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Joe’s been had, alright
I friend-ship Joe and Danny so much
Dream Daddy Danny.
NO
YES
both of you are disgusting
Seems fitting you’re Mary
It was a joke, yeesh. I didn’t say I endorsed it.
*Didn’t say ‘I approved of incest or pedophilia.’ That’s creepy.
This thread just keeps getting more confusing…
I assume that’s what Danni is implying judging from their disgust with the term “daddy”.
Wait, aren’t you talking about the game, and a DD version of Danny?
That’s what I got from that joke…
??
Appropriate avatar has never been more appropriate.
They are referring to a game, a dating simulator called “Dream Daddy”, at least that’s what I think. (It’s a dating simulator for Daddy’s meeting up Daddy’s.)
Wait, I got my plurals wrong (as in, a plural doesn’t need an apostrophe). It should be “daddies”, I believe.
I got the reference, what I’m baffled by is Danni’s insistence that referencing the game makes JessWitt and Brotato disgusting. JessWitt’s assumption that Danni is unaware of the game and thinks it’s an incest reference more or less makes sense, but seems to be a bit of a stretch.
Danny is clearly referencing 50-60’s era slang. Jess is making a joke about a game. I really have no idea where the incest part is coming from. Seems completely out of left field. Danni is vague about their disapproval. My only assumption is they either hate homosexuality or dad’s specifically.
I just assumed it was because Danni read it as the literal definition of “Daddy,” which would imply incest and possibly pedophilia, which could certainly explain the “disgusting” claim. Of course, one has to be very secluded to have not seen previous references to Dream Daddy somewhere, seeing as it seems to be referenced all over the place.
I approve of this reference.
He’s gonna be your dream tonight.
NO.
God yess
Joe strikes me as a Robert; Danny’s more of a Mat.
*sigh*
I mean, I should have known that Joe would be the kind of person to interpret his situation as needing to “swear off all women”, but I’m still disappointed.
hes slow. he’ll get there.
Oftentimes, people who operate in one extreme feel as though the only way to break their previous habit is to switch to the other extreme.
To be fair, in this case it’s not a terrible idea. “Swear off” women, and slowly reintroduce them to himself in order to break the old habits.
Yes, it may actually be the best course for him.
See all the men who are going apeshit about predators getting outed with long thinkpieces about “how they aren’t even allowed to say hello anymore”.
But yeah, he’s definitely still in missing the point and wallowing in rare consequences phase but hopefully when that’s done it’ll be followed up by meaningful growth.
At least his swearing off all women is coming along with making an effort to interact with women as people – even if he’s doing a mediocre job at that. I think he kind of gets what he needs to be doing and is putting the pieces in place to slowly, mediocre-ly do that.
It’s an extreme over-correction, but at least it’s a correction. Limiting his interaction with women to just Joyce, Amber, Dorothy (assuming she’s still speaking to him), and perhaps Leslie until he sorts some stuff out probably isn’t the worst way to go.
Though now I really want to know what’s gonna happen the next time he’s in gender studies.
Overcorrection can become more dangerous than the previous condition.
He’s talked about how he’s a pariah… and yes, that’s probably a factor… but I’m thinking that it’s just as much of a low self-esteem issue. He doesn’t think there’s a “safe” way for him to interact with women — meaning, a way that he doesn’t cause some harm. Not that such a way doesn’t exist in general, but it doesn’t exist for HIM, because he’s toxic. So he quarantines himself. Which fixes… well, nothing, but at least he can tell himself (as he was doing before Joyce set him straight) that at least this way he isn’t hurting anyone.
One of the things about self-esteem issues is that they’re often coupled with a desire to isolate yourself (or aspects of yourself) so that no one else can see them, and there’s a million ways to rationalize that. If one of them (emotionless, meaningless hookups) falls apart, you can just find another.
Well, it does fix some things. He’s no longer harassing women, for example. Which quite likely fixes the problem for the targets of his harassment.
It doesn’t fix his issues, but it’s not all about him.
