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Goodnight

by David M Willis on August 15, 2023 at 12:01 am
  • 04 – But Don't Give Yourself Away
└ Tags: danny, sal

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  1. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    August 15, 2023 at 12:03 am | #

    ah, spite, letting people dictate your preferences through opposites

    • Angel
      Angel
      August 15, 2023 at 2:26 am | #

      Too bad it can’t be used for good/helpful stuff like, “Don’t eat healthy foods/stuff yourself with pizza!” tho idk how long diets like that can last if you can’t find ways to flavor/season healthier stuff and portion and all that

      • wilddeath
        wilddeath
        August 15, 2023 at 4:45 am | #

        I literally function off of spite. I hate myself so much that when my depression says I can’t or shouldn’t do something I do it because who am i to tell myself how to live my life right?

        • Laura
          Laura
          August 15, 2023 at 8:25 am | #

          I’m sorry to hear that you have to deal with that. I know how hard that is.

        • SpaceDorf
          SpaceDorf
          August 17, 2023 at 7:21 am | #

          I wish I could do that, I try bit it usually ends up sucking even more.

      • Mark
        Mark
        August 15, 2023 at 7:19 am | #

        “Please don’t throw me in that briar patch!”

        Sometimes it only has to work for a second or two.

        • Briar
          Briar
          August 16, 2023 at 6:12 pm | #

          Please don’t use reverse psychology to get someone to throw you into my patch. I don’t know you like that…

      • Thanatos
        Thanatos
        August 15, 2023 at 7:45 am | #

        My sister kinda did this with her kids. She always told her kids not to eat so many vegies and that they had to eat other things before they could have more. They became obsessed with eating nothing but vegetables. Now they snack on vegies like candy. Only difficulty now is getting one of them to eat meat. (no, she isn’t trying to be vegetarian or vegan, she just is convinced that she doesn’t like it the same way lots of kids are convinced that carrots are bad).

        • Leorale
          Leorale
          August 15, 2023 at 8:34 pm | #

          Meat has a very strong taste, some people don’t like it. No reason to believe the kid has “convinced” themselves they don’t like meat. Or carrots, or whatever food they dislike.

          You may have more success with the starting point that the kid is telling the truth about their likes/dislikes, and believing them that they don’t like meat (at least as it’s made currently).

          Are they a ketchup kid — what if they can cover it in ketchup?

      • Laura
        Laura
        August 15, 2023 at 8:27 am | #

        I’ve done a diet like that. It did work. Just messed with my blood sugar too much.

      • Tobias
        Tobias
        August 15, 2023 at 8:36 am | #

        I became a vegetarian out of spite and have kept to it for 20 years

      • Joy
        Joy
        August 16, 2023 at 11:17 am | #

        My parents used to “punish” me with healthy food and “reward” me with deeply unhealthy food, unlike every sibling that had to go through that and is now in the habit of eating unhealthy, I personally became a healthy eater to spite them. I also eat cookies ice cream and pizza and fried chicken literally whenever and not on special occasions because those things are fine to eat so long as you also enjoy vegetables. Anyway I want to learn how to make raddish kimchi. Also my little beer microbrew should be ready soon!

    • Decidedly Orthogonal
      Decidedly Orthogonal
      August 15, 2023 at 8:45 am | #

      Oh yeah.. But at least Sal is smart enough to not outsmart herself, give vent to the urge but not actually let her ‘rents ruin her good thing with Danners.

  2. AY
    AY
    August 15, 2023 at 12:03 am | #

    She’s trying her best!

    • clif
      clif
      August 15, 2023 at 2:35 am | #

      What’s life without a little crazy?

  3. Lilith
    Lilith
    August 15, 2023 at 12:03 am | #

    genuinely jumpscared

  4. Grimey
    Grimey
    August 15, 2023 at 12:03 am | #

    I too live in a world of contradictions, Sal.

  5. C.T. Phipps
    C.T. Phipps
    August 15, 2023 at 12:03 am | #

    Hopefully Danny won’t Dan this up like saying Marcie would be better off dead.

    • Thomas
      Thomas
      August 15, 2023 at 1:20 am | #

      You said this before. Why would Danny say such a hurtful thing? Do you think that would be realistic for this comic? Marcie is very much alive and gets by without using her voice just fine.

      • Dark_T_Zeratul
        Dark_T_Zeratul
        August 15, 2023 at 1:42 am | #

        And unlike Mike, Marcie wasn’t a colossal asshole to Dan.

        • Casi
          Casi
          August 15, 2023 at 1:45 am | #

          but mike wasn’t really being an asshole! He was being a jerk with a heart of gold, and was just misunderstood, and he wasn’t actually doing emotional abuse, he was just doing tough love! /s

          • DrunkenNordmann
            DrunkenNordmann
            August 15, 2023 at 3:40 am | #

            I mean, it was still dickish of Danny to say that Mike would be better off dead to one of Mike’s grieving friends right outside of the room he was lying in.

            There’s a time and place for everything and that wasn’t it.

            • Mark
              Mark
              August 15, 2023 at 7:22 am | #

              I read his comment as musing on the thought that maybe everyone else would be better off if Mike were no more.

              • tunasammich
                tunasammich
                August 15, 2023 at 10:41 am | #

                Winner winner chicken dinner

              • thejeff
                thejeff
                August 15, 2023 at 12:33 pm | #

                It wasn’t even “dead”. Just that he “not wake up for awhile”.

                And he was likely thinking mostly about Ethan being better off without Mike around.

