I will be at San Diego Comic-Con! I’ll have Dumbing of Age posters, pin-up postcards, and Shortpacked! books. If you’re in the webcomics area, I’m not far away!
Because the world don’t move to the beat of just one drum.
Whatchu talkin’ ’bout, Gangler? ;p
Gangler means that not just one person controls the world.
It takes diff’rent strokes to move the world.
(^u^)/*\(^u^) High fives!
They’re ALL MOMS in the FUTURE
(except the ones that aren’t)
On the subject of those female characters who are not moms in the future:
For every person on earth, every single person who has contributed to their genetic makeup down to their great-great-great-great-great-etc. grandparents has had at least one child, and yet somehow a significant percentage of the population bucks the trend and remains single. What’s more, the human race depends on this constant bucking of the trend to survive (avoiding extermination via overpopulation). This means that in reproduction, there must be some process of selectivity – this applies for many different creatures as well as humans. However, the need to control overpopulation and the need to develop more positive evolutionary attributes are almost entirely exclusive (if a group is overpopulated, it does not need positive evolutionary traits other than selective breeding to continue to survive. If survival can only be assured through positive evolutionary traits, the population is likely sufficiently low that selective breeding is detrimental). Consequently, people get more picky, but tending to have no consistent underlying rationale.
Please note that most of the paragraph above is pseudo-science with ridiculous generalisations, immediately apparent logical flaws, and, to the best of my knowledge, minimal conformity to reliable historical facts.
Anyway, I realise this had nothing to do with what you meant, but I had the thought and felt the urge to express it, regardless.
Not to mention there are certain diseases and illnesses that nature don’t really WANT to pass on, thus expressed by difficulty and outright inability to have children. If you include this sort of person into your model, it turns out that, for many people, NOT having children is their way of contributing to the future.
In english, please…
Well there goes my 3rd favorite webcomic couple…
I knew that it wouldn’t last forever, but less than one week?
I don’t think they’re breaking up, it’s just a little kerfuffle.
A kerfuffle? This is at the very least a quagmire.
Why are you two talking about pokemons?
Pseudo-panel 3 is clearly a game of ‘Name that Pokemon!’
If it was a Pokemon, it would be Quagsire.
The tastiest of nipples.
Caramel flavored, of course.
Caramel is after all the best flavour.
What about peppermint?
Good, but not best.
Toffee and marshmallow swirl.
Or straight up honey? It tells you that nature loves you and wants you to be happy.
So it’s like the opposite of bears?
And bears eat honey…
my mind is blown.
No, thass what Franklin said bout beer and God. So love God and drink beer, drink beer and doubt God, drink beer and wear pajama jeans, or drink enough beer and take your pajama jeans off while in the mall . . .
Honey, my ass. Red meat and lots of it, that’s the ticket.
^That is the best possible post.
Yeah, way to exit gracefully, Walky!
Ugh…(I feel dirty)… Aaaaaand Joe from out of nowhere for the rebound!
Oh please no. NO NO NO NO. Anyone but him for the rebound
Definitely not going to happen. Dorothy is about to have the “I’m done with relationships!” episode.
A relationship as casual as theirs does not merit a rebound – super-especially not with someone you’ve known for years.
Technically wasn’t Walky the rebound after Danny?
And thus Mike’s assholery is revealed: by buying Walky pajama jeans, he broke up his relationship!
Man, he is an evil genius.
So that is why Mike is in college. For the moms… And the nickels.
BTW does that mean that Mike is a big spender or a money maker?
And this actually reinforces the theory that Mike’s assholery is actually for the greater good more often than not.
Although if she did start kissing his nipples he might take off the pajama pants. XD
I’m just picturing Walky referring to the act as “tasting my chicken nuggets” or…perhaps that’s something…more southern…OH GOD THE MENTAL IMAGES
PLEASE STOP YOURE GETTING PEOPLE STARTED!!!!!!!!!
Mmmm southern friend chicken …
Oh, that wasn’t what you meant?
Mmmm southern fried chicken …
Goddamn stupid typos. Sorry for almost-identical double-post.
