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She’d also know that Sal and Amazi-Girl PHYSICALLY FOUGHT at the Desanto rally in front of hundreds of witnesses if she had the slightest bit of awareness.
Yeah there are a lot of people who could tell Jennifer about that fight, and a few who could talk about Sal and Amazi-Girl fighting crime together for a number of nights, or about how around the same time Amber and Sal had a violent fight and then Sal joined Amber’s roller derby team where Amber does her anger management while wearing a costume just like Amazi-Girl’s. . .
If Jennifer thought that journalism meant talking to people to find out what they have to say rather than deciding what happened and then telling people so they’ll know how cool and right she is, I guess.
What does 9-9 mean? It sort of looks like a person with bags under their eyes, staring off into space with the impassive incomprehension of the exhausted.
We do know Sal doesn’t have 100% function in her right hand though. Seems to most affect fine motor work but I still feel that would impact the ability for her to be AG.
Jennifer’s reasoning is basically ‘Joyce is likely racist’, Sal wears heels to seem taller, her hair could be a wig, no explanation for build, Sal is basically a Batman.
Except you know, if she paid attention ever she’d realise she’s wrong but paying attention to other people that she isn’t dating and trying to fix is hard.
That’s either a Wednesday or a Thursday depending on whether DoA “season 2” is following 2011’s calendar (continuing off of “season 1” using 2010’s) or 2021’s (assuming it skipped ahead on the 10 year anniversary).
To Jen’s very limited credit “angry denial” is a much easier thing to assume is protesting too much than “hey idiot, do you have any idea what she actually looks like?” or “I’ve fought with her in public with witnesses and camera footage that can corroborate my account of events”
Rachel Moore and Rose have roughly the same build. Spider-car was a rival/teammate of AG in the Walkyverse. Lucy was AG2 in the Walkyverse. I don’t know why Dorothy is on the list.
It’s a trick, the real amazi-girl isn’t on the list.
I actually understand Jennifer’s reasoning for why Sal is Amazi-Girl. Sal can scale buildings, fight off multiple men larger than her, has an absolute sense of justice, and perform blockbuster action stunts on bikes.
It’s just you know…tall biracial black woman. Like a teenage Rosario Dawson.
Jennifer is one of those people who believes the first thing that she thinks of and then just insists if she thought it up it must mean it’s true. The fact that Amber is visibly bushy haired and pale is largely irrelevant.
Yeah, it does occur to me that, as a journalist, Jennifer should have done her homework. However, jennifer’s not a good journalist. (I wouldn’t be suprised if she did it so she could get a press pass or something.)
I’ve been struggling a bit to ‘like’ Jennifer as a protagonist. She’s been almost nothing but a pill for like 90% post timeskip, and any ‘good’ moments are swiftly erased.
The best I can say is that at least she’s low-stakes drama and we’re just waiting for the schadenfreude payoff I guess.
I’m not sure Jennifer has ever been a protagonist. She’s occasionally a viewpoint character, but I don’t think she’s ever actually driven the plot by her action or even inaction. (I’m not really up for re-reading the suicide pact storyline, which I think is where she was closest to being a protag.)
You are pretty much wrong about that and really “the plot” is literally just the these characters lives, so anything she does advance her particular plot.
Well, you aren’t mean to like her for what she does, she is a trashfire of a human being with glaring personality flaws, that is what make her interesting if not a likable
I definitely think of her as an antagonist. The literary definition doesn’t fit super well if for no other reason than we don’t really have A Protagonist per se, but she’s pretty antagonistic towards most of the rest of the cast, so I’m calling it close enough.
Eeeeh, kind of a stretch, being “antagonistic” and being an Antagonist in a story are pretty different things. I don’t think she has really done anything that warrant that tittle. She can be a protagonist and be unlikable those aren’t mutually exclusive concepts.
In the second to last panel, did she consider for a moment that she might actually be wrong about Sal and then immediately sashayed back into denial mode? Or is did she just take an extra moment to process the denial?