          • Dr. T
            Dr. T
            August 15, 2023 at 6:50 am | #

            At what point did Danny get to see Mike be anything that wasn’t prickish behavior? WE got to see it, as did Amber, Ethan, and even Walky, but that’s it.

            • thejeff
              thejeff
              August 15, 2023 at 7:06 am | #

              Few and far between for all of them (until the end for Amber). Especially for Walky.

            • LiterallyJustSomeGuy
              LiterallyJustSomeGuy
              August 15, 2023 at 8:12 am | #

              ‘/s’ is an “end of sarcasm” sign. Casi is joking and actually means the opposite of everything they said.

              • clif
                clif
                August 15, 2023 at 10:54 am | #

                I hear they’ve invented this thing called the Internet.

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          August 15, 2023 at 7:09 am | #

          I think, especially if you reread his last interaction with Mike at Becky’s party, Danny was far more concerned about how Mike treated Ethan (and Amber) than himself.
          The whole point of his comment was that Ethan would be better off without Mike around. For awhile – he wasn’t actually thinking about Mike dying, much less saying it, though it’s understandable for Ethan to take it that way in retrospect.

          • Bash
            Bash
            August 15, 2023 at 8:32 am | #

            People forget this, but at the time no one thought Mike would die. Most of the cast had not dealt with death, and it seemed impossible for someone their own age to die. Ethan didn’t say Mike might die, he said he might not wake up for a while. Danny was probably thinking a few weeks without Mike would be okay for everyone. He starts to take it back, but then he decides to say how he really feels about Mike. If he Danned anything up, it was by taking things personally and running away instead of talking it out with Ethan.

            • thejeff
              thejeff
              August 15, 2023 at 12:29 pm | #

              Saying it at all to someone in Ethan’s state was already Danning it up. He blurted something out that he hadn’t intended to say and there was no way it was going to come across well. Even if it was true.

              It just annoys me that readers remember it as even worse than it was.

              • Yumi
                Yumi
                August 15, 2023 at 12:48 pm | #

                I can’t believe Danny spit on Mike’s dying face in front of his parents.

        • Chronos
          Chronos
          August 16, 2023 at 7:56 am | #

          Have Danny and Marcie even met?

    • Username Taken
      Username Taken
      August 15, 2023 at 9:08 am | #

      Why would he say that? Danny has never said that any of his peers would be better off dead.

    • C.T. Phipps
      C.T. Phipps
      August 16, 2023 at 12:00 am | #

      It still takes a colossal asshat to be so self-absorbed that he doesn’t notice his friend is visiting another in THE HOSPITAL.

  6. Doopyboop
    Doopyboop
    August 15, 2023 at 12:04 am | #

    It’s okay Danny! You aren’t at that cement wall thing! Therefore, not a breakup!

  7. Mark Sebree
    Mark Sebree
    August 15, 2023 at 12:05 am | #

    Actually, the line “My parents like you so AH don’t like you!” sounds like a good book title.

    • Bogeywoman
      Bogeywoman
      August 15, 2023 at 2:27 am | #

      I’d buy a totally random book with that title and invest my life in reading the prior and subsequent comics, for sure

      • clif
        clif
        August 15, 2023 at 11:02 am | #

        Sounds like we have a winner then. Wonder what the title of the next chapter is. Let’s see.

        Everybody’s Looking for Nothing. Hm.

  8. Slartibeast Button, BIA
    Slartibeast Button, BIA
    August 15, 2023 at 12:05 am | #

    I hope tomorrow isn’t Opposite Day.

    • NGPZ
      NGPZ
      August 15, 2023 at 10:17 pm | #

      Kinda? It’s a new moon IIRC

  9. Freezer
    Freezer
    August 15, 2023 at 12:05 am | #

    She just had to get that out of her system.

  10. Mr. Random
    Mr. Random
    August 15, 2023 at 12:05 am | #

    Sal’s got issues.
    It’s weirdly cute.

  11. Zane Becker-Byrd
    Zane Becker-Byrd
    August 15, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

    *Quiet Screaming into my Pillow*

  12. Corronchilejano
    Corronchilejano
    August 15, 2023 at 12:07 am | #

    “I can’t be seen as a person unless I’m with you”

  13. Jo_cubstar
    Jo_cubstar
    August 15, 2023 at 12:08 am | #

    Panel 4 Danny is so 😔

  14. UrsulaDavina
    UrsulaDavina
    August 15, 2023 at 12:09 am | #

    Glad Sal has enough self awareness to realize whether her parents like or dislike Danny shouldn’t affect how she feels. Now with Danny’s parents she going to have to real8ze they will like her more then they like Danny.

    • Freemage
      Freemage
      August 15, 2023 at 12:13 am | #

      This is why I keep faithful to this ship. They just work so damned well together, and really bring out the best in the other.

    • Matthew Davis
      Matthew Davis
      August 15, 2023 at 1:00 am | #

      My parents often say to me “yeah, but we like her” when talking about my spouse. It’s mostly a joke. Mostly.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      August 15, 2023 at 3:38 am | #

      Are Danny’s parents even that bad to him in the Dumbiverse? I re-read their appearance on Freshman Family Weekend and they’re mostly fine until they hear Dorothy dumped him.

      https://www.dumbingofage.com/wilcoxes/

      • Leorale
        Leorale
        August 15, 2023 at 7:52 am | #

        The Wilcoxen certainly aren’t the likes of Blaine and Clint, but the brief time we see them, they blame and insult Danny instead of comforting him or bucking him up or being kind to him in the wake of an awkward breakup.

