Dumbing of Age Book Twelve

Dumbing of Age

A college webcomic by David Willis
RSS
‹
›
  • Home
  • About/Read before posting
  • Archive↓
    • by calendar
  • Cast
  • Store↓
    • Main Store (books and stuff)
    • T-shirts
  • Patreon↓
    • Patreon (regular)
    • Patreon (NSFW)
  • Facebook
  • Instagram
Floor
First Previous Random 194Comments Share Next Latest
Reddit Digg Facebook MySpace Delicious Stumbleupon Buzz Up! Mixx Technorati Google Bookmarks Yahoo Bookmarks Yahoo MyWeb Windows Live Propeller FriendFeed Newsvine Xanga LinkedIn Blinklist Twitter
Discover more Hiveworks comics
Guilded Age
T Campbell, John Waltrip, Florence Machina
Welcome to the saga of the working-class adventurer! Enjoy the complete story with new annotations daily!
Dumbing of Age
David M Willis
Joyce has been homeschooled her entire life until now, when she's suddenly a freshman in college! Things don't go well.
Cyanide & Happiness
Explosm
Satire, dark humor and surreal humor.
Hemlock
Josceline Fenton
A witch accidentally marries a monster, and now she and her familiar has to navigate life around her monstrous husband and her even more terrifying in-laws.
Paint the Town Red
Windy, Winter Jay Kiakas
Winona runs a werewolf shelter with partner in crime, Odile in the Gothic city of Merlot. One day they take in an injured vampire, and soon unravels many of the dark secrets of Merlot.
No End
Erli, Kromi
A queer romance about people attempting to build lives in a cold, post-apocalyptic world ravaged by hordes of undead.
All Known Alternatives
Karolina 'Kajotko' Jankiewicz
Akane has only one way to get back home: collect the 42 keys to parallel worlds. Eri and Ben are just trying to get through the summer before university. When a magical key turns up in an old spare set, all three are forced to change their plans and fast.
BOOKMARK
Click "Tag Page" to bookmark a page. When you return to the site, click "Goto Tag" to continue where you left off.
Goto TagClear Tag


BUFFER WATCH Comics are currently drawn and uploaded through:

June 14, 2026

Floor

by David M Willis on April 21, 2011 at 12:01 am
  • 04 - The Bechdel Test
└ Tags: ethan, joyce, mike

Discussion (194) ¬

[ Comments RSS ]
  1. Jen Aside
    Jen Aside
    April 21, 2011 at 12:01 am | #

    Mike’s been strangely quiet… and squinty.

    • Derek
      Derek
      December 14, 2011 at 11:27 pm | #

      Mike’s trying to make friends. That’s why he’s been keeping his mouth shut.

      • DarkVeghetta
        DarkVeghetta
        June 19, 2015 at 9:24 pm | #

        BLASPHEMY. Mike is merely plotting. ALWAYS plotting.

  2. David Herbert
    David Herbert
    April 21, 2011 at 12:01 am | #

    Is she crushing on Ethan? Oh dear, this can’t be good.

    • Heavy E
      Heavy E
      April 21, 2011 at 12:14 am | #

      This is going to end awesome!

      • calendarman27
        calendarman27
        April 21, 2011 at 12:54 am | #

        the absolute best part, is that Ethan is so damn polite, he’ll indulge her and even marry her eventually just to spare her feelings

        • Rognik
          Rognik
          April 21, 2011 at 1:03 am | #

          Maybe not THAT far, but yeah, this could be a major plot for a while.

      • Captain Patch
        Captain Patch
        April 21, 2011 at 2:44 pm | #

        Gay and Jewish, how is she going to handle this one? Mike’s fists may not endure the onslaught that shall result.

        • Shift
          Shift
          April 21, 2011 at 2:58 pm | #

          I honestly think Mike not get physically involved. Instead he might try and make think that Ethan is totally in love with her, so that way, when the realization that he’s gay dawns on her, Mike can have a front row seat to the meltdown.

          • Random Webcomics Junkie
            Random Webcomics Junkie
            April 24, 2011 at 5:35 pm | #

            I don’t see that happening, actually. Mike is a jerk, but he’s not evil. Breaking innocent Joyce’s heart isn’t his style. He’ll think the whole thing is hilarious and might even orchestrate the come-out at a crucial moment, but I really don’t think he’d actively try to convince her Ethan was in love with her.

            Not that he’d need to. Joyce still doesn’t know the difference between a crush and twue love.

            • DarkVeghetta
              DarkVeghetta
              June 19, 2015 at 9:26 pm | #

              Why act when they’ll hang themselves? Mike just needs to observe and enjoy.

          • Usayasha
            Usayasha
            December 31, 2011 at 12:29 am | #

            I think that Mike should DEFINITELY get physically involved. With Ethan. For a nickel. With his penis.
            Then they’ll get married, adopt a kid, and Ethan will be a mommy. It all fits together in the grand scheme of things.

    • DragonWings
      DragonWings
      April 21, 2011 at 12:29 am | #

      It all depends. If Ethan is gay in this comic, it’s gonna be interesting as hell.

      • Coppermouth
        Coppermouth
        April 21, 2011 at 1:36 am | #

        Congratulations, DragonWings, you’ve been tweeted about.

      • Loki
        Loki
        April 21, 2011 at 1:37 am | #

        IF Ethan is gay? Have you read the last few comics at ALL?!!

        • DrDVD
          DrDVD
          April 21, 2011 at 2:49 am | #

          asking if ethan is gay is like asking if mike is impolite

          • Aydr
            Aydr
            April 22, 2011 at 5:01 am | #

            o_O Is amazi-girl criticizing herself?

            • DrDVD
              DrDVD
              April 22, 2011 at 3:54 pm | #

              amazi-girl is saving the day

      • Shift
        Shift
        April 21, 2011 at 4:25 am | #

        Umm… yeah, you might want to read the character bios DragonWings.

        • James
          James
          April 21, 2011 at 11:17 am | #

          Or, you know, the last week or so of comics.

          • DarkVeghetta
            DarkVeghetta
            June 19, 2015 at 9:28 pm | #

            Or just take ONE look at Ethan, at ANY point in time.

