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Do not disturb

by David M Willis on October 12, 2024 at 12:01 am
  • 01 – Love Dares You To Change
└ Tags: joyce, sarah

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  1. NGPZ
    NGPZ
    October 12, 2024 at 12:04 am | #

    I think I know what this is

    it’s somebody’s birthday and there gonna be a SUPRIZE PARTY! ^^

    … i hope

    • clif
      clif
      October 12, 2024 at 1:35 am | #

      It’s Mike’s birthday. He’s going to party with your mother.

      For a nickle.

      • NGPZ
        NGPZ
        October 12, 2024 at 1:36 am | #

        wat like with a wiigii board? :p

        • jflb96
          jflb96
          October 12, 2024 at 3:54 am | #

          More likely a ouija board

          • Decidedly Orthogonal
            Decidedly Orthogonal
            October 12, 2024 at 7:16 am | #

            Naw naw. Wasn’t the WiiGii board the attachment Nintendo released that let us communicate with the dead?

            • Laura
              Laura
              October 12, 2024 at 12:38 pm | #

              “There’s an app for that.” ;->

        • Mark
          Mark
          October 12, 2024 at 8:46 am | #

          Reference noted. 🙂

    • Blind_Beholder
      Blind_Beholder
      October 12, 2024 at 4:40 am | #

      It’s me! It’s my birthday!

      • Laura
        Laura
        October 12, 2024 at 12:39 pm | #

        Happy birthday ! 🎵🎼🎶🎁🎈🎉🥳🎂🫖

      • NGPZ
        NGPZ
        October 12, 2024 at 1:44 pm | #

        Happy Birthday to you!

        The world is a zoo!

        We wish you a great party!

        And some sweet presents too!

        🥳 🪅 🎉 🎂 🎈 🎊 🎁

  2. Davus
    Davus
    October 12, 2024 at 12:05 am | #

    Joyce is perceptive!

    • Yet_One_More_Idiot
      Yet_One_More_Idiot
      October 12, 2024 at 1:15 am | #

      Sarah is trying the patented “Fake it ’til you Make it” technique. She’s currently still in the Fake It stage, but that’s okay Sarah – give it time, you’ll get there. 🙂

      • Rose by Any other Name
        Rose by Any other Name
        October 12, 2024 at 7:14 am | #

        I mean, it worked for me.

      • Daibhid C
        Daibhid C
        October 12, 2024 at 4:31 pm | #

        I’ve been faking it for thirty years. I’ve pretty much given up on ever making it, but faking it seems to work, so I’ll keep doing that.

  3. Sirksome
    Sirksome
    October 12, 2024 at 12:05 am | #

    Yes, good. Keep them guessing and unsure! One day they will never know the difference!

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      October 12, 2024 at 4:28 am | #

      Delightfully devilish, Sarah.

      • Dday
        Dday
        October 12, 2024 at 8:40 pm | #

        But what if… I were to act like Lucy and disguise it as my own personality? Ho ho ho

  4. Jeremiah
    Jeremiah
    October 12, 2024 at 12:06 am | #

    Sarah give some good advice, sometimes you gotta shut up about a topic you don’t know shit about.

    • Bogeywoman
      Bogeywoman
      October 12, 2024 at 5:47 am | #

      The first step of being a good ally is learning when to shut up

      • Michael Steamweed
        Michael Steamweed
        October 12, 2024 at 7:47 am | #

        Sometimes a difficult skill to learn. Takes deliberation at times.

    • zee
      zee
      October 12, 2024 at 11:27 am | #

      Literally just be normal forehead. Like don’t completely ignore it, and mind your language if you’re like me and over rely on gendered nicknames. But don’t like bring it up unprompted.

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        October 12, 2024 at 1:50 pm | #

        But remember, she was given advice about how to treat her actual sister, not some other unrelated trans person.

        I also think the approach would in general be different for someone you knew before their transition letting you know they’re trans and finding out someone you’ve known after is trans.

  5. Kyrik Michalowski
    Kyrik Michalowski
    October 12, 2024 at 12:06 am | #

    Oh no, this is lasting until night? Did they get arrested?

    • Jeremiah
      Jeremiah
      October 12, 2024 at 12:07 am | #

      It’s the room lights being turned off, you can day the daylight coming from the window

    • Sirksome
      Sirksome
      October 12, 2024 at 12:07 am | #

      It’s night time? First panel kinda looks like sun beams shining into a dark room to me.