        Much more pervasively, it’s *how Danny reacts to things*, like somebody whose self-esteem was consistently discouraged by people around him in childhood. (For example, why does this nice people-pleasing fellow think it’s “no big deal” for Amber to yell at him that he’s stupid?)

        The longer he lives away from his parents, the more free he feels to learn about himself, and experiment, and start standing up for what he believes in. The longer he’s without them, the comfier he begins to feel in his own skin.

        Subtle stuff, but enough that the commentariat seems to suspect that they’re low-key sucky.

      • Nedlum
        Nedlum
        August 15, 2023 at 9:57 am | #

        The most damning thing we’ve seen about the Willcoxes was in a strip where they didn’t show up and weren’t mentioned:
        I’m kinda used to being called stuff like [a piece of shit]. It’s not really that big a deal to me.

        It feels clear that however the Wilcoxes treated him at Family Weekend was not exactly them at their worst.

        • Leorale
          Leorale
          August 16, 2023 at 1:23 am | #

          Yes! Thank you, that’s the strip I was thinking of, and it was, appropriately, worse than I remembered.

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      August 15, 2023 at 8:25 am | #

      That’ll be interesting to see. With all the drama over the Walkerton’s reaction to Danny, I hadn’t really considered how Sal would play out in Danny’s family dynamic. How that’ll parallel Danny’s acceptance by Sal’s parents and how she’ll react to it.

      Of course, I’m not sure they really will like Sal. They want a girl who’s “going places” and Sal’s bad girl might not work for them. She’s no Dorothy, after all.

  15. Stephen Bierce
    Stephen Bierce
    August 15, 2023 at 12:10 am | #

    The Fallacy of the Ultimate Binary

  16. DailyBrad
    DailyBrad
    August 15, 2023 at 12:11 am | #

    I take that as her instantly knowing she is being ridiculous and to sleep it off.

    • bemisawa
      bemisawa
      August 15, 2023 at 2:48 am | #

      Yeah, that’s mainly how it reads to me as well. Thank you for putting it so well!

      To start with, her expression seems too serious for this to be purely joking (though maybe I misunderstand her sense of humor). But it makes sense with her character for her yelled, contrary statement to have some basis in her feelings – not towards Danny, but towards her parents. But, while she feels the need to say that to express her anger towards them (and to a lesser extent, to be contrary), it doesn’t *actually* make Danny a bad boyfriend. I feel like this is character growth for her to recognize that her own feelings are being unhelpful… I don’t remember specific instances, but in the past, I thought she leaned more towards contrariness.

      But I don’t know, maybe there’s a bit of jokiness in there, too. Maybe she’s doing something akin to the say-what-you-mean-but-pretend-you’re-joking thing, but with the added caveat of actually-is-joking-but-still-kinda-feels-that-feel-and-wants-to-blow-off-steam.

      Or, maybe Walky’s love of tropes is rubbing off on her.

    • bejouled
      bejouled
      August 15, 2023 at 4:48 am | #

      That’s how I read it too, and I’m actually really surprised that people think she’s joking. I think it was a feeling that was building all day, it finally burst out of her, and then she admitted that it doesn’t make sense.

      • DailyBrad
        DailyBrad
        August 15, 2023 at 10:25 pm | #

        Yeah, she knows it’s just reflexive and irrational, and Danny thankfully doesn’t seem to be that torn up about it. Of course, we’ve seen Danny take all kinds of verbal abuse from people in stride, so this is probably hardly fazing him.

  17. RassilonTDavros
    RassilonTDavros
    August 15, 2023 at 12:15 am | #

    Not sure if I really think they can overcome this, or if it’s just wishful thinking. But one can hope…

    Onward to Book 14!

  18. William
    William
    August 15, 2023 at 12:19 am | #

    Welp, that was frightening. Glad she wasn’t serious though.

  19. newlland(Henryvolt)
    newlland(Henryvolt)
    August 15, 2023 at 12:19 am | #

    Sour patch kid Sal.

  20. CMasta1992
    CMasta1992
    August 15, 2023 at 12:22 am | #

    Well on the plus side Panel 4 Danny, Walky probably won’t date your ex this time.

  21. Sirksome
    Sirksome
    August 15, 2023 at 12:23 am | #

    Sending mixed singles. I guess Sal learned something from rooming with Jennifer last semester. Great technique here. Leave em confused, that’s what keeps em interested.

    • UrsulaDavina
      UrsulaDavina
      August 15, 2023 at 12:26 am | #

      Pretty sure she was just joking with him.

      • Sirksome
        Sirksome
        August 15, 2023 at 12:30 am | #

        I know. I was trying to joke myself.

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        August 15, 2023 at 3:41 am | #

        Mostly.

        She’s hiding a genuine fear under there.

  22. Joe Moose
    Joe Moose
    August 15, 2023 at 12:31 am | #

    ♫ Give ’em the old, double whammy
    Daze and dizzy ’em ♪

  23. ANeM
    ANeM
    August 15, 2023 at 12:39 am | #

    I’m choosing to believe Sal is trying to be playfully self-aware of her own bullshit and just massively missing the mark on what is “Fun” vs “Genuinely Upsetting.”

    • Thomas
      Thomas
      August 15, 2023 at 1:07 am | #

      She goes full-on Walky here. This is the playground “I don’t like your stupid face!” that has the opposite meaning, like we saw between Jennifer & Ruth.

