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by David M Willis on December 9, 2013 at 12:01 am
  • 01 - The Only Dope For Me Is You
└ Tags: ethan, jacob, joe, joyce, sarah

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  1. Jen Aside
    Jen Aside
    December 9, 2013 at 12:01 am | #

    We all are, Sarah =3~~~

    • LiaHansen
      LiaHansen
      December 9, 2013 at 12:02 am | #

      Why is there a pooping butt after your comment?

      • Plasma Mongoose
        Plasma Mongoose
        December 9, 2013 at 12:03 am | #

        I think it’s meant to be a drooling cat-smile face.

        • Totz the Plaid
          Totz the Plaid
          December 9, 2013 at 12:04 am | #

          Maybe a pooping cat face?

          • Tunaro
            Tunaro
            December 9, 2013 at 12:06 am | #

            How does a cat poop from its face?

            • Yotomoe
              Yotomoe
              December 9, 2013 at 12:46 am | #

              Well, Stunky can.

              • mysss
                mysss
                December 11, 2013 at 3:40 pm | #

                WHY DID I START READING THESE WHY

          • Plasma Mongoose
            Plasma Mongoose
            December 9, 2013 at 12:06 am | #

            or a cat holding some sausages…

            • James
              James
              December 9, 2013 at 1:36 am | #

              I see what you did there

            • Steven
              Steven
              December 9, 2013 at 4:33 am | #

              Basically Pusheen.

      • Doctor_Who
        Doctor_Who
        December 9, 2013 at 12:04 am | #

        Early sign of Butt’s Disease.

        • EvergreenFir
          EvergreenFir
          December 9, 2013 at 12:35 am | #

          So sad… flames that burn brightest…

          • Yotomoe
            Yotomoe
            December 9, 2013 at 12:48 am | #

            Usually cuz you’re fartin’ on em.

            • Jenny Creed
              Jenny Creed
              December 9, 2013 at 6:23 am | #

              You guys are the shit. I basically laughed my ass off.

            • Ocbrad1
              Ocbrad1
              December 9, 2013 at 9:27 am | #

              Blue darts FTW!

      • AgentKeen
        AgentKeen
        December 9, 2013 at 12:10 am | #

        I think you mean “Why is there a pooping butt when cyclops isn’t around?”

        • Drunken Nordmann
          Drunken Nordmann
          December 9, 2013 at 3:15 am | #

          How do you know he’s not around?

          • John
            John
            December 9, 2013 at 3:46 pm | #

            Marcie is actually Cyclops. That’s why the goggles.

      • PedanticJerkass
        PedanticJerkass
        December 9, 2013 at 2:11 am | #

        Better than an asshat, at least. <3

      • Jen Aside
        Jen Aside
        December 9, 2013 at 11:43 pm | #

        SHUT UP IT IS A JIZZING PENIS WITH A LARGE HEADhere I will add balls

        8===3~~~

    • Super Duper
      Super Duper
      December 9, 2013 at 12:06 am | #

      And she was the one who insisted on no Drama.

    • Sock
      Sock
      December 10, 2013 at 1:56 am | #

      Looks like a pair of balls and a shaft…with the end sticking into sarah…

  2. Opus the Poet
    Opus the Poet
    December 9, 2013 at 12:02 am | #

    4th wall!

    • Opus the Poet
      Opus the Poet
      December 9, 2013 at 12:12 am | #

      Well that didn’t make much sense.

      • Ivan
        Ivan
        December 9, 2013 at 10:21 am | #

        It most certainly did!

        But I’m in a straight jacket, navigating by voice, so I could be wrong.

  3. Super Duper
    Super Duper
    December 9, 2013 at 12:02 am | #

    Sarah, get in line. Behind me and everything else on the planet.

    • KingMabel
      KingMabel
      December 9, 2013 at 12:06 am | #

      Actually, I could go after Sarah. I don’t mind.

      • Nym
        Nym
        December 9, 2013 at 12:09 am | #

        We can form our own line, KingMabel. Everyone else may mistake us for the rest of the Jacob queue, but at least we’ll know the truth.

      • Yotomoe
        Yotomoe
        December 9, 2013 at 12:49 am | #

        I’ll be in line for Sarah, in the meantime.

    • Rani
      Rani
      December 9, 2013 at 12:25 am | #

      Line starts here.

    • Opus the Poet
      Opus the Poet
      December 9, 2013 at 1:35 am | #

      Not me, Dina is my OTP in DOA. The rest can kiss a velociraptor on the lips.

      • JustcallmeSoul
        JustcallmeSoul
        December 9, 2013 at 5:39 am | #

        you and approximately 3,502 others.

    • Schist
      Schist
      December 9, 2013 at 2:54 pm | #

      Wait, so would this line be long enough that people at the back could turn round and cheat the system? *schemes*

  4. Ourorboros
    Ourorboros
    December 9, 2013 at 12:02 am | #

    Think about what your reaction means, Joyce.

    • Nym
      Nym
      December 9, 2013 at 12:10 am | #

      I think she does – she looks to me like she’s clearly signalling Sarah not to out her gay boyfriend.

      • Ourorboros
        Ourorboros
        December 9, 2013 at 12:24 am | #

        What it means that she must keep such a fundamental fact hidden. What it says about her and them. What it means about her own fears of her sexuality and how this jibs with her dreams of finding a husband and building a family. Why others must take burdens for her. What kind of person all this makes her.

        • Nym
          Nym
          December 9, 2013 at 12:30 am | #

          Ah, yes. Well, I figure we have until she and Ethan think about their lives and their (relationship) choices to enjoy this train wreck for all its worth.

        • John
          John
          December 9, 2013 at 12:34 am | #

          Maybe… she’s thinking that outing someone, especially to is really fucking rude, at best, and at worst dangerous to their health and well-being?

