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Forthright

by David M Willis on April 5, 2015 at 12:01 am
  • 03 - The Butterflies Won't Fly Away
└ Tags: ethan, joyce

Discussion (270) ¬

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  1. An Average Loser
    An Average Loser
    April 5, 2015 at 12:01 am | #

    Dude Smut. Funny.

    • LeslieBean4Shizzle
      LeslieBean4Shizzle
      April 5, 2015 at 12:29 am | #

      How long before Joyce discovers the dude smut subgenre specifically devoted to entertaining women? Better know, of course, as yaoi.

      • Shanunu
        Shanunu
        April 5, 2015 at 12:48 am | #

        I never got how yaoi was marketed at females. I find nothing more or less attractive about it. Is it supposed to be adorable or something?

        • Sam
          Sam
          April 5, 2015 at 12:55 am | #

          Well if you’re into dudes and you happen to like a little romance and plot to go with your porn what’s better than two dudes banging after an angsty backstory? Granted, most of the yaoi genre is filled with crap, but it’s porn, it’s not like it needs to be super tasteful all the time.

          • TachyonCode
            TachyonCode
            April 5, 2015 at 1:13 am | #

            You forgot about the yaoi hands. (Oh god the yaoi hands why)

            • David M Willis
              David M Willis
              April 5, 2015 at 1:14 am | #

              • Alzarath
                Alzarath
                April 5, 2015 at 1:30 am | #

                I appreciate you.

              • syd
                syd
                April 5, 2015 at 1:35 am | #

                TAKE A LOOK AT THESE HANDS

                • Lel
                  Lel
                  April 5, 2015 at 4:45 am | #

                  BIG MEATY CLAWS

                • SonicBlueRanger
                  SonicBlueRanger
                  April 5, 2015 at 10:05 am | #

                  They look like good strong hands. Don’t they?

                • Thanks, I'll Have Another!
                  Thanks, I'll Have Another!
                  April 5, 2015 at 10:35 am | #

                  THE HAND SPEAKS

                  THE HAND OF A GOVERNMENT MAN

                • Historyman68
                  Historyman68
                  April 5, 2015 at 3:17 pm | #

                  THEYRR PASSING INBETWEEN US

                • Vincent
                  Vincent
                  April 6, 2015 at 11:41 am | #

                  @SonicBlueRanger: Ow right in the childhood.

              • Leorale
                Leorale
                April 5, 2015 at 3:34 am | #

                Hawt!

                • overdosed
                  overdosed
                  April 5, 2015 at 1:08 pm | #

                  the hands are as big as anime eyes but like david always likes to do is to givith and taketh away on a side note some one beat jenaside to first comment today

              • Nono
                Nono
                April 5, 2015 at 4:18 am | #

                You kow what they say about guys with big hands.

                • Urishima
                  Urishima
                  April 5, 2015 at 5:46 am | #

                  They can easily jack off a horse.
                  Wait… I think I fucked that up.

                • Abel Undercity
                  Abel Undercity
                  April 5, 2015 at 6:39 am | #

                  (Nods in a knowing manner)

                  Big gloves!

                • Leorale
                  Leorale
                  April 5, 2015 at 11:52 am | #

                  Big gloves?

        • neeks
          neeks
          April 5, 2015 at 1:35 am | #

          I just think of it as the inverse of dudes thinking lesbians are super hot, geared for the female gaze instead of the male gaze.

          • StClair
            StClair
            April 5, 2015 at 6:16 am | #

            Pretty much.

            • Yet_One_More_Idiot
              Yet_One_More_Idiot
              April 5, 2015 at 8:07 am | #

              I don’t know about other guys, but I prefer lesbian porn that’s geared to men not because of specific fantasies about attempting to get with lesbians, but just because it’s hotter for me to watch a woman and a second woman than to watch a woman and a man. That way, I don’t get feelings of inadequacy whilst enjoying mah pr0nz. 😛

              • ANeM
                ANeM
                April 5, 2015 at 12:10 pm | #

                It is a pretty simple formula to make porn hotter for some people. Remove the person they find unattractive, replace them with someone they’d find attractive.

        • Foxhack
          Foxhack
          April 5, 2015 at 2:12 am | #

          It… depends on the story. Much like straight porn, there’s various types of yaoi with different perspectives / focus on plot or lack thereof.

          Source: An old friend of mine who introduced me to it about ten years ago. I still kinda hate her for that. ;_;

        • Madock345
          Madock345
          April 5, 2015 at 2:20 am | #

          Well the idea is that Yaoi is marketed towards women while Bara is marketed towards men. Yaoi tends to be more romantic and stuff I guess. I think it’s a cultural thing since as a dude I still prefer yaoi, though both are awesome.

          • Mr. Morningstar
            Mr. Morningstar
            April 5, 2015 at 1:16 pm | #

            Honestly I find both Yaoi and Bara to be meh.

            Both seem to have weird ideas about proportions. With yaoi its the hands and head, with bara its the chests.

            Dear god how are those chests so damn huge.

            • Kryss LaBryn
              Kryss LaBryn
              April 5, 2015 at 5:04 pm | #

              Leifeld? *Snicker*

        • erronius
          erronius
          April 5, 2015 at 3:48 am | #

          Oooh I know this one! In japanese culture, dominance in women is heavily frowned on. Now, Yaoi usually has one older, dominant boy paired with a younger, passive boy. The idea was that a woman reader could safely put herself in the place of either character, even the dominant one, without causing them to violate cultural norms, allowing them to experience feelings which would make them feel uncomfortable in real life.

          So I guess the truth is, it is primarily marketed to Japanese women, for cultural reasons.

          • Shanunu
            Shanunu
            April 7, 2015 at 3:26 am | #

            Okay, THIS makes the most sense to me, and even then I don’t get why females who are attracted to guys would read about guys liking guys to make themselves feel happy, but hey, there’s tones of people that go for it.

        • Time Sage
          Time Sage
          April 5, 2015 at 5:25 am | #

          It’s marketed to females because it’s mostly written BY Females. Dudes tend to write more Bara related stories.

          • Deanatay
            Deanatay
            April 5, 2015 at 9:16 am | #

            I had no idea that ‘bara’ existed. Now I have Googled it. I shall never need to do so again. Thank you, commenters, for expanding my vocabulary.

            As Joyce mentioned, though, “This is knowledge I shouldn’t have.”

    • Plasma Mongoose
      Plasma Mongoose
      April 5, 2015 at 12:43 am | #

      Removing dude smut off your laptop and deck requires special cleaners and paper towels.

  2. Mr. Random
    Mr. Random
    April 5, 2015 at 12:01 am | #

    There is Smut of every kind.

    • Jen Aside
      Jen Aside
      April 5, 2015 at 12:07 am | #

      One might need a SMUT PEDDLER to manage it all!