      • StClair
        StClair
        August 15, 2023 at 1:14 am | #

        I had the thought that this was basically on the level of “I don’t know how to deal with these feelings, so I’m going to throw a toy at you.”

  24. The Jighole Man
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    August 15, 2023 at 12:40 am | #

    she needed to vent, but she also wanted him to know that she still loves him.

  25. Taffy
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    I choose to take this as a real breakup, because the standard is apparently so low that “walking away from them” counts, around here.

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      zee
      August 15, 2023 at 10:19 am | #

      Remember when that one guy was insisting that Billie and Ruth broke up months before they did? I think it was the fight where Ruth told Billie to stop trying to get her to drink. She walked away and from that point forward they were broken up in his eyes to the point that Willis had to step in

      Good times

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        August 15, 2023 at 12:55 pm | #

        Wasn’t that just one of the time Ruth tried to break up, but Billie wouldn’t let her? As later revealed in the Halloween arc, happened all the time.

  26. Kenny Williams
    Kenny Williams
    August 15, 2023 at 1:00 am | #

    Honestly, I was scared that thos was how it was gonna go, thank goodness.

  27. Joshua Kronengold
    Joshua Kronengold
    August 15, 2023 at 1:05 am | #

    Book 13: My parents like you so I don’t like you

    • Violet
      Violet
      August 15, 2023 at 12:16 pm | #

      Was just about to comment this;

    • Angel
      Angel
      August 16, 2023 at 12:10 am | #

      other than getting married i’d hope most parents would just feel indifferent.

      or comforting in the divorce where the ‘well we never liked him’ would translate to ‘you’re too good’ or ‘he was a good guy, sorry it didn’t work out’

  28. BBCC
    BBCC
    August 15, 2023 at 1:13 am | #

    Well at least she clarifies. XD

  29. ADLegend21
    ADLegend21
    August 15, 2023 at 1:23 am | #

    yeah that checks out. yay for Sal growth!

  30. Opinus
    Opinus
    August 15, 2023 at 1:27 am | #

    Sal is having a lot of complex emotions right now

    • Steamweed
      Steamweed
      August 15, 2023 at 8:02 am | #

      Neither Sal, nor Murderbot, nor me, like that feel.

      • Bash
        Bash
        August 15, 2023 at 8:09 am | #

        Wait are you reading Murderbot Diaries?

        • clif
          clif
          August 15, 2023 at 10:27 am | #

          I don’t think the next one’s out yet.

          • Bash
            Bash
            August 15, 2023 at 1:44 pm | #

            Oh I’m way behind, I am trying to savor them. I just meant are you reading or have you read the series in general. I just discovered this recently and I love it. I was excited to see that others share my enthusiasm.

            • Aura
              Aura
              August 15, 2023 at 7:18 pm | #

              I have read the first 2 books! Also savouring here 🙂

  31. Bo
    Bo
    August 15, 2023 at 1:27 am | #

    [A birthday cake that spells out in the frosting “Sorry for what I said when it was 104 degrees out”]

  32. foducool
    foducool
    August 15, 2023 at 1:38 am | #

    getting mixed signals, here

  33. Ophidiophile
    Ophidiophile
    August 15, 2023 at 2:05 am | #

    Ha ha ha. How many people got halfway through the strip and went “Sal, no!”?

  34. OnyxIdol
    OnyxIdol
    August 15, 2023 at 2:08 am | #

    I don’t really understand what happens here. Is this just Sal’s pattern of being contrary violently breaking out? Still seems strange that she would snap at Dan like that.

    • Mark
      Mark
      August 15, 2023 at 7:31 am | #

      She’s got to snap at someone, snapping at her parents would’ve done too much damage, and now Dan is the only one present. I take it as a sign that Sal thinks their relationship is firm enough to take this. Danny is her safe place!

    • Bash
      Bash
      August 15, 2023 at 8:12 am | #

      I think in the past Sal would have said this and genuinely meant it, but she’s changing from that person. But at the same time, she still holds onto some of the old impulses. So she said it, but she didn’t really mean it.

      I can’t help but feel that Linda has a point, and she is growing up. People focused on Danny’s whiteness, but having a healthy relationship with someone suitable is a good sign.

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        August 15, 2023 at 8:30 am | #

        While there’s truth in that, that Linda decided that it was a “healthy relationship with someone suitable” within minutes of meeting Danny suggests that she’s judging on very superficial characteristics at best.

        And given her also instant reaction to Lucy, it’s pretty clear what one of those characteristics is.

        • Bash
          Bash
          August 15, 2023 at 10:12 am | #

          You’re not wrong about that either.

  35. Thomas
    Thomas
    August 15, 2023 at 2:43 am | #

    This is the end of a Book, which means it is night & everybody goes to sleep. Tomorrow’s comic will be an exceptionally bright “Good morning!” as per formula. Which means we’ve got a few situations with potential for hanky-panky left hanging. Asher/Ethan didn’t happen & Danny/Sal obviously won’t. Joe & Joyce watched Hymmel the Horrible Hymnal, which we won’t witness, for which I’m sorry. That leaves Lucy & Walky, who had the disadvantage that Jennifer refused to read the room & leave it. In retrospect, I think that Walky tried to hint that she should go see Asher.

    • Thomas
      Thomas
      August 15, 2023 at 9:55 am | #

      Remember folks, Hymmel the Horrible Hymnal has an actual real-life counterpart in Psalty the Sinister Songbook!

