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Weight stack

by David M Willis on November 21, 2023 at 12:01 am
  • 02 – It's The Love I Haven't Got
└ Tags: joyce, sarah

Discussion (139) ¬

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  1. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    November 21, 2023 at 12:03 am | #

    Sarah NO.

    • Animedingo
      Animedingo
      November 21, 2023 at 12:04 am | #

      Sarah YES

      • Doctor_Who
        Doctor_Who
        November 21, 2023 at 12:04 am | #

        Jacob MAYBE

      • Decidedly Orthogonal
        Decidedly Orthogonal
        November 21, 2023 at 1:30 am | #

        Please!

        Use your manners.

    • Angel
      Angel
      November 21, 2023 at 1:53 am | #

      given that it’s not a full size gym i’m surrpised Jacob wouldn’t hear the last thing that sarah’s shouting out lol

      • Alan Lafond
        Alan Lafond
        November 21, 2023 at 10:09 pm | #

        Cartoon physics. Sound only travels as far as what’s convenient for the plot. LOL!

  2. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    November 21, 2023 at 12:03 am | #

    that’s why I use the free gym at work that’s almost always empty! no getting kicked out!

    (also no one to be kicked out over I guess, but I use gym time to watch Crunchyroll so idk)

    • Rose by Any Other Name
      Rose by Any Other Name
      November 21, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

      This is why I don’t use the gym.

      … no, that’s a lie. I don’t use the gym because I hate formal exercise. Bleck.

      • Yotomoe
        Yotomoe
        November 21, 2023 at 12:25 am | #

        I also hate informal exercise. Exercise of all formality levels.

        • Daibhid C
          Daibhid C
          November 21, 2023 at 5:26 am | #

          I don’t go to the gym because I feel like people are judging me.

          I don’t use Wii Fit as often as I should because I feel the same way about the cartoon balance board.

          • Plaaaaaa
            Plaaaaaa
            November 21, 2023 at 7:29 am | #

            I don’t mind being judged, I just prefer being suspected but no one really being sure if I’m guilty or not.

          • Needfuldoer
            Needfuldoer
            November 21, 2023 at 10:08 am | #

            I don’t go to the gym because I have a treadmill.

            I don’t use the treadmill because outside is less boring.

            I don’t go outside because there’s people there.

    • Yumi
      Yumi
      November 21, 2023 at 12:12 am | #

      I love an almost empty gym. When i was in college, I lived in one of the older dorms, and there was a “gym” in the basement that was really just a couple machines in a basement room that was at the end of a hallway with nothing else in it. But they were machines I was okay with using, and it seemed like very few students even knew about it, so i was frequently alone when I went.

      • Thomas
        Thomas
        November 21, 2023 at 1:12 am | #

        The gym where you wipe off the machines *before* you start on them, to remove layers of dust. Also, when someone broke a toe there, they died …of starvation and dehydration.

    • Kazuma Taichi
      Kazuma Taichi
      November 21, 2023 at 6:51 pm | #

      dang, didn’t expect to hear someone still using crunchyroll in the year 2023, and certainly not in the DoA comments section

      • Ana Chronistic
        Ana Chronistic
        November 21, 2023 at 11:56 pm | #

        JujuKaisen is still updating

      • Roborat
        Roborat
        November 23, 2023 at 3:42 pm | #

        I still use it, they have a pretty good library of anime.

  3. BBCC
    BBCC
    November 21, 2023 at 12:05 am | #

    Sorry Sarah, you gotta tackle her.

    • Plaaaaaa
      Plaaaaaa
      November 21, 2023 at 7:34 am | #

      “Tackle him” was literally the advice my future wife as given as to how she should get my attention after she first met me.

      • Sere
        Sere
        November 22, 2023 at 8:23 pm | #

        That is how I got my husband. Legit strategy.

  4. Ryan
    Ryan
    November 21, 2023 at 12:05 am | #

    Joyce got her monologuing. Classic hero maneuver.

    • Thag Simmons
      Thag Simmons
      November 21, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

      She’s a sly devil

    • Jamie
      Jamie
      November 21, 2023 at 12:07 am | #

      By getting her to expound on her evil plan, no less.

