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May 12, 2026

Plan of attack

by David M Willis on January 11, 2024 at 12:01 am
  • 02 – It's The Love I Haven't Got
└ Tags: dorothy, jennifer, ruth

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  1. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    January 11, 2024 at 12:02 am | #

    not within earshot so much as within earNUCLEAR BLAST

    • Ana Chronistic
      Ana Chronistic
      January 11, 2024 at 12:03 am | #

      I THOUGHT THERE WERE NO ADS ON THIS COMIC DANGIT

      • Ryan
        Ryan
        January 11, 2024 at 12:04 am | #

        It was a dirty trick.

        • Cholma
          Cholma
          January 11, 2024 at 1:07 am | #

          That damn Willis sucked us in with his character development and emotional storylines, and just when we’re hooked . . . BAM! Ads.

          • clif
            clif
            January 11, 2024 at 1:45 am | #

            Technically, it was only one.

            • clif
              clif
              January 11, 2024 at 2:01 am | #

              Though equally technically, it was a re ad.

            • Jinx
              Jinx
              January 11, 2024 at 8:50 am | #

              I saw four ADs.

              • morleuca
                morleuca
                January 11, 2024 at 9:24 am | #

                Are you sure? I think If you count again, you’ll see that there are, in fact, 5 ads.

                • Decidedly Orthogonal
                  Decidedly Orthogonal
                  January 11, 2024 at 9:30 am | #

                  THERE ARE FOUR ADS!
                  –JLP

                • Caro
                  Caro
                  January 11, 2024 at 9:31 am | #

                  Counting ruth, I get 8.

                • Opus the Poet
                  Opus the Poet
                  January 11, 2024 at 8:03 pm | #

                  I recognize this reference dot gif.

    • Opus the Poet
      Opus the Poet
      January 11, 2024 at 8:09 pm | #

      Dorothy knows the doors are not soundproof because she heard every cut and scream when Amber dissected Ryan’s face with his own knife, back when he was looking to end Joyce and Amber found him first.

      • Reltzik
        Reltzik
        January 11, 2024 at 8:17 pm | #

        Given that she uses those doors a lot and that college students aren’t exactly the quietest people in the world, she probably knew that long before then.

      • C.T. Phipps
        C.T. Phipps
        January 11, 2024 at 10:59 pm | #

        I think Dorothy would be more likely to become a slasher like Amber of people like Ryan than a bank robber.

        MAKE THAT COMIC!

        • David DeLaney
          David DeLaney
          January 11, 2024 at 11:22 pm | #

          Dorothy in ten years: successful tattoo artist

  2. Thag Simmons
    Thag Simmons
    January 11, 2024 at 12:03 am | #

    Ruth aren’t you supposed to be good at sneaking up on people unnoticed

    • anon
      anon
      January 11, 2024 at 12:25 am | #

      kinda hard to sneak up with a clear glass tho i only really remember her sneaking up on walky, who isn’t the most aware person to begin with lol

      • morleuca
        morleuca
        January 11, 2024 at 9:25 am | #

        Snuck up on Sara when she skipped the floor meeting to go to Gallasso’s

    • The Chosen One
      The Chosen One
      January 11, 2024 at 1:56 pm | #

      It’s called “hiding in plain sight”

  3. Sirksome
    Sirksome
    January 11, 2024 at 12:03 am | #

    Big boobs is a fatness of sorts.

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      January 11, 2024 at 12:04 am | #

      Best kind.

    • anon
      anon
      January 11, 2024 at 12:14 am | #

      lol tho usually with weight gain ur fat doesn’t transfer to your boobs as much depending. tho i’d rather be completely flat myself xD

      maybe she should just wear a corset underneath a sweatervest or so lol

      • Yotomoe
        Yotomoe
        January 11, 2024 at 12:15 am | #

        It takes a while for fat to deposit in your breasts AND when you lose wait it’s one of the first places to lose fat.

        • Leorale
          Leorale
          January 11, 2024 at 12:21 am | #

          Gentle reminder to all: eating disorders are extremely common, all bodies are good bodies, we probably don’t want to the comments to devolve into lots of talk about weight.

          • Yotomoe
            Yotomoe
            January 11, 2024 at 12:55 am | #

            Yeh, that was certainly not my intention.

        • NGPZ
          NGPZ
          January 11, 2024 at 12:56 am | #

          that’s not how boobs work I don’t think? 😮

        • Roborat
          Roborat
          January 12, 2024 at 4:13 pm | #

          Generally, the body loses fat in the reverse order of gaining it. So the last place you gained weight will be the first place you lose it.

      • mneme
        mneme
        January 11, 2024 at 3:51 am | #

        All bodies are different. I’ve seen some people who gained some weight also gain a lot of size in the chest region. Others, yes, not so much.

        And yes, all bodies are good bodies, but people are -different-. *shrug*

        • milu
          milu
          January 11, 2024 at 6:58 am | #

          Leorale is just reminding folks that discussions around body shape can be triggering. No need to be glib.

          • Yotomoe
            Yotomoe
            January 11, 2024 at 10:07 am | #

            I don’t think they were being glib?