          (Though, watch, Jacob figured it out without being told just like everyone else but Joyce has, and just doesn’t care.)

          • John
            John
            December 9, 2013 at 12:36 am | #

            Meh. Stupid half-hidden comment box. Pretend that “, especially to” isn’t there.

          • Ourorboros
            Ourorboros
            December 9, 2013 at 12:44 am | #

            Maybe she shouldn’t be in a relationship with a gay man if outing is an issue. Maybe that is the point, instead of this specific point in time.
            Maybe, since everybody except Joyce and Jacob (maybe) figured out Ethan is gay right away this will be a constant issue.
            Maybe, since Joyce was told early on that Ethan is gay that this and the other problems I listed, some of these problems could have been anticipated.

            Maybe if she wasn’t so arrogant as to believe she is such a shining beacon of light and goodness that she can “turn” Ethan (or that her girl parts were so overwhelmingly good) she wouldn’t be facing these issues.

            Sure when you are young life is really about the short term, because how much depth does your vision really have? But these aren’t just normal relationship issues and they are easily seen in the first minute.

            • Silamy
              Silamy
              December 9, 2013 at 12:56 am | #

              Well, Joyce and Ethan are in a nonsexual relationship, and he did recloset himself for whatever his reasons are. Relationships can (and in my opinion, should) be based on more than just mutual attraction. One of my best friends is asexual and biromantic -she explains that she dates because she likes the companionship and the emotional intimacy is greater than friendship.
              Joyce is also a victim of sexual abuse -that’s not something one just “gets over”. She knows that she’s totally safe with Ethan not just because of his personality because he is not attracted to her and so wouldn’t do anything, regardless. And he knows that she’s not expecting anything physical of him, which was how he originally learned that he’s gay.
              Not saying that either of them’s necessarily doing the best thing, but they’re both consenting adults, and they know what they’re getting into and what the expectations are.

            • John
              John
              December 9, 2013 at 1:17 am | #

              I don’t approve of Joyce trying to convert Ethan, either, but waving Sarah off of unthinkingly outing Ethan to his roommate, someone they don’t really know, seems like a really weird thing to be criticizing her for.

              This strip could have happened exactly the same way if Joyce and Ethan were just friends, with no twisted mockery of a relationship involved.

              • Ourorboros
                Ourorboros
                December 9, 2013 at 2:47 am | #

                I never criticized her about waving Sarah off, I criticized her for what it all means.
                It probably isn’t about just outing Ethan, her world doesn’t work that way. She hasn’t thought or even knows about the violent ways some people react to gays.

                So, if it isn’t about protecting Ethan from gay bashing, what is it about? It’s about protecting the illusion of her fake relationship.

                BTW, I didn’t say Ethan doesn’t have worries about gay bashing. I’d also say there is a 100%+ chance that Sarah knows more about the negative crap gays have to deal with than Joyce does. She also warned Joyce that if Dorothy found out she was converting a gay man, she risks losing Dorothy’s friendship. Think that sort of thing might be what Joyce is thinking of?

                I don’t care if Joyce is trying to convert a gay man or not. I just think it’s doomed to fail and covered in fears and personal delusions that do more harm than good.

                • JustcallmeSoul
                  JustcallmeSoul
                  December 9, 2013 at 5:46 am | #

                  As willis makes it all work out in the end between joyce and ethan out of pure spite for his fanbase, and they have a dozen prefect little catholic kids named after the same saint, paul, paulette, pauline, pauly, P.J (paul joshua) and Paulson.

                • JustcallmeSoul
                  JustcallmeSoul
                  December 9, 2013 at 6:05 am | #

                  im sorry, i forgot that joyce was part of a non-denom not a catholic church. dont kill me! keep the pitchforks at bay please!

                • John
                  John
                  December 9, 2013 at 3:50 pm | #

                  Nevertheless, Sarah is the one who just almost blithely outed Ethan, while Joyce is the one who’s warning her off.

              • Bill
                Bill
                December 9, 2013 at 9:45 am | #

                (response to John)
                Remember, though, that Ethan’s own parents think that if he bangs Joyce — or any other normal girl, for that matter — early and often he will fuck the gay away.

                • Bill
                  Bill
                  December 9, 2013 at 9:47 am | #

                  Oops; substitute “hetero” for “normal” — although that is normal to the parents’ way of thinking.

                • John
                  John
                  December 9, 2013 at 4:05 pm | #

                  It’s worked so well for Saul!

              • Ourorboros
                Ourorboros
                December 9, 2013 at 6:01 pm | #

                Sure Sarah is the one who almost outed Ethan.
                Once again, it is Joyce who put her in that position.
                Put her there because of her own mixed up motivations.

                Notice I never said anything about Ethan warning Sarah, only Joyce. Those issues are different. In fact, I started by telling Joyce to think about what all that means.
                Yeah, people don’t get credit for the accidental benefits of their actions and making up motivations doesn’t help either.

  5. David Herbert
    David Herbert
    December 9, 2013 at 12:02 am | #

    “Jealous I can’t see both of you like that.”

  6. Darbs
    Darbs
    December 9, 2013 at 12:02 am | #

    Good save. Great way to show that Joyce’s stereotypical advice was so wrong earlier. -_-

    • Nym
      Nym
      December 9, 2013 at 12:15 am | #

      Well, Joyce couldn’t know that Jacob was that one hot guy in Sarah’s law class she spent a semester crushing on, so it was still a suggestion with awful reasoning behind it. Just, y’know, a suggestion with awful reasoning that strangely coincided with someone she might actually date.

