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by David M Willis on November 19, 2015 at 12:01 am
  • 01 - To Those Who'd Ground Me
└ Tags: amber, carla, other rachel, rachel

Discussion (444) ¬

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  1. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    November 19, 2015 at 12:02 am | #

    Turns remaining until Amber O’Malley bleeds out: 2 if that damn political banter keeps up

    • Fish Facade
      Fish Facade
      November 19, 2015 at 12:12 am | #

      We all know it will.

    • Ana Chronistic
      Ana Chronistic
      November 19, 2015 at 1:10 am | #

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      • Lia47
        Lia47
        November 19, 2015 at 1:25 am | #

        Nice

    • John
      John
      November 19, 2015 at 1:44 am | #

      In my mind I imagine amber nuking herself with a grenade to avoid talking politics. Bleed out timers don’t mean anything if explosives come into play.

      • Ana Chronistic
        Ana Chronistic
        November 19, 2015 at 8:15 am | #

        she panics and humkers down while flanked, but the Ethereal gets in her mind and says, “LOL NO, YOU HAVE TO LISTEN”

      • Rutee
        Rutee
        November 19, 2015 at 11:28 am | #

        You’d think that, but New XCom disagrees

        • Ana Chronistic
          Ana Chronistic
          November 19, 2015 at 9:28 pm | #

          New XCOM? This one?

          • Rutee
            Rutee
            November 20, 2015 at 12:20 am | #

            To those of us who are old hags, XCOM: Enemy Unknown/Within is itself New XCOM, based on X-Com: UFO Defense (Or X-COM: Terror from the Deep, or X-COM: Apocalypse). XCOM 2 is simply the next New X-COM.

            Mind you, I’m not saying this to demean New XCOM. Pretty much every change they made was quite good, and I was happy that the game was made strategically difficult. I have a couple of complaints, but it was really a very good game, probably better than Old XCOM.

            • Ana Chronistic
              Ana Chronistic
              November 20, 2015 at 12:30 am | #

              I’m rather familiar with Old XCOM, but there are kind of like seven of them now! “New XCOM” isn’t very specific ;p

              • Rutee
                Rutee
                November 20, 2015 at 8:31 am | #

                There should only be 7 counting Interceptor, with a huge time gap between Interceptor and Enemy Unknown. It seemed intuitive to me.

                Though XCOM 2 does seem to be going with a completely different direction, which is nice too.

  2. motorfirebox
    motorfirebox
    November 19, 2015 at 12:02 am | #

    12:03!?

    • Mr. Random
      Mr. Random
      November 19, 2015 at 3:25 am | #

      Yep, the time keeps slipping backwards. Can’t tell by how much and at what interval though.

      • Kryss LaBryn
        Kryss LaBryn
        November 19, 2015 at 7:05 am | #

        Time keeps on slipping, slipping, slipping, into the future…

        • Falling Star
          Falling Star
          November 19, 2015 at 7:51 am | #

          Amber already flew like an eagle.

          • N0083rP00F
            N0083rP00F
            November 19, 2015 at 1:01 pm | #

            To the sea

            • Snugglebutts
              Snugglebutts
              November 19, 2015 at 3:14 pm | #

              Into a windshield.

              • TamiDOA
                TamiDOA
                November 19, 2015 at 4:13 pm | #

                Also into Sal’s arms! (Sounds better than it was.)

  3. Joshua503
    Joshua503
    November 19, 2015 at 12:03 am | #

    And then the comments section exploded.

  4. AutobotDen
    AutobotDen
    November 19, 2015 at 12:03 am | #

    Ahahaha, they snarked about his lack of neck!

    • heyman
      heyman
      November 19, 2015 at 12:04 am | #

      It’s easy to reduce those we don’t like to one main characteristic and not worry about the rest.

      • Agemegos
        Agemegos
        November 19, 2015 at 12:07 am | #

        Having no neck myself, I have been very aware of it for some weeks.

        • Chris2315
          Chris2315
          November 19, 2015 at 1:35 am | #

          Assuming your profile picture is a picture of you, has anyone ever told you that if you grew a mustache, you would look exactly like Ron Swanson?

          • Agemegos
            Agemegos
            November 19, 2015 at 2:14 am | #

            No, people usually tell me that I look like Raymond Burr.

            You perhaps can’t see it because the blond hairs are paler than my skin tone, but I’m actually halfway through growing a beard and moustache in that picture.

            I’m going to look up “Ron Swanson” in Wikipedia.

            • Doc_k
              Doc_k
              November 19, 2015 at 10:29 pm | #

              My mind went to Aaron Burr. I see no resemblance.

          • Agemegos
            Agemegos
            November 19, 2015 at 2:26 am | #

            I think that perhaps people who know me don’t watch Parks & Recreation. Is it broadcast in Australia?

            • maarvarq
              maarvarq
              November 19, 2015 at 6:52 am | #

              It’s in repeats on 7 at about 12:30 am
              http://au.tv.search.yahoo.com/search?p=parks+and+recreation&fr=tvguide-au-ss&fr2=type&ei=UTF-8&section=tvguide

              • Historyman68
                Historyman68
                November 19, 2015 at 8:03 am | #

                With airtimes like that, I can’t imagine why every Australian doesn’t watch it religiously!

      • Tacos
        Tacos
        November 19, 2015 at 12:11 am | #

        Well of you want to get technical, Toedad has two main characteristics: his lack of neck and his toe-shaped head.

        • Disloyal Subject
          Disloyal Subject
          November 19, 2015 at 12:16 am | #

          There’s also his mustache, lack of knees, and massively broad shoulders.
          Oh, and crazed zealotry.

          • Slyfincleton
            Slyfincleton
            November 19, 2015 at 2:09 am | #

            Crazed Zealotry would be a pretty cool band name.

            • Mr. Morningstar
              Mr. Morningstar
              November 19, 2015 at 12:11 pm | #

              beat me to the punch

              • N0083rP00F
                N0083rP00F
                November 19, 2015 at 1:03 pm | #

                Ooooh Yeah.

          • Kamino Neko
            Kamino Neko
            November 19, 2015 at 2:17 am | #

            He’s the Spanish Inquisition of bigot dads.

            • Noclevername
              Noclevername
              November 19, 2015 at 5:24 am | #

              No one expects the Ross MacIntyre!

              • Deanatay
                Deanatay
                November 19, 2015 at 8:53 am | #

                No one respects the Ross MacIntyre!

                Fixed it for ya.

                • Roborat
                  Roborat
                  November 20, 2015 at 4:01 pm | #

                  You should come in again.

          • fogel
            fogel
            November 19, 2015 at 3:46 am | #

            Zealotry Spectrum:

            Crazed <>Sane

            😉

            • OtakuPatriot
              OtakuPatriot
              November 19, 2015 at 7:13 pm | #

              More like:

              Sane > Crazed > ISIS > Marylin Manson

              =D

        • Cephalo the Pod
          Cephalo the Pod
          November 19, 2015 at 1:05 am | #

          Don’t forget the staple-for-a-chin.

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      November 19, 2015 at 12:05 am | #

      I’ve often wondered if some of the minor characters in this comic post in the comments section. For example, at least half the trolls Willis has to ban are actually Mike. Dude has like 200 different email addresses to go through, and plenty of free time due to his sporadic appearances.

      • Durandal_1707
        Durandal_1707
        November 19, 2015 at 12:21 am | #

        Don’t forget Mary. She appears so rarely in the comic, there’s got to be a reason for it.

        As an aside: have you clicked on that “Sports Update” thing that’s had an ad on the left-hand side of this comic for a couple of months now? It’s so weird.

        • Jason
          Jason
          November 19, 2015 at 2:17 am | #

          Ugh, I hate that thing.

          • Durandal_1707
            Durandal_1707
            November 19, 2015 at 5:40 am | #

            What the hell is it? And how does that stupid 30 second YouTube video have a sufficient budget to put ads on this site for months at a time. Also, who puts out ads for stupid 30 second YouTube videos?

            I think this is even more confusing that whatever the hell is going on with Joyce in the other strip.

      • Anywhere
        Anywhere
        November 19, 2015 at 12:21 am | #

        I think Mike would be the kind of person to post comics to various conservative subreddits and let them do the rest.

        No … Mike would just post the comics on tumblr and tell everyone that conservatives are totally mad about this comic on unspecified subreddits, thus creating a tumblr campaign against those subreddits, who would flame in return once they saw the comics.

        • Mr. Random
          Mr. Random
          November 19, 2015 at 3:28 am | #

          Nope, Mike sucks at lying. He,d post to the subreddits then link some tumblr’s to that subreddit. All truth. No lies. Letting people destroy each other.

      • Mollyscribbles
        Mollyscribbles
        November 19, 2015 at 12:23 am | #

        Oh, please. Mike found that site that lets you set up a temporary email for registration or whatever and just uses that for posting.

        • io
          io
          November 19, 2015 at 12:25 am | #

          Mikes username in the DoA comments is ‘David M Willis’

          • Opus the Poet
            Opus the Poet
            November 19, 2015 at 1:56 am | #

            Nope, D.Y.Willis.

    • fizzywafflezsuperstore
      fizzywafflezsuperstore
      November 19, 2015 at 1:07 am | #

      About that snark, it reminds me of a description of a very specific Librarian.

      One who is most certainly not a monkey.
      (If you want to be alive, that is)

      • Bicycle Bill
        Bicycle Bill
        November 19, 2015 at 4:07 am | #

        You mean the former Dr. Horace Worblehat, B.Thau, D.M.?

      • The Lurker
        The Lurker
        November 19, 2015 at 6:24 am | #

        OOOk-OOOK!

    • Darwin
      Darwin
      November 19, 2015 at 4:24 pm | #

      I’m still curious about how they got that c-collar on Toedad. It’s fairly obvious that his skill is fused to his ribcage.

  5. AnvilPro
    AnvilPro
    November 19, 2015 at 12:03 am | #

    I was expecting Carla to figure out her secret. This is the least eventful comic in a month.
    Excellent job Willis!

    • Opus the Poet
      Opus the Poet
      November 19, 2015 at 12:06 am | #

      Carla has figured it out and decided she wants to be Alfred to her Batman.

    • Gangler
      Gangler
      November 19, 2015 at 12:15 am | #

      I’m getting the impression that Carla’s just tactful where secrets are concerned. She knows Amber’s hiding the cause of her injuries, maybe even suspects it has something to do with the incident with the gunman from earlier, but she’s not gonna draw attention to it out in the hallway.

      • Chrissy
        Chrissy
        November 19, 2015 at 12:38 am | #

        Exactly. I suspect she mentioned hurting herself on skates just as Rachel^2 entered to put that thought in their minds.

      • Cerberus
        Cerberus
        November 19, 2015 at 12:39 am | #

        Yeah, if Carla has been the victim of violence before herself, she may also know that forcing someone to talk about it won’t actually help them. Better to just give them a hand and be supportive in case they need to talk…

        Honestly, how nice and non-prickly she is being here (given how she normally goes out of her way to present herself) likely means that she has very much been in the circumstances that she presumes Amber has been in. The politics comment may even be her attempt to open a potential avenue of conversation on the matter if she did feel like talking.

      • GhostWriterL
        GhostWriterL
        November 19, 2015 at 11:38 am | #

        Given Carla is MtoF transgender, secrets, violence, and abuse are likely something she’s all too familiar with.

        She’s also pretty smart and has good observation skills. Chances are she’s put 2+2 together on where she’s seen a somewhat short woman with short brown hair and somewhat large breasts before.

        • David
          David
          November 19, 2015 at 4:17 pm | #

          I don’t think Slipshine-watching is canon in Dumbiverse.

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          November 19, 2015 at 6:30 pm | #

          Let’s not go back to the “It’s obvious Amber is Amazi-girl” thing again. It’s pretty clear that, in-universe, it’s not meant to be.

