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Scoot scoot

by David M Willis on March 7, 2017 at 12:01 am
  • 03 - The Thing I Was Before
└ Tags: amber, ethan

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  1. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    March 7, 2017 at 12:05 am | #

    not a creepy move at all!

    o.o

    • factorsofx
      factorsofx
      March 7, 2017 at 12:05 am | #

      sliding into dms like

      • Clif
        Clif
        March 7, 2017 at 3:27 pm | #

        It’s the manic smile that sells it.

    • Vi
      Vi
      March 7, 2017 at 3:02 am | #

      I dunno, I feel like they’ve been friends for so long that it kind of negates the creepiness. They really love each other, even though they’ve had some hard times.

      • ValdVin
        ValdVin
        March 7, 2017 at 8:00 am | #

        Yep. Unless Ethan has some sort of claustrophobia we’ve yet to hear about, this is what friends will do.

        There are enough issues going on in this tetrahedron (Ethan/Danny/Amber/AG) that I hope claustrophobia isn’t part of it.

      • Ana Chronistic
        Ana Chronistic
        March 7, 2017 at 11:51 pm | #

        I was thinking of this time where

        C: *sitting on a couch*
        T: *walks up with a bag*
        C: “AUGH! WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT??”
        T: “…oranges??”

    • BenRG
      BenRG
      March 7, 2017 at 5:53 am | #

      Amber is just signalling that she wants this conversation to be private. As I am pretty sure that it involves You-Know-Who in the cape, I can understand her wanting to do a pre-teen style ‘fortress of inaudibility’ around her.

  2. Doctor_Who
    Doctor_Who
    March 7, 2017 at 12:05 am | #

    Now put two more on top and you have a fort.

    • Woobie
      Woobie
      March 7, 2017 at 12:07 am | #

      It’s a fort NOW.
      Two on top make it an impregnable love nest.

      • adrien
        adrien
        March 7, 2017 at 1:25 am | #

        “Impregnable” ? As in “unconquerable” or..?

        • DJTsurugi
          DJTsurugi
          March 7, 2017 at 4:52 am | #

          what you did there, I see it. ~<3

      • Ed Rhodes
        Ed Rhodes
        March 7, 2017 at 6:47 am | #

        “Never cared for the word ‘impregnible,’ sounds too much like ‘unsinkable.’ ” The Doctor

    • UltraKyrie
      UltraKyrie
      March 7, 2017 at 12:07 am | #

      The only acceptable usage of these chairs.

      • Danni
        Danni
        March 7, 2017 at 12:10 am | #

        musical chairs exists you heathen!

    • foamy
      foamy
      March 7, 2017 at 12:16 am | #

      Why have a fort when this is clearly a set up for a CAGE MATCH

      • A Scientist
        A Scientist
        March 7, 2017 at 1:46 am | #

        Amber’s cashing in her Money in the Bank.

    • Reltzik
      Reltzik
      March 7, 2017 at 12:20 am | #

      Actually, a niftier design would be to have eight. Two parallels on the bottom, and two parallels perpendicular to those on top, so that you could worm your way around them like an oversized hamster.

      …. I’m overthinking things aren’t I?

      • Mr. Random
        Mr. Random
        March 7, 2017 at 1:07 am | #

        Yes, but I like the design of it.

  3. rachel
    rachel
    March 7, 2017 at 12:05 am | #

    this is the cutestfunnest

  4. Emperor Daniel
    Emperor Daniel
    March 7, 2017 at 12:06 am | #

    It is as Willis foreshadowed. These chairs can seal you off from the world, and none will sense your presence.

    • Passchendaele
      Passchendaele
      March 7, 2017 at 12:10 am | #

      “In these chairs, nobody can hear you scream.”

      • Reltzik
        Reltzik
        March 7, 2017 at 12:20 am | #

        ……. now that’s some awesome cushions.

    • inqntrol
      inqntrol
      March 7, 2017 at 3:08 am | #

      You might as well take a nap if nobody is going to bother you.

  5. Reltzik
    Reltzik
    March 7, 2017 at 12:06 am | #

    Amber seems cheerful.

    ….. why does this concern me?

    • Tnoy
      Tnoy
      March 7, 2017 at 12:06 am | #

      I had the same thought. It’s not natural.

      • tim gueguen
        tim gueguen
        March 7, 2017 at 12:09 am | #

        Maybe it’s not Amber, but another personality in action.

        • Emperor Daniel
          Emperor Daniel
          March 7, 2017 at 12:12 am | #

          The tags say Amber, and she has the blush on her cheeks (which means it’s not Amazi-Girl).

          • Reltzik
            Reltzik
            March 7, 2017 at 12:16 am | #

            CURSE YOU, QUICKDRAW MASTER!

        • Reltzik
          Reltzik
          March 7, 2017 at 12:14 am | #

          Her cheeks are rosy and the tag says Amber.

    • Shiro
      Shiro
      March 7, 2017 at 12:08 am | #

      We have reached breaking point.

    • Fart Captor
      Fart Captor
      March 7, 2017 at 12:13 am | #

      Maybe some of the nice things Danny said actually sunk in and made Amber feel better about herself!