Jen is one of those people that comes up with an idea and straight up starts believing it, zero evidence required. Unshakable assumptions based on raw stubbornness, I’ve met alllll different kindsa people like this.
don’t think she has a paid position so probably not but it would be nice if daisy called her out on her poor journalism. she gave Jennifer feedback at the beginning of the term and i don’t think she listened at all.
She’s talked about it before! She said the skin color is a matter of perception, and that if you expect Amazi-girl to be white she’ll be white because the whole superhero outfit obscures the rest (and then she never changed her mind because that’s Jennifer and she’s, of course, always right about everything)
I think the funniest part of this is that she thinks Sal would. WANT a front page quote. Like look at that big grin, like its an indulgent beguiling draw. Fascinating.
Anyhow I personally dont think Jennifer’s stupid. She’s perfectly smart. It’s just hard to overstate how badly “i already decided I think I know what’s right” can carry people if you don’t do a lot of self reflection. Jennifer doesn’t ‘do’ self reflection. She has specifically backed away from self reflection.
She ain’t evil, she ain’t dumb. She has a fixed idea in her head and won’t even self reflect her way into Liking Girls not being a fluke. Such it do.
Was talking to a friend yesterday about that, clearly intelligent people who have missed an entire array of points so hard their appearance loops back to “idiot.”
It’s a known human error! We just literally have a hard time taking in new information when it conflicts with something we already believe- see also, “joyces whole incredibly difficult time pulling away from a fundy upbringing”. The difference is if you make an effort to stop, and think, and sit with the really uncomfortable feeling of Having Been Wrong.
You know that midwestern, conservative, lower-middle-class soccer mom attitude? The whole “Oh, I don’t see color” schtick?
I guess Jennifer *literally* has that going on. Along with “I don’t see body shape,” “I don’t see hair color, length, or texture,” and “I don’t see the rest of the universe that I can’t pretend isn’t centered around me.”
Does anyone have a close up of that Derby sticker? At this distance it looks like Carla just had a bunch of stickers of her in derby gear flipping a bird, which absolutely tracks.
I just don’t get how Jennifer still thinks it’s Sal. She’s seen Amazi-girl closely enough to tell that her skin is much lighter than Sal’s and that Sal is taller.
So Jennifer is really just that convinced that she won’t consider evidence to the contrary or she thinks “Sal” is Amazi-girl in blackface and with lifts in her shoes.
I suspect this is going to get Sal into trouble eventually. Either she gets punished for Amazi-Girl’s vigilante violence, or people who have beef with Amazi-Girl come for her and violence ensues. Either way, there’ll be plenty of people willing to believe the worst about Sal despite the fact that her main characteristic is not wanting to be involved with this shit.
LOL if she did run into amazigirl after this /see them in the same room i can totally imagine her being liek “so is she your understudy/did you hire so extra help” or so
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Has she ever even seen amazigirl? Their builds arent even close
Yes.
She’d also know that Sal and Amazi-Girl PHYSICALLY FOUGHT at the Desanto rally in front of hundreds of witnesses if she had the slightest bit of awareness.
Superheroes physically fight themselves or their secret identities pretty damn often actually. It’s a hazard of the occupation.
I thought the solution to Ethan’s problems might be having to fight Emo Ethan in a junkyard.
Can we get some cigarette flavored Kryptonite for that?
Only after blowjob cat’s mouth has been forcibly shut by something.
Blowjob Cat would just blow it out
I know, right? Meanwhile, regular people like us are lucky if we get to do that two, maybe three times in our lifetimes.
Yeah there are a lot of people who could tell Jennifer about that fight, and a few who could talk about Sal and Amazi-Girl fighting crime together for a number of nights, or about how around the same time Amber and Sal had a violent fight and then Sal joined Amber’s roller derby team where Amber does her anger management while wearing a costume just like Amazi-Girl’s. . .
If Jennifer thought that journalism meant talking to people to find out what they have to say rather than deciding what happened and then telling people so they’ll know how cool and right she is, I guess.