    • Jo_cubstar
      Jo_cubstar
      October 12, 2024 at 12:07 am | #

      I don’t think it’s night. I think the lights are just off in the room? Maybe? Now I’m doubting myself lol

    • Masumi
      Masumi
      October 12, 2024 at 12:09 am | #

      All we know (from panel 1) is that the sun is low; and it’s winter, so it might not be all that late.

      • NGPZ
        NGPZ
        October 12, 2024 at 12:10 am | #

        … i forget even what month it is in comic haha

        • Needfuldoer
          Needfuldoer
          October 12, 2024 at 4:34 am | #

          It’s January 26th.

    • Wraithy2773
      Wraithy2773
      October 12, 2024 at 12:17 am | #

      Its winter in a fairly northern state, it starts getting dark around like 4pm…

      • DashWallkick
        DashWallkick
        October 12, 2024 at 1:45 am | #

        This was brought up recently in the birth control storyline too. “It’s morning.” “Doesn’t seem like it.” “Yeah, Indiana winter is like that.”

  6. Jo_cubstar
    Jo_cubstar
    October 12, 2024 at 12:06 am | #

    Sarah n Joyce are such a wholesome friendship

    • ian livs
      ian livs
      October 12, 2024 at 12:13 am | #

      best sisters of all time

      • NGPZ
        NGPZ
        October 12, 2024 at 12:15 am | #

        now if only Joyce said the whole “you will always be my sister” thing to Sarah instead of Carla XD

      • Rabid Rabbit
        Rabid Rabbit
        October 12, 2024 at 12:22 am | #

        …Liz is not sure how she feels about this comment. She wants to agree, but something about it still makes her tear up a little.

        (To my credit, I did remember who my avatar was before I actually hit Post. Decided not to change it all the same.)

        • NGPZ
          NGPZ
          October 12, 2024 at 12:40 am | #

          really wish we got to see more Liz.

          like, i have a hard time believing he was only ever in comic for setting off that which came between Joyce and Becky for a bit and pissing off Sarah on her way to Muncie :/

  7. VolticEXE
    VolticEXE
    October 12, 2024 at 12:10 am | #

    Glad Joyce is able to recognize her faults when the situation demands for it, its no wonder she tries not to be serious more when its felt like she’s HAD to be serious.

    Also, Sarah… you keep being you. You’ll find a light later.

    • Coatl
      Coatl
      October 12, 2024 at 12:57 am | #

      To be honest, that really took me by surprise, it’s obvious that Joyce still has certain details, but to see that he is finally aware of those mistakes, wow.

      With Sarah, we’ll see what happens later.

      • Mark
        Mark
        October 12, 2024 at 8:53 am | #

        When I’m intent on something, and say something regrettable, it often takes quite some time for awareness to ooze through the barrier of my concentration.

        Years, sometimes.

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        October 12, 2024 at 9:34 am | #

        She’s trying. She went to get advice from Ethan and followed it. Which backfired due to whacky misunderstandings.
        She’s not good at picking up on those failures, but Sarah kind of pointed it out with the “you’re acting according to expectations” bit.

  8. Sirksome
    Sirksome
    October 12, 2024 at 12:12 am | #

    Do we know what bots are on Amber’s desk? I have neither great vision nor great bot knowledge. One of them kinda looks like Sentinel Prime to me. The big blue and red one. At first I thought Optimus of course but the colors don’t look in the right place for him. The others I have no idea.

    • Z
      Z
      October 12, 2024 at 1:57 am | #

      The big blue and red one is Ultra Magnus.

      My gut wants to say it’s all the IDW MTMTE crew but that’s just a guess.

    • Laura
      Laura
      October 12, 2024 at 12:42 pm | #

      With great bot knowledge comes great responsibility…

  9. C.T. Phipps
    C.T. Phipps
    October 12, 2024 at 12:15 am | #

    Are we sure that Amber is hallucinating Mike or is it probable that he’s just hiding in her closet and appearing to pretend to be a ghost?

    • Straximus
      Straximus
      October 12, 2024 at 12:24 am | #

      He has no shadow, so if he’s pretending that’s a really neat trick.

      • Yumi
        Yumi
        October 12, 2024 at 1:10 am | #

        He yeeted it away from himself. It’s called throwing shade.