      I don’t see what’s so suspicious about nice happy things happening to a character! Everything will be fine and happy and definitely not on fire!

      • Koms
        Koms
        March 7, 2017 at 1:19 am | #

        You know this is Dumbing of Age….

        • NotPiffany
          NotPiffany
          March 7, 2017 at 9:50 am | #

          I’m pretty sure that was the joke, yes.

        • Koms
          Koms
          March 7, 2017 at 10:03 am | #

          Oh damn me

  6. CandidCanid
    CandidCanid
    March 7, 2017 at 12:06 am | #

    Those chairs would be awesome with a blanket or two. 😮

  7. Hellespont
    Hellespont
    March 7, 2017 at 12:06 am | #

    Yay, Amber and Ethan Super Normal Friendship Time!

  8. Larkle
    Larkle
    March 7, 2017 at 12:06 am | #

    Chair trapped.

  9. Showler
    Showler
    March 7, 2017 at 12:06 am | #

    Do you pull on the other chair for the last bit?

    • Fart Captor
      Fart Captor
      March 7, 2017 at 12:29 am | #

      I think that Amber’s chair is facing the window, not Ethan, so she could just keep scooting until they collided.

      This is what necessitates her poking her head up like an adorable prairie dog, since until then, all Ethan could see was the side of the chair slowly approaching him.

      (It’s possible I’m wrong, but this will be my head canon regardless)

      • Greenygal
        Greenygal
        March 7, 2017 at 1:37 am | #

        *looks at chair legs* Yeah, there’s nothing to tell us the orientation of Amber’s chair in this strip. I will adopt your headcanon, because Ethan just seeing the chair advance on him is much, much funnier.

      • showler
        showler
        March 7, 2017 at 5:12 am | #

        Works for me.

      • davidbreslin101
        davidbreslin101
        March 7, 2017 at 3:18 pm | #

        I believe the sinking of the Titanic happened in a similar way. (ICEBERG: Hi!)

        • merbrat
          merbrat
          March 8, 2017 at 4:40 am | #

          I just cackled at 3am.

  10. shadowcell
    shadowcell
    March 7, 2017 at 12:07 am | #

    THREEPIO! SHUT DOWN ALL THE GARBAGE MASHERS ON THE DETENTION LEVEL!

    • Danni
      Danni
      March 7, 2017 at 12:08 am | #

      THREEPIO WILL YOU SHUT UP AND LISTEN TO ME!

    • 3oranges
      3oranges
      March 7, 2017 at 12:16 am | #

      And quick-thinking 3PO says to shut down all the garbage mashers, which is why they live despite being a floor below the detention level. Does anyone ever thank him? No, of course not.

      • Reltzik
        Reltzik
        March 7, 2017 at 12:17 am | #

        …. does “You did great!” count as thanks? Because if so…

        • 3oranges
          3oranges
          March 7, 2017 at 1:24 am | #

          I suppose it does a little. I was thinking of something more concrete, like a medal, but I guess even Chewbacca doesn’t get one of those.

          • Emperor Daniel
            Emperor Daniel
            March 7, 2017 at 3:17 am | #

            A medal? But Threepio’s already made of metal!

            …is this the part where I flee for my punning life?

            • Reltzik
              Reltzik
              March 7, 2017 at 3:56 am | #

              No, it’s the part where you flee for your dear pun-stealing life.

      • A Scientist
        A Scientist
        March 7, 2017 at 1:40 am | #

        “Listen to them, they’re dying, Artoo!”

  11. Danni
    Danni
    March 7, 2017 at 12:07 am | #

    scoot near, scoot far, scoot wherever you are

  12. Shiro
    Shiro
    March 7, 2017 at 12:07 am | #

    I’m thinking two of those, a beach umbrella, and a blanket. And snacks. And my 3DS. And that’s my day.

    • Passchendaele
      Passchendaele
      March 7, 2017 at 12:17 am | #

      yesss, that would be awesome. I wouldn’t need to get up (as everything is right there for me), and I could actually relax in private for a change.

      …I guess it’s ironic I’m saying this while in bed and typing this comment by means of my 3DS.

    • Reltzik
      Reltzik
      March 7, 2017 at 12:22 am | #

      …….. so, um, catheter or no catheter?

      • Opus the Poet
        Opus the Poet
        March 7, 2017 at 12:28 am | #

        Oh most definitely catheter.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      March 7, 2017 at 2:47 am | #

      I thin you just soled Becky’s housing problem!

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        March 7, 2017 at 2:48 am | #

        *Think
        (Curse you, touchscreen keyboard.)

  13. Paul
    Paul
    March 7, 2017 at 12:07 am | #

    I must have these chairs.

  14. kater
    kater
    March 7, 2017 at 12:07 am | #

    I miss those chairs more than any other part of my college experience.

  15. Tacos
    Tacos
    March 7, 2017 at 12:08 am | #

    That’s not creepy at all.

    Now go find two more to make a chair Fortress of Solitude.

