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Relentlessly

by David M Willis on December 17, 2018 at 12:01 am
  • 02 - But the Sun Still Shines
└ Tags: amber, joyce, walky

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  1. butts
    butts
    December 17, 2018 at 12:02 am | #

    rip tumblr

    • Opus the Poet
      Opus the Poet
      December 17, 2018 at 12:19 am | #

      Speaking of Butts, whose is that in your avatar?

      • newllend(henryvolt)
        newllend(henryvolt)
        December 17, 2018 at 12:28 am | #

        It’s Billie Booty if I recall.

        • Needfuldoer
          Needfuldoer
          December 17, 2018 at 1:44 am | #

          Yup. Billie flopping down next to Ruth after escaping Lucy’s perpetual morning-person sunshine.

          • Ryan
            Ryan
            December 17, 2018 at 3:50 pm | #

            Nine days ago: http://www.dumbingofage.com/2018/comic/book-9-comic/02-but-the-sun-still-shines/bagel/

      • OBBWG
        OBBWG
        December 17, 2018 at 10:34 am | #

        Further speaking of (B/b)utts, nice Walky posterior in panel 4.

        • butts
          butts
          December 18, 2018 at 12:00 am | #

          i thought about taking it, but i’m kinda really holding out for ethan

          jacob would also be acceptable

          • Br44n5m
            Br44n5m
            December 18, 2018 at 2:16 pm | #

            Don’t worry I got it handled

    • Loz
      Loz
      December 17, 2018 at 5:55 am | #

      Thanks for reminding me

  2. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    December 17, 2018 at 12:02 am | #

    look, she jumped off the bed, no need for additional trajectory

  3. MessyPaint
    MessyPaint
    December 17, 2018 at 12:03 am | #

    Joyce is annoying

    • Sporky
      Sporky
      December 17, 2018 at 12:03 am | #

      Annoyce

      • butts
        butts
        December 17, 2018 at 12:04 am | #

        noice

    • Ivy
      Ivy
      December 17, 2018 at 3:01 am | #

      I cannot for the life of me imagine what Joyce would look like as a real person. She just looks like Spongebob to me.
      What is that hair color? Who has it?

      • BBCC
        BBCC
        December 17, 2018 at 3:31 am | #

        It’s blonde-brown hair. It’s not that uncommon.

        • Ivy
          Ivy
          December 17, 2018 at 3:57 am | #

          I have blonde-brown hair. I don’t recall ever seeing Joyce’s hair color on a human.

          • BBCC
            BBCC
            December 17, 2018 at 4:11 am | #

            I’ve seen it a lot. It’s just hard to classify because it’s right on the line between blonde and brown.

            • Ninjamaid
              Ninjamaid
              December 17, 2018 at 5:34 am | #

              My family calls it mousy. My brother and father went though this shade as they were growing up, born blond, became mousy, now a solid medium brown.

      • djaevlenselv
        djaevlenselv
        December 17, 2018 at 3:48 am | #

        It’s maybe one of the most common hair colours in northern Europe. So much that in my country it’s regarded as the single most boring hair colour in existence. We call it “municipality-coloured hair”.

        Also, I have literally just found out that American popular media call it “bronde” and it was apparently the ‘it-colour’ 3-6 years ago (maybe still)?

      • Zee
        Zee
        December 17, 2018 at 10:44 am | #

        I’ve met real life joyce. She was my best friend in 8th grade.
        Very pretty, big smile, super religious. She would beat me with a ruler if I ever cursed around her and got mad at me for a whole day once because I said gay people are just born that way, then again because I said we don’t know what happened, in terms of creationism vs evolution (which, I was being charitable for her sake. Obviously we know evolution happened). I was only friends with her because we were friends years ago in ballet class and would run into each other periodically afterwards, I had no idea she was so brain washed. I worry about her a lot actually, she should be in some American Christian college by now, and I’m worried the same thing that happened to Joyce will happen to her.
        She had a couple crushes and had to fend off boys a lot, but I don’t remember any warped ideas of love, just that she was really sexually repressed. I wouldn’t be surprised if she had iffy ideas of consent and women’s roles in marriage though.

      • Betty Anne
        Betty Anne
        December 17, 2018 at 2:53 pm | #

        TSwift has it.

        • Yumi
          Yumi
          December 17, 2018 at 2:59 pm | #

          Taylor Swift’s hair is generally blonder than how I’d envision Joyce’s hair, but I could see it being meant to be that color. It’s weird to me when Joyce is referred to as “blonde,” as I see her hair as brown, and that’s how I’d see the real-life equivalent too. I think “mousy” is a good description, but that always pairs with “brown” for me– “mousy brown hair.”

    • SonicBlueRanger
      SonicBlueRanger
      December 17, 2018 at 9:59 am | #

      Well that’s just like your opinion.

  4. Doctor_Who
    Doctor_Who
    December 17, 2018 at 12:03 am | #

    “badger the other rele-” this isn’t going to lead to Joyce having any revelations about her feelings toward Billie or Sal, is it?

  5. AutobotDen
    AutobotDen
    December 17, 2018 at 12:03 am | #

    Damn, Joyce is stronger than she looks.

    • Kris
      Kris
      December 17, 2018 at 12:06 am | #

      I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Joyce is physically the strongest girl in this comic. Stronger than Sal, stronger than Amber. In the running for strongest period.

      • Michael
        Michael
        December 17, 2018 at 6:32 am | #

        I’m intrigued. Why do you think this?

        • Kris
          Kris
          December 17, 2018 at 9:44 am | #

          It’s kind of just a joke on my part. Joyce is in a rather unique situation where she sort of boasts the most amazing feats of strength in this comic. Sal and Amber are better fighters hands down but Joyce has a few standout moments.

          Look at this shit!
          http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/01-to-those-whod-ground-me/strength-2/
          I haven’t seen an official size chart but Ross looks like a huge fucking guy who obviously works out by the size of his arms and chest. Joyce knocked him flying in one punch. Sure adrenaline helps, but don’t try to pass some strength of god shit on me. That’s real power! Amber’s probably closest to her because she pounded the tar out of Blaine and I think Ross and Blaine might be comparable in size. I think Ross is bigger though.

          Then there’s this.
          http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/03-when-god-closes-the-door/frame/

          People will say. “Oh that’s not hard.” I challenge you to go kick in a window frame and all and tell me how hard it’s not.