        • a/snow/mous/e
          a/snow/mous/e
          October 12, 2024 at 1:17 am | #

          he was always good at that 😛

        • Mark
          Mark
          October 12, 2024 at 8:56 am | #

          XD

        • Yeet
          Yeet
          October 12, 2024 at 1:03 pm | #

          *yote

          • Yumi
            Yumi
            October 12, 2024 at 2:01 pm | #

            I think it’s way too debatable/in flux to try to be “correcting” people on.

      • Taffy
        Taffy
        October 12, 2024 at 10:19 am | #

        That just means he’s an Ascian.

  10. Sirksome
    Sirksome
    October 12, 2024 at 12:29 am | #

    There is an interesting character insight here, that AG is likely not as compulsively online as Amber. We know she’s just eating donuts so there’s no real reason she wouldn’t be scrolling socials otherwise. Another interesting difference between the two.

    • Jeremiah
      Jeremiah
      October 12, 2024 at 1:13 am | #

      Can’t relate because I be watching videos or reading stuff on my phone while eating anything.

      • Regret
        Regret
        October 12, 2024 at 2:38 am | #

        When people say or do that, I always wonder: Can’t you stand the direction your own thoughts go when you get time to think? Or do you just feel nervous? Or are you addicted to new experiences? Or just addicted to moving patterns on your pocket lamp that feel meaningful and the newness is secondary?

        • Jeremiah
          Jeremiah
          October 12, 2024 at 3:12 am | #

          I just like watching videos and reading stuff man, it amuses me and helps pass the time.

        • Sam
          Sam
          October 12, 2024 at 5:53 am | #

          I just get bored. My own thoughts are running 24/7 on top of everything regardless. So I might as be watching something I like also or reading about something I am curious about, which makes me have more interesting thoughts.

          Like my thoughts are fine and fun to an extent by themselves, but they tend to be more creative and interesting when I listen to music or something else so my brain is actually stimulated and not just expected to produce fun from a starting point of nothing.

          • Nymph
            Nymph
            October 12, 2024 at 6:05 am | #

            This exactly. My thoughts don’t stop just because I’m entertained, and there are plenty of thought provoking things to watch and read. People who have issues with others using their phones are always so sure there can’t be anything educational or genuinely interesting on there.

            “Addicted to moving patterns on your pocket lamp”. Buddy you’re on a welcoming, where’s that self-important judgment even coming from? 🙄

            • Nymph
              Nymph
              October 12, 2024 at 6:05 am | #

              Welcoming = Web comic

            • NGPZ
              NGPZ
              October 12, 2024 at 1:55 pm | #

              thems probably forgot to type the wrong site address in their URL bar

              it should have read “facebook.com” XD

        • Nymph
          Nymph
          October 12, 2024 at 5:55 am | #

          I love the implication that if someone doesn’t want to listen to their own mouth squishing and chewing into the silence it must be some flaw or addiction.

          This is boomer nonsense.

          • Mark
            Mark
            October 12, 2024 at 9:06 am | #

            Perhaps this is someone like me, who finds that engaging with media requires disengaging from the flavor and texture of the food, and wants to enjoy the meal before turning to some other pleasure.

            • Taffy
              Taffy
              October 12, 2024 at 10:22 am | #

              Then live your own life and don’t expect others to live the same one.

              (, that’s the Royal You, not specific)

            • Nymph
              Nymph
              October 12, 2024 at 11:15 pm | #

              Maybe, but the way they talk about it suggests moral superiority vibes and I’m happy not pretending to assume I’m looking at a feather-covered otter when it quacks.

        • zee
          zee
          October 12, 2024 at 11:19 am | #

          Go back to Facebook with this nonsense dawg some ppl just have ADHD. I’m like charlie, not as extreme but I need some kind of stimulus or my brain don’t work and an hour has passed. Or y’know. Ppl just, like entertainment. Dads reading newspaper on the toilet is the oldest fuckin trope, could they not stand the direction their thoughts were going? We’re they addicted to the portable news cycle? Fuck outta here with that faux philosophical, intellectually superior, “back in my day” ass condescending fuckery

        • Jeremiah
          Jeremiah
          October 12, 2024 at 11:55 am | #

          Very happy agrees this was a really weird response.