  6. Cheshrin
    Cheshrin
    November 19, 2015 at 12:03 am | #

    I have never identified more strongly with Amber than I do at that last panel.

  7. Dr-Calamity
    Dr-Calamity
    November 19, 2015 at 12:03 am | #

    Don’t be silly Amber, you have to be at 0 hp to bleed out

    • Dean
      Dean
      November 19, 2015 at 12:22 am | #

      Technically, you need to be at -1 to -9 hp. At 0hp, you can still perform a partial action each combat round.

      • Kelly
        Kelly
        November 19, 2015 at 12:25 am | #

        Not in 2nd ed.

        • Reaver
          Reaver
          November 19, 2015 at 12:32 am | #

          But you can in 5th!~

          • Itama
            Itama
            November 19, 2015 at 12:37 am | #

            you’re both wrong 3rd edition is the only edition! nothing else ever actually existed!

            • io
              io
              November 19, 2015 at 12:48 am | #

              Pathfinder is technically 3rd edition ;-; (just better in all ways)

              • Vincent
                Vincent
                November 19, 2015 at 5:08 am | #

                Ugh. 3rd edition (and PF).

                I’ll tolerate it when it’s in computer game form (e g Neverwinter Nights, Knights of the Old Republic) but as RPGs go it’s not that good*. Which is fine, but people who have never tried different games and played it for years and years won’t shut up about it and how other games are worse than it, somehow.

                Ah well, at least there are some decent figures and GM materials you can steal for other games.

                *Obviously it’s not at the level of FATAL, Synnibar or maybe even RIFTS, but it’s way more popular. And it’s MEDIOCRE.

                • Hijean
                  Hijean
                  November 19, 2015 at 5:40 am | #

                  I’ve recently started running a third ed game. I miss GURPS so much every session.

                • N0083rP00F
                  N0083rP00F
                  November 19, 2015 at 1:09 pm | #

                  Dragon Quest – Had a so so skill mechanic and a great combat mechanic. Third ed kinda used it until the last revision and the sales and marketing monkeys crapped all over it.

              • NotPiffany
                NotPiffany
                November 19, 2015 at 7:28 am | #

                You, sir or madam, are a heathen. And possibly a whippersnapper.

              • Rutee
                Rutee
                November 19, 2015 at 11:30 am | #

                Yeah, its only bad, not awful~

                • N0083rP00F
                  N0083rP00F
                  November 19, 2015 at 1:12 pm | #

                  Avalon Hills Lords of Creation was a kind of awful. Moron Project … cough … I mean Morrow Project was awful in the mechanics where you could die from an untreated paper cut.
                  Then there was all the Judges Guild supplements like crit tables …. read those for a laugh but don’t use em unless you are contemplating suicide.

                • Rutee
                  Rutee
                  November 20, 2015 at 12:23 am | #

                  If we want to talk ‘bad supplements’, there’s the RPGA materials. The Pathfinder core’s better than its starting point, even if it’s still ultimately 3.5.

            • K^2
              K^2
              November 19, 2015 at 1:21 am | #

              And he was worried about this turning into an argument over politics… Oh, and yeah, definitely second.

              • Opus the Poet
                Opus the Poet
                November 19, 2015 at 1:27 am | #

                RPG arguments are better than politics. It’s like arguing over which is better chocolate or vanilla ice cream when some bozo mentions Pecan Fudge Swirl.

                • Disloyal Subject
                  Disloyal Subject
                  November 19, 2015 at 1:34 am | #

                  So would Warhammer 40K be a scone?

                • Opus the Poet
                  Opus the Poet
                  November 19, 2015 at 1:57 am | #

                  No, potato chips. Scones have some nutritional quality.

                • evilmidnightlurker
                  evilmidnightlurker
                  November 19, 2015 at 3:17 am | #

                  Ben & Jerry’s Americone Dream or I riot.

                • Dragon_Nataku
                  Dragon_Nataku
                  November 19, 2015 at 10:54 am | #

                  Haagen Dazs’ white chocolate raspberry truffle or gtfo

              • Gamaran Sepudomyn
                Gamaran Sepudomyn
                November 19, 2015 at 3:53 am | #

                #WinglessWonderForPresident.
                #AlkadaVSAlQuaeda
                …
                Is it weird that I know the name of an obscure monster from a game I’ve never played better than the name of a widespread terroristic organisation.

        • Ana Chronistic
          Ana Chronistic
          November 19, 2015 at 12:33 am | #

          dunno, my soldiers keep taking critical hits and go down with 1 HP, and if a Support doesn’t get to them, they’ll bleed out in three turns

          that’s what they get for panicking at the drop of a pin and shooting each other tho

          • Ana Chronistic
            Ana Chronistic
            November 19, 2015 at 12:34 am | #

            …what are y’all talking about?

            [/XCOM on the brain]

            • K^2
              K^2
              November 19, 2015 at 1:22 am | #

              I don’t know what pushed me to reinstall it today, but I’m glad I’m not the only one.

            • Strife
              Strife
              November 19, 2015 at 6:00 am | #

              Clearly AD&D and Pathfinder 😉

              • N0083rP00F
                N0083rP00F
                November 19, 2015 at 1:15 pm | #

                Should try ADnD with Fellowship of the White Star.
                1900’s horror by gas/electric Light, plus we have Tesla and Rasputin, that other smarmy evil Russian.

          • Rutee
            Rutee
            November 19, 2015 at 11:32 am | #

            Do you have the expansion? It doesn’t change that, I’m just curious.

            • Ana Chronistic
              Ana Chronistic
              November 19, 2015 at 9:31 pm | #

              I have like five copies T_T *is never getting A Continental Fellow*

  8. Tommy Fresh
    Tommy Fresh
    November 19, 2015 at 12:03 am | #

    This is perhaps the most appropriate alt text of all time

    • CommunistCanada
      CommunistCanada
      November 19, 2015 at 12:11 am | #

      I don’t get it. Explanation please?

      • Opus the Poet
        Opus the Poet
        November 19, 2015 at 12:13 am | #

        Comments section.

      • Dave O
        Dave O
        November 19, 2015 at 12:15 am | #

        Don’t scroll down! Comments section stuffed with ill-formed political ramblings! It’s early yet, so enjoy the quiet while it lasts.

    • Jason
      Jason
      November 19, 2015 at 2:19 am | #

      The timing’s off. We got all that out when the gun first appeared.

      • Ana Chronistic
        Ana Chronistic
        November 19, 2015 at 9:33 pm | #

        I assumed the alt-text was talking to Other Rachel, since she’s reading the story

  9. Eric
    Eric
    November 19, 2015 at 12:04 am | #

    The meta conversation with the reader is great.

  10. Mr. Mendo
    Mr. Mendo
    November 19, 2015 at 12:04 am | #

    Amber and Carla should team up and fight crime!

    • io
      io
      November 19, 2015 at 12:07 am | #

      Carla already has the fingerless gloves on, shes just a leotard cape and boots away from an outfit!

      • Plasma Mongoose
        Plasma Mongoose
        November 19, 2015 at 12:28 am | #

        She can wear a shark costume and call herself The Skate.

        • Mr. Mendo
          Mr. Mendo
          November 19, 2015 at 1:15 am | #

          It’ll be just like when Ultra-Car and Amazi-Girl teamed up in Shortpacked, only that was the new Amazi-Girl, who was nice. 🙂

          Then again, she was too sane to be a super-heroine, so there’s that…

      • Undrave
        Undrave
        November 19, 2015 at 1:04 am | #

        Don’t forget a domino mask!

      • N0083rP00F
        N0083rP00F
        November 19, 2015 at 1:16 pm | #

        As oft repeated – No Capes!

        • DSL
          DSL
          November 19, 2015 at 3:52 pm | #

          Capes are necessary for aerodynamics!

          • Mr. Mendo
            Mr. Mendo
            November 19, 2015 at 9:31 pm | #

            And also, they make great weapons in crowds! Just ask French riot cops! 🙂

    • Undrave
      Undrave
      November 19, 2015 at 1:04 am | #

      I really hope they become friends!

      • io
        io
        November 19, 2015 at 1:08 am | #

        Slipshine friends <3

      • Mr. Mendo
        Mr. Mendo
        November 19, 2015 at 1:15 am | #

        And then get some hamsters!

        • Mr. Mendo
          Mr. Mendo
          November 19, 2015 at 1:16 am | #

          …which got bumped under the Slipshine comment. Oh, Rule 34, I can feel you calling in the air, tonight…

          • Kamino Neko
            Kamino Neko
            November 19, 2015 at 6:56 am | #

            … Slipshine and ‘getting hamsters’ do not mix!

            • Falling Star
              Falling Star
              November 19, 2015 at 7:55 am | #

              They sound the same to me.

            • TamiDOA
              TamiDOA
              November 19, 2015 at 10:35 am | #

              They do with duct tape!

              (Ancient Usenet reference. Legendary newsgroup named alt.sex.bestiality.hamster.duct-tape)

              • Mr. Mendo
                Mr. Mendo
                November 19, 2015 at 9:30 pm | #

                I’m intrigued by your logic and would like to subscribe to your newsletter!

    • CaptainBatson
      CaptainBatson
      November 19, 2015 at 2:22 am | #

      All she needs is some goggles, a hooded cape, and a legless unitard

      • Mr. Mendo
        Mr. Mendo
        November 19, 2015 at 9:32 pm | #

        And one of those popcorn popper toys!

  11. io
    io
    November 19, 2015 at 12:04 am | #

    Girls whos names I dont care to know, youre wasting my precious Carla screen time :l

    • Leorale
      Leorale
      November 19, 2015 at 12:05 am | #

      You only have to know one name for both of them, though. It’s efficient.

      • Someone
        Someone
        November 19, 2015 at 12:07 am | #

        Im still trying to figure out which one is rachel and which one is other rachel

        • io
          io
          November 19, 2015 at 12:09 am | #

          I never even realized they had names, mostly because I’m so disinterested in them compared to other characters. Such as the ones normally wearing skates.

          • Deanatay
            Deanatay
            November 19, 2015 at 9:03 am | #

            The two Rachels are the Greek chorus of the girl’s dorm.

        • Viktoria
          Viktoria
          November 19, 2015 at 12:10 am | #

          Other Rachel is the shorter one.

          • Someone
            Someone
            November 19, 2015 at 12:12 am | #

            That makes sense, cause I’m still trying to figure out where Other Rachel was in the Walkyverse, random abuctee?

            • Viktoria
              Viktoria
              November 19, 2015 at 12:19 am | #

              Send Willis an ask on Tumblr? His askbox is open. Hey, while you’re at it, could you ask how to pronounce Dina’s name? That’s been bugging me for a while.

              http://itswalky.tumblr.com/ask

              • Vex Godglove
                Vex Godglove
                November 19, 2015 at 2:48 am | #

                It’s pronounced Deenuh.

                • Clif
                  Clif
                  November 19, 2015 at 8:31 am | #

                  Good to know. I’ve been wondering.

                • Deanatay
                  Deanatay
                  November 19, 2015 at 9:03 am | #

                  Dye-nuh! *ducks hurled tomatoes*

                • Eliot
                  Eliot
                  November 19, 2015 at 10:56 am | #

                  Actually it’s pronounced ‘Throat-Wobbler Mangrove’.

                • Roborat
                  Roborat
                  November 20, 2015 at 4:12 pm | #

                  Stop that, stop that, that is silly. Mind if I call you Bruce instead?

            • John
              John
              November 19, 2015 at 12:23 am | #

              She was a SEMME agent in Robin’s original squad (82). Rachel had an identity confusion subplot with Rachel towards the end of IW!.

            • Amazi-Stool
              Amazi-Stool
              November 19, 2015 at 2:24 pm | #

              When in doubt, ask the WikiWalkypedia!

