 am | #

    Officially Team Joe, now. He is so on point, even including the comments on her mom’s looks. I’m also on board the SS Joeyce, though I shudder to mention it for fear of what Willis may do to us later . . .

  44. Amós Batista
    Amós Batista
    June 4, 2023 at 7:22 am | #

    The Joe’s pain in 4th panel is so real. It’s like himself dealing with a divorce of his parents.

    By another side, I wish he could stop to think with his penis for 5 minutes.

    • Adept
      Adept
      June 4, 2023 at 8:15 am | #

      That’s just aesthetics. Nothing wrong with pursuing libido as a hobby, as it were. Besides, he’s serious enough about Joyce that he may be curious about what life might be like 40 years from now.

      • Amós Batista
        Amós Batista
        June 5, 2023 at 10:28 am | #

        aesthetics

    • HueSatLight
      HueSatLight
      June 4, 2023 at 8:25 pm | #

      He didn’t say GILF. He just said she looks good for her age. I don’t think that implies he’s horny for her.

      • Clif
        Clif
        June 4, 2023 at 11:58 pm | #

        Alt text

  45. Megan Rivera
    Megan Rivera
    June 4, 2023 at 7:33 am | #

    I’m going to CRY the fourth panel DESTROYED ME

  46. Remi Maloney
    Remi Maloney
    June 4, 2023 at 9:45 am | #

    Awww.. Joe is self-sabotaging because he doesn’t love and trust himself to do the right thing if he actually tried.

    I want him to get more confidence in himself. He’s such a scared teddy bear who blusters to hide his fear.

  47. Mancuso
    Mancuso
    June 4, 2023 at 10:26 am | #

    It just dawned on me that Carol may be way more on the spectrum than Dina, only for her it’s God instead of dinos. Also, dinos are statistically 50.000% less likely to make people sell their houses.

  48. Sombrero
    Sombrero
    June 4, 2023 at 11:41 am | #

    I think I know who should be the default doodle for Book 13 almost one year in advance.

  49. Big Z
    Big Z
    June 4, 2023 at 11:42 am | #

    Next book title! “IF I SAY ALL MY WORST THINGS OUT LOUD, YOU CAN TRUST THAT’S AS BAD AS I GET”, a Dumbing of Age Collection

  50. Yakumo
    Yakumo
    June 4, 2023 at 3:08 pm | #

    In fairness, mom’s “I just assumed” comment was worse and is probably still far from the worst thoughts can come up with.

  51. Slartibeast Button, BIA
    Slartibeast Button, BIA
    June 4, 2023 at 3:25 pm | #

    Compare and contrast with the QC version:

    “OH MY GOD YOU ARE GOING TO BE SO HOT WHEN YOU GO GRAY”

    https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1515

    • DailyBrad
      DailyBrad
      June 4, 2023 at 9:14 pm | #

      Marten’s dad got this reaction from Claire, too, though she had not yet really properly acknowledged her attraction to Marten yet, guess that was an early clue.

      Joyce has a way prettier face than her mom, so I mean, odds are she’ll look better at 60, so Joe’s probably more noticing curves.

  52. eskimolos
    eskimolos
    June 4, 2023 at 4:11 pm | #

    Two thoughts on this:

    1. Can relate to Joyce, I can remember sitting with my “boyfriend” when I was 13 on the front porch on the day my grandmother died. I was chatting with other people about something, then looked at him and saw he looked really stormy. “What’s wrong?” I asked. He looked back at me and said flatly “your grandmother just *died*.” I loved my grandmother and admired her a lot, just it took a long time for bad news to really internalise for me, and I would often forget it, probably as a defense mechanism? My emotions have always been too intense.

    2. I think Joe’s been through similar actually? Didn’t his parents divorce? Or maybe he lost his mom entirely? So he probably gets it better than just about anybody Joyce knows.

    • Doopyboop
      Doopyboop
      June 4, 2023 at 5:51 pm | #

      Ooh yeah, Joe’s parents definitely divorced. In his case, it was because his father wasn’t loyal. It’s a big part of why Joe leans into just casual sex before dating Joyce (if he never actually dates anyone, he never has to worry about getting divorced/cheating), as well as why he had reservations about his dad actually starting a relationship with Amber’s mom, viewing the relationship as a ticking time bomb until his dad ‘inevitably’ cheats.

      It definitely reminds me of my parents. Both of them came from divorced households, and so even though my parents were together for over 30 years, raised me together, and lived in the same home for all that time, the two didn’t never got married. Likely due to the divorces that happened in their childhoods.

  53. Drain
    Drain
    June 4, 2023 at 4:35 pm | #

    It’s one thing to say you can forgive it because it’s self-sabotage or a backslide into old habits, but please y’all, this isn’t genuinely helpful by any stretch of the imagination

  54. Yeet
    Yeet
    June 4, 2023 at 4:58 pm | #

    lot of folks talking about snooping but do people actually keep anything in their half-baths? seems like it’d be awkward as hell.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      June 4, 2023 at 6:25 pm | #

      Bathroom stuff, anyway.

      • Yeet
        Yeet
        June 5, 2023 at 6:49 am | #

        I mean, sure, but it’s a tiny-ass toilet for like four people? a full bathroom is bad enough for that

  55. Daggart
    Daggart
    June 4, 2023 at 5:54 pm | #

    Aaand mom just found the birth control

    • Ragnarok101
      Ragnarok101
      June 4, 2023 at 5:59 pm | #

      Nope, Joyce covered it up, it’s on her desk.

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        June 4, 2023 at 6:27 pm | #

        It could be Malaya’s, Sal’s, or Sarah’s.

        That won’t matter, but it could be!

        • Slartibeast Button, BIA
          Slartibeast Button, BIA
          June 4, 2023 at 9:34 pm | #

          Close association with such immoral women* will inevitably corrupt Joyce with their slatternly ways.

          * And Malaya

  56. bcb
    bcb
    June 4, 2023 at 8:50 pm | #

    Does Joe realize that Carol supported and helped fund the plot that got Joyce kidnapped and almost murdered

    • DailyBrad
      DailyBrad
      June 4, 2023 at 9:10 pm | #

      I don’t know if anyone’s really told him much about that or not. I think he’s making strictly a physical assessment, though, I seriously doubt he’d actually want to bang her.

  57. Romanticide
    Romanticide
    June 26, 2023 at 4:11 am | #

    He is being there and glad he is trying to be there for Joyce.

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