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by David M Willis on May 30, 2012 at 12:01 am
  • 04 - Time Keeps on Slippin'


└ Tags: ethan, joyce, spongebob squarepants, the simpsons, walky

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  1. Jen Aside
    Jen Aside
    May 30, 2012 at 12:01 am | #

    God is Unicron, amirite?

    • Aizat
      Aizat
      May 30, 2012 at 12:08 am | #

      I thought Unicron is the Devil.

      • Whaaaat?
        Whaaaat?
        May 30, 2012 at 12:16 am | #

        of course it is! if you rearrange the letters in “unicorn” u get gullible, which means devil in cthulu-ism

        • CommentSpawn
          CommentSpawn
          May 30, 2012 at 12:55 am | #

          Whaaaat?

          • Jetstream
            Jetstream
            May 30, 2012 at 1:13 am | #

            She’s been indwelt by a great old one. Obviously.

    • stikibunn
      stikibunn
      May 30, 2012 at 10:29 am | #

      In some churches G1 Optimus Prime is used to tell children about Jesus. Came to save all mankind, died for our sins, was brought back to life better.

      • begbert2
        begbert2
        May 30, 2012 at 10:53 am | #

        If angels were Autobots and demons were Decepticons religion would be a lot cooler. I mean, just picture: a thirty foot robot clumsily leaning down and trying to faux-whisper through the department store door, “Just take the candy bar! Nobody’ll notice! -Slag, I crushed another shopping cart.”

        • thomas0comer
          thomas0comer
          May 30, 2012 at 4:08 pm | #

          The shoulder angel and devil would be mini-cons that combine to form your cell phone. And imagine the stained-glass window work they could do in churches!

        • Nathan
          Nathan
          September 1, 2013 at 1:29 am | #

          Or, like, Hot Shot telling Mary that she’s virgin-preggers with God’s son, Optimus Prime.

      • Ziaheart
        Ziaheart
        June 1, 2012 at 3:42 am | #

        I hear they tried to do the same thing with Star Wars with Luke Skywalker being Jesus and Darth Vader being the devil… and then it all went to hell when it was revealed that Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker’s father.

        Of course, if they just looked at the name “Darth Vader” they would have totally seen that it means “dark father” and wouldn’t have made that blunder but… hindsight.

  2. Wack'd
    Wack'd
    May 30, 2012 at 12:02 am | #

    I don’t think I’ve seen that SpongeBob episode.

    • Regalli
      Regalli
      May 30, 2012 at 12:06 am | #

      Some of the later episodes prove the existence of demons working for Nickelodeon who refuse to let the show die with dignity, does that count?

      • Aizat
        Aizat
        May 30, 2012 at 12:07 am | #

        Hey, it’s almost the same to my theory that there is some Eldritch powers at work that made Spongebob as horrible as possible.

        • Regalli
          Regalli
          May 30, 2012 at 12:15 pm | #

          It had some good episodes before the movie, but then it turned into a shambling zombie version of its former self.

          Which is saying something, since I didn’t particularly like the series before. Now it’s just sad. I think the creators have been actively trying to get it canceled since it was renewed after the movie.

    • Rognik
      Rognik
      May 30, 2012 at 2:43 am | #

      You mean a SpongeBob episode that doesn’t subvert the glory of the almighty? Because I know some church groups are mad that he and Patrick are gay. (And just what is wrong with being happy all the time?)

      • Steven Fisher
        Steven Fisher
        May 30, 2012 at 11:29 am | #

        I have an otherwise sane friend who believes Spongebob and Patrick are gay.

        • Bill M.
          Bill M.
          May 30, 2012 at 2:57 pm | #

          I was over at my nephew’s for Thanksgiving last year, and the movie was playing for his daughters. Based on what I saw, Spongebob and Patrick are prepubescent, if you choose to anthropomorphize them. Besides, sponges are hermaphroditic, but most species reproduce asexually. With starfish… it gets weird. They can be hermaprhoditic, transgender, or can reproduce asexually when there’s an abundance of food around.