      • Jen Aside
        Jen Aside
        April 5, 2015 at 12:08 am | #

        (inb4 YOU WEREN’T FIRST: I was distracted by XCOM)

        • AgentKeen
          AgentKeen
          April 5, 2015 at 12:15 am | #

          We totally didn’t get worried about you yesterday or anything.
          >.>
          <.<

          • Ryan
            Ryan
            April 5, 2015 at 12:35 am | #

            But in the course of our not-worried wonderings about your whereabouts, a bunch of us finally realized the true meaning of “Jen Aside”.

            • Mr. Morningstar
              Mr. Morningstar
              April 5, 2015 at 1:13 pm | #

              …
              OH FOR FUCK SAKE HOW DID I MISS THAT ONE

          • user18
            user18
            April 5, 2015 at 1:16 am | #

            See? I did nothing!

        • Boomwolf
          Boomwolf
          April 5, 2015 at 12:22 am | #

          I didn’t even panic… STOP LOOKING AT ME!!!!

          • Jen Aside
            Jen Aside
            April 5, 2015 at 1:09 am | #

            EVAC! We need emergency EVAC! NOW, DAMMIT, NOW!!!

            *shoots friendly*

            • 3dGuard
              3dGuard
              April 5, 2015 at 1:52 am | #

              Every game mission in Long War ever >_>

              • Rutee
                Rutee
                April 5, 2015 at 7:54 am | #

                Put some damn alien trophies on your rookies if you don’t want them panicking. They gave you 3 pockets at game start for a reason.

                • Heimdallw32
                  Heimdallw32
                  April 5, 2015 at 11:11 am | #

                  But then I can’t put grenades in all those slots, and I’m not sure I want to live on that kind of world.

                • Jen Aside
                  Jen Aside
                  April 6, 2015 at 7:15 pm | #

                  The best is when a mind-controlled alien gets killed AND THAT MAKES THEN PANIC

                  whuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut

                • Jen Aside
                  Jen Aside
                  April 6, 2015 at 7:15 pm | #

                  THEM

                  I’M SO DISTRESSED I’M TYPOING

        • TheLurkerAbove
          TheLurkerAbove
          April 5, 2015 at 12:48 am | #

          XCOM is awesome. Surprised you were only distracted for 7 minutes.

        • Nightsbridge
          Nightsbridge
          April 5, 2015 at 12:58 am | #

          Distracted for only eight minutes by Xcom? You are terrifying.

          • Jen Aside
            Jen Aside
            April 5, 2015 at 1:09 am | #

            to be fair, someone else was playing ¬_¬ (I’m supposed to be working on something and am not, surprise surprise)

        • Pantheon the Mantheon
          Pantheon the Mantheon
          April 5, 2015 at 10:04 am | #

          From one Commander to another, I salute you Jen Aside. Show those little green assholes the meaning of that word your name sounds like!

      • JessWitt
        JessWitt
        April 5, 2015 at 12:12 am | #

        Just don’t confuse a dude smut peddler with a smut peddler dude.

      • syd
        syd
        April 5, 2015 at 1:38 am | #

        My smut is too strong for you, traveler

    • Ryan
      Ryan
      April 5, 2015 at 12:40 am | #

      But is there some sort of law or rule on the internet somewhere that codifies this idea? Perhaps one in a numbered list of rules?

    • Pat
      Pat
      April 5, 2015 at 1:35 am | #

      Just type literally any word or phrase into a search engine to find it.

      • John
        John
        April 5, 2015 at 2:15 am | #

        I just typed “literally any phrase” into GIS, and, with safe search on, got full-frontal naked chick on the eighth screen of results.

        • Madock345
          Madock345
          April 5, 2015 at 2:22 am | #

          You went to the eighth page of Google? I don’t think I’ve ever been past the second, and only then when I’m rea desperate.

          • John
            John
            April 5, 2015 at 4:19 am | #

            Eighth screen, first page. And I don’t run my browser full-screen.

            • Kintrex
              Kintrex
              April 5, 2015 at 4:37 pm | #

              I tried that with safe search both on and off, and didn’t see any nudity. Perhaps Google’s search algorithms have been trained to show you nudity?

        • fogel
          fogel
          April 5, 2015 at 5:12 pm | #

          I tried in Bing. No naked ladies, but a bunch of cool stuff.

  3. JustcallmeSoul
    JustcallmeSoul
    April 5, 2015 at 12:01 am | #

    joyce… nuuuu

  4. timemonkey
    timemonkey
    April 5, 2015 at 12:02 am | #

    But Ethan, imagine how much more fun it would be without the shame.

    • Plasma Mongoose
      Plasma Mongoose
      April 5, 2015 at 12:44 am | #

      Maybe he needs the shame so he can feel dirty when he does it.

  5. Idon'tcarenomore
    Idon'tcarenomore
    April 5, 2015 at 12:03 am | #

    Joyce at least is not being too pushy. just sorta.
    And her world expands every day 🙂

  6. grantimusmaximus
    grantimusmaximus
    April 5, 2015 at 12:04 am | #

    And now the knowledge that Dude Smut (my guess is that is the name of the next slipshine, the one with 3 or more dudes) is going to forever hang over Joyce’s innocent little head for the rest of the day.

    • cesium133
      cesium133
      April 5, 2015 at 12:12 am | #

      The Dude Smut websites will notice the traffic coming from Indiana University suddenly skyrocket, and then Ruth will suddenly have to deal with more complaints about permanent markered dongs.

    • Rycan
      Rycan
      April 5, 2015 at 1:04 am | #

      To be fair, Joyce has a limited capacity to imagine what Dude Smut would actually entail. Maybe they tickle each other with drumsticks in her mind?

      • James
        James
        April 5, 2015 at 10:38 am | #

        Whatever she actually imagines, there’s probably a market out there for exactly that.

  7. Catullus
    Catullus
    April 5, 2015 at 12:04 am | #

    Ethan, you may have unleashed something dangerous

    • grantimusmaximus
      grantimusmaximus
      April 5, 2015 at 12:07 am | #

      SEXO LOCO!

    • grantimusmaximus
      grantimusmaximus
      April 5, 2015 at 12:08 am | #

      SEXO LOCO

      • grantimusmaximus
        grantimusmaximus
        April 5, 2015 at 12:09 am | #

        woops, double post.

        • AgentKeen
          AgentKeen
          April 5, 2015 at 12:14 am | #

          SO LOCO IT CAN’T BE CONTAINED BY ONE POST!

    • Comatose
      Comatose
      April 5, 2015 at 2:31 am | #

      Cue slipshine:
      “Joyce Snaps and Sucks a Billion Dicks.”