  16. Passchendaele
    Passchendaele
    March 7, 2017 at 12:08 am | #

    Amber has mastered this subtlety game. *nods*

  17. Stephen Bierce
    Stephen Bierce
    March 7, 2017 at 12:08 am | #

    Just last week Girl Genius had something similar…a bunch of cobblestones being levitated off the street and then going CUBE! by magic.

    • Stephen Bierce
      Stephen Bierce
      March 7, 2017 at 12:10 am | #

      *plays Roberta Flack’s “The Closer I Get To You” on the hacked Muzak*

    • DaveM
      DaveM
      March 7, 2017 at 5:50 am | #

      Not by magic. By SCIENCE! (Well, mad science anyway)

      • Ed Rhodes
        Ed Rhodes
        March 7, 2017 at 6:51 am | #

        “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.” Arthur C. Clarke

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          March 7, 2017 at 7:11 am | #

          “Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.”
          — Gehm’s Corollary

  18. Fart Captor
    Fart Captor
    March 7, 2017 at 12:08 am | #

    All smiles! Yay!

  19. Keulan
    Keulan
    March 7, 2017 at 12:09 am | #

    If I had chairs like those I would definitely do that as well.

  20. Paul
    Paul
    March 7, 2017 at 12:09 am | #

    Where can I buy these chairs?

  21. Kris
    Kris
    March 7, 2017 at 12:10 am | #

    And that day the privacy cube was born!

    • Passchendaele
      Passchendaele
      March 7, 2017 at 12:13 am | #

      It was hailed as a upgrade to the cubicle, and would soon be used in the workplaces and colleges of the land. All according to plan.

  22. jeffepp
    jeffepp
    March 7, 2017 at 12:11 am | #

    Docking complete. Open the air lock.

    • Dana
      Dana
      March 7, 2017 at 1:14 am | #

      Open the pod bay doors, HAL.

      • Cholma
        Cholma
        March 7, 2017 at 1:40 am | #

        I’m afraid I can’t do that, Dana. I only answer to Zhul.
        (Bazinga! Two movie references in one!)

  23. butts
    butts
    March 7, 2017 at 12:11 am | #

    but

    the chair

    i can’t

  24. Grethelwvier
    Grethelwvier
    March 7, 2017 at 12:12 am | #

    Is it just me, or is Ethan absolutely adorable in the last panel? Actually, the whole strip, but especially the last panel?

  25. Plasma Mongoose
    Plasma Mongoose
    March 7, 2017 at 12:17 am | #

    Hope it works better than the cone of silence ever did.

    • TrueVCU
      TrueVCU
      March 7, 2017 at 12:24 am | #

      Can’t be any worse than the cone of shame

      • Plasma Mongoose
        Plasma Mongoose
        March 7, 2017 at 12:42 am | #

        But is it better than the cone of Mary-Jane?

        • TrueVCU
          TrueVCU
          March 7, 2017 at 11:34 am | #

          The cone of mary jane is still inferior to the cone of candy cane

      • A Scientist
        A Scientist
        March 7, 2017 at 1:41 am | #

        I do not like the cone of shame.

        • Clif
          Clif
          March 7, 2017 at 12:06 pm | #

          And you call yourself a scientist.

  26. Bagge
    Bagge
    March 7, 2017 at 12:17 am | #

    Amber has been hanging out with Dina too much. She’s rubbing off on her.

    …wait, why do I say that as if it is a bad thing?

    Dina functions perfectly as an adult and even navigates murky social waters to the best of her ability. If Amber could allow herself to do that without telling herself that Amazi-girl should do it instead it would be a big step forward.

  27. TrueVCU
    TrueVCU
    March 7, 2017 at 12:23 am | #

    Amber is chipper, and I am afraid

    • Clif
      Clif
      March 7, 2017 at 12:10 pm | #

      Let me congratulate you on your dramasavocity.

      ((Words are my servants. They will mean what I damn well want them to mean.))

  28. Pablo360
    Pablo360
    March 7, 2017 at 12:30 am | #

    This seems healthy and normal and not at all worrisome. Carry on.

  29. Arianod
    Arianod
    March 7, 2017 at 12:38 am | #

    I like those chairs.

  30. Barf Ninjason
    Barf Ninjason
    March 7, 2017 at 12:41 am | #

    These chairs really exist at the real version of this college, right? Did anyone ever pull them together like so and then do a sex in them?

    • Emperor Daniel
      Emperor Daniel
      March 7, 2017 at 12:54 am | #

      These chairs are located in the public lounge IIRC, so while it’d be theoretically possible, it’s probably unlikely anyone who tried actually got very far.

      • BBCC
        BBCC
        March 7, 2017 at 1:04 am | #

        Public or not, it gets late and clears out eventually.

        These are college kids – there is nowhere they haven’t gotten frisky at least once.

        • StClair
          StClair
          March 7, 2017 at 9:16 am | #

          A UV light and some Luminol will provide the proof of that.

          The horrible, scarring, “don’t touch anything” proof.

          • Ntrovert
            Ntrovert
            March 7, 2017 at 10:28 am | #

            Don’t drink water, because fish f@ck in it, as the old joke goes…

            • Gwen
              Gwen
              March 7, 2017 at 12:27 pm | #

              But fish don’t actually f@ck, mostly. Just dolphins. Who are creepy about it.