        • TheBenenator
          TheBenenator
          May 30, 2012 at 6:50 pm | #

          You clearly haven’t seen the episode with the baby clam.

          Patrick and Spongebob are just as gay as Timone and Pumba are. (More so, if you count the Timone and Pumba cartoon series, which IIRC would paint them as bi.)

  3. Whaaaat?
    Whaaaat?
    May 30, 2012 at 12:02 am | #

    a few dozen? someone has an addiction

    • Bekah
      Bekah
      May 30, 2012 at 12:05 am | #

      If a few dozen DVDs is an addiction, I think I need rehab.

      • Whaaaat?
        Whaaaat?
        May 30, 2012 at 12:07 am | #

        i wonder how detoxing would work out in this situation?

        • Bekah
          Bekah
          May 30, 2012 at 12:11 am | #

          If it’s anything like the time I was busted smoking in middle school, you’ll give me your credit card and send me to amazon.ca and force me to buy every movie and TV show I can find until I throw up.

          I’m hoping that’s how it works.

          • Cholma
            Cholma
            May 30, 2012 at 12:13 am | #

            Scott Pilgrim would like to know the URL for amazon dot ca!

          • Whaaaat?
            Whaaaat?
            May 30, 2012 at 12:14 am | #

            so in middle school they gave you a creditcard and forced you to buy *insert whatever u were smoking here* until u threw up?…i need to go back to school

            • Bekah
              Bekah
              May 30, 2012 at 12:17 am | #

              In middle school they made me perform the action I was addicted to until I threw up.

              Bust smoking? Daddy made me smoke a whole carton of cigarettes. I threw up.

              • Whaaaat?
                Whaaaat?
                May 30, 2012 at 12:18 am | #

                ahhh old school parenting, those were the days…

              • Lieutenant Dan
                Lieutenant Dan
                May 30, 2012 at 7:48 am | #

                So you like donuts, eh? Well, have ALL THE DONUTS IN THE WORLD!!

                • trevalyan
                  trevalyan
                  May 30, 2012 at 11:04 am | #

                  I don’t understand it. James Coco went mad in fifteen minutes!

                  … I’m probably proof that Joyce’s parents messed up. Yes, I didn’t watch the Simpsons as a child, but as a solution it appears to have been VERY short term. 😀

              • Kryss LaBryn
                Kryss LaBryn
                May 30, 2012 at 12:00 pm | #

                That happened to a friend of mine. Got busted smoking, was forced to smoke a whole pack.

                He had just been giving it a try but didn’t really like it, and was intending to never do it again. Unfortunately, smoking the whole pack didn’t just make him puke, it also got him addicted…

      • Bill M.
        Bill M.
        May 30, 2012 at 3:00 pm | #

        Bekah, I’m in your boat. Several hundred here. That’s not counting VHS tapes, CDs, audio cassettes, records, video games, board games… dang it, I’m like a straight Ethan from this DOAverse.

    • Aizat
      Aizat
      May 30, 2012 at 12:18 am | #

      Addiction? Buddy, that’s what some fans call dedication.

      • Kernanator
        Kernanator
        May 30, 2012 at 12:27 am | #

        I’m not addicted to Pokemon, I can quit any time I want!

        …

        …I just don’t want to.

        • Ancestral Hamster
          Ancestral Hamster
          May 30, 2012 at 12:52 am | #

          “Kernanator! I choose you! ” 😀

        • Plasma Mongoose
          Plasma Mongoose
          May 30, 2012 at 4:32 am | #

          How do you snort pokemon?

          • Rex Hondo
            Rex Hondo
            May 30, 2012 at 5:39 am | #

            Maybe he’s an addict in the same way Jacob is an addict.

            *eyebrow waggle*

          • Bill M.
            Bill M.
            May 30, 2012 at 3:02 pm | #

            How to snort Pokémon:

            Step 1: Get a pokémon.
            Step 2: Crystalize/fossilize your pokémon.
            Step 3: Get your hammer.
            Step 4: I think you can figure it out from here.