      • John Campbell
        John Campbell
        November 21, 2023 at 12:55 am | #

        “There is no one on the side of Evil this tactic doesn’t work on.”

  5. Dana
    Dana
    November 21, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

    Planet Fitness’s whole business model is slimy. All gyms count on a lot of patrons not actually showing up to use the gym, but Planet Fitness directly caters to them.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      November 21, 2023 at 8:26 am | #

      Of course! It’s free real estate money.

  6. Sirksome
    Sirksome
    November 21, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

    Women get kicked out for that too actually. We live in the social media age. I’ve seen gym goers get kicked out just for filming themselves in the mirror.

  7. jeffepp
    jeffepp
    November 21, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

    How is it that Joyce is about the least socially awkward member of the cast?

    • Angel
      Angel
      November 21, 2023 at 2:05 am | #

      and has had more college relationships than sarah at this point as far as we know

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      November 21, 2023 at 8:33 am | #

      She’s extroverted and well-socialized, but most of that socialization was at church. She’s awkwardly good with people.

      Sarah’s a pretty, hardcore introvert.

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        November 21, 2023 at 11:11 am | #

        It’s funny how the comma in that last sentence completely changes the meaning, but remains true either way.

    • Mturtle7
      Mturtle7
      November 21, 2023 at 4:47 pm | #

      Hey now, there are plenty of cast members who aren’t *usually* super socially awkward. People like Joe, Jennifer, and Sal, for instance, who, from what I can tell, actually manage to pass as “normal people” in about 80% of their daily social interactions. Granted, as soon as you take them remotely out of their comfort zones, they start acting like the most awkward and embarrassing clowns imaginable, but UNTIL THEN they’re quite socially competent!

    • Kazuma Taichi
      Kazuma Taichi
      November 21, 2023 at 6:52 pm | #

      the power of medication

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        November 21, 2023 at 11:56 pm | #

        “Medication”?

        Only thing she’s taking is birth control.

  8. Jonathan
    Jonathan
    November 21, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

    In comic punchlines, you can yell at someone about someone else in the same small room as you, without them hearing. It’s just physics.

    • FlamestAndLight
      FlamestAndLight
      November 21, 2023 at 1:12 am | #

      I reckon it’s a Stage Whisper

      • milu
        milu
        November 21, 2023 at 4:27 am | #

        Or rather whatever the opposite of a stage whisper is

    • Angel
      Angel
      November 21, 2023 at 2:04 am | #

      i don’t think he is but he could’ve put in ear phones in between frames lol. or hes just going to politely pretend he didn’t hear til they approach

    • Daibhid C
      Daibhid C
      November 21, 2023 at 5:29 am | #

      The same principle also applies to Shakespeare and musicals. If Sarah was in a musical, she could sing about her plan to get Jacob’s attention, in duet with Jacob, and he’d still be none the wiser.

    • Mark
      Mark
      November 21, 2023 at 6:44 am | #

      The entire architecture department was called in to design this room as an Inverse Whispering Gallery because the admin.s just knew this sort of scene would happen frequently.

    • Slartibeast Button, BIA
      Slartibeast Button, BIA
      November 21, 2023 at 2:10 pm | #

      Time distortion, like how the monsters don’t attack or run away during magical girl transformations or how you can spout paragraphs of dialog between punches in comic books.

  9. HueSatLight
    HueSatLight
    November 21, 2023 at 12:07 am | #

    let’s call that plan B, for butt

  10. DailyBrad
    DailyBrad
    November 21, 2023 at 12:07 am | #

    I love whenever you can do a meta-joke that still totally works within the confines of the strip.

  11. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    November 21, 2023 at 12:08 am | #

    So what you’re saying is….that comic I made is 200% in character for Sarah?
    Good to know. Good to know.

    • PirateTawnee
      PirateTawnee
      November 21, 2023 at 2:11 am | #

      Any Jacob POV drawing you might happen to draw that also features Sarah “grunting and groaning a whole bunch” is literally canon.

    • Yossarianduck
      Yossarianduck
      November 21, 2023 at 2:26 am | #

      A comic you say? I believe I would like to see that.

      • Yotomoe
        Yotomoe
        November 21, 2023 at 8:24 am | #

        This one

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      November 21, 2023 at 9:07 am | #

      Willis is basically handing you art prompts.