And instead he’s refusing contact with women on the criterion that they’re women. I won’t weigh which is worse — okay, the harassment was probably worse — but that’s still pretty dang bad.
If Joe doesn’t fix his root problems, they’re going to keep expressing themselves in one nasty way or another.
For the women around him, it’s far better. Nor, as far as we’ve seen is he actually refusing contact with women who approach him, though I don’t believe any have.
This expression of his problems does less damage to those around him.
I personally don’t see the problem. He didn’t cut out his female friends. If anything he’s talking to them as people more often than he did before. People don’t fix everything about themselves instantaneously. Dude needs a break from the ladies almost as much as they need a break from him. Remember like a week has passed in this comic. Nobody can fix them self that quickly.
Well … with sufficient local anesthetic and some rudimentary surgical equipment …
danny, dont call yourself a daddy
BESTIES FOR LIFE CONFIRMED
Now all they need is a dragon.
studENT
Obviously a very studly ent.
It actually took me a moment to get it was emphasizing the “stud” part, and not implying he was some kind of sentient tree.
But if he’s a stud…. huh. I wouldn’t have thought he was in the market for an entwife.
Don’t you know? The entwives are gone.
*plays The Zombies’ “Time of the Season” on a speaker off to a corner of the scene*
Hipster Danny looks pretty sauve.
Calling yourself or being called “daddy” when you’re not actually a dad just seems kinda creepy to me.
That’s the point XD Joe recognizes how weird it is. Asking another man to call you Daddy is very… *very* gay. And Danny is completely oblivious
Danny. Please. Phrasing.
“Seriously, Why aren’t we still doing ‘Phrasing’?”
I am!
(I got the reference, but I am having fun. YOU’RE NOT MY SUPERVISOR)
Do you want a meme-filled comment chain? Because this is how you get a meme filled comment chain.
Combo breaker!
Wait, that didn’t help.
Just imagine my avatar is drinking something.
I can’t decide if Ukulele Hipster is the name of the best drink or the worst drink.
It sounds like it comes with at least three umbrellas in it, if that’s a factor.
Umbrellas are always a factor.
Sounds like something for a Girl Drink Drunk.
So a cross between Pabst Blue Ribbon and a pina colada.
I’m full of bad ideas today.
If you like Pabsta Coladas, and getting caught in the rain
If you’re into Ukies, and have a cool hat…
If you like making music at midnight, pissing off my roommate
Then I’m the love you’ve been looking for, write to me and escape
If you order one, the bartender says “We ran out of ingredients, sorry. I mean, we had all the ingredients LAST month, but there just isn’t the same call for it anymore. But I heard there’s a bar around the corner that still serves them, I guess.” And when you go THERE, they just give you a PBR with a little umbrella in it and say “We’re calling it the Ukelele Hipster” ironically, see?
Unless the bar is the Horrible Revelation in Northampton, Massachusetts, in which case you are likely to just get punched in the mouth by one of the other patrons, likely Faye Whittaker. On the other hand, if you order a “Gentleman Ukulelist,” the bartender’ll rent you an antique tailcoat and top hat so you can take pictures.
No umbrellas. Flag. The drink comes with a flag.
And that, combined with excessive head that ALWAYS runs down the sides and that no one does anything about, is why no one can tell if it’s the best or the worst.
You see, you kinda loop around from best to worst or worst to best when you have an unhandled overflow flag.
You win MAXINT internets.
(MAXINT+1) internets.
So putting those together, it’s +1 internet.
…. good. Either of those alone would have dropped my collected internets into the negative.
….. wait, that’s MINUS one internet.
…. still better than going into the negatives.
How about
| internet | ?
…. is that absolute value, or just piping?
Absolute value.
Is Danny gonna go through the different eras of slang? Like right now he’s 50s Danny so will he next be 60s Danny?
In a few years his slang might actually catch up to the modern day.
In a few years, in-comic, I’ll have passed this mortal plane.
At least Danny’s not saying “swell” and “so’s your old man”. That’s never a good sign.
