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Iguana

by David M Willis on October 2, 2017 at 12:01 am
  • 01 - Face the Strange
└ Tags: fuckface, malaya, marcie, sal

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  1. Doctor_Who
    Doctor_Who
    October 2, 2017 at 12:02 am | #

    I love how the layout of this makes it look like Marcie has been standing there the whole time, and Sal didn’t notice until Malaya gestured to her.

    • Tacos
      Tacos
      October 2, 2017 at 12:08 am | #

      Maybe Marcie has been learning from Dina?

    • Miri
      Miri
      October 2, 2017 at 1:34 am | #

      My preferred interpretation ia that Marcie was also in the box

      • Bruceski
        Bruceski
        October 2, 2017 at 3:04 am | #

        She’d like to be, anyway.

        • Bruceski
          Bruceski
          October 2, 2017 at 3:05 am | #

          Oh God, I’ve become one of THOSE commenters.

          • Dean
            Dean
            October 2, 2017 at 5:19 am | #

            Thank you for jumping on that primed double entendre. Your sacrifice will be remembered.

            • Bruceski
              Bruceski
              October 2, 2017 at 8:22 pm | #

              Yeah, my reaction wasn’t to making that comment, but this being the third place I pounced on one of those yesterday. I was in some sort of mood, usually I aim more witty in my repartee.

              • Rowen Morland
                Rowen Morland
                October 3, 2017 at 12:19 am | #

                Sometimes simple can be fun and satisfying.

          • Roborat
            Roborat
            October 2, 2017 at 3:44 pm | #

            One of us! One of us!

            • Felix
              Felix
              October 3, 2017 at 4:57 am | #

              more of this! more of this!

      • HeySo
        HeySo
        October 2, 2017 at 9:13 am | #

        As the caption text notes, the box is Walkyverse’s best character.

        • Clif
          Clif
          October 2, 2017 at 4:09 pm | #

          Yeah, that was my interpretation.

  2. AnvilPro
    AnvilPro
    October 2, 2017 at 12:02 am | #

    Damn, Malaya is smarter than she looks

    • MM
      MM
      October 2, 2017 at 12:06 am | #

      Between the exotic pet and the impeccably timed planning, she just might have supervillain potential.

      • Doctor_Who
        Doctor_Who
        October 2, 2017 at 12:07 am | #

        Which is why her team-up with Carla has implications for the whole world.

        Carla’s a brilliant engineer, Malaya is a mastermind, between the two of them the earth may be doomed.

        • Needfuldoer
          Needfuldoer
          October 2, 2017 at 1:38 am | #

          Doomed to at least a few decades of sick pranks.

          • buckybone
            buckybone
            October 6, 2017 at 4:21 am | #

            A few decades in our time…so *maybe* a semester in-comic?

        • Jamie
          Jamie
          October 2, 2017 at 9:37 pm | #

          *holds up two hands like balancing scales*

          Carla/Malaya.

          Current escalating geopolitical situation.

          …yeah. I’m cool with being doomed. Not actually losing anything.

          • Fart Captor
            Fart Captor
            October 2, 2017 at 9:40 pm | #

            shush

            • Fart Captor
              Fart Captor
              October 2, 2017 at 9:41 pm | #

              oh, nm. you meant the world.

    • Clif
      Clif
      October 2, 2017 at 4:10 pm | #

      In fairness that’s a pretty good peace offering.

  3. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    October 2, 2017 at 12:02 am | #

    literally kicking Fuckface around, Malaya?

    also, ours allowed shit like fish, they just don’t want things that’ll run loose and destroy anything

    • Injuryman
      Injuryman
      October 2, 2017 at 12:04 am | #

      Oh come on, the sound effect literally says foot-scootch. She was pushing it with her foot, not kicking it.

      • Yumi
        Yumi
        October 2, 2017 at 12:06 am | #

        Well, to be fair, it initally said, “Kick-scooch,” sooo…

        • Agemegos
          Agemegos
          October 2, 2017 at 12:19 am | #

          English crucially lacks a good word for “shove with a foot”.

          • Needfuldoer
            Needfuldoer
            October 2, 2017 at 1:46 am | #

            That didn’t stop several commenters from freaking out, insisting she was kicking him like a soccer ball. The only comic iguana who gets that treatment is Quincy!

          • Peter
            Peter
            October 2, 2017 at 2:13 am | #

            I suggest “to thisissparta”.

    • Viktoria
      Viktoria
      October 2, 2017 at 12:18 am | #

      The thing is, it’s not just the animal itself. You’ve got potential allergies(yes, even to reptiles), urine and feces, smell, the food, things like space and medical needs, not to mention the liability problems. It’s really just not worth the trouble for the school or for your roommates.

      • Freemage
        Freemage
        October 2, 2017 at 12:33 am | #

        Oh, sure, there’s all sorts of legit reasons for the rules in question. But that’s not what’s being discussed here, and likewise, complaining about the foot-scooch and calling it a ‘kick’ is both missing the point of the character and the arc. In many ways, Malaya IS what Sal pretends to be–an outsider and loner, who actively rejects social norms to the point of being abrasive just to keep others out. Sal does it to keep from being hurt, whereas Malaya, thus far, seems to do it instinctively. So she regards Sal as a poseur.

        Note: These traits make Malaya a pretty awful person to try to be friends with. I suspect Marcie is overlooking a LOT to get a view of Malaya’s ass. And I doubt I’d be able to spend ten minutes in her company without sniping at her, because she operates on that level. But that doesn’t mean she’s wrong about Sal, and it doesn’t mean she’s actively harmful to her beloved pet, which is important to her in a way that people aren’t.

        • PapayaPunkPixie
          PapayaPunkPixie
          October 2, 2017 at 1:36 am | #

          This is such a good analysis and it puts a lot into perspective.

          I can’t tell if I’m more of a Sal or a Malaya. Like Sal I actively cultivate an outward image to feel safe from being hurt and lift my self esteem, when really I’m lonely and very emotionally vulnerable. Like Sal I come from a place of parental neglect and abuse. But like Malaya I genuinely resent rules and authority, and I’m extremely stubborn and obstinate by nature. I hate being told what to do and I’ll break the law (like not wearing a shirt in public) because I’m just pissed that it seems unfair to me.

          I guess it depends on where Malaya is coming from and what makes her like she is. I’d relate to her a lot less if she came from a pretty stable life without much to be idignant over.

          • Minotaur
            Minotaur
            October 2, 2017 at 2:31 am | #

            The analysis of Sal’s behaviour and her reasons for it makes sense, but I don’t really see how that would make her a poser.

            • Freemage
              Freemage
              October 2, 2017 at 11:23 pm | #

              From Malaya’s admittedly skewed point of view, she’s not doing it sincerely–she doesn’t actually WANT to be alone. Rather, she wants people to think she’s too cool to be approached. So she and Malaya share similar appearances, but Malaya’s anti-social behavior is genuine–she dislikes most other human beings, period. So to her, Sal is just fronting.

        • Emperor Norton II
          Emperor Norton II
          October 2, 2017 at 2:09 am | #

          “Malaya IS what Sal pretends to be–an outsider and loner, who actively rejects social norms to the point of being abrasive just to keep others out.”

          I’m pretty much of the opposite opinion: That Malaya is the biggest pretender of the two. By far. Like, she really wants nothing more than to be seen as cool and edgy and an outsider… Except of course, her actual behaviour just betrays her as mainly acting like an immature spoiled brat most of the time. There is no “outsider” or “loner” about her, just someone who wants to have those tags apply to her without having to work for it.