      Should we call you Yotojourney or Midtomoe?

      • Li
        Li
        November 21, 2023 at 5:34 pm | #

        Neither? He’s an actual artist. Those programs would just spit out approximations of things Willis has already drawn. They’re high tech collage machines.

        • Needfuldoer
          Needfuldoer
          November 21, 2023 at 5:35 pm | #

          Yeah, in hindsight that wasn’t a good punning opportunity. 🙁

          • Needfuldoer
            Needfuldoer
            November 21, 2023 at 8:01 pm | #

            Sorry. 🙁

            • Li
              Li
              November 21, 2023 at 11:33 pm | #

              Aww! 🫂 Hey, everybody loves a good pun. You’re good by me, at least. ♥

  12. NGPZ
    NGPZ
    November 21, 2023 at 12:09 am | #

    You sly dog! You got her monologueing! XD

    • Opus the Poet
      Opus the Poet
      November 21, 2023 at 12:58 am | #

      We villains do love to talk.

  13. shrub
    shrub
    November 21, 2023 at 12:09 am | #

    How the hell do they expect you to lift a decent weight without letting out a decent grunt

    Don’t get me wrong there are definitely some douches out there grunting on bro curls and what not but it’s hard to deadlift some decent weight without letting out some noise

    • Sirksome
      Sirksome
      November 21, 2023 at 12:13 am | #

      I’m a bit on and off at the gym, but you can definitely tell the difference between real effort and what’s obnoxious. It’s usually not grunting in my experience, it’s lifters just dropping their weights which is both loud and unsafe, when staff starts warning you.

      • shrub
        shrub
        November 21, 2023 at 12:49 am | #

        Agreed, unless you’ve lost control of the weight theres no real reason to drop the weight.

        Lower it under control

    • Angel
      Angel
      November 21, 2023 at 2:07 am | #

      i imagine she was more going to do squats or so versus using a machine but (tho i’m sure some ppl are into it) i’d imagine a workout grunt sounds diff than a sexual/seductive one, although suddenly moaning in public outside of in a group of friends just messing around/trying to embarrass each other is a bit diff isn’t the ideal plan outside of like a one night stand lol

      • shrub
        shrub
        November 21, 2023 at 2:38 am | #

        Imagine the sound you make when you’re attempting to move a couch or push a car

        So not very sexy imho

      • LiamKav
        LiamKav
        November 21, 2023 at 7:39 am | #

        It’s actually a skill voice actors (especially female voice actors doing action anime) have to get right. Those shows often have lots of grunting and groaning and it’s important for them to not sound, well, dirty.

  14. True Survivor
    True Survivor
    November 21, 2023 at 12:09 am | #

    Does Sarah do rodeo sports?

  15. UrsulaDavina
    UrsulaDavina
    November 21, 2023 at 12:09 am | #

    Which one gets you kicked out? Is staring at a persons tush while the other person grunts while they excersie or is it grunting while presenting one’s tush to another person while excersing? beacuse I am just going to play it safe and say both would.

    • Yotomoe
      Yotomoe
      November 21, 2023 at 12:18 am | #

      I guess the question is how egregious you are in doing either. Like if you’re disturbing the peace and really going all in with the thrusting then yeah kick them out. Also if someone is staring holes in your ass or rubbernecking super hard then yeah probably kick them out too. But a grunt now and then and a glance in that direction every so often and you’ll probably be fine assuming nobody’s watching you like a hawk.

      • shrub
        shrub
        November 21, 2023 at 12:59 am | #

        Well if these guys can’t get kicked out…

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-ULXs_cPP4

        • Nymphie
          Nymphie
          November 21, 2023 at 2:01 am | #

          I don’t think those guys even went that far. Yeah they moaned like dying goats, but the staff did go and check it out. My guess is that when they got confirmed they did it for a YouTube reaction video, the staff didn’t want to bother making a bigger scene out of it since it’s become an entire meme challenge to attempt to get kicked out.

          I have seen people getting confronted (on vids, no PF here) but it has also been in combination with long drops of heavy weight

      • Decidedly Orthogonal
        Decidedly Orthogonal
        November 21, 2023 at 1:35 am | #

        I find I’m still unclear. Please sir, would you be willing to provide diagrams of these? Perchance they could feature the characters currently present in the gym?

