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How about the fact it’s likely she’s attempting to destroy her sister’s political career because despite all her talk of being an adult in control of her body, she’s still a petulant child who wants everything her way?
I think he has magical audience-predicting powers. Probably in the form of a computer that sees the comments sections of strips that have yet to be published.
Out of curiosity, how far out exactly is your buffer?
Like I can’t imagine it’s a full month or something ridiculous like that, because when you go on cons, or have some other disruption, you do have some filler, or slow down updates so you don’t run short, so how far in advance do you draw? 1 week? 2?
Could you do a symposium to teach other webtoonists how to do this? While I enjoy a large quantity of the webcomics out there, I can’t help but think that most of them would be much improved if they weren’t coming up with their next strip a few hours before they posted.
Well, what I did was start drawing Dumbing of Age really far ahead, not start publishing it until after I’d amassed a buffer, and then maintain that lead day-to-day with the same desperation as if I had no buffer.
That’s a situation that’s hard to recreate if you’ve already been drawing strips for years.
Shortpacked! doesn’t have the luxury of such a buffer. Right now I only have Thursday’s done, for example. But too much of it is a reaction to current pop culture events, so…
I wouldn’t always knock the few-hours-before strip creation mentality. Some of my best strips have come from fevered desperation.
I really enjoy when long planning mixed with spontaneous inspiration converge. It seems like all of my favorite webcomic artists all discuss having a solid long-term structure they work from and yet seem to comment all the time about aspects of the comics that came up last minute. It was one of those things that seemed to really be working for IW and got me hooked on it. IW’s story was so complex there clearly had to be a lot of planning behind it, but then it was always so full of those spontaneous interjections that brought reality to the lives of the characters. What writing I’ve done has reinforced this as well. No matter how detailed a story I might be working on it is still those last minute pushes when I’m in the zone that yield some of my most satisfying creation.
Can be a real challenge, though, when a character develops so much on the fly that they become a preoccupation. Here you’ve created a being to serve a purpose and then in the middle of having them fill that role you realize what an interesting person they are and how much time you’d like to spend getting to know them. One piece I did still hangs half-completed out there in the intertubes. Fanfic of fanfic of a really obscure but popular piece of fiction where I had taken a short story of my own and wove it in with characters and settings that I was borrowing and even chatting with their creator on how to handle. But even with well defined characters in place and a long-term plan in mind up pops a character I created as an accessory who was so compelling that half of the story in it’s current state features her as a lead.
I’m not well educated on writing but it seems that it can be a constant battle between hitting the intended goals and keeping the Muse from running off and taking everything somewhere else altogether.
Unless he predicts that you’ll catch him, and thus resigns himself to the inevitable in the most literal possible example of a self-fulfilling prophecy.
‘Why are you wearing your underwear on your head?’
‘Because I foresaw that I would.’
‘Why would you see yourself doing something like that?’
‘Well, I’m doing it right now, aren’t I?’
Well… the people do have a right to know. That’s what democracy is all about. You can’t make a informed electoral decision if you don’t know the facts.
(whether the facts about sexual activities by the sister of an elected oficial are relevant to the public, is an entirely different matter of course)
She understands her grammar just fine. So do we. Those are just old silly rules that silly people call incorrect because they idolize an old dying way of speech. Clearly both are grammatical.
Sources: Come on, you aren’t really gonna follow-up on me, are you? Just ask any linguist alive.
Okay, I know it’s been several years, but the “preposition at the end” construction Dorothy is using in her question is as old as Shakespeare. The rule to the contrary comes from Victorian grammarians who insisted (without justification) that English should be Latinate. Same with singular they (Fun fact: using ‘he’ all the time was suggested by a woman!). As for objective who, I still prefer ‘whom’. Call me a hypocrite, but that maligned preposition is very important.
Also, even with these self imposed rules, I still slip up when I speak and write.
Or not. Roz had already asked about Billie and after denying responsibility for bringing her Dorothy steered the conversation away from who she did bring and towards her interview very nicely, IMO.
Roz is right — start with the “softball” and establishing questions. Get a flow of narrative going. Build up, judge the interviewee’s speaking style. THEN go for the kill. That, or Dorothy just wants to get this done before Billie discovers fire or something.
I think it’s more that Roz annoyed her with the stupid conditions on the interview, so the gloves are off. That or she just figures this is the way to be a hard-hitting investigative reporter that asks all he hard questions.
I think she started in a good place. You wouldn’t want to give the interviewee time and details to form a denial with before first getting their raw, true reaction to the allegation.
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Well, she asked for it.
AUCH That is a third degree burn!
I hope she says: “Oh, but I’m still just warming up…”
BAM!
In the words of barney stinson:
“challenge accepted!”
You need to ease it in before you roger her with your hard questions.
Ze word is “Rodger” :p
Nice Joyclops grav BTW.
I thought the word was “Joe.”
True that! in that case, you ‘JOE’ her with your hard questions.
No, because if “Joe” was a synonym for “Rodger”, then the phrase “I wouldn’t even Joe her up the butt” would be redundant.
Yeah, just ramming in can cause damage.