          That’s about it really. Not much but more than most people who have only really done stuff like lift chairs. I think Ruth flipped Blaine once? Sal and Amber are great fighters but did send a huge guy flying with one punch? No. They were having trouble with Ryan and his legion of average sized dude bros. This isn’t a hardcore battle manga so stuff like that isn’t really the focus. I’m sure all of this can easily be disputed but until then Joyce kind of stands at the top of that small hill.

          • BBCC
            BBCC
            December 17, 2018 at 6:52 pm | #

            Becky said Toedad is around Sal’s height. So 5’7ish. He is a big guy, but if you’re good and pissed off and have adrenaline spiking, you can definitely knock him flying. She also describes him as ‘a fleshy shuttlecock’ so I suspect he’s not as much muscle as you’d think at first glance. Ditto for kicking in a window frame – especially since they’re specifically harnessing Joyce’s fury.

            • Kris
              Kris
              December 17, 2018 at 10:07 pm | #

              Ross is only 5,7? That seems low balling it to me. I mean I wasn’t thinking he was 6ft or anything but he seemed taller than 5,7. I’m also guessing around 300lbs. That’s a substantial amount. You can argue adrenaline sure but that doesn’t discount what happened. Still one of the most impressive feats in the comic. Mostly because no one else has gotten into many physical confrontations.

              The window thing is more unclear. I’m not sure you can summon adrenaline on command and if you can I doubt Joyce has that ability. That power was hers. Becky couldn’t kick that window in and Jocelyn didn’t even try. Both of them definitely weaker than Joyce and so is Walky apparently.

              • David M Willis
                David M Willis
                December 17, 2018 at 10:24 pm | #

                ross is a short little dude, yes

      • Roborat
        Roborat
        December 17, 2018 at 3:27 pm | #

        Okay, I have to ask, how would one determine which girl has the strongest period?

    • Foxhack
      Foxhack
      December 17, 2018 at 12:11 am | #

      THE POWER OF JESUS COMPELS HER

      No seriously I’ve met a lot of Christian girls that are strangely stronger than they appear.

      • threePwny
        threePwny
        December 17, 2018 at 12:36 am | #

        They gotta be when they’re fightin’ SATAN HIMSELF

      • Betty Anne
        Betty Anne
        December 17, 2018 at 3:08 pm | #

        When you believe you can do anything, you generally can do anything.*

        *Within the range of limitations of a human body
        **Which does not include walking on water. Attempts to walk on water end in sadness and hilarious Vines/YouTube fail videos. ^^;

        • Roborat
          Roborat
          December 17, 2018 at 3:28 pm | #

          I live in northern Alberta, I can walk on water about six months of the year.

          • BarerMender
            BarerMender
            December 18, 2018 at 11:15 am | #

            I know. Let’s see you do that on the Sea of Galilee.

  6. brionl
    brionl
    December 17, 2018 at 12:03 am | #

    Boombox: It’s like a MP3 player, only huge and ugly.

    • Stephen Bierce
      Stephen Bierce
      December 17, 2018 at 12:06 am | #

      Boombox: It’s like a Bluetooth speaker, only with a radio and a tape cassette deck included–and no Bluetooth.

      • Tacos
        Tacos
        December 17, 2018 at 12:20 am | #

        But then people will ask what the heck is a tape cassette deck.

        • Needfuldoer
          Needfuldoer
          December 17, 2018 at 1:47 am | #

          That thing old cars have, with the cable coming out of a big slot that you have to plug into your phone because Bluetooth wasn’t invented yet.

    • RacingTurtle
      RacingTurtle
      December 17, 2018 at 12:36 am | #

      Looks like it has big bug eyes, eats your tapes, electrocutes you, can’t be trusted.

      • Clif
        Clif
        December 17, 2018 at 12:57 am | #

        I had several of those.

    • Marsh Maryrose
      Marsh Maryrose
      December 17, 2018 at 12:56 am | #

      I have a really good musical memory, and I can “hear” a piece of music in my head without any actual playback. I used to refer to this as my “internal Walkman.” Some years later, I called it my “internal iPod.” But now, I don’t have a meaningful reference. Because…

      The idea of a separate handheld device just for playing music is pretty much gone. Radio is still important, and vinyl makes periodic resurgences, but mostly I listen to music on my computer when I’m at home, or on my phone when I’m not. And both of those devices are used for a lot of other things besides music.

      I’m trying to remember what happened to my last boombox. I remember that I kept it because it was the only way for me to play cassette tapes, and then the cassette player stopped working and it was no longer of any use to me (computers had already taken over the CD playing role.)

      • not someone else
        not someone else
        December 17, 2018 at 2:02 am | #

        Internal Spotify/app of choice? (I know that’s not the point.)

  7. AnvilPro
    AnvilPro
    December 17, 2018 at 12:04 am | #

    To be fair, this is pretty cute

  8. BBCC
    BBCC
    December 17, 2018 at 12:04 am | #

    Oh jesus christ someone please give this girl a DRASTIC intervention on relationship health.

  9. Kris
    Kris
    December 17, 2018 at 12:04 am | #

    Rom coms aren’t great examples of how romance and relationships work in real life…..Also I hate Walky. Never not a good time to say that.

    • Antonio
      Antonio
      December 17, 2018 at 12:08 am | #

      So… I know that Walky was pretty immature earlier in the semester (Dorothy was insane to go out with a guy who expressed his feelings by throwing a toy at her head), but he’s had some development since then. He still has major character flaws (such as the way he handles his calc class) but he’s also showing development.

      What do you hate about him?

      • Doctor_Who
        Doctor_Who
        December 17, 2018 at 12:12 am | #

        Even the calc thing is getting a little bit better. This story is kicked off by Walky not immediately taking an excuse to skip out on math, and trying to find out if it’s legit.

      • Kris
        Kris
        December 17, 2018 at 12:16 am | #

        I mean I’ve said this multiple times before and I don’t want to rant. Short version is he’s immature, cartoonishly so. His problems get solved for him. He has it too easy if that makes sense. And he’s just annoying in general. He’s not someone I’d like in real life.

        • Nono
          Nono
          December 17, 2018 at 12:23 am | #

          His problems also feel… small scale compared to most of the cast? I know, that’s not quite fair to Walky. But when people are freaking out about PTSD, accepting their sexuality, racial abuse, grounds for firing… Walky being unable to cope with bad grades and poor study habits just seem immature.

          • BBCC
            BBCC
            December 17, 2018 at 12:27 am | #

            On the other hand, Walky’s problem is also very common and it’s nice seeing more run of the mill less serious issues. Maybe Walky’s not your style, but it’s also nice with other characters.