        • Yotomoe
          Yotomoe
          November 21, 2023 at 1:51 am | #

          hmm. You are the third person to ask for such a thing.

        • David DeLaney
          David DeLaney
          November 21, 2023 at 1:53 am | #

          why, this is a job for … Faz-man!!1!

          –Dave, er, Faz-boy, he’s still in sidekick territory. so kick him inna side when he’s halfway done

    • Angel
      Angel
      November 21, 2023 at 2:09 am | #

      there was an office ep where dwight went to the gym and grunted to try to ‘seduce’ micheal’s gf to find out if she’d cheated on him lol

    • Tan
      Tan
      November 21, 2023 at 3:45 am | #

      Some years ago, Planet Fitness advertised their “Lunk Alarm” which was an alarm which would go off when someone lifting weights grunted with effort, under the rationale that this was intimidating to gym newcomers.

  16. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    November 21, 2023 at 12:10 am | #

    Also goddamn Joyce and Sarah’s fits are hot as hell.

    • Kim
      Kim
      November 21, 2023 at 1:25 am | #

      Oh Yeah! Really inspiring my wardrobe over here <3

  17. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    November 21, 2023 at 12:13 am | #

    Here’s a question.
    How do you flirt/Let someone know you’re available?

    (My method is being awkward and terrible and dying a virgin.)

    • Sirksome
      Sirksome
      November 21, 2023 at 12:17 am | #

      Let me know when you figure it out. I think everyone would like to know the secret to flirting.

    • Dday
      Dday
      November 21, 2023 at 12:19 am | #

      The trick is to make sure they are in direct view of your butt and grunt and groan a whole bunch.

      • Yotomoe
        Yotomoe
        November 21, 2023 at 12:27 am | #

        OF COURSE. HOW COULD I HAVE BEEN SO BLIND.

        • Dday
          Dday
          November 21, 2023 at 1:27 am | #

          Practice at Planet Fitness. You’ll know you’re doing it right if you get kicked out.

    • HueSatLight
      HueSatLight
      November 21, 2023 at 12:26 am | #

      during a freshmen orientation floor meeting, our RAs asked this question, I guess to guide us not to be creeps or something. But you know, nobody really wanted to participate, and it was silent. Then my future roommate volunteered “wink at them” and we all had a good laugh, and I’m laughing right now. But it’s not terrible advice.

      • Yotomoe
        Yotomoe
        November 21, 2023 at 12:29 am | #

        Especially if you bring it up at an RA meeting cuz now everyone knows that’s the “hi sign”

    • Dara
      Dara
      November 21, 2023 at 1:11 am | #

      Amulet of Mara, isn’t it?

    • Dr. Sharks
      Dr. Sharks
      November 21, 2023 at 1:37 am | #

      Hm. Tell someone who just finished a project that their project looks like they pooped on a posterboard. Naturally, they will throw a shoe at you and miss. You have to pick that shoe up and throw it in the trash can, and also miss.

      It worked for me 15 years ago and now we’re married, so clearly this is the ultimate strategy.

    • Bash
      Bash
      November 21, 2023 at 1:41 am | #

      Establish common ground to create a friendly feeling. Admire something (non-sexual) about them. Joke around together and tease them lightly. If they respond well to all of that, trying asking them out. I’m not saying I can execute all of this perfectly, but that’s the usual outline of things.

    • Angel
      Angel
      November 21, 2023 at 2:15 am | #

      i would rather have a friendly convo with a person and not be flirted with even if they compliment me/would only feel comfortable to ‘flirt’ with a group of close friends but other than joining dating apps it’d be kinda hard to find someone versus going to a bar but even then usually the guys do more approaching or some ppl might only be caring about a one night stand for it

      overall for everyone, just compliment something about them that'[s not necessariloy their looks (well maybe their smile) but i guess it depends on the person

    • Yak
      Yak
      November 21, 2023 at 3:14 am | #

      Being very explicit and straightforward about my feelings is the only thing that’s worked for me.

      • Taffy
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        November 21, 2023 at 12:48 pm | #

        The worst that can happen is a crushing and humiliating turn-down, and then the planet will keep spinning, the sky will stay where it’s at, and you’ll still be alive.