          So she’s acting all abrasive pretty much all the time… And because of that, nobody’s impressed with it. It just annoys them. And so her reputation isn’t that of being a rebel or a loner, but simply that of a jerkface.

          Naturally, Malaya would hate pretty much everyone who gets to have the rebel/loner image when she thinks (so far without much justification) she deserves it more.

          • Dusk Rain
            Dusk Rain
            October 2, 2017 at 2:44 am | #

            Your Majesty’s interpretation is, as always, on point.

            • NelC
              NelC
              October 2, 2017 at 8:08 am | #

              Hey, show some respect! The proper term of address is “Your Imperial Majesty”. ‘Cos he’s an Emperor, see?

              😉

              • Emperor Norton II
                Emperor Norton II
                October 2, 2017 at 1:19 pm | #

                We are an informal emperor. Dusk Rain’s show of respect is acceptable to Us.

              • Dusk Rain
                Dusk Rain
                October 2, 2017 at 1:42 pm | #

                Showing some respect is exactly what I was trying to do? I don’t call address people as terms of nobility just for fun, you know. 😉

          • StClair
            StClair
            October 2, 2017 at 2:52 am | #

            Just so, my lord.

          • Joyous ☿
            Joyous ☿
            October 2, 2017 at 5:05 pm | #

            Damn! Hehehehe

          • Vi
            Vi
            October 2, 2017 at 10:30 pm | #

            This actually is a VERY well-reasoned explanation for Malaya’s big issue with Sal, actually. Beyond Sal not liking her either, Malaya does seem to harp on the “poser” and “flimsy act” and “boring” thing a lot, despite the fact that being caustic doesn’t really make you UNBORING, it just makes you an asshole.

        • DarkoNeko
          DarkoNeko
          October 2, 2017 at 9:32 am | #

          Hilariously, that means Marcie may see part of Sal in Malaya.

  4. butts
    butts
    October 2, 2017 at 12:03 am | #

    hey presto, it’s a Marcie

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      October 2, 2017 at 12:08 am | #

      “Hey Sal, watch me pull a Marcie outta my hat!”

      “Aww, that trick never works.”

      • Cholma
        Cholma
        October 2, 2017 at 12:56 am | #

        *Pulls Amazi-Girl out of the hat*
        “Oh, not again!”

        • Opus the Poet
          Opus the Poet
          October 2, 2017 at 1:17 am | #

          I got to get a new hat.

          How many of the youngsters you think know that whole sequence?

          • Cholma
            Cholma
            October 2, 2017 at 2:16 am | #

            No idea. Is Bullwinkle still on the air anywhere? Maybe Cartoon Network? The adventures of Moose & Squirrel should be required viewing for all citizens! (perhaps a *requirement* for citizenship?) 😀

            • SgtWadeyWilson
              SgtWadeyWilson
              October 2, 2017 at 10:00 am | #

              Moose and Squirrel? I watch Supernatural all the time.

              • 3-I
                3-I
                October 2, 2017 at 8:59 pm | #

                You’ve raised my hopes and dashed them most expertly, sir! Kudos!

                • SgtWadeyWilson
                  SgtWadeyWilson
                  October 2, 2017 at 9:41 pm | #

                  *Bows.*

            • Roborat
              Roborat
              October 2, 2017 at 3:48 pm | #

              Are you kidding. I think it is in the Canadian constitution that CBC has to play it until the heat death of the universe.

          • Deanatay
            Deanatay
            October 2, 2017 at 8:39 am | #

            “Now here’s something we hope you’ll REALLY like…”

        • Chris Phoenix
          Chris Phoenix
          October 2, 2017 at 2:33 am | #

          Wait, I thought Marcie was Amazi-Girl!

          • Doctor_Who
            Doctor_Who
            October 2, 2017 at 8:19 am | #

            The real reason she doesn’t speak? So no one realizes her speech bubbles are blue.

  5. Plasma Mongoose
    Plasma Mongoose
    October 2, 2017 at 12:03 am | #

    A Wild Marcie Appears!

    • Mr. Bulbmin
      Mr. Bulbmin
      October 2, 2017 at 5:06 am | #

      throws Quick Ball

      • SgtWadeyWilson
        SgtWadeyWilson
        October 2, 2017 at 10:06 am | #

        Malaya and Sal blocked the ball!
        Don’t be a thief!

  6. Cheshrin
    Cheshrin
    October 2, 2017 at 12:04 am | #

    Fuckface! 😀

    • butting
      butting
      October 2, 2017 at 12:08 am | #

      Of the Indianapolis Von Clownsticks, thank you.

    • The_L1985
      The_L1985
      October 2, 2017 at 11:58 am | #

      I love that she has a pet whose name is a swear. It just *screams* “I’m out of my parents’ house; time to do shit they wouldn’t like.”

  7. DailyBrad
    DailyBrad
    October 2, 2017 at 12:04 am | #

    Malaya is to herself true. Whether or not that’s an entirely good thing is up to the individual.

  8. Mada
    Mada
    October 2, 2017 at 12:04 am | #

    The best part of this is how several strips ago, one of Billie’s new dorm mates said “I mean we’ll miss fuckface….” when Billie asked if they’d miss Malaya at all.

    • Emperor Norton II
      Emperor Norton II
      October 2, 2017 at 2:11 am | #

      Yep. At the time, it could still be seen as pure sarcasm. But now it’s clear they’ll miss the iguana.

    • Tev
      Tev
      October 2, 2017 at 2:16 am | #

      …and DYW’s all-caps font hid that this was a name. Clever!

    • DarkoNeko
      DarkoNeko
      October 2, 2017 at 9:33 am | #

      and their RA was insisting weirdly on the “no pet” thing, too, so she knew.

  9. Derek
    Derek
    October 2, 2017 at 12:05 am | #

    Did Marcie lose weight or it’s that I haven’t seen her in a while?

    • Dave
      Dave
      October 2, 2017 at 1:10 am | #

      She looks a bit closer to her SP! appearance pre-Girthday now, at least to my eye. Getting her ass thrown by Amazi-Girl must’ve inspired her to hit the campus gym and it’s finally paying dividends 💪🏽💪🏽

      • Pl0x
        Pl0x
        October 2, 2017 at 3:37 am | #

        It was Malaya who got thrown by Amazi-Girl though, not Marcie.

        • Dave
          Dave
          October 4, 2017 at 7:53 am | #

          SHIT I misread that initial comment, DISREGARD

  10. Pablo360
    Pablo360
    October 2, 2017 at 12:06 am | #

    So I’m guessing Lucy also knew the whole time (because how could she not?) but just didn’t say anything because she either was too nice to cause a kerfluffle or didn’t think much of that particular rule. Either way, good to know.

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      October 2, 2017 at 7:41 am | #

      Judging by the “we’ll miss fuckface” comment and the emphasis on no pets, I’d say everyone knew.

  11. Tacos
    Tacos
    October 2, 2017 at 12:06 am | #

    You’re right alt-text. Fuckface is indeed the best character.

  12. timemonkey
    timemonkey
    October 2, 2017 at 12:07 am | #

    SAL! How could you even think of ratting out Fuckface!?

    • Kernanator
      Kernanator
      October 2, 2017 at 12:14 am | #

      Because the crickets he’s fed have a decent chance of escaping into the dorm, that’s why.

      • BBCC
        BBCC
        October 2, 2017 at 12:18 am | #

        And I have a feeling that the dorm will be unamused with both of them, and unlike other cases where she breaks rules (like for drinking or Becky) she has no reason to want to stick her neck out for Malaya.

        • pjeseb
          pjeseb
          October 2, 2017 at 12:25 am | #

          Yeah, quite the opposite in fact.