  3. Gnoka
    Gnoka
    April 21, 2011 at 12:02 am | #

    I think Mike’s trying to warn him that Joyce is crazy.

    • Rognik
      Rognik
      April 21, 2011 at 1:10 am | #

      Actually, I think it’s more of a “What are you doing? Why are you leading her on?” If Joyce had decided to hit on Mike, and he was gay (not saying that he isn’t), Mike would shoot her down there and then. Instead, Joyce will be going to her room to write “Mr. and Mrs. Ethan Siegal” on her notebook.

      • Eolirin
        Eolirin
        April 21, 2011 at 1:42 am | #

        No he wouldn’t. He’d shoot her down whenever was most appropriate to cause the maximum amount of suffering.

      • TheStranger
        TheStranger
        April 21, 2011 at 1:50 am | #

        Eh, I’d think Mike would actually approve of leading her on, knowing that the crushing-of-souls would be the payoff.

        • Jonny The Eyepatch
          Jonny The Eyepatch
          April 21, 2011 at 3:14 am | #

          He’d probably take her all the way to the altar, -then- break it to her. This -is- Mike we’re talking about.

        • James
          James
          April 21, 2011 at 8:32 pm | #

          This is Mike. He’d do or say something specifically to make Ethan feel like a douche for leading on Joyce, but also disrupt any attempts on Ethan’s part of come clean until the worst possible moment.

          And he’d manage to involve Joe, Sal, or Robin as well as some sort of alleged love triangle. Cause… Mike.

    • AndysDrawings
      AndysDrawings
      April 21, 2011 at 4:08 am | #

      He’s trying to decide whether Ethan has actually noticed Joyce was interested or not. This will determine his course of evil.

    • Björn
      Björn
      April 21, 2011 at 6:00 am | #

      He’s got that look that says “You! You’re supposed to be GAY!”

      OK, not really, but I just wanted an excuse to link to that page.

    • creativerealms
      creativerealms
      April 21, 2011 at 8:07 am | #

      But that would be very un-mike like of him.

    • Deimir
      Deimir
      April 21, 2011 at 10:09 am | #

      Mike is angry (well, specfically, angry at Ethan at this particular moment) because he knows how this potential relationship will turn out, and he thinks that Ethan is horning in on his soul-crushing action!

  4. Cha
    Cha
    April 21, 2011 at 12:03 am | #

    Mike’s trying to warn you, Ethan. Didn’t your mother teach you not to talk to strangers?

  5. Paranoia
    Paranoia
    April 21, 2011 at 12:03 am | #

    That face Joyce is making…oh my.

    • Henry
      Henry
      April 21, 2011 at 12:37 am | #

      Her faaaaaaaaaace?

      • Undrave
        Undrave
        April 21, 2011 at 1:21 am | #

        FAAAAAACE!

  6. Katosen27
    Katosen27
    April 21, 2011 at 12:04 am | #

    Oh dear…an overly religious girl is crushing on a gay guy.

    This will not end well.

    • Ragnal
      Ragnal
      April 21, 2011 at 12:13 am | #

      Hilarity must ensue. For when a quirky situation is in your hands, it is law to run with it as comedy.

    • George
      George
      April 21, 2011 at 12:39 am | #

      A gay Jewish guy, at that.

      • ShireNomad
        ShireNomad
        April 21, 2011 at 1:42 am | #

        What is it with her and Jewish guys in this universe?

        • taekwondogirl
          taekwondogirl
          April 21, 2011 at 1:49 am | #

          Well the guy she wants to marry would fit the description of a mensch.

        • Shift
          Shift
          April 21, 2011 at 4:37 am | #

          Well, for Joyce, not accepting Jesus as their savior and as the son of God is rather bad. So, anyone of the Jewish persuasion would be essentially “the bad boy”.

          And you know that stereotype about woman and how they are supposed to always want the “Bad Boy/rebel” and think “I can change him”?

          Well, Jewish Guys are the nearest sort of thing in regards to that stereotype that Joyce probably can handle.

        • Lokitsu
          Lokitsu
          April 21, 2011 at 7:25 pm | #

          “Once you try Jew, you’ll never be through
          …trying Jew”

          Err- that worked out much better in my head.

      • Björn
        Björn
        April 21, 2011 at 6:02 am | #

        Are any of the girls Jewish, or have we only heard about guys yet?

        • Lokitsu
          Lokitsu
          April 21, 2011 at 7:45 pm | #

          That’s a good question. I can’t think of any female jewish characters and I’ve been reading since IW

      • Engelfire
        Engelfire
        May 19, 2011 at 6:56 pm | #

        It’s like she’s magnetically attracted to people that are incompatible with her.

    • Shift
      Shift
      April 21, 2011 at 4:27 am | #

      I hope when Joyce tries to hang out with Ethan, she doesn’t bring Mike as a chaperon. Cuz, when she finds out he’s spent the entire night checking out Mike or other guys, the resulting beatings he’ll suffer from the both of them could be a considered a hate crime.

      Of course with Mike, he hates everyone so, that’s kinda moot.

  7. nitpicker
    nitpicker
    April 21, 2011 at 12:04 am | #

    Dear lord. It’ll take us 3 years just to finish with storylines of Joyce crushing on the entire male cast, sequentially.

    • Henry
      Henry
      April 21, 2011 at 12:38 am | #

      Except, at this rate, Walky.

    • Lokitsu
      Lokitsu
      April 21, 2011 at 7:26 pm | #

      3 years real time, week and a half comic time.

      Joyce, what a tramp.

  8. kagato23
    kagato23
    April 21, 2011 at 12:05 am | #

    Oh man… Poor Dumb universe Joyce.

    Meeting an Athesist broke her temporarily.

    What will happen when her luvvvv can’t cure gay?

    • AndysDrawings
      AndysDrawings
      April 21, 2011 at 4:09 am | #

      She’ll just get Jesus to do it!

    • Björn
      Björn
      April 21, 2011 at 6:06 am | #

      Maybe Ethan can be flexible so long as it isn’t with Robin.

      (Yeah, I know Ethan hadn’t realized he was gay at that point. But he sure seemed to enjoy it nonetheless. I think he’s a bit bi.)

    • DaniellePhantom
      DaniellePhantom
      April 21, 2011 at 12:12 pm | #

      i’m going to be really upset if we find out joyce is a homophobe.