    • Lamppost
      Lamppost
      November 21, 2023 at 4:25 am | #

      I prefer just talking to people, and feeling out if I’m comfortable with them and if they seem comfortable with me. Maybe drop in some hints that I’m single, and try to pick up if they’re dropping any hints. I also don’t love physical touching, kissing, hand holding etc unless I’m _really_ comfortable with the person, so if they try before I feel ready, I will sometimes say flat out that I’m interested but I need more time to be at ease. Most people take that well! (I’m a woman btw, but this will apply to any person I’m interested in)
      But seriously, nothing beats a good, long conversation with a person I like, about whatever interests we have. It’s a way to feel out the chemistry.

    • Amós Batista
      Amós Batista
      November 21, 2023 at 5:21 am | #

      I don’t know, I’m just here to take notes.
      (Praying for a hot one find you next year, 😉)

    • Taffy
      Taffy
      November 21, 2023 at 6:52 am | #

      “By the way, I’m available and flirting with you. Is that okay?”

  18. Puppeteer Nessus
    Puppeteer Nessus
    November 21, 2023 at 12:15 am | #

    Joyce is really appealing here

    • StClair
      StClair
      November 21, 2023 at 12:17 am | #

      Seconded.

    • Yotomoe
      Yotomoe
      November 21, 2023 at 12:19 am | #

      What’s she appealing for?

      • Thomas
        Thomas
        November 21, 2023 at 1:25 am | #

        She’s appealing for Sarah to apply a less appalling strategy to win Jacob’s appraisal.

  19. Francoinblanco
    Francoinblanco
    November 21, 2023 at 12:42 am | #

    ok Sarah’s game of being hogtied and being used as a weight in a gym machine beats laundry with Dorothy

    • Opus the Poet
      Opus the Poet
      November 21, 2023 at 1:04 am | #

      Plus there’s the thing that the weights are multiplied by the leverage of the machine so Joyce will weigh more on the weight stack than alone, plus the rest of the weights times the leverage because if she’s at the bottom of the stack they have to pick up all the weights and her…

  20. FlamestAndLight
    FlamestAndLight
    November 21, 2023 at 1:05 am | #

    . . . . i’ve never been attracted to Joyce in the many years i’ve read this comic. But panel 3 Joyce is . . . hot??????

    • Steelbright
      Steelbright
      November 21, 2023 at 1:19 am | #

      Yeah IDK, i feel like Joyce has actually been getting hotter lately? Also, great avatar ✨

    • Francoinblanco
      Francoinblanco
      November 21, 2023 at 2:09 am | #

      Its “taken” aura, when somebody have boyfriend/girlfriend they are more attractive

    • Amós Batista
      Amós Batista
      November 21, 2023 at 5:18 am | #

      Her eyes are from someone with confidence. And confidence is sexy.

  21. Steelbright
    Steelbright
    November 21, 2023 at 1:18 am | #

    You know, i really like that Joyce’s plan to manipulate Sarah’s love life is like the hilarious and straightforward opposite of Sarah’s frantic plotting to get her to leave Joe earlier. Which i hope Sarah’s abandoned, and i hope she notices the parallel and feels bad, haha

    • Kim
      Kim
      November 21, 2023 at 1:28 am | #

      Great point! 😃✨

    • Angel
      Angel
      November 21, 2023 at 2:16 am | #

      Imagine if she ends up being more subtle about it like instead of “Sarah liiikes youuuu~” it’d be something like “joe and i are going to ___ for lunch after this, do you wanna join us?” as a double date thing lol

      • morleuca
        morleuca
        November 21, 2023 at 4:05 am | #

        This is exactly what I was thinking!

      • Mturtle7
        Mturtle7
        November 21, 2023 at 4:57 pm | #

        And then Sarah runs up yelling “JOYCE NO HOW DARE YOU TELL JACOB I LIKE HIM AND WANT HIM TO F*CK ME oh wait oops”

    • Amelie Wikström
      Amelie Wikström
      November 21, 2023 at 2:20 pm | #

      Well, Sarah hasn’t had any reasons to stop thinking Joe is a serial abuser whose hobby is pretending to be whatever gets him laid which is going to hurt Joyce when he disappears five minutes after orgasm instead of marrying her like she thinks he’s leading Joyce to expect. And as long as Joyce can’t come up with any better answers for that than “he said he’s trying to change”, hell, in Sarah’s shoes I’d be trying to get child protective services to take Joyce away from Joe because it looks like she’s so naive she needs a conservatorhip.