    • MM
      MM
      August 15, 2023 at 10:50 am | #

      I don’t know that Jennifer couldn’t read the room so much as that she didn’t care to help. (Or doesn’t think Lucy and Walky should be taking that step, although that’s probably more investment in the situation than she’s willing to acknowledge.)

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      August 15, 2023 at 12:53 pm | #

      I’m not at all sure that Walky was hinting anything there. Seemed more like he was just throwing a barb back at her.

      And of course, she’s got no obligation to leave her room.

  36. AGV
    AGV
    August 15, 2023 at 2:45 am | #

    Sal nooooooo, don’t let that poison get to your head!

    • NGPZ
      NGPZ
      August 15, 2023 at 7:30 pm | #

      This is just her venting, this is the kind of stuff abuse does, she has my sympathies 🥺

  37. furubatsu
    furubatsu
    August 15, 2023 at 2:46 am | #

    At least she realised that wasn’t a cool thing to say to Danny 3 minutes later

    • zee
      zee
      August 15, 2023 at 10:21 am | #

      More like 3 seconds. Unless he just lingered there for a while I’m shock

  38. Needfuldoer
    Needfuldoer
    August 15, 2023 at 3:33 am | #

    Whew. The blurry Patreon preview had me worried yesterday…

    • clif
      clif
      August 15, 2023 at 10:34 am | #

      Ah, the Willis got you.

      I wondered wondered why he wouldn’t keep that sword dangling by a thread, but now it makes sense.

  39. CianM1301
    CianM1301
    August 15, 2023 at 3:34 am | #

    Well, that’s one way to end a book.

  40. Now
    Now
    August 15, 2023 at 3:39 am | #

    Hahahahaha Sal……………… At least she’s joking about it

  41. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    August 15, 2023 at 3:51 am | #

    “sorry, force of habit”

  42. Ray Radlein
    Ray Radlein
    August 15, 2023 at 4:15 am | #

    Oh, that brings back college memories

  43. Allison Branford
    Allison Branford
    August 15, 2023 at 4:32 am | #

    Tsundere Sal Strikes Again!

  44. Rabisch
    Rabisch
    August 15, 2023 at 4:43 am | #

    I REALLY hope Malaya and Sal will have a discussion about this. Even if she’s usually a nuisance, sometimes Malaya is able to raise good point and make Sal thinks. Sal says he’s fine is not enough to be really fine.

  45. eskimolos
    eskimolos
    August 15, 2023 at 5:33 am | #

    I mean, I for one know that like Dorothy and walky, Willis has been waiting throughout it’s walky to do sal x Danny proper meet cute and romance. Admittedly, Dorothy and walky are already broken up, but he could be doing this comic for another fifty years! Who knows.

  46. bengrue
    bengrue
    August 15, 2023 at 5:58 am | #

    Sal’s “It’s not you, it’s me” energy is nice tbh.

    “I have issues. But I don’t want to hurt you while I work them out.”

  47. Da Boy
    Da Boy
    August 15, 2023 at 5:58 am | #

    I was genuinely worried this would be her reaction… fortunately she was just being a bit tsundere.

    • davidbreslin101
      davidbreslin101
      August 15, 2023 at 9:53 am | #

      So I’m not the only one who mentally added a “Baka!” to panel 5….

      • Da Boy
        Da Boy
        August 15, 2023 at 11:21 am | #

        Sal going “Baka!” would be so cute XD

  48. Steamweed
    Steamweed
    August 15, 2023 at 7:57 am | #

    Coin flip heads: She drags him inside.
    Coin flip tails: She rejects him.
    This coin landed on its side. Progress?

  49. Mano308gts
    Mano308gts
    August 15, 2023 at 8:28 am | #

    I really don’t see why the commentariat is suggesting that Sal is *joking* here… Sal’s clearly not joking; she’s expressing her anger/conflicted feelings. She’s also targeting an innocent victim in this.

    However, she realizes right afterward that it’s too much; too harsh and totally mistargeted, so the quiet “your fine, come back tomorrow” by way of apology.

    No lie, it’s not the best apology, and it wasn’t remotely a fair attack- this is a low-point for Sal from my view. I wouldn’t ‘come back tomorrow’ if this happened to me.

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      August 15, 2023 at 8:35 am | #

      I would. This is a strong emotional reaction to an incredibly stressful situation, striking the heart of her childhood traumas and she walks it back immediately.

      • Mano308gts
        Mano308gts
        August 15, 2023 at 10:25 pm | #

        I understand and did point that out.

        However, she really put him into a no-win situation, practically gave him his directions, and then got angry about the result.

        Her anger is misguided, as she’s angry at her parents. But she by rights owes a genuine apology, not a mumbled ‘ignore what I just said’.

        Mind you, Sal is one of my favorite characters in the story- and she seems to generally do good- but this was cruel.

        It’s also remarkable insofar as it is very similar to how her mother responds to anger- quick and explosive shifts of mood, and seemingly as quick of recovey.

    • Da Boy
      Da Boy
      August 15, 2023 at 8:57 am | #

      That’s being a fair weather partner, sticking around only when things are good.

      It was not fair to Danny but she walked it back. Danny now realizes that Sal has issues but those are by far outweighed by his love for her and desire to be together. Problems happen and couples work through them and end up being stronger together.

      • Big Z
        Big Z
        August 15, 2023 at 9:08 am | #

        I’d say that, if something THIS wildly intense happens in the first few months of a relationship, one must seriously weigh “am I being a fair-weather partner” vs. “okay, so is this always going to be this unfair?”