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          October 2, 2017 at 7:43 am | #

          I suspect nearly everyone in the dorm will like Fuckface better than Malaya.

          Unfortunately, I don’t think you can get someone thrown out of the dorm for having a pet and keep the pet.

      • autogatos
        autogatos
        October 2, 2017 at 12:42 am | #

        I don’t think iguanas eat crickets? My room mate in college had one and always fed it leafy greens. They’re herbivores.

        • Kernanator
          Kernanator
          October 2, 2017 at 1:43 am | #

          I dunno, I’ve only ever had cats and frogs.

          • the final pam
            the final pam
            October 2, 2017 at 2:07 am | #

            Yeah, iguanas are herbivores. No crickets at all.

            But if iguanas were omnivores though, I’d think they’d need something a little bit bigger than a cricket? I mean, even bearded dragons eat ‘pinkies’, so I think an even bigger lizard would need something of that size or bigger.

          • Roborat
            Roborat
            October 2, 2017 at 3:50 pm | #

            I am guessing not at the same time; at least, not for long.

            • Kernanator
              Kernanator
              October 2, 2017 at 5:25 pm | #

              Yeah, Jazz the frog was after Sebastian but before Calvin and Hobbes.

            • autogatos
              autogatos
              October 4, 2017 at 12:41 pm | #

              You’d be surprised! I was sure I was making a mistake when I got fish while already owning cats, and made sure to get as cat-proof a tank as possible…
              Only for my cats to pay absolutely zero attention to the fish forever.

    • Sam
      Sam
      October 2, 2017 at 12:31 am | #

      While our poor iguana friend knows not the rules he breaks, Sal probably actually cares that people would probably fear his food if it escapes or him and that his presence may cause anxiety among people that aren’t fond of reptiles?

      • timemonkey
        timemonkey
        October 2, 2017 at 8:57 am | #

        People fear plants?

        • Sam
          Sam
          October 2, 2017 at 11:46 am | #

          I’ve never had iguanas, I thought they ate insects until after I had already commented and by then it was too late to correct it. They may think he eats insects as well though because Dumbing of Age, not Research Before You Freak Out of Age.

          • onetwoduck
            onetwoduck
            October 2, 2017 at 2:53 pm | #

            Judging by the number of comments that mention this, you’re not the only one.

        • HMRC4EVR
          HMRC4EVR
          October 2, 2017 at 5:05 pm | #

          Just the Krinoid from Dr. Who.

  13. Passchendaele
    Passchendaele
    October 2, 2017 at 12:07 am | #

    Huzzah, the upside-down arrow tradition lives!

  14. Cmd1095
    Cmd1095
    October 2, 2017 at 12:08 am | #

    SAL RESISTED THE IGUANA ON HEAD ATTACK, reality is unraveling, soggies will rule, nobody can resist the iguana, the chronoflux capricitator is overloading, all is lost

    I’m just making shit up now.

    • davidbreslin101
      davidbreslin101
      October 2, 2017 at 3:39 pm | #

      Things fall apart, the centre will not hold. Time to reverse the polarity of the neutron flux and re-insert the drama tag!!!

      • Clif
        Clif
        October 2, 2017 at 3:54 pm | #

        That never works.

    • 3-I
      3-I
      October 2, 2017 at 9:01 pm | #

      Soggies will rule?
      The HELL they will, this is AMERICA!

  15. Viktoria
    Viktoria
    October 2, 2017 at 12:08 am | #

    Panel 3: There are VALID REASONS why pets are banned. Malaya, I get why you’re doing this, but the first time you let crickets loose in the room Sal gets to drop you out the window. If they escape into the rest of the dorm, every other girl on the floor gets to do the same as soon as you get back.

    • autogatos
      autogatos
      October 2, 2017 at 12:45 am | #

      Not that this is the only reason the iguana would be an issue but, they’re herbivores. My roomie in college had one and always fed it leafy greens, no crickets.

      They DO stink like crazy sometimes though. If he gave his greens that had just started to turn then oh my god did that thing’s poop smell bad. Ughhh.

      • BBCC
        BBCC
        October 2, 2017 at 12:58 pm | #

        A small iguana will eat crickets if they find them, but a mature green iguana will not, no.

  16. Pigeon Pollyx
    Pigeon Pollyx
    October 2, 2017 at 12:08 am | #

    people today really investing in short shorts, that’s three so far and they’re all in the roller derby gang

    • Marsh Maryrose
      Marsh Maryrose
      October 2, 2017 at 12:57 am | #

      If you dare wear short shorts…

      Crap, I just now really dated myself, didn’t I?

      • Opus the Poet
        Opus the Poet
        October 2, 2017 at 1:20 am | #

        Not too badly, there was a depilliator creme commercial that used the song.

        • Deanatay
          Deanatay
          October 2, 2017 at 8:45 am | #

          I recall ads running a safety razor(?) along legs that CLEARLY did not need depiliating… or shaving…

      • hof1991
        hof1991
        October 2, 2017 at 9:57 am | #

        Let me finish that….

        Nair for short shorts.

        Rhyming dare and Nair. Only 1987. thought it was older. Sexist and stupid enough to be older. https://youtu.be/Ve04-BcEP94

        • The_L1985
          The_L1985
          October 2, 2017 at 11:59 am | #

          You haven’t seen the horrible Emoji ad for women’s razors recently.

          It actually implies that the hair that naturally grows on women’s legs is a “disaster.” No, it’s a natural process. Some people just like to shave it off.

          (Also, apparently my Walkysona is a redhead. Who knew?)

    • Remmington Steele
      Remmington Steele
      October 2, 2017 at 6:59 pm | #

      hot pants, back in the day.

  17. Ken Dobson
    Ken Dobson
    October 2, 2017 at 12:09 am | #

    This brings back bad memories. I had a 30-gallon aquarium in my dorm room. One weekend when I was visiting my parents (i.e., doing laundry), the bottom broke out catastrophically. Man, did I have to buy a buttload of beer for my roommate and the two guys on first floor beneath our room!

  18. HeatherJean
    HeatherJean
    October 2, 2017 at 12:10 am | #

    So, like, everyone in this comic carries EVERY box upside-down on purpose?

    I can’t recall if there’s ever been a case where the arrow faces up….

    • Architex
      Architex
      October 2, 2017 at 12:44 am | #

      It is a running joke, so yes it is deliberate.

      • Alex Boston
        Alex Boston
        October 2, 2017 at 1:16 am | #

        A smart character in the comic would take this into account and paint the arrow the other way so that things being moved were less likely to be damaged.

        • Mr. Bulbmin
          Mr. Bulbmin
          October 2, 2017 at 5:09 am | #

          That implies that someone exists in this comic that is savvy to the genre, and anticipates the arrows, that would give half a shit.

          I’ll wait.

          • Socks
            Socks
            October 2, 2017 at 5:58 pm | #

            Dorothy? Dorothy is all those things. I mean maybe not savvy to the genre of this comic in particular, but, like, she does watch a lot of cartoons. She is also smart and probably wants her shit carried upright. Presidents don’t carry their shit upside down, probably.

    • Sunny
      Sunny
      October 2, 2017 at 8:26 am | #

      Maybe in the Dumbiverse boxes are labeled “this side down” and that’s what the arrow denotes.

      • Kryss LaBryn
        Kryss LaBryn
        October 2, 2017 at 9:52 am | #

        My husband got really irritated with me for labelling which way something was supposed to go with an arrow pointing up (or rather, towards the side that was supposed to go up). Apparently, without a printed “THIS SIDE UP” alongside of it, that arrow could mean, just, like, anything.