      • HueSatLight
        HueSatLight
        November 21, 2023 at 7:41 pm | #

        Jacob did vouch for Joe and his feelings. So not no reason.

        anyways, yikes for conservatorship for an 18 year old because their relationship might not last.

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          November 22, 2023 at 12:04 am | #

          How do you read that and get “because their relationship might not last”?

          Because that’s not at all what was said.

  22. David DeLaney
    David DeLaney
    November 21, 2023 at 1:56 am | #

    Sarah have you not yet learnt not to take your eyes off Joyce for fifteen seconds gaaah

    –Dave, Joyce uses Distract (sfx = eyes type = lust-filled)! it’s super-effective!

    • David DeLaney
      David DeLaney
      November 21, 2023 at 1:57 am | #

      ps: Dina will turn out to have been standing behind one of the weight machines this whole time, taking notes

      • NGPZ
        NGPZ
        November 21, 2023 at 3:12 am | #

        I really hope so

  23. Evil Fairy
    Evil Fairy
    November 21, 2023 at 2:15 am | #

    I like the visual effect of the last panel. The negative space makes it kind of look like the corner’s been torn off, and it goes well with Sarah cutting herself off.

  24. cbwroses
    cbwroses
    November 21, 2023 at 3:04 am | #

    I didn’t realize Joyce was so acrobatic.
    But it makes sense given how great a climber she is.

    • NGPZ
      NGPZ
      November 21, 2023 at 5:18 am | #

      She’s gonna make a fine pokemon trainer ^^

  25. DashWallkick
    DashWallkick
    November 21, 2023 at 4:04 am | #

    Joyce is fixing Sarah’s “I don’t like people knowing things about me” problem the only way she knows how — walking right over boundaries!

    • Big Z
      Big Z
      November 21, 2023 at 8:47 am | #

      “I learned it from you! (and Becky!)”

      • DashWallkick
        DashWallkick
        November 21, 2023 at 9:45 am | #

        Sarah is being tsundere about it anyway. She *wants* Jacob to take an interest in her, but is obviously scared of vulnerability. So Joyce is doing her a solid.

  26. thumb
    thumb
    November 21, 2023 at 4:07 am | #

    Just wanna tell Willis that I think the art in this strip is extra good.
    Carry on.

  27. milu
    milu
    November 21, 2023 at 4:43 am | #

    What up freaks 💖

    Here’s part 3 of Space Captain Julia Gray’s exclusive and quite NSFW adventure “Peace Treaty”

    … Ok the title sucks i put zero thought into it. Any ideas for a better, sexier, campier, sillier title?

    🍑✨️

    • milu
      milu
      November 21, 2023 at 4:50 am | #

      Part 1 ✨️ (nsfw)

      Part 2 ✨️ (nsfw)

      More DOA fansmut avb by clicking on my pseud 👆✨️

    • NGPZ
      NGPZ
      November 21, 2023 at 5:20 am | #

      “Not Without My Private”? XD

    • Yotomoe
      Yotomoe
      November 21, 2023 at 10:36 am | #

      Really dig your anatomy!

      • Taffy
        Taffy
        November 21, 2023 at 12:45 pm | #

        Phrasing.

        • milu
          milu
          November 21, 2023 at 3:49 pm | #

          *blushing*
          it’s okay i’ll take the compliment whichever way it’s meant

  28. Chris
    Chris
    November 21, 2023 at 4:47 am | #

    Is there meaning in the layout of the comic? Panels 1, 2, & 4, 5, are all in the same line, visually and have inked borders. They also have visual backgrounds. Panels 3 and 6, however, don’t have borders, backgrounds, and are offset down a bit as well. Just visual, to keep interest? or is there significance, such as a red background, etc.

    Darn it, now I have to start backtracking to follow the visuals.

    • Mark
      Mark
      November 21, 2023 at 6:58 am | #

      I always thought it was simply a version of the old “vary your style” advice, but I’m willing to learn.