          • threePwny
            threePwny
            December 17, 2018 at 12:38 am | #

            It makes him one of the most relatable to me because, hey, I dropped out of college after two years because depression crushed my academic ability so hard that I literally couldn’t do schoolwork. Maybe Walky’s not dealing with clinical depression, but that’s still some real shit to deal with.

          • Zee
            Zee
            December 17, 2018 at 10:59 am | #

            I really don’t think its fair to draw that sort of comparison. It’s that kind of academic struggle that almost drove me to suicide in high school (I’m all good now). I get what you’re saying but its still a bigger problem than what he’s faced before and thus it will impact him negatively

        • BarerMender
          BarerMender
          December 17, 2018 at 12:25 am | #

          Plus, he doesn’t bathe regularly nor wash his underwear. He’s too lazy to tie his shoes, forchrisesake.

        • chris73
          chris73
          December 17, 2018 at 12:26 am | #

          Yeah this, because of the way he was brought up hes just an unlikable person. I’m not surprised he doesn’t have any male friends at all.

          • Needfuldoer
            Needfuldoer
            December 17, 2018 at 1:53 am | #

            Yeah, sometimes around here we forget that Linda and Charles ruined two kids.

            • BBCC
              BBCC
              December 17, 2018 at 2:04 am | #

              The fact they’re not doing Billie any favours either but they’re still the best parental figures she has hurts me deeply.

        • Kris
          Kris
          December 17, 2018 at 12:38 am | #

          Also something I can’t turn a blind eye to in light of last chapter. Walky was totally complacent in Sal’s treatment. I know he was a child for some of that, but it seems like he didn’t even have her back! That’s horrible, and it seems he was either ignorant or didn’t care and I don’t know which is worse. He caved when Leland threatened him after witnessing that little twerp nearly kill Marcie! Not a good look Walkman…not a good look.

          • Leorale
            Leorale
            December 17, 2018 at 12:51 am | #

            College is a great time to learn that you’ve been privileged.

            Iirc, Sal confronted Walky about it — although it was hard for him to accept for a couple days, he thought about it, sought more info from Billie, and realized Sal was right. Once he did, he made changes, and was angry on Sal’s behalf, which she appreciated.

            • Leorale
              Leorale
              December 17, 2018 at 1:01 am | #

              And Leland was much bigger and fightier than 13-yr-old Walky. (Plus, their parents have been very clear that their love is conditional on being a good kid, and not a hoodlum, so that doesn’t help him stand up to bullies, either.)

              Lazy, though, yeah. Definitely can’t argue that.

              • Kris
                Kris
                December 17, 2018 at 1:27 am | #

                I understand the rationale and it’s fine and good that they made up, but that doesn’t really change anything. Walky didn’t have to fight Leland, especially since that kid was dangerous and crippled people with sharp rocks, but he damn sure could’ve spoken out! He was a witness. Sal doesn’t look so bad when she’s not the only one telling the story. That’s all water under the bridge now but it’s a big mark on Walky’s character to me.

                • BBCC
                  BBCC
                  December 17, 2018 at 1:40 am | #

                  I think it’s a little harsh to blame a kid for not wanting to speak up against a bully actively threatening them. That’s hard even for adults. That said, there were definitely times Walky made things worse for Sal, like him asking for cookies for being in bed, which drew even more attention to Sal not being. Some people read it as him trying to distract his mom, but at 12-13, he should’ve seen where that would go.

                • Leorale
                  Leorale
                  December 17, 2018 at 2:31 am | #

                  Yup, I read the cookies thing as Walky being a little jerk, as siblings generally are. (I have two brothers, and that read very realistically like getting on your sib’s nerves!)
                  I’m glad they’re finding new ways to relate to each other.

                • ego
                  ego
                  December 17, 2018 at 11:13 am | #

                  the zeitgeist contains a lot of arguments in the vein of “X is bad for not standing up to genuine evil bastard Y effectively enough” these days. y’know, this argument really depends upon X having a significant amount of agency and security to be valid.

                  sal was failed very badly by *nobody* having her back when she was in serious difficulty. however, multiple adult-type people around her were specifically invested with authority FOR THE OSTENSIBLE PURPOSE of the care-taking of children. walky was not one of those.

          • Loz
            Loz
            December 17, 2018 at 6:03 am | #

            “He caved when Leland threatened him after witnessing that little twerp nearly kill Marcie!” hmmmm… I’m not sure how you intended that to sound, but it sure sounds like “he avoided confronting a guy who he knew was really dangerous”

            I mean, I like Walky for a bunch of reasons including that he’s like a hyperbolic version of my best friend, but I understand that he’s disgusting and annoying and lacks a spine. But also, fighting Leland was Sal’s mistake, and I think Walky probably saw it that way too, like “why do you keep picking fights with this brute, Sal, just give him what he wants and then ignore him the rest of the time like I do”.

            • Kris
              Kris
              December 17, 2018 at 9:26 am | #

              *sighs* Look I said I didn’t want to rant about this but I hope you realize that’s not a good thing. Bullies like Leland thrive in environments where no one stops them. He was that dangerous because he could get away with it. No fighting wasn’t the right call. I’m not asking for that. The whole message of last chapter was that violence only escalates. The real question was why was Sal forced to confront Leland in the first place. Because no one had her back. Her parents didn’t believe her (or more accurately they might of believed Sal but chose to shift blame to Marcie based on Linda’s opinion of her) and her own brother was too cowardly to back up her story.

              http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-7/01-glower-vacuum/landed/

              Also just a side note: How the FUCK did that teacher not see Walky getting blatantly threatened right in front of her!?

              Tattling is not hard and if somehow Walky faced some blowback for that from Leland then it probably would’ve gotten Leland in actual trouble since Walky is more favored than Sal. But Sal was the only one as implied here.

              http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-7/01-glower-vacuum/liability/

              Disembodied principal voice says “Daughter” not “children”. Walky said nothing. Just ignoring him like the rest of us do is how Marcie got pushed down a pit into rocks and exposed bar in the first place.

              (Also frankly…Billie might deserve a little disdain for that too. She was a witness as well. They all only get a pass because they’re kids.)

              But that’s just a small part of the Walky annoyance package. Okay I’m done. Not gonna rant about this anymore. These are just my opinions. No offense toward you Loz or anyone that likes Walky.

              • thejeff
                thejeff
                December 17, 2018 at 10:44 am | #

                OTOH as you say “How the FUCK did that teacher not see Walky getting blatantly threatened right in front of her!?”