        Never mind that international postal standards are that an arrow on the side of a container indicate which side is supposed to go up. I mean, he’s only dealt with boxes labelled with arrows pointing up on practically a daily basis for, like, decades; how on earth is the poor guy supposed to know what this arrow means?!

        Yeah, my mental response was, “How can someone so smart be so dumb? *eyeroll*”

  19. Fart Captor
    Fart Captor
    October 2, 2017 at 12:10 am | #

    He’s so majestic…

  20. Sarah
    Sarah
    October 2, 2017 at 12:10 am | #

    Yaaay! Begin the making up process!

  21. Reltzik
    Reltzik
    October 2, 2017 at 12:10 am | #

    Well played, Malaya.

    Well Maplayaed.

    • Reltzik
      Reltzik
      October 2, 2017 at 12:11 am | #

      *eyes gravatar*

      …. actually, I really want to see Sarah and Malaya meet now.

      • Dusk Rain
        Dusk Rain
        October 2, 2017 at 2:43 am | #

        That would be pretty interesting. Sarah probably wouldn’t take her shit. I’d like to see that.

        • Jago
          Jago
          October 2, 2017 at 4:25 am | #

          Yeah, same.

        • ValdVin
          ValdVin
          October 2, 2017 at 9:50 am | #

          Me too. If Sarah “gruff, scarred, with a heart of gold” Clinton thinks Malaya is okay, that’d be one thing, but I really wonder how it would happen.

      • DarkoNeko
        DarkoNeko
        October 2, 2017 at 9:35 am | #

        Oh boy, that would be fun.

      • Jamie
        Jamie
        October 2, 2017 at 9:47 pm | #

        But *where*? In the half-bath? In Sarah/Joyce’s room? Hallway showdown? At the showers?

  22. Stephen Bierce
    Stephen Bierce
    October 2, 2017 at 12:12 am | #

    Alas, Monty Hall is dead, so there is no Door #2. Sal has to like it or lump it.

    • butting
      butting
      October 2, 2017 at 12:22 am | #

      There’s still a Door #2, it just has a tasteful casket behind it.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      October 2, 2017 at 1:57 am | #

      What, really? Since when? *checks* Saturday?! Wow.

      Maybe now he can host an hour-long special with Gene Rayburn.

    • Bicycle Bill
      Bicycle Bill
      October 2, 2017 at 12:13 pm | #

      There’s still Door Number Three.

  23. WholesomeGoodBoy
    WholesomeGoodBoy
    October 2, 2017 at 12:12 am | #

    I am very happy that Fuckface gets his own tag

    • Dean
      Dean
      October 2, 2017 at 11:30 pm | #

      Also, the tag is retroactive!

  24. King Daniel
    King Daniel
    October 2, 2017 at 12:12 am | #

    But this is very important

    what species of iguana is Fuckface

    • Marsh Maryrose
      Marsh Maryrose
      October 2, 2017 at 12:42 am | #

      It’s pretty clear he belongs to the species Iguana cartooniensis.

      For starters, he has no visible dewlap. (Which, from what I understand, makes him to a large degree mute among iguanas, making him an appropriate counterpart to Marcie.)

      Also, he has been able to thrive despite being kept in a terrarium smaller than his snout-to-tail length (not to mention that almost half of the terrarium’s volume seems to be taken up by some kind of bonsai tree.)

      Iguana cartooniensis, I’m calling it now.

      • 3oranges
        3oranges
        October 2, 2017 at 12:14 pm | #

        Though just for the record, when an iguana is being submissive they pull it in the dewlap, often enough it wouldn’t show up in a sketch like this. Young iguanas usually look like they don’t have any.

        It’s hard to imagine FF is actually trying to signal a low rank here, but if you imagine he’s somehow so indifferent he doesn’t care to show it, it fits pretty well with the characters.

    • Freemage
      Freemage
      October 2, 2017 at 1:08 am | #

      All, and none, for he is the Ur-iguana, spoken of in hushed tones by his reptilian kin, the greatest of their race, destined to lead them to great destiny, when they will end the reign of the tyrannical mammalians with a fury of blood and fire, and only those marked for their kindness, such as Malaya, shall be spared to live a life of benign servitude in the New Eden. Also, there will be an endless supply of crickets. So it is written, so shall it be.

      • Marsh Maryrose
        Marsh Maryrose
        October 2, 2017 at 1:52 am | #

        There shall be a second Frackface, as has been written in the Tome of the Ages.

  25. tim gueguen
    tim gueguen
    October 2, 2017 at 12:14 am | #

    It will be interesting to see how loud Joyce screams when she first sees him.

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      October 2, 2017 at 1:17 am | #

      She might just think he’s cute.

      • Arianod
        Arianod
        October 2, 2017 at 1:23 am | #

        Then it’ll be interesting to see how loud she squees.

  26. Pat
    Pat
    October 2, 2017 at 12:15 am | #

    It’s too late to convince her not to rat you out, though, considering what she was just yelling.

  27. Adj
    Adj
    October 2, 2017 at 12:15 am | #

    My contempt for Malaya grows.

    ” you don’t conform to my definition of rebellion, therefore you must not be a rebel.”

    • Arianod
      Arianod
      October 2, 2017 at 1:22 am | #

      Good, good. Let the contempt flow through you.

      • MatthewTheLucky
        MatthewTheLucky
        October 2, 2017 at 1:31 am | #

        The power of the shade side is growing.

    • adjudicus
      adjudicus
      October 2, 2017 at 2:23 am | #

      Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Fuckface the wise?

      • Emperor Norton II
        Emperor Norton II
        October 2, 2017 at 2:29 am | #

        I never heard the tragedy of Darth Fuckface the wise.

        What was the tragedy of Darth Fuckface the wise?

        • adjudicus
          adjudicus
          October 2, 2017 at 11:17 am | #

          I thought not. It’s not a story that Sal would tell you. It’s a shortpacked! legend. Darth Fuckface the wise was a sith lord so powerful and so wise he could use the Force to influence the Willis to give absolute power to the one whose head he sat on.

          • davidbreslin101
            davidbreslin101
            October 2, 2017 at 3:45 pm | #

            He taught everything he knew to his apprentice, Robo-Vac, who of course killed him. Ironic, really. He could save the ones he loved from DamnYouWillis, but he couldn’t save himself.

  28. Darkoneko
    Darkoneko
    October 2, 2017 at 12:15 am | #

    Well then.

  29. Keulen
    Keulen
    October 2, 2017 at 12:15 am | #

    I hope this means we’re finally gonna find out if the Marcie/Malaya ship has sailed or sunk.

  30. StClair
    StClair
    October 2, 2017 at 12:17 am | #

    Ahem.
    Marcie owns herself; she is no one else’s to offer or give, in return for peace or anything else.

    • Deathjavu
      Deathjavu
      October 2, 2017 at 1:07 am | #

      Marcie’s face doesn’t look particularly peaceful anyway…

    • Greebs
      Greebs
      October 2, 2017 at 2:11 am | #

      Unless Malaya brought Marcie here under false pretences, or neglected to inform her Sal would be present, it’s likely her agency in this is intact, and the peace offering is an opportunity to communicate where that privilege had previously been withdrawn, rather than her person…

      • ValdVin
        ValdVin
        October 2, 2017 at 11:31 am | #

        Adding to ‘Did Malaya tell Marcie’, is there any way Marcie would already put the.pieces together about Sal being Malaya’s new roomie without being told?

  31. Anywhere
    Anywhere
    October 2, 2017 at 12:17 am | #

    (^_^) I have been waiting for Fuckface to show up since Malaya appeared in the Dumbiverse.