She might have seen a girl on the team who looked just like Amazi-girl, but she’d probably been to busy focusing on Carla to notice.
Sounds like she’d rather be a prosecutor than a journalist.
Ask yourself this question: in Its Walky, how long did it take Walky to realize Beef wasn’t his genetic brother?
I was wrong about Carla being faceblind, but maybe Jennifer is butt-blind. she identifies people by whether or not they climb through windows
A lot of time (or at least drinks) have passed since they interacted so i can imagine jen not remember specific details
They spoke, after Amazi-Girl literally carried Billie down the hallway to end a fight. There was no way that Billie did not see:
Amazi-girl’s lily-white complexion.
Amazi-girl’s stocky frame.
Amazi-girl’s rack.
In short, this whole subplot is phenomenally dumb.
Start here:
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/04-the-bechdel-test/nerds/
Next on Sick Sad World… 9-9
What does 9-9 mean? It sort of looks like a person with bags under their eyes, staring off into space with the impassive incomprehension of the exhausted.
You nailed it buddy
yee it an eye roll LOL
Oh, Billifer.
Jillifer is such a card
Truly spectacular instincts on Jen’s part
Amazigirl has a totally different body type, you bongo!
(also with Sal’s hand injury, I feel like she wouldn’t be able to do some of the climbing Amazigirl gets up to)
Climbing IS her preferred way in and out of a room/building. This is not defending Jenn-a-billie, of course.
This is exactly why Jennifer thinks she’s Amazigirl though.
We do know Sal doesn’t have 100% function in her right hand though. Seems to most affect fine motor work but I still feel that would impact the ability for her to be AG.
Totally different build, hair color, hair texture, hair length, skin color…
Jennifer thinks she’s a shapeshifter tbh.
Jennifer’s reasoning is basically ‘Joyce is likely racist’, Sal wears heels to seem taller, her hair could be a wig, no explanation for build, Sal is basically a Batman.
Except you know, if she paid attention ever she’d realise she’s wrong but paying attention to other people that she isn’t dating and trying to fix is hard.
Create pointless drama instead.
She’s basically Batman and Batman is a master of disguise, after all.
A reminder how long Jennifer has been thinking Sal is Amazi-Girl.
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/01-pajama-jeans/hero/
January 5th, ***2012***
…That means I’ve been reading this comic for over 12 years now. Jesus Christ.
Shortpacked has the perfect comic for that.
https://www.shortpacked.com/comic/re-wheatcakes
Willis, as a fellow comedian, you are a genius.
wibbly wobbly, timey wimey stuff, ammi right? XD
I’ve been reading for 7 years now, and it’s been a transformative experience all the while
BTW does anyone know what day of the week it is in comic?
that seems all too easy to lose track of…
For me it was Tuesday two days ago, which makes this Thursday.
for me too
It should be January 27th.
https://walkypedia.fandom.com/wiki/Dumbing_of_Age_Timeline
That’s either a Wednesday or a Thursday depending on whether DoA “season 2” is following 2011’s calendar (continuing off of “season 1” using 2010’s) or 2021’s (assuming it skipped ahead on the 10 year anniversary).
It has to be Thursday, based on “For Me it was Tuesday” being 2 days ago.
Day of the month is harder to figure.
I thought we had it pinned down again after Ruth’s birthday?
Somebody even deeper into the DoA lore iceberg than I am probably knows for certain. I’m just going by Walkypedia.
We might well have. My point was just that it’s definitely Thursday, whatever day of the month it is.
I got you beat, I followed the link from Shortpacked to the first page.
In case anyone is wondering, this is the strip that relativley shortly followed it, which made her very confident it was sal. https://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/02-choosing-my-religion/knewit/
A few days after reailsing her roomate fit the exact amazi girl profile, she catches amazi girl climbing out of her room, the exact way that sal does.