          • Roborat
            Roborat
            May 30, 2012 at 4:24 pm | #

            Aim the pokeball at your nose, press the release button, inhale.

          • TheBenenator
            TheBenenator
            May 30, 2012 at 6:52 pm | #

            Pokemon Crystal, that’s how.

            • Regalli
              Regalli
              May 30, 2012 at 7:12 pm | #

              So THAT’S why Kris never reappeared in the remakes!

              • Kernanator
                Kernanator
                May 31, 2012 at 12:30 am | #

                That’s right. After the honor of being the first female Pokemon protagonist, Kris used her fame to buy meth. After 10 years, when Game Freak tried looking her up to appear in the remake, all they could find was a strung-out corpse.

  4. Sensedog
    Sensedog
    May 30, 2012 at 12:03 am | #

    Poor, deprived Joyce.

    …This can only end in hilarity. Or tragedy. Or both.

    • Cheredarenee
      Cheredarenee
      May 30, 2012 at 2:23 am | #

      In this case the tragedy would be hilarious, but that might be because schadenfreude gets me through the day…

  5. Wonder Wig
    Wonder Wig
    May 30, 2012 at 12:03 am | #

    Seeing “Spongebob Squarepants” in quotations makes me feel really old somehow.

  6. Bekah
    Bekah
    May 30, 2012 at 12:04 am | #

    Slippery slope Joyce. Next you’ll be upgrading your curse lexicon from “gosh darn it” to “fiddlesticks”. It’s all sacrificing goats to the All Mother at midnight on the solstice from there.

    • Jathy
      Jathy
      May 30, 2012 at 12:14 am | #

      Isn’t “gosh darn it” worse than “fiddlesticks?” Gosh is just two letters from God, after all.

      • Bekah
        Bekah
        May 30, 2012 at 12:17 am | #

        That’s why they call it an “upgrade”

        • TSED
          TSED
          May 30, 2012 at 5:13 am | #

          That’d be downgrade, the way you worded it.

  7. Aizat
    Aizat
    May 30, 2012 at 12:06 am | #

    Well, if I was asked to recommend Spongebob to someone, I would recommend the pre-movie seasons sans a few episodes like “The Paper”.

  8. Blob Marley
    Blob Marley
    May 30, 2012 at 12:07 am | #

    The Simpsons is surprisingly reverent!

    • Aizat
      Aizat
      May 30, 2012 at 12:11 am | #

      I never seen the past 21 seasons since the networks in my country are somewhat total dicks.

      • Blob Marley
        Blob Marley
        May 30, 2012 at 12:18 am | #

        What country, if I may?

        • Aizat
          Aizat
          May 30, 2012 at 12:19 am | #

          Malaysia. Why?

      • StClair
        StClair
        May 30, 2012 at 12:20 am | #

        You’re not missing a whole lot.

    • TeslaSunburn
      TeslaSunburn
      May 30, 2012 at 3:34 am | #

      It really is. Remember the episode where Homer quits church and God sets his house on fire to make him come back?

    • Shade
      Shade
      May 30, 2012 at 6:41 pm | #

      Though they’ve lost some religious favour by representing gays as slightly campy but otherwise normal.

      Funny story though, a catholic minister once said Homers was the perfect example of a Catholic, ignoring the fact he’s Protestant-esque, sure.

  9. Kernanator
    Kernanator
    May 30, 2012 at 12:26 am | #

    I’d tell Ethan to stop enabling Joyce’s crush, but this is going to end up far too funny for me to want to miss.

    • Jackson
      Jackson
      May 30, 2012 at 6:46 am | #

      Painfully funny.

  10. wooskie
    wooskie
    May 30, 2012 at 12:26 am | #

    i wonder what franchises this Ethan is really into. i doubt he has quite the same Transformers fixation, since he’s not part of that generation anymore.