    • TerribleTransit
      TerribleTransit
      November 21, 2023 at 7:35 am | #

      No particular significance has been observed, it’s just to break up the strip visually

    • Chubsius
      Chubsius
      November 21, 2023 at 8:11 am | #

      I’ll take a crack at some analysis, but I’m no expert. Panel three is borderless, and that kind of draws my eye in and makes me pause a little in my reading. Having no border also helps the panel linger in my mind, because there is no border to tell me this moment/subject has ended and time is moving forward. I think that helps create a feeling that Joyce is still there while Sarah is talking, and sets up the punch line. I also see it as a little visual cue that Joyce is still sneaking away, as she has literally escaped the borders that confine Sarah and is moving away slowly, backing away so such that even her speech bubbles are behind the the other panels. It’s similar to how panel two is wider as she walks away, but it’s sneakier. And when Sarah notices that she’s gone we get another borderless panel that acts as a shortcut to show us Joyce has out some real distance between them while sneaking away. If the last panel was bordered, it would kind of feel like Joyce was just off panel, like, a foot or two away. I think it would feel less like a reveal/punchline and more like there was some action or cue missing. TLDR: The layout of the panels gives the scene some temporal and physical depth and perspective to a scene that is otherwise just talking heads.

      Of course, I might be reading too much into it, but it was fun to do so.

    • Yotomoe
      Yotomoe
      November 21, 2023 at 10:37 am | #

      It’s funny because I noticed Willis will usually have one or 2 borderless panels per comic. In fact I can’t think of any strips that don’t have any. So I copied that style for my Walky/Billie comic. It is kinda fun figuring out which panel is the “splash page” to not have the borders.

    • HueSatLight
      HueSatLight
      November 21, 2023 at 2:23 pm | #

      I thinks it’s sort of a varying the look so it doesn’t look too uniform, but then they probably put in some thought if there’s a narrative purpose for the panel style.
      In panels 4&5, Sarah is in her own head, not paying attention to where Joyce is, in panel 6, she’s back to aware of her surroundings and interacting with Joyce, in a borderless panel like panel 3, where she was last aware of Joyce.

  29. Suet
    Suet
    November 21, 2023 at 5:12 am | #

    Yoooo, no background check on whether Jacob’s taken or not? Look before you leap, er, squat.

    At this point, I’d just heed Walky’s words if Sarah continues to play chicken on directly flirting

    • Mark
      Mark
      November 21, 2023 at 7:00 am | #

      Yup, failing to do the research was always my problem.

  30. Amós Batista
    Amós Batista
    November 21, 2023 at 5:24 am | #

    Sarah: grunting on gym are so gross!
    Me, at Kendo class: Well, you better cover your ears…

    • Daibhid C
      Daibhid C
      November 21, 2023 at 5:33 am | #

      How are you getting “Sarah thinks this is gross” from “This is what Sarah is going to do to attract Jacob”? Has it previously been established that Sarah thinks Jacob is attracted to gross things?

  31. Yeet
    Yeet
    November 21, 2023 at 8:54 am | #

    you could probably just exercise normally and ask him to spot you or teach you something sarah
    he’s not made of stone and showing an interest in his interests might be helpful to you here

  32. Adept
    Adept
    November 21, 2023 at 11:16 am | #

    Subtle plan Sarah

  33. Pun-ter the Harharharbarian
    Pun-ter the Harharharbarian
    November 21, 2023 at 2:57 pm | #

    At least Sarah acknowledges the double standard

  34. Roborat
    Roborat
    November 21, 2023 at 3:09 pm | #

    Well, considering how nearby Jacob is, and how loud they are talking, he probably is overhearing this conversation, so he likely knows of the continued interest anyway.

  35. Kazuma Taichi
    Kazuma Taichi
    November 21, 2023 at 6:53 pm | #

    Dang Joyce’s meds really do be working well

    • David DeLaney
      David DeLaney
      November 21, 2023 at 8:11 pm | #

      that manic smiiile

      –Dave, did she bring enough for everyone? … for Sarah?

  36. Hinoron
    Hinoron
    December 3, 2023 at 2:01 am | #

    How does the addition of blue glasses somehow enhance Joyce’s ability to look smug?

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