Obviously Sal wears whiteface and a wig
so her thinking AG is Sal is fueled by a grudge, got it
keep on chasing this, Jennifer 9-9
I mean, this IS Billifer. Her two driving forces are rage and embarrassment.
Jennifer on her 60’s, shouting at Sal’s garden: “I knew ya since college, you old rrrrrrrascal…”
Also note to self: get eyes reexamined.
Jennifer notably dismissed Sal being black and Amazi-Girl being white because Joyce thought Jennifer was white.
And later Mexican.
Mind you, Jennifer’s thought process is still:
1. Joyce is unintentionally racist
2. ???
3. Amazi-Girl could be biracial
no she didn’t.
Jennifer PLEASE
Most people would find it flattering or amusing.
But Amazi-Girl is also a person who literally STABBED Sal.
yeah Jennifer here is nothin but fucking annoying, like those TMZ camera-folk bothering celebrities just doing gardening and shit
Sal answered in a way that anyone except Billie/Jennifer, would understand.
Today’s lesson: There isn’t one; go home.
Today I am extra glad to have Sal gravatar.
To Jen’s very limited credit “angry denial” is a much easier thing to assume is protesting too much than “hey idiot, do you have any idea what she actually looks like?” or “I’ve fought with her in public with witnesses and camera footage that can corroborate my account of events”
Daisy already knows who Amazi-Girl is.
Dorothy is her secret fetish. She just pads her suit!
Who else would it be but our President to be?
other stickers aside, Malaya doesn’t exactly strikes me as the sort of person that would write “Malaya
” on their door. But then who wrote it ?
Marcie?
… the blind girl?
Be kind of hard for her to play Roller Derby if she was blind.
Apparently legally people participate, there is no little ball to keep track of just human bodies, right?
This guy, famously: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sammy_Skobel
The perhaps more salient example is how she communicates through (non-tactile) sign language.
Mute. Not blind. She just likes rocking the shades.
The star might be there to display her being jammer on the derby team
This is probably for the best…..lsomehow.
“Sorry Jennifer! But our Amazi-Girl is in another room!”
Dumbing of Age would never break THAT kind of fourth wall
Other Rachel? Spider-Car? What is this poll?
Rose? Whatever happened to her anyway
Rachel Moore and Rose have roughly the same build. Spider-car was a rival/teammate of AG in the Walkyverse. Lucy was AG2 in the Walkyverse. I don’t know why Dorothy is on the list.
It’s a trick, the real amazi-girl isn’t on the list.
I voted Lucy. She’s the only Amazi-Girl on that list.
Nice fourth wall beak in the alts
I actually understand Jennifer’s reasoning for why Sal is Amazi-Girl. Sal can scale buildings, fight off multiple men larger than her, has an absolute sense of justice, and perform blockbuster action stunts on bikes.
It’s just you know…tall biracial black woman. Like a teenage Rosario Dawson.
Amber…small white woman.
Jennifer is one of those people who believes the first thing that she thinks of and then just insists if she thought it up it must mean it’s true. The fact that Amber is visibly bushy haired and pale is largely irrelevant.
Yeah, it does occur to me that, as a journalist, Jennifer should have done her homework. However, jennifer’s not a good journalist. (I wouldn’t be suprised if she did it so she could get a press pass or something.)
But once you look beyond the panels, forever after will it dominate your destiny.
I’ve been struggling a bit to ‘like’ Jennifer as a protagonist. She’s been almost nothing but a pill for like 90% post timeskip, and any ‘good’ moments are swiftly erased.
The best I can say is that at least she’s low-stakes drama and we’re just waiting for the schadenfreude payoff I guess.
I’m not sure Jennifer has ever been a protagonist. She’s occasionally a viewpoint character, but I don’t think she’s ever actually driven the plot by her action or even inaction. (I’m not really up for re-reading the suicide pact storyline, which I think is where she was closest to being a protag.)
You are pretty much wrong about that and really “the plot” is literally just the these characters lives, so anything she does advance her particular plot.