*giggle… hard
That is why you need alcohol as a social ‘lubricant’.
Especially for those huge, throbbing questions that grind against those sensitive spots that get her hot and bothered.
Your conversation may reach its climax before you satisfy your curiosity.
I like where this is going.
To an R-Rating if we keep this up.
Bow-chica-bow-wow.
Someone had to say it.
MEOW! =^_^=
Giggity giggity!
In the biz, we say “brown-chicken-brown-cow.”
Threads like this are why, sometimes, the comments are even better than the comic.
We aim to please!
For a nickel!
How about the fact it’s likely she’s attempting to destroy her sister’s political career because despite all her talk of being an adult in control of her body, she’s still a petulant child who wants everything her way?
I cant wait to hear the answer to THAT one.
I got a better question joe lovers: “what do you say to the assertion that you faked the orgasm?”
Hey, taking pleasure in destroying other people’s success has nothing to do with being immature. Just look at Mike.
Well, it looks like SOMEBODY has been reading the comments section.
Hear hear!
I write these way too far in advance for that to be feasible.
Or you use a time machine.
I think he has magical audience-predicting powers. Probably in the form of a computer that sees the comments sections of strips that have yet to be published.
You say “magic,” I say “lots and lots of experience.”
you say “lots and lots of experience” and I say “Delorean Time Machine.”
Can’t we all just agree that the Willis works in mysterious ways?
he’s like the force: trust in the willis people!
(seriously though, he’s a precog.)
I was thinking hot tub, that way you get a relaxing soak at the same time.
There’s an Early Edition joke in there SOMEWHERE, i just have no idea what it is.
Definately a time machine.
If I had a time machine Id open a restraunt.
Hehe, I figured as much, I just find the image of Dorothy poking her head over the edge of the panel to read the comments incredibly funny.
Out of curiosity, how far out exactly is your buffer?
Like I can’t imagine it’s a full month or something ridiculous like that, because when you go on cons, or have some other disruption, you do have some filler, or slow down updates so you don’t run short, so how far in advance do you draw? 1 week? 2?
It’s a month.
Could you do a symposium to teach other webtoonists how to do this? While I enjoy a large quantity of the webcomics out there, I can’t help but think that most of them would be much improved if they weren’t coming up with their next strip a few hours before they posted.
Well, what I did was start drawing Dumbing of Age really far ahead, not start publishing it until after I’d amassed a buffer, and then maintain that lead day-to-day with the same desperation as if I had no buffer.
That’s a situation that’s hard to recreate if you’ve already been drawing strips for years.
Shortpacked! doesn’t have the luxury of such a buffer. Right now I only have Thursday’s done, for example. But too much of it is a reaction to current pop culture events, so…
I wouldn’t always knock the few-hours-before strip creation mentality. Some of my best strips have come from fevered desperation.
I really enjoy when long planning mixed with spontaneous inspiration converge. It seems like all of my favorite webcomic artists all discuss having a solid long-term structure they work from and yet seem to comment all the time about aspects of the comics that came up last minute. It was one of those things that seemed to really be working for IW and got me hooked on it. IW’s story was so complex there clearly had to be a lot of planning behind it, but then it was always so full of those spontaneous interjections that brought reality to the lives of the characters. What writing I’ve done has reinforced this as well. No matter how detailed a story I might be working on it is still those last minute pushes when I’m in the zone that yield some of my most satisfying creation.
Can be a real challenge, though, when a character develops so much on the fly that they become a preoccupation. Here you’ve created a being to serve a purpose and then in the middle of having them fill that role you realize what an interesting person they are and how much time you’d like to spend getting to know them. One piece I did still hangs half-completed out there in the intertubes. Fanfic of fanfic of a really obscure but popular piece of fiction where I had taken a short story of my own and wove it in with characters and settings that I was borrowing and even chatting with their creator on how to handle. But even with well defined characters in place and a long-term plan in mind up pops a character I created as an accessory who was so compelling that half of the story in it’s current state features her as a lead.
I’m not well educated on writing but it seems that it can be a constant battle between hitting the intended goals and keeping the Muse from running off and taking everything somewhere else altogether.
Am I the only one who read Seerow’s question as: “How far out exactly is your butter?”
Only one explanation then…
Willis is a precog! Capture him! (oh the money we’ll make!)
Ummm, if he is a precog, you will never be able to catch him.
Unless he predicts that you’ll catch him, and thus resigns himself to the inevitable in the most literal possible example of a self-fulfilling prophecy.
‘Why are you wearing your underwear on your head?’
‘Because I foresaw that I would.’
‘Why would you see yourself doing something like that?’
‘Well, I’m doing it right now, aren’t I?’
No offense to the comments section…but don’t flatter yourselves.
By the way, those are excellent questions, Dorothy!
If we don’t flatter ourselves, no one else will. *pouts*
OMG UR RIGHT! My poor failing self esteem!
…*whispers* iamgreat,iamgreat,iamgreat….
THERE THERE…
Never, ever tell a journalist to “do their worst.”
Not like they’re looking for an invitation.
Or a nickel.
For your penis.
In your FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCCCEEEE.