                It’s not really a side note. When the authority figure ignores the blatant threats, it just reinforces that “tattling” won’t help and will just get you in trouble without any consequences to the bully.
                Tattling is actually hard. Even without the actual threat from the bully, social pressure against it is huge at that age.

                • Kris
                  Kris
                  December 17, 2018 at 11:00 am | #

                  Using my own evidence against me huh?…..*squints angrily*…Well played I guess. I’ve got nothing for that. I’d go on but like I said I’m done ranting. Still don’t like Walky but maybe he had good reasons to stay complacent even if I don’t agree with them.

                • thejeff
                  thejeff
                  December 17, 2018 at 2:47 pm | #

                  I don’t know whether I’d say “good” or not, but understandable, especially for an elementary school kid.

              • BBCC
                BBCC
                December 17, 2018 at 2:11 pm | #

                I don’t think the takeaway from the last arc is supposed to be violence is bad. I don’t think we’re supposed to think it was wrong for Sal and AG to be beating the shit out of those guys who were trying to harass rape victims. I DO think we’re heading towards fighting smart though – finding ways to stop people like them without splash back on other people or escalating things (at least too much).

            • TemperaryObsessor
              TemperaryObsessor
              December 17, 2018 at 7:19 pm | #

              Walkie was not obligated to almost certainly getg beaten up to help Sal, especially when the teacher ignored blatent threats right in front of her. This does not mean Sal’s decision was wrong.
              The school basically chose Leeland’s side.
              Rereading the discussion with Sal’s parents. I think the school was saying even if Leeland was in the wrong and Sal was in the right we don’t care. Were going to pretend any harm that comes to Marcie didn’t happen because if she goes to anybody about it we believe she will get in more trouble than us, and if you bring this up with anyone else well what do you think will happen to her little friend. But Leeland’s parent has pull.

  10. Yumi
    Yumi
    December 17, 2018 at 12:04 am | #

    I imagined Amber bring sturdier than that, but I guess in the moment…

    • Yumi
      Yumi
      December 17, 2018 at 12:07 am | #

      *being

    • Clif
      Clif
      December 17, 2018 at 12:08 am | #

      She rolled with it.

    • DinaWho
      DinaWho
      December 17, 2018 at 12:09 am | #

      Taken off guard. Confused by the situation, and while she could probably handle a collision with a Walky-sized mass and stay on her feet, she isn’t expecting Joyce to just shove him at her.

      • Yumi
        Yumi
        December 17, 2018 at 12:09 am | #

        Well, she should be.

      • Marsh Maryrose
        Marsh Maryrose
        December 17, 2018 at 12:17 am | #

        Who wouldn’t be confused by Joyce? She lives in an alternate universe, congruent but not identical with our own.

        • Clif
          Clif
          December 17, 2018 at 1:01 am | #

          Oddly, I find that applies to many people. Reassuringly it doesn’t seem to be the same alternate universe.

    • newllend(henryvolt)
      newllend(henryvolt)
      December 17, 2018 at 12:27 am | #

      Oh you damn well she let it happen.

  11. Kern Wallace
    Kern Wallace
    December 17, 2018 at 12:04 am | #

    Cue the chirpy pop rock.

  12. Bagge
    Bagge
    December 17, 2018 at 12:04 am | #

    Joyce, I know you love showing off your work, but you are in the middle of a scheme.

    • ValdVin
      ValdVin
      December 17, 2018 at 8:54 am | #

      Nice callback.

      • Bagge
        Bagge
        December 17, 2018 at 8:59 am | #

        Thanks, I’m proud of that one 🙂

  13. foamy
    foamy
    December 17, 2018 at 12:08 am | #

    That girl needs *help*.

    • King Daniel
      King Daniel
      December 17, 2018 at 12:18 am | #

      I dunno, I think Amber’ll be fine.

      • Bagge
        Bagge
        December 17, 2018 at 12:59 am | #

        Sure, now she will, when Joyce is helping her get together with Walky.

  14. lilyliv
    lilyliv
    December 17, 2018 at 12:11 am | #

    Okay, so I was raised in a similar environment to the one Joyce was, and my first relationship legitimately WAS just this Nice Guy from church badgering me until I finally agreed to go out with him because my family and friends wanted me to. Honestly, all things considered, Joyce is un-brainwashing herself impressively fast, but also I want to wrap her in a blanket and tell her that a lot of romcom tropes are actually propaganda to excuse creepy and/or abusive behavior.

    • lilyliv
      lilyliv
      December 17, 2018 at 12:12 am | #

      (Meet Cutes, on the other hand, are an excellent trope.)

      • Clif
        Clif
        December 17, 2018 at 1:04 am | #

        Thank you for not linking to the great time sink of the universe from which few return.

        • Jon Rich
          Jon Rich
          December 17, 2018 at 3:40 am | #

          Hahaha, brilliant line there. That website is so wonderful.

        • lilyliv
          lilyliv
          December 18, 2018 at 12:09 am | #

          Gonna be real, I was tempted. But I’ve probably spent months total in that great time sink, so I wouldn’t do that to you guys.)

  15. newllend(henryvolt)
    newllend(henryvolt)
    December 17, 2018 at 12:12 am | #

    There now you two are where Garbage belongs, on the floor where you both can be a beutifal mess together.

  16. Marsh Maryrose
    Marsh Maryrose
    December 17, 2018 at 12:12 am | #

    WHATEVER A BOOMBOX IS!

    Willis is now officially an Old Fart.

    One of these days he’ll retweet something about an Atari 2600, as if some of us didn’t have a freaking ADM-3A as our first “gaming console.”

    • Marsh Maryrose
      Marsh Maryrose
      December 17, 2018 at 12:22 am | #

      Actually, now that I think about it, a DECWriter was my first gaming console. “Hammurabi, I beg to report to you….”

      • Clif
        Clif
        December 17, 2018 at 1:07 am | #

        My first gaming console was a Sigma 7 and you submitted punch cards.

      • StClair
        StClair
        December 17, 2018 at 4:17 am | #

        How many acres do you wish to plant with seed?

    • David M Willis
      David M Willis
      December 17, 2018 at 10:28 am | #

      Ffft, Atari 7800, I’m not THAT old

  17. Opus the Poet
    Opus the Poet
    December 17, 2018 at 12:15 am | #

    Doesn’t anybody in this comic besides Dina understand the concept of boundaries? Just asking.