        • Laura
          Laura
          October 12, 2024 at 12:45 pm | #

          With great bot knowledge comes great responsibility…

          • Laura
            Laura
            October 12, 2024 at 12:47 pm | #

            Hmm, that accidentally got posted in response to the wrong comment…

            Meh. Still fits! ;-D

        • Laura
          Laura
          October 12, 2024 at 12:53 pm | #

          Oh, I am DEFINITELY addicted to moving patterns on my pocket lamp!

          It’s like that scene at the end of the episode of “Modern Family” where the family goes to extreme lengths to get Phil a birthday present and surprise party. In the final scene, the lights dim, and a video image of a fire in a fireplace crackles virtually on the screen of Phil’s new tablet computer. Phil lulls himself to sleep on the couch, dreamily gazing at the gire and absentmindedly stroking the touchscreen to make the image wiggle. That’s like me. I fall asleep with a phone in my hand, not because I really want to read anything, but just because it feels comforting to have it in my hand. Like a soothing pacifier.

          So, yes: “Hi, my name is Laura and I’m a digital addict.”
          Everyone: “HI, LAURA!”

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          October 12, 2024 at 1:54 pm | #

          Before phones, we used to watch TV while we ate a lot of the time.
          Not at big gatherings when people you didn’t normally see were there, but the average family dinner.

          Similarly, if I’m eating alone, it’ll probably be at the computer or phone. If I’m going out to eat with friends, we’ll be talking.

          I get plenty of alone with my thoughts time. I don’t need to force more.

  11. Derek
    Derek
    October 12, 2024 at 12:36 am | #

    I mean I’ve said it before but: I always have a hard time taking the “we are traumatized by the kidnapping for real” thing seriously when in this same storyline Dina uses her looney tunes powers to break into a bank vault.

    • C.T. Phipps
      C.T. Phipps
      October 12, 2024 at 12:40 am | #

      I mean, her Looney Tunes powers could have been, “Could we examine our safety deposit box?”

      • KM
        KM
        October 12, 2024 at 12:42 am | #

        I don’t know about how American banks work but I’m pretty sure when I did that we were still accompanied by a bank staffer.

        • Mark
          Mark
          October 12, 2024 at 9:10 am | #

          All the American bank boxes I’ve known have two keys: the depositor’s and the bank’s. You need a cashier to open the door to the box. So, yes, there’s always bank personnel in the vault with me. If you want to be alone with your stuff, there’s a couple of tiny rooms across from the vault door.

          • C.T. Phipps
            C.T. Phipps
            October 12, 2024 at 2:38 pm | #

            Several times, I have had people leave me alone in the bank vault for a few minutes while they do other things.

            Do you know why?

            Because they’re not afraid of a bank vault being robbed by a lone unarmed person they know.

            🙂

    • KM
      KM
      October 12, 2024 at 12:41 am | #

      I still can’t get over how this is accepted but heaven forbid we fudge a video game Speedrun XD

    • NGPZ
      NGPZ
      October 12, 2024 at 12:43 am | #

      just an ordinary day in Ohio

    • Jeremiah
      Jeremiah
      October 12, 2024 at 1:12 am | #

      Skill issue.

    • egon
      egon
      October 12, 2024 at 1:13 am | #

      real, i didn’t even take it seriously when it was happening

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      October 12, 2024 at 1:58 am | #

      Nothing that happens makes sense but everything means so much. No story I know has nailed this part of the condition of being a teenager as perfectly as John Ney Rieber’s Books of Magic, but DOA gets pretty close.

    • Taffy
      Taffy
      October 12, 2024 at 10:25 am | #

      I’d be traumatized too, if I’d been in two Looney Tunes-ass kidnapping/car chase scenarios. Every time someone didn’t answer their phone right away, I’d be saying “Oh no, please, not this shit again.”

    • Laura
      Laura
      October 12, 2024 at 12:58 pm | #

      Dina rescued them using her secret powers back then, too. She and everyone made a great team together.

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        October 12, 2024 at 1:37 pm | #

        It’s a shame they kidnapped both Dorothy and Joyce, otherwise Joyce could have just teleported to Dorothy.

    • Dday
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      October 12, 2024 at 8:42 pm | #

      The looney toons stuff is the sugar that helps us get the trauma down.

  12. Dday
    Dday
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    I feel like Sarah is basically employing George Costanza’s “The Opposite” strategy.

  13. IntangibleMatter
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    October 12, 2024 at 12:55 am | #

    The affect of a delivery is almost as important as the content.