      • Deanatay
        Deanatay
        April 5, 2015 at 9:22 am | #

        Joyce Snaps and Downloads a Billion Dicks… To Draw
        aka
        A Phallady Is Born

    • zoomer296
      zoomer296
      April 5, 2015 at 12:26 pm | #

      The rise of the Anti-Joyce!

      http://walkypedia.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-Joyce

  8. Kris
    Kris
    April 5, 2015 at 12:04 am | #

    There’s a whole world of smut out there Joyce. You haven’t even scratched the surface.

    • Ryan
      Ryan
      April 5, 2015 at 12:42 am | #

      … which is just one of the many kinds of smut out there.

      • neeks
        neeks
        April 5, 2015 at 1:23 am | #

        Scratching surfaces?

        • Bagge
          Bagge
          April 5, 2015 at 1:58 am | #

          DUDES DOIN’ IT

          • Yossarian Duck
            Yossarian Duck
            April 5, 2015 at 5:12 am | #

            …ON SURFACES, WHILE SCRATCHING

            • Mr. Morningstar
              Mr. Morningstar
              April 5, 2015 at 1:12 pm | #

              Kinky.

  9. otusasio451
    otusasio451
    April 5, 2015 at 12:04 am | #

    Joyce, NO!!! Stay away from the internet! You’ll never be the same!! Don’t go to the Lemon Party, forget about eh Sandbox, and DON’T GO TO PEN ISLAND!

    • Cynthia
      Cynthia
      April 5, 2015 at 12:07 am | #

      Whatever she does, she absolutely cannot go to r/elsanna. Very very very slippery things would ensue…

      • grantimusmaximus
        grantimusmaximus
        April 5, 2015 at 12:08 am | #

        She might need a cold shower afterwards. A frozen one, if you will.

        • Plasma Mongoose
          Plasma Mongoose
          April 5, 2015 at 12:47 am | #

          Especially with all that Anna/Elsa Rule 34 out there. 😀

        • Rycan
          Rycan
          April 5, 2015 at 1:06 am | #

          That would just give her a concussion.

        • Cynthia
          Cynthia
          April 5, 2015 at 11:27 am | #

          Ice is slippery!

    • Orbit Junkie
      Orbit Junkie
      April 5, 2015 at 7:14 am | #

      Yeah, there’s no way Joyce could handle all of those dirty, dirty custom pens.

      • Orbit Junkie
        Orbit Junkie
        April 5, 2015 at 7:17 am | #

        Just thinking about all of those skilled craftsmen handling that large assortment of exotic virgin wood is getting me hot.

        • Orbit Junkie
          Orbit Junkie
          April 5, 2015 at 7:20 am | #

          Ooh! They’ve also got hand-rubbed lacquers! (Seriously, for a custom pen website that’s had to deal with an unfortunate name for its entire existence, their web designers are terrible at removing innuendo)

          • Orbit Junkie
            Orbit Junkie
            April 5, 2015 at 7:22 am | #

            And I have missed the joke twice.

          • brionl
            brionl
            April 5, 2015 at 12:28 pm | #

            Pen Island is a misnomer.
            (It’s really a peninsula)

  10. Demon Something
    Demon Something
    April 5, 2015 at 12:05 am | #

    You know what. He’s just not ready. It takes time sometimes for that level of confidence. Took me a year. Though everyone knows in Ethan’s case.

    • Time Sage
      Time Sage
      April 5, 2015 at 5:35 am | #

      I don’t think I was ready when I came out. It was cause by boyfriend induced trauma (AKA Getting a text message that read like a suicide note and then not hearing from him for hours. I texted him daily after that for awhile) Coming out is scary. That said the more people you tell, the easier it becomes. I can flat out admit it now to anyone (Aside from a small handful I’m purposely hiding it from)

  11. elielh
    elielh
    April 5, 2015 at 12:05 am | #

    Joyce, embrace the smut, you know you want it.

    • Kris
      Kris
      April 5, 2015 at 12:12 am | #

      Now I wonder what kind of smut Joyce would be into. Dexter and Monkey Master smut? It probably exists.

      • elielh
        elielh
        April 5, 2015 at 12:19 am | #

        In our universe, I don’t know, but in the dumbiverse it most exist.

      • Bill
        Bill
        April 5, 2015 at 12:23 am | #

        Of course it exists.  Rule 34, don’t ‘cha know.

      • Vorkon
        Vorkon
        April 5, 2015 at 1:05 am | #

        I’m calling it right now, that’s the next slipshine.

        Just imagine all the places he’ll put that power booster rod…

      • Kamino Neko
        Kamino Neko
        April 5, 2015 at 9:37 am | #

        Bible smut.

        Dirty, dirty bible smut.

        • Leorale
          Leorale
          April 5, 2015 at 11:58 am | #

          Ooh, Boaz, take me on the threashing floor! You are the next of kin!

          • AlexanderHammil
            AlexanderHammil
            April 5, 2015 at 1:53 pm | #

            Onan (Mostly) Performs A Sex, a tragical slipshine in three-quarters of an act.

            • Rycan
              Rycan
              April 6, 2015 at 5:28 am | #

              And that’s only Act II.

  12. JessWitt
    JessWitt
    April 5, 2015 at 12:05 am | #

    Correction Ethan, you have a second ex-girlfriend and a whole bunch of yaoi fans who want to hurry you out of the closet.

    *sigh* But really dude, take your time. If you’re not comfortable yet, fine.

    • MM
      MM
      April 5, 2015 at 12:10 am | #

      And you may just have ensured 100% overlap between those two groups.

    • Smiling Cat
      Smiling Cat
      April 5, 2015 at 2:14 am | #

      I am neither an ex or a yaoi fan, but I also want him to hurry out of the closet. Possibly while singing Let it Go. Maybe while slapping one of the board of directors of Chick fil a in the face with one of their chicken sandwiches. (Not one of the workers, though. Those guys are just trying to make rent).

      I’m a firm believer that personal growth through a defiant stand against everybody that would fuck with you is the best kind of growth.

      • Disloyal Subject
        Disloyal Subject
        April 5, 2015 at 2:21 am | #

        Of all the appropriate choices for slapping them with, you picked a sandwich?
        Well… perhaps “appropriate” isn’t the vest choice of word…

        • Smiling Cat
          Smiling Cat
          April 5, 2015 at 3:54 am | #

          It’s not about the violence. Like, I don’t want them slapped to hurt them. I imagine the scene as an act of defiance rather than retribution. Straightforward, forthright, and nothing people need to call cops or ambulances over.

          • No Name
            No Name
            April 5, 2015 at 7:48 am | #

            Unfortunately, hitting anyone with anything is assault and/or battery, depending on district, and the jerks at Chick-fil-a would have a case. Sorry, Smiling Cat.