          • -Sentinel-
            -Sentinel-
            November 19, 2015 at 12:23 am | #

            Her eyes really freak me out.

  12. Leorale
    Leorale
    November 19, 2015 at 12:04 am | #

    I like the Greek chorus effect of the always-slightly-incorrect Rachels.

    • JessWitt
      JessWitt
      November 19, 2015 at 12:07 am | #

      As well as Grace, Mandy and Agatha.

    • John
      John
      November 19, 2015 at 12:08 am | #

      I’unno, I think Mandy and Grace make a better Greek chorus.

      • Rycan
        Rycan
        November 19, 2015 at 2:51 pm | #

        The Greek chorus from Lesbos: Many and Grace!

        • Rycan
          Rycan
          November 19, 2015 at 2:52 pm | #

          Err, Mandy, not Many

    • Plasma Mongoose
      Plasma Mongoose
      November 19, 2015 at 12:16 am | #

      I prefer the Greek chorus of the Shadow Girls from Utena.

      • Opus the Poet
        Opus the Poet
        November 19, 2015 at 12:20 am | #

        Old Skool, gotta love it.

        • Plasma Mongoose
          Plasma Mongoose
          November 19, 2015 at 12:26 am | #

          Do you know, do you know? ^_^

      • QF
        QF
        November 20, 2015 at 4:26 pm | #

        I wonder, I wonder….

        Do you know what I wonder?

  13. shadowcell
    shadowcell
    November 19, 2015 at 12:04 am | #

    this thread is going to be perfect
    the kind of thread of which i’ve dreamed since i was smaaaaaall
    everyone is calling names and throwing links and spitting flames
    and nobody’s making any sense at aaaaaaaaaaaall

    • CommunistCanada
      CommunistCanada
      November 19, 2015 at 12:12 am | #

      I see what you did there.

    • JonRich
      JonRich
      November 19, 2015 at 12:19 am | #

      I don’t know the reference, but I really, really want to. What is it?

      • Disloyal Subject
        Disloyal Subject
        November 19, 2015 at 12:20 am | #

        My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic’s season 2 finale; A Canterlot Wedding, Part 2.

        • Disloyal Subject
          Disloyal Subject
          November 19, 2015 at 12:21 am | #

          Freely watchable on YouTube, it seems. Just google ‘A Canterlot Wedding’ if you’re still interested. Or ‘This Day Aria’ for the song being parodied, if you don’t want to sit through forty minutes of pastel equine shenanigans.

    • Disloyal Subject
      Disloyal Subject
      November 19, 2015 at 12:19 am | #

      Great. Do I read that in Cadence’s voice, or one of Chrysalis’ voices?

  14. OtakuPatriot
    OtakuPatriot
    November 19, 2015 at 12:05 am | #

    Wow. The victim mentality of that girl is amazing. If you’re in a situation where something bad happend–OH WELL BETTER JUST FUCKING DIE. Not like you can have your own agency and take your well-being into your own hands–everyone needs to protect you for your. God damn, people like that seriously piss me off.

    • OtakuPatriot
      OtakuPatriot
      November 19, 2015 at 12:05 am | #

      *happened

      • Stephen R. Bierce
        Stephen R. Bierce
        November 19, 2015 at 12:12 am | #

        “Being dead’s not so bad. You should think of it as therapy. (chuckle)”

        • Opus the Poet
          Opus the Poet
          November 19, 2015 at 12:21 am | #

          Being dead was boring.

          • Chris Phoenix
            Chris Phoenix
            November 19, 2015 at 12:29 am | #

            Richard Feynman’s last words were about how boring dying was.

    • Palamdrone
      Palamdrone
      November 19, 2015 at 12:07 am | #

      What’s the alternative? Not being allowed to buy a gun? Damn, I’d rather be dead than weaponless. ‘Merica!

      • Someone
        Someone
        November 19, 2015 at 12:10 am | #

        My plan (that may be slightly crazy)
        1. Ban guns
        2. Pass out swords to everyone
        3. Any time anyone wants to start shit it will lead to awesome sword battles.

        Guy 1: I am robbing your bank
        Banker: Then good sir, En Garde!

        • Yotomoe
          Yotomoe
          November 19, 2015 at 12:15 am | #

          I prefer Chris Rock’s Solution. Keep Guns the same price but make Bullets Cost $1,000 a piece.

          • Plasma Mongoose
            Plasma Mongoose
            November 19, 2015 at 12:21 am | #

            This will lead to 3D printed bullets.

            • Opus the Poet
              Opus the Poet
              November 19, 2015 at 12:22 am | #

              People are already casting their own bullets for match use or for muzzle loading.

              • Plasma Mongoose
                Plasma Mongoose
                November 19, 2015 at 12:25 am | #

                Hence why Chris Rock’s plan will fail.

                • Yotomoe
                  Yotomoe
                  November 19, 2015 at 12:37 am | #

                  At the very least it would decrease it slightly. People are lazy.

              • Boxilar
                Boxilar
                November 19, 2015 at 5:46 am | #

                It would likely lead to a surgery in the popularity of Old West style cap and ball firearms. Everyone carrying guns would carry cap and ball revolvers. Or a brace of pistols like a pirate.

                • Boxilar
                  Boxilar
                  November 19, 2015 at 5:47 am | #

                  *lead to a surge* need to proof before I post.

              • altalemur
                altalemur
                November 19, 2015 at 8:11 am | #

                gotta agree. my dad makes his own bullets and polishes brass from previously used casings. unless one of the ingredients to bullets goes up, it won’t stop people from making tons of their own.

                here’s a crazy idea: make it as hard to buy guns in Indiana as it is in other states. turns out a lot of violent gun crimes in neighboring states (especially Chicago) are committed with guns bought in Indiana, since it’s so freakin easy to buy them here. i have seen people buy guns at garage sales.

                • bhtooefr
                  bhtooefr
                  November 19, 2015 at 4:51 pm | #

                  This is actually an argument for blue state secession – then, Illinois can set up national-quality border controls, making it harder (certainly not impossible, though) to smuggle guns in.

            • -Sentinel-
              -Sentinel-
              November 19, 2015 at 12:24 am | #

              Or to a thriving black market for bullets, given how many people are stockpiling them.

              • Palamdrone
                Palamdrone
                November 19, 2015 at 12:35 am | #

                Yep, because Obama’s gonna declare martial law the day before election day. Being a patriot means you always gotta be prepared to declare war on the United States.

                • Cerberus
                  Cerberus
                  November 19, 2015 at 12:48 am | #

                  Without getting sucked down too far in the discussion, it is interesting that the type of people who believe that a tyrannical government will arise soon that they will need to ward off with firearms are also the type of people who usually rather like tyrannical governments and see no issue in supporting things like more drones, torture, and expanded executive power.

                • tim gueguen
                  tim gueguen
                  November 19, 2015 at 1:22 am | #

                  Actually only Lou Reed can declare martial law, and he’s no longer with us.
                  (Look it up on YouTube, because I don’t want to accidentally dump a video on here.)

                • fogel
                  fogel
                  November 19, 2015 at 4:03 am | #

                  He came, he saw.

                • Willoughby Chase
                  Willoughby Chase
                  November 19, 2015 at 4:24 am | #

                  Texas has already been invaded.

                • Opus the Poet
                  Opus the Poet
                  November 19, 2015 at 11:10 am | #

                  Texas was invaded in 1865 and the occupation never ceased. 😛 Too many crazies here.

            • Someone
              Someone
              November 19, 2015 at 12:45 am | #

              Wouldn’t they just melt in the casing?

              • Rycan
                Rycan
                November 19, 2015 at 2:53 pm | #

                Everybody jams their guns with plastic bullets. Problem solved!

            • Xerxes93
              Xerxes93
              November 19, 2015 at 12:59 am | #

              you would still have to buy a 3d printer and the materials required to make a bullet. Which is still WAY more expensive than bullets are now.

              • Disloyal Subject
                Disloyal Subject
                November 19, 2015 at 1:38 am | #

                If a 3D printer were somehow superior to casting – of course, it would be for many things, but mass-producing bullets is not one of them – then one could offset the cost by making bullets for sale under the table.

              • Willoughby Chase
                Willoughby Chase
                November 19, 2015 at 4:53 am | #

                So no vomiting or dizziness; that must be a good sign.

                They do make a fine couple.

                • Willoughby Chase
                  Willoughby Chase
                  November 19, 2015 at 4:54 am | #

                  comment ended up in the wrong place. AAAAARGH!

              • Boxilar
                Boxilar
                November 19, 2015 at 5:53 am | #

                The most difficult component of modern ammo would be the brass case of the cartridge. As Opus points out up thread, casting lead bullets is pretty easy, though.

        • Jason
          Jason
          November 19, 2015 at 2:21 am | #

          You just described the plot of “Into the Badlands.”

        • Kryss LaBryn
          Kryss LaBryn
          November 19, 2015 at 7:31 am | #

          You really, really, really need to read this. 😀

    • Yotomoe
      Yotomoe
      November 19, 2015 at 12:11 am | #

      Meh. I’d fight back if my life was at stake but at the end of the day if I’m gonna die I’m gonna die. It’s not like surviving a dangerous situation means I’ll NEVER die. Besides, It’d at least mean one less person overpopulating the world.

    • Anywhere
      Anywhere
      November 19, 2015 at 12:13 am | #

      We’d have a lot fewer fatalities if people just had the gumption to stand up for themselves and catch bullets with their hands.

      • Yotomoe
        Yotomoe
        November 19, 2015 at 12:16 am | #

        Has no one learned from our Turtle Master, Muten Roshi?

        • JonRich
          JonRich
          November 19, 2015 at 12:20 am | #

          You made my morning, good sir.

      • tim gueguen
        tim gueguen
        November 19, 2015 at 12:50 am | #

        Chung Ling Soo would tell you that’s a bad idea.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chung_Ling_Soo

    • Viktoria
      Viktoria
      November 19, 2015 at 12:17 am | #

      How is she supposed to protect herself? Offensive weaponry is really damn good at this point. If someone has a gun ready, they can empty the mag before the average untrained civilian can recognize what’s happening and respond. Combine that with panic, distraction from other screaming civilians, and the fact that she’d hopefully be practicing proper gun safety with how she carries her weapon and it’s suddenly not surprising that civilians with guns haven’t stopped any of the mess of mass shootings we’ve seen.

      • -Sentinel-
        -Sentinel-
        November 19, 2015 at 12:26 am | #

        Yup. Plus, how do the “good guys with guns” tell one another apart from the active shooter?

        • tim gueguen
          tim gueguen
          November 19, 2015 at 12:51 am | #

          By the psychic powers granted by guns, of course.

          • rachel
            rachel
            November 19, 2015 at 1:01 am | #

            *snerk* clap clap clap

        • Seth
          Seth
          November 19, 2015 at 2:13 am | #

          The crosshair on your HUD turns red when targeting an enemy and green when targeting an ally. I thought everyone knew that.

        • Needfuldoer
          Needfuldoer
          November 19, 2015 at 2:54 am | #

          Life has friendly fire turned off, so this is not an issue.

      • Rheinman
        Rheinman
        November 19, 2015 at 12:29 am | #

        Two thoughts:
        1) The incidents that get stopped are not mass shootings, and therefore are not as newsworthy.
        2) Be a pack, not a herd.

        • Shiro
          Shiro
          November 19, 2015 at 12:55 am | #

          You kidding? The press loves a feel-good story about someone standing up to a shooter, we just had a media circus about that what…last month?

      • CJ
        CJ
        November 19, 2015 at 2:59 am | #

        Which of the right-wing douchebags running for US President has made a habit of telling Europeans that (insert random violent event) would have been less horrible if Europeans were carrying guns?