Oh, I meant a few years in real life. A few years in-comic would be decades in real life at this rate.
I look forward to 1337 h4xx0r Danny and his All Your Base Are Belong To Us references.
Nah, he’s gonna jump straight to A Century Ago Fire Nation Danny.
Flameo, hotman.
+300 Internet points.
Reminder: 1000 points can be redeemed in place of money for a standard single-layer cake or pie. 100 can be traded in for a cookie, cupcake, or other small pastry of your choice.
Not looking forward to Disco Danny…
I can’t wait for ’90’s Danny – Grunge Danny?
Danny your trying way to hard.
He’s having fun
Welp I guess that’s what really matters in the end.
He’s gonna Danny-it up in the end for sure…
It’s dandy daddy Danny.
WHY
Why not?
You forgot “dapper”.
So what you’re saying is Danny needs more d
Joe’s trying, he really is.
Baby steps, but I give him kudos for it.
Joe does not know if he’s being hit on in panel two, nor how to parse this information if he is.
Sworn off all women? Jacob/Joe ship confirmed!
I approve of Danny practicing with such dedication, and Joe voicing his emotional thoughts aloud where before he had trouble with that.
Sorry, Danny, but Gene Vincent is no longer with us, and the Blue Caps didn’t have a ukulele player.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN3VLv3ZSF0
Honestly, I’m enjoying Danny’s evolving fashion sense.
Sorry, my first language is not English… Could you translate what Danny is saying?
And I was starting to feel proud about getting better in understanding your language :'(
Well, first, he is using outdated slang to ask how Joe is feeling, and then offering to play him a song on the ukulele. Then, he is clarifying that by “Daddy” he means another outdated slang term for someone who is cool. (I can’t really specify that any further without knowing what slang terms for cool exist in your first language. I don’t know any non-slang terms that describe coolness properly.)
That last part is a reference to a movie quote (“You had me at hello”) and has the contextual meaning of “You are trying to be supportive and calling me your best friend is totally sufficient in that regard.”
Don’t fret about our language being messed up. We only understand it because we were, like, held upside down by our ankles and dipped into it as children. (This is also why our heels do not speak English.)
I’d say some of our worst heels speak something that can pass for english …
You can read the Wikipedia article on Hipster (1940s subculture), and maybe Beatnik, to get more of a sense of where the phrases Danny is using come from (and also a sense of how outdated the slang is — it is literally decades older than he is).
As it says:
I’m trying to think to myself where I heard/saw the terms used, and I can’t really remember. It certainly wasn’t from any of the primary sources mentioned. I suspect it might have been in cartoons or other parodies on television shows.
Come to think of it, Danny (via David Willis) might have heard the terms the same way.
Thank you, guys. I feel better, because I see it was… deep.
The “Cool” thing has permeated Spanish. The TV has tried to translate it in several ways (like “genial”), but it just doesn’t feel… right.
i’m now thinking about daddy danny
thank you willis
(by thank i mean damn)
But Willis is a dandy daddy. Right?
I was bored and grabbed one of my ukes to play those chords. It’s pleasant.
Is it a song you can think of? Willis is known to do that.
Also for the record Danny’s fashion sense is making me happy, if only because I happen to like hipster fashion/vests and neckties.
If you’re still calling him your “best friend” now that means you’re in this for the long haul Joe.
And I dunno on the Joyce thing. It’s a gray area on both sides.
But Joe’s concerned for Joyce and Danny may not even know it happened yet. Perfectly cromulent thing for Joe to.say. I’m the kind of worrywart who would do the.same thing.
+1 for correct use of cromulent.
Did the Simpsons ever invent an antonym for ‘cromulent’?
The new Danny dresses in style!
Agreed!
He’s cool, daddio. A phrase one feels compelled to use while wearing a red leather jacket.