        Obviously we all “know” Sal pretty well to know that deep down she’s a good person, but I’m not going to recommend anyone at any stage of a relationship tolerate conduct like “yell at you for something that’s not your fault, then slam a door in your face”. Sticking with THAT partner is going to up your risk of being a victim in the general case.

        • Da Boy
          Da Boy
          August 15, 2023 at 9:21 am | #

          That’s fair, it’s basically about weighting how much you love someone and want them in your life vs. the effort you need to put into the relationship. Sal is definitely someone worth the effort.

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          August 15, 2023 at 12:47 pm | #

          In the abstract sure – be real careful about putting up with partners yelling at you for things that aren’t your fault and slamming doors in your face.

          But that’s taking this one scene out of context. When something like this happens, you’ve got to look at why it happened.

    • aelfwine
      aelfwine
      August 15, 2023 at 9:11 am | #

      Eh, it wasn’t really an ‘attack’ on Danny though? If she’d twisted “my parents like you” into some perceived flaw or sin of Danny’s, that’d have been one thing, but she didn’t even accuse him of anything.

    • zee
      zee
      August 15, 2023 at 10:24 am | #

      Yeah she’s not joking, she’s just working through some complex emotions. She’s become self aware enough to realize it’s a knee jerk reaction and not how she really feels, and she probably just needs to sleep on it

      • StClair
        StClair
        August 15, 2023 at 2:36 pm | #

        agreed.

    • MM
      MM
      August 15, 2023 at 10:53 am | #

      I don’t think “joking” is the right sentiment so much as not entirely serious. Danny knows she doesn’t actually dislike him because of her parents. That’s why he hung around to give her a chance to walk it back. Doesn’t also mean she doesn’t need to address that instinct so it doesn’t happen in the first place, but, well, that’s the “dumbing” part of “of age.”

      • Mark
        Mark
        August 15, 2023 at 6:39 pm | #

        Maybe that’s why he hung around. Or maybe he’s like me. I’d have been about 10% through “that’s weird, I wonder what it means?” when she course-corrected. In no condition to remember that I have legs, or how they work, let alone decide where to have them take me.

  50. Laura
    Laura
    August 15, 2023 at 8:32 am | #

    …Would anyone like to play a game?

    Here’s the question:

    1.) What’s Sal going to do now to unwind her mind and unthread her head?

    2.) What do YOU like to do when everything gets to be too much, like it all is for Sal, right now?

    • Laura
      Laura
      August 15, 2023 at 8:37 am | #

      I can start.

      1.) I think Sal is going to climb out the window and go for a long walk, wearing her leather jacket and smoking a cigarette. If she’s lucky maybe the roller rink will be open and she can skate top speed to get the frustration out.

      2.) I don’t do this anymore, but when I was Sal’s age, I loved to climb tall trees. I loved the perspective, while swaying in the breeze from a great height. Nowadays I listen to soft music.

    • NGPZ
      NGPZ
      August 15, 2023 at 4:26 pm | #

      1) probably gonna smoke outside

      2) i kinda feel on the verge of autistic meltdown right now, i feel like crying but my face can’t make tears 😭

      • Laura
        Laura
        August 15, 2023 at 5:29 pm | #

        I hear ya, NG! I’m sending soothing vibes your way. I hope things settle down for you when they can. Remember to breathe. (( <3 ))

        • NGPZ
          NGPZ
          August 15, 2023 at 6:21 pm | #

          my emotions have just been so hectic since this shitty birthday weekend, it might be a few days before I’m back to my low-mid anxious baseline 😢

          but thank you as always Laura 😖🥹

          • Laura
            Laura
            August 15, 2023 at 7:03 pm | #

            You are so welcome, of course, NG.

            Here is the music I’m playing right now while trying to work through my feeling of being overwhelmed…

            https://insig.ht/46v1k59niCb

            Apropos of our egg-citing recipe swap yesterday, here’s a wee joke (yust a yolk?) for Becky and Dina:

            I tried to start a dating site for lesbian chickens, but I was struggling to make hens meet.
            (Guess they were too chicken!)

            • Laura
              Laura
              August 15, 2023 at 7:05 pm | #

              Ooh, sheesh! WAY too much Metadata in that URL! Yuck! And that’s no yolk.

              • NGPZ
                NGPZ
                August 15, 2023 at 7:18 pm | #

                Thank you so much. Your lesbian egg jokes and this song started a transmutation that is turning my tears of sorrow into that of joy. 🥲

                • Laura
                  Laura
                  August 15, 2023 at 7:32 pm | #

                  ✊️ We can get through this. 🤝

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      August 15, 2023 at 9:45 pm | #

      1) Listen to some music or read that music magazine we saw her look at a while ago, maybe text Marcie.

      2) Scroll through Tumblr fan blogs I know will have cute things, look at things I like on Youtube, read (fanfic or a book) or work on my Game of Thrones D&D game.

      • Laura
        Laura
        August 16, 2023 at 12:01 am | #

        Ooohhh… great ideas! Thanks!

    • Angel
      Angel
      August 16, 2023 at 12:11 am | #

      After sleeping, it’d be nice if they went on another bike ride+picnic the next day

  51. Nicoleandmaggie
    Nicoleandmaggie
    August 15, 2023 at 8:35 am | #

    I’ve been thinking… I wonder why it’s ok when Sal does it and not when Jennifer does. I think mostly it seems like Sal is an injured bird and Jennifer seems more manipulative. Or maybe it’s because Sal recants instantly while Jennifer drags things out?