            • Sirksome
              Sirksome
              January 11, 2024 at 11:29 am | #

              I might regret my comment now. I was just trying to be a little cheeky, not comment or shame bodies.

          • Yumi
            Yumi
            January 11, 2024 at 5:14 pm | #

            @milu: Their comment wasn’t posted in reply to Leorale, which I think also adds to the idea that it wasn’t meant to be glib. More expanding on it in the conversation– bodies are good AND bodies are different.

            I remember a few years ago, taking part in a conversation about bodies with some folks, and one commented how when they gained weight, the first place it went was to their chest. When they told their friends about this, their friends were like, “Okay, shut up, that’s nothing to complain about.” But they didn’t *like* having a larger chest. In fact, it was a great source of gender dysphoria for them, but they weren’t out as trans yet and I think even still considered themself a cis woman, so it was hard to put that into words.

            So, I guess just adding another angle: sometimes the weight goes to your boobs and it SUCKS.

            • milu
              milu
              January 11, 2024 at 6:00 pm | #

              oh ok, @yumi & @yotomoe, i must’ve misread, thanks for letting me know. @mneme sorry for that comment.

    • Yotomoe
      Yotomoe
      January 11, 2024 at 12:15 am | #

      The best kinda fatness, really.

  4. quark
    quark
    January 11, 2024 at 12:04 am | #

    these two should be in a buddy cop movie

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      January 11, 2024 at 12:04 am | #

      Femurs & Fisto: They’re (shitty) Cops.

      • Karadaga
        Karadaga
        January 11, 2024 at 12:34 am | #

        How about we DON’T us Kit Fisto’s last name alone, lest he be confused with a certain post-apocalyptic robot whose name is a lot more appropriate?

        • Miafillene
          Miafillene
          January 11, 2024 at 4:34 am | #

          Fisto from Fallout NV. Not just a Star Wars name.

          • morleuca
            morleuca
            January 11, 2024 at 9:28 am | #

            Also one of dr kreiger’s inventions in Archer, but that was using his formal name: Mr. Fister

            • Jeff K!
              Jeff K!
              January 11, 2024 at 11:05 am | #

              Also one of the heroic Masters of the Universe.
              He fisted hard, but he could not fist them all.

    • AlexaSpuds
      AlexaSpuds
      January 11, 2024 at 12:06 am | #

      I think they should be in a romance film.

      • Thag Simmons
        Thag Simmons
        January 11, 2024 at 12:07 am | #

        you can do both at the same time!

      • Jamie
        Jamie
        January 12, 2024 at 11:54 pm | #

        Is that not what buddy cop movies are? 😛

    • milu
      milu
      January 11, 2024 at 12:23 am | #

      Except instead of being humorless bastards like real cops, they would be quirky and endearing

      Oh wait, that’s every cop media already??!

      • Decidedly Orthogonal
        Decidedly Orthogonal
        January 11, 2024 at 9:37 am | #

        Watch them as they humourously violate due process and all of someone’s rights so they can catch the bad guy. It’s ok though, because they’re cute, funny, and right!

        Narrator: They were not – in fact – right. The convicted person died in prison after being denied an appeal by SCOTUS despite overwhelming evidence exonerating them. The actual culprit retired in Monterey, California, had a lodge in Colorado, and did autumns in Maine, because they love watching the season turn. Buddies retired with full pensions.

        • milu
          milu
          January 11, 2024 at 6:05 pm | #

          there’s a whole range of issues with copaganda, not all of them necessarily present at the same time. but one they share is that they disproportionately humanize cops. whether they are portrayed as clumsy fun guys or corrupt jerks it becomes harder to see the systemic forest for the cop character trees.

          But, also they are disproportionately shown in a friendly light in the media.

          • C.T. Phipps
            C.T. Phipps
            January 11, 2024 at 10:56 pm | #

            Ironically, the best treatment of cops is usually when they’re “rogue” cops because every other cop is dirty, corrupt, or incompetent. Even then, the issues are ones that sometimes even the Left ignores.

            A lot of Left in America talk a big game about the cops but pretend that it begins with them versus the fact they are enforcing the unjust system exactly as it’s designed in Washington.

    • anon
      anon
      January 11, 2024 at 12:33 am | #

      lol rival nemesis in hitman/assassination companies would be fun

  5. NGPZ
    NGPZ
    January 11, 2024 at 12:04 am | #

    🤣🤣🤣

    • NGPZ
      NGPZ
      January 11, 2024 at 12:07 am | #

      *plays “Team Rocket’s Secret Strategy” on hacked muzak*

  6. Rose by Any Other Name
    Rose by Any Other Name
    January 11, 2024 at 12:05 am | #

    … titty shirt…
    **giggles**

    • NGPZ
      NGPZ
      January 11, 2024 at 12:26 am | #

      heeheeheehee ^^

    • anon
      anon
      January 11, 2024 at 12:33 am | #

      are shirts are titty shirts if you’re bold enough/make it tight fitted 8D;

      • Dante
        Dante
        January 11, 2024 at 2:41 am | #

        Yeah, it’s def a skill issue. Attitude, even :3c

      • Ana Chronistic
        Ana Chronistic
        January 12, 2024 at 11:57 pm | #

        had a church girl yell at me for having a “belly shirt” bc it was a short shirt

        (since then I have worn oversize shirts, just so I can tuck the damn things in)

        • Ana Chronistic
          Ana Chronistic
          January 12, 2024 at 11:58 pm | #

          (the “belly” shirt looked perfectly normal on me)

  7. DailyBrad
    DailyBrad
    January 11, 2024 at 12:05 am | #

    Titty Shirts in freezing temperatures are bracing, but also, a reminder that it’s not polite to point.