You don’t have to like protagonists
Well, you aren’t mean to like her for what she does, she is a trashfire of a human being with glaring personality flaws, that is what make her interesting if not a likable
I definitely think of her as an antagonist. The literary definition doesn’t fit super well if for no other reason than we don’t really have A Protagonist per se, but she’s pretty antagonistic towards most of the rest of the cast, so I’m calling it close enough.
Eeeeh, kind of a stretch, being “antagonistic” and being an Antagonist in a story are pretty different things. I don’t think she has really done anything that warrant that tittle. She can be a protagonist and be unlikable those aren’t mutually exclusive concepts.
A little stretching is good for the health
so long as ya remember to do it *after* exercising, not before XD
That is literally what all my gym teachers say to do.
“Amazi-Girl is on mah Roller Derby Team. Just come to a match and you’ll see I ain’t her.”
“Wait, why wouldn’t you just tell me Marcie is Amazi-Girl?”
“Marcie ain’t her, either!”
This is the correct reply for my comment. Outstanding move, 10/10, you win the DoA No Prize!
I don’t know how many times Jenifer has insisted on the theory that Sal is Amazi Girl but at this point she is sextupling down on it.
Is there anything Jennifer hasn’t doubled down on?
Maybe the alcoholism, I guess.
She has concepts of a journalism.
At this point she has to be willfully ignorant, right?
Jennifer was a trump voter in the our world AU.
And then there was https://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/02-choosing-my-religion/white-2/
Joyce, of course, gets the obvious point.
No wonder Ruth broke up with her; she doesn’t even act with journalistic integrity.
So, how long until Daisy commissions the Computer Club (Ken?) to make spider slayers.
or turns Mary into the Scorpion?
I feel like she can do better than Mary
https://www.dumbingofage.com/cnn/
Who is Miss Sakaki?
Jocelyne’s cat
And Willis’s.
LONG LIVE MISS SAKAKI
🫂
A brain scan for Billifer, please! We need to find out what’s going on in there!
You think she might have a TBI?
Two common-sense brain cells in a dead-heat competition for third place.
In the second to last panel, did she consider for a moment that she might actually be wrong about Sal and then immediately sashayed back into denial mode? Or is did she just take an extra moment to process the denial?
Billifer is never wrong about anything, ever. /s
Tbh, I think she was wondering if she had any further arguments for convincing Sal and decided she didn’t.
“I don’t know why Sal is being so weird about this.”
She’s that Principal Skinner meme. “Am I so out of touch? No. It is Sal who is wrong.”
Or maybe Fonzie
Jen is one of those people that comes up with an idea and straight up starts believing it, zero evidence required. Unshakable assumptions based on raw stubbornness, I’ve met alllll different kindsa people like this.
They are the one that elected the president after all!
Oh well Jennifer definitely has a future at Fox News: snotty attitude, reckless disregard for facts etc
She might make for a good Fox “News” smiling face person. Probably would need to change her hair to blonde.
And probably stop being half asian.
She’d definitely be one of their token minorities, with either half emphasized depending on what target they’re trying to bamboozle.
Given how many bridges Jennifer’s burned lately, I feel like losing her position at the newspaper would be a sensible next step.
don’t think she has a paid position so probably not but it would be nice if daisy called her out on her poor journalism. she gave Jennifer feedback at the beginning of the term and i don’t think she listened at all.
Amber and Sal don’t even have the same skin color, how is Billie so fucking dense she can’t do the simple math of “white≠brown”???
She’s talked about it before! She said the skin color is a matter of perception, and that if you expect Amazi-girl to be white she’ll be white because the whole superhero outfit obscures the rest (and then she never changed her mind because that’s Jennifer and she’s, of course, always right about everything)
Of course, now it all makes sense! Santa is Amazi-Girl!
Well, Jennifer won’t reveal her secret, that’s for sure.
Sal is probably regretting not diving out the window when she had the chance.