    • Dellaran
      Dellaran
      March 7, 2017 at 12:56 am | #

      That’s a rhetorical question, right?

    • Gryph
      Gryph
      March 7, 2017 at 1:01 am | #

      There is no place, public or private where college students will not at least TRY to have sex, so yes, definitely.

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      March 7, 2017 at 1:08 am | #

      I don’t know but I hope to get the answer in an upcoming slipshine.

  31. Archivist
    Archivist
    March 7, 2017 at 12:56 am | #

    Ethan’s eyes are SO HUGE in this one that for a minute I thought he had Joyce-style eyes in brown instead of the beady black on white, and spent about thirty seconds staring blearily wondering why this felt wrong.

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      March 7, 2017 at 1:01 am | #

      So, one of his earlier character designs then?

  32. BBCC
    BBCC
    March 7, 2017 at 1:03 am | #

    You know those old memes that had checkboxes saying things like ‘I will protect it’ for characters being adorable?

    That’s me with Amber right now.

  33. Thevoiceoftreason
    Thevoiceoftreason
    March 7, 2017 at 1:05 am | #

    Well, that what they’re made for, right? So 2 people could get a little privacy in a public library.

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      March 7, 2017 at 1:15 am | #

      Not the library, the dorm building lobby.

  34. Rukduk
    Rukduk
    March 7, 2017 at 1:22 am | #

    Ok, but how heavy are those chairs? Like, what does it take to scoot them?

    • Reltzik
      Reltzik
      March 7, 2017 at 1:51 am | #

      They weigh a bit less than a sofa. So, not so hard so long as the floor doesn’t grip them.

      • Clif
        Clif
        March 7, 2017 at 12:15 pm | #

        It’s not hard when a lab accident gave you titanium bones.

        ((Quote likely not accurate, but I’m too lazy to search back.))
        But it does raise the question of how many couches Billie weighs.

        • Gwen
          Gwen
          March 7, 2017 at 12:28 pm | #

          Her bones were rendered super-dense in a lab accident (no they weren’t)

          • SgtWadeyWilson
            SgtWadeyWilson
            March 7, 2017 at 1:15 pm | #

            Which makes her perfect for Ruth.

            Her bones were rendered super-broken in a truck accident. (No regrets.)

            *Runs away.*

            • Emperor Daniel
              Emperor Daniel
              March 7, 2017 at 4:21 pm | #

              I thought there was nothing left, but her neck snapped?

            • Rukduk
              Rukduk
              March 7, 2017 at 5:28 pm | #

              *Starts chasing*
              Get back here Wade!! I need to ask you what you thought of your sequel teaser right before “Logan”! Are you going to wear your gravatar’s cowboy hat in the next film?!?

              • SgtWadeyWilson
                SgtWadeyWilson
                March 7, 2017 at 10:29 pm | #

                *Continues running.* Not… huff… actually Wade… puff… just a… fan… wheeze… *Stops.*

                Ugh… It’s hard to decide what to type while running, especially with all those onomatopoeia.

                Anyway, the grav with the hat is based on a character I RP in the Spinnerette comments(long story), it doesn’t even look like the alternate universe cowboy Deadpool in the comics. The teaser was great though, awesome on all levels. Also, I think the Firefly posters in the background were just there to cause rampant speculation.

                *Realises the mob of angry readers is upon him.* Oh, fudgsicles!

  35. Dean
    Dean
    March 7, 2017 at 1:27 am | #

    Having cornered her prey, the Amber begins to feed.

  36. BenRG
    BenRG
    March 7, 2017 at 2:17 am | #

    One thing about Amber: She never leaves her intentions unclear!

    • Clif
      Clif
      March 7, 2017 at 12:18 pm | #

      So enlighten us. What are her intentions here?

      • BenRG
        BenRG
        March 7, 2017 at 3:40 pm | #

        She wants a discussion with Ethan and doesn’t want anyone else observing or listening.

  37. zellgato
    zellgato
    March 7, 2017 at 3:29 am | #

    i’m sure this’ll go well

  38. zathael
    zathael
    March 7, 2017 at 3:36 am | #

    Jaws Theme

  39. Saki
    Saki
    March 7, 2017 at 3:41 am | #

    Before I was all the way through the strip I caught a sight of the hair and thought it was Danny, my brain went wild in the .2 seconds it took me to realize it was actually Amber lmao

    Also total side note bute itswalky.com is down? I wonder what happened there?

    • Keulan
      Keulan
      March 7, 2017 at 4:24 am | #

      Something odd is going on, because I can go to both this site and itswalky.com, but none of the gravatars are loading.

    • Taigan
      Taigan
      March 7, 2017 at 5:42 am | #

      It’s down for me too.

      • Clif
        Clif
        March 7, 2017 at 12:20 pm | #

        itswalky.com has been abducted by aliens but will soon be back with mutant super-powers.

    • DarkoNeko
      DarkoNeko
      March 7, 2017 at 6:45 am | #

      it’s down for me, too.
      My DoA gravatar has been off for a few days already.