    • chris73
      chris73
      December 17, 2018 at 12:28 am | #

      Well Walky could have said something but being that hes a passive little nothing I guess its not surprising

    • HeySo
      HeySo
      December 17, 2018 at 1:53 am | #

      Well, it’s college. Boundaries are a weird thing to expect. 😛

  18. Tacos
    Tacos
    December 17, 2018 at 12:15 am | #

    You want visceral? Wait’ll those two start making out on the floor. There’s your visceral.

    • Delicious Taffy
      Delicious Taffy
      December 17, 2018 at 12:24 am | #

      How did you steal my comment? I hit “send” and everything. You must be some form of internet wizard.

      • newllend(henryvolt)
        newllend(henryvolt)
        December 17, 2018 at 12:25 am | #

        No, obviously he’s a time traveler.

        • Yumi
          Yumi
          December 17, 2018 at 12:27 am | #

          He could be both.

        • Tacos
          Tacos
          December 17, 2018 at 12:53 am | #

          Well I am ageless.

          I still get carded when going to the movies or buying video games ~_~”

  19. DailyBrad
    DailyBrad
    December 17, 2018 at 12:27 am | #

    So much cuteness contained here

  20. John
    John
    December 17, 2018 at 12:30 am | #

    Now just start making out and see how far you can go before Joyce gets uncomfortable and leaves.

  21. Uly
    Uly
    December 17, 2018 at 12:32 am | #

    Joyce just no. No. NOooooooo. This is actually even less healthy than the purity culture garbage you’ve also imbibed since birth.

    • Ragingagnostic
      Ragingagnostic
      December 19, 2018 at 1:36 pm | #

      After Joyce’s horrific experience wherein some preacher’s son tried to force himself on her, you’d think that she would see just how wrong this type of behavior is. You don’t just physical cram two people together (or in this case shove someone hard into another being) and think that romance automatically blossoms.

  22. chris73
    chris73
    December 17, 2018 at 12:33 am | #

    Well I’m hoping this is an arc where Joyce starts to realize just how warped her views on relationships are, I’d hoped that it might have been the storyline with Jacob and Raidah where she learnt but better late than never

    • regina phalange
      regina phalange
      December 17, 2018 at 12:39 am | #

      Maybe she’ll learn some from Dorothy’s reaction to all this? Dorothy’s preaching isn’t getting very far, but her natural reaction to finding out Walky moved on might lead to an epiphany of some sort for Joyce? She clearly doesn’t think Dorothy and Walky were classically “in love,” so Dorothy being…not unfazed might surprise her.

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      December 17, 2018 at 12:46 am | #

      The story with Jacob and Raidah isn’t over yet.

      • chris73
        chris73
        December 17, 2018 at 12:53 am | #

        I hope the storyline goes differently this time, Joyce was such a nasty, selfish little bongo in the one

      • Clif
        Clif
        December 17, 2018 at 12:54 am | #

        Yep.

        • Clif
          Clif
          December 17, 2018 at 1:11 am | #

          That was a yep to BBCC.

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        December 17, 2018 at 6:40 am | #

        Yeah, she’d decided to back off, but that hasn’t been tested by actually seeing Jacob again.

  23. ShinyNeen
    ShinyNeen
    December 17, 2018 at 12:34 am | #

    Always amusing to be reminded of the ways in which Joyce was raised to think the world works. Amusing, and also low-key horrifying >.>

    • abysswatcher1993
      abysswatcher1993
      December 17, 2018 at 1:04 am | #

      Christian fundamentalism and Twilight are bad role models. How is it that she likes vampires but doesn’t like biological sciences?

    • HeySo
      HeySo
      December 17, 2018 at 1:58 am | #

      In fairness, this ends up being more of a criticism of the typical approach Hollywood (or young adult novels) has toward romance than it ends up being a criticism of Christian upbringing.
      But the fact that the film industry mostly releases tropey, superficial, and utterly forgettable content isn’t news to anyone, I’m sure. 😛

  24. regina phalange
    regina phalange
    December 17, 2018 at 12:48 am | #

    I was awaiting the inevitable “Dorothy gets hurt by Walky moving on so fast and for once drops her stoic rationalist facade,” but the more time that passes, the more I wonder if she’ll take THAT in stride–but be hurt when she finds out Joyce actively tried to facilitate it. Joyce is supposedly her friend and KNEW she loves Walky, but she’s ignoring that to service her fantasies of “love” and to ensure more time with Dorothy. It’s one thing to be supportive of Walky trying to move on, but *this* would be hurtful. And I don’t think Joyce realizes that, so I can easily see her proudly admitting this to Dorothy.

    • regina phalange
      regina phalange
      December 17, 2018 at 12:56 am | #

      (Also, wondering if Amber is so happy to see Walky because it’s the next day, and she assumed his sister already told him what went down so she’s taking his appearance as a sign he’s cool with it all?)

      • Emily
        Emily
        December 17, 2018 at 7:08 am | #

        God, that would be the most Amber way to handle the situation: pretend she doesn’t have to.

    • chris73
      chris73
      December 17, 2018 at 12:58 am | #

      That’s not a bad point, Joyce has certainly tested Dorothy’s boundaries recently what with tracking her down on the toilet and Joyces behavior towards Raidah at the restaurant so it might be interesting to see what Dorothy thinks about it all

    • Ivy
      Ivy
      December 17, 2018 at 3:06 am | #

      Whatever. Dorothy broke up with Walky so she can freaking deal with him dating something else. I don’t care about these kids’ stupid dating “problems”.

      • BBCC
        BBCC
        December 17, 2018 at 4:15 am | #

        Just because Dorothy broke up with him doesn’t mean she’s not allowed to be sad about it or regret it later, especially if she finds out he moved on quickly. Now if she’s rude to either of them or tries to sabotage the relationship, that’d be crappy, but if Dorothy does so, I’ll eat my metaphorical hat.

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        December 17, 2018 at 6:43 am | #

        That must be frustrating.
        “these stupid kids’ dating problems” are like half the comic.

        • MatthewTheLucky
          MatthewTheLucky
          December 17, 2018 at 4:14 pm | #

          The rest is Amber and Sal punching people.

          • BBCC
            BBCC
            December 17, 2018 at 6:53 pm | #

            AND Sarah knocking the shit out of rapists with ball bats.

            I refuse to let anyone ever forget that moment. It was GLORIOUS.