        • Rutee
          Rutee
          November 19, 2015 at 6:34 pm | #

          Trump and Carson, IIRC.

      • Boxilar
        Boxilar
        November 19, 2015 at 5:58 am | #

        There have been a couple of case where a potential mass shooting was stopped by someone with a handgun. They didn’t make more than a blip on the news radar since they didn’t become mass shootings.

        • Rycan
          Rycan
          November 19, 2015 at 3:04 pm | #

          And there have been a handful of cases when a potential mass shooting was stopped by somebody without a gun. Turns out that shooting sprees become a lot harder to accomplish if the shooter has pepper spray in his eyes.

          • Rycan
            Rycan
            November 19, 2015 at 3:11 pm | #

            Oh, and funny note (not funny at all) – in the aftermath of one particular incident, there were confused reports attributing the pepper-spray wielder as an accomplice to the shooter, when he actually stopped the shooter. Fortunately, the police had a better idea of what happened than the media.

    • Adam Black
      Adam Black
      November 19, 2015 at 12:18 am | #

      “Those people” ( victim mentality ) are us , and you, and the entire country, for not fixing the Gun laws to keep them out of the hands of The Russ’s.

      “I mean, YOU’RE not going to do anything about it, are you?”

      • Boxilar
        Boxilar
        November 19, 2015 at 6:03 am | #

        Ross’s specific gun would have been available and legal in countries like Great Britain or Australia that have extensive gun control. His gun was a single shot hunting rifle. If he had never done anything to draw the attention of law enforcement, he would have been able to pass a background check, and likely did if he bought his $1000 rifle from a licensed dealer.

        • Willoughby Chase
          Willoughby Chase
          November 19, 2015 at 2:21 pm | #

          That is a fallacious counter-argument, though.

          Such instances like the McIntyres and guns are rare in the UK or even Australia I would guess. Even though people can own guns like the Varminter, their use is still strictly controlled, more so than the USA where controls and backgrounds are routinely ignored (see the VTec killer for an example), plus, more importantly, there is a cultural weight against using fire-arms in fights, arguments etc.

          As I read it, the main plank for weapon owning is protection against bad people typically invading one’s home. Ross McIntyre (and many like him) has broadened the definition of bad people: the bad people are, in his eyes, anyone trying to break apart his family. They are all fair game for his game gun.

          I don’t think anyone wants that, and no amount of mental health care or training will prevent it when guns are so readily available.

          Further, I don’t think anyone will ever stop any crime. However, it can be reduced to the point where people are more confident in their every-day lives.

          I live in a fairly dodgy urban area in the UK. I’m fairly confident that I can down the shops at night without getting shot at. Pretty certain that I cannot say the same if I lived in a parallel area in the US.

    • Guairdean Beatha
      Guairdean Beatha
      November 19, 2015 at 12:19 am | #

      My sister once asked why I carry a gun. I told her I tried carrying a cop, but they’re way too heavy.

    • Idon'tcarenomore
      Idon'tcarenomore
      November 19, 2015 at 12:21 am | #

      Victim mentality? Yeah I agree. But that is 90% of peoples reaction.

      Including those who think they need a machine gun to take down a deer.
      People who think they need 80 guns in their house.
      And stupid laws that allow all these things to happen.

      • -Sentinel-
        -Sentinel-
        November 19, 2015 at 12:28 am | #

        It’s not their 80 guns I worry about, so much as the mentality that comes with them.

        • io
          io
          November 19, 2015 at 12:32 am | #

          I’m not worried about the 80 guns, I’m worried about the 12 thousand rounds of ammunition. Because 80 guns is thr same as 80 potatos without those 😮

          • Yotomoe
            Yotomoe
            November 19, 2015 at 12:34 am | #

            I dunno. If someone threw a gun or pistol whipped me with it, it’d hurt a HELL of a lot more than a potato.

            • fogel
              fogel
              November 19, 2015 at 4:08 am | #

              You don’t hit someone with a potato, you shove it up their tailpipe; it stops their engine.

            • DarkVeghetta
              DarkVeghetta
              November 19, 2015 at 8:57 am | #

              *thinks of establishing a spud-based martial art*

      • JonRich
        JonRich
        November 19, 2015 at 12:40 am | #

        Actual, full-auto machine guns are all but impossible to own in this country.

        What most people call “assault rifles” are actually semi-automatic, which is the same mechanism in all modern non-revolver pistols. You pull the trigger once, it fires once. If you hold down the trigger, it doesn’t keep firing. However, when you pull the trigger, the mechanism in the gun loads the next bullet into the chamber, so when you want to fire again, you just pull the trigger again, rather than having to do something like cock the hammer on a revolver.

        Functionally, an AR-15 (The “AR” stands for “ArmaLite,” the company which used to make them, and not “assault rifle”) is the same as any other semi-automatic rifle, though it looks pretty dang scary, I’ll admit.

        This YouTube video, hosted by a cop, does an excellent job at explaining the difference between an automatic rifle (machine gun) and a semi-automatic rifle, though the title of the video leaves much to be desired; most people aren’t “lying” when they talk about “assault rifles,” they’re just misled themselves. You can argue about whether they should be banned, but it’s important to get the terminology correct, or when you ban some guns and not others, you may very well ban some you don’t mean to, and leave ones that you meant to ban still legal.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yATeti5GmI8

        • Dr. T
          Dr. T
          November 19, 2015 at 12:49 am | #

          They are not impossible to own, just expensive. There were something like 165,000 legal machine guns that were privately owned before the ban and can be had if you can convince one of their owners to transfer possession to you, though I imagine that it would be an expensive prospect to separate a gun enthusiast from one of such rare items.

          • tim gueguen
            tim gueguen
            November 19, 2015 at 1:11 am | #

            The “cheap” end of the pile is Ingram/Cobray submachine guns , which run between 3 and 4 thousand dollars these days.

        • TamiDOA
          TamiDOA
          November 19, 2015 at 11:14 am | #

          A coworker once told me it was a trivial matter to get a “conversion kit” to make any semi-automatic into a fully automatic. I made him promise to give me a warning before “going postal”.

          • JonRich
            JonRich
            November 19, 2015 at 2:27 pm | #

            There are conversion kits, but it’s not a trivial matter. It’s addressed in the video.

        • Eric Hansen
          Eric Hansen
          November 19, 2015 at 6:56 pm | #

          No they aren’t. You fill out a form, pay your $200 to the ATF, get finger printed, get shipped your gun.

          • JonRich
            JonRich
            November 19, 2015 at 9:04 pm | #

            It’s significantly more costly than that. And either way, the automatic weapons aren’t the ones being used in shootings—semi-autos are. You could argue that automatic weapons shouldn’t be in the hands of private citizens, and I might even agree on that, but taking them won’t save any lives.

        • Roborat
          Roborat
          November 20, 2015 at 4:32 pm | #

          In Canada, when I took my firearms course, the big issue to determine if a semi automatic rifle is called an assault rifle, as far as I could tell, was where the cocking handle was located. If it is on top, it’s an assault rifle, and therefore banned, which I thought was a silly reason to ban a rifle, as it is quicker to cock a standard side action.

    • Shiro
      Shiro
      November 19, 2015 at 12:53 am | #

      I hope you never, ever end up in a situation where you need to find out whether or not that’s true of you.

    • Gangler
      Gangler
      November 19, 2015 at 1:20 am | #

      I mean… yeah, you’re supposed to be protected from that sort of stuff. She’s a 21st century student, not a cowboy in the wild wild west. It’s weird to expect her to be prepared to fight off armed assailants.

      Most societies accept that there’s value in this. That everything functions more smoothly when the cook can just focus on cooking trusting that he is safe. If every cook needs to also be a trained combatant, perpetually wary and ready to slay any gunman that could drive into his kitchen at a moment’s notice, then that’s eating up a lot of time and energy that could be going into his work.

      Even if we’re gonna say America isn’t one of those countries, that it’s the student’s responsibility to protect her own life against any who might try to take it, she’s still only about 20 years old or so. America hasn’t worked that shit into its public education or anything. She’s not gonna become Mathew Quigley overnight, so it does nothing to change her immediate situation. So what, is she just supposed to cross her fingers and hope for the best while she drops out of school and spends the next twenty years training to be an action hero so she can finally take her wellbeing into her own hands? That’s still a systematic problem. If these are the expectations on the citizens then there at least needs to be some protections that ensure she can live long enough to meet them. Can’t just be “Welp, we spent the first eighteen years of your life teaching you literary analysis and trigonometry. Now it’s time for you to be a fully functional adult who never needs any protection ever.”

    • Rosicrucian
      Rosicrucian
      November 19, 2015 at 1:51 am | #

      …it’s you.

      You’re the monster at the end of this book.

    • begbert
      begbert
      November 19, 2015 at 11:06 am | #

      You’re absolutely right, OtakuPatriot. We should all take our well-being into our own hands, like Amazigirl. We should all be mature, mentally-stable people who don’t rely on others for defense, like Amazigirl. Because, as we’ve seen, if you ARE willing to take violence into your own hands, then like Amazigirl you magically become invulnerable to harm. Like Amazigirl.

      Of course, you’re probably actually talking about grabbing a gun from somewhere hauling it around, rather than honing your nonlethal martial abilities. And yes, Amazigirl would be totally better if she had a gun and unloaded it at perceived threats, I mean obviously.

      • OtakuPatriot
        OtakuPatriot
        November 19, 2015 at 7:21 pm | #

        I’m not the one who’s waving around the “gun” comments here. Survival skills would be extremely handy in situations like that. And yeah you can also learn self-defense but don’t mistake it for being invulnerable.

    • Rutee
      Rutee
      November 19, 2015 at 11:34 am | #

      Yeah, thinking you’re John Wayne works out so much better. Unless you mean “run and hide”, but that somehow seems unlikely.

    • Memyself
      Memyself
      November 19, 2015 at 2:07 pm | #

      Okay, you have real world power. So why don’t you fix things so there is never a gun on campus again? I expect you not to waste any more time doing anything else.

      • JonRich
        JonRich
        November 19, 2015 at 2:30 pm | #

        There are 300 million firearms in this country, and the only way to get rid of them would be a massive infringement on civil rights. I’m not even talking about the 2nd Amendment, I’m talking about the 4th Amendment. You’d have to FIND a lot of those weapons, a lot of people wouldn’t turn them in. Are you going to search everyone’s houses? You need warrants for that.

        • Rycan
          Rycan
          November 19, 2015 at 3:13 pm | #

          Even if you throw out the Constitution, the logistics are impossible.

        • Rutee
          Rutee
          November 19, 2015 at 6:39 pm | #

          I’m sorry, have you seen what’s left of the fourth amendment after the last decade? There’s basically nothing left of it at this point.

          But, it’s true. And putting aside the worst, the simple fact is, it’d be slow. But many would turn them in (Especially if you /buy/ them), and restricting further sale would have a strong long-term effect on the gun supply.

          • JonRich
            JonRich
            November 19, 2015 at 9:05 pm | #

            I have seen what’s left of it. It’s been torn to shreds, but that’s not an argument to tear at it even further.

            • Rutee
              Rutee
              November 20, 2015 at 8:35 am | #

              I didn’t have to. Most citizens consider themselves law abiding. If you offer to buy the guns back, you’ll get a huge chunk of the civilian gun supply back. The criminal gun supply has to move to black market pricing, and it will slowly constrict as the illegally kept civilian guns vanish in crimes. It will result in the only civilians having guns being organized crime in relatively short order. And when organized crime is the only civvies with guns, they’re generally not in a rush to use them except against each other.

    • Tenn
      Tenn
      November 19, 2015 at 5:57 pm | #

      Not sure if trolling, but she never said anything about anyone else protecting her, and she wasn’t even specifically talking about herself.