  14. temporaryobsessor
    temporaryobsessor
    October 12, 2024 at 1:25 am | #

    Keep your head down hope you don’t make a but of yourself. Seems like decent advice.
    Basically the best way to handle this would have been to continue to pretend like you didn’t know.

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      October 12, 2024 at 9:36 am | #

      But that wasn’t the advice she got from Ethan – because he thought she was talking about Jocelyn.

      • temporaryobsessor
        temporaryobsessor
        October 12, 2024 at 3:12 pm | #

        Fair enough.
        That’s the difference between knowing them before the transition and only after. Also the difference between familial and acquaintance relationships.

        Ideally she would be more low key with her sister too but nobody’s perfect.

  15. TrueVCU
    TrueVCU
    October 12, 2024 at 1:27 am | #

    The way it took me this long to realize Joyce’s puffer vest is the lesbian flag colors

  16. Chaucer59
    Chaucer59
    October 12, 2024 at 1:46 am | #

    I know it’s counterintuitive, but I’m kinda diggin’ faux-Pollyanna Sarah.

  17. CardinalFan
    CardinalFan
    October 12, 2024 at 2:06 am | #

    OMG! We might become decent people. Whatever will we do?! 😛

  18. Zamperla
    Zamperla
    October 12, 2024 at 2:54 am | #

    Honestly saying stuff that seems too direct/honest/blunt but with a more friendly attitude really can get you pretty far. Like hell Sarah’s being honest; thats better then bullshitting that she knows more then she does, or ‘nicely’ assuring Joyce she’s Doing Great when she’s not.

  19. 0xKruzr
    0xKruzr
    October 12, 2024 at 4:05 am | #

    Sarah really just… snapped, but in a good way. I think.

  20. Needfuldoer
    Needfuldoer
    October 12, 2024 at 4:27 am | #

    Hopefully Joyce can apologize to Carla like that.

  21. Pylgrim
    Pylgrim
    October 12, 2024 at 5:13 am | #

    And as Jacob just realised, saying and doing the difficult but necessary things that your friends need IS being nice and genuine, whether it is deployed with scorn or a smile.

  22. ValdVin
    ValdVin
    October 12, 2024 at 6:12 am | #

    Panel five has a great book title.

  23. Arianod
    Arianod
    October 12, 2024 at 6:32 am | #

    Y’know, sometimes a smile makes one hell of a difference.

  24. Michael Steamweed
    Michael Steamweed
    October 12, 2024 at 7:45 am | #

    “On to me” is not the same as “on me”. Most sadly.

  25. darkoneko
    darkoneko
    October 12, 2024 at 8:21 am | #

    You didn’t even check behind the dino

    • Mark
      Mark
      October 12, 2024 at 9:12 am | #

      There would be sounds.

    • Da Boy
      Da Boy
      October 12, 2024 at 9:13 am | #

      Exactly! You can’t just glance inside and go “She isn’t here” when the person you are looking for is known for having near-Predator levels of being hard to spot.

    • Proxiehunter
      Proxiehunter
      October 12, 2024 at 11:47 pm | #

      Or behind the door where Dina is often found. Even if she wasn’t there when it opened.

  26. Yeet
    Yeet
    October 12, 2024 at 11:02 am | #

    oh hey maybe I was wrong, sarah might be finding a happy medium here actually
    way better than trying to be maximum cheer all the time

  27. DJTsurugi
    DJTsurugi
    October 12, 2024 at 11:09 am | #

    Jacob is on to Lucy, in a fun way. ~<3

  28. HueSatLight
    HueSatLight
    October 12, 2024 at 1:09 pm | #

    nice daylight through the window. Their rooms are usually bathed in morning sunlight, and this is after poli-sci, an afternoon class. This puts their windows probably facing south east. at least currently. there’s sometimes inconsistencies either from it not being an important enough detail to keep consistent, my misreading of dialogue/images, or IU and specifically Read Hall is the location of a cosmic horror that has strange and shifting geometries and numbs the occupants to the nature of their surroundings.

    • MacareuxMoine
      MacareuxMoine
      October 14, 2024 at 3:11 pm | #

      There are rooms on both sides of the floor. So some of them experience sun dawn while others experience sunset.

  29. Charles Phipps
    Charles Phipps
    October 12, 2024 at 6:00 pm | #

    Ugh…smiling Sara is so…cute.

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