    I thought we might not see him in the dorms at all because even though iguanas are quiet, reptile tanks SMELL, but hey, it’s a comic.

    • Emperor Norton II
      Emperor Norton II
      October 2, 2017 at 2:31 am | #

      [Channeling Waldorf and Statler]
      Yeah, a comic that stinks! WAAAHahahahaha!

  32. BBCC
    BBCC
    October 2, 2017 at 12:18 am | #

    The alt text, of course, refers to Marcie.

    • Arianod
      Arianod
      October 2, 2017 at 1:20 am | #

      No it doesn’t ;P

      • BBCC
        BBCC
        October 2, 2017 at 1:35 am | #

        Im sorry, I see nobody else it could possibly refer to. Malaya and Sal have been here the whole time this scene, and Marcie’s clearly the greatest. 😛

    • Deanatay
      Deanatay
      October 2, 2017 at 8:49 am | #

      Willis’ alt-text is intentionally unclear about the matter. So, maybe!

  33. Mom
    Mom
    October 2, 2017 at 12:18 am | #

    Oh hey Marcie

  34. Marsh Maryrose
    Marsh Maryrose
    October 2, 2017 at 12:20 am | #

    Malaya: *Mic drop*

    Sal: “Rat Malaya out, or reconnect with my best friend? Alas, I am helpless in the grasp of the Magic of Friendship!”

    Either that, or the box opens up to reveal Sal’s parents begging for her forgiveness.

  35. Queen Anthai
    Queen Anthai
    October 2, 2017 at 12:24 am | #

    I call my ex-boyfriend Fuckface so this is gonna get really weird for me.

    • Emperor Norton II
      Emperor Norton II
      October 2, 2017 at 2:34 am | #

      Call him Arseface instead, and never start reading Preacher.

      • Queen Anthai
        Queen Anthai
        October 2, 2017 at 11:59 am | #

        Too late.

        • Emperor Norton II
          Emperor Norton II
          October 2, 2017 at 1:21 pm | #

          Buttf— no, that was ruined twenty years ago.

          Vomitface? do you have any connotations to that?

          • Socks
            Socks
            October 2, 2017 at 6:03 pm | #

            Poopface! Old-school, kindergarten style.

  36. Tarmaniel
    Tarmaniel
    October 2, 2017 at 12:26 am | #

    I’m also wondering how they plan to get away with this without killing it. Don’t iguanas need constant sunlight?

    • Sam
      Sam
      October 2, 2017 at 12:40 am | #

      Setting up the tank somewhere that lets the light from the window reach half the tank will probably be fine? Usually you also add a light above the tank on one side so they get light for 12ish hours of the day.

    • Marsh Maryrose
      Marsh Maryrose
      October 2, 2017 at 1:22 am | #

      They can’t ingest vitamin D3 in the way that humans can, so they need a reasonable amount of UV light to help them manufacture it themselves. They also need heat, but not too much (nor too little).

      Iguanas are really well adapted to their natural environment, which is really unlike the natural environment of, say, Bloomington, Indiana. It is totally possible to keep them happy and healthy in a dorm room in Bloomington, Indiana, but it does require understanding, effort, and proper resource allocation.

      If there is one being on earth that Malaya cares about, it is Fuckface, I have no doubt that Malaya is properly caring for him.

      Which I assume means that she has read the Green Iguana Society’s Habitat Basics section.

    • Queen Anthai
      Queen Anthai
      October 2, 2017 at 12:00 pm | #

      You can just pop a UV light in the cage.

      Source: used to have an iguana.

      • motorfirebox
        motorfirebox
        October 2, 2017 at 12:14 pm | #

        Okay, but “used to”.

        • onetwoduck
          onetwoduck
          October 2, 2017 at 3:21 pm | #

          Yes, on an unrelated note they don’t make very good paratroopers.

          Source: used to have an iguana.

          • Marsh Maryrose
            Marsh Maryrose
            October 2, 2017 at 10:56 pm | #

            Also, they can’t play baseball, they don’t wear sweaters, they’re not good dancers, and they don’t play drums.

            Source: my older brother had an iguana. (Neither the iguana nor my brother were named Barnes.)

  37. Foxhack
    Foxhack
    October 2, 2017 at 12:29 am | #

    … I’m sorry, but I’d still rat her out. Marcie or not, knowing about Malaya having a pet and not saying anything about it could get her kicked out.

    I’d feel sorry for Fuckface. But just him.

    • Freemage
      Freemage
      October 2, 2017 at 1:12 am | #

      That depends on how the rules are written. “Kicking out” rarely happens at non-religious schools (remember, the students/parents are the ones footing the administration’s salaries). More likely, they’d just force Malaya to send Fuckface home.

      • Remmington Steele
        Remmington Steele
        October 2, 2017 at 7:03 pm | #

        Sent down from IU? My god the ignominy!

  38. Synnerman
    Synnerman
    October 2, 2017 at 12:32 am | #

    I play my trap card: EMOTIONAL BLACKMAIL!

    Next: I play: DARK MAGICIAN!!

    no wait…

    • MatthewTheLucky
      MatthewTheLucky
      October 2, 2017 at 1:33 am | #

      I summon Marcie The Forbidden One!

  39. Lapin
    Lapin
    October 2, 2017 at 12:33 am | #

    Fuckface: WORSHIP ME MORTAL
    Marcie: kiss up to me now mortal
    Malaya: I am both of their good sides, so I win

  40. Optimal Optimus
    Optimal Optimus
    October 2, 2017 at 12:35 am | #

    Remind me again, why is Marcie mad at Sal?

    • the final pam
      the final pam
      October 2, 2017 at 12:42 am | #

      I want to say Marcie was originally mad at Sal for picking fights with Malaya and then the later fight with Amazigirl at Robin’s rally really pushed it over the edge.

    • Sam
      Sam
      October 2, 2017 at 12:42 am | #

      Fighting with AG against dudes at Marcie’s job as security despite Marcie not wanting her to fight.

    • Nico
      Nico
      October 2, 2017 at 12:52 am | #

      I think it’s because Sal + AG got into a fight at the Robin DeSanto rally, which Marcie was working security at. Essentially, Sal made Marcie’s job harder, and may have even put it in jeopardy.

      Strips: http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/04-it-all-returns/beef/ + http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-7/01-glower-vacuum/snap/ + http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-7/01-glower-vacuum/waitin/

  41. Kat
    Kat
    October 2, 2017 at 12:35 am | #

    That’s not a very good iguana cage, Malaya

  42. AY
    AY
    October 2, 2017 at 12:41 am | #

    yes, finally, He Has Arrived

    • AY
      AY
      October 2, 2017 at 12:41 am | #

      Oh, I’m Joyce now! When did we shuffle?

  43. Mr. Random
    Mr. Random
    October 2, 2017 at 12:55 am | #

    Best friend for a roommate.
    Decent buffer.
    But I’m sure she’ll get tired of mediating real fast.

  44. BP
    BP
    October 2, 2017 at 12:57 am | #

    Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

    That is all.

  45. DinaWho
    DinaWho
    October 2, 2017 at 12:57 am | #

    Fuckface is back on Malaya’s head. All is right with the world.

    • DinaWho
      DinaWho
      October 2, 2017 at 12:31 pm | #

      Also Malaya’s genuine smile when she’s talking about Fuckface in panel one is kind of adorable.

      Don’t let Malaya find out I called her adorable

      • Joey245
        Joey245
        October 2, 2017 at 10:18 pm | #

        I entirely agree about the smile.

  46. Ashley
    Ashley
    October 2, 2017 at 12:57 am | #

    Malaya is an evil genius.
    Or at least knows about leverage.