      • calendarman27
        calendarman27
        April 21, 2011 at 5:32 pm | #

        if she didn’t hate dorothy for being athiest or joe for being jewish, she most likely won’t hate ethan for liking the dudes, she might try to “save” him or “rehabillitate” him, but thats a whole other set of problems.

        • Shift
          Shift
          April 21, 2011 at 7:47 pm | #

          Agreed. She’ll probably say a lot of really offensive stuff, but it won’t be with the intent of being cruel, but rather her just parroting everything she was taught growing up. She’ll probably alienate Ethan, but all with the intent of “saving his soul” and trying to get him to go to one of those “straight camps”

          • DaniellePhantom
            DaniellePhantom
            April 22, 2011 at 12:14 am | #

            what’s a “straight camp”?

            • Shift
              Shift
              April 22, 2011 at 3:29 am | #

              It’s a camp often run by assorted religious groups that try and force gay men and/or woman into being straight. They use the method of “pray the gay away”.

              Most of these camps are aimed at gay teenagers, and they are forced into go by their family. But there are others that are aimed at self-loathing gay adults.

              Essentially they try and force their campers into denying who they really are with judgment and inducing self-hatred. Although there are those who claim success stories about “learning to be straight” they are few and far between.

            • Yue Ryong
              Yue Ryong
              October 4, 2012 at 10:08 pm | #

              …Russell Brand?

  9. turkishproverb
    turkishproverb
    April 21, 2011 at 12:05 am | #

    You can just tell Mike is trying to find the best way to incorporate Ethan into breaking Joyce’s mind completely.

    Mind you, I still maintain that Mike is a multiversal Singularity.

  10. arjay2813
    arjay2813
    April 21, 2011 at 12:05 am | #

    everyone seems to be setting themselves up perfectly to be messed w/by mike in some way. its amazing how you’ve managed that

    • Henry
      Henry
      April 21, 2011 at 12:39 am | #

      The reason we have yet to see Ninja Rick so far is because they’ve been combined here. Now Ninja Mike is sneaking into everyone’s lives. And then being Mike.

  11. MadarFoxfire
    MadarFoxfire
    April 21, 2011 at 12:06 am | #

    The faces (FAAAAAAACES?) in panel three are glorious. Ethan does not know what he has wrought.

  12. Hello, Mr. Anderson
    Hello, Mr. Anderson
    April 21, 2011 at 12:06 am | #

    Mike knows.

    • AndysDrawings
      AndysDrawings
      April 21, 2011 at 4:09 am | #

      … what evil lurks in the hearts of men?

  13. Merco
    Merco
    April 21, 2011 at 12:07 am | #

    I feel like Mike is about to sneeze or something in the last panel. Is he allergic to Joyce? That wouldn’t surprise me.

  14. RaijinK
    RaijinK
    April 21, 2011 at 12:07 am | #

    Never mind the gay thing, what is it with Joyce and jewish guys now?

  15. JackNapier
    JackNapier
    April 21, 2011 at 12:08 am | #

    Joyce is in for a rude awakening (again).

  16. Tarpo
    Tarpo
    April 21, 2011 at 12:09 am | #

    Eagerly awaiting the Joyce trying to cure Ethan of The Gay arc.

    • ProtonCon
      ProtonCon
      April 21, 2011 at 12:18 am | #

      But isn’t the curing of the gay ideal is he needs to get laid to ungay?

      • Seerow
        Seerow
        April 21, 2011 at 12:45 am | #

        Which makes it even more interesting. Will Joyce see it as the lesser of two evils to have pre-marital sex to save an otherwise good guys soul from hell? Only time will tell!

        Disclaimer: My comment is meant from Joyce’s perspective and does not reflect my personal views on any individual’s sexual preferences. No I don’t think you’re actually going to hell. No, I don’t think that being gay counts as a strike against you being a good person.

        • JDX
          JDX
          April 21, 2011 at 12:50 am | #

          I saw that movie. Real funny. Called Saved.

          [Seriously, that’s the premise. Religious girl has sex with guy to turn him straight cos’ Jesus told her to, fails, ends up pregnant.]

          • Maveric1984
            Maveric1984
            April 21, 2011 at 1:06 am | #

            “But I’m a Cheerleader!” is another good movie in the same vein. Of course part of the pleasure was at the gay camp one of the boys made me say “hey I know that voice… That’s Zuko!”

            • daughterofthestars
              daughterofthestars
              April 21, 2011 at 8:36 am | #

              I appreciate this comment more than you know. And now I want to watch that movie.

          • Janette
            Janette
            April 22, 2011 at 12:38 am | #

            That is a great move. 😀

      • George
        George
        April 21, 2011 at 12:50 am | #

        While Saved! was a great movie, the real “solution” tends to involve more electricity and mental trauma and fewer pool-induced hallucinations.

        • Lokitsu
          Lokitsu
          April 21, 2011 at 7:31 pm | #

          “Now, you can either have sex with Mandy Moore or we can subject you to a series of electric shocks, your choice.”

  17. addude
    addude
    April 21, 2011 at 12:11 am | #

    Well at least this time Joyce doesn’t have to worry about the guy trying to get into her pants

    • Peace in Our Time
      Peace in Our Time
      April 21, 2011 at 12:14 am | #

      unless this universe’s Ethan is in to crossdressing…

      • Lokitsu
        Lokitsu
        April 21, 2011 at 7:32 pm | #

        Doubtful, unless Joyce has a Batgirl costume.

  18. Kamino Neko
    Kamino Neko
    April 21, 2011 at 12:18 am | #

    Goddess, the look on Mike’s face…

  19. Matt of Steel
    Matt of Steel
    April 21, 2011 at 12:27 am | #

    Ethan uses being male on Joyce. It’s super effective!
    Joyce uses being female on Ethan. It has no effect.

    Mike uses nickel on your mom. Holy crap … that’s effective.

    • Ridureyu
      Ridureyu
      April 21, 2011 at 1:45 am | #

      Joyce faints!

  20. Plasma Mongoose
    Plasma Mongoose
    April 21, 2011 at 12:41 am | #

    Mike going to have an embolism if this keeps up.