    • True Survivor
      True Survivor
      January 11, 2024 at 12:21 am | #

      Subtle, sexual, numerically and syntactically symmetric with the subject – spectacular.
      I bow before your brilliance, oh Lord of Puns.

    • Proxiehunter
      Proxiehunter
      January 11, 2024 at 12:27 am | #

      I’m sure the pointing is part of what Ruth noticed.

    • anon
      anon
      January 11, 2024 at 12:34 am | #

      lol i’d rather ppl not see my nipples protruding even if i didn’t mind showing a bit of my cleavage but i feel like it’d be more effective to wear like a pushup bra over a normal warm and nice fitted shirt versus just like a bralette/sports bra as a top in the snow

    • Lokitsu
      Lokitsu
      January 11, 2024 at 1:22 am | #

      You could put someone’s eye out!

      • Opus the Poet
        Opus the Poet
        January 11, 2024 at 8:15 pm | #

        Another reference I “get”.

    • milu
      milu
      January 11, 2024 at 6:13 am | #

      When the wise boob points at the moon, the fool stares at the nip.

    • David DeLaney
      David DeLaney
      January 11, 2024 at 7:47 am | #

      nippl go *spung*

  8. AlexaSpuds
    AlexaSpuds
    January 11, 2024 at 12:06 am | #

    AD

    • Thag Simmons
      Thag Simmons
      January 11, 2024 at 12:06 am | #

      ‘AD

      • True Survivor
        True Survivor
        January 11, 2024 at 12:08 am | #

        CE

    • HueSatLight
      HueSatLight
      January 11, 2024 at 12:12 am | #

      Anno Dorotheae

      • milu
        milu
        January 11, 2024 at 6:14 am | #

        You could make a religion out of this

        • David DeLaney
          David DeLaney
          January 11, 2024 at 11:25 pm | #

          “I bless this femur in the name of Saint Ruthless”

  9. Imogen
    Imogen
    January 11, 2024 at 12:07 am | #

    I love these two together. Not necessarily in a healthy relationship kind of love. I just like reading them together. We need more messy sapphic relationships in the comic.

    • Thag Simmons
      Thag Simmons
      January 11, 2024 at 12:09 am | #

      Not quite full “they deserve each other (derogatory)” but they’re definitely pretty close

    • anon
      anon
      January 11, 2024 at 12:36 am | #

      “bickered married couple but they’ve been divorced over three lifetimes/reincarnation cycles”

      • Dante
        Dante
        January 11, 2024 at 1:38 am | #

        “I’ll find you and divorce you, every time”

        “Do you promise?”

        “I do.”

  10. UrsulaDavina
    UrsulaDavina
    January 11, 2024 at 12:07 am | #

    Again leaving things to Becky sounds like a better plan and you don’t have to go outside.

    • anon
      anon
      January 11, 2024 at 12:22 am | #

      becky does care deep down, plus she’s more or less aware that dorothy turned down yale tho idk if they rly talked about walky otherwise

      • Coatl
        Coatl
        January 11, 2024 at 12:34 am | #

        It’s been a long time since she and Dorothy have interacted, it sounds quite unlikely, but sometimes I think that it could be Becky who can really help the blonde, I mean that concern in the letter, it kind of implied that this “rivalry” It was nothing more than a game for the redhead.

        • anon
          anon
          January 11, 2024 at 12:38 am | #

          maybe some kinda group intervention (well, more like sharing circle/amateur therapy 8D) of booster, becky, joyce ruth & jen and walky and anyone else being aroudn and adding their 2 cents as they say

          • Coatl
            Coatl
            January 11, 2024 at 12:50 am | #

            Booster wouldn’t hesitate to do so. But I wonder if the rest would be willing to really collaborate. The only ones who would show greater confidence in talking would be Becky and Jennifer, but the latter would create more conflict with Ruth. Although Joyce would not hesitate to help, I don’t think she would be willing to provide authentic transparency. In the situation (I think she hasn’t even gone to therapy), Walky wouldn’t feel comfortable at all, but I think he would finally realize that Dorothy is a girl who can have problems like any human being and not only is she an “organizational excellence” and realizes that although it was not intentional, he also hurt her

            • Dante
              Dante
              January 11, 2024 at 1:36 am | #

              I’d legit throw Booster at this entire cast on a one-by-one basis and see what happens. I know they’d want to help. I also know they’re a first year psych study and therefore more full of good intentions (and themselves) than praxis… But that’s already more than the campus therapists do, and Dorothy needs a friend who doesn’t idolize her.