    • kyojikasshu
      kyojikasshu
      May 30, 2012 at 12:35 am | #

      He did have that recolored Beast Wars Optimus Primal, so he’s definitely got some awareness of the brand.

      And don’t underestimate young people’s ability to get into older franchises. My nephews were already well-versed in G1 and Beast Wars by the time the first live-action movie came out, and the oldest wasn’t even 10 yet.

    • ryan
      ryan
      May 30, 2012 at 8:46 am | #

      i’m guessing he still likes batman in any incarnation.

  11. Brasca1
    Brasca1
    May 30, 2012 at 12:29 am | #

    I can understand banning the Simpsons, but seriously Spongebob Squarepants? What’s sacrilegious about that? This reminds me of an old Simpsons episode where the Flanders kids were forbidden to watch Davey and Goliath because talking dogs are considered blasphemous.

    • Random Guy
      Random Guy
      May 30, 2012 at 1:52 am | #

      As opposed to talking ponies?

      • Rex Hondo
        Rex Hondo
        May 30, 2012 at 2:27 am | #

        Talking dogs are just blasphemous. Talking ponies, on the other hand, are BLASPHEMAWESOME.

    • LiC
      LiC
      May 30, 2012 at 6:37 am | #

      I seem to recall some religious conservative groups were anti-Spongebob some years back, because they believed he promoted homosexuality for some weird reason.

      • Brasca1
        Brasca1
        May 30, 2012 at 9:21 am | #

        I remember Falwell attacking the Teletubbies about that, but religious fundamentalists tend to find something “evil” in everything so there’s probably some lesser known yahoo who claimed that.

      • Shade
        Shade
        May 30, 2012 at 6:44 pm | #

        Yeah the whole thing really blew up when the movie came out. Then again, how many movies have a fight scene on David Hasselhoff’s back?

        Not enough, that’s for sure.

    • Jackson
      Jackson
      May 30, 2012 at 6:49 am | #

      My mom’s religious, but she opposes Spongebob on basically secular grounds: claims it contributes to ADD, and also that Spongebob is super-annoying.

      • Kernanator
        Kernanator
        May 30, 2012 at 11:23 am | #

        See, now that’s reasonable.

    • lokitsu
      lokitsu
      May 30, 2012 at 6:20 pm | #

      According to one of the creators, the cast of SS are supposed to represent the seven deadly sins. Patrick is sloth, Squidward is wrath, etc. The part that creeps me out is Spongebob is supposedly LUST.

      • DarkVeghetta
        DarkVeghetta
        June 19, 2015 at 2:10 am | #

        O_o
        I need to re-watch some episodes with this new information in mind.

  12. kyojikasshu
    kyojikasshu
    May 30, 2012 at 12:31 am | #

    I think Joyce would totally freak out over the mere suggestion that the Earth might be formed around the inanimate body of an entity known as “the Chaos-Bringer”, known for destroying/consuming entire worlds…

    … but maybe this Ethan doesn’t have the Prime season 1 set?

    • Rex Hondo
      Rex Hondo
      May 30, 2012 at 1:04 am | #

      I doubt she’d even make it that far. Optimus claims that the Autobots have been fighting the Decepticons for millions of years, which is impossible and obviously a blasphemous lie, since the Earth and cosmos are only a few thousand years old.

  13. MarcinMN
    MarcinMN
    May 30, 2012 at 12:39 am | #

    Joyce is going to love the Lisa Simpson in the mid to late seasons. =P

  14. Kschenke
    Kschenke
    May 30, 2012 at 12:56 am | #

    Futurama, as most of you know, has one of the better religion episodes where a sentient star system being that might be God explains God.

    • ShifterComic
      ShifterComic
      May 30, 2012 at 2:01 am | #

      And then they did the best episode on evolution ever.

      • kschenke
        kschenke
        May 30, 2012 at 11:46 am | #

        Yes, I really enjoyed that episode, mostly because their ending conclusion is essentially how I feel about the subject. I like when that happens.