I think the funniest part of this is that she thinks Sal would. WANT a front page quote. Like look at that big grin, like its an indulgent beguiling draw. Fascinating.
Anyhow I personally dont think Jennifer’s stupid. She’s perfectly smart. It’s just hard to overstate how badly “i already decided I think I know what’s right” can carry people if you don’t do a lot of self reflection. Jennifer doesn’t ‘do’ self reflection. She has specifically backed away from self reflection.
She ain’t evil, she ain’t dumb. She has a fixed idea in her head and won’t even self reflect her way into Liking Girls not being a fluke. Such it do.
Was talking to a friend yesterday about that, clearly intelligent people who have missed an entire array of points so hard their appearance loops back to “idiot.”
It’s a known human error! We just literally have a hard time taking in new information when it conflicts with something we already believe- see also, “joyces whole incredibly difficult time pulling away from a fundy upbringing”. The difference is if you make an effort to stop, and think, and sit with the really uncomfortable feeling of Having Been Wrong.
Which. Gestures at Jennifer.
Damn, Other Rachel in second. I’m surprised and happy.
Well, yeah, since Carla wasn’t listed among the candidates. Had to go with the next logical choice.
I have to admit I went with Rose, because I can’t remember who Rose is.
I went with Other Rachel because I didn’t know who Rose or Spider Car is.
What is the red and yellow heart-shaped thing on the door?
1. She’s right in that AG has no comment.
2. Book recommendation: Mistakes Were Made (But Not by Me): Why We Justify Foolish Beliefs, Bad Decisions, and Hurtful Acts – https://app.thestorygraph.com/books/81df626a-3309-45c2-a38b-9cec1614ce7a
You know that midwestern, conservative, lower-middle-class soccer mom attitude? The whole “Oh, I don’t see color” schtick?
I guess Jennifer *literally* has that going on. Along with “I don’t see body shape,” “I don’t see hair color, length, or texture,” and “I don’t see the rest of the universe that I can’t pretend isn’t centered around me.”
Does anyone have a close up of that Derby sticker? At this distance it looks like Carla just had a bunch of stickers of her in derby gear flipping a bird, which absolutely tracks.
Jennifer is just, like, the worst journalist student ever, isn’t she.
yuuuuup
but even if she fails as a real journalist, she can always be a news anchor, what with all the make-up she can buy with her parents’ money (-_-)
inb4 she becomes some sorta ‘grifter’ lol if not a clickbait influencer
I just don’t get how Jennifer still thinks it’s Sal. She’s seen Amazi-girl closely enough to tell that her skin is much lighter than Sal’s and that Sal is taller.
So Jennifer is really just that convinced that she won’t consider evidence to the contrary or she thinks “Sal” is Amazi-girl in blackface and with lifts in her shoes.
Jennifer would never look at the comic tags to see when Amazi-Girl is tagged. They’re beneath her afterall >:3c
I suspect this is going to get Sal into trouble eventually. Either she gets punished for Amazi-Girl’s vigilante violence, or people who have beef with Amazi-Girl come for her and violence ensues. Either way, there’ll be plenty of people willing to believe the worst about Sal despite the fact that her main characteristic is not wanting to be involved with this shit.
I mean a vigilante is hard to believe but i can imagine there’d be leslie who could confirm they aren’t the same person
Plot twist: Jennifer is Amazi-Girl and is trying to throw everyone off the scent
i find it funny no ones pointed out to jennifer the most glaring difference between sal and amazi-girl
LOL if she did run into amazigirl after this /see them in the same room i can totally imagine her being liek “so is she your understudy/did you hire so extra help” or so
Joyce actually pointed it out.
Jennifer’s response, “OF COURSE you’d think Amazi-Girl was black.”
Ah, here it is:
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/02-choosing-my-religion/white-2/
the way ive read this comic 3 times and STILL forget things lol. this is gonna be so funny when jennifer does find out
Following the previous link, eventually some people just gave up on trying to convince Jennifer: https://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/02-choosing-my-religion/holes-2/