    • Pat
      Pat
      December 9, 2013 at 5:47 pm | #

      Joyce used bad reasoning to reach a conclusion. That doesn’t actually prove that the conclusion is invalid.
      Sarah’s reaction mirrors Ethan’s, so it doesn’t seem to have much to do with race anyway.

  7. Mr. Random
    Mr. Random
    December 9, 2013 at 12:02 am | #

    Yes, yes she is.

  8. Rani
    Rani
    December 9, 2013 at 12:02 am | #

    I don’t think her cheeks have done that in eons.

    • Yotomoe
      Yotomoe
      December 9, 2013 at 1:19 am | #

      I don’t even know how you could see it! She must be blushin’ HARDCORE.

  9. GoldStarz
    GoldStarz
    December 9, 2013 at 12:03 am | #

    Oh. Ooooooooooooh. This kinda explain a lot about Jacob and his not-caring of his dressed down attitude.

  10. Wonder Wig
    Wonder Wig
    December 9, 2013 at 12:03 am | #

    Ethan, obviously signalling to his assassins hiding behind the cereal dispensers.

    • Totz the Plaid
      Totz the Plaid
      December 9, 2013 at 12:06 am | #

      He _thinks_ they’re assassins, but they’re really just Dina’s parents.

      She chose doors, but they chose cereal dispensers.

      • Doctor_Who
        Doctor_Who
        December 9, 2013 at 12:09 am | #

        Dina’s parents are assassins. That’s why they are so silent.

        • Totz the Plaid
          Totz the Plaid
          December 9, 2013 at 12:10 am | #

          Nah, everyone just _thinks_ they are.

        • Siddlaw
          Siddlaw
          December 9, 2013 at 12:12 am | #

          Under their hats they hide shurikens and katanas!

          • Schist
            Schist
            December 9, 2013 at 2:57 pm | #

            Or they are just velociraptors in disguise.

        • Ourorboros
          Ourorboros
          December 9, 2013 at 12:46 am | #

          How else did she learn how to hide behind doors so easily and just disappear into crowds seamlessly?

          Dino-ninja!

  11. Plasma Mongoose
    Plasma Mongoose
    December 9, 2013 at 12:04 am | #

    I thought something like this was going to happen.

  12. timemonkey
    timemonkey
    December 9, 2013 at 12:05 am | #

    Oh, right, Jacob’s supposed to be hot.

    • rachel
      rachel
      December 9, 2013 at 12:06 am | #

      YOU ARE CORRECT

      HOT JACOB IS HOT

      • saltchocolate
        saltchocolate
        December 9, 2013 at 12:42 am | #

        Melting hot.

        • ninja_jesus
          ninja_jesus
          December 9, 2013 at 3:20 am | #

          A melting pot of hot.

          • Fuzzydaemon
            Fuzzydaemon
            December 10, 2013 at 12:08 am | #

            Hot, creamy milk chocolate hot! He is beautiful! Mmmm….yum.

  13. Aakriti
    Aakriti
    December 9, 2013 at 12:05 am | #

    Why is Sarah being so nice?

    • KingMabel
      KingMabel
      December 9, 2013 at 12:07 am | #

      She’s on the road to being sociable. Better to keep the buddies you got.

    • Plasma Mongoose
      Plasma Mongoose
      December 9, 2013 at 12:07 am | #

      Puberty affects people in a variety of different ways.

    • Totz the Plaid
      Totz the Plaid
      December 9, 2013 at 12:10 am | #

      Probably because she actually is attracted to Jacob’s physique.

      • Jack Finch
        Jack Finch
        December 9, 2013 at 4:48 pm | #

        Misanthropes need lovin’ too ya know.

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      December 9, 2013 at 12:10 am | #

      She wants to climb Jacob’s Ladder.

      • Plasma Mongoose
        Plasma Mongoose
        December 9, 2013 at 12:13 am | #

        Nope, she rather slide down his snake. 😀

        • JustcallmeSoul
          JustcallmeSoul
          December 9, 2013 at 5:50 am | #

          im not sure if this is a reference to a bad film, or a bad board game… (as a kid i had two versions of chutes and ladders, the first being Shoots and ladders, and the second being Chutes and Snakes.)

          • Phlebas
            Phlebas
            December 9, 2013 at 6:30 am | #

            Chutes and ladders is the censored US version of Snakes and Ladders.

            • Lurlock
              Lurlock
              December 9, 2013 at 9:28 am | #

              Censored? No, it’s just the one that makes sense. How do you slide down a snake?

              • Mr K
                Mr K
                December 9, 2013 at 11:27 am | #

                Your mom can tell you.

              • Fuzzydaemon
                Fuzzydaemon
                December 10, 2013 at 12:09 am | #

                You’ll learn, I hope.

          • partinobodycular
            partinobodycular
            December 9, 2013 at 11:39 am | #

            Chutes and Snakes must take a long time to play.

            • JustcallmeSoul
              JustcallmeSoul
              December 10, 2013 at 5:49 am | #

              this is why one shouldnt post after 4am… totally meant snakes and latters.

      • Opus the Poet
        Opus the Poet
        December 9, 2013 at 12:14 am | #

        OK I thought that one was funny.

      • Hobouturtle
        Hobouturtle
        December 9, 2013 at 12:17 am | #

        Jacob has a ladder? Where does it go? Does he have a club house? Is the ladder how you get to the club house?

    • saltchocolate
      saltchocolate
      December 9, 2013 at 12:45 am | #

      Because she actually cares about Joyce. Because she’s a fundamentally nice person to people who don’t fuck her over. (She lost her first-year friends *trying* to help her last roommate.)

      And because she’s being melted by Hot Jacob’s hotness. 😀

    • Ourorboros
      Ourorboros
      December 9, 2013 at 12:48 am | #

      She’s been big sistering Joyce from the beginning. Even cleaned hairs out of a shower stall for her. (Joyce followed that up by asking to be carried in, which would have earned a hard shove by me, but to each their own.)