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/03-the-butterflies-fly-away/hangover/
like the comic- check it daily. coming to it fresh, with out having read any of your others, and i’m really enjoying the characterizations, that the plots are character-driven, and the humor (like the ukulele lmao). also like that most ppl are shown multi-dimensional, and a few aren’t- just like irl. thanks for all the work you put in
my fave comic so far (and it’s a tough choice) is the one where joyce tells joe why she likes her score. VERY unexpected and their relationship seems to be the subtlest romance/friendship, which i’m liking watching joe’s reactions and he is still clueless lol
i really like that you include ASL also, and multiple interpretations of characters like Sal and Amazi-girl
i really appreciate that your characters span the gamut of christian fervor.
i do have 1 question- what is the difference between the “jump to another comic” and the written links? Some are on both, but not all.
I believe the “jump to another comic” box is something supplied by HiveWorks (which is the hosting service for the comic) and the written links are Willis’ own list of friends’ comics.
That makes sense why more of his preferred comics are not pictured. Thanks
You had me at tune
Comic Reactions:
Yes, I’m still sick, but I have energy tonight and miss this.
Panel 1: I like that Willis is showing Danny practicing. Like, this is something he cares about and wants to get right and is putting in the time for and that’s just a beautiful thing.
Panel 2: Ok, I need to give Joe a solid here. Like, I didn’t like some of his teasing before, but Joe here now knows his buddy is bi, so when Danny drops some queer slang accidentally, his first instinct is to check in sympathetically and without judgment even though it makes him a bit uncomfortable.
And then when he confirms that Danny has no fucking clue what he said, he just leaves a relatively neutral comment about checking out Urban Dictionary rather than being catty with him.
He really does care about supporting his friend’s sexuality 100% and it’s a really moving thing.
Panel 3: Danny is a cinnamon roll. That is all.
Panel 4: And this…
Others have commented on it above and yeah, it’s… not uncommon for the type of guy Joe is trying to recover from being, but it’s still… yeah.
Like, this poor-me martyrdom and over-reaction is part of thing of guys like Joe who get caught out and often it is part of a pattern of trying to dissuade call-outs.
Like, over-perform self-flagellation from receiving minor consequences and seeing the scope of shittiness you perpetuated. Make a show about how you’ve “sworn off any contact” with women as if that was the issue, and so on.
Often times when it goes down, it’s part of a ploy, making people feel tired of the emotional labor of dealing with the dude throwing a tantrum and acting like the issue was them being alone with women or being attracted to women rather than very specific predatory and assault-like behavior.
Like, that’s not what’s going on with Joe (I hope). He’s just immature, low on positive male role-models and prone to jags of self-pitying bullshit because he fears fully owning his behavior, actions, and attitudes and how they effect others, but knows he can’t just go back to being a shithead.
Hopefully he’ll get over it and start the real work of improving, but heck, if this is his current attitude?
Well, then, it’s a good thing he’s staying away from women until he sorts his shit out.
Panel 5: And well, it’s a step that he’s even sharing his emotions and worries and fears at all without worrying that “emasculates him”, which is probably why Danny sees through his bluster at the end and recognizes what a big step this is for Joe.
Good to see you back!
I don’t know, is not using words because they might have a sexual connotated meaning I never heard of really the way to go?
There’s loads of stuff in urbandictionary I don’t want to know about, so should I really need to check up there if a word I use has some kinky meaning, too?
I mean, as an ace person who sometimes misses sexual innuendos, I’m fully on the side of hell no, but given his old behavior was to make jokes about making sure Ethan had condoms, I feel this is a very tentative step up.
Advice from an ESL teacher: the amount of innuendo we’ve got, trying to avoid it is a waste of time. Just make sure you know people who’ll point it out instead of laugh at you.
Not that I think English isn’t your first language, I’m just very aware how easy it is to accidentally say weird stuff.
Saying weird stuff. Is that what we’re calling it now?
(Sorry)
((Just not enough …))
Good to see you back in action!
We miss YOU. Take care of yourself.
Joe is a lot about personal branding. He may have picked a rather toxic one to style himself after, and now when he has pulled out he has a hard time knowing what to do with himself (after, what? Two days? I’m sure he will sort it out eventually).