      • DarkoNeko
        DarkoNeko
        March 7, 2017 at 6:45 am | #

        oh wait, it’s back :O

        • Clif
          Clif
          March 7, 2017 at 12:22 pm | #

          Dum, dum dum!!!

  40. missilentmurmur
    missilentmurmur
    March 7, 2017 at 4:42 am | #

    Does Ethan ever go to class?

    • ValdVin
      ValdVin
      March 7, 2017 at 7:54 am | #

      Well, what classes is he in?

      The only ones I remember seeing are Gender Studies (many), Intro Comp Sci (Danny, Amber), and whatever Math course Walky is in (along with Joyce, Billie, Sal, +) which Dorothy probably took as AP in HS.

      PS I’m older than Willis, so when I went to college we had declared majors by this time. I have no idea what the youths do today (no kids).

      • missilentmurmur
        missilentmurmur
        March 7, 2017 at 8:14 am | #

        Exactly, I don’t even seem to know his major, and for the last few appearances at least he keeps sitting in hallways.

      • BBCC
        BBCC
        March 7, 2017 at 10:24 am | #

        Walky is a telecommunications major.

        The only ones undeclared are Sal, Ethan, and Joe. Which is fair, because Joe only came for the girls and neither Sal nor Ethan seem to know what they want to do (fair enough, they’re young).

        The only class we’ve ever seen Ethan reference is a lab he has on Thursdays.

        • merbrat
          merbrat
          March 8, 2017 at 4:51 am | #

          Or, when meeting ‘Joshua’ (hoping to take english/writing. Joyce mentioning education like her, etc)

  41. BenRG
    BenRG
    March 7, 2017 at 4:55 am | #

    I’m guessing that Amber is going to ask her oldest friend whether Danny is right. Is everything good about Amazi-Girl something that she gets from Amber?

    • DarkoNeko
      DarkoNeko
      March 7, 2017 at 6:25 am | #

      I can already see it going

      “What do you think about Danny ?”
      “he has a nice butt”
      “damn right he does”

  42. LWS
    LWS
    March 7, 2017 at 6:22 am | #

    You will be assimilated…resistance is futile!

  43. foducool
    foducool
    March 7, 2017 at 7:02 am | #

    that’s how amazigirl makes her fortress of solitude, except it’s a couchfort and there’s someone else in it…
    that metaphor fell apart faster than olaf the snowman in the middle of summer

    • JBento
      JBento
      March 7, 2017 at 8:17 am | #

      The Couchfort of Companionship!

  44. JBento
    JBento
    March 7, 2017 at 8:17 am | #

    So, I hear the Republicans finally unveiled their “replacement” for the ACA. Is it as terrible as feared and expected? How problematic is it?

    • Emperor Norton II
      Emperor Norton II
      March 7, 2017 at 8:39 am | #

      The really short version is: People are going to have to pay more money and get less in return.

      Of course.

      • JBento
        JBento
        March 7, 2017 at 8:59 am | #

        As a bill proposed by Republicans, that was pretty much a given. So, the people who are already struggling under the ACA are completely fucked, some people who made do under the ACA are now struggling, and the people with enough money to not care still don’t care.

        Par du course, I guess.

    • BenRG
      BenRG
      March 7, 2017 at 8:45 am | #

      I’m hearing mutterings of ‘betrayal’ and ‘Obamacare on steroids’ from the extreme right at the moment. I don’t think that they’d be happy with anything than for publicly-guaranteed healthcare to vanish altogether.

      • JBento
        JBento
        March 7, 2017 at 9:03 am | #

        Wouldn’t “Obamacare on steroids” be BETTER than Obamacare in providing affordable medical care? Regardless, that division issss… good? From my understanding, losing 3 “yays” (presuming the Democrat representatives finally engage whatever it is that passes for their spine) is all it takes for the bill not to pass and for the ACA to remain, right? Or are “repealing the ACA” and “enacting this one” two different motions, in which case you could be left without any healthcare benefits at all?

        • Fart Captor
          Fart Captor
          March 7, 2017 at 9:55 am | #

          It’s only better if your priority is providing access to healthcare. Most of the republicans complaining are more concerned with not letting poor people get a free ride. Though a few are actually complaining that it cuts too much.

          The good news is that the republicans are so divided between tearing down the ACA and not being burned at the stake by their constituents that it’s likely they’ll never pass a replacement bill without democratic support.

          The bad news is that they may still unify sufficiently to repeal the ACA with no replacement ready, in hopes that democrats will have no choice but to support their replacement, just to ensure at least SOME people will be able to afford insurance.

          It’s a bit early for concrete predictions though. What (if any) revisions get made to this first draft will provide a good look at exactly what level of madness we’re gonna be dealing with.

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      March 7, 2017 at 10:24 am | #

      The changes are also likely delayed enough that the real damage is unlikely to be felt before the midterms at least, which is strategically good for Republicans.