      • Zee
        Zee
        December 17, 2018 at 11:11 am | #

        Man, must suck to have to read a drama comic about college kids then huh?
        She dumped him, yeah, but she’s allowed to have feelings yknow

  25. pjeseb
    pjeseb
    December 17, 2018 at 12:49 am | #

    …So, the second “O” on Walky’s ROBOTS shirt has been replaced by Also known as “the Machine Hell.”

    I’m not sure if that’s a visual pun, a total accident, or some very dire foreshadowing.

    • pjeseb
      pjeseb
      December 17, 2018 at 12:50 am | #

      • pjeseb
        pjeseb
        December 17, 2018 at 12:51 am | #

        Well, damn, you’d think I would get better at this as time went on, instead of worse.

        Here’s the page I was trying to link to:

        https://mtg.gamepedia.com/Phyrexia

    • pjeseb
      pjeseb
      December 17, 2018 at 12:52 am | #

      replaced by the symbol of Phyrexia

  26. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    December 17, 2018 at 12:52 am | #

    Ok. It’s imperative for this to work but Walky MUST fall into her tiddies. Either land his face in her cleavage or land with a hand on them. Or both. And if Amber doesn’t go “Kyaaaa” and blush while enacting cartoonish physical violence, they’re doomed.

    • abysswatcher1993
      abysswatcher1993
      December 17, 2018 at 1:05 am | #

      That barely worked in Gurren Lagann. Only case where the male protagonist isn’t accused of being a pervert.

      • Loki
        Loki
        December 17, 2018 at 4:14 am | #

        You are forgetting Neon Genesis Evangelion, where Rei is iirc just like “would you please get down from me”

    • Nobody
      Nobody
      December 17, 2018 at 2:26 am | #

      I think Joyce is going the american romcom route rather than the Japanese anime route but similar enough ideas

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        December 17, 2018 at 6:47 am | #

        Yeah, pretty sure anime wasn’t allowed.

        • Emily
          Emily
          December 17, 2018 at 7:11 am | #

          Especially not the brand Yotomoe is referencing that relies heavily on fanservice and women responding to unwanted advances from men with violence.

          • thejeff
            thejeff
            December 17, 2018 at 10:57 am | #

            Though I doubt her parents would have looked closely enough to know the difference.

            • BBCC
              BBCC
              December 17, 2018 at 12:23 pm | #

              They probably saw/took part in some of those anime = porn ideas.

    • Roborat
      Roborat
      December 17, 2018 at 3:36 pm | #

      Or his head has to somehow be inside her panties.

  27. abysswatcher1993
    abysswatcher1993
    December 17, 2018 at 1:02 am | #

    I am more interested in the “unexpected romance between a hero a former villain that no one saw coming but you are glad it happened”. That is the butter of my daily toast.

    I also like “healthy relationship that isn’t the main focus of the story, and because of that it can survive the drama of the plot”.

    I am such a Karkat Vantas.

    • Thulcandran
      Thulcandran
      December 17, 2018 at 11:49 am | #

      I’m staying with my family for a week of pre-holidays, and my dad, being A Dad, was watching The Rat Patrol, which is a stereotypically 1960s-era “badass war heroes” show. All I could think of, watching the American/German leaders confront each other, was, like… were they actually going for barely-disguised sexual tension? Because that’s all they’re portraying on the screen. Pure foe-yay.

      I think the mutually-respecting hero-villain dynamic basically calls for that kind of unexpected romance.

  28. Leorale
    Leorale
    December 17, 2018 at 1:06 am | #

    As horrifying as Joyce’s romcom ideas are, it’s interesting that she’s not putting a gender on who has to be the creep.
    Are there movies where the girl badgers the boy into True Love?

    • Zee
      Zee
      December 17, 2018 at 11:14 am | #

      Not usually. When that’s the case the girl is usually labelled crazy and actually treated like a stalker

    • Dafydd
      Dafydd
      December 18, 2018 at 3:17 pm | #

      Bringing Up Baby. It’s one of the all-time greats of the “screwball comedy” genre. (Also the first instance of someone using “gay” to mean “homosexual” in a movie.)

  29. Moon
    Moon
    December 17, 2018 at 1:10 am | #

    Ehhh I still can’t get on board with Walky/Amber. Still makes me cringe.

    • regina phalange
      regina phalange
      December 17, 2018 at 1:36 am | #

      Same. Even beyond the baggage–and there’s a ton of it–I personally am not really invested because I don’t see this relationship as good for either of them. They’re happy and attracted to each other, but they ultimately just give each other excuses to stay in stasis, the same stasis that makes them hate themselves when the other isn’t around to distract them.

      • Deadjolras
        Deadjolras
        December 17, 2018 at 4:17 am | #

        I feel the same way. I want to be happy for them, I really do, but I just can’t bring myself to root for them like other commenters do.

      • Guest42
        Guest42
        December 17, 2018 at 12:24 pm | #

        I never viewed walky as self loathing except during the time he was post breakup. Pre dating I would not say he hated himself.

        • Regina Phalange
          Regina Phalange
          December 17, 2018 at 2:20 pm | #

          I agree he didn’t go full self-loathing until the break-up, but given that he was able to appreciate “garbage roof” well before the breakup because his grades sent him into crisis indicates those tendencies were always there.

    • Ivy
      Ivy
      December 17, 2018 at 3:08 am | #

      Nah, they’re cute and happy and play video games together. I wish I could have a relationship like theirs.

      • StClair
        StClair
        December 17, 2018 at 4:20 am | #

        One that enables them to keep avoiding/hiding from their serious unresolved issues?

        • Daibhid C
          Daibhid C
          December 17, 2018 at 1:20 pm | #

          You say “keep avoiding/hiding from” I say “stop obsessing futilely over”.

          Basically, what I’m hearing here is that people with issues shouldn’t do things that make them happy; they should be miserable all the time until they’ve resolved the issues. The trouble is, people who are miserable all the time don’t resolve their issues, they (and by “they” I mean “we”) just sit there being miserable.

          • thejeff
            thejeff
            December 17, 2018 at 6:32 pm | #

            Basically, what I’m hearing here is that commenters take everything to the most extreme level.
            No one wants them to be miserable until they resolve their problems. Some of us are concerned that putting two people with established patterns of avoiding/hiding from their problems are going to amplify and excuse those tendencies in each other. And we’ve already seen signs of that, most notably the whole “changing the grades” thing.

        • Fart Captor
          Fart Captor
          December 17, 2018 at 2:16 pm | #

          Both of them already had bad habits of avoiding serious problems before they ever got together.

          Being in a relationship didn’t cause that. It just hasn’t magically fixed it, either.