But he recognize Danny’s budding experience in self expression and is good with giving advice.
Hi. Glad to hear you’re getting some energy back.
Hope your recovery is speedy. All the best!
It’s so nice to see your comments down here again! Lovely, lovely analysis as always, Cerberus :3 . When I noticed that you hadn’t been posting recently I was a little worried- I hope you’re feeling better soon!
You’ve been missed.
The Marriage Equality Bill passed the Australian federal House of Representatives half an hour ago, with no changes from the Senate’s version. It is scheduled to receive Royal Assent on Saturday morning. Marriage of gay and lesbian couples, of bisexuals marriage beloved ones of the same sex, and marriages of transsexual and intersexed persons will be legal from Saturday afternoon.
I’m having a big purple cocktail.
I should be going to a Gay Christian Network party this Saturday to celebrate.
When I think of when I was a teen, back when Gay Bashing was a participation sport, and I was so deep in the closet I was in Narnia, I would never have thought this day would arrive.
LOVE WINS!
Cheers!
‘Love Wins!’ will be on my sign at the next rally I attend.
There are typos in my post. I might be a little bit tipsy.
WOOT! I hadn’t followed up on the progress of that after emigrating from Australia a year back, but that’s fantastic news!
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! :DDDDD
Well, he’s not wrong.
Okay, I stopped doing Grav Roulette posts a while back, but I have to do one for tonight, because Grav Roulette has given me Jacob.
I said that I’d accept Jacob as a grav a while back. And I meant it, too.
He’s a pretty great A-level guy. Maybe A+. Maybe I shouldn’t rank men. But he’s got integrity, compassion, a brain. He’s got a goofy sense of humor, even if he doesn’t pun enough. He’s pretty dense but then so am I, so that part fits. He’s religious when I’m…. not, but at least he’s in a pretty acceptably-liberal religion rather than…. not.
But here’s the thing. He’s organized when I’m not. He’s disciplined when I’m not. He gets shit done when I don’t. He NOTICES people when I live in my own world. He’s open when I instinctively equate openness with an opportunity for people to harass me. And all of those things are places where I’m broken, things I NEED to fix about myself, even if it means (as I’m increasingly sure it does) that I have to medicate myself until “myself” no longer exists. All the ways I suck, he’s awesome…
… and that means I don’t deserve a Jacob grav and it means he doesn’t represent me. So I’m just going to keep spinning until I get a Walky, because dammit, at least that’s HONEST.
Yeah, but keep it. As a goal, perhaps.
Who here really deserves to non-ironically have a Jacob grav? If we all got the grav we deserved, what would you be? There’s no one character messed up in my special ways here.
If Jacob has a true strength, it’s that his flaws are very well concealed. Everyone’s messed up somehow, many are just better at hiding it than others.
things I NEED to fix about myself, even if it means (as I’m increasingly sure it does) that I have to medicate myself until “myself” no longer exists.”
Been there, done that, do *not* recommend.
The harder but more effective way appears to be learning how to love yourself. I hit a hell of a speed bump this weekend, but, falling down for a bit did make it clear the huge amount of progress I’d made.
Like, there’s still a part of me really scared of it, but she does tend to be scared of things that help
(Although, surprisingly few medications actually impede my sense of self. They just tend to have other inconvenient side-effects. Medications are just a tool; it’s the way you talked about them that worried me)
Huh, not sure what happened to the start of that quote. If it’s not clear, the whole first paragraph was supposed to be quoted.
He has insecurities about something otherwise Becky wouldn’t have been able to manipulate him like she did here: http://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-8/01-face-the-strange/perfect/
I’m hoping we see something wrong with Jacob soon because, at the moment, the guys just too perfect
Is it bad it took me quite a few seconds to really comprehend Joe’s shirt?
+ Just where does he get these?
Joe’s shirt is perfect though
Are those blue suede shoes I see?