            • Kryss LaBryn
              Kryss LaBryn
              April 5, 2015 at 5:10 pm | #

              Hit them in the face with a stunningly appropriate metaphor.

              Should still be safe. 😀

            • Smiling Cat
              Smiling Cat
              April 5, 2015 at 10:32 pm | #

              If a gay man hit them in the face with one of their own sandwiches over their stance on gays, without causing any actual injury, they wouldn’t risk the press by pursuing it in the courts. Ethan would be a folk hero.

  13. -Sentinel-
    -Sentinel-
    April 5, 2015 at 12:06 am | #

    I’m trying not to be judgmental, but a four-hour binge EVERY NIGHT sounds rather pathological.

    • JessWitt
      JessWitt
      April 5, 2015 at 12:10 am | #

      It sounds tiring personally. Ethan has SOME stamina.

      • -Sentinel-
        -Sentinel-
        April 5, 2015 at 12:13 am | #

        Looking at smut requires no stamina.

        • JessWitt
          JessWitt
          April 5, 2015 at 12:17 am | #

          Looking at a computer screen for four hours straight can be murder on the eyeballs.

        • Urukak
          Urukak
          April 5, 2015 at 12:36 am | #

          Masturbating while doing so does though. That said, Shortpacked!Ethan once had a boner that lasted for like six weeks, so I’m not willing to discount anything.

          • Rycan
            Rycan
            April 5, 2015 at 1:08 am | #

            I don’t recall Viagra ever being involved in Shortpacked!

            • Spencer
              Spencer
              April 5, 2015 at 12:25 pm | #

              It was because of Batman toys.

              http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=2025

              • Rycan
                Rycan
                April 6, 2015 at 5:26 am | #

                So, Batman Viagra.

          • DarkoNeko
            DarkoNeko
            April 5, 2015 at 4:36 am | #

            huuum if that lasts over 4/6 hours, one is supposed to see a doc because the zone starts risking necrosis from lack of oxygen

  14. 6Qubed
    6Qubed
    April 5, 2015 at 12:06 am | #

    *”A Whole New World* from Aladdin plays softly in the distance*

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      April 5, 2015 at 1:29 am | #

      Complete with a medley of a shirtless Aladdin

  15. Stephen Bierce
    Stephen Bierce
    April 5, 2015 at 12:06 am | #

    The host sites have those nasty Russian spam worms infecting them so deleting the browser history is a very appropriate thing to do. So I am told.

  16. Hannah
    Hannah
    April 5, 2015 at 12:06 am | #

    Ethan has just opened a bunch whole new doors for Joyce… and maybe even a back door or two, you know, if she ever discovers yaoi. 😛

  17. shoeboxjeddy
    shoeboxjeddy
    April 5, 2015 at 12:07 am | #

    “I’m a little ashamed… but I think that’s natural.”

    /It’s Always Sunny

  18. licoricepencil
    licoricepencil
    April 5, 2015 at 12:08 am | #

    Joyce’s reaction was my reaction. I still have not gone looking for the dude smut.

    • Rycan
      Rycan
      April 5, 2015 at 1:15 am | #

      I can’t decide if your gravatar is wholly appropriate or wholly inappropriate for your comment.

      • No Name
        No Name
        April 5, 2015 at 7:51 am | #

        It’s in that quantum state where it’s both at the same time.

        • Rycan
          Rycan
          April 6, 2015 at 5:24 am | #

          That’s impossible. Could be undecided, though.

  19. HeinousActsZX
    HeinousActsZX
    April 5, 2015 at 12:09 am | #

    Incognito mode is your friend, Ethan.

  20. JessWitt
    JessWitt
    April 5, 2015 at 12:09 am | #

    Where there’s dude smut, there’s fire…men. Sexy firemen.

    • fogel
      fogel
      April 5, 2015 at 1:08 am | #

      Wrong webcomic: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2929

      • JessWitt
        JessWitt
        April 5, 2015 at 6:45 am | #

        It can be two webcomics! And beyond the sexual binary, too.

        • Cynthia
          Cynthia
          April 5, 2015 at 11:57 pm | #

          And that’s Tengen Toppa!

  21. Blue
    Blue
    April 5, 2015 at 12:10 am | #

    What should we start the countdown to Joyce going in search of gay porn at?

    (Also, she should talk to Amber about this, maybe? We know Amber reads explicit slashfic, so she might have information relevant to Joyce’s …interests here.)

  22. Kris
    Kris
    April 5, 2015 at 12:10 am | #

    You know Jacob could have been in this strip. He seems like a trustworth guy. He can keep a secret.

  23. Vangeln
    Vangeln
    April 5, 2015 at 12:11 am | #

    Jacob is probably binging some kind of smut while he’s not present.

  24. dmaxx
    dmaxx
    April 5, 2015 at 12:12 am | #

    Dat “i know i shouldn’t know but tell me anyway so i can go all fangirl like over it” face at the end xD

  25. Kernanator
    Kernanator
    April 5, 2015 at 12:14 am | #

    Pandora’s box has been opened. There is no going back from this knowledge.

    • Deanatay
      Deanatay
      April 5, 2015 at 9:28 am | #

      Her name’s ‘Joyce’. It’s ‘Joyce’s Box’.

      • Skai Cyan
        Skai Cyan
        April 6, 2015 at 1:59 am | #

        Much to Becky’s dismay, ‘Joyce’s Box’ stays firmly shut. ifyouknowwhatimean.jpg

  26. TSB
    TSB
    April 5, 2015 at 12:14 am | #

    Is this going to be a comedy of errors where Joyce’s new sensitivity leads her to respectfully help Ethan stay closeted until he’s ready to come out, leading Dorothy to believe that Joyce is continuing with her “pray the gay away” plan?

    • JessWitt
      JessWitt
      April 5, 2015 at 12:19 am | #

      Much Ado About Dumbing?

  27. John
    John
    April 5, 2015 at 12:15 am | #

    Come out of the closet, Ethan! Think of Jacob’s appearance numbers!

    Also think of Jacob’s appearance. You know you want to.

  28. GoogerGeiger
    GoogerGeiger
    April 5, 2015 at 12:16 am | #

    No, Joyce. Getting on the Dude Smut Train puts you on a one-way trip to Premarital Hanky Panky-ville!

  29. Yu'Karaya
    Yu'Karaya
    April 5, 2015 at 12:18 am | #

    And then a yaoi consuming monster is born

  30. pretty flacko
    pretty flacko
    April 5, 2015 at 12:18 am | #

    Wow the comments here are very quick. What kind of sorcery do they possess?

    • Disloyal Subject
      Disloyal Subject
      April 5, 2015 at 2:24 am | #

      Timeliness, fascination, and quantity.
      You get used to it. Welcome to the swarm.