Aaaaaaand here we go.
I’ll bring the femurs.
I read this as you saying they’re worse than Mike.
Quick, Roz! Ger her drunk, stat!
Oh wait, she’s underage.
Quick, Roz! Stuff her with skittles, stat!
Wait, that only works on Robin.
Quick, get Joyce to distract her with a tract! STAT!
Then again…
The only solution is for Roz to set the place on fire.
Yes, fire. Fire saves all.
That or hot random lesbian sex…
Not a WBC rally..
“Aww, now I’ve made myself sad…”
“There is no problem that can’t be solved with an explosion of the right size, in the right time, and the right place.”
“As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it can solve approaches zero”
There’s a penis joke in there somewhere…
“If in doubt, C4”
C4? You sank my battleship!
But you still got your patrol boat thou.
If I didn’t know any better, I would think Dorothy was projecting. But I do know better, because Dorothy was never at risk of getting expelled.
I like how Dorothy quickly ducks around the fact that she actually brought Joyce along.
I do believe you mean Jennifer Billingsworth
“Do your worst”
Famous last words, if I recall correctly.
Never ask a journalist to “do their worst”. They take it as a challenge.
And never, ever trust a journalist who says, “Just between you and me.”
or “the people have a right to know” that one always annoyed me
“fair and balanced”
Well… the people do have a right to know. That’s what democracy is all about. You can’t make a informed electoral decision if you don’t know the facts.
(whether the facts about sexual activities by the sister of an elected oficial are relevant to the public, is an entirely different matter of course)
Hooray for Roz getting taken down a peg!
Hehe, you think Roz can change
She didn’t even change before the party. But maybe her capacity for long-term change stands in contrast to her wardrobe choices.
Hey I just noticed that Dora has freckles. =)
those aren’t freckles, they’re skin cancer!
Okay, I like Dorothy now. She comes across as a little too self-involved, but she’s sharp witted.
I wanna see a storyline with her, Sal and Dina as the central characters. XD
I just want to see more of Dina. She was really the breakout character in the old series, stealing the scene whenever she was in frame.
I’d like to think Dina’s at the party… either behind a door somewhere or assisting Amazi-Girl in her secret identity of Amazi-Stool!
Wha? But Dina is Amazi-Girl!
Dina is Ultra Car??
Dina is Alan. Its amazing the spaces she can fit into.
You know, when Joyce was leaning against the closet, commenting on being alone, I honestly was expecting Dina to turn out to be inside it…
Maybe she’ll be in the closet of the “board game room.” Whether that will be of any help to anyone is another matter.
Dina will own them all at Scrabble. Using dinosaur names.
“Do your worst.”
“challengeaccepted.jpg”
Still waiting to see Faz in all his fazziness.
Being as awesome as he is, he deserves some sort of position of power.
Such as Dean of the school, or perhaps local police officer. Or University parking patrol guy.
Willis could always pull a Community homage reference and make Faz the Senor Chang of the strip.
Never ask anyone with a polish sausage to ‘do their wurst’ unless you are strong of stomach.
The should be “With whom you disagree” >.>
Thank you. As a journalist, she should understand grammar.
She understands her grammar just fine. So do we. Those are just old silly rules that silly people call incorrect because they idolize an old dying way of speech. Clearly both are grammatical.
Sources: Come on, you aren’t really gonna follow-up on me, are you? Just ask any linguist alive.
Okay, I know it’s been several years, but the “preposition at the end” construction Dorothy is using in her question is as old as Shakespeare. The rule to the contrary comes from Victorian grammarians who insisted (without justification) that English should be Latinate. Same with singular they (Fun fact: using ‘he’ all the time was suggested by a woman!). As for objective who, I still prefer ‘whom’. Call me a hypocrite, but that maligned preposition is very important.
Also, even with these self imposed rules, I still slip up when I speak and write.
Way to bring it Dorothy!
“do your worst!”
*ULTRA ARCHIE PIMP SLAP WITH STANK ON IT!*
“why don’t you love me anymore?”
Or not. Roz had already asked about Billie and after denying responsibility for bringing her Dorothy steered the conversation away from who she did bring and towards her interview very nicely, IMO.
DOROTHY SMASH!!!
(I know this is mixing sources, but it fits so well)
It’s Super Effective!
Roz is right — start with the “softball” and establishing questions. Get a flow of narrative going. Build up, judge the interviewee’s speaking style. THEN go for the kill. That, or Dorothy just wants to get this done before Billie discovers fire or something.
I think it’s more that Roz annoyed her with the stupid conditions on the interview, so the gloves are off. That or she just figures this is the way to be a hard-hitting investigative reporter that asks all he hard questions.
I think she started in a good place. You wouldn’t want to give the interviewee time and details to form a denial with before first getting their raw, true reaction to the allegation.
might have been said before, but I simply gotta jump in here with…
OH SNAP!
Snap!
Funny how close the comment totals here and at Shortpacked! Have been all day. (Things you notice when bored at work with internet access)
Damn! Worst right off the bat
Something to think about–maybe the questions Roz is being hit with now AREN’T the worst.
Dorothy = Mike Wallace