              • Coatl
                Coatl
                January 11, 2024 at 2:11 am | #

                Exactly, as much as Joyce wants to help, the result is really intriguing…and said result I fear will not be something positive, and well, if I have learned from this comic, it is to expect the unexpected.

                Many in the comments have put Joyce x Dorothy on a pedestal, but two other options have recently appeared:
                Jennifer and Jacob, about Jennifer I can only say that she is a loved and hated character, but to be honest I think that it would harm the poor blonde more than benefit her, although if Dorothy at some point can’t stand it anymore, she may be able to tell extremely strong truths that shocked everyone. Jacob is the least likely, however, it would be an opportunity for Dorothy to meet other people who are not from her usual circle. In fact, I have commented that even a friendship between the two is valid and acceptable, of course this would cause misunderstandings between them. Sarah and Joyce and the latter is able to encourage her partner to do something stupid, but I also want to believe that not everything is chaotic, and Sarah realizes that there is nothing like that and even sees Dorothy in a different way, well honestly, I have not seen a very strong link between the two and they are only committed to helping Joyce and I dare say that now a true link could emerge.

                Amber is immersed in her own affairs, but showing that consideration in a game of Mario Kart gives her points in her favor and yes, it may sound absurd, but I think she would be the older sister that Dorothy needs.

                And now, this may be the most absurd option of all, but it could be that Roz is that person.

                I clarify, all this is just a personal opinion, but I agree that a person who treats Dorothy like a human being is the right option, the question is… who?

                Sorry, I posted the comment in the wrong place.

                • Dante
                  Dante
                  January 11, 2024 at 3:02 am | #

                  It’s all ok! ^^ I’m reading and nodding along. I think the option I like the most here is Amber, and not only because I’m biased about her, ok ok hear me out. The Mario Kart strips showed potential for a really nice complementary dynamic.

                  Amber is smart. Extremely so, even, but she’s not ambitious and (please correct me if I’m mistaken), she hasn’t expressed any dreams for the future – mainly because she’s until very recently not believed she has any. This… Is not great. But also, Dorothy’s idealization of a job she was ill suited for meant an extreme sort of ambition that allowed for no mistakes and was bound to do away with her mental health. So now she’s in the middle of her very own crisis of faith.

                  I think Dorothy could learn to chill from Amber (instead of just having a Fun Times Boyfriend), like, it’s okay if she’s not at her 10000% all the time? And Amber could learn it’s ok to see yourself living enough to graduate so what would you like to do? Notice this isn’t a “teach her” but a “learn from” – Amber wouldn’t let her get overbearing. And she’s seen The Horrors so Dorothy wouldn’t have to be Perfectly Mentally Healthy(tm) around her. IDK. It’s 5am here. But it feels nicer than Being Garbage Together At Garbage Roof. Like yeah, let’s have Saturdays of (doing) Nothing, but also, we could keep each other moving?

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        January 11, 2024 at 3:09 am | #

        Yeah, Becky masks with the same veneer of carefree goofiness as Walky.

  11. True Survivor
    True Survivor
    January 11, 2024 at 12:07 am | #

    They might be helping. After all, Dorothy finds reward and helping others and who needs help more than these poor idiots?

    • UrsulaDavina
      UrsulaDavina
      January 11, 2024 at 12:10 am | #

      Reverse uno for Dotty or Reverse duo eh? Eh! Ehhhh….

    • anon
      anon
      January 11, 2024 at 12:20 am | #

      maybe they can circle around to helping jason stay in teh country (yeah robin did hire him but i woudln’t be surprised if no one filled out the proper paperwork to where it would be an issue with him later down the line)

  12. ian livs
    ian livs
    January 11, 2024 at 12:09 am | #

    Wow, ads really are everywhere these days (lol)

    • UrsulaDavina
      UrsulaDavina
      January 11, 2024 at 12:10 am | #

      Look at the ad before you Read it.

    • BarerMender
      BarerMender
      January 11, 2024 at 12:39 am | #

      Getcha an ad blocker. I don’t see any ads.

      • BarerMender
        BarerMender
        January 11, 2024 at 12:43 am | #

        Oh, wait. You were making a joke about the…yeah. Many people have told me my sense of humor is defective.

        • Dante
          Dante
          January 11, 2024 at 1:31 am | #

          If it helps, I didn’t notice until, like. NOW. After a lot of ???ing :’33

          • BarerMender
            BarerMender
            January 12, 2024 at 1:07 am | #

            Thanks. That does help, a little.

  13. RassilonTDavros
    RassilonTDavros
    January 11, 2024 at 12:09 am | #

    God, I’ve missed these two interacting.

  14. Dante
    Dante
    January 11, 2024 at 12:09 am | #

    What kind of Canadian are you, Ruth, come on. Y’all are insane and stand -0° Celsius in shorts, I’ve seen it.

    • Thag Simmons
      Thag Simmons
      January 11, 2024 at 12:11 am | #

      Jennifer’s the one complaining about the cold, and she’s not Canadian

      as far as we know, at least

      • Dante
        Dante
        January 11, 2024 at 12:19 am | #

        Jennifer might be complaining. But Ruth is scandalized about her snow tank top. Why did she notice? Why doth she remark upon such sight?