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      October 2, 2017 at 1:14 am | #

      I think both “evil” and “genius” is a bit too much.

      But she is a bit of a jerk who manage to stay one step ahead of Sal at every turn, which doesn’t say anything TOO flattering about Sal’s level of geniusness.

      • CJ
        CJ
        October 2, 2017 at 3:12 am | #

        Sal did the stupidity of not reading the papers on her new roommate, so she didn’t have time to plan ahead. Malaya did, and seems to,have spent a lot of time planning.

        • Jhon
          Jhon
          October 2, 2017 at 11:49 am | #

          So the lack of AC in Read turns out to be a plus point.
          Well done, Malaya.

          • Tev
            Tev
            October 2, 2017 at 5:10 pm | #

            I wouldn’t be surprised if this was part of the reason Malaya wanted to switch.

      • Socks
        Socks
        October 2, 2017 at 6:05 pm | #

        Decently competent asshole, is how I’d put it, if I had to pay Malaya a compliment for some reason. Sarah is the evil genius on this floor anyway.

  47. Bagge
    Bagge
    October 2, 2017 at 12:59 am | #

    Malaya kinda sucks at peace talks, but her offering is high quality.

    And of course, she has the coolest Iguana ever!

  48. Lingo
    Lingo
    October 2, 2017 at 1:02 am | #

    Yes, the best character has finally arrived, 7 years in — HOLY CRAP, has it really been 7 years?!?

    • Lingo
      Lingo
      October 2, 2017 at 1:03 am | #

      Does that mean we can expect Singularikitty in about 2024?

      • Lingo
        Lingo
        October 2, 2017 at 1:05 am | #

        Or perhaps Snkrs?

        • Dellaran
          Dellaran
          October 2, 2017 at 2:05 am | #

          Snkrs the Svntnth, by then.

        • Dusk Rain
          Dusk Rain
          October 2, 2017 at 2:47 am | #

          Snkrs! Having read SP, I understand his/her/their importance and…fluffness now!

    • Emperor Norton II
      Emperor Norton II
      October 2, 2017 at 2:40 am | #

      Since when can any character top Blowjob Cat?

      • Leon
        Leon
        October 2, 2017 at 6:18 am | #

        Since Fudgeface.

        • Deanatay
          Deanatay
          October 2, 2017 at 8:55 am | #

          It’s Okay, Leon. It’s part of a name, so it’s safe to say.

          Say it with me now: FUCKface.

          FUCK
          FACE

  49. Arianod
    Arianod
    October 2, 2017 at 1:19 am | #

    Aw yiss, Fuckface.

  50. Alex Boston
    Alex Boston
    October 2, 2017 at 1:20 am | #

    So did Mary overheard Sal yell about the Iguana? Because Mary has no reason not to rat Malaya out.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      October 2, 2017 at 2:04 am | #

      If she did, she’ll probably keep it under her hat for a special occasion.

      • Dusk Rain
        Dusk Rain
        October 2, 2017 at 2:53 am | #

        Gotta be a top hat or something if she’s keeping an iguana under it.

        • Leon
          Leon
          October 2, 2017 at 6:18 am | #

          I hope Fudgeface poops on Marys’ head.

          • Dusk Rain
            Dusk Rain
            October 2, 2017 at 1:48 pm | #

            There are a few different heads I hope he poops on.

  51. ETP
    ETP
    October 2, 2017 at 1:20 am | #

    What’s the odds there’s another reptile in box #2….?

    • Marsh Maryrose
      Marsh Maryrose
      October 2, 2017 at 1:46 am | #

      We should ask Marilyn Vos Savant about that.

    • ValdVin
      ValdVin
      October 2, 2017 at 8:38 am | #

      Nah, if we learned anything from the late Monty Hall it’s that we should turn down that box and take whatever’s in box #3!

    • DarkoNeko
      DarkoNeko
      October 2, 2017 at 9:41 am | #

      it’s probably food and/or the sunlight/temperature regulation top of the vivarium

  52. newllend(henryvolt)
    newllend(henryvolt)
    October 2, 2017 at 1:32 am | #

    If he’s fuckface Where’s Chewy ?

  53. newllend(henryvolt)
    newllend(henryvolt)
    October 2, 2017 at 1:40 am | #

    You know when a friend’s rightfully mad at me to the point they’re not talking to me I would just let them be mad at me and give them space to the point they’re ready to be on speaking terms again no madder how long it would take…is that the right way to deal with that issue or is that not taking initiative ?

    • AKP
      AKP
      October 2, 2017 at 2:07 am | #

      In my experience it’s best to ask them whether they want to be left alone, along with a conciliatory/apologetic gesture. If they say yes, leave it alone, if they say no, pay attention to what their needs are and be respectful of those while attempting to continue or repair your friendship.

      • newllend(henryvolt)
        newllend(henryvolt)
        October 2, 2017 at 3:05 am | #

        Thanks for the advice now I got to make some calls.

  54. abacuswizard
    abacuswizard
    October 2, 2017 at 2:03 am | #

    Already I am considering the possibilities for Fuckface/Quincy crossover iguanafic.

  55. BenRG
    BenRG
    October 2, 2017 at 2:06 am | #

    I’ve got the most horrible feeling from Marcie’s expression that there is literally nothing about her relationship with Malaya that hasn’t turned out to be abusive in some way.

    • the final pam
      the final pam
      October 2, 2017 at 2:10 am | #

      That’s.. quite a leap.

    • Dusk Rain
      Dusk Rain
      October 2, 2017 at 2:48 am | #

      I don’t like Malaya either but I think Marcie’s expression has more to do with being angry at Sal.

    • Emily
      Emily
      October 2, 2017 at 7:30 am | #

      From what we’ve seen Marcie is like the only person Malaya isn’t a toxic asshole towards.

  56. Greebs
    Greebs
    October 2, 2017 at 2:16 am | #

    Wow Malaya, those are some Short Shorts…

    Marcie: …

    Shit, I didn’t think this gag through at all. What’s the ASL for ‘Hold my beer’…?

    • Pablo360
      Pablo360
      October 2, 2017 at 12:54 pm | #

      More importantly, how does one transliterate ASL without resorting to ASCII art?

  57. Dusk Rain
    Dusk Rain
    October 2, 2017 at 2:42 am | #

    I just…wow. It’s so condescending of Malaya to keep going “oh clearly you are purposefully rebelling, and clearly you are failing at it because you’re not ‘rebelling’ in the exact way I would approve of.” Maybe it’s just hitting home for me because like Sal I’m outside mainstream society in several ways, and none of them is just because I want to “piss people off” or “rebel.” I’m either trying to be my authentic self and live my life, or I’m acting this way to deal with trauma and shit. So yeah. No rebellion here, sorry. Not sure if I’m just projecting on Sal, but I feel for her.

    On the bright side, it’s good to see Marcie again. I hope she’ll be able to forgive Sal.

    And yeah, Fuckface is cute sitting on top of her head. Welcome to the Dumbiverse Fuckface. Enjoy your stay.

    • CJ
      CJ
      October 2, 2017 at 3:17 am | #

      She sounds somewhat like the principal of Moperville North ranting about rebel without a cause…

      • Dusk Rain
        Dusk Rain
        October 2, 2017 at 1:51 pm | #

        I can’t believe I had to look up what Moperville is from. I love EGS.

    • APersonAmI
      APersonAmI
      October 2, 2017 at 6:37 am | #

      Yeah, this. Insulting Sal by claiming that she is trying to be something she has never claimed to be, and then holding up her perception that she has failed in Malaya’s eyes is mean and stupid.

      Fuckface is indeed adorable.