          • Regina Phalange
            Regina Phalange
            December 17, 2018 at 2:34 pm | #

            Just because the relationship didn’t cause their avoidance issues, doesn’t mean it’s not making it worse. And it is, mostly for Walky. Amber *actively encouraged* avoiding the grades issue by offering to just change his grades, and when he rightly decided he didn’t want to go through with it, she did it anyway. That is the exact kind of behavior that makes Walky’s #1 issue much more of a problem (we’ll assume, even if it’s probably not true, Amber has effectively solved the heartbreak problem). Plus, good for Amber that Sal just handed her a coping mechanism for her problems, but she wasn’t going to get that from Walky, and she clearly needed someone to help her find an outlet.

            • BBCC
              BBCC
              December 17, 2018 at 2:50 pm | #

              I doubt the coping mechanism is going to fix everything too. Amber needs serious therapy, and things aren’t going to get better until she does.

              But yeah, it’s worth pointing out if anyone finds out she hacked those grades, both Amber and Walky are getting kicked out of school. Which is why nobody with authority is gonna find out, because that would make it very hard for them to stay in the main cast.

            • Fart Captor
              Fart Captor
              December 17, 2018 at 4:36 pm | #

              All that time Walky spent on the roof with Amber almost certainly was a major part of why Walky ended up changing his mind. He was finally comfortable enough with his limitations that he stopped freaking out about failing.

              I don’t see what doing roller derby with Sal has to do with Amber and Walky’s relationship at all. Being in a relationship with someone does not mean it is your duty to try to solve all their problems. Amber even explicitly does not want that from him.

              The fact that she found a coping mechanism somewhere besides her boyfriend is good and healthy.

              • BBCC
                BBCC
                December 17, 2018 at 5:03 pm | #

                I think Walky and Amber are good for each other, potentially, but I also think they’re going to need more outside help then they can give each other (and, for that matter, than roller derby can give Amber).

              • regina phalange
                regina phalange
                December 17, 2018 at 10:15 pm | #

                Well, he explicitly says the primary reason he changed his mind, and it was very clearly a follow-up from Sal. I’m sure all Walky’s life experiences in the weeks since college started led him to that decision, but garbage roof was at list third on his list of reasons to do the right thing here–frankly, I don’t buy that was a part of it at all, given that his garbage roof partner was the one orchestrating the whole thing.

                And, ugh, I knew I should have clarified this right away, and I’m kicking myself because I *knew* someone would accuse me of implying it was Walky’s job to fix Amber’s problems, and I *knew* I should tack on a clarification–my point was that Walky would have enabled Amber to regress into avoidance habits too, but (given the tone of the comic a few days ago) it seems something else may start to help her (although, for the record, I agree with BBCC Amber need therapy, but I was giving roller derby the benefit of the doubt to focus on the thing I find MOST problematic about the relationship)

                • BBCC
                  BBCC
                  December 17, 2018 at 10:37 pm | #

                  I get that. I have my doubts about roller derby as a coping mechanism, but I think it’s a definitive step in the right direction that she wants to look for other outlets and get better.

        • Ivy
          Ivy
          December 17, 2018 at 2:42 pm | #

          Yeah. I’d want a partner I could have fun with, not someone constantly concerned about my issues.

      • Zee
        Zee
        December 17, 2018 at 11:19 am | #

        …I’m guessing you mean without all the “I stabbed your sister and also changed your grades after you told me not to and we could both get kicked out of school” baggage?

        • regina phalange
          regina phalange
          December 17, 2018 at 2:43 pm | #

          Naturally, plus the “still in love with ex” carry-on. Always a classic.

        • Ivy
          Ivy
          December 17, 2018 at 2:43 pm | #

          Hey, they’re good with Sal now

          • BBCC
            BBCC
            December 17, 2018 at 2:52 pm | #

            That doesn’t mean Walky will be comfortable dating someone who stabbed his sister. Or, heck, even if he manages to go ‘it’s okay, they’ve made peace, it’s cool’ that he’ll STAY cool when he finds out about the grade swapping.

            • thejeff
              thejeff
              December 17, 2018 at 6:33 pm | #

              Or after his next meeting with Amazi-Girl.

              Wonder who Amazi-Girl will see next? Him or Sal? Plenty of potential either way.

              • BBCC
                BBCC
                December 17, 2018 at 9:08 pm | #

                If the latest pattern holds, probably Sal. AG seems to be going out when Amber’s meant to be asleep.

  30. Arianod
    Arianod
    December 17, 2018 at 1:31 am | #

    Retreating to a rooftop for multiple days and liking each other a bunch is no basis for a system of gov- er, I mean a relationship!

    • NickG
      NickG
      December 17, 2018 at 2:49 pm | #

      You have to wait for the sword throwing watery bint to show up.

      • Arianod
        Arianod
        December 18, 2018 at 6:33 pm | #

        I know. It’s all moistened tarts lobbing scimitars around these days.

  31. Icalasari
    Icalasari
    December 17, 2018 at 1:45 am | #

    That smile Amber gave is a good sign

    • BenRG
      BenRG
      December 17, 2018 at 2:05 am | #

      Yeah, the way Willis draws her face lighting up like that shows what her real internal reaction is to his presence.

  32. OnyxIdol
    OnyxIdol
    December 17, 2018 at 1:47 am | #

    You know, Joyce, what you describe in the fifth panel, some people would call that harassment. Or stalking. Or manipulation. Get you some relationship education girl.

    • Koms
      Koms
      December 17, 2018 at 1:58 am | #

      Yeah.. movies have long perpetuated this notion. It needs to be denormalized.

  33. Needfuldoer
    Needfuldoer
    December 17, 2018 at 2:02 am | #

    And Joyce continues to be both incredibly adorable and cringeworthy at the same time.

    • Nobody
      Nobody
      December 17, 2018 at 2:23 am | #

      I know it’s like watching a middle schooler

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        December 17, 2018 at 6:24 am | #

        At least she’s not doing Fortnight dabs or making farting unicorn doll unboxing videos, or whatever it is the kids do these days.

        As long as it’s not on my lawn, I don’t really care.

  34. BenRG
    BenRG
    December 17, 2018 at 2:05 am | #

    In which Walky and Amber suddenly realise that Joyce’s entire understanding of ‘romance’ seems to be entirely based on cliché romcoms.

    • Keulen
      Keulen
      December 17, 2018 at 2:08 am | #

      I hope Joyce soon learns that romcom behavior is not healthy and in fact pretty creepy.