    • saltchocolate
      saltchocolate
      December 9, 2013 at 1:06 am | #

      The nicest thing about Sarah being nice is that it is going to work for her — my prediction. Next panel is Jacob smiling and asking her if she wants to hang out.

      • Ourorboros
        Ourorboros
        December 9, 2013 at 2:49 am | #

        Study, they have a mutual class.

        • saltchocolate
          saltchocolate
          December 9, 2013 at 8:42 am | #

          I’ll take that amendment. In fact, it’s even better, because Sarah’s serious about her studies and will be more into a guy who gives a damn about school. (Even if they only end up studying the LAW of attraction…)

          • Schist
            Schist
            December 9, 2013 at 2:59 pm | #

            She wants to proofread his briefs.

      • begbert2
        begbert2
        December 9, 2013 at 3:27 pm | #

        Next panel is Jacob saying, “Sorry, but I’m gay.” And then Ethan’s head explodes.

        (Okay, yeah, the no-changing-orientation rule nixes this, but it would still be awesome.)

  14. Nym
    Nym
    December 9, 2013 at 12:07 am | #

    Ahahahaha, well, now Sarah, at least, knows Joyce knows. Nice substitution of one awkward truth for another. Sarah with a crush is ridiculously cute.

    • Nym
      Nym
      December 9, 2013 at 12:11 am | #

      Also: apparently my resolution to stay away from the comments did not last even a day. Oops.

      • Doctor_Who
        Doctor_Who
        December 9, 2013 at 12:17 am | #

        There is no escape.

        • Yotomoe
          Yotomoe
          December 9, 2013 at 1:38 am | #

          We will suck you in.

          • JustcallmeSoul
            JustcallmeSoul
            December 9, 2013 at 5:52 am | #

            ONE OF US…

            ONE OF US…

    • Shanunu
      Shanunu
      December 9, 2013 at 1:10 am | #

      Sarah knew this a while ago. She told Joyce her friends would not be her friends anymore if they knew what she was doing.

      • Nym
        Nym
        December 9, 2013 at 2:31 am | #

        Ah, yes, you are right! Obviously this plus your icon is a clear sign I should re-read the Sarah bits of the comic.

      • Ourorboros
        Ourorboros
        December 9, 2013 at 2:57 am | #

        Well Dorothy. She told Joyce she’d loss Dorothy, which gave us a panicky realization face.
        Anybody’s guess how everybody else reacts.
        Walky probably doesn’t care. Billie too, for other reasons. Sal might have a lot to say about it, none of it nice.
        Mike is will work on this when given the opportunity. Maybe he will Batman Gambit Christmas break (15 years hence).

    • Valdrax
      Valdrax
      December 9, 2013 at 8:41 pm | #

      I like the way that Sarah “takes one for the team” that way. I doubt she would have ever admitted that on her own if it hadn’t been the only way to cover for what she was really about to say. That shows she’s both clever on her feet and a really good friend.

  15. timemonkey
    timemonkey
    December 9, 2013 at 12:07 am | #

    Joe’s face is interesting. Gaydar go off perhaps?

    • Intie
      Intie
      December 9, 2013 at 12:12 am | #

      I bet he can smell the gay.

    • John
      John
      December 9, 2013 at 12:18 am | #

      I’m thinking it looks more like an “Aww, little Joycie got herself a boyfriend to chastely smooch, and is taking her first fledgling steps into the awesome world of bangin’. I’m so proud!” face.

  16. newllend
    newllend
    December 9, 2013 at 12:07 am | #

    You know who should show up rite now, mike that would totally make my day

    • LiaHansen
      LiaHansen
      December 9, 2013 at 12:11 am | #

      Ohmygod yes. No more of this dramatic tomfoolery. Mike just walks by and suddenly everybody knows everything about everyone else.

      • Deathjavu
        Deathjavu
        December 9, 2013 at 12:25 am | #

        Don’t we all wish. Certainly not like any of these people are going to get anywhere on their own.

        Really though, anyone would do.

        • ninja_jesus
          ninja_jesus
          December 9, 2013 at 3:24 am | #

          Not just anyone. Mike is the one who started this charade, therefore he will be the one who ends it.

    • Ourorboros
      Ourorboros
      December 9, 2013 at 12:49 am | #

      I’m dying to Mike up that whole table. Joe has to deal with the fact that he’s a lot like his father, who he seems to blame for the divorce.

  17. TrueVCU
    TrueVCU
    December 9, 2013 at 12:09 am | #

    This marks the first time Sarah has made everyone uncomfortable without anger or guilt

    • Rereally
      Rereally
      December 9, 2013 at 12:18 am | #

      Do you mean Jacob?

      • Rereally
        Rereally
        December 9, 2013 at 12:19 am | #

        Ugh. Replied to wrong comment.

  18. Fuzzydaemon
    Fuzzydaemon
    December 9, 2013 at 12:10 am | #

    I’ve always liked Sarah. Now I love her. She is so cute.

    • saltchocolate
      saltchocolate
      December 9, 2013 at 12:47 am | #

      And you are her — in the comments stream, at least.

      • TrueVCU
        TrueVCU
        December 9, 2013 at 10:55 am | #

        You are her and she is me and we are all together

  19. Kiggy
    Kiggy
    December 9, 2013 at 12:14 am | #

    Sarah is attracted to Joe.

    Congrats to those who called it.

    • Kamino Neko
      Kamino Neko
      December 9, 2013 at 10:44 am | #

      Whether or not she’s attracted to Joe has no bearing on this conversation – Jacob is the topic of conversation.