    • Raen
      Raen
      May 30, 2012 at 8:21 am | #

      Futurama, where most of the writers have a strong science background, has a less than hidden atheistic bent overall, that one all but apologetic episode aside. It’s not as in-your-face as South Park (let alone Family Guy’s string of bricks to the head), but it’s much, much too blatant for Joyce.

      • kschenke
        kschenke
        May 30, 2012 at 11:45 am | #

        Futurama, where agnostic and atheist writers can poke fun at religion without shredding all religious people or the concept of a thoughtful God apart. Which is why I like the show so much and still believe in God.

        And most things are too blatant for Joyce at this point, but episodes like “Godfellas” could certainly open her point of view.

  15. John Madden
    John Madden
    May 30, 2012 at 1:05 am | #

    Quit lying, Ethan.

  16. Yoda123
    Yoda123
    May 30, 2012 at 1:41 am | #

    And if you really wanna get freaked out by the anti-toy religious:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8jGJxSky1fo

    • Mel
      Mel
      May 30, 2012 at 3:03 am | #

      Man, that should have ended with him at LEAST getting a better toy.

      Poor, messed up kid.

      • Groove
        Groove
        May 30, 2012 at 4:36 am | #

        What the hell. People are mental.

        How is this wholesome and good?!? It’s basically a cartoon about how little Billy became psychologically scarred. The sheer degree of shame on display here is incredible, and that they expect parents will want to do this to their kids fairly beggars belief.

        Mike grav’s overwhelming disapointment with humanity is finally appropriate.

    • historyman68
      historyman68
      May 30, 2012 at 4:48 am | #

      Fuck, is that what happened to Joyce? All the sympathy in the world for her.

    • Rex Hondo
      Rex Hondo
      May 30, 2012 at 5:30 am | #

      As a parent with the goal of raising his children with the tools they need to choose their own spiritual paths, I felt physically ill watching that. Reading the accompanying article made me fearful on behalf of a whole generation of kids growing up JW.

    • John Merklinghaus
      John Merklinghaus
      May 30, 2012 at 11:44 am | #

      Man, it’s a good thing that kid doesn’t know that friendship is magic.

      • Shade
        Shade
        May 30, 2012 at 6:50 pm | #

        Jehova would be so sad because of that show. Poor Jehova, must suck to get upset so easily.

    • Regalli
      Regalli
      May 30, 2012 at 12:24 pm | #

      … Um.

      I’m gonna need to go watch something happy now.

      And is it just me, or does the mother sound kind of dead inside or something?

    • vlademir1
      vlademir1
      May 30, 2012 at 12:39 pm | #

      Oh sweet gods…. just the look on the mother’s face. I died a little watching what little I did of that.

      @Regalli: Yes, she does.

    • begbert2
      begbert2
      May 30, 2012 at 3:39 pm | #

      Is that…serious? Please tell me that was made ironically. PLEASE tell me that was made ironically.

      Please?

      • Rex Hondo
        Rex Hondo
        May 30, 2012 at 11:33 pm | #

        Wish I could tell you that. Oh God how I wish I could.

    • TARDIS With A Hat
      TARDIS With A Hat
      May 31, 2012 at 9:40 am | #

      This is the saddest thing ever, what the actual flying fuck is wrong with these people?

  17. ShifterComic
    ShifterComic
    May 30, 2012 at 2:00 am | #

    Joyce, ” ‘Neon Genesis Evangelion.’ Oh, is this like Bibleman?”

    Ethan, “…let me just put that back up on the shelf.”

    • DarkVeghetta
      DarkVeghetta
      June 19, 2015 at 2:16 am | #

      GREAT IDEA! I’d love to see her reaction to it. I’d predict delicious flavors.

  18. GenericScreenName101
    GenericScreenName101
    May 30, 2012 at 2:40 am | #

    So… What kind of nonmainstream cartoons was Joyce watching then? Because all the nonmainstream cartoons that joyce might have watched involved dinosaurs, aliens, creepy crawlers, killer tomatoes, alternate dimensions. Must of been some foreign cartoons… And street sharks.