  21. Janette
    Janette
    April 21, 2011 at 12:41 am | #

    Now she’ll cure him of homosexuality.

    And fail. Miserably. And make more funny faces.

    • Plasma Mongoose
      Plasma Mongoose
      April 21, 2011 at 2:15 am | #

      The best way to cure is by using salt or smoke.

      • begbert2
        begbert2
        April 21, 2011 at 10:56 am | #

        I know how you do it with smoke, but how do you kill somebody with salt?

        • Ancestral Hamster
          Ancestral Hamster
          April 21, 2011 at 12:38 pm | #

          Not to put words in Plasma Mongoose’s mouth, but if you forcefeed enough salt to the victim the dehydration (caused by increased urination as the body tries to rid itself of the salt) will kill them eventually.

          The non-fiction book Unbroken involved the subject and two of the surviving flight crew being adrift in the south Pacific in WWII, the author explained why one can’t drink salt water. The body gets X amount of water, but uses (roughly) 2X in getting rid of the salt. [That’s not exact since my copy isn’t handy.]

          • Rognik
            Rognik
            April 21, 2011 at 4:51 pm | #

            I hate to explain a joke, but I believe Plasma Mongoose was referring to curing meat, ie. preserving it. Salted meat is one way to cure it, and smoked meat is another. Thus, we will be curing Ethan with salt and smoke.

            • Ancestral Hamster
              Ancestral Hamster
              April 21, 2011 at 7:01 pm | #

              Yes, I know, but begbert2 was asking about how to kill with salt.

              Originally I was going to add a cannibalism joke to my previous comment. That might have prevented the confusion.

              “Donner, party of twenty?” “Donner, party of sixteen?” “Donner, party of fourteen?” …

              • Rognik
                Rognik
                April 25, 2011 at 12:00 am | #

                A possibility.
                On the cannibalism, though: “You’re too late. Everyone’s eaten.”

            • Plasma Mongoose
              Plasma Mongoose
              April 21, 2011 at 8:58 pm | #

              You are correct, I was hoping that someone would catch my meaning.

          • Plasma Mongoose
            Plasma Mongoose
            April 21, 2011 at 8:57 pm | #

            I did wonder at times why salt water was bad for you and you answered that question quite nicely.

      • Lokitsu
        Lokitsu
        April 21, 2011 at 7:34 pm | #

        The problem with smoke or salt curing is they tend to be jerks afterwards.

        • Plasma Mongoose
          Plasma Mongoose
          April 21, 2011 at 9:00 pm | #

          More jerky than jerk anyway. ^_^

  22. DiDi
    DiDi
    April 21, 2011 at 12:47 am | #

    This could be either really funny or really sad.

    Religion aside, it’s likely to crush her. I’m certain of it.

  23. Jetstream
    Jetstream
    April 21, 2011 at 12:50 am | #

    You magnificent bastard! You’re delaying the mind shattering, while making it even more deliciously squicky!

  24. K
    K
    April 21, 2011 at 12:51 am | #

    I’m going to be optimistic and assume this will be a good growing experience for Joyce… and hilarious.

  25. Gabe
    Gabe
    April 21, 2011 at 1:02 am | #

    M-m-mix those messages like a DJ Ethan!

  26. Yitz
    Yitz
    April 21, 2011 at 1:02 am | #

    This… this is a problem.

    • goatman95111
      goatman95111
      April 21, 2011 at 1:35 am | #

      This will be either sad, or funny as hell. Or it will be sad, with the intent of driving Joyce closer to Walky.

      • Shift
        Shift
        April 21, 2011 at 4:33 am | #

        Or just really awkward, depending on how Joyce reacts. I mean if she goes off on the “evils” of man-man loving when she finds out the truth…

        • Plasma Mongoose
          Plasma Mongoose
          April 21, 2011 at 9:03 pm | #

          Personaly, I would like her to become a Christain Yaoi Fangirl, but somehow I don’t believe that wish will come true.

          • Shift
            Shift
            April 24, 2011 at 2:46 am | #

            For some reason that makes me think of Fan Fictions involving Jesus and St. Peter giving into boy-boy lust the night before the last supper.

            Excuse me. Satan is here and he’s got a hand-basket nicely decorated for me.

  27. wnderjif
    wnderjif
    April 21, 2011 at 1:13 am | #

    i wonder, does the bechdel test fail if one or both parties is a hermaprodite/surgicallay changed gender person?

  28. Breeze
    Breeze
    April 21, 2011 at 1:16 am | #

    I can tell I’m tired, because I missed the crush subtext and thought Mike was giving Ethan that look because Ethan made up his last name (even though the Cast page tells me he didn’t, which makes this line of thought even more ridiculous).

    I should probably be sleeping instead of doing my homework…

    • Undrave
      Undrave
      April 21, 2011 at 1:26 am | #

      Nah Mike just never cared to learn Ethan’s family name and just heard it for the first time and he’s confused about how it sounds like ‘seagull’… or he thinks Ethan is related to Steven Segal, which is just as troubling if not more.

  29. knowwonattawl
    knowwonattawl
    April 21, 2011 at 1:34 am | #

    AND SO IT BEGINS!

  30. Wigmy
    Wigmy
    April 21, 2011 at 1:41 am | #

    Wow she is having terrible luck finding Mr. Christian Husband, first Joe who is Jewish and now Ethan who is Jewish and Gay. College is going to have a fun impact on her, that is if she doesn’t have a nervous breakdown first.

    • TheStranger
      TheStranger
      April 21, 2011 at 1:47 am | #

      Next effort: Jewish and transgender.

      • Viktoria
        Viktoria
        April 21, 2011 at 2:15 am | #

        Atheist and Female.

        Or, somewhat more likely and worse for her long-term mental health, Mike.

        • TheStranger
          TheStranger
          April 21, 2011 at 5:19 am | #

          So, what, Atheist and Asshole?

          • begbert2
            begbert2
            April 21, 2011 at 10:58 am | #

            Mike believes whatever will bother you most.

            • Zachinhat
              Zachinhat
              April 21, 2011 at 1:16 pm | #

              Scientology?

  31. Joebo
    Joebo
    April 21, 2011 at 1:41 am | #

    Called it, hilarity may now ensue.