      • Technique
        Technique
        December 9, 2013 at 4:37 pm | #

        http://i.imgur.com/3Gpey.jpg

      • Kiggy
        Kiggy
        December 9, 2013 at 9:52 pm | #

        Aw shoot!!!! I meant to type Jacob>_<

        That happens when you drink too much fruit wine. I was %_% last night.

  20. Bill
    Bill
    December 9, 2013 at 12:15 am | #

    Fact: Ethan is gay.  Joyce knows this.  Amber knows this.  Hell, I think even Joe knows it.  You mean Sarah *didn’t* already know this?

    It’s getting to be you can’t tell the players without a chart of who is doing what and with whom, and who else knows it.

    • RobHagen
      RobHagen
      December 9, 2013 at 12:18 am | #

      Sarah knew. She was shocked that Joyce knew.

      • Deathjavu
        Deathjavu
        December 9, 2013 at 12:30 am | #

        This, right here: she only backs off because Joyce already knows.

      • Jason
        Jason
        December 9, 2013 at 1:16 am | #

        No no, she knew Joyce knows. She’s the one who told Joyce that she’d lose her friends like Dorothy if they knew Joyce was trying to convert Ethan to being straight. She shuts up because she didn’t know that Jacob (and Joe) doesn’t know.

        • begbert2
          begbert2
          December 9, 2013 at 3:34 pm | #

          Sarah now knows Joyce knows but she didn’t originally know Joyce knew and when she first found out she was shocked that Joyce knew and then told Joyce that she’d lose her friends like Dorothy if they knew Joyce was trying to convert Ethan to being straight. Both happened, in that order.

    • Nym
      Nym
      December 9, 2013 at 12:18 am | #

      Sarah knows: http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/04-time-keeps-on-slippin/chromosome/ & http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/04-time-keeps-on-slippin/revulsion/

    • Plasma Mongoose
      Plasma Mongoose
      December 9, 2013 at 12:19 am | #

      Sarah knew that Ethan was gay since Joyce introduced her to him.

    • RobHagen
      RobHagen
      December 9, 2013 at 12:25 am | #

      I think the only person in these last few strips who doesn’t know is Jacob…

      Hoo boy…

      • John
        John
        December 9, 2013 at 12:29 am | #

        And Riley. She just wants cereal.

      • Jason
        Jason
        December 9, 2013 at 1:17 am | #

        And Joe.

        • saltchocolate
          saltchocolate
          December 9, 2013 at 1:31 am | #

          I forgot about Joe. That actually does make it seem more like Joyce is signaling Sarah for her own sake, rather than Ethan’s (which is what I had been thinking). This is at least partly about her ability to keep rubbing her sexy-but-not-horny boyfriend in Joe’s face.

          • ninja_jesus
            ninja_jesus
            December 9, 2013 at 3:28 am | #

            Also, Joyce rubbing against her “sexy-but-not-horny” boyfriend secretly with the pretense of Ethan “fighting his hormones”.

            • saltchocolate
              saltchocolate
              December 9, 2013 at 8:45 am | #

              ^ That.

    • bibulb
      bibulb
      December 9, 2013 at 12:31 am | #

      Sarah knew it, JACOB *DOESN’T*.
      Yet.

    • Ourorboros
      Ourorboros
      December 9, 2013 at 2:59 am | #

      The running gag about Ethan is that everybody socially normal knows he is gay right away.

      • Phlebas
        Phlebas
        December 9, 2013 at 6:32 am | #

        Nobody in DoA, then?

      • Sam
        Sam
        December 9, 2013 at 8:32 pm | #

        Sarah knew right away. Does that mean she is a socially normal person? :0

        • Phlebas
          Phlebas
          December 12, 2013 at 6:21 am | #

          It’s relative.

  21. Bek359
    Bek359
    December 9, 2013 at 12:15 am | #

    Nice save, Sarah. Solid.

  22. Kernanator
    Kernanator
    December 9, 2013 at 12:18 am | #

    Can we all agree that whenever Jacob shows up in a room, sexy music plays?

    • Plasma Mongoose
      Plasma Mongoose
      December 9, 2013 at 12:20 am | #

      Barry White?

      • saltchocolate
        saltchocolate
        December 9, 2013 at 12:50 am | #

        Yes, but maybe something more 21st century? D’Angelo?

        • Plasma Mongoose
          Plasma Mongoose
          December 9, 2013 at 1:53 am | #

          I’m not up with most of the 21st century music artists.

          • saltchocolate
            saltchocolate
            December 9, 2013 at 8:46 am | #

            In any case, you’ve got the right idea.

        • Varangian
          Varangian
          December 9, 2013 at 9:48 am | #

          I think the opening riff to “How Does It Feel” following Jacob around would be entirely appropriate.

          I posit Joe has a similar effect–whenever he shoots a lady fingerguns, the chorus of Tom Jones’ “Sex Bomb” occurs.

      • Ourorboros
        Ourorboros
        December 9, 2013 at 3:02 am | #

        I’m assuming a Barry White voice for Jacob and the sexy wail of a saxophone in the background of any room he is in.
        Of course panties are flying, but we just don’t get that wide angle shot.

  23. Rani
    Rani
    December 9, 2013 at 12:19 am | #

    Willis, my respect for your plotting and characterization skills knows no bounds. I have faith in the way you’ve depicted your characters: even Danny and Ethan, for the most part, make sense within the directions I could see you going.

    Except for one.

    Ethan’s shirt. That long-sleeved, prison-chic, birth-control-by-Gap fashion black-hole of a shirt. Why does he always wear shirts of that style? The sense I get is that his desire to conform is so strong that he’s now dressing like he wants to disappear into the nearest wall he can find.