Dorothy is a skank anyway. Watch her fall in love with the next nerd she comes up with while “studying to go to Yale”.
Ouch, that post seems all the more mean-spirited with that Gravatar you have.
Seems pretty mean-spirited anyway. Jeez, hit a bit close to home or something?
Nah, Krow’s just telling it like it is. Although I think the term ‘skank’ is misapplied. ‘Arrogant, self-absorbed butthole’ is more like it. It took Mike embarrassing her to get her to treat Walky with a modicum of respect. Mike’s not going to be around forever; there’re kittens to stomp, after all.
As someone who wears black pajama pants everywhere (save for times where I wear a suit), I feel that Dorothy needs to lighten up and that other people do not need to conform with her standards of attire.
Yes, but you make up for that with an awesome hat. Does Walky have an awesome hat? I don’t think so.
For a moment before I read the name, I thought you were talking about the Dina gravatar. Which is a similarly awesome hat, though more cute than purdy.
Walky needs to sport something like a beret, newsboy cap, trilby or even a fez to add a little class to his slacker look.
Fezzes are cool.
Also stetsons and bowties.
Pajama jeans, butt-taco shirt and fez. The don’t-give-a-shit trifecta.
Bandana. Wouldn’t add class, but…
Linkara also has his magic gun (which normally works save for the time being). Who’s going to argue fashion with a guy with a nifty hat and magic gun?
Others don’t need to conform only the one she is making out with, as she pointed out last strip.
I smell a new gravatar.
I see a new gravatar.
Joe can taste a new gravatar.
With his penis.
I am fairly certain that penises lack the sense of taste, touch yes but not taste.
You just need to train it.
So there is are books out there about teaching your willy how to see, hear, smell or taste?
I wonder if amazon.com has any in stock.
Ah, so that’s what synesthesia is for.
Yes begbert, synesthesia is all about giving your penis super powers.
You mean your’s doesn’t…
You may want to see a doctor.
Speaking of Gravatars, could you tell me whose yours is?
I smell dookie.
Ah, one of the kids needs a diaper change. That explains it.
I smell it too, but my roommate’s cats just used the litterbox.
Man, I really expected this to last at least a LITTLE longer. Poor Walky. We don’t even know if he got to touch the boobies.
Also, Joe clearly approves of Walky’s nipples.
Poor Walky? He’s the one who ended it and they were together for less than a week. Clearly neither was that attached if what destroyed it was PAJAMA JEANS.
Not that I’m super sympathetic towards Dorothy or anything. Honestly this was what it was a brief but ultimately meaningless college fling.
Your assuming this isn’t a universe where they end up together.
Of course it isn’t. Joyce and Dorothy are CLEARLY the OTP in this series. ;p
I thought it was Sal + Billie.
If it hadn’t been the PJ’s, it would have been something else soon enough.
Just a thought here, but basically, what Walky is saying isn’t that he’s choosing pajama jeans over makeouts. Instead, he’s finding it incredibly unappealing that Dorothy is basically acting like a “mom” in his perspective. He doesn’t want someone ordering him around and telling him what to do or what to enjoy. If she’s going to do that, then he’s not even going to risk being around when it’s something bigger.
Remember, everybody. Walky’s not stupid; he’s actually incredibly perceptive and intelligent. He’s upset because he feels like Dorothy is breaking the arrangement, and he doesn’t like that she seems to want to change him to suit her.
He’s also incredibly childish, and seems to want to have the benefits of childhood AND some of adulthood (makeouts) without the disadvantages of either (like people, whether parents or teachers or bosses, telling you you can’t do things).
So… College, then.
Don’t forget the caramel abs.
Oh those caramel abs…
Omg with that avatar
I WANT THAT PICTURE!
They don’t exist on Mars, though. They need ours.
Now Joyce can be the rebound nibble.
Yeah, I’m with Dorothy on this issue…
are you crazy, pajama jeans are like the pinnacle of human fashion and ingenuity, seriously we are at the peak-honestly, you can phone earth and he’ll respond being all like- ya you’re right you aint gonna do better than pajama jeans
I though pajama suits were the pinnacle of human fashion and ingenuity. 2 and 3 piece Pajama suits are like conforming and flipping off the man in one fell, comfortable swoop.