  31. Luzahn
    Luzahn
    April 5, 2015 at 12:18 am | #

    Careful Joyce, you’re dangerously close to becoming an adorable Gollum.

  32. AgentKeen
    AgentKeen
    April 5, 2015 at 12:20 am | #

    Aww, Joyce seems to already have some understanding of Rule 34.

    She’s growing up.

  33. tim gueguen
    tim gueguen
    April 5, 2015 at 12:20 am | #

    So, how long before Joyce finds out there’s Jesus slashfic?

    • Boomwolf
      Boomwolf
      April 5, 2015 at 12:20 am | #

      please tell me that isn’t a thing…

      • elielh
        elielh
        April 5, 2015 at 12:25 am | #

        Why wouldn’t it be? It’s the internet, we do not fear such things as heresy.

      • John
        John
        April 5, 2015 at 12:26 am | #

        Of course it’s a thing. Judas betrays Jesus with a kiss, and that’s more fuel than slashficcers need right there.

        • Boomwolf
          Boomwolf
          April 5, 2015 at 12:29 am | #

          And with that, i hear by renounce my humanity to become a wolf… a boomwolf mind you, but a wolf nonetheless.

          • elielh
            elielh
            April 5, 2015 at 12:34 am | #

            Optimus Prime X Jesus short story… https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10656008/1/Honk-for-Jesus

            • boomwolf
              boomwolf
              April 5, 2015 at 12:57 am | #

              … If you need me, I’ll just be in the corner, crying for the rest of my life.

        • StClair
          StClair
          April 5, 2015 at 6:27 am | #

          Jesus Christ Superstar is from 1970, and is soaked in jealous HoYay. I’m sure there are earlier examples.

          • Leorale
            Leorale
            April 5, 2015 at 12:07 pm | #

            Jesus hung out with twelve dudes in the desert and then they all washed each other’s feet. It’s RIGHT THERE

          • John
            John
            April 5, 2015 at 4:51 pm | #

            HoooooYeah. The movie opens with Judas storming in all in a jealous rage because Mary Magdalene’s making time with Jesus, then there’s the betrayal with the kiss, and then Judas, before his suicide, echos Mary Magdalene’s love song to Jesus almost word-for-word.

            JUDAS:
            I don’t know how to love him
            I don’t know why he moves me
            He’s a man
            He’s just a man
            He’s not a King
            He’s just the same
            As anyone I know
            He scares me so
            When he’s cold and dead
            Will he let me be?
            Does he love?
            Does he love me too?
            Does he care for me?

            I’m pretty sure the slashfic subtext was deliberate, too.

            • Adam Black
              Adam Black
              April 10, 2015 at 8:07 pm | #

              Never a Fan of Superstar.

              The Ho-yay is little more explicit in this Judas slash siren:

              Haven’t seen you in quite a while
              I was down the hold just passing time
              Last time we met was a low-lit room
              We were as close together as a bride and groom
              We ate the food, we drank the wine
              Everybody having a good time
              Except you
              You were talking about the end of the world

              I took the money
              I spiked your drink
              You miss too much these days if you stop to think
              You led me on with those innocent eyes
              You know I love the element of surprise
              In the garden I was playing the tart
              I kissed your lips and broke your heart
              You, you were acting like it was
              The end of the world

              In my dream I was drowning my sorrows
              But my sorrows, they learned to swim
              Surrounding me, going down on me
              Spilling over the brim
              Waves of regret and waves of joy
              I reached out for the one I tried to destroy
              You, you said you’d wait
              ‘Til the end of the world
              — Paul Hewson ( of “The Hype” and “The Passengers” )

    • fogel
      fogel
      April 5, 2015 at 5:15 pm | #

      Like, Seymour’ s in Sinfest?

  34. Someone
    Someone
    April 5, 2015 at 12:23 am | #

    Just checked, and yes, yes their is.

  35. Bill
    Bill
    April 5, 2015 at 12:25 am | #

    I could really never understand the desire or craving for porn, dude-smut or otherwise. As far as I could figure out, sex was never meant to be a spectator sport.

    • Trolldrool
      Trolldrool
      April 5, 2015 at 12:34 am | #

      It’s basically all about fulfilling fantasies. And sometimes exploring what turns you on or what turns you off.

    • John
      John
      April 5, 2015 at 12:35 am | #

      Most people’ve got at least a little voyeur in them (as evidenced by the fact that smut’s driven basically every media advance in the history of ever, from clay sculpting to broadband Internet), and exhibitionism is a pretty common kink, too.

    • Plasma Mongoose
      Plasma Mongoose
      April 5, 2015 at 12:50 am | #

      Wanking to porn is a spectator sport now, I’m not comfortable with the idea of wanking in front of an audience.

    • Incomitatus
      Incomitatus
      April 5, 2015 at 4:06 am | #

      Throughout the vast majority of human history the vast majority of people did not have private bedrooms.

      Sex has *mostly* been a spectator sport.

    • Vancore
      Vancore
      April 5, 2015 at 7:52 am | #

      I agree, the porn you visualize in your head is much more intense and personal then most porn that people film.

    • Hoboturtle
      Hoboturtle
      April 5, 2015 at 9:32 am | #

      Ha, spectator sport. Like couldn’t you imagine all porn having three judges giving points on how well they did?

      • tim gueguen
        tim gueguen
        April 5, 2015 at 11:27 am | #

        Given the variety of porn out there it’s surprising someone hasn’t done a “Sex Olympics” where teams compete against each other, live on webcam, with judges rating them.

        • Mr. Morningstar
          Mr. Morningstar
          April 5, 2015 at 1:08 pm | #

          I beleive I remember there is some porn where two people wrestle, and the winner ends up topping the lose in the ensuing porn.

          I think it was only guys on guys and girls on girls tho.

        • Bill
          Bill
          April 5, 2015 at 1:35 pm | #

          Tim and Hoboturtle, check out “The Groove Tube”.  It was a 1974 film consisting of short vignettes and parodies, in the style of “Kentucky Fried Movie”, and included in the cast Chevy Chase and Richard Belzer; and one of the vignettes was a skit called “Sex Olympics”.  I’m sure you can find it on-line somewhere or maybe thru Amazon or Netflix.

          • Roborat
            Roborat
            April 6, 2015 at 3:00 pm | #

            Damn, you beat me to it, I had almost the exact same post typed up, then I happened to scroll down to see if anybody had replied yet, good thing I did.

      • ahuh
        ahuh
        April 5, 2015 at 5:38 pm | #

        You’ve seen the end of Bananas haven’t you?

  36. Jen
    Jen
    April 5, 2015 at 12:25 am | #

    I imagine Joyce’s reaction to dude smut would be much like this youtube vid: Korean Girls Are Introduced to Magic Mike — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYRH-nOHUtM

    • Leorale
      Leorale
      April 5, 2015 at 12:20 pm | #

      Oh wow, this reaction video is awesome.