    • ninja_jesus
      ninja_jesus
      December 9, 2013 at 3:31 am | #

      Maybe his dress sense reflects his feelings of imprisonment that he perceives from being gay; his entire life changed after he found out, and all of what he had was taken away from him with full focus on his homosexuality.

      • The Candyman
        The Candyman
        December 9, 2013 at 7:58 am | #

        I don’t think a teenager would be conscious enough of those kind of things to wear their clothing based on that.

        • ninja_jesus
          ninja_jesus
          December 9, 2013 at 9:13 am | #

          What about the various counter-cultures that teens participate in? Clothes are used as an outlet for self-expression as much as music choice and attitude towards life are. Of course, excluding that, it’s never really a conscious thing; people may see certain kinds of clothing as more comforting and secure than others.

      • Economic_Slump
        Economic_Slump
        December 9, 2013 at 9:54 am | #

        Like I seriously get a Norman Bates vibe from this dude. Like he dresses up like Ma Siegel and OH GOD I CAN’T UNSEE

        • Economic_Slump
          Economic_Slump
          December 9, 2013 at 9:55 am | #

          Weird how my personal email gets the Joyce Gravitar, but the one starting with my last name gets Jacob.

    • Tandel
      Tandel
      December 9, 2013 at 10:38 am | #

      It reminds me of some of the old Shortpacked! shirts. Maybe it’s alluding to that?
      *shrug*

  24. JessWitt
    JessWitt
    December 9, 2013 at 12:19 am | #

    Ethan, Jacob and Joe together in one place. A threesome waiting to happen.

    • Tandel
      Tandel
      December 9, 2013 at 10:42 am | #

      It needs Mike to ensure maximum devastation. Think about it… He’d instigate it to get the two-fer of spiting Joyce and Ethan’s tenuous plan, usurping the only dude that takes down Sarah’s barriers, and then make Joe forever question himself. (He could then actualize into his ultimate form: The Todd.)

      For even more bonus points, get Danny into the mix so Mike can spite… us… the readers.

  25. Cheryl
    Cheryl
    December 9, 2013 at 12:26 am | #

    she almost dropped the balls…I mean ball.

  26. Peruhain
    Peruhain
    December 9, 2013 at 12:32 am | #

    Well, that just got even more interesting. Trying to figure out whether Joyce is signaling to Ethan, “no I haven’t outed you to Sarah,” or whether she’s giving Sarah the “don’t out my boyfriend to his roomie” wave-off, or maybe both. Based on their relative positions two strips ago, Sarah does not appear to be looking in Joyce’s direction in the first panel after the frantic signaling. (But that may be over-analyzing, maybe that’s the “oops, how do I wiggle out of this one” moment of hesitation look.) In any event, this is a marvelous illustration of the tangled webs of deceit that are the closet. Joyce is now on the “other side of the closet,” still half in denial (about the implications, at least) of Ethan’s gayness, but conscious enough of what it means to all parties concerned that she must cooperate in the lie. She is thoroughly entangled, compromising one aspect of her integrity (her honesty) to save another aspect (her virginity). And Sarah . . . I can’t remember whether she knows already or not, but I have to guess from this that she does . . . she’s been entangled in Ethan’s web now, too. What a masterful illustration of this set of issues! Kudos, Willis!

    • Peruhain
      Peruhain
      December 9, 2013 at 12:40 am | #

      OK, Sarah knows Ethan is gay, and she knows Joyce knows: http://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/03-answers-in-hennessy/unwittingly/

      • saltchocolate
        saltchocolate
        December 9, 2013 at 12:53 am | #

        So Joyce’s signalling is all about helping Ethan maintain his cover — on the assumption that Jacob would be homophobic . . . or that, even if he is cool with it, the more people know, the sooner EVERYONE will end up knowing.

        • Phlebas
          Phlebas
          December 9, 2013 at 6:36 am | #

          More likely on the assumption that the fewer people know Ethan is gay, the less temptation they will send his way, and the simpler it will all be when he settles down to being hetero after all.

      • John
        John
        December 9, 2013 at 1:55 am | #

        Sarah knows, and Ethan knows that Sarah knows, and that she has in fact known longer than Joyce has known.

  27. Varangian
    Varangian
    December 9, 2013 at 12:34 am | #

    Sarah, it’s okay. It’s okay to say you want the D.

    I think everyone wants Jacob’s D a little.

    • The Candyman
      The Candyman
      December 9, 2013 at 7:59 am | #

      Ethan wants it a lot.

      • Varangian
        Varangian
        December 9, 2013 at 9:39 am | #

        It’s more complicated, though! He wants the D but he doesn’t want the D to know he wants it. Or anyone else.

        He’s tsundere for the D.

    • Tandel
      Tandel
      December 9, 2013 at 10:43 am | #

      Crank up the C, crank up the D!

  28. ShaggyDonahugh
    ShaggyDonahugh
    December 9, 2013 at 12:36 am | #

    HAHA! YOU’VE BEEN OUTED!
    No not you Ethan, go away.

  29. Kladeos
    Kladeos
    December 9, 2013 at 12:41 am | #

    Wow, Sarah.

  30. Questionor
    Questionor
    December 9, 2013 at 12:50 am | #

    Is Joe smiling and staring at that look of horror on Amber’s face in the last comic? The angle seems right.

  31. Bob Ross
    Bob Ross
    December 9, 2013 at 12:53 am | #

    Man, is Ethan ever a douche.

    • Schist
      Schist
      December 9, 2013 at 3:02 pm | #

      How so?

      • Bob Ross
        Bob Ross
        December 9, 2013 at 9:36 pm | #

        Mainly for that last comic but also overall. Also I’m not sure on the ethics of not telling his roommate or something at least.