      • Dusk Rain
        Dusk Rain
        October 2, 2017 at 1:52 pm | #

        YES. Sal never claimed to be a rebel or be the super cool motorcycle chick and in fact gets annoyed when other people force their narratives on her.

  58. darkgloomie
    darkgloomie
    October 2, 2017 at 2:49 am | #

    eagerly awaiting the moment fuckface is added to the random avatar pool

    • StClair
      StClair
      October 2, 2017 at 2:56 am | #

      The day after that, it’ll just be iguanas all the way down.

    • Deanatay
      Deanatay
      October 2, 2017 at 8:58 am | #

      Personally, I’m stunned no one has simply claimed Fuckface as their Gravatar yet. I’m personally attached to my waffle, but it’s not hard to do.

      • Ryek Hvek
        Ryek Hvek
        October 2, 2017 at 4:07 pm | #

        Done, and done.

  59. Danni
    Danni
    October 2, 2017 at 3:01 am | #

    id still rat malaya out

  60. OnyxIdol
    OnyxIdol
    October 2, 2017 at 3:09 am | #

    So I’m guessing the day anyone in this comic carries a box with the arrow pointing up will be the day the world ends.

  61. CJ
    CJ
    October 2, 2017 at 3:19 am | #

    Somehow even mentioning to rat out on someone seems out-of-character for Sal.

    • BenRG
      BenRG
      October 2, 2017 at 4:50 am | #

      Sal is less of a rebel than people think. She’s never claimed to be one; everyone else just makes the assumption from her behaviour and social isolation. However, they’re wrong and, frankly, she’s less easy-going about breaking the rules than people think. She’s seen the consequences of being a rule-breaker up close and she doesn’t want anyone else to suffer the consequences the way she has.

      Being of an extremely independent and self-contained nature is not the same as being a rebel. Sal does not need to flip a finger to authority to be cool; she manages it anyway.

      So, yeah, she feels no burden to ‘stick it to the man’ in any way and, if she was satisfied that Malaya was a serious problem, she wouldn’t hesitate to report her to the authorities.

      • Eldritch Gentleman
        Eldritch Gentleman
        October 2, 2017 at 6:07 am | #

        Sal is cool by herself while Malaya feels the need to prove her cool to others.

      • BBCC
        BBCC
        October 2, 2017 at 2:24 pm | #

        That’s not completely true – she’s 100% down to rebel against what she sees as silly or oppressive rules and she is a rebel in that sense, but she’s not a ‘all rules are evil’ type rebel. I doubt she has problems with, like, rules against murder.

        • ValdVin
          ValdVin
          October 2, 2017 at 3:24 pm | #

          Sal knows some rules don’t make sense and ignores them as such. She has an “innate desire to rebel.against any and all authority”, and often does so when it’s a ‘screw the rules I’m doing what’s right’ moment.

          http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/04-walking-with-dina/nextdoor/

          • BBCC
            BBCC
            October 2, 2017 at 6:05 pm | #

            Exactly! Case in point, when she let Becky move in or for underage drinking.

    • CJ
      CJ
      October 2, 2017 at 7:46 am | #

      What I mean is: her experience with authority is that they give you shit. She wouldn’t involve authorities if it can be helped any other way.

      • BenRG
        BenRG
        October 2, 2017 at 7:48 am | #

        She’s said that she doesn’t believe in them but I think that she believes in people putting themselves in danger even less.

  62. Eldritch Gentleman
    Eldritch Gentleman
    October 2, 2017 at 3:56 am | #

    And Malaya is instantly proved smarter than Mary.

    • DarkoNeko
      DarkoNeko
      October 2, 2017 at 9:44 am | #

      The bar’s pretty low

      • Eldritch Gentleman
        Eldritch Gentleman
        October 2, 2017 at 10:00 am | #

        You’ve got to start somewhere and take baby steps

  63. Agemegos
    Agemegos
    October 2, 2017 at 4:33 am | #

    Is it okay of Malaya to treat Marcie, Marcie’s presence, or Marcie’s time and attention as a gift that she can give, to use marcie as a bargaining chip in her negotiations with Sal?

    • BenRG
      BenRG
      October 2, 2017 at 4:51 am | #

      No, it isn’t.

      On the other hand, if she was the one who talked Marcie into reaching out to Sal, then it says things about Malaya that would need us all to reconsider what we think we know about her character.

      • Eldritch Gentleman
        Eldritch Gentleman
        October 2, 2017 at 5:26 am | #

        It feels a bit like “So I talked her out of being angry at your stupid ass, you owe me.”

        • Josh Spicer
          Josh Spicer
          October 2, 2017 at 8:10 am | #

          Which seems like a shitty thing to bargain.

  64. Jack Faire
    Jack Faire
    October 2, 2017 at 6:17 am | #

    *face palm* Malaya being a rebel doesn’t mean you mindlessly break every single rule there is. It means you live by your own rules. Sometimes those will will match up with establishment rules. One of my personal rules “Don’t get kicked out of places I live” Kind of willing to bet that Sal’s got the same rule.

  65. Arioch
    Arioch
    October 2, 2017 at 6:50 am | #

    I swear sometimes the only things I like about Malaya are Fuckface and that Marcie and Carla like her. Though it makes me question Marcie and Carla’s tastes in people that they like her.
    I think part of why Sal gets so annoyed with Malaya is that she was Malaya when she was like like 11. That was when she was a rebel just to be a rebel. Now, she’s herself. She understands that you don’t shit where you eat and you don’t break every rule just because it is a rule. Some of those rules exist so that we can all still have nice things – like places to sleep.
    Also, I am in agreement with those of you who have pointed out that Malaya is a poseur and angry because she recognizes that Sal is an actual outsider. But, also, Sal was never really trying to be one. That is who she has always been because she is Linda Walkerton’s little girl who just doesn’t look white enough and never could be the daughter she wanted. She’s an outsider because Billie is the unofficial third Walkerton twin. And, like almost all outsiders, it’s not a choice. It just is.

  66. Cerberus
    Cerberus
    October 2, 2017 at 8:38 am | #

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    Malaya kinda fascinates me.

    Like on the surface, she’s kinda awful a lot. Hard to please, frequent to complain, ready to fight with folks. In real life she’d be the sort of person it is very difficult to be friends with. But that feels like it’s selling her short to stop there.

    Like, on the flip-side, she’s loyal and tries hard for folks she feels are showing her respect despite her Malaya-ness and more interestingly, she seems to be the rare sort of person who really doesn’t care what others think of her.

    Like, she acknowledges it and lets it color how she interacts both positively and negatively, but so often she seems to operate in her own world and people thinking negatively of her seem to just get added to her list of “fuckers” and not really worried about beyond that point.

    And that’s kinda unique in a character. Like, we see characters who want to be that. Both Sal and Carla have longed to be “beyond caring” about the feelings of others thanks to their histories of abuse and suffering bigotry, but we also see how things deeply affect them. A nasty comment, someone loathing them affects them as much as they wished it didn’t.

    But Malaya seems to operate on a level where she’s able to intellectualize that as someone else’s shit and more or less operate on her own level seemingly unaffected by it and that’s… powerful and intriguing. Especially for me who is much more in the Carla camp than the Malaya camp on this.

    And it creates this sort of novel sort of way of interacting with folks. Like, she’s definitely holding on to a grudge with Sal and not at all planning on making this easy for her, but it also feels like if Sal loathed her for all her days, that Malaya wouldn’t really be bent out of shape about it. And the whole dynamic becomes something novel and intriguing.

    Panel 1: And we see that here. Malaya has just been physically accosted… again, by the person she will be sharing space with. For anyone else, this would be a major worrying thing. Certainly the idea of sharing space with Malaya is awful for Sal and affects her deeply. That’s the context.