      Also, “Obamacare on steroids” is only the perspective of the far right and doesn’t actually mean it will be better for people.
      From my earlier quick look: Subsidies are replaced by tax rebates, which apparently apply to everyone? Not going to be enough for the poor to buy in, but will save money for the wealthier who buy insurance. The mandate will go away, but insurance companies will be allowed to charge more if you let insurance lapse and then try to buy back in. Less money for the states that expanded Medicaid.
      The big problem on the macro scale is that it’s likely to push healthy people out of the market and make it hard for them to get back in, which will lead to more premium increases as the risk pool shrinks, driving more people out, etc.

      • Killjoy
        Killjoy
        March 7, 2017 at 12:59 pm | #

        While I’d hope to preserve some of the limits and requirements imposed on the insurance industry, the individual mandate absolutely has to go. There’s no way to drive down the cost of something by forcing everyone to be captive customers.

        Of course, any healthcare reform that doesn’t address the actual costs amounts to the captain of the Titanic going on the PA system and telling the passengers “Attention, the pool is now open! Enjoy!”

        One night in a hospital costs an average of about $4300. Typical charge to the patient for ONE over-the-counter pain pill, $15. ONE pair of disposable gloves, charged to patient, $55. One disposable alcohol swab, charged to patient, $25.

        Or maybe address the issue of “networks”, so that people can retain their doctors, etc, when changing insurance companies.

        • JBento
          JBento
          March 7, 2017 at 1:48 pm | #

          Wait, what? Did you typo that or something? Because that one pair of gloves, for instance, is more expensive than one BOX of gloves over here, and those boxes have, like, ONE THOUSAND gloves.

          • BBCC
            BBCC
            March 7, 2017 at 1:54 pm | #

            Please tell me that’s a typo. A whole box of those here is like a few bucks.

            • JBento
              JBento
              March 7, 2017 at 1:59 pm | #

              Was that for me or Killjoy?

              • BBCC
                BBCC
                March 7, 2017 at 3:17 pm | #

                Killjoy.

                Around here the gloves cost like $14 by the carton, $19 if you want extended cuffs. That’s for the really good sterilized ones. A crappy quick disposable pair costs ….not much. Less than $20.

                • Neeks
                  Neeks
                  March 7, 2017 at 7:30 pm | #

                  I don’t think Killjoy was exaggerating, when I got hit by a car* and ambulanced to the hospital, the invoice for the trip definitely listed a pair of gloves at $50 or so. This was fifteen years ago, but that detail stuck with me. I was still on my dad’s insurance at the time, so we filed a claim and the trip was covered, but iirc hospitals and/or emergency services tend to overcharge for things in hopes/expectation that neither the patient nor insurance company will say “now just hold on a goddamn minute.”

                  *It was a very slow moving car and I only suffered a broken toe that was congenitally deformed to begin with. Also my bike got totalled from being dragged under that poor guy’s car when he pulled over to the side of the road. Also the experience was kind of a nail in the coffin of my ability to rely on my dad, but that’s besides the point that someone definitely tried to charge us $50 for a single pair of gloves.

                • BBCC
                  BBCC
                  March 7, 2017 at 8:16 pm | #

                  YIKES.

                  America, what are you doing?

                  …..Please don’t answer that, anybody, I don’t need to cry today.

        • Pablo360
          Pablo360
          March 7, 2017 at 2:27 pm | #

          The individual mandate is necessary to keep insurance costs low for the people who need it. Basic supply and demand. If only people who are more likely to need big payouts from insurance get insurance — which is what would happen otherwise — then insurance rates would need to be higher because each individual plan would be more likely to cost the insurer money. That’s why you need insurance to drive a car.

          • Li
            Li
            March 7, 2017 at 7:07 pm | #

            This.

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      March 7, 2017 at 10:26 am | #

      Lots of Trumpgrets right now.

      I implore all of the Americans here opposed to this to call their reps and senators and tell them to vote no on this stupidity and that goes double if they’re GOP.

    • Guairdean Beatha
      Guairdean Beatha
      March 7, 2017 at 11:06 am | #

      Considering the serpentine nightmare that the ACA has become, a good hammering out in the house and the senate might end with a decent bill. The current system has left those who hoped for relief under the ACA out in the cold. The prices have gone steadily up while coverage has dropped. I have friends that are already working to pay the fine instead of getting care since the fine is a fraction of the cost of coverage.

      • David M Willis
        David M Willis
        March 7, 2017 at 11:32 am | #

        A good hammering out in the House and Senate is what GAVE us the ACA!

        • Killjoy
          Killjoy
          March 7, 2017 at 12:49 pm | #

          That wasn’t a good hammering… unless you’re using a sexual euphemism. What we ended up with was the “compromise” that the insurance industry wanted, a country full of captive customers required to buy their “service” (speaking of euphemisms) under penalty of law.

          ACA was nothing more and nothing less than corporate welfare for the insurance industry.

          • JBento
            JBento
            March 7, 2017 at 1:46 pm | #

            Considering that the ACA itself was a Republican plan, unsurprising. I’m still convinced that Obama’s pushing of it instead of an actual decent plan was based on the reasoning of “well, THIS one they’ll like, right? Seeing as it was their idea.” Ah, the poor naive fool.

            • thejeff
              thejeff
              March 7, 2017 at 2:39 pm | #

              It was based mostly on “We’ve got some pretty conservative Democratic (and “Independent”) Senators and we need every single one of them, but we really need to do something, therefore we get what they’re willing to accept.” Thank you, Joe Lieberman and Max Baucus.