  32. Gottawonder
    Gottawonder
    December 9, 2013 at 12:54 am | #

    Good for Sarah. Nice save, and she’s cute when she is embarrassed. She’s hot for Jacobs body from the looks of things.

    I gotta wonder if Sarah saw the shitty thing Ethan did to Amber, kissing Joyce and holding eye contact with Amber while he did it.

    If Sarah saw him do that, then she is not holding her tongue to protect his sorry ass, but for Joyce.

    Oh, Mike where are you when we need you most. This whole mess is just made to order for Mike to set aright, in his own particular way.

    • Ourorboros
      Ourorboros
      December 9, 2013 at 3:05 am | #

      I maintain that Ethan was thinking of Amber’s judgment and that was a sheepish look.

      • Heavensrun
        Heavensrun
        December 9, 2013 at 11:19 am | #

        I dunno, he kinda had his mom’s judgy angry eyebrows in that frame.

        • Lel
          Lel
          December 9, 2013 at 7:39 pm | #

          “F*ck you, I can be straight if I want to” was the vibe I got from this.
          But you can’t, Ethan. Unless batman was a chick the whole time.

      • begbert2
        begbert2
        December 9, 2013 at 3:44 pm | #

        I disagree with a high degree of certainty.

  33. Bilfred
    Bilfred
    December 9, 2013 at 12:56 am | #

    ’twas a good save indeed.

  34. Alex Stritar
    Alex Stritar
    December 9, 2013 at 1:01 am | #

    Real smooth there, Sarah.

    • Alex Stritar
      Alex Stritar
      December 9, 2013 at 1:07 am | #

      I don’t think I’ve seen the ‘awaiting moderation’ thing before. Is that standard procedure for Gravatar accounts? (Just got mine)

  35. NoHeart
    NoHeart
    December 9, 2013 at 1:18 am | #

    This may be the least sarcastic/exasperated look i’ve seen on Sarah

  36. Arkantos
    Arkantos
    December 9, 2013 at 1:22 am | #

    This… this expression on Sarah’s face in the last panel is new and I don’t think I like it.

    • saltchocolate
      saltchocolate
      December 9, 2013 at 1:34 am | #

      I think I know what you mean, Arkantos. Sarah is cutest when she’s looking confident and amused.

      • John
        John
        December 9, 2013 at 3:58 pm | #

        Best Sarah.

        • John
          John
          December 9, 2013 at 4:04 pm | #

          Hmm. Or maybe this is best Sarah. I’m not sure, but I’m kind of afraid to suggest that this one isn’t.

          • saltchocolate
            saltchocolate
            December 10, 2013 at 12:04 am | #

            Both.

  37. Plasma Mongoose
    Plasma Mongoose
    December 9, 2013 at 1:54 am | #

    What flavour is Jacob anyhow since Sal and Walky have already taken caramel.

    • Ourorboros
      Ourorboros
      December 9, 2013 at 3:07 am | #

      Chocolate.
      If we can find nougat, we can make a candy bar.
      If anybody’s nuts are pecan, we have a turtle bar (no nougat).

  38. Fernando
    Fernando
    December 9, 2013 at 2:00 am | #

    What, Ethan doesn’t get any tag love?

    • Nym
      Nym
      December 9, 2013 at 2:39 am | #

      Apparently when everyone shut their eyes in horrific response to that kiss, Ethan’s evil clone knocked him out and replaced him. Watch the comedy and wacky hijinks unfold as Ethan’s evil clone discovers he cannot hope to match Ethan himself in wrecking Ethan’s life.

      • begbert2
        begbert2
        December 9, 2013 at 3:45 pm | #

        Ethan actually is the evil clone; his good clone is the one who replaced him.

        • Bob Ross
          Bob Ross
          December 9, 2013 at 9:37 pm | #

          the good clone hasn’t replaced him YET that’s for sure

  39. That One Guy
    That One Guy
    December 9, 2013 at 3:32 am | #

    GET IT GIRL

  40. caesaria82
    caesaria82
    December 9, 2013 at 3:58 am | #

    Sarah is the cutest omfg.

  41. Jack Finch
    Jack Finch
    December 9, 2013 at 4:49 am | #

    Sarah I love you.

  42. CallMeIshmael
    CallMeIshmael
    December 9, 2013 at 8:09 am | #

    Ethan’s awfulness is second only to Danny’s.

    • ninja_jesus
      ninja_jesus
      December 9, 2013 at 9:02 am | #

      Ohhhh no. Danny has nothing on Ethan. Danny, while awful, has only ever been awful unintentionally. Ethan, on the other hand, knew full well what he was doing and chose to do it anyway instead of accepting himself and trying to cope.

      • CallMeIshmael
        CallMeIshmael
        December 9, 2013 at 10:06 am | #

        Good point. Both of them are insufferable, but Ethan has vaulted into “legendary asshole” status.

      • Drango
        Drango
        December 9, 2013 at 1:12 pm | #

        So why is it that Ethan’s such a horrible person again? People aren’t allowed to decide what kind of person they want to date?

        • begbert2
          begbert2
          December 9, 2013 at 3:57 pm | #

          Ethan and Joyce are mutually enabling each other with a destructive relationship that perpetuates each other’s denial of reality. It’s terrible, but at least it’s consensual.

          Or at least, that’s the official story. In actuality Ethan doesn’t give two shits about Joyce and is just using her, having given her the impression that he wants a relationship when he really only wants a beard, and barely even that. I don’t recall him ever showing her genuine affection for even a moment, and his eye wanders so hard that the minute some (apparent) manmeat walks into the room he forgets Joyce is even there. And the way he just used a hello kiss to say “fuck you, Amber” while paying no attention to the girl he was kissing, that was appalling.