  15. newllend(henryvolt)
    newllend(henryvolt)
    November 19, 2015 at 12:05 am | #

    That’s sort of out of character for you Carla.

    • io
      io
      November 19, 2015 at 12:11 am | #

      Pretty sure its sarcasm, as snark comes out of her mouth as much as air does.

      • newllend(henryvolt)
        newllend(henryvolt)
        November 19, 2015 at 12:16 am | #

        Honestly I could not tell at first.

  16. OtakuPatriot
    OtakuPatriot
    November 19, 2015 at 12:06 am | #

    and
    *protect you for you.
    wtf

  17. QF
    QF
    November 19, 2015 at 12:06 am | #

    Rachel & Rachel: commenting on the terrible events of the nation and on your utter powerlessness to make a difference.

    Thursdays at 9 ET/ 8C!

    • Cerberus
      Cerberus
      November 19, 2015 at 12:48 am | #

      Eh, I’d watch it.

  18. Mada
    Mada
    November 19, 2015 at 12:06 am | #

    And thus when anyone else learns Becky’s last name, there might be some deja-vu, but not much else, because nobody seems to really care about Ross anyway.

    • dailybrad
      dailybrad
      November 19, 2015 at 12:12 am | #

      It’d be funny if someone sees “Rebecca McIntyre” on a form, pauses, and asks if she’s related to Reba.

      • TheGrammarLegionary
        TheGrammarLegionary
        November 19, 2015 at 12:54 am | #

        I actually went and Googled “Rebecca McIntyre” and found a really awesome band as a result. Call themselves “Marmozets”.

  19. Moonshine McGee
    Moonshine McGee
    November 19, 2015 at 12:06 am | #

    You lot are the most wonderful people that will ever have read this page. 13 posts in and it hasn’t gotten inflammatory yet, that’s gotta be some kind of record.

    • Yotomoe
      Yotomoe
      November 19, 2015 at 12:11 am | #

      Don’t worry! I’ll fix that!

      • Plasma Mongoose
        Plasma Mongoose
        November 19, 2015 at 12:14 am | #

        Like you fixed your cat?

      • Amazi-Stool
        Amazi-Stool
        November 19, 2015 at 2:58 pm | #

        The name of that blog actually is “There, i fixed it!“.

    • Adam Black
      Adam Black
      November 19, 2015 at 12:21 am | #

      I wake UP, Inflammatory
      ( and That is not meant as double-entendre )

    • -Sentinel-
      -Sentinel-
      November 19, 2015 at 12:31 am | #

      Willis cultivates a healthy and positive community.

    • Rheinman
      Rheinman
      November 19, 2015 at 12:31 am | #

      Challenge accepted

  20. John
    John
    November 19, 2015 at 12:06 am | #

    Okay, Amber, but how does talking politics compare to suffering in the Death Pits of Dr. Cyborg?

    • Stephen R. Bierce
      Stephen R. Bierce
      November 19, 2015 at 12:10 am | #

      I hear that’s a Sunday Morning talk show on the local FOX affiliate. Airs between The 700 Club and the NFL hypecast.

  21. heyman
    heyman
    November 19, 2015 at 12:07 am | #

    Wow, original comment soutnumber the responses to Jen Aside!

    • Ana Chronistic
      Ana Chronistic
      November 19, 2015 at 12:08 am | #

      well, there are zero Jen Aside posts to respond to…?

  22. Blaxon
    Blaxon
    November 19, 2015 at 12:07 am | #

    I really hope this is leading up to Carla and Amber teaming up to fight crime SHTICKSHIFT NEEDS TO HAPPEN

  23. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    November 19, 2015 at 12:08 am | #

    Scroll down. We have cookies down here….

    • OsoPescado
      OsoPescado
      November 19, 2015 at 12:36 am | #

      *scrolls down excitedly*

      *finds out that “cookies” meant the internet kind, and not the edible kind*

      *sad*

      • Someone
        Someone
        November 19, 2015 at 12:48 am | #

        I’LL MAKE IT THE EDIBLE KIND!!!!….I might need a new monitor

  24. Catullus
    Catullus
    November 19, 2015 at 12:08 am | #

    i scrolled down because i’m a super cool rebel

  25. Rani
    Rani
    November 19, 2015 at 12:09 am | #

    Okay I found a solution to the debate course on this thread. Everybody posting here with an opinion, hold your breath until I post again.

    • Yotomoe
      Yotomoe
      November 19, 2015 at 12:13 am | #

      Wouldn’t that be 100% of us. I mean Ideally. Unless some of us are complete sheep I’d assume we all have opinions.

      • Vincent
        Vincent
        November 19, 2015 at 5:21 am | #

        I don’t know, a lot of sheep can have very strong opinions.

        Mostly concerning food or whether they should headbutt you now or in 15 seconds, but still.

    • Tacos
      Tacos
      November 19, 2015 at 12:35 am | #

      But what if I don’t requiring breathing? I am an edible object of course.

      • Disloyal Subject
        Disloyal Subject
        November 19, 2015 at 1:45 am | #

        Depending on technicalities, we’re all edible.

        • Opus the Poet
          Opus the Poet
          November 19, 2015 at 2:02 am | #

          And taste like bacon.

  26. tnvtr
    tnvtr
    November 19, 2015 at 12:09 am | #

    Is this the first time we’ve actually heart otherrachel speak?

    • Darp
      Darp
      November 19, 2015 at 12:10 am | #

      and no thank you i will not be asian ethan today

    • John
      John
      November 19, 2015 at 12:29 am | #

      No.

  27. Twinkle Toes the Berserker
    Twinkle Toes the Berserker
    November 19, 2015 at 12:09 am | #

    You can’t tell me what to do, you’re not my real dad!

  28. rachel
    rachel
    November 19, 2015 at 12:09 am | #

    hey friends I got an idea

    how about nobody ever engage that otaku patriot dillweed

    yeah? yeahhhhh!!

    have a lovely night <3

    • Porglezomp
      Porglezomp
      November 19, 2015 at 12:13 am | #

      Yep
      yep yep yep

    • io
      io
      November 19, 2015 at 12:14 am | #

      Or are you other rachel?

      • Tacos
        Tacos
        November 19, 2015 at 12:20 am | #

        Maybe they’re other other rachel.

        • rachel
          rachel
          November 19, 2015 at 12:58 am | #

          what’s a rachel got to do around here besides getting born in the 80s and having one of the most common girl wasp names in the universe

          • Tacos
            Tacos
            November 19, 2015 at 4:28 am | #

            At least you don’t have my name. My name is literally Cristian. Without an H goddammit, it annoys me when it’s misspelled.

    • Someone
      Someone
      November 19, 2015 at 12:15 am | #

      Otaku and patriot are not words that normally go together. I don’t think Toe Dad has an obsession with Japanese culture.

      “Your such a baka Becky”

      • Spencer
        Spencer
        November 19, 2015 at 9:51 am | #

        I’ve seen Sonic fanart about how the South will rise again.

        It happens.

      • neeks
        neeks
        November 19, 2015 at 1:22 pm | #

        The OP is referring to the above commenter by the name of OtakuPatriot who feels that Amber has a huge victim complex, not Ross.

        I can understand your confusion; it’d be rad for everyone if we never see Ross again, and given the flow of time IRL as compared to the flow of plot in DoA, even if we do, it will probably be at least six years of our years before we do, since it’s going to take Becky a good few in-comic months to change her mind about ever talking to her butthole dad again. And I highly doubt Joyce will be encouraging her to forgive him, considering how enthusiastic she was about pounding him into the pavement.

        • OtakuPatriot
          OtakuPatriot
          November 19, 2015 at 8:22 pm | #

          I wasn’t referring to Amber, I was referring to whichever girl was like “What would I even do?” The one with the cell phone, I think? Not sure which one is Rachel and which one is Other Rachel.

  29. EvolutionistX
    EvolutionistX
    November 19, 2015 at 12:10 am | #

    Aww, Carla is being sweet. 🙂

  30. syd
    syd
    November 19, 2015 at 12:11 am | #

    There is a difference between talking politics and howling in rage, speaking in the language of talking points, strange and eldritch tongues that can only be expressed at high volumes.

    • JonRich
      JonRich
      November 19, 2015 at 12:42 am | #

      Most definitely! As a political junkie myself, I wish more people knew this. And I wish more people acted that way. Shouting belongs in Skyrim, not in political discussion.

      • Cypherfox
        Cypherfox
        November 19, 2015 at 1:12 am | #

        Fus Ro Davos!

        • JonRich
          JonRich
          November 19, 2015 at 2:33 pm | #

          Davos?

    • Vincent
      Vincent
      November 19, 2015 at 5:22 am | #

      Step 1: Stop thinking in teams.

  31. electromagneticDestroyosaur
    electromagneticDestroyosaur
    November 19, 2015 at 12:11 am | #

    Speaking of politics, will Amber’s long-lost uncle Martin ever make an appearance?

    • JonRich
      JonRich
      November 19, 2015 at 12:41 am | #

      Amber has an uncle? Is he a politician? I don’t understand.

      • Eolirin
        Eolirin
        November 19, 2015 at 1:30 am | #

        Amber O’Malley, Martin O’Malley. Probably not a joke you’d get unless you’re following the Democratic primaries fairly closely, which is kinda the point really. Unless that was *also* snark, in which case carry on.

      • Opus the Poet
        Opus the Poet
        November 19, 2015 at 1:40 am | #

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_O%27Malley

        That “uncle Martin”

        The Other “Uncle Martin”: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Favorite_Martian

        • JonRich
          JonRich
          November 19, 2015 at 2:34 pm | #

          I can’t believe I didn’t remember Martin O’Malley!

          Actually, yes, I can. He’s not particularly memorable.

      • bee
        bee
        November 19, 2015 at 1:42 am | #

        martin o’malley is a US presidential hopeful for the 2016 election.

    • KHNO
      KHNO
      November 19, 2015 at 12:39 pm | #

      I’d prefer the cool uncle Stephen.

  32. dailybrad
    dailybrad
    November 19, 2015 at 12:11 am | #

    I want Amber and Carla to be buddies.

    • Just Me
      Just Me
      November 19, 2015 at 12:13 am | #

      Carla: Hey, Sal! I’d like you to meet my new friend, Amber.

      • io
        io
        November 19, 2015 at 12:17 am | #

        Well to be fair Carla was against curb stomping in favor of sweet pranks during the parking lot fight. Sets her higher in the Amazi-charts I would think~

      • Znayx
        Znayx
        November 19, 2015 at 12:30 am | #

        The rage would be so real

        • Znayx
          Znayx
          November 19, 2015 at 12:33 am | #

          ^To me from the past:

          The word is “Palpable”

    • newllend(henryvolt)
      newllend(henryvolt)
      November 19, 2015 at 12:25 am | #

      well one thing’s for sure amber is a kick ass skater thats been proven so they have one thing in common.

    • Znayx
      Znayx
      November 19, 2015 at 12:29 am | #

      Me too!

    • Spencer
      Spencer
      November 19, 2015 at 9:52 am | #

      I think this could be a great opportunity

    • Spencer
      Spencer
      November 19, 2015 at 9:53 am | #

      (stupid keyboard)

      I think this could be a great opportunity for Amber to sort of understand that Sal isn’t this villainous bogeyman. Carla could prove instrumental in helping her get that.

  33. Just Me
    Just Me
    November 19, 2015 at 12:12 am | #

    Maybe Carla is a Political Science Major.

    • Cerberus
      Cerberus
      November 19, 2015 at 12:52 am | #

      I think she’s supposed to be physics or electrical engineering major with a focus in robotics.

    • Willoughby Chase
      Willoughby Chase
      November 19, 2015 at 5:10 am | #

      Possibly.

      It could be a joke about going to the barbers.

    • fogel
      fogel
      November 19, 2015 at 8:30 am | #

      You mean Pre-Law?