        Only the gods may know the answer.

        • milu
          milu
          January 11, 2024 at 12:34 am | #

          Why does she sound so defensive about having noticed?

          It’s very difficult to say.

          • Dante
            Dante
            January 11, 2024 at 1:25 am | #

            But, see. Ruth was commenting on the tank top. Jennifer HAD to remark “yeah but pls remember I have fat boobs”, so this muddles things further ;3

            • milu
              milu
              January 11, 2024 at 6:51 am | #

              Right! The semantic intricacies of this conversation are mindboggling

        • BarerMender
          BarerMender
          January 11, 2024 at 12:40 am | #

          Why? Because she’s desperately in love, and also horny as a tin-peckered owl.

          • BarerMender
            BarerMender
            January 11, 2024 at 1:14 am | #

            Was that another attempt at subtlety? I’m dropping the ball right and left.

            • Dante
              Dante
              January 11, 2024 at 1:24 am | #

              It’s not my forte nowadays either tbh TwT Burnout. But yeah, god, Ruth still loves her and it would almost hurt to see if their irritation with each other wasn’t so consistently funny.

              Which are famous last words. Willis will knife us with Ruth/Billie (Jennifer?) genuine feels soon, I know it.

            • David DeLaney
              David DeLaney
              January 11, 2024 at 11:28 pm | #

              when subtlety circles around to casual outright overt frankness

              –Dave, it’s okay, none of them have dropped their balls yet. …neither has Howard

          • Roborat
            Roborat
            January 12, 2024 at 4:26 pm | #

            Well, there is a phrase I have never run across before. How does tin peckered status affect horniness?

    • anon
      anon
      January 11, 2024 at 12:18 am | #

      well it probably has been a while since she’s been in canada, and just because you can doesn’t mean that an RA necessarily would go out in the same kinda atheletic wear you’d see someone in summer do

      • Dante
        Dante
        January 11, 2024 at 1:27 am | #

        How cold does it get in Indiana btw? I have no frame of reference except “it snows on winter” (which is crazy cold to me – so it probs doesn’t count.)

        • Coatl
          Coatl
          January 11, 2024 at 2:08 am | #

          Exactly, as much as Joyce wants to help, the result is really intriguing…and said result I fear will not be something positive, and well, if I have learned from this comic, it is to expect the unexpected.

          Many in the comments have put Joyce x Dorothy on a pedestal, but two other options have recently appeared:
          Jennifer and Jacob, about Jennifer I can only say that she is a loved and hated character, but to be honest I think that it would harm the poor blonde more than benefit her, although if Dorothy at some point can’t stand it anymore, she may be able to tell extremely strong truths that shocked everyone. Jacob is the least likely, however, it would be an opportunity for Dorothy to meet other people who are not from her usual circle. In fact, I have commented that even a friendship between the two is valid and acceptable, of course this would cause misunderstandings between them. Sarah and Joyce and the latter is able to encourage her partner to do something stupid, but I also want to believe that not everything is chaotic, and Sarah realizes that there is nothing like that and even sees Dorothy in a different way, well honestly, I have not seen a very strong link between the two and they are only committed to helping Joyce and I dare say that now a true link could emerge.

          Amber is immersed in her own affairs, but showing that consideration in a game of Mario Kart gives her points in her favor and yes, it may sound absurd, but I think she would be the older sister that Dorothy needs.

          And now, this may be the most absurd option of all, but it could be that Roz is that person.

          I clarify, all this is just a personal opinion, but I agree that a person who treats Dorothy like a human being is the right option, the question is… who?

        • Coatl
          Coatl
          January 11, 2024 at 2:11 am | #

          Sorry, I posted the comment in the wrong place.

        • milu
          milu
          January 11, 2024 at 6:53 am | #

          It borders Canada? Need i say more

          …Good cuz that is all i know about Indiana and even that might not be true, although there is literally no way to find out for sure

          • Darasara
            Darasara
            January 11, 2024 at 4:25 pm | #

            Not only is Michigan in the way, the norther border for Indiana in just under 10km south of the southern most land-point in Canada (and Bloomington is around 280km further south).

            But Pelee & it’s little neighbours do extend sound of norther edge of Indiana (But still far north of Bloomington area.

            • milu
              milu
              January 11, 2024 at 6:07 pm | #

              haha, so that one thing i thought i knew about indiana was hilariously inaccurate, thank you XD

              • David DeLaney
                David DeLaney
                January 11, 2024 at 11:29 pm | #

                though there’s nothing to really STOP cold vortices of arctic wind, should one decide to wander south fom Canadia, between there and Indiana. All pret-ty flat.

        • Mark
          Mark
          January 11, 2024 at 7:02 am | #

          20s/30s this week, looking at lows just below 0 (Fahrenheit) next week. Teens/twenties is not uncommon. The record low is -26⁰F.

          • Mark
            Mark
            January 11, 2024 at 7:09 am | #

            Ruth could be remembering one of those “it snowed last night, now it’s 47⁰” days.