          Yeah. Ethan is an unfortunate kid who’s confused and self-doubting, but (with Mike’s helpful guidiance) has entered into a relationship which he’s using as an excuse to treat people like dirt. Yay him.

        • Lel
          Lel
          December 9, 2013 at 7:42 pm | #

          Choosing to date someone you can’t romantically love is generally frowned upon in non-noble circles.
          Inb4 people telling me he could be biromantic.

    • xain
      xain
      December 9, 2013 at 11:02 am | #

      Danny’s awfulness is accidental and someone has to be the living embodiment of murphy’s law on the other hand what Ethan just did was horrible and totally on purpose but mark my words in a weeks time everyone will forgive Ethan and be pissed about Danny screwing up yet again.

    • Heavensrun
      Heavensrun
      December 9, 2013 at 11:17 am | #

      In fairness, while I agree that Ethan is terrible in this universe, he’s kinda okay here. We don’t know if Ethan knows anything at all about Jacob’s reaction to homosexuality, and not wanting to be outed to a roommate that could take any position on a spectrum from total disinterest to homophobic bullying is perfectly reasonable. And even if he was going to be “out” to Jacob, it’s his right to make that call, not Sarah’s.

      • xain
        xain
        December 9, 2013 at 11:35 am | #

        okay first off I was referring to the kiss last comic, not wanting to be outed is a legitimate concern. And even with what he did with the kiss I dont hate this universes Ethan. Sometime decent people behave like complete Ass-
        hats.

  43. Dude
    Dude
    December 9, 2013 at 9:12 am | #

    Sometimes I forget if Joyce remembers that Ethan is gay. This cleared that up.

    • begbert2
      begbert2
      December 9, 2013 at 3:59 pm | #

      Oh, she knows all right. She’s trying to sex him up to “fix” him. (And because she’s burning with lust, but using the ‘fix him’ excuse allows her to pretend that part isn’t happening.)

      • timemonkey
        timemonkey
        December 9, 2013 at 6:12 pm | #

        She’s very specifically NOT trying to sex him up. Between her views on sex and her near rape trauma Ethan’s biggest appeal is his complete lack of desire to touch her sexually. Him being gay just gives her a few extra excuses to stick with it.

        • begbert2
          begbert2
          December 9, 2013 at 9:14 pm | #

          I actually sort of disagree. The great appeal of Ethan is that he will never initiate anything and will (presumably) apply the brakes at around the same place her morals will allow. I state this in the mindset of complete ignorance of how a gay man would actually respond to the physical advances of a straight woman, but that’s okay: Joyce is a complete ignorant too.

          Joyce wants sexytimes, but she doesn’t want actual sex. She’s very horny and wants to kiss, and hug, and snuggle, and dance close, and maybe even to run her fingers along his manly chest. She wants to try out the experience of love and romance and physical closeness that the man will start trying to race ahead, or that she will start racing ahead and he won’t stop her. So while she isn’t looking for actual sex, she *is* (in my opinion) trying to sex him up. A little. (Heck, you can tell that just by watching her start steaming when she looks at him.)

          You can tell me you don’t like my definition of ‘is’ and dispute that you can sex him up without actually having sex, but I still maintain that Joyce isn’t in this as a charity project or as a desire for platonic friendship or even because she thinks he’s marriagable; she’s in it for the romance and, yes, the physical. The ‘within safe boundaries’ physical.

  44. nothri
    nothri
    December 9, 2013 at 10:24 am | #

    Subtle ninja moves, that.

  45. Fred
    Fred
    December 9, 2013 at 10:47 am | #

    Do we have any indications that Jacob is straight?

    • Heavensrun
      Heavensrun
      December 9, 2013 at 11:14 am | #

      He’s definitely attracted to females in the other continuity, and the author ascribes to a policy that sexuality between continuities is constant. Doesn’t mean he coudn’t turn out to be bi, but we haven’t seen any evidence of that thus far.

  46. Crumplepunch
    Crumplepunch
    December 9, 2013 at 1:03 pm | #

    Sarah can tell a lie and a truth at the same time.

    She is some kind of sorceress.

  47. OmegaDez
    OmegaDez
    December 9, 2013 at 2:15 pm | #

    This farce has to end.

    • Jack Finch
      Jack Finch
      December 9, 2013 at 3:32 pm | #

      It WILL end…in heartbreak, for that is the way of the Willis.

    • Ourorboros
      Ourorboros
      December 9, 2013 at 6:10 pm | #

      They say if you say Mike’s name backwards three times he will appear and make everybody confront their issues.

      • Jack Finch
        Jack Finch
        December 9, 2013 at 7:00 pm | #

        ren-raw kyme!
        ren-raw kyme!
        ren-raw…..psych!

  48. Markus
    Markus
    December 9, 2013 at 5:53 pm | #

    sigh.. late to the party… but this lunch needs Mike.

    • Lel
      Lel
      December 9, 2013 at 7:42 pm | #

      Mike’s letting this play out. Which means it must end horribly without his intervention.

  49. man in black
    man in black
    December 9, 2013 at 10:16 pm | #

    Great page

  50. Maycroft
    Maycroft
    December 9, 2013 at 11:28 pm | #

    Whoa, sarah has drives!

  51. Volkai
    Volkai
    December 10, 2013 at 12:53 am | #

    And once again, Jacob’s voice is that of Avery Brooks (Commander Sisko, DS9) in my head.

  52. Lekoppa
    Lekoppa
    December 10, 2013 at 12:37 pm | #

    When I initially read this, for some reason, my phone obscured that last panel. I spent an entire day thinking that the punchline for this strip was nothing more than Sarah giving a wacky, 4th-wall-breaking stunned expression- something like Jim, from The Office.

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