This reminds me, I heard that the Arrested Development movie is supposed to start filming soon.
And the award for most random “This reminds me” goes to ThoDuSt for their Dumbing of Age Nipple Licking to Arrested Development Movie linking.
Considering that Walky (in this strip) is a blatant case of it, no, it’s not random at all.
I can see both sides of the argument, but Dorothy leaving him is crap. He fails to make one concession and that’s the end of it? She’s looking like a bit of a control freak.
But he walked away from her! Honestly I feel like she was being a bit controlling too but Walky was the one who ended things. She basically said, “It’s me or the pants!” and he said, “Pants!” So if anyone left anyone Walky left Dorothy.
I just feel like if you’re going to be controlling in the first place…there are better reasons, at least. But give a guy an ultimatum over pajama jeans? I just don’t get it.
I don’t think it’s even just about pants, its the fact that someone is standing in the way of him being himself and being happy about it.
Regardless of who left whom, they’re bickering about something largely inane and nonsensical. She could’ve put it better than just “no, stop that”, and he could’ve taken it better than “well piss off, then!”.
In the end, it’s a childish spat. Either one of them could easily come to realize later that it’s a stupid thing to break up over, and if not? Neither seems entirely broken up over the break up.
Also, while I think Joe’s just amused at Walky’s antics, a part of my brain immediately assumed that his expression could just as easily be taken as “that looks tasty” rather than a general “oh really” reaction.
That was totally insane and nonsensical in the sense that Dorothy went from zero to bitch in two seconds. There were many ways she could have told Walky that “wearing pajama jeans in public is something I’m not comfortable with.” Starting with “What the hell are those?” and continuing with threats of “I’ll stop making out with you if you disagree with me.” (yes I am paraphrasing) was the wrong way. Having the conversation in front of others was also a bad choice. Walky was in the right here, someone that petty and controlling gets shown the door.
She’s probably used to being able to say that kind of thing to Danny, and have him go “oh, okay” because he’s hopelessly in love with her. It seems to me that she was not anticipating that reaction.
That’s probably a big part of it. See how being a spineless enabler ruins your ex-girlfriend for others Danny?
At least Joe is amused. And I assume Mike is also amused.
What are you trying to say?
Baby’s first words!
Yeah but Walky getting his pajama-jeans was an entire arc. She’s putting him down for the very reason he got them in the first place, which was to go around in public in them. He was very excited to do this. If that’s a problem for her then it’s good they broke up.
To be entirely fair she wasn’t exactly aware of this. It’s somewhat understandable that she didn’t realize how big a deal the pants were to him. It’s easy to confuse somebody who does not care how they are perceived for somebody who doesn’t care how they appear.
I think even if she was aware of this, she would probably still think it ridiculous. She would probably rant about how their inanimate, and it’s stupid that he would get attached to them, which would have probably made things worse.
Later we’re gonna find out she’s just really bad at seduction. In her head it sounded more like “Pants. Off. Now. This makeout can proceed no further while you continue to wear those pants.” but it just all came out so wrong.
Later on she’s gonna go around asking her friends if her dominatrix voice sounds like a mom and get worried about the implications that has for Danny.
I… I don’t know what to… thank you?
I don’t know what to think of your Gravatar.
Freud would be so proud.
I don’t know how I feel about seeing Marten all up in my Dumbing of Age
I think you feel so overjoyed by it that your head might just implode.
Walky, you fool!
Thats pretty much the first thing that went through my head at that last panel.
i read that as “snkrs” at first.
so when are we going to see DoA snkrs?
Take a good look, ‘cuz it’s the last time you’re gonna see these!
ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT ON NETFLIX 2013! WOOT!
It’s weird being able to go back and find this and holy shit it actually happened this time
What was that?!?
Am I the only one who has a mental picture of Walky flying a pair of pajama jeans as a flag and yelling from the top of a high wall.