          • milu
            milu
            January 11, 2024 at 7:18 am | #

            I dont know how fahrenheit works but i have a few points of reference:
            0 is really fucking cold
            40 is freezing
            100 is human body temperature
            350 is pie-baking temperature
            451 is paper burning temperature

            (ish, the point is not for me to be literate in your freakish scale, just to get a rough sense of what americans are on about)

            • milu
              milu
              January 11, 2024 at 7:19 am | #

              Oh i also know that celsius and fahrenheit intersect at -40

            • J.Gawain
              J.Gawain
              January 11, 2024 at 7:48 am | #

              Actually, 30F is closer to the point that water freezes. 40 is a little warmer than you want your fridge operating.

            • HueSatLight
              HueSatLight
              January 11, 2024 at 2:09 pm | #

              Metric’s good for a lot of things, even Celcius in some cases. But Fahrenheit is better for weather than C, and that’s a hill I’ll die on. 32 F is where clean water freezes, 10 is where pond water freezes, 40 is jacket weather. 50 is chilly. 70 is nice. 80 is warm. 90 is hot.
              Air temperature below 0 and above 100 is where its really dangerous. -18 C to 38 C is not an intuitive scale.

              Also metric weeks kind of sucked.

              • milu
                milu
                January 11, 2024 at 6:08 pm | #

                well, but Celsius is really good at being the system that I grew up using

                • milu
                  milu
                  January 11, 2024 at 6:10 pm | #

                  (i’m being silly. i shouldn’t have called fahrenheit freakish, not because it isn’t, but because i don’t have an opinion on it actually)

      • Roborat
        Roborat
        January 12, 2024 at 4:28 pm | #

        Also, Canada is a really big country, winter for someone from southern Ontario is going to mean something different from someone from Vancouver, or northern Alberta.

  15. BBCC
    BBCC
    January 11, 2024 at 12:11 am | #

    They mean well, Dorothy, they mean well!

    • anon
      anon
      January 11, 2024 at 12:16 am | #

      Do they, tho? ;P

      Although, while ruth can’t be there for everyone obviously but i doubt she’s checking in as often as other ppl might need, even if dorothys issues stand out the most right now

      • Bash
        Bash
        January 11, 2024 at 3:09 am | #

        Good intentions, bad execution.

  16. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    January 11, 2024 at 12:14 am | #

    Oh she’s fat, alright. It’s just all in my chest.

    • anon
      anon
      January 11, 2024 at 12:15 am | #

      A thicc queen, as they say

      • NGPZ
        NGPZ
        January 11, 2024 at 12:18 am | #

        😳🥴

        • David DeLaney
          David DeLaney
          January 11, 2024 at 7:53 am | #

          • David DeLaney
            David DeLaney
            January 11, 2024 at 7:54 am | #

            grr. how about this then
            *plays Home Free’s The Butts Remix on the hacked muzak*

  17. milu
    milu
    January 11, 2024 at 12:17 am | #

    – Oh right. you obviously just wanna fuck me!
    – oh, and you don’t want to fuck me, maybe?!
    – …
    – …

    • NGPZ
      NGPZ
      January 11, 2024 at 1:06 am | #

      *plays “Closer” by Nine Inch Nails on hacked muzak*

      (this is the 69th comment BTW)

      • Dante
        Dante
        January 11, 2024 at 1:27 am | #

        Nice

    • Dante
      Dante
      January 11, 2024 at 1:28 am | #

      They should Make Love Not War about it

      • milu
        milu
        January 11, 2024 at 6:43 am | #

        Haha 😙 well, progress report:

        Bit more than i can chew maybe, i keep wanting to draw huge 5-person panels with whacky poses because I’ve put in all this hard work to somehow justify a flying orgy… So that’s a bit of a challenge haha. Also i gotta be honest after all this narrative creativity that i am kinda proud of, im kind of out of ideas for the story besides some general sense of “and then they fuck.”

        None of that withstanding i do have an update in the works. So at least a few more pictures should pop up in 2024 =3

        But also the world is very fucked so even though im a deeply lazy person i did end up doing a lot of Palestine solidarity activism lately. Sometimes activism is self-care. Not the most conducive lifestyle to producing silly porn scifi fanart, but i do still need my escapist hobbies now and then. In the meantime, have a watercolour of a pachycephalosaur (hi Sal) headbutting a cop

        • milu
          milu
          January 11, 2024 at 6:48 am | #

          (And while it’s true pachys *may* not have been using their big dome heads to headbutt each other, a) jury’s still out b) human heads have been used to headbutt other humans (and also cops) so surely pachys could (and would) do the same given half the chance.)

          • Dante
            Dante
            January 12, 2024 at 1:48 am | #

            Milu, the entirety of these comments have me STARRY EYED. Goddamn, I love everything you’re saying and all it implies.

            I’m cheering on you with the comic!!!11!! It’ll work and it’s gonna be beautiful!!11!! And also, on whichever avenue of self-care you’re choosing ;wwww;

        • HueSatLight
          HueSatLight
          January 11, 2024 at 1:43 pm | #

          its beautiful

          • milu
            milu
            January 11, 2024 at 6:12 pm | #

            it was my christmas present to my parents =D

  18. Kitschensyngk
    Kitschensyngk
    January 11, 2024 at 12:19 am | #

    Aren’t there enough ADs on this site already?