            • Lailah
              Lailah
              March 7, 2017 at 2:54 pm | #

              Obama himself was fairly conservative, so more likely, it was the solution he liked best regardless.

              • JBento
                JBento
                March 7, 2017 at 3:06 pm | #

                Total and complete aside: OMG you’re here! Either you haven’t posted in like forever or I’ve completely missed your posts, but I was half-afraid something had happened, what with the US being what it is now.

                Glad to see you’re alright (I hope).

                • BBCC
                  BBCC
                  March 7, 2017 at 3:14 pm | #

                  Okay, good, I wasn’t the only one concerned about where she (is that the right pronoun? If not, my apologies) was?

                • Lailah
                  Lailah
                  March 7, 2017 at 3:31 pm | #

                  Mostly, I wasn’t talking because I was pretty sure I wasn’t helping, then stopped reading entirely for a bit. Your concern is welcome, though.

                • Lailah
                  Lailah
                  March 7, 2017 at 3:35 pm | #

                  And yes, She.

                • BBCC
                  BBCC
                  March 7, 2017 at 5:49 pm | #

                  Well, I’m glad you’re okay. <3 I hope you feel better.

              • thejeff
                thejeff
                March 7, 2017 at 3:15 pm | #

                Perhaps, though he did say early in the process that he would have preferred a single-payer approach if starting from scratch. A “public option” was also included in the early versions, but stripped out in Senate.

                • Lailah
                  Lailah
                  March 7, 2017 at 3:27 pm | #

                  True enough. My point is more that it was likely based on the expectations of his base, at best. (Though more likely, it was to look like he was compromising when he got the thing he actually wanted.)

          • Pablo360
            Pablo360
            March 7, 2017 at 2:24 pm | #

            It also gave millions insurance who didn’t have it before, so there’s that.

            • Pablo360
              Pablo360
              March 7, 2017 at 2:25 pm | #

              I’m not saying it’s flawless. Far from it. I just don’t trust its opponents to fix it.

          • Fart Captor
            Fart Captor
            March 7, 2017 at 2:46 pm | #

            Tell that shit to all of the people who are only ALIVE today because the ACA brought insurance within reach, or better yet, to the people who will die if the wrong parts of it get repealed without a proximate replacement.

          • Lailah
            Lailah
            March 7, 2017 at 2:51 pm | #

            The insurance industry did not ‘want’ to be forced to cover people who weren’t profitable. The insurance industry found that better than the alternative of being destroyed by a single payer system, though.

        • Guairdean Beatha
          Guairdean Beatha
          March 7, 2017 at 2:10 pm | #

          The ACA was bought and paid for by the insurance industry, much like the politicians that passed it without reading it. More people are watching now and fewer see it as a cure for all of the nation’s insurance issues. Fortunately, more voters will be looking to see if the “fix” is real, or just another feel good exercise. There is hope, but only if the voters read the bill (instead of relying on the media to tell them what it says) and complain to their representatives when it isn’t in the country’s best interest.

          • Fart Captor
            Fart Captor
            March 7, 2017 at 2:25 pm | #

            Right. If only people would complain to their representatives. Maybe by showing up at town halls (and shaming reps that refuse to hold them), or by flooding them with phone calls, or perhaps by holding protest marches all over the country, with millions of people turning out.

            Also I really don’t know where you were in 2010 if you don’t think people were watching.

            • Guairdean Beatha
              Guairdean Beatha
              March 7, 2017 at 2:44 pm | #

              Yes, people complained. They complained on Facebook, on Reddit, and other social media sites. Were they watching? Yes, they watched CNN, Fox News, and any other outlet that agreed with them. They bought the line that everyone would have insurance, that healthcare would be treated as a protected right, and that the rich would be taxed to pay for it. Oh yeah, they also believed that if they liked their doctor, they could keep their doctor. What they didn’t do is to write their representative and say “Do it right, or I vote for your opponent no matter who that is”. When that happens, elected officials listen.

              • thejeff
                thejeff
                March 7, 2017 at 3:21 pm | #

                No, you really weren’t paying attention. People were paying attention and screaming at their Congresscritters. Unfortunately most of them were screaming about how Obamacare was going to kill grandma and demanding government stay away from their Medicare. That was the year of the Tea Party town halls.
                And then an awful lot of Democrats lost their re-election campaigns because they’d supported it. Not because they hadn’t “Done it Right”, but because they’d tried to do it at all.

                • Lailah
                  Lailah
                  March 7, 2017 at 3:35 pm | #

                  Public opinion has been more on the ACA’s side than the system that preceded it, but the loud folks (who were more likely to vote) absolutely were not, yes. And yes, the manner of that vocal disagreement was primarily ‘how dare the government help the poor’, in many various flavors. Those of us who preferred a single payer system were villified, and remain so.

                • thejeff
                  thejeff
                  March 7, 2017 at 3:56 pm | #

                  Hell, I vastly preferred a single payer system, but how were you planning to get Joe Lieberman to support it?
                  Wasn’t going to happen.