“You can take my freedom… but you’ll never take my pajama jeans!”
Or something to that effect?
If he’s wearing no pants… yes. Otherwise no.
he would either yell that or sing about camp anawanna.
Hmm. When Sal was a juvenile delinquent, I didn’t think much of it, because that just seemed to be her destiny regardless of world. I didn’t think much about Walky’s childish behavior for the same reason. But that line about “I guess there are Moms everywhere” just makes me go hmm. Are all these cartoons and junk food things he wasn’t allowed to do at home ever? What exactly is the Walkerton family like in this continuity?
That’s a really good observation, and I think you might be on track about it as well. I know when I finally gained my independence, I overindulged in things I wasn’t allowed to do, though, my childhood wasn’t very restricted. Actually, some things that I was allowed to do before I now overindulge in as well, just because I can.
Yeah, I never experienced that really. I mean, if I asked my parents for weed, booze, or anything else they’d gladly give it to me. I just didn’t ask as I didn’t want any of it. College life I was allowed probably Less independence in the end, XD
Your parents gave you weed and booze? That’s… progressive
“My nipples look like Milk Duds!”
I hope they have Icees!
“Frozen nipples” is what I got from those two comments. ;(
Well…he is sculpted out of caramel
Good point! Walky needs to ditch those pajama jeans ASAP! Caramel and lint do not mix! Or … actually they kind of do … which is the point I’m trying to …
He does seem oddly aware of how she feels about his abs
He’s gonna enjoy those pants all right…
I hope he washes them afterwards or Mike will burn those suckers.
He won’t burn them because they cause Walky too much misery, what with the relationship thing.
I hope Walky didn’t just tag himself out tryin’ to steal third base.
Professional wrestling baseball?
I guess they do both kind of use a bat? Sarah must play that sport..
Getting tagged out is also baseball terminology – unsure if you can tag yourself out…
This just goes to show you…girls may come and go, but nothing hugs your body quite like pajama jeans
And they don’t hurt your balls when you cheat on them.
Ultimately, Pajama Jeans are waaay better.
I’m a girl, by the way.
“NO MOOBS FOR YOU!”
Huh, I was joking when I said that they’d only last three more strips, turns out that was an understatement.
well that was fast.
We didn’t break up over it, but my ex and I had a similar argument, except that she wanted me to wear pants even if I wasn’t in public.
but if you have to wear pants at home, how are you expected to keep the love alive?
Heck, how are you expected to keep your dangly bits aired out?
Kind of the opposite here – my gf taught me not to wear pants around the house…
Pants are optional as long as you are not within viewing distance of a window. Then please, put on pants… Also not optional if you’re in your garage at 5AM when I’m delivering your newspaper and your door is open and you also decided underwear is optional. Please, don’t… Ever… Again… Ever…
OH GOD THE MENTAL IMAGES!!!!!!!!!!
Walky, you dog, you.
Joe appears to be having similar thoughts.
No way this is the end of it. At some point in the next few days (strip time) their hormones will kick in and one or both will mysteriously forget why they were so upset.
And I’ll bet it’ll be Dorothy whose hormones will kick in. She’ll wake up in the middle of the night sweating and dreaming of Walky’s nipples.
Walky’s moobs. They’re glorious.
How long until they get back together?
1 day in DoA time, I’ll guess. Dorothy’s gonna concede and return with his toy. 1 day equals… 10 strips?
Noooo, Willis! Don’t you let him Walky away like that! Ó___Ò
Your Gravatar makes that comment all the better.
Walky has mother issues, maybe? I kinda wonder what Walky’s home life mist be like…
He apparently got told to dress himself in the morning
Maybe or maybe Walky’s, slob-like nature is a bit ingrained as a form of rebellion against his Mom.
Seems to fit the profile:
Smart, has an IQ test when younger.
Pushy Mother due to high IQ test score.
Goes for all the subjects his Mom would approve of like ‘gender politics’.
And coasts it again something his mom wouldn’t approve of etc…
Your gravatar is making me hungry.
NO, Walky! Sexytimes _always_ trumps comfort!