  32. Sporkaganza
    Sporkaganza
    April 21, 2011 at 1:46 am | #

    I always thought it was Siegel. I guess it doesn’t really make a lot of difference, though.

  33. Parismio
    Parismio
    April 21, 2011 at 1:49 am | #

    Ah, wow. mike looks like he’s givin the” Wtf dude why are you leading her on” face. Either that or it’s the “Dude your world is about to get fucked in the faaaaaace for a nickel…..also I did your mom”.

  34. Lee
    Lee
    April 21, 2011 at 1:51 am | #

    I sense impending disaster. Let the train wreck commence.

  35. ProtonCon
    ProtonCon
    April 21, 2011 at 1:54 am | #

    In super strict terms I don’t think the bible says anything about dating a gay guy. Oh sure it frowns upon being gay but…

    • daughterofthestars
      daughterofthestars
      April 21, 2011 at 8:39 am | #

      Sure, there’s nothing wrong with dating him, but remember the importance of babies.

  36. shoeboxjeddy
    shoeboxjeddy
    April 21, 2011 at 2:00 am | #

    Ha ha ha, she is so barking up the wrong trees. If Faz exists in DOA, I’m guessing she’ll give him a shot after she figures out some interesting facts about Ethan…

    • Rognik
      Rognik
      April 21, 2011 at 10:16 am | #

      Some things are just too cruel, though…

    • Ancestral Hamster
      Ancestral Hamster
      April 21, 2011 at 12:41 pm | #

      Heh heh heh. How evil …

  37. Kater
    Kater
    April 21, 2011 at 2:15 am | #

    Oh Mike… It’s like a train is about to crash into a preschool for rabbits and you’re the only one who can see it.

    Time for Popcorn

  38. Plasma Mongoose
    Plasma Mongoose
    April 21, 2011 at 2:19 am | #

    What better way to find out which way Ethan swings by having him & Joyce go out with each other.

    • Shift
      Shift
      April 21, 2011 at 4:29 am | #

      You do know that it’s already been established that Ethan swings towards the male-male persuasion, as explicitly stated in the characters bios for DOA, right?

      • TheStranger
        TheStranger
        April 21, 2011 at 5:19 am | #

        Never mind the Ethan-and-Amber conversation from the other day.

      • Plasma Mongoose
        Plasma Mongoose
        April 21, 2011 at 7:48 am | #

        I meant to say is; What better way for everyone to find out which way Ethan swings than to have him and Joyce date?

        • Shift
          Shift
          April 21, 2011 at 3:05 pm | #

          Again… everyone KNOWS which way he swings. He even stated it in the comic “I’m Gay”.

          • Plasma Mongoose
            Plasma Mongoose
            April 21, 2011 at 9:12 pm | #

            I know he came out of the closet in Shortpacked! but as far as I am aware, he hasn’t done so yet in DoA or did I miss a comic somewhere?

            • John
              John
              April 21, 2011 at 9:41 pm | #

              you missed a comic somewhere. Like, last week. Where he yelled he was gay.

            • Shift
              Shift
              April 22, 2011 at 3:33 am | #

              Yeah, you definitely missed a comic where he’s says “I’m Gay”: http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/04-the-bechdel-test/awkward/

          • f.p.
            f.p.
            April 23, 2011 at 2:40 am | #

            Who knows. In the Walkyverse Ethan started out as evidently straight, and then finding out the he’s actually gay. Maybe this one starts out evidently gay and finds out he’s straight? Willis isn’t above doing somethig like that just to screw with us.

            Plus, why is Ethan making Walky eyes at Joyce?

  39. Locke
    Locke
    April 21, 2011 at 2:40 am | #

    Mike is internally grappling with allowing Ethan to fall into the crazy trap, causing him anguish, or berate him for missing the signs that Joyce might be crushing on him, making all future encounters with her painfully awkward, thus causing him anguish. Or Mike just wants to punch Ethan for talking crap about him. Probably the latter.

  40. luke
    luke
    April 21, 2011 at 3:24 am | #

    I’m curious if she’ll try to get Mike to attack him too =X

  41. Heather
    Heather
    April 21, 2011 at 3:49 am | #

    I’m starting to wonder if Joyce will ask him to ‘hang out’ and Ethan will assume she means in a friendship capacity.

    Joyce thinks his lack of interest in other ladies and lack of pushing for sex endearing.

    Then she eventually decides to take the initative and kisses/tries to kiss him. Awkwardness insues.

    • Heather
      Heather
      April 21, 2011 at 3:50 am | #

      Or alternatively Ethan asks HER to hang out and she jumps to conclusions.

      • Ancestral Hamster
        Ancestral Hamster
        April 21, 2011 at 3:10 pm | #

        Joyce doesn’t jump to Conclusions, she lives there.

        • Lokitsu
          Lokitsu
          April 21, 2011 at 7:38 pm | #

          Well said.

          • Ancestral Hamster
            Ancestral Hamster
            April 21, 2011 at 9:09 pm | #

            Thank you!

  42. Zem
    Zem
    April 21, 2011 at 3:56 am | #

    What’s wrong with being called Siegal?

    • Tristan J
      Tristan J
      April 21, 2011 at 4:41 am | #

      EVERYTHING

  43. Syd
    Syd
    April 21, 2011 at 4:12 am | #

    Maybe Mike will chaperon their date.

    Expect much face punching.

  44. Shift
    Shift
    April 21, 2011 at 4:32 am | #

    So is this going to be a regular thing? Joyce tries to date every guys in the cast, until at last she’s gone through them all and the only person left willing to deal with her and straight is Walky?

    I know that a woman who sleeps with every guy they meet is considered a slut. And a girl who goes out with every guy and tempts them with sex, but never actually does it, is considered a cock tease. But what do you call a woman who tries to date every guy she meets in the hopes of marriage, all the while never offering up any hint of sexual interest and trying to convert you to their faith?

    • DigiM29
      DigiM29
      April 21, 2011 at 5:59 am | #

      A missionary.

    • Random dude
      Random dude
      April 21, 2011 at 6:08 am | #

      You call her Joyce.