  19. Alongcameaspider
    Alongcameaspider
    January 11, 2024 at 12:22 am | #

    This is going great

  20. Schpoonman
    Schpoonman
    January 11, 2024 at 12:26 am | #

    Yeah, they’re definitely less than 5 feet away.

  21. milu
    milu
    January 11, 2024 at 12:32 am | #

    Dorothy: maybe i should approach them and say, i noticed from across the glass doors that you both seem like you could use a good fucking.

  22. JA
    JA
    January 11, 2024 at 12:33 am | #

    How have I gone 39 years of life and never heard a tank top called a titty shirt?

    • BarerMender
      BarerMender
      January 11, 2024 at 12:45 am | #

      Right? I’ve gone a lot longer than that. I’m glad I didn’t die without ever hearing it.

    • Dante
      Dante
      January 11, 2024 at 1:29 am | #

      It’s sonorous. It’s sublime. I didn’t know I needed it

    • milu
      milu
      January 11, 2024 at 7:02 am | #

      It does sound a lot hotter (and hey, less classist!) than wifebeater.

  23. Now
    Now
    January 11, 2024 at 1:14 am | #

    [insert “Willis please do something about your website there are big ‘AD’s in the middle of the comic again” joke here]

    • Mark
      Mark
      January 11, 2024 at 7:07 am | #

      They’ve even snuck into the hovertext. Where will it end?

  24. Rabisch
    Rabisch
    January 11, 2024 at 3:33 am | #

    I’m kinda afraid these two might return together. But then I remember Ruth is determined to be a healthier, better person and my fear go away. The chemistry is strong, but the desire for a good life is even stronger.

    • milu
      milu
      January 11, 2024 at 7:06 am | #

      I’m kinda afraid these two might not return together. But then i remember Ruth is determined to remain a horny alcoholic and my fear goes away. The chemistry is strong and the desire for a good fuck is even stronger.

      • Firseal
        Firseal
        January 11, 2024 at 6:02 pm | #

        Ruth has healthy options now. Ruth also recognises that any relationship with Jennifer is like microwave popcorn. Sure, fun in the moment, but little-to-no nutritional value, is a bit cheap, and its kinda like styrafoam after awhile.

        So yeah, unless Ruth has a history of making the worst choices… oh.

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          January 11, 2024 at 6:14 pm | #

          I’m pretty sure she doesn’t recognize that. I’m not even sure it’s true.

          They helped each other get better, despite their problems and they’ve regressed a lot since they broke up.

          • C.T. Phipps
            C.T. Phipps
            January 11, 2024 at 10:53 pm | #

            I mean, no they didn’t. Ruth was getting worse and so was Jennifer until they got forced into therapy by Carla.

            • Li
              Li
              January 12, 2024 at 5:26 am | #

              That doesn’t actually make what thejeff said untrue. All you’ve argued is “but BEFORE they helped each other get better, they helped each other get worse for a while”. Carla didn’t join the relationship and hold their hands and force them to get sober and go to therapy continually for months over their protests; she just happened to be part of the recovery from that one crisis point.

        • Li
          Li
          January 12, 2024 at 5:29 am | #

          Sure do love this extremely revisionist version of the breakup where Ruth broke up with Billie because she “finally realized Billie was an awful partner”, instead of what actually happened on-panel, which was Ruth saying repeatedly, out loud, with her mouth, that Billie was wonderful and she’d never been happier in her life, but she was afraid that someday she might slide back into self-destructive depression and that she might take Billie with her in the process.

  25. Amós Batista
    Amós Batista
    January 11, 2024 at 3:42 am | #

    “Yes, mom, dad, I can hear you fighting through the door, you van stop pretending.”

  26. PedanticJerkass
    PedanticJerkass
    January 11, 2024 at 4:40 am | #

    Is this the first conversation between Ruth and Jennifer that’s been shown since the timeskip (not including flashbacks) that’s been anything at all more than just a few short venom-laden barbs?

    • Jeremiah
      Jeremiah
      January 11, 2024 at 6:44 am | #

      And don’t forget the longer venom-lamden confrontations.

      • David DeLaney
        David DeLaney
        January 11, 2024 at 7:58 am | #

        ship has been retitled Venom-Lambda

  27. june gloom
    june gloom
    January 11, 2024 at 5:37 am | #

    Ruth and Jennifer are the worst for each other. I love it.

    • eskimolos
      eskimolos
      January 11, 2024 at 3:42 pm | #

      right? I could just watch these two for the rest of willis’ drawing career.

  28. Grayfinity
    Grayfinity
    January 11, 2024 at 6:24 am | #

    Ruth: “Just because I broke up with you doesn’t I’m gonna find you less attractive!”

    Jennifer: “You still could’ve had all of this if you weren’t so stubborn!”