Sexytimes are more comfortable than the word comfortable can contain.
And yet, the superior sexytimes are to be had with a partner who accepts you the way you are.
I keep picking out the words in bold and piecing them together in the hope that there will be a hidden message, but there never is.
Oh thank goodness that’s over.
Please let it be over.
I thought it would go on for at least another year, at least in actual time. So that would have been what….5 days in DoA time?
Try Freefall time sometime – started in 1998, and has so far covered… maybe a fortnight?
In the future we will all wear Jedi robes (which will actually be dressing gowns).
Anyone that doesnt like this will just have to load a app on their augmented reality specs and see everyone in suits.
The funny thing is that the big wide 18th century Marie Antoinette gowns started out as dressing gowns…
Really? That’s pretty interesting. I’d ask you to elaborate, but I’m sure I could find it all on Wikipedia far faster
Walky has balls.
And girl-bait nipples. :3
I thought he was referring to the caramel abs.
I like how Sierra is in the tags but it’s only her outline…
With that “moms” panel, Walky just lost the argument _as well as_ bosoms.
I don’t know… Considering her opening line was pretty much the same word-for-word as what the wife or I would say to one of the kids trying to leave the house in their underwear…
Given Walky’s appearance & carefree attitude, I doubt he’ll stay bosom free if he puts some half way decent effort into it.
He’s never been a beggar. Walky’s going to be just fine.
I think it’s pretty interesting who takes whose side here. Some strips, like with Malaya or whatever, are pretty unanimous in one direction, with only a few detractors, but this one seems pretty evenly split. Probably depends on each person’s individual experience of relationships, and of course points to excellent writing and characterization on Willis’s part.
He’s right you know.
Down with the oppresors! Up with pajama jeans!
Or down. If I get to keep ‘em later, of course.
…Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd my mind immediately goes to ‘I only nibbled to show you how I like it!’
You. You have my name.
Does this bother you my old chum?
Yes. I’m supposed to be Kern, dammit!
THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE!
I was going to make a typesetting joke but I honestly don’t even know where to begin.
That’s good – typesetting jokes never seem to know where to stop.
Walky’s got a point. She wanted a low-commitment relationship and now she’s telling him what to wear? Yeah, good luck with that Dorothy.
I never thought I cared about Walky/Dorothy before, but now I is sad . . .
He can do better.
It’s highly likely Dorothy was going to dump him if/when she moves to Yale anyway. She’s just horribly embarased by anyone not career driven like herself.
It’s far better to end it here and now.
But it’s a damn good ending to a relationship.
There is little room for regret.
So, Dorothy wants a low-commitment relationship… but she also wants her partner to change for her?
I’m pretty sure there’s a “wanting to have your cake and eat it too” comment in there somewhere.
wanting her mcnuggets and eating them too?
Seems more like she wants to have her cake and lose weight.
That’s… a pretty good analogy for what’s going on.
Thank you! :3
Apparently the Russian version of that saying is “wanting to have a full bottle of vodka and have your wife be drunk too”
I feel like everyone is missing the point – She isn’t telling him what to wear, she now realizes that he dresses like a slob, and that ruined the attraction to him. Slovenliness is her turn off.
Though I’m not sure how the stained butt taco shirt wasn’t a tip off.
Actually, she never said she wasn’t attracted to him, she only threatened him with it. She is telling him what to wear, and she’s enforcing it with the use of blackmail. I.e.:No more making out unless you take your pants off.(paraphrasing of course)
That’s not blackmail, you don’t owe anyone makeouts, so not making out with them isn’t blackmail
It’s not blackmail, no, but it is manipulative and fairly petty.
Not really? I think you’re making way more out of this than it is. Two people had a relaxed benefits situation thing going on, one of them realized there were things about the other that would make them not want that situation anymore, she told him, he prefered to keep doing what he was doing over the makeouts, so they won’t be doing that anymore
If what just happened was handled half as politely as you re-imagined it, we would not be having this debate.
Dorothy was very rude & disrespectful. She likes to imagine she dosn’t need anybody, and they need to bend to her (obviously superior) tastes & ideas.