    • Laura
      Laura
      August 15, 2023 at 8:38 am | #

      Probably the second, I would say.

    • Da Boy
      Da Boy
      August 15, 2023 at 8:44 am | #

      Pretty much, Jennifer is a smug manipulative rich girl whose problems are very much self-inflicted. Sal meanwhile got dealt a pretty shit hand and she is doing her best to deal with it and is actually doing pretty well.

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        August 15, 2023 at 12:57 pm | #

        Jennifer got dealt a pretty shit parental hand as well – hers is just neglect and absence papered over with money rather than Linda’s more active abuse.

        • Da Boy
          Da Boy
          August 15, 2023 at 1:47 pm | #

          True, no parenting vs shitty parenting.

    • Bash
      Bash
      August 15, 2023 at 9:10 am | #

      What specific Jennifer behavior are you referring to?

      • clif
        clif
        August 15, 2023 at 10:42 am | #

        You know. When they do IT.

        No, I have no idea either. Jennifer has done a lot of things, but I don’t recall anything directly comparable to this strip.

      • nicoleandmaggie
        nicoleandmaggie
        August 15, 2023 at 11:43 am | #

        Conflicting boyfriend expectations/instructions, hot/cold behavior, etc.

    • Andrews
      Andrews
      August 15, 2023 at 9:58 am | #

      Jennifer’s sometime behaviour comes across as offensive (as in, on the offence), while Sal’s comes across as defensive. Easier to sympathise with the latter (to me)

    • zee
      zee
      August 15, 2023 at 10:28 am | #

      Sal realizes she’s being shitty and that this is a her problem. Jennifer thinks everyone else is the problem and she’s fixed herself by cutting off her old group and changing her image. It’s the self awareness and subsequent steps to deal with her issues

      • pope suburban
        pope suburban
        August 15, 2023 at 12:07 pm | #

        Also, Sal is aware that Danny is a good audience for these things, because he doesn’t internalize this stuff or pick a fight over it. He lets her kind of talk/yell it out, then once that’s done, they talk together to process it. Their communication styles match up very well for this, so Sal doesn’t have to be as composed or as guarded as she might with someone else. I do hope Sal gets to a point where not everything has to happen with a freakout, but she’s got time and it’s pretty understandable that she’d have a lot of frustration and a limited emotional vocabulary for understanding that (Their household doesn’t seem to be big on feelings talk, not like Dorothy’s home, for example). Jennifer, on the other hand, lashes out indiscriminately, even at people who absolutely will be hurt by what she says, or think it’s personal. Then she somehow gets surprised when people avoid her because they don’t want to be hurt/yelled at again? So yeah, I get it in Sal a lot more and I think Sal will grow out of it.

        • Nicoleandmaggie
          Nicoleandmaggie
          August 15, 2023 at 12:39 pm | #

          That’s a good point. It feels like Sal will stop lashing out once she’s healed some, whereas with Jennifer it feels like that’s what you get— that’s who she wants to be.

          • pope suburban
            pope suburban
            August 15, 2023 at 2:30 pm | #

            Honestly Sal healing has been a great part of seeing her with Danny. She had to learn to trust him. She used to be a lot more distant and a lot more suspicious- she flipped right out when he got her that bicycle, for example. Since then, she might still have that initial impulse to bristle, but it seems to get a little less intense every time, and her cooldown period before she can talk it out is getting shorter. Jennifer, on the other hand, keeps on doing the same thing over and over and thinks it’s okay because she’s just like…doing it to new people who haven’t yet realized what she’s like? I really understand Alice right here; Jennifer has a lot of good qualities but she’s also quite toxic, and not a great friend for a lot of people.

            • thejeff
              thejeff
              August 15, 2023 at 2:52 pm | #

              She’d gotten a lot better before the time skip, but reset hard.

              The breakup hit her hard and I suspect Raidah’s been playing on her worst aspects since.
              I don’t think it really makes sense to say that Sal needs to heal, while that’s just what Jennifer’s like.

              • Nicoleandmaggie
                Nicoleandmaggie
                August 15, 2023 at 2:59 pm | #

                But the reason Jennifer was getting better was because her old hall didn’t put up with her garbage. Her new hall put her on a pedestal as soon as she moved—the hard reset happened before Raidah. Jennifer wants to be this way… I don’t think Sal does.

                • pope suburban
                  pope suburban
                  August 15, 2023 at 6:24 pm | #

                  Yeah, this is where I’m at. Jennifer has said she’s in therapy, and good for her if so, but we don’t see a lot of it. We see her thinking that doing the same things with different people is somehow growth or recovery. Jennifer may well have some stuff to heal from, but it doesn’t seem like healing is where her focus is at the moment. So yeah, for the time being, Sal is actively changing, while this is how Jennifer is. It doesn’t have to stay that way, it’s just that currently Jennifer has not expressed interest in changing her behavior.

                • thejeff
                  thejeff
                  August 15, 2023 at 10:16 pm | #

                  Well one big thing that she changed didn’t reset – she’s still not drinking. That’s absolutely huge.

                  But I disagree completely that the hard reset happened before Raidah. It didn’t happen when she moved dorms. The new hall did put her on a pedestal, but she got past that. The last big things we saw from her before the time skip were her getting sober, going to therapy (at least for a bit) and opening up to her new dorm about Ruth and about her problems. She’s in a good space.