    • The Aussie Bloke
      The Aussie Bloke
      April 21, 2011 at 6:49 am | #

      Crazy

    • rali
      rali
      April 21, 2011 at 6:56 am | #

      crazy 😀

    • Roborat
      Roborat
      April 21, 2011 at 2:57 pm | #

      Alone. . . forever

    • Pat
      Pat
      May 3, 2011 at 1:57 pm | #

      You don’t need a name for a category that has one person in it.

  45. Chickalupe
    Chickalupe
    April 21, 2011 at 6:03 am | #

    Mike’s face in the last panel says, “What are ya, stupid or sumthin’?” much better than words ever could.

  46. RabidBunny
    RabidBunny
    April 21, 2011 at 7:01 am | #

    ……a Madam for Jesus?

  47. Kelsey
    Kelsey
    April 21, 2011 at 7:33 am | #

    OH NO. SHE HAS THAT LOOK.

    • Matt_M
      Matt_M
      April 21, 2011 at 9:41 am | #

      na na na na na
      na na na na na
      na-na na na na na
      na na na na na
      na-na na na na na
      She’s got the look

      • Loki
        Loki
        April 21, 2011 at 11:17 am | #

        Tasty like a raindrop, she’s got the look

      • Kamino Neko
        Kamino Neko
        April 21, 2011 at 6:55 pm | #

        … Damn you.

  48. Bryn
    Bryn
    April 21, 2011 at 8:28 am | #

    Mike shows Ethan his Popeye impression!

  49. Animal
    Animal
    April 21, 2011 at 9:18 am | #

    This is known as “barking up the wrong tree.”

  50. Ethan
    Ethan
    April 21, 2011 at 9:52 am | #

    Well, Willis said he isn’t on planning on putting Joyce and Walky together in this crazy alternate universe, (I’m pretty sure I remember him saying something like that.) so Ethan might not be gay in this one.

    • David
      David M Willis
      April 21, 2011 at 10:59 am | #

      I throw my hands up in the air.

    • begbert2
      begbert2
      April 21, 2011 at 11:02 am | #

      It’s quite amazing how many people in this thread have overlooked the incontrovertible evidence that Ethan is gay in DoA.

      • Loki
        Loki
        April 21, 2011 at 11:21 am | #

        Yeah, like his CAST DESCRIPTION and mentioning it “on screen” in the last WEEK.

        As I said on today’s news item, I feel like some people need a caption floating around Ethan that says: “This is Ethan. He’s gay! Gay gay gay.”

    • Loki
      Loki
      April 21, 2011 at 11:20 am | #

      Hooray! You’re so clueless that between you and other folk, Willis ended up putting up a really silly news post!

      Aside from today’s news item, please read this: http://www.dumbingofage.com/cast/attachment/castethan/

    • Shift
      Shift
      April 21, 2011 at 2:55 pm | #

      …seriously? Please tell me you’re doing this as provocation and aren’t really serious.

    • Lokitsu
      Lokitsu
      April 21, 2011 at 7:41 pm | #

      To everyone who says that Joyce is unrealistic in her self-delusions:

      I offer Exhibit A

  51. Ezzy
    Ezzy
    April 21, 2011 at 10:43 am | #

    I do not like that look.

  52. ProtonCon
    ProtonCon
    April 21, 2011 at 11:19 am | #

    Ethan’s gay. Cut print admitted. HOWEVER, so is Shortpacked Ethan.

    And he still boned Conquest and Amber. Does DoA Ethan still have his two girl tokens or did he burn them already.

    Also three comments on one comic is like a record for me or something.

    • Kamino Neko
      Kamino Neko
      April 21, 2011 at 7:16 pm | #

      SP! Ethan didn’t realize it until after sleeping with Connie, and was more concerned about Roadblock when he was doing it with Amber.

      DOA Ethan realized it the same night he (may or may not have) slept with Amber. (It’s not entirely clear at what point in the proceedings he realized he was gay.)

      • CWR
        CWR
        April 23, 2011 at 4:09 am | #

        And was Mike, like, IN the hotel room with them or what? He kept bringing it up like he was reminiscing about a shared experience…

        • Kamino Neko
          Kamino Neko
          April 23, 2011 at 11:16 am | #

          Well, what better way to cap off prom night than a three-way. >_>

  53. hiimmatt
    hiimmatt
    April 21, 2011 at 11:22 am | #

    So, Joyce is a man in this universe?

  54. TheDoctor
    TheDoctor
    April 21, 2011 at 11:44 am | #

    Looks like the Joyce in this Universe is letting “Anti-Joyce” out to play a little and not being so timid and shy with Ethan. I hope joyce brings out those Knee-high Boots and jeans if they go out, rrrRAWRrrr.

  55. xo
    xo
    April 21, 2011 at 12:28 pm | #

    scheming joyce scares me

  56. xo
    xo
    April 21, 2011 at 12:32 pm | #

    btw is that mikes ‘are you really that dense ?’ face ?

  57. agentksilver
    agentksilver
    April 21, 2011 at 1:22 pm | #

    Called it!

    And Joyce likes those tall Jewish guys, huh?

    • agentksilver
      agentksilver
      April 21, 2011 at 1:22 pm | #

      Also Joyce is going to go through the entire male population of IU at this rate.

    • Trae Dorn
      Trae Dorn
      April 21, 2011 at 1:23 pm | #

      Dammit! You posted while I was typing! 😛

  58. Trae Dorn
    Trae Dorn
    April 21, 2011 at 1:23 pm | #

    So DoA Joyce is really into tall Jewish dudes.

  59. Bill M.
    Bill M.
    April 21, 2011 at 2:11 pm | #

    Wow. Joyce’s “Mr. Right”-dar is seriously on the fritz. She needs to get that fixed, or Faz is her next date after Ethan.

    • Henry
      Henry
      April 21, 2011 at 10:37 pm | #

      It can’t be that broken.

  60. Jabberwocky
    Jabberwocky
    April 21, 2011 at 2:17 pm | #

    I can’t wait to see Joyce’s face when she learns Ethan is gay. Bet it’ll be even better than her “Dorothy is an atheist” face.

    • begbert2
      begbert2
      April 21, 2011 at 3:38 pm | #

      It’ll be worse – she’ll see it as an insult and a betrayal. (Especially if she happens to think it’s a choice, like most Christians I know do.)

  61. Peace in Our Time
    Peace in Our Time
    April 21, 2011 at 4:22 pm | #

    It just occurred to me that Joyce is Fundi-Joe.