This is no different from her ultimatum to Amazi-Girl.
Either way, there is a big lack of respect on her part for others.
I don’t think it’s blackmail, as much as that she is letting him know her preferences. In a pretty heavy-handed way, but still.
It’s not blackmail, but it is a rude ultimatum.
It’s also crude & poorly thought out, given the bases for their relationship.
That makes it sound like all she wants is sex with the caramel abs guy.
See, I don’t see how the two are mutually exclusive. If anything one is the motive and the other is the action.
I’m sort of on the fence with this… On the one hand, I’m on Dorothy’s side, because I don’t like wearing MY pajamas in public, let-alone letting my family/friends walk around in theirs. On the OTHER hand, you’ve got Jeans and you’ve got Pajamas. Way I figure, wearing ‘em both together just saves fabric.
When I was in college, pajamas were a standard attire for many women. Nobody complained.
But that might be a double standard, as women look hot is casual & sloppy attire.
More accurately, attractive people are attractive no matter what they wear.
i think this was played out very realistically, in relationships your supposed to meet halfway. Dorothy had already “given up” some of her drive to be the uber student and the second she asks walky to give up on something he totally says no. it was morally right for her to end it this way because there is no proof besides blind faith that says that walky isn’t going to act like a bloody child every time Dorothy asks him to change something to make it bearable for her to be with him.
do i personally like it? I’m kind of on the fence… on the one hand they made an okay couple, they looked cute together and if they had tried then they could have worked out pretty good. however i’ve been in a relationship with zero reciprocation before, and my sister’s marriage has been on the rocks for the past 5+ years because of the same problem so I’d have to say I’m okay with this turn of events if it means getting away from situations like that.
Umm, how did Dorothy give up any of her drive?
And how the Cheese did she end it when it was Walky who was the instigator of the break-up?
I mean, “He was the one who was all, like, ‘I’m more into my freedom to wear my pants than the not-freedom to not-wear my pants’ or something.” Or something. “Or something.”
I would argue that her giving up some of her drive wasn’t exactly on Walky. She kind of did that herself, Walky didn’t ask her to.
Is it just me, or does Joe look intrigued at the prospect of Walky-nibblin’?
AND SAY GOODBYE TO THESE BECAUSE ITS THE *LAST* TIME
. . . She’ll be back in a week. No one can resist his caramel skin.
I just wanted to say that that last panel is perfect. Body language, expressions, characterization, punchline, really top-notch. Not a surprise to anyone, but that is some excellent cartooning, Willis.
I see a potential pattern forming:
Ultimatum One: Amazi-Girl gives Dorothy exclusives to keep Dorothy as a ‘friend,’ or Dorothy will find out Amazi-Girl’s identity & report it.
Ultimatum Two: Walky stops wearing his pajama-jeans in public, or their casual relationship/make-out fest is over.
Let’s see if there is a number three! Then it is a pattern.
Huh. You know, I didn’t think about that, but you have point.
I just wanted to take a moment, Willis, to congratulate you for writing a comic that is capable of sparking such heated debate in a good way.
Maybe this has all ready been mentioned but ask yourselves this what if things were in reverse and it was walky who was threatening to withhold affection due to Dorothy wearing something he didnt approve of.
At a guess a fair chunk of you would call him a controlling jackass (and you would be right )
So the question i ask you is, Why is it that when Dorothy says it she is in the right?
The issue is that Walky is pretty socially awkward. If the positions were reversed and Dorothy was the socially awkward one, then it would still be sound advice
Man this seems like an awfully contrived reason to instill some relational drama into this. I’m sorry but it just seems a tad silly that they would get into an argument over him wearing pajama pants that look like jeans. Still a funny comic in and of itself but man, really putting conflict in simply for the sake of conflict.
I dunno, it’s been set up for a while now. The entire story arc a few days (in DoA time) ago was titled Pajama Jeans. Haven’t we all gotten into huge arguments over tiny stuff?
And, as many commenters have mentioned, it’s not really *about* the pj jeans. It’s about what it implies about their relationship, their past relationships, their personalities, etc.
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