    Gosh, I wish my desire to draw wasn’t so fleeting. 😶

    • milu
      milu
      January 11, 2024 at 6:49 am | #

      Crowd: DRAW DRAW DRAW DRAW

  29. Daibhid C
    Daibhid C
    January 11, 2024 at 6:54 am | #

    Ha! I spent the first three panels trying to visualise where Ruthjen were, and deciding probably a building opposite. Because obviously they wouldn’t be having this discussion less than a metre behind her.

    Of course they would.

    • a/snow/mous/e
      a/snow/mous/e
      January 11, 2024 at 12:21 pm | #

      I think they might’ve been talking in hushed tones, and that lasted for all of one panel before Jennifer started complaining about the cold and they both forgot what they were doing.

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        January 11, 2024 at 2:37 pm | #

        If the pre-complaining part was hushed, at least Dorothy wouldn’t know there was a plan aimed at her.

  30. Buli-Buli
    Buli-Buli
    January 11, 2024 at 7:11 am | #

    Give in to those negative urges just this once Dorothy.
    Tattle on Jennifer.
    Her boyfriend deserves to know Jennifer is flirting with her Ex again.

    Also their brand of glirting is loud and disturbing in both meanings of the word.

    • poyo
      poyo
      January 11, 2024 at 11:57 am | #

      oh i have a feeling their relationship is not long for this world anyway lol

      • a/snow/mous/e
        a/snow/mous/e
        January 11, 2024 at 12:28 pm | #

        Yep, Jennifer might carry the torch for Ruth, but Asher’s holding a candle for Ethan, and his relationship with Jennifer doesn’t hold a candle to that match! Hot stuff

  31. ValdVin
    ValdVin
    January 11, 2024 at 7:43 am | #

    Has Jennifer been getting fashion advice from Jamie McJack over at GWS?

  32. Yeet
    Yeet
    January 11, 2024 at 10:06 am | #

    just go outside and ask her if she wants to get railed idiots

  33. Adept
    Adept
    January 11, 2024 at 11:46 am | #

    mmm titty shirt

  34. Megan Rivera
    Megan Rivera
    January 11, 2024 at 3:22 pm | #

    Man the facial expressions in this comic have really been S tier in the last month or two, I swear, I absolutely love watching a comic’s art evolve over time, it’s SO freaking cool!! ♥♥♥

  35. Booster Above Replacement
    Booster Above Replacement
    January 11, 2024 at 5:33 pm | #

    The permeability of surfaces to various types of radiation is highly variable in the DOAverse. For instance, Joe was able to hide behind a glass door (and yell at Amber, IIRC, although maybe it was implied to be a stage whisper) yet remain undetected at Becky’s mom’s birthday party. And Jennifer remarked that the dorm’s interior walls are impressively soundproof or her relationship with Ruth would have been much more obvious.

  36. Firseal
    Firseal
    January 11, 2024 at 5:54 pm | #

    Character tips for Ruth – next time, note that you would notice anyone wearing a titty shirt in freezing temperatures.

    First, because this is true. Even in summer warmth, its easy to notice a titty shirt. They stand out (in more ways than one if the wearer is well endowed) even on a college campus, which is usually why someone wears one – to draw attention for whatever reason. Doing it in winter is even more of a cry for the spotlight.

    Second, noting anything that personally attaches to Jennifer/Billie is… a bad idea. It lets her know she’s getting attention, particularly attention from you, Ruth. Whatever lingering attraction you feel for this woman, remember that you literally baracaded your door to keep her out. Give her space, and she’ll just be back in and hurting you again. Keep your responses general, rather than vulnerable.

    Third, Ruth? You have been in that building how long? You know that glass isn’t soundproofed. You know Dorothy doesn’t care about making snowballs with reckless attire choices. Unless this is to distract her to soften her up to talk to, all you are doing is losing on both fronts with this digression.

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geoffrey @parsnip.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
the 90s were a wild time. if i told you how many magazines there were you wouldnt even believe me
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Aubrey Gilleran @aubreygilleran.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
It's not a new argument, of course, but Chesterton dismissed it effectively in 1908. "You will hear everlastingly... this argument that the rich man cannot be bribed. The fact is, of course, that the rich man is bribed; he has been bribed already. That is why he is a rich man."
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Hawley dismisses Trump lining his pockets with his memecoin: "Listen, I think nobody believes that Donald Trump can be bought. I mean, what does Donald Trump need more money for?"
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Cat Manning @catacalypto.bsky.social ⋅ 12d
1984 calendar meme reading 1529, the year of the first Ottoman siege of Vienna
spavel.bsky.social's user avatarPavel🐀 @spavel.bsky.social ⋅ 12d
Who can forget the Swiss-Austrian Union, or its famous capital - Istanbul.
AI generated ad by a company called Travello showing the 10 most visited cities in Europe, except the cities are hilariously poorly placed. London is in Wales, Paris is in Ireland, Rome is in France, Rom (yes like Rome but without an E) is in Spain, Barcelona is in Morocco, Prague is in Germany, Vienna is in Italy, Istanbul is in Austria, Milan is in Libya, and Antalya is correctly shown as in Turkey but is in the wrong place. Also a few of the borders like Switzerland and Austria or Hungary and Slovenia are missing.
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