                  Then there’s the Halloween flashback, the breakup with Ruth and Raidah brings her into her clique. Next time we see her is post time skip and she’s the “new improved Jennifer”.

                • Nicoleandmaggie
                  Nicoleandmaggie
                  August 15, 2023 at 10:34 pm | #

                  She’s in a good space for her, but she’s treating other people badly— as lesser beings as soon as she moves in. None of that is Raidah related. She likes being on a pedestal and maybe for her negging and mixed messages are part of that.

                • thejeff
                  thejeff
                  August 16, 2023 at 8:48 am | #

                  I meant that as she was in a good space at the end of the time skip. You’re skipping over all the development that happened between her moving dorms and the time skip.

                  She even tore her own pedestal down telling them about her Kit Fisto fanfiction. And the DUI.

  52. HoopsieDaisy
    HoopsieDaisy
    August 15, 2023 at 10:38 am | #

    Two book titles on this one, and both from Sal! What a good day.

  53. bcb
    bcb
    August 15, 2023 at 10:52 am | #

    That…is a strange book ending. Oh well, l’m excited for the next one.

  54. Ashley
    Ashley
    August 15, 2023 at 12:06 pm | #

    It’s not the best feeling, but I totally relate to Sal in this strip.

    • NGPZ
      NGPZ
      August 15, 2023 at 7:32 pm | #

      me too 😭😭😭😭🫂

  55. S.R.
    S.R.
    August 15, 2023 at 10:54 pm | #

    Yanno, that is actually some decent communication there.

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Dumbing of Age: "Up, continued" www.dumbingofage.com/2025/comic/b... #webcomic #webcomics
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The Onion @theonion.com ⋅ 1d
Where did Hollywood go so wrong? I thought movies were supposed to be an escape from reality, a chance to put your worries aside and not have to think about any underlying ideas or concepts. Well, not anymore. theonion.com/you-can...
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I’ve loved movies ever since I was a little kid. Just stepping into that dark theater, with the smell of fresh popcorn, was like being transported to a whole other world. It used to be so magical. But now I’m thinking about boycotting movies altogether. Why? Because I can’t seem to watch one anymore without […]
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
GOTTEM
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geoffrey @parsnip.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
the 90s were a wild time. if i told you how many magazines there were you wouldnt even believe me
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Aubrey Gilleran @aubreygilleran.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
It's not a new argument, of course, but Chesterton dismissed it effectively in 1908. "You will hear everlastingly... this argument that the rich man cannot be bribed. The fact is, of course, that the rich man is bribed; he has been bribed already. That is why he is a rich man."
atrupar.com's user avatarAaron Rupar @atrupar.com ⋅ 1d
Hawley dismisses Trump lining his pockets with his memecoin: "Listen, I think nobody believes that Donald Trump can be bought. I mean, what does Donald Trump need more money for?"
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Cat Manning @catacalypto.bsky.social ⋅ 10d
1984 calendar meme reading 1529, the year of the first Ottoman siege of Vienna
spavel.bsky.social's user avatarPavel🐀 @spavel.bsky.social ⋅ 11d
Who can forget the Swiss-Austrian Union, or its famous capital - Istanbul.
AI generated ad by a company called Travello showing the 10 most visited cities in Europe, except the cities are hilariously poorly placed. London is in Wales, Paris is in Ireland, Rome is in France, Rom (yes like Rome but without an E) is in Spain, Barcelona is in Morocco, Prague is in Germany, Vienna is in Italy, Istanbul is in Austria, Milan is in Libya, and Antalya is correctly shown as in Turkey but is in the wrong place. Also a few of the borders like Switzerland and Austria or Hungary and Slovenia are missing.
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
*at the very end of Andor, cassian travels through a vortex that makes everyone look a decade younger*
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
(May 14, 2026)
a bemused lucy watches as somebody collapses on her dorm room floor
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
wilbur, savvy enough to know he's in a comic strip but still not a great actor, awkwardly lifts a muffin up into frame so that we, the audience, understand that he has a muffin right now, which is very important narratively, but he's not really selling it well as an organic, human action
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
Dumbing of Age: "Up" www.dumbingofage.com/2025/comic/b... #webcomics #webcomic #dofa
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
i mean i... guess there are people who want toy-accurate hyper-articulated original-toy-look guys but in cartoon colors for some reason
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
Fuck you, Clayface!!!
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
www.ebay.com/itm/23609982... selling my LG34 Mindwipe, minus Servant
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Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Transformers Generations TakaraTomy Legends LG34 Wipe (Mindwipe), incomplete at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many pro...
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
Menace Level: up to date on his vaccinations
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
Today in #9ChickweedLane I learned Gran is back from the grave so she can jerk it to furry porn with her daughter
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
www.ebay.com/itm/23609184... 5 hours left on my 4-jet titans return tidal wave
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Check out those stickers. They make him look pretty great, actually. That aircraft carrier mode shines. Tidal Wave is loose and incomplete! So there's only four (4) jets!
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
confirming that the reason there's been no Galaxy Version female characters in Blokees until now is that they felt they needed to make Round Lady Thighs For Ladies
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
Dumbing of Age: "For you" www.dumbingofage.com/2025/comic/b... #webcomics #webcomic
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For you
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
y'know there's not an awful lot of rocketeering in The Rocketeer
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wint @dril.bsky.social ⋅ 4d
buddy you came to the wrong ass to fuck
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
Man if they were arresting judges then this'd be the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard but thankfully that's not happening.
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