    • Krashthemystro
      Krashthemystro
      May 30, 2012 at 3:00 am | #

      This:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF2vKAvXE3A
      I actually really enjoyed this show as a kid, watched it with my Maw Maw. But I wasn’t forbiden to watch other cartoons,like say Earth Worm Jim or Freekazoid.

      • ShawnTheGirl
        ShawnTheGirl
        May 30, 2012 at 4:46 pm | #

        Oh man, I used to love that show!

        I wasn’t allowed to listen to secular music, but cartoons were fair game. By the time I was a senior in high school my parents didn’t care if I watched South Park.

        • Krashthemystro
          Krashthemystro
          May 31, 2012 at 4:26 am | #

          Haha I grew up a cartoon fiend, and listened to Ted Nugent, The Stones, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Led Zep… and soforth… my dad was in a band so I had an rock and roll up bringing.

    • Mel
      Mel
      May 30, 2012 at 3:06 am | #

      Maybe Veggie Tales?

      .. hey, I LIKED Veggie Tales…

      • Rex Hondo
        Rex Hondo
        May 30, 2012 at 5:34 am | #

        Maybe it was just the one episode I saw, but the moral in Veggie Tales seemed to pretty much boil down to “because the Bible says so,” a bit much for my taste.

        • LauraS
          LauraS
          May 30, 2012 at 11:08 am | #

          It was more of “Be a good person because the Bible says so,” with the emphasis on the “be a good person” part, from what I remember. And the songs were awesome.

    • ryan
      ryan
      May 30, 2012 at 8:51 am | #

      there’s always “superbook” and “the flying house”.

    • vlademir1
      vlademir1
      May 30, 2012 at 12:56 pm | #

      If she’s like some of the kids I knew growing up whose parents trended this way, likely a lot of PBS kids programing as well as some of the other stuff mentioned.
      Mind you TV was often limited to an hour to an hour and a half per day for those kids, and the rest of the time they had to find stuff to do that didn’t bother the adults around them: ie. “play quietly” typically inside the house or at furthest in their own yard or, once they got old enough, do homework.
      They were typically the families with at least one parent that worked from home, worked evenings or was purely stay at home as well.

  19. AJBulldis
    AJBulldis
    May 30, 2012 at 4:43 am | #

    I’m pretty sure Batman: The Animated Series is a safe bet.

    • historyman68
      historyman68
      May 30, 2012 at 5:02 am | #

      It’s at least pretty consistently morality tales – though there’s a lot of emphasis on the morality of not pissing off unstable scientists.

      • Raiser
        Raiser
        May 30, 2012 at 11:22 am | #

        Or Batman.

  20. Maycroft
    Maycroft
    May 30, 2012 at 4:58 am | #

    Don’t watch the Simpsons Joyce!

    • Sir Robin
      Sir Robin
      May 30, 2012 at 7:25 am | #

      She can watch, but only until Ethan cuts her off before the show goes to shit

  21. LiC
    LiC
    May 30, 2012 at 6:50 am | #

    I’ve been thinking the kind of shows Ethan would have watched when he was growing up in this universe, and I kinda wonder if he is Anti-Power Rangers here too? I mean, in this continuity he was born around the time the first series came out, so basically he grew up with the power ranger franchise.

    • David
      David M Willis
      May 30, 2012 at 10:59 am | #

      He definitely digs Power Rangers.

  22. Kawphany
    Kawphany
    May 30, 2012 at 8:14 am | #

    Out of all the kinds of people in the world, people like Joyce & her parents creep me out the most.

  23. TARDIS With A Hat
    TARDIS With A Hat
    May 30, 2012 at 8:46 am | #

    I think it’s probably better not to start Joyce on MLP:FiM right away – the whole Sun and Moon goddess will freak her out.

    is Dumbing!Ethan a brony? I know Dumbing!Danny is, and I know he likes it in Shortpacked!, but what about that universe?