  34. Plasma Mongoose
    Plasma Mongoose
    November 19, 2015 at 12:12 am | #

    Is it too soon to ship Amber/Carla?

    The problem with politics is that as a rule, politicians and lobbyists wins and the people lose.

    • Tacos
      Tacos
      November 19, 2015 at 12:26 am | #

      It’s never too early to ship somebody with somebody else. That’s like, Rule #1.

    • io
      io
      November 19, 2015 at 12:28 am | #

      I’m banking on it being a ship that sails either to allow Danny/Ethan, or because of Danny/Ethan. That height difference will make sweet delicious slipshines.

    • -Sentinel-
      -Sentinel-
      November 19, 2015 at 12:36 am | #

      “The problem with politics is that as a rule, politicians and lobbyists wins and the people lose.”

      And unfortunately, some of these politicians and lobbyists are very good at convincing the people that their interests coincide.

  35. JessWitt
    JessWitt
    November 19, 2015 at 12:12 am | #

    Ah, the apathetic side, where the coin lands on neither heads nor tails.

    • Plasma Mongoose
      Plasma Mongoose
      November 19, 2015 at 12:23 am | #

      I don’t see why we should care about apathy.

      • io
        io
        November 19, 2015 at 12:37 am | #

        Oh ho! ;D

    • ninja_jesus
      ninja_jesus
      November 19, 2015 at 12:52 am | #

      The apathetic side actually describes the person who flips the coin, who doesn’t care about the result.

      • JessWitt
        JessWitt
        November 19, 2015 at 1:53 am | #

        A-ha, good point.

    • Opus the Poet
      Opus the Poet
      November 19, 2015 at 2:04 am | #

      Because it landed in the mud edge first.

  36. Maple Amber
    Maple Amber
    November 19, 2015 at 12:13 am | #

    So I JUST binged Shortpacked! (been reading Dumbing of Age for a while) and I have so much more appreciation for Carla now… so much love…. but all these text bubbles over her and it’s not even her speaking… so sad.

  37. Znayx
    Znayx
    November 19, 2015 at 12:13 am | #

    Step 1:Amber gets to know Carla
    Step 2:Gets her (Amazi-girl) close to Sal
    Step 3:Infiltration complete, now to bust her for something
    Step 4:Gets TOO close to Sal
    Step 5:”Infiltration” complete, ifyouknowwhatimean

    • newllend(henryvolt)
      newllend(henryvolt)
      November 19, 2015 at 12:21 am | #

      When you try to infiltrate you got to make sure you get all up in that.

      • Znayx
        Znayx
        November 19, 2015 at 12:27 am | #

        You can do it, move it just like that. Infiltrate, exfiltrate, infiltrate, exfiltrate… Mmmm, you know you like it.

  38. newllend(henryvolt)
    newllend(henryvolt)
    November 19, 2015 at 12:13 am | #

    Now you see this is a shame because I can actually imagine a bunch of people saying this in real life and it goes to show you that people are not taking school shootings seriously enough anymore because of how frequently it happening now a days.

    • Idon'tcarenomore
      Idon'tcarenomore
      November 19, 2015 at 12:25 am | #

      Agree. I saw someone on a news program say exactly that.
      People are building an immunity to school shootings.

      • Chris Phoenix
        Chris Phoenix
        November 19, 2015 at 12:35 am | #

        People are building an immunity to news coverage of school shootings. Naturally, this is something that news channels would care a lot about.

        Immunity to modern mainstream news coverage is probably generally a good thing.

        • ninja_jesus
          ninja_jesus
          November 19, 2015 at 12:48 am | #

          Not if it’s at the cost of apathy toward real issues.

    • Cerberus
      Cerberus
      November 19, 2015 at 12:55 am | #

      It’s the new normal.

      There’s actually a whole interesting field of theory that has shown up in the last 15 years or so talking about how those who benefit from status quo have had great success in creating a sense of unstoppable inertia about aspects of the world to keep any real movement from building up against it. And the ways youth movements have tried to move around that ennui using things like social media, alternate media, and new forms of education and protest movements that borrow from the queer, feminist, and civil rights movements.

  39. Anywhere
    Anywhere
    November 19, 2015 at 12:14 am | #

    Help I didn’t follow the alt text’s advice.

  40. Tacos
    Tacos
    November 19, 2015 at 12:16 am | #

    So… should I get what the alt text is talking about?

    • Viktoria
      Viktoria
      November 19, 2015 at 12:23 am | #

      Today’s comic obliquely referred to gun control. If you enjoy political debates through anonymous comments, you’re fine. If you’re not crazy, don’t read the comments.

      (Yes, I’m one of the people debating. No, I’m not balanced at all. Glad we cleared that up.)

    • Airyu
      Airyu
      November 19, 2015 at 12:23 am | #

      Comments section

      • Tacos
        Tacos
        November 19, 2015 at 12:45 am | #

        Is it incredibly naive of me to think that we wouldn’t have a buttload of flamewar comments here? I feel like for the most part, the commentators here are pretty smart and not overly discourteous.

    • Jason
      Jason
      November 19, 2015 at 2:35 am | #

      You, Tacos. It’s talking about you.

  41. Just Me
    Just Me
    November 19, 2015 at 12:17 am | #

    Carla’s nicer than I originally thought she’d be.

  42. Someone
    Someone
    November 19, 2015 at 12:17 am | #

    sometimes if i can’t find a comment Ive posted right away, I’ll get worried that I said something wrong and Willis deleted it.

    Wait where’s my comment? Did I do something wrong? Oh God, everyone hates me! I can never come….Oh wait there it is.

    • Darp
      Darp
      November 19, 2015 at 12:24 am | #

      Schrödinger’s Hugbox.

    • No Name
      No Name
      November 19, 2015 at 12:47 am | #

      Lifehack: If you want to find your comments quickly, press Crtl-F and type your username into the little text box that drops down (at least in Google Chrome, it might be a little different in other browsers), then press enter. The screen should auto-scroll to your first comment positionally. Each subsequent enter will auto-scroll to the next of your comments in the list, until you have exhausted the list; then it returns to the first entry. However, since you (Someone) have a fairly common word for your username, you may get some false positives; I count two at this moment.

      • Someone
        Someone
        November 19, 2015 at 12:58 am | #

        It takes a few tries, but thanks

  43. caesaria82
    caesaria82
    November 19, 2015 at 12:19 am | #

    I’mma be happy with this strip no matter what happens, because it’s got my love Carla in it. But I also love how capable and unfazed she is. I want Amber and Carla to be buds, because I like them both so much.

    • io
      io
      November 19, 2015 at 12:23 am | #

      You speakin my language gurrrl.
      Im super pleased that my guest gravitar is Carla.

      • caesaria82
        caesaria82
        November 19, 2015 at 12:29 am | #

        Yessss Carla fandom, unite 😀

        I’ve been mean girl Mary for so long, I’ve almost gotten used to her disapproving mug lol.

        • io
          io
          November 19, 2015 at 12:53 am | #

          Ive been thinking of getting me one of those fancy red names finding my own carla icon to use. Itd be great! Like Carla <3

  44. Foxhack
    Foxhack
    November 19, 2015 at 12:20 am | #

    The alt text should’ve been “never see the comments in Yahoo News posts.”

  45. Guairdean Beatha
    Guairdean Beatha
    November 19, 2015 at 12:21 am | #

    Considering the current presidential candidates, I too would rather bleed out than discuss politics.

    • Idon'tcarenomore
      Idon'tcarenomore
      November 19, 2015 at 12:26 am | #

      Lol. Yes

  46. Idon'tcarenomore
    Idon'tcarenomore
    November 19, 2015 at 12:29 am | #

    Yes, Amber is at least ambulatory.

    I’m glad that Carla has taken over helping Amber, and not taking the questions past, the original,”did you sit on your glasses? With your face’?

    She picked up very quickly on the fact Amber doesn’t want to discuss it, and she needs help. So there is Carla helping and asking non-sense questions.

    Good on Carla.

    • Cerberus
      Cerberus
      November 19, 2015 at 12:57 am | #

      All of this. She knows pushing would be counterproductive and this gets her treated and knowing that someone’s got her back if she does decide she wants to share later. It’s a really smooth and good move on Carla’s part. Especially since she even gives her an excuse with her own story of splitting her head open from skating.

  47. Cerberus
    Cerberus
    November 19, 2015 at 12:30 am | #

    3 things from this comic:

    1) I love the inclusion of how fast information moves in the modern day, where people can reconstruct the events of what has happened around them from twitter feeds and facebook threads mere hours after a tragedy or sometimes during the tragedy itself. It’s a nice little touch to the storyline that connects to how everyone else has experienced it (in fragmented pieces of news gathered on cell phones).

    2) I’m actually curious about Carla’s political viewpoints. Like no joke, being what she is, a trans woman who came out either in Freshman year or earlier with enough negative interactions to assume that a penis on her door was part of an intentional hate crime, her bitter resigned misanthropy feels somewhat more earned than Ultra Car’s in the other universe. Similarly, we know from the other universe that Ultra Car was somewhat political, especially with regards to the terrible rights state of sentient cars in that universe so in this more human universe, how would that translate? Angry queer politics? Radical anarchy? A form of moderate surrender? Or something wholly her own?

    3) This is such an awesome, important moment for revealing Carla’s character.

    I mean, on the one hand, we see that she is used to having to treat her injuries alone. And while we can attribute some of that to the fact that she roller skates everywhere and is a bit punk rock, it’s quite probable that that wasn’t the only reason she had to learn self-reliance and self-injury-repair from a young age.

    She also clearly cares about lending a hand, because she can. And she doesn’t go out of her way to help people. Which means she feels some form of kinship with an individual who is battered and bruised from “mysterious injuries” and is trying to patch it up themselves. And that lends itself beyond that to one of her more reaching out and vulnerable moments (she’s not teasing Amber or being smug or making a big show of being above it all, she’s just lending a hand and even politely requesting a conversation of equals about politics (which could very well be a sore spot for her)). It’s incredibly humanizing and likely means that she’s been in that spot many a time before of being injured and alone.

    And that last bit might be the source of her whole “I’m above it all” persona. I mean, she puts up a big front of being some wacky prankster, but seems hurt when people forget she exists and gets angry when she thinks she’s being targeted for hate. And not to mention the literal “above it all” of her skates. She’s been shown in the past to have some insecurities about her height and how it can be used to “out” her as a trans woman, but she chooses to address it by wearing skates that make her even taller.

    This suggests that this is her main defense mechanism in general. Own what is used to demean you and call attention to it in a “I don’t even care” way so no one thinks to use it against you. Act like you’re above it all and looming and people won’t tease about the height. Act like you’re aloof and beyond caring and people won’t notice that you do want at least some acknowledgment and approval from others. Act like you’re distanced from everyone else then no one can betray or hurt you.

    It’s an easy way to be when you’re not used to having many allies or much support outside a small knit group. And it humanizes her in really critical ways.

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      November 19, 2015 at 12:36 am | #

      That is a great reading. It also is a bit similar to her interaction with Sal where she sneers and snarks but ultimately supports her in her emotional conflicts (unless they are too stupid – as sometimes when Malaya is around)

      • Cerberus
        Cerberus
        November 19, 2015 at 12:59 am | #

        Yeah, she’s really complex and awesome in this universe and I love that.

        Her “I may be developing a crush, but I don’t want to get my hopes up, yeah, I don’t care, but I’m going to happen to hang out near you” with Sal is all kinds of awkwardly adorable.

        • neeks
          neeks
          November 19, 2015 at 4:20 pm | #

          You parse their interactions as Carla having a crush? Huh. I just saw it as a mildly aloof curiosity/”so what’s your deal?” kind of thing.