      • Jen
        Jen
        April 5, 2015 at 2:00 pm | #

        The guy did a whole series of “korean girls react to” and “Korean guys react to” The one with the Anaconda video is good, too. 🙂

  37. Rodimiss
    Rodimiss
    April 5, 2015 at 12:31 am | #

    I am surprised that Joyce knows the term “smut.” My guess is from a traumatic experience in exploring the online Monkey Master fandom or something.

    • Deanatay
      Deanatay
      April 5, 2015 at 9:35 am | #

      ‘smut’ is a term religious people use a LOT, to describe media that portrays verboten subjects, like porn. The word ‘smut’ refers to dirt or soot, and is a way of saying something’s ‘dirty’.

      • fogel
        fogel
        April 5, 2015 at 5:18 pm | #

        From German schmutz, I believe.

  38. CenturyChild533
    CenturyChild533
    April 5, 2015 at 12:33 am | #

    “This is knowledge I should not have.”

    I usually find myself saying this about once a week in regards to the Internet.

  39. Plasma Mongoose
    Plasma Mongoose
    April 5, 2015 at 12:41 am | #

    I forgot that daylight savings was over today…

    • Jason
      Jason
      April 5, 2015 at 12:47 am | #

      Uh, wasn’t that a while ago?

      • Plasma Mongoose
        Plasma Mongoose
        April 5, 2015 at 12:53 am | #

        About a month ago, New York started their daylight saving, but since I live in South Australia, daylight savings ended today.

        • fogel
          fogel
          April 5, 2015 at 1:23 am | #

          Is it confusing dealing with SA’ s 1/2 hour offset? For me, dealing with time zones that are offset by whole hours is challenging enough.

          • DarkoNeko
            DarkoNeko
            April 5, 2015 at 1:29 am | #

            Here’s some more confusing : unlike USA, (most of) Europe switches time the last sunday of March.

          • Plasma Mongoose
            Plasma Mongoose
            April 5, 2015 at 2:26 am | #

            fogel: Only when it comes to dealing with Vic, NSW and Qld, I just remember DoA as starting at 15:31 Adelaide time during summer, 14:31 during the periods between the Adelaide and New York’s changing to & from daylight savings and finally 13:31 during winter.

            • fogel
              fogel
              April 5, 2015 at 5:21 pm | #

              My brain went phzzz at 15:31 :-0

              • fogel
                fogel
                April 5, 2015 at 5:34 pm | #

                The only thing my wife and I worry about is what time tests start in US Eastern Time and I write those on the calendar.

            • fogel
              fogel
              April 5, 2015 at 5:29 pm | #

              That’s why we need Zulu Time (= the whole earth is one time zone)!

  40. Liz
    Liz
    April 5, 2015 at 12:41 am | #

    Joyce, noooooo.

  41. Jason
    Jason
    April 5, 2015 at 12:48 am | #

    Why is Ethan hiding his mouth in Panel 3 if there’s no one else in the room? LOL

    • DarkoNeko
      DarkoNeko
      April 5, 2015 at 1:28 am | #

      Habit.

    • MiaKitty
      MiaKitty
      April 5, 2015 at 1:34 am | #

      Maybe Jacob is in the shared bath?

      Or Ethan could be worried that he’ll return from wherever he is any second.

      • Nono
        Nono
        April 5, 2015 at 7:54 am | #

        Jacob sharing a bath with other dudes.

        SHIPPING INTENSIFIES

  42. Adam Black
    Adam Black
    April 5, 2015 at 1:08 am | #

    wow. I just noticed the poster in Ethan’s door.

    I think My ex had the identical one.
    ( Sadly , He killed himself only 2.5 months before Transformers1 came out.

    He loved transformers so much, he got a degree in Electronic Engineering and Robotics ( and designed his own controller board )

    He had a very juvenile sense of humor, so Michael Bays version: would have loved it…

    Theres a significant chance he’d be alive ,if it came out a few months earlier.
    He wanted to build transformers. )

    • Black Bumblebee
      Black Bumblebee
      April 5, 2015 at 3:27 am | #

      Oh, wow. Sorry to hear that. I know that was a while back, but my prayers are with you for whatever that’s worth.

      • Adam Black
        Adam Black
        April 6, 2015 at 8:42 am | #

        Thanks.
        I probably only the notice the specific poster because of the month.

        http://web.archive.org/web/20070919014921/http://www.gammaburst.net/robotics/index.html

    • Leorale
      Leorale
      April 5, 2015 at 12:23 pm | #

      So sorry to hear about your loss. Thinking of you in internet land <3

      • Adam Black
        Adam Black
        April 6, 2015 at 8:46 am | #

        thanks.

        I just discovered his dad just died.

        Not sure his parents ever forgive me ( for outing him at the funeral ) .

        I signed the guestbook with compassionate words, and reminded them I exist.

        I guess If I was ever one to shy away from social-awkwardness, I wouldnt have told every one we were lovers ( after I was told not to )

  43. Bagge
    Bagge
    April 5, 2015 at 1:20 am | #

    Again Joyce impresses me by doing the right thing – she actively takes steps to stay friends with Ethan and leave the choice to come out to him. They can still hang out, follow each other to class, watch boy smut… NO, BAD THOUGHT.

    How long time does it take to go between the boys and girls dorm by the way? Is it just different floors?

    • TheStranger
      TheStranger
      April 5, 2015 at 2:01 am | #

      I dunno about IU, but almost 20 years ago my dorm at Mizzou was co-ed, and it was basically men’s wing/women’s wing. Walk down the hall and you go from outie land to innie land.

      You weren’t supposed to be in a member of the opposite sex’s room without either a chaperone or the door open, and I remember copious Jack Chick tracts “accidentally” left behind on the bus warning Mizzou students that they were all damned to hell because of the mixing of the sexes, but (at least in that dorm) the men and women didn’t have much more than a hallway separating them.

    • John
      John
      April 5, 2015 at 4:11 am | #

      I’ve never been to IU, much less Read Hall, but from what I gather from the Internet and the comic, Read is X-shaped, with four wings (Clark, Landes, Beck, and Curry) connected through a central lobby, and gender-segregated by wing, with ladies in Clark and Landes Wings and guys in Beck and Curry.

      The central cast ladies live on the 3rd floor of Clark Wing, while the guys are on the 3rd floor of Beck Wing, just a short stroll away. IIRC, the cafeteria we usually see them in is in Landes Wing.

      • No Name
        No Name
        April 5, 2015 at 4:51 pm | #

        What, not Curry? Think of all the pun potential!!

        Oh. Right.

  44. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    April 5, 2015 at 1:24 am | #

    Not much to say today.