  24. Shadlyn Wolfe
    Shadlyn Wolfe
    May 30, 2012 at 9:26 am | #

    Hooray for Ethan! If you and the world aren’t on the same wavelength, waiting for the world to change isn’t gonna help. Either accept it…or update *your* database!

  25. Cybersnark
    Cybersnark
    May 30, 2012 at 9:34 am | #

    Forget Simpsons, I wanna see Joyce watch God, the Devil, and Bob.

    • Gundi
      Gundi
      May 30, 2012 at 10:30 pm | #

      Meh, from what I saw of the show it wasn’t particularly controversial. God was basically a cool old guy, although the stress of his job sometimes got to him; while the devil was a vain, self-important jerk.

  26. sun tzu
    sun tzu
    May 30, 2012 at 10:53 am | #

    I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship.
    A friendship that will probably be wrecked by one-sided PSL, and by Ethan foolishly playing along, but still.

  27. whoa a person
    whoa a person
    May 30, 2012 at 11:08 am | #

    “Subvert the authority of the Lord God…” wow. I didn’t think she could do it, but Joyce is now managing to make me hate her more every single strip she is in.

    A statement like that only comes from a pretty messed up individual. It’s like instead of just going to church and being christian, she was actually kidnapped by the church and has gone all “stockholm syndrome” for God. You know, like a cult member.

    “No one can speak out against our leader…” the zombies all mumbled as drool hung from their chins.

    How she is going to be an actual friend to Dorothy is beyond me. God do I hate Joyce. I used to like her in “It’s Walky,” but in DOA, she is just insufferable. And she gets the most screen time to boot. If she was more of a side character, fine. But she is a key player in 3/4 of the story lines, and all she ends up doing is making people feel crappy about who they are. I really can’t believe a comic can make me this mad. She needs to get another memory wipe.

    We need more Ruth.

    • vlademir1
      vlademir1
      May 30, 2012 at 1:05 pm | #

      It’s hard to really hate Joyce for me; pity her sure but not hate. If she’d been like this in the main Walkyverse sure one could hate her, but here, where it’s obviously a product of her upbringing, she’s just the typical outcome of a homelife like that of the Guptys’ depicted in the Daria episode Pinch Sitter.

    • Natalie
      Natalie
      May 30, 2012 at 1:18 pm | #

      You do realize that “just going to church and being Christian” means acknowledging and living a life subject to the authority of the Lord God? “Christian” is a relational category (like father or wife or BFF) and not just a set of actions denoting a certain quality of perceived goodness.

      I suppose this is the place where I could accuse you of being brain washed if you don’t occasionally pick up a book of Spurgeon’s sermons, but that’s another discussion 🙂

    • ShawnTheGirl
      ShawnTheGirl
      May 30, 2012 at 4:58 pm | #

      Everybody has issues. These are Joyce’s. Rather than get mad, enjoy the ride of watching her change. Joyce from It’s Walky changed too. Willis actually develops his characters- they all evolve.

      Personally I look forward to it because I went through some similar stuff. Also, while she is in a lot of the stories, she isn’t always the main character- she’s a side note in the Dorothy/Walky thing, and has no involvement in Amazi-girl/Danny.

      Give it time.

  28. Pickle
    Pickle
    May 30, 2012 at 3:27 pm | #

    So which ones DO subvert the authority of God?

    • Pickle
      Pickle
      May 30, 2012 at 3:29 pm | #

      Quotation marks were meant to go in there…

    • Jenny Creed
      Jenny Creed
      June 4, 2013 at 8:07 am | #

      Can anything really subvert the authority of God for you, before you’re ready to question it for yourself?

  29. Mikehatesyou
    Mikehatesyou
    May 30, 2012 at 5:08 pm | #

    I don’t care who your parents are or what is your religion. Everyone can watch the ‘Bob.

    Cause you don’t think spongebob and patrick are gay because you are christian – you think they are gay cause you are a freaking moron and can’t realize this shit is just a kid’s cartoon.

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