          • Cerberus
            Cerberus
            November 19, 2015 at 8:39 pm | #

            I’ve pretty much presumed that Carla has at least a mild romantic crush on Sal since this moment:
            http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-5/01-when-somebody-loved-me/humiliate/

        • Rutee
          Rutee
          November 19, 2015 at 6:41 pm | #

          I hadn’t considered Carla/Sal. Not sure if it will persuade me from my deep down desire of Sal/Ruth, but it is interesting, and I approve.

    • Rheinman
      Rheinman
      November 19, 2015 at 12:37 am | #

      Nicely said. And well thought out. It may even be true.

    • io
      io
      November 19, 2015 at 12:42 am | #

      Carla is just generally an interesting character. Who I relate to. Who is also a hottie.

    • NoHeart6265
      NoHeart6265
      November 19, 2015 at 1:03 am | #

      Thanks for the insight. I’ve been quite fond of Carla’s character and I haven’t been able to put my finger on why, but here you’ve laid everything out out.

    • rachel
      rachel
      November 19, 2015 at 1:07 am | #

      holy shit that IS how a dick drawn on your whiteboard would look, oh my god, I’m kinda bummed out I didn’t identify that from the get-go, I’m sorry carla in the past, that’s real shitty 🙁 🙁 🙁

    • JessWitt
      JessWitt
      November 19, 2015 at 1:59 am | #

      Your post is why I voted to see more of Carla in the coming strips.

    • altalemur
      altalemur
      November 19, 2015 at 8:45 am | #

      i am a huge Carla fan as well. i really do hope this convo gives us more of her character. but unless this is an alternate universe with better IU policies…. well I guess it depends. in Dec 2014 Carla would be able to get a student ID with her preferred name rather than legal name. the sensitivity for assigning rooms for transgender students has been around longer, but i’m not sure she’d have been put in Reed. so either Dumbieverse is better than real world IU or Carla has very supportive (and rich) parents and she is legally female by the time she enrolled in college.

      i do think it’s interesting Carla’s helping with a head injury without any prompting from Amber. can’t wait for rest of this week’s strips.

  48. Bagge
    Bagge
    November 19, 2015 at 12:30 am | #

    “You are not going to do anything about it, are you?”

    But Amazie.girl DID! Knowing that is the heroes reward.

    Awww, Carla is nice to the little nerd.

  49. Thor
    Thor
    November 19, 2015 at 12:31 am | #

    All right, you want inflammatory? You got it. Here goes:

    “Someone can just pull out a gun” sounds right, and “someone can just pull a gun on you” also sounds right, but “someone can just pull out a gun on you”?

    Dead. Wrong.

    Your move, Conservalibs.

    • John
      John
      November 19, 2015 at 12:37 am | #

      I’m still trying to get past Carla’s choice of tense for “bust” in panel two.

      • io
        io
        November 19, 2015 at 12:44 am | #

        I assume Carla has some kind of accent that comes from somewhere where that makes sense.

        • Cerberus
          Cerberus
          November 19, 2015 at 1:01 am | #

          Honestly the use of “right open” right afterwards makes me think she’s using a little britishism possibly picked up from british television.

      • random832
        random832
        November 19, 2015 at 12:46 am | #

        There are words that because of ending in -t or -d do not change in past tense. “Burst” is one. In most dialects, “bust” is not.

        • io
          io
          November 19, 2015 at 12:56 am | #

          Way to bust my bubble on this one Joe :c

        • Lumin
          Lumin
          November 19, 2015 at 2:16 am | #

          I read somewhere that the set of verbs that don’t change for past tense has become, or at least is becoming, a lot larger in certain American dialects, especially in informal speech. Now I’m on the spot, I can’t think of an example, but my source provided quite a long list.

  50. Bicycle Bill
    Bicycle Bill
    November 19, 2015 at 12:32 am | #

    The frightening part is that panels three and four could be ripped from yesterday’s newspapers.  “It’s no big deal”; “Hardly anybody got hurt”; “There’s been worse tragedies”; “Nothing has been done so far”; “What would I be able to do about it?” — and the litany goes on.

    • Anywhere
      Anywhere
      November 19, 2015 at 12:43 am | #

      Rachels’ conversation reminds me of the time I had just read the news on the Aurora shooting and felt disquieted, and all my friends around me were like “so what?”.

      Not even nearly the first time people have ever adapted to accept bad events as normal – we all already do this to some extent, just for different things.

      • Opus the Poet
        Opus the Poet
        November 19, 2015 at 1:48 am | #

        I still remember the summer of 1968…

  51. OwenSohmer
    OwenSohmer
    November 19, 2015 at 12:36 am | #

    Why would you do this to yourself, Willis?

  52. ninja_jesus
    ninja_jesus
    November 19, 2015 at 12:43 am | #

    This comic is really angering me, because the Rachels are so accurate in how the general young adult population feels. It’s unfair and disgusting how tougher gun restrictions haven’t gone into effect. Why are gun proponents willing to expose the future of the country to that risk? It makes me so angry, and so sad. There’s no justice in this.

    • KingToasty
      KingToasty
      November 19, 2015 at 1:25 am | #

      Coming from a Canadian point of view: A lot of Americans have a huge, huge gun culture, and basically all gun-wielding Americans handle them responsibly. In a lot of States, owning and using a gun is a massive cultural aspect. It’s like christmas trees or baseball games, it’s a part of a larger community identity, and people always hold that close.

      That being said, I absolutely believe America needs better gun laws. But it’s not a super simple subject and everyone has strong and legitimate opinions about it, both ways.

      • Marie
        Marie
        November 19, 2015 at 3:46 am | #

        As also a Canadian, I disagree, but I’m having trouble wording my examples concisely, so I’m trying again.

        I’d say that there’s less of a thing like Christmas trees about guns, and they’re more like having kitchen gadgets. Lots of people/most people have some because they’re easy and fairly cheap to procure and what if someday you really want star-shaped fried eggs, but it isn’t a bonding thing. Having a right to carry is sort of an identity thing, but that doesn’t mean needing to exercise it constantly is.

        But I’m a bit biased in that I recently read a thread online of people’s every-day-carry shit, and like all of them had a handgun and multiple magazines. That’s not enough to shoot someone in self defense, that’s enough that if you think shit’s going down, you can murder everyone else.

        • Boxilar
          Boxilar
          November 19, 2015 at 6:53 am | #

          The multiple magazines thing is more like “What if I’m attacked by a dozen terrorists. I will need multiple magazines of ammo to fight them off.” This would ignore the fact that said terrorists were shooting back. Life is not an action movie where the good guys shake off lethal wounds and the bad guys have the marksmanship skills of an Imperial Stormtrooper. Most defensive situations involving a gun are over in two or three rounds, one way or the other. In fact, most defensive uses of a gun never involve firing a shot at all. The robber/mugger/rapist sees the gun and decides discretion is the better part of not being shot dead.

          • Marie
            Marie
            November 22, 2015 at 2:57 am | #

            Yeah, I meant to add but was kind of distracted that I get that it’s not meant in a harmful way, more illogical thought processes.But the fact that they do get them (or equip them) for illogical reasons scares me, because that makes murdering the chick who didn’t know what ‘netflix and chill’ meant and now wants out a much easier leap in the moment (and a lot of women (and girls) are killed for rejecting people, in the moment and not)

            • Marie
              Marie
              November 22, 2015 at 2:59 am | #

              “in a harmful way when they purchase them.”

              and also crimes of passion are easier, but less relevant to me being worried

  53. Cat
    Cat
    November 19, 2015 at 12:47 am | #

    Now the way I’m reading this, is that you’re having these college kids obliviously saying, “Gee, what could I possibly do?” and the idea of using the power of their vote to elect political leaders who will prevent guns on campus is inconceivable. And this is going over the heads of all of your commenters, just to prove the point.

    • ninja_jesus
      ninja_jesus
      November 19, 2015 at 1:20 am | #

      To me, the whole political system needs a major reform. I think there are too many no-win scenarios and Pyrrhic victories — usually against poor-to-middle class people and just the public in general — to consider voting as an effective way to affect positive change in the US.

      That being said, I still research politicians and vote, and I think everyone else should do so too. Exercises in futility are healthy for the mind, and there’s always the slim chance of getting the right people elected.

    • WingedBeast
      WingedBeast
      November 19, 2015 at 1:21 am | #

      Depends on where they are and whether or not student IDs will allow them in to vote.

    • squeekles
      squeekles
      November 19, 2015 at 2:09 am | #

      “elect political leaders who will prevent guns on campus”

      Guns are already banned on most campuses. That’s one of the reasons they are such appealing targets. You need to go much further than campus to prevent gun violence.

      • TamiDOA
        TamiDOA
        November 19, 2015 at 11:32 am | #

        There are even politicians who are calling for removing the gun bans on campus! Good luck finding teachers to work where the drunk student they just gave a failing grade to may be armed.

    • timemonkey
      timemonkey
      November 19, 2015 at 8:21 am | #

      The kids who are trapped ina time vortex and will never experience an election?

    • Solenoid
      Solenoid
      November 19, 2015 at 10:27 am | #

      That’s because our elections aren’t decided by the voters. The voters are for the most part locked-in to their votes, with the ones who actually ‘decide’ are a barometer for paid-for political ads. So, really, most of us actually vote when we go shopping, and the people who made the stuff we bought turn around and donate that money to a campaign. Lesson: when you go to the store, know what vote you’re buying.

      • saki
        saki
        November 19, 2015 at 9:09 pm | #

        There are people trying to get money out of politics though, thanks gods. Larry Lessig’s campaign was about that, but since the media completely shut him out of the debates, he ended it. But he’s not alone – check out http://wolf-pac.com/ a group trying to get a constitutional amendment passed.

  54. Anywhere
    Anywhere
    November 19, 2015 at 12:47 am | #

    Anyway, we’re all missing the most important part of this comic, which is that we got SIX more panels of Carla being awesome (i.e. being present in anyway).

    Totally sick head injuries! Am I right??

    • Anywhere
      Anywhere
      November 19, 2015 at 12:52 am | #

      Someday, I hope Carla will become Ultra Carla and have a sweet robot body that doesn’t bleed out and backup memories stored in the cloud in case she busts her head again. And she’ll have a built-in jetpack to propel herself on her rollerskates faster. She’ll be like Inspector Gadget except actually competent like Penny.

      • Tacos
        Tacos
        November 19, 2015 at 1:05 am | #

        Don’t forget the third extendo-arm coming out of her chest compartment so she can flip the fabled triple bird.

    • io
      io
      November 19, 2015 at 12:54 am | #

      I bet were part of the 6% on the poll 😉

      • tim gueguen
        tim gueguen
        November 19, 2015 at 1:15 am | #

        I know I was. And Willis set up the poll so you can only vote once from the same e-mail address, evil dude that he is.

  55. Rukduk
    Rukduk
    November 19, 2015 at 12:51 am | #

    …And shit just hit the fans. Though it is kinda depressing that such a conversation in a comic can cause shit to hit the fans. Why are we ‘Muricans (to distinguish us from the rest of the population of these two continents) so easily riled up?

  56. NoHeart6265
    NoHeart6265
    November 19, 2015 at 1:08 am | #

    I saw Carla in yesterday’s strip and thought to myself, “Huh, I have gay friends, lesbians friends, and bisexual friends but I haven’t had any trans friends.” and an old friend appeared out of the blue today who is now a transgender woman. Life just loves to prove me wrong. It’s funny that way I suppose.

    • Jen Aside
      Jen Aside
      November 19, 2015 at 1:22 am | #

      Ha, I have like THREE transgender friends… transgender WOMEN… who were once named David.

      Funny.

      • Jen Aside
        Jen Aside
        November 19, 2015 at 1:23 am | #

        dang, why’s my iPad logged in as Jen Aside? That ruins one of my other comments =p

        • Lumin
          Lumin
          November 19, 2015 at 2:19 am | #

          *grin* Thought it was just a matter of time.