  45. Darwin
    Darwin
    April 5, 2015 at 1:45 am | #

    Embrace the dude smut, Joyce! Embrace!

  46. E_Squared
    E_Squared
    April 5, 2015 at 1:45 am | #

    I cannot believe the level of civility in the comments section…I just…is this for real? Are there actually places on the internet where people are nice?
    A friend recently introduced me to these comics, but I’ve been afraid to even look at the comments because the internet.

    • Disloyal Subject
      Disloyal Subject
      April 5, 2015 at 2:31 am | #

      Yup. Accountability does that sometimes; there’s nothing to gain from being an asshole, and there aren’t enough of us for an asshole to go unnoticed or few enough for them to dominate.

      • Incomitatus
        Incomitatus
        April 5, 2015 at 4:03 am | #

        I would rather be the dominate asshole on a small forum than second on YouTube!

        *ahem* Forgive me, channeling my inner Caesar for a moment. Everyone is very nice here. I feel that if there could be tea and cookies, there would be tea and cookies.

        • StClair
          StClair
          April 5, 2015 at 6:31 am | #

          I thought that was Milton, Paradise Lost, anyway.

          • Incomitatus
            Incomitatus
            April 6, 2015 at 1:49 am | #

            “I would rather be first here than second in Rome,” was a quote from Caesar referring to some poor little village, according to Plutarch.

        • Leorale
          Leorale
          April 5, 2015 at 12:28 pm | #

          Plus Willis himself moderates the comments to quickly remove anything really terrible from this space. I don’t know how often he has to use his IP-ban-hammer, but I imagine that it’s something of a deterrent as well.

          • Leorale
            Leorale
            April 5, 2015 at 12:31 pm | #

            PS: if you like writing stories and/or text-based browser games, another nice-people place on the internet is . There are still nice people.

    • heavvymetalqueen
      heavvymetalqueen
      April 5, 2015 at 4:08 am | #

      Just don’t be around when the strip is about Becky

      • Kamino Neko
        Kamino Neko
        April 5, 2015 at 9:52 am | #

        Or Roz.

    • timemonkey
      timemonkey
      April 5, 2015 at 7:44 am | #

      Our asshole levels vary depending on the subject but Willis puts a stop to anything going too far. Pretty much we’ve been conditioned to stay within the boundries.

    • Aris Katsaris
      Aris Katsaris
      April 5, 2015 at 7:50 am | #

      It’s always about the moderation. Strong moderation means civility, weak moderation means rudeness. I don’t always like Willis’ moderating decisions (I’m sure he’s banned me and deleted my posts on occassion) but I like that the moderation exists.

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      April 5, 2015 at 10:37 am | #

      I’m so glad that’s the impression we make. Come and help us make this place awesome.

    • Adam Black
      Adam Black
      April 5, 2015 at 5:08 pm | #

      Depends, There used to fever pitch of white hot hatred aimed at Danny ( character ) for a couple of years.

      I thought it had more than the passing of of misdirected misogyny, which is ironic considering hes male , and many of his detractors werent.

      That thankfully seemed to evaporate once the big reveal that he’s BI.

      I’m not sure the fandom appreciated that in real life, they would be discriminating against a bi-dude for being for more sensitive; and make it less likely he would feel safe to come out.

      Nor that Patriarchy is a system oppressions and privileges and gender-codes policed by both and for both genders.

      lately the weird attacks has been on Becky.

      Sure, she can be a rude, crude brassy lesbian ; A female walky with more balls and less self-awareness. Sooner or later she will really put her foot in her mouth, But that day has not come.

      She has beautifully and gracefully left the closet with an infectious enthusiam its hard not to share.

      Willis you have done a wonderfully inspiring story with Becky.

      Many of Beckys detractors wanted to shove her back in the closet to “protect joyce’s feelings”.

      Thats a real terrible thing to say to a young gay — to place the burden of another’s mental health on them ( due to their own internalized bigotry ) to hide who and what they are. People stay in the closet for decades over that.

      IRL Beckys Unbridled parade of rainbows, glitter, Lillith fairs(?) gets to last 6 weeks without negative comments.

      Willis , you ought to work a Pride-parade into the story-line

  47. mokia
    mokia
    April 5, 2015 at 1:49 am | #

    How long can the closet references last? Let’s find out!

    • Leorale
      Leorale
      April 5, 2015 at 12:33 pm | #

      As long as Ethan’s in one! (Transparent though it may be.)

  48. SKRen
    SKRen
    April 5, 2015 at 2:12 am | #

    … will Joyce turn out to be a hardcore Fujoshi? Only time will tell.

    • DarkoNeko
      DarkoNeko
      April 5, 2015 at 4:30 am | #

      Not any more than QC’s Hannelore is, I’d guess.

      • Roborat
        Roborat
        April 6, 2015 at 3:05 pm | #

        Or Ruby from Sticky Dilly Buns.

  49. Smiling Cat
    Smiling Cat
    April 5, 2015 at 2:16 am | #

    Joyce, you searched out a peener on the interwebs for visual reference. Don’t tell me you don’t know about dude smut.

    • Disloyal Subject
      Disloyal Subject
      April 5, 2015 at 2:32 am | #

      She could easily have managed to stick to strictly scientific material, perhaps through clinical terminology…

      • Smiling Cat
        Smiling Cat
        April 5, 2015 at 4:00 am | #

        I chuckle at the thought of her relying on scientific material.

        • DarkoNeko
          DarkoNeko
          April 5, 2015 at 4:29 am | #

          She checked the Wikipedia article.

  50. maxyai
    maxyai
    April 5, 2015 at 3:25 am | #

    I vote for the next Slipshine to be Joyce and a computer and dude smut. Wait, that’s not one of the choices?

    • Freezer
      Freezer
      April 5, 2015 at 4:30 am | #

      DOA: Joyce Dials God.

      • Renadt
        Renadt
        April 5, 2015 at 5:40 am | #

        EPIC! +15 internets!

      • cybik
        cybik
        April 5, 2015 at 12:07 pm | #

        Or is it “Joyce’s dialed up herself to God”?

      • Taigan
        Taigan
        April 6, 2015 at 6:33 am | #

        DOA: Joyce Cums to Jesus

  51. Black Bumblebee
    Black Bumblebee
    April 5, 2015 at 3:25 am | #

    I’m more upset to see a Michael Bay Prime poster on his closet. Surely he’d be more of an IDW TF fan…?

    • timemonkey
      timemonkey
      April 5, 2015 at 7:42 am | #

      Amber’s the big Transformers fan in this universe, makes sense for Ethan to be more mainstream.

  52. nothri
    nothri
    April 5, 2015 at 3:40 am | #

    I just came back from a convention in support of alternative lifestyles (including homosexuality). This comic is kind of awesome and hilarious to come home to.