    With her bible.

    • Plasma Mongoose
      Plasma Mongoose
      April 21, 2011 at 9:21 pm | #

      Does that mean that she is going to ‘Joyce’ Ethan with her Bible while twittering his mum with Bible verses FOR A NICKEL?

  62. Zap
    Zap
    April 21, 2011 at 4:24 pm | #

    Wait, so, is Ethan gay? I don’t understand.

    • dchorror
      dchorror
      April 21, 2011 at 4:40 pm | #

      Being gay doesn’t mean he can’t like making friends.

    • XLR
      XLR
      April 22, 2011 at 9:07 am | #

      I’m assuming you never read shortpacked.
      And yes he is gay, though I fail to understand why that matters in this situation.

  63. luke
    luke
    April 21, 2011 at 9:13 pm | #

    Oh, Mikes cocked brow looks like the square root sign hahaha

  64. Saretto
    Saretto
    April 21, 2011 at 10:44 pm | #

    uh oh.. mikes formulating plans

  65. Henry
    Henry
    April 22, 2011 at 5:27 pm | #

    Scheming Joyce is scheming.

  66. aaron_bourque
    aaron_bourque
    April 23, 2011 at 2:32 pm | #

    MIKE: Are you SURE you’re gay? ‘Cause you flirt with every girl you meet and almost had sex with one, and . . . .

    • dchorror
      dchorror
      April 26, 2011 at 1:54 am | #

      Almost?

  67. Kelsey
    Kelsey
    July 8, 2011 at 11:05 am | #

    ETHAN STOP BEING SO PRECIOUS. YOU’RE ONLY ENCOURAGING HER.

  68. Magnus369
    Magnus369
    September 26, 2011 at 9:02 pm | #

    HA! that’s just evil… Gay for amber, yet straight for joyce? and with the look that mike’s giving… Think mike would be up for chaperoning another date?

  69. Maycroft
    Maycroft
    January 19, 2012 at 12:08 am | #

    I guess Ethan could be bi.

CHOOSE A SIDE, NO COWARDS

View Results

Loading ... Loading ...
  • Polls Archive
CONVENTION APPEARANCES


May 3, 2025 - FCBD @ Laughing Ogre Comics in Columbus, Ohio

David M Willis! avatar
David M Willis!
@damnyouwillis.bsky.social
damnyouwillis.bsky.social's user avatar
David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 3h
who wore it better
2
7
20
 
damnyouwillis.bsky.social's user avatar
David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 3h
1
17
 
damnyouwillis.bsky.social's user avatar
David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 3h
Dumbing of Age: "Pervasively" www.dumbingofage.com/2025/comic/b... #webcomics #webcomic
www.dumbingofage.com
Pervasively
1
6
30
 
reposted by David M Willis!
indigo-k.com's user avatar
-indy ✨ (he/him) @indigo-k.com ⋅ 6h
WIP: Taking a break for dinner, and then back to finish this later tonight:
5
8
62
 
reposted by David M Willis!
gwensnyder.bsky.social's user avatar
Gwen Snyder is uncivil @gwensnyder.bsky.social ⋅ 7h
I will say for the umpteenth time that the Democratic establishment is terrible at understanding enthusiasm math. An energized base is crucial to winning fights-- electoral and otherwise-- because they will drag the low info folks out to vote and protest and engage. You NEED that energy.
gwensnyder.bsky.social's user avatarGwen Snyder is uncivil @gwensnyder.bsky.social ⋅ 7h
It's not just that he and his policies are unpopular, there's a clear and demonstrated enthusiasm differential now. His base is energetically absent, ours is livid and out in the streets.
11
212
888
 
reposted by David M Willis!
fakeeyes.bsky.social's user avatar
FakeEyes @fakeeyes.bsky.social ⋅ 8h
Pretty good Spider-Man figure, I don’t care what they say.
Spider-Man doing that thing you expect. It’s the butt thing. Why have I done this to myself? Is this my life? Yes.
10
24
163
 
reposted by David M Willis!
zaratustra.bsky.social's user avatar
zaratustra @zaratustra.bsky.social ⋅ 9h
@damnyouwillis.bsky.social adjacent to your interests
adashtra.bsky.social's user avatarAsh Parrish @adashtra.bsky.social ⋅ 12h
Turns out the guy was Chuck Ayers, a nationally recognized cartoonist and creator of Crankshaft. He had a lot to say but the thing that struck me was that when he talked about whats going on now, I could see he was holding back emotion. All this still hurts him to see 55 (!!) years later.
2
27
 
reposted by David M Willis!
katiestp.bsky.social's user avatar
Katie @katiestp.bsky.social ⋅ 13h
Right now, these sweet kids have no clue how impactful this period in history will be for them, but I hope they will be proud of the time they made the best protest sign ever: The green one that says “Trump eats boogers” #NoKings
Kids and adults standing on a pedestrian bridge over the highway with protest signs that say fascists out and no Trump no ice. The best one is green and says Trump eats boogers.
katiestp.bsky.social's user avatarKatie @katiestp.bsky.social ⋅ 17h
We can’t make the actual event at the capitol today, so you’ll find us with the kids on University with our signs (and I might bring the megaphone too). Even if you can’t make it to the capitol - come out in your own neighborhoods, even if it’s for a few minutes. Be seen. Be heard. #nokings
1
90
502
 
reposted by David M Willis!
anguirus.bsky.social's user avatar
Anguirus @anguirus.bsky.social ⋅ 13h
rude of you to call me out like this @damnyouwillis.bsky.social
2
7
77
 
damnyouwillis.bsky.social's user avatar
David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 17h
www.ebay.com/itm/23614371... five hours left on this weirdo in the box weirdo not in the box is not for sale
2
1
14
 
reposted by David M Willis!
charliejane.bsky.social's user avatar
Charlie Jane "Lessons in Magic and Disaster" Anders 🏳️‍⚧ @charliejane.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
At Comic-Con 2009 I was getting misgendered a fair bit and feeling anxious AF about it. Robert Downey Jr. was doing a press conf for Sherlock Holmes. I wanted to shout out a question but hated drawing attn to myself. I did it anyway. He gestured at me: "the lady in the blue shirt." I was so happy.
bolt451.bsky.social's user avatarHunter S Schafer @bolt451.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
Right folks. Feeling rather down at the moment so bringing back an oldie Please Quote this with your most minor celebrity interaction
41
256
3316
 