                • Fart Captor
                  Fart Captor
                  March 7, 2017 at 6:37 pm | #

                  Fucking Joe Lieberman is why we can’t have nice things.

          • thejeff
            thejeff
            March 7, 2017 at 3:52 pm | #

            This time around, there’ll be no real fix either. The absolute best that will happen is that the Republicans won’t be able to pull together to pass anything between the “Freedom Caucus” demanding total repeal and a handful of less insane Senators demanding that any changes not make things worse.

            The Republican Party has absolutely no interest in government health care. That’s just another big government entitlement program. It’s actually worse for them if it works and is popular.

            • BBCC
              BBCC
              March 7, 2017 at 5:59 pm | #

              I’m still shook that Rand Paul – Rand fucking Paul, of all people – voted against the repeal. And he’s currently saying he doesn’t think their new bill will pass. YIKES.

              • thejeff
                thejeff
                March 7, 2017 at 9:59 pm | #

                Mind you, he voted against it because he thinks it doesn’t repeal enough of Obamacare. It’s “Obamacare Light”.

                That’s the “Freedom Caucus demanding total repeal part” of their problem.

                • BBCC
                  BBCC
                  March 7, 2017 at 10:27 pm | #

                  I thought he’d said at the time it shouldn’t be repealed because they had no replacement prepared?

      • StClair
        StClair
        March 7, 2017 at 11:40 am | #

        These people are not operating in good faith.

        • Lailah
          Lailah
          March 7, 2017 at 3:32 pm | #

          I’m reasonably confident, to a high degree of certainty, that this isn’t the case.

      • Fart Captor
        Fart Captor
        March 7, 2017 at 1:53 pm | #

        No healthcare reform bill that accomplishes anything substantial was ever going to be perfect from the get-go or have a flawless rollout.

        A bill on that scale was always going to need to be revisited – multiple times – to deal with the bad ideas, unforeseen problems, and to head off future problems made apparent after implementation.

        If the GOP had cared about more than their team “winning”, we could have been working on those improvements for almost six years. Their refusal to cooperate to make it work is why many of the problems they complain about still exist. And now they want to start over from scratch. Any bill they pass that doesn’t rely heavily on what is already in place will simply run into a totally new set of issues. Though at this point, it looks like “reducing the number of Americans who can afford healthcare” will be considered a feature, not a bug.

        It’s also worth noting that despite its many issues, Republican obstruction, and outright sabotage by Republican governors, the ACA still has a higher approval rating than Congress.

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          March 7, 2017 at 3:13 pm | #

          Very much so. Most large complex bills in the past have required technical fixes as problems arose following their implementation. A recent example was the Medicare Part D prescription drug coverage passed under Bush. Democrats opposed it, but cooperated to make it work after the fact.

          In this case, Republicans have prevented any such fixes from happening for political advantage and now they’re stuck with it. They have to either fix the thing they’ve been demonizing for 6 years or kick millions off of coverage.

          • JBento
            JBento
            March 7, 2017 at 3:18 pm | #

            You mean, admit they were wrong or risk the death of poor people they don’t know? I await the resolution with bated breath.

            • thejeff
              thejeff
              March 7, 2017 at 3:55 pm | #

              Well, tweak it and claim it as their own while never admitting anything or risk a voter backlash from those that do rely on it.

              A more cynical, but more difficult choice. 🙂

  45. JasonAW3
    JasonAW3
    March 7, 2017 at 8:52 am | #

    I want those CHAIRS!

  46. Mitchiesue
    Mitchiesue
    March 7, 2017 at 10:06 am | #

    OMG! This, more than anything else in this comic (like failing classes and being in denial about it, having my beliefs in religion questioned, etc.), reminds me of college!!! My boyfriend and I would push the high-walled couches in the Student Union together and hang our or take a nap between classes or until my ride came. I’m pretty sure people hated us.

  47. Sarah
    Sarah
    March 7, 2017 at 11:26 am | #

    I wanted her to be Danny. :/

  48. trlkly
    trlkly
    March 7, 2017 at 12:44 pm | #

    Is Amber not wearing her glasses?

  49. calvsie
    calvsie
    March 7, 2017 at 1:04 pm | #

    What is it about university spaces having weird chairs? UW Eau Claire recently remodeled one building and now it has a bean bag chair pit and benches that look like sonice the hedge hog loop-de-loo’s

    • Liliaeth
      Liliaeth
      March 7, 2017 at 2:55 pm | #

      It looks good in photographs?

  50. chris73
    chris73
    March 7, 2017 at 2:06 pm | #

    Happy Amber makes me smile…so of course its all down hill from here

    • Clif
      Clif
      March 7, 2017 at 4:13 pm | #

      Once you’re over the hill, you pick up speed.

  51. BP
    BP
    March 7, 2017 at 4:22 pm | #

    Evidently my birthday present this year is a friendship chairboat. 😀

  52. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    March 7, 2017 at 11:58 pm | #

    Makes me wonder how many students used a pair of these chairs as a makeout spot

    • Kernanator
      Kernanator
      March 8, 2017 at 12:19 am | #

      My guess? A lot.

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