  53. heavvymetalqueen
    heavvymetalqueen
    April 5, 2015 at 4:11 am | #

    I am all for Ethan being the catalyst of Joyce’s sexual awakening in a much less traumatic way that she thought he’d be. With the dudesmut.

  54. CarlaGriffin
    CarlaGriffin
    April 5, 2015 at 4:17 am | #

    Oh no, Joyce knows about the dude smut! Nothing can stop her now!

    • Mr. Morningstar
      Mr. Morningstar
      April 5, 2015 at 1:05 pm | #

      Wait until she discovers rule 34

      • Heavensrun
        Heavensrun
        April 5, 2015 at 1:48 pm | #

        Dexter/Monkey Master slash, here we come!

      • Tacos
        Tacos
        April 5, 2015 at 10:38 pm | #

        What’d happen once she discovers rule 63?

  55. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    April 5, 2015 at 4:28 am | #

    Y’know, Joyce probably went to see Ethan because she couldn’t bear to stay alone just after having been reminded of her trauma.

  56. Freezer
    Freezer
    April 5, 2015 at 4:29 am | #

    “Dude Smut” has overwritten “gay porn” and “yaoi” in my brain.

  57. OnyxIdol
    OnyxIdol
    April 5, 2015 at 4:39 am | #

    Yes Joyce, you should educate yourself on the topic, haha.

  58. Rebecca from the Lagoon
    Rebecca from the Lagoon
    April 5, 2015 at 4:51 am | #

    I expect that looking at “dude smut” is a lot like looking at a fire hose catalogue.

  59. CianM1301
    CianM1301
    April 5, 2015 at 5:23 am | #

    If you only knew the power of the Dark Side, Joyce.

  60. Taigan
    Taigan
    April 5, 2015 at 7:41 am | #

    How did Joyce Google a bunch of penis images to become the Whiteboard DingDong Bandit and NOT find out about dude smut?

    • CianM1301
      CianM1301
      April 5, 2015 at 7:54 am | #

      Wikipedia.

  61. Deanatay
    Deanatay
    April 5, 2015 at 9:40 am | #

    Joyce: come find me on the Internet! We can be such good friends. I’ll help to ease all of your uncomfortable cravings, without making you feel at all dirty or ashamed! Don’t be afraid.

    All my love,
    Dude Smut

  62. Aeron
    Aeron
    April 5, 2015 at 10:28 am | #

    Slipshine: Joyce does a dude smut binge (On Ethan’s laptop).

  63. Bagge
    Bagge
    April 5, 2015 at 10:45 am | #

    I’m sad that Joyce missed this opportunity to talk to Becky about the assault, but I’m glad Ethan has become a way for her to deal with the trauma.

    • timemonkey
      timemonkey
      April 5, 2015 at 10:56 am | #

      Joyce is already surrounded by people she could talk to about it, Becky would be no different. Less likely in fact since she’d have to relive the entire incident.

      • Bagge
        Bagge
        April 5, 2015 at 11:37 am | #

        True, and Joyce has chosen Ethan, and to a lesser extent Dorothy and Sarah – all excellent choices. But I think it would be very healthy for her and for her relationship with Becky if she told Becky as well.

        Joyce has a tendency to keep things under wraps even when they are eating her, and up until four weeks ago Becky was the one person she could share EVERYTHING with. I think she would benefit from reestablishing that trust (I mean – it’s not like Becky has not shared a fundamental, life changing, potentially embarrassing and damaging secret with her or anything).

        • Nono
          Nono
          April 5, 2015 at 11:40 am | #

          Different issues, however. For Becky, the secret was liberating, it was like cutting off a chain. For Joyce, it would be like reliving putting it on.

          • Bagge
            Bagge
            April 5, 2015 at 11:44 am | #

            Unfortunately she is already reliving it – two times within the last two days.

            But yeah, the parallel is not perfect and I may very well be wrong.

            • Mr. Morningstar
              Mr. Morningstar
              April 5, 2015 at 1:04 pm | #

              To be fair, she has a few friends who already know about it if she wants to talk about it.

              I imagine it’s easier to talk to someone who is already familiar with the situation then with someone who isn’t should she decide to.

  64. overdosed
    overdosed
    April 5, 2015 at 1:06 pm | #

    im guessing by smut they mean porn and joyce looks intrested in it but cant admit becuase you know its kinda frowned upon by her family wich is why she calls it smut

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      April 5, 2015 at 2:25 pm | #

      More to the point, it is frowned upon by herself. The whole “sexual desire” thing is awfully confusing right now.

      • overdosed
        overdosed
        April 5, 2015 at 2:47 pm | #

        yeah and plus with becky being open about her sexuality might be changing joyces outlook as well btw i misspelt my e mail thats why my gravatar was different

  65. B.D
    B.D
    April 5, 2015 at 1:26 pm | #

    And then she convinces Ethan to dress as Sherlock for Halloween… For “research”. Or possible to test a “theory” based on “evidence”.

  66. Black
    Black
    April 5, 2015 at 8:14 pm | #

    Man, Ethan is so far in the closet metaphorically that I’m surprised he’s not LITERALLY living in the closet in his dorm.

  67. Marc in MN
    Marc in MN
    April 5, 2015 at 9:56 pm | #

    This makes me think of that Family Guy when the guys tell Guagmire about internet porn and he’s never heard of it before.

    Are we going to see Joyce in a couple weeks with one arm that is noticeably more muscular than the other one? 😉

  68. Venn
    Venn
    April 5, 2015 at 10:04 pm | #

    How was this comic titled ‘Forthright’ and not ‘Dude Smut’?

  69. Tacos
    Tacos
    April 5, 2015 at 10:35 pm | #

    Ethan should not have given her such knowledge yet. Joyce might go on a dude smut binge that’ll put Ethan’s 4 hour one to shame.

  70. Skai Cyan
    Skai Cyan
    April 6, 2015 at 2:34 am | #

    Ethan, stop binging on dude smut like a plebeian. Private Window/Incognito man, it’s self cleaning. Besides, they you don’t have to do a “walk of shame” and delete things individually.

  71. Chris
    Chris
    April 6, 2015 at 5:25 am | #

    Joyce is the cutest she has ever been right now.

  72. Doh
    Doh
    April 7, 2015 at 9:46 am | #

    I’ve been reading this comic for far too long to have just now realized that part of Ethan’s love of Transformers stems from the fact that he identifies with robots being in “disguise”.

  73. man jean
    man jean
    August 2, 2015 at 5:02 am | #

    my first read-through of this left me in the dislike-zone for ethan. re-reading this, he’s honestly pretty ok

  74. batman
    batman
    September 7, 2015 at 7:22 pm | #

    same ethan, same, though im not ashamed of the gay part but ashamed of the cycle of so much porn

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