damnyouwillis.bsky.social's user avatar
David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
dawn these are not the same things you had an abusive boyfriend wilbur had a live-in sex stranger who he chose over your safety because he was getting laid, until the moment something almost happened to HIS GOLDFISH
3
2
65
 
damnyouwillis.bsky.social's user avatar
David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
Dumbing of Age: "Counter-protest" www.dumbingofage.com/2025/comic/b... #webcomics #webcomic
www.dumbingofage.com
Counter-protest
4
5
32
 
damnyouwillis.bsky.social's user avatar
David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
(June 19, 2026)
It's Joyce!  Directing our attention leftwards!
4
2
86
 
damnyouwillis.bsky.social's user avatar
David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
yeah maybe joyce switching to paramore from dc talk last storyline was a good move variety.com/2025/music/n...
header image - Hayley Williams Hopes Christian Music Industry ‘Crumbles’ Amid Michael Tait Scandal: ‘F— All of You Who Knew and Didn’t Say Anything’
variety.com
Hayley Williams Hopes Christian Music Industry ‘Crumbles’ Amid Michael Tait Scandal: ‘F— All of You Who Knew and Didn’t Say Anything’
Paramore singer Hayley Williams has reacted angrily to news of accusations against Christian music star Michael Tait, saying, 'I hope the CCM industry crumbles.'
8
23
182
 
reposted by David M Willis!
daisyfm.net's user avatar
DaisyFM ✒︎ @daisyfm.net ⋅ 1d
I think it's been long enough that we should all be able to agree that Charles Martinet sounds nothing like what Mario is supposed to sound like.
4
2
36
 
reposted by David M Willis!
davidmalki.com's user avatar
david malki ! 🔩 New game! BOLTED 🔩 @davidmalki.com ⋅ 1d
The universe told me "Stop obsessively collecting 19th century illustrations. Here. Now you have plenty. You are done now. Go do the second half of your deal, where you make more things out of them"
video thumbnail
6
8
78
 
reposted by David M Willis!
wackd.bsky.social's user avatar
Wack'd @wackd.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
oh this is a hot take and i'm extremely here for it
daisyfm.net's user avatarDaisyFM ✒︎ @daisyfm.net ⋅ 1d
I think it's been long enough that we should all be able to agree that Charles Martinet sounds nothing like what Mario is supposed to sound like.
2
19
 
damnyouwillis.bsky.social's user avatar
David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
www.ebay.com/itm/23614976... bid on my HFTD Leader Class Starscream!
header image - Transformers Hunt for the Decepticons Leader Class ROTF Starscream, complete 653569490937| eBay
www.ebay.com
Transformers Hunt for the Decepticons Leader Class ROTF Starscream, complete 653569490937| eBay
Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Transformers Hunt for the Decepticons Leader Class ROTF Starscream, complete at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many pro...
1
2
6
 
damnyouwillis.bsky.social's user avatar
David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE!!!!!1
preternia.com's user avatarpreternia @preternia.com ⋅ 2d
Lava surfing action!
1
15
 
damnyouwillis.bsky.social's user avatar
David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
that's not why i go to taco bell, taco bell
1
6
78
 
damnyouwillis.bsky.social's user avatar
David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
www.ebay.com/itm/23614937... selling my dotm voyager megatron $15 BIN, just to get it outta here
3
3
12
 
reposted by David M Willis!
teaberryblue.net's user avatar
Tea Berry-Blue @teaberryblue.net ⋅ 2d
Okay so people apparently love this one so I’ll tell it again: I was walking down the street in Hell’s Kitchen back when Daniel Radcliffe was performing in Equus on Broadway, when I see him on the street. The thing is, I recognize him, remember his name is Dan, COMPLETELY blank on why I know him.
bolt451.bsky.social's user avatarHunter S Schafer @bolt451.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
Right folks. Feeling rather down at the moment so bringing back an oldie Please Quote this with your most minor celebrity interaction
3
24
123
 
damnyouwillis.bsky.social's user avatar
David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
today in #9chickweedlane i learned that by god we are going to rewrite and rewrite and rewrite amos/edda's courtship until they are holding each others' hands directly out of their respective wombs
11
50
 
reposted by David M Willis!
tylerjameshill.com's user avatar
Tyler, from the Internet @tylerjameshill.com ⋅ 2d
Republicans: WE NOMINATE SKELETOR Democrats: We dislike Skeletor but we will vote to confirm him. Please give us between 5 and 50 dollars. Democrats: I stand before you to condemn the actions of Skeletor. He should have never been given this power. Please give me between 5 and 50 dollars.
61
1458
4760
 
reposted by David M Willis!
shenanigansen.bsky.social's user avatar
Shen Comix @shenanigansen.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
01: Shen is happily showing a dark brown haired guy a comic that he's holding in his hands. He says
106
696
5996
 
damnyouwillis.bsky.social's user avatar
David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
crankshaft doing important public work showing us how staff picks happen, blowing this nepotistic corruption right the fuck open
3
1
37
 
damnyouwillis.bsky.social's user avatar
David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
"...fuck no"
6
4
52
 
damnyouwillis.bsky.social's user avatar
David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
Dumbing of Age: "Remake" www.dumbingofage.com/2025/comic/b... #webcomics #webcomic
www.dumbingofage.com
Remake
4
5
36
 
reposted by David M Willis!
damnyouwillis.bsky.social's user avatar
David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 6d
www.makeship.com/petitions/tr... Wanna Tricerahoodie Dina plush? GO PLEDGE FOR ONE! We need 200 people to make it happen! Pledge period will end in 10 days!
header image - Tricerahoodie Dina Plushie
www.makeship.com
Tricerahoodie Dina Plushie
Dina is so small and quiet that she goes completely unnoticed by most people for long stretches of time. She doesn’t talk much — she prefers to observe. People and how they interact is a puzzle to Din...
4
12
47
 

©2010-2025 Dumbing of Age | Powered by WordPress with ComicPress | Subscribe: RSS | Privacy Policy | Back to Top ↑