    And here Malaya is off in her own world as if that didn’t even happen. She has her iguana. She likes her iguana. Her iguana is on her head. So she expresses that happiness as if that context wasn’t even a thing, because it feels like that context doesn’t really get through beyond the point of “this person has a problem with me, that’s a problem with them, whatever.”

    And I think it explains a lot about her conflict with Sal and her interpretation of Sal as a poser. Like, Sal in a lot of ways is very much a rebel loner with an anti-authoritarian streak. But Malaya isn’t viewing her under that lens. She’s viewing her by the cultural idea of the rebel loner, the one who doesn’t even care what people think and does her own thing.

    And by that common depiction, Sal is not that. She cares deeply what others think. She’s haunted by it at times. It drives her alienation from others. But to Malaya, all she sees is Sal doesn’t live up to this cultural idea of “loner” that she finds so easy to fulfill herself.

    And so to Malaya, Sal is “posing” at loner-dom by being what so often leads folks to live anti-authoritarian loner lives rather than the cultural depiction.

    • Falcon
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      October 2, 2017 at 2:11 pm | #

      We’re quick to judge when we have strong preconceived ideas. This isn’t necessarily a bad thing. We need a lot of preconceived ideas to get anything done in an efficient manner. But Malaya applies her preconceived ideas of what people should be and what their motives are far too readily. She instantly judges people on an individual basis based on her ideas of what people as groups should be, and that’s more than surface awfulness. That Malaya happens to be on the right side of political history doesn’t save her from this awfulness much deeper than a veneer.

      But yes, the general demeanor of not needing someone to be okay yourself is a powerful form of psychological attractiveness. Most people can pull if off as an act when needed, but this trait seems inherent to Malaya’s outlook. It shows in both her personal psychological health (perhaps only Jacob is more stable than her, and I have a feeling there’s more to Jacob than we’ve seen so far). It also shows in how inconsiderate she is and how she’s fine with the consequences of her inconsiderateness.

    • chris73
      chris73
      October 2, 2017 at 2:34 pm | #

      Interestingly I see Sal as starting to shake off her self-imposed role as rebel loner and is beginning to maybe want to fit in a bit more, not sure why but maybe the grades shes receiving is starting to change how she views herself

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      October 2, 2017 at 4:15 pm | #

      Hm. I wonder if Carla has similar view of Malaya. She likes her well enough, perhaps not despite but because of her Malayaness.

    • BigDogLittleCat
      BigDogLittleCat
      October 2, 2017 at 8:49 pm | #

      Malaya sounds almost like a psychopath.

  67. Cerberus
    Cerberus
    October 2, 2017 at 8:49 am | #

    Panel 2: And you get the feel that this was a huge part of the desire to move. That that location was unhealthy for her lizard that she finds it a lot easier to relate to than people.

    And I wonder if this is part of what lead her to so loathe the cinnamon roll that is Lucy. That Lucy’s inquisitiveness and tendency to be a bit more of a rule-follower meant Lucy made an initial comment about Fuckface that birthed the weird one-sided feud they ended up having.

    Panel 3: As I noted before, Malaya seems to view “rebeldom” as its cultural depiction rather than its actual reality, because to her that cultural depiction is a natural state she finds it very easy to occupy and she’s never really been able to internalize other people’s attitudes towards her enough to understand the reality other marginalized people occupy.

    And this really hammers that home. To Malaya, “rebeldom” is fighting against all rules for the sake of them being rules that hamper her natural flow.

    To Sal and others, “rebeldom” is recognizing the oppression inherent in some “laws” and “natural orders” and fighting those because they are oppressive and hurt folks, not because of a weird anti-rule fetish.

    And so of course she feels that Sal is “betraying” “rebeldom” by caring about a rule. Because she fundamentally misunderstands Sal’s relationship with rules in the first place.

    Panel 5: This moment is so sad. This is the first time Sal and Marcie have been face to face since the big fight and Marcie demanding space and you see in their body language their current states.

    Marcie is still upset, her face set like “I really don’t want to deal with this” while Sal’s whole upper body flags, her shoulders drooping in nervousness surrounding this encounter.

    Which makes sense. Sal hurt Marcie their last interactions and feels intensely bad about that and wants to fix that new rift with her most important friend and Marcie still feels hurt that Sal treated a job that was very important to her survival very dismissively and put her in a more rough economic situation.

    And I really hope these two can talk it out and repair things.

    • 3oranges
      3oranges
      October 2, 2017 at 8:03 pm | #

      Considering how Malaya feels about Sal, but isn’t even hinting at regret for the move, it sure seems like Malaya hated Lucy instantly.

  68. Deanatay
    Deanatay
    October 2, 2017 at 9:09 am | #

    I now want to see Malaya wearing Dina’s hat.

    And Dina wearing Fuckface.

    • Jhon
      Jhon
      October 2, 2017 at 11:46 am | #

      That would be 2 nifty gravatars!

  69. Bunivasal
    Bunivasal
    October 2, 2017 at 11:17 am | #

    “I don’t like you at all for good reason. Your pet is an inconvenient burden, and I’ll get in trouble for helping you conceal it. My rebel act is self-serving, and you are not me, stop trying to manipulate my branding. Ttyn, SAL.”

  70. Geoff
    Geoff
    October 2, 2017 at 11:30 am | #

    Is it wrong that Malaya’s been pretty much my favorite character since she was introduced in _Shortpacked!_?

    Smiley Malaya is best Malaya.

  71. Tenchan
    Tenchan
    October 2, 2017 at 12:55 pm | #

    Poor Marcie. She’s clearly the dogged nice girl. 🙁

  72. Pablo360
    Pablo360
    October 2, 2017 at 12:55 pm | #

    Dammit did Yotomoe die of shock again

    • King Daniel
      King Daniel
      October 2, 2017 at 11:48 pm | #

      Nah, there isn’t any prominent Malaya-butt in today’s strip.

  73. Pablo360
    Pablo360
    October 2, 2017 at 2:57 pm | #

    So did anyone else notice that the next chapter already exists in the drop-down menu?

    • King Daniel
      King Daniel
      October 2, 2017 at 4:40 pm | #

      Previews of future chapter titles in the archive are pretty common. Occasionally, the title is changed for some reason (I think the last example was It All Returns, which to my memory was originally billed in the archive as “Returns to Nothing” before being changed a little prior to the chapter release).

    • Spencer
      Spencer
      October 2, 2017 at 9:55 pm | #

      Given that the next chapter is named after a song by a gay singer, I’m guessing Ethan and Danny hook up.

      Finally.

  74. ValdVin
    ValdVin
    October 2, 2017 at 3:32 pm | #

    This Is one of the very few comics featuring Malaya this chapter in which the camera doesn’t give a butt angle. But doesn’t Marcie’s positioning in the last panel means she’s been taking in the view?

  75. Remmington Steele
    Remmington Steele
    October 2, 2017 at 6:53 pm | #

    Hey, favourite people, stay safe out there.

  76. Remmington Steele
    Remmington Steele
    October 2, 2017 at 6:55 pm | #

    Marcie, dear, that box is the wrong way up.

  77. JBento
    JBento
    October 2, 2017 at 7:04 pm | #

    Hey, just heard about Vegas, hope everyone here and everyone you love is safe.

    In related news, your Republicans are trying to pass a bill that would make gun laws laxer, so time to call your representatives again, I guess? At this point, they should be on speed dial.

  78. JessWitt
    JessWitt
    October 2, 2017 at 8:37 pm | #

    Malaya the Lizard Queen!

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