Elvis is dead Willis. I hate to be the one to tell you, but he is.
they’re just converse
Looks like Willis engaged Edward in converse-ation amirite
sadtrombone.com
Don’t kick yourself over it, it made me smile!
Btw, love the schwa in your name.
Danny? The 1950s called; they want their speech patterns back.
On a rotary phone, naturally.
The early 1800s never returns my calls
It may just be really busy. You know, with Napoleon and the War of 1812
Write them a letter. They were reely reely good at that technology.
How many words per minute can you copy on semaphore?
They can have their speech patterns back when they agree to stop sending us their politicians.
*unicorn appears, scoops them both up*
BESTIES ETERNAL
oh god he’s turning into jake english
There are worse fucking things to be, old chap.
(PB’s ears perk up) Homestuck references? :33
The overlap between Danny’s heartwarming embrace of his authentic self, and the fact that ‘self’ rhymes a lot with the most insufferable ironic-but-not tropes of hipster culture makes my urge to smother him with a pillow incredibly problematic.
Hurt (by Trent Reznor, performed by Johnny Cash)
“I hurt myself today // to see if I still feel”
Inspired by Joyce’s injury, perhaps?
“You had me at daddy.” WILLIS STOP IT. hahaha
Chords fit with the key of G major, IV-V-ii. (Or E minor, whichever.) Would that fit with any particular song? Or is he just strumming whatever?
More Dina-related news (should I keep posting these?)
nytimes.com/2017/12/06/science/duck-dinosaur-swim.html
Dinosaur news is always appropriate.
ya know if this continues I’m afraid we will have to have an intervention for danny and his hipster ways.
I find it odd that Danny picked up the ukulele around the same time i did. i mean i know in reality you made this months in advance willis but damn if i don’t feel really dann-ish.
but it’s kinda weird how all the chords hes been doing have been like, stuff i’ve been learning too, it’s really realistic what chords he’s picked up so far. do you know the instrument at all, or just like, look up enough about it to do the strips?
Danny is reminding my of a straight dude I know who quite innocently referred to himself as “Daddy Bear” on a photo of an outing with his son on Facebook.
Definitely one of those, “… Um. Buddy my dude, I don’t think you meant to imply what you just implied… Ahahahaha wow this is awkward.” moments.
Poor, sweet vanilla straight people…
I just hope that “Papa Wolf” never becomes more of a sex thing than it 100% definitely already is
Not sure if it meant to turn out that way but the growth of Joyce, Joe and Danny has been, for me anyway, the most pleasing aspect of this whole
Danny, you’re not beat, you’re merely beaten! You’re not detached, you’re unemployed!
Awful things have happened to Danny and now Joe has to bring him back from the dwrk place he has gone to.
Friends shouldn’t let friends become ukulele hipsters.
me: man, I love danny and joe. I’d read a comic just about them
me a second later: wait, I have, and it was called roomies
Nah ,No such Comic. that’s just a conspiracy theory like Patreon, Illuminati, or talking Robot people.
I came here to yesterday’s comment section to see if anyone knows why today’s comments are closed. Oh well??
Same. Seems odd. Willis normally does it if he anticpates a decent amount of hate or unproductive discussion surrounding the characters or events.
But I don’t know what’s so odd about a vomit-take.
Me too!
I’m guessing it has something to do with Patreon’s “Do be evil” move.
Maybe Willis was anticipating that the first 300 comments would be about “Can you believe this Patreon shit?”
Or maybe he’s busy communicating with other creators in what-can-we-do-about-this mode and doesn’t have time to keep an eye on the comments as he usually does.
The latest Willis teaser is the kind of thing which makes me want to scrimp up pennies to get it. Patreon, you’re not helping yourself.
Indeed. I have also returned to this comment thread to seek understanding. This is….odd.
I’m just kind of assuming that it’s some sort of error – the wrong box checked, or something. I doubt that there’s anyone who would put up a big stink over a little bit of fourth wall breaking.
Comments are back. <EmilyLitella>Nivver mind.</EmilyLitella>
He would probably raise a stink over you calling it “fourth wall breaking.”