      • Opus the Poet
        Opus the Poet
        November 19, 2015 at 1:53 am | #

        I have lost count of the trans people we have at my church in various stages of transition from “I know I am, but can’t do anything about it for reasons” to post-op fully functioning as their preferred gender. And from both directions (possibly from all three directions because I don’t pry like that).

        • Marie
          Marie
          November 19, 2015 at 3:48 am | #

          “I know I am, but can’t do anything about it for reasons”

          this is me but I can confirm that I’m not at your church

  57. NF
    NF
    November 19, 2015 at 1:16 am | #

    Who knew that element of the strip would be so topical when it finally ran? Today’s comic is like the webcomic buffer equivalent of splitting your own arrow.

    • SDGlyph
      SDGlyph
      November 19, 2015 at 5:37 am | #

      The Shadow kn… sorry.

      Willis knew. It’s not that hard to be topical when the US averages a mass shooting every day and a school shooting every week.

      • SDGlyph
        SDGlyph
        November 19, 2015 at 6:05 am | #

        Yyyeah, ignore me. I don’t know why I posted that; probably assumed there’d been another shooting I hadn’t heard about yet. Somehow forgot that the pundits are currently going ape about terrorism response rather than gun control. Going for coffee now.

        • timemonkey
          timemonkey
          November 19, 2015 at 8:17 am | #

          Why apologise, your point was perfectly valid.

  58. KingToasty
    KingToasty
    November 19, 2015 at 1:17 am | #

    I’m going to take a controversial stance on the gun law debate and say guns should be fused to peoples’ hands at birth. The guns have to be shaped like dongs and have the Constitution inscribed on the side in comic sans.

    I feel like this is a compromise both sides can agree to.

    • ninja_jesus
      ninja_jesus
      November 19, 2015 at 1:23 am | #

      Do the guns have to be loaded? And do those guns need to be loaded with bullets?

      • KingToasty
        KingToasty
        November 19, 2015 at 1:26 am | #

        They much be loaded at all times, but half the bullets are fakes and it’s impossible to distinguish the real and fake ones.

        • Brute
          Brute
          November 19, 2015 at 2:11 am | #

          perfect.

      • Noclevername
        Noclevername
        November 19, 2015 at 6:31 am | #

        The guns may be empty, but the gun wielders must be loaded at all times.

    • tim guegue
      tim guegue
      November 19, 2015 at 9:07 am | #

      Scary thing is that I read about a crank years ago who figured grade school kids in the US should be issued with guns, and taught to use them in school.

      • Roborat
        Roborat
        November 20, 2015 at 4:42 pm | #

        Wasn’t that long ago that kids actually were taught to use guns at school. Most schools built pre 60s have shooting ranges in the basement/gym.

  59. Derek
    Derek
    November 19, 2015 at 1:39 am | #

    Can someone explain what Rachel said in dumbed down words or something? I don’t understand what she’s trying to say and why it should be controversial…

    • Just Me
      Just Me
      November 19, 2015 at 1:44 am | #

      There are those college students who stage protests over various Issues, including Campus Safety. Then, there are those like Rachel and Other Rachel.

    • Gangler
      Gangler
      November 19, 2015 at 1:47 am | #

      Shooting incidents have been progressively more common in the United States. There’s been a heated national debate going on about what exactly they can do about it due to varying interpretations of the Second Amendment of their constitution, as well as varying opinions on how important that amendment should even be to the conversation. Ultimately very little actually gets done.

      She’s mostly just expressing frustration with the current state of political affairs, but she could be interpreted as vaguely alluding to the need for gun control, which many would argue is unconstitutional, which is where the controversy comes in.

      • The Biggest Tom
        The Biggest Tom
        November 19, 2015 at 8:52 am | #

        Progressively *less common.

        Progressively more *visible.

        • drs
          drs
          November 19, 2015 at 9:27 am | #

          Violence as a whole has gone down a lot since the 1990s, though recently stalled. School shootings in particular have gone up in frequency and total death count in the past few years. Search [school shooting frequency].

  60. Carms
    Carms
    November 19, 2015 at 1:58 am | #

    I am teaching in a Japanese school, and part of what I have been doing recently is practising giving answers/opinions on Issues in English. most of the Issues have centered on Japan because that’s what they know. Especially when we’ve had questions around international relations, there’s been a strong line of ‘It’s our Japanese culture, back away slowly, this shit be important’ (protip ‘tradition’ is not an argument. you gotta have something for why THIS tradition is important. saying ‘it’s tradition’ is like saying ‘it’s blue’. yeah, and?)

    So I had them talk about American gun laws. yay? nay? But prefaced it with ‘the right to have weapons is enshrined in the constitution, it’s important to the culture. you show people the respect you expect to receive. etc’. Now, Japanese people as a general rule are not keen on guns.
    Watching them suppress their own attitudes was…. amusing, I guess. a little sad.

    • JonRich
      JonRich
      November 19, 2015 at 2:50 pm | #

      Which attitudes did they suppress, their “respect for culture” attitudes or their “anti-gun” attitudes? (Their gun laws do seem to work for them, though, their violent crime rate is incredibly low, though there are other factors in play)

  61. NinjaNick
    NinjaNick
    November 19, 2015 at 2:00 am | #

    Let’s talk about football concussions instead, speaking of head injuries.

  62. Brute
    Brute
    November 19, 2015 at 2:16 am | #

    oh man, is Carla going to become amber’s friend and/or amazi-girl’s sidekick? WILD SPECULATION ENSUES.

    • Cabooceratops
      Cabooceratops
      November 19, 2015 at 3:40 am | #

      SCHTICKSHIFT RETURNS!!

  63. 6Qubed
    6Qubed
    November 19, 2015 at 2:52 am | #

    I scrolled down.

    Avenge me.

  64. Reltzik
    Reltzik
    November 19, 2015 at 3:27 am | #

    Amber, Amber, Amber, Amber.

    …. you assume the two options are mutually exclusive.

    After all, if you’re mostly bled-out, you won’t have the strength to get away or fight whoever’s trying to talk politics to you.

    …. since at that degree of exsanguination you’d be in obvious need of care, in a near-unthinking stupor actually, and said person would be trying to toss politics at you instead of actually dealing with your critical emergency medical needs, my money’s on it being a Republican.

    *flees*

  65. Vi
    Vi
    November 19, 2015 at 3:49 am | #

    ABRUPTLY, I WANT AMBER AND CARLA TO KISS.

    • Noclevername
      Noclevername
      November 19, 2015 at 5:30 am | #

      I fully support this viewpoint. CARLAMBER + DANNYTHAN

    • That guy
      That guy
      November 19, 2015 at 12:54 pm | #

      Is there any couple that doesn’t get shipped on these forums? I swear every time there’s only two people in a frame…

      • Vi
        Vi
        November 19, 2015 at 5:05 pm | #

        There is never anything wrong with more lesbians!

      • Tenn
        Tenn
        November 19, 2015 at 5:54 pm | #

        Pfft. Like we need them to be in the same frame. 😛

  66. SDGlyph
    SDGlyph
    November 19, 2015 at 5:26 am | #

    Tin girl has a heart. 🙂

  67. thumb
    thumb
    November 19, 2015 at 5:43 am | #

    Huh, epilogue is the commentary section summary.

  68. erejnion
    erejnion
    November 19, 2015 at 7:56 am | #

    >comic named “necks”
    >nothing related to Shaft in it
    I think I’ve been reading too much Paranatural lately, I’ve started expecting stuff.

    • DarkoNeko
      DarkoNeko
      November 19, 2015 at 1:35 pm | #

      Heh.

  69. inqntrol
    inqntrol
    November 19, 2015 at 8:02 am | #

    That’s so nice of Carla to help her, now I regret not voting her in the poll.

  70. Falling Star
    Falling Star
    November 19, 2015 at 8:10 am | #

    I’d rather bleed out, too.

  71. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    November 19, 2015 at 8:29 am | #

    Carla is bad at starting conversation, eh.

    • inqntrol
      inqntrol
      November 19, 2015 at 9:18 am | #

      At least she tried. Doesn’t that count?

      • DarkoNeko
        DarkoNeko
        November 19, 2015 at 1:35 pm | #

        Sure.
        I find that pretty cute, personally.

  72. izumi ryu
    izumi ryu
    November 19, 2015 at 8:38 am | #

    This is a pretty accurate feel to the event. To the 6 people directly involved, it was a highly dramatic and traumatic event. To anyone else not involved, Ross was little more than an idiot at best. No one died so it doesn’t matter.

    The media response won’t help, focusing too much on the shooting itself and not the kidnapping, which will both exaggerate and belittle the situation at the same time.

  73. Sigurther
    Sigurther
    November 19, 2015 at 8:41 am | #

    I’m with Amber on this one.

    • egwenna
      egwenna
      November 19, 2015 at 8:59 am | #

      Oh yeah.

  74. Sam
    Sam
    November 19, 2015 at 9:43 am | #

    Aaaaaaaaand…makeout!

    No but seriously, as cute as Danny/Amber is, I ship it.

  75. Spencer
    Spencer
    November 19, 2015 at 9:45 am | #

    More Carla.

    More Carla forever.

  76. John Madden
    John Madden
    November 19, 2015 at 10:14 am | #

    >mouse over text says ‘don’t scroll down’
    >scroll down
    >see nothing of note
    I feel jipped.

    • spriteless
      spriteless
      November 19, 2015 at 1:14 pm | #

      well, don’t scroll down if you don’t want to talk about politics.

  77. Lan Mikoto
    Lan Mikoto
    November 19, 2015 at 10:56 am | #

    Amber stop reading my mind. I’m the one who bleeds out at political talks.

    • Chronos
      Chronos
      November 19, 2015 at 11:42 am | #

      Same here.

  78. Eggy
    Eggy
    November 19, 2015 at 12:34 pm | #

    Talking politics is a lot of fun, if you can do it without everyone getting angry.

    That being said, I only have one request of everyone that reads this:

    Vote! It’s an election year next year! Vote in primaries! Vote in generals! Vote!!

    • Eric
      Eric
      November 19, 2015 at 3:57 pm | #

      It’s that ‘if’ that is the problem.

  79. JQuire
    JQuire
    November 19, 2015 at 2:18 pm | #

    Isn’t Amber lucky that Carla is just the right height?

  80. TJ Pittsburgh
    TJ Pittsburgh
    November 19, 2015 at 3:08 pm | #

    Talking politics? This seems fairly relevant . . .

  81. Eric
    Eric
    November 19, 2015 at 3:56 pm | #

    I can definitely sympathise with her on that.

  82. Valis_KR3
    Valis_KR3
    November 19, 2015 at 5:33 pm | #

    Bleeding out is always an option.

  83. zathael
    zathael
    November 19, 2015 at 7:11 pm | #

    Alt text implies comment section to become hotbed of gun control debate.

    Actual mentions of the phrase “gun control”: six, two of which are in this very post.

    For some reason, I find this funny.

    • Just Me
      Just Me
      November 19, 2015 at 7:43 pm | #

      He used Reverse Psychology on us…and it worked.

    • JonRich
      JonRich
      November 19, 2015 at 9:10 pm | #

      I think we’re just generally civil with one another. Here at DoA, we’re essentially an established community. If I were to guess, I’d say that demographically we’re younger, more highly-educated, and more liberal than the general population, but we’re also probably laid back here even if we aren’t laid back about politics everywhere else.

      • a4lbi
        a4lbi
        November 20, 2015 at 12:17 am | #

        Also helps that the comments section is moderated (or screened, at least).

  84. flareonflare
    flareonflare
    March 2, 2016 at 12:32 pm | #

    in australia, nobody gets shot

    though i would make exceptions for scumbag dad of the year

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