    • Emily
      Emily
      December 17, 2018 at 7:17 am | #

      And bad cliche romcoms at that.

      • BBCC
        BBCC
        December 17, 2018 at 12:23 pm | #

        Well, yeah, it’s what she was allowed to watch.

        That and Twilight.

  35. Nobody
    Nobody
    December 17, 2018 at 2:23 am | #

    I thought they might just start making out on the floor in front of Joyce

    • DarkoNeko
      DarkoNeko
      December 17, 2018 at 2:54 am | #

      oh I *WISH*.

    • BenRG
      BenRG
      December 17, 2018 at 6:13 am | #

      FWIW, I’m wondering if Amber and Walky are going to attempt to deprogram Joyce’s weird ideas of an ideal romance and it’s going to end up with her wondering if she’s ever known what love really is supposed to be like.

      Possibly, they’re going to explain what they think romance is and Joyce is going to be freaked out by how closely that matches the description of several of her closest friendships.

  36. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    December 17, 2018 at 2:56 am | #

    I wonder which of them said that in the last panel

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      December 17, 2018 at 3:28 am | #

      Sounds like Walky.

  37. Meta
    Meta
    December 17, 2018 at 3:01 am | #

    Turns out straight love sleuthing is not the lesbian love sleuth’s specialty

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      December 17, 2018 at 3:52 am | #

      Sad but true.

  38. Zaxares
    Zaxares
    December 17, 2018 at 5:04 am | #

    No, Joyce. The Step 2 you describe is how you end up with two bitterly unhappy married people who fight all the time and/or wind up cheating on each other. Trust me, I know, because this is exactly what happened to my parents. 😛

  39. kilgaen
    kilgaen
    December 17, 2018 at 6:37 am | #

    I just realised the perspective on that second panel and Willis clearly does not believe in doing things the easy way.

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      December 17, 2018 at 6:52 am | #

      He gets a lot of milage from those bunk beds.

      This is my favourite example
      http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-5/02-threes-a-crowd/cheating/

      • Zee
        Zee
        December 17, 2018 at 11:24 am | #

        Oh god I forgot how adorable that strip was
        They have their bad moments but ultimately I adore Joyce and Dorothy’s friendship

        • Bagge
          Bagge
          December 17, 2018 at 11:37 am | #

          I’ve said it many times – I’m sure I’ll have cause to say it again: For me, the best parts of this comic is Joyce and her two ladies. So many wonderful, adorable and hilarious moments!

          I also like the next comic when Dorothy walks back her snark and makes sure to leave on a high note.

    • ValdVin
      ValdVin
      December 17, 2018 at 8:41 am | #

      Playing around with angles does reward the reader, and the effort is appreciated.

  40. JBento
    JBento
    December 17, 2018 at 8:42 am | #

    The window’s open – quick, someone push Joyce out of it.

  41. BarerMender
    BarerMender
    December 17, 2018 at 9:52 am | #

    “Walky, what’s Joyce doing here?”
    “She thinks we need her to get us together. Joyce, sweetie, we love you. Now fuck off. These are our lives. Go take care of your own.”
    I always want to write new dialogue. Fortunately, I don’t get to. It wouldn’t be funny.

    • Zee
      Zee
      December 17, 2018 at 11:25 am | #

      Pfff please, like Walky would ever call Joyce sweetie and say he loves her

      • BarerMender
        BarerMender
        December 17, 2018 at 3:14 pm | #

        See what I mean? Keep me away from the dialogue.

  42. Victor Riley
    Victor Riley
    December 17, 2018 at 12:02 pm | #

    Wow… I know she subconsciously advocated for abusive-type relationships, but never thought she’d flat-out admit it.

    • BenRG
      BenRG
      December 17, 2018 at 12:15 pm | #

      The problem is that she is not actually aware that this is abusive, only that she has been socially conditioned to consider it ‘cute’ and even normal. Look at the desperation on her face when she gives Walky a shove: This is a matter of success of failure of the entire enterprise, in her mind!

      • TemperaryObsessor
        TemperaryObsessor
        December 17, 2018 at 10:52 pm | #

        Television applies this same lesson to most non romantic relationships instead of just romance, which might be part of the reason Lucy is the way she is.

  43. Guest42
    Guest42
    December 17, 2018 at 12:19 pm | #

    “Look, Joyce, you just pushed one of us on top of the other… and we decided we’re going to go with it. So maybe you and Dina should go see a movie.”

  44. wakeangel2001
    wakeangel2001
    December 17, 2018 at 1:35 pm | #

    she was so sheltered she wasn’t allowed to watch Frozen, how the hell does she know all these cliche anime tropes?

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      December 17, 2018 at 2:12 pm | #

      Probably because they’re also cliche romcom tropes and she was allowed to watch those (well, some of them anyways. Probably clean Christian ones. On the other hand, she was also allowed to watch Twilight so).

      • Knayt
        Knayt
        December 17, 2018 at 5:33 pm | #

        Twilight is Safe Mormon Erotica (TM), intentionally aimed at teenagers. The particularly sheltered are if anything the primary audience, and Stephanie Meyer shows clear signs of being formerly among them; the only thing particularly likely to trip up the standard fundagelical defenses is the “Mormon” part, and that’s subtle*.

        *Read: Is likely to fly right by a fundagelical audience because they don’t know shit about any minority religion.

        • BBCC
          BBCC
          December 17, 2018 at 5:57 pm | #

          Willis said Joyce was allowed to watch it because of the strong ‘wait until marriage’ theme, similarly to how he was allowed to watch Narnia because, even though it had magic, it had Christian themes his mother felt were important.

    • WingedBeast
      WingedBeast
      December 17, 2018 at 10:38 pm | #

      The same tropes make their way into Christsploitations, including Christian Rom-Com stuff.

  45. Nothri
    Nothri
    December 17, 2018 at 5:05 pm | #

    I dunno Joyce. This love story has a total lack of alien invasions, British ninjas, and memory wipes. Lacks something visceral…

  46. SailorCakes
    SailorCakes
    December 17, 2018 at 5:25 pm | #

    Okay this is so cute my head going to explored but somehow that’s a good thing? 😍😵

  47. stoodmuffin
    stoodmuffin
    December 18, 2018 at 1:11 am | #

    “I have observed enough human dating rituals to understand this is how people meet…”

    Joyce, with the drama YOU have been involved in, I would kinda think you are more aware then your “I am blerg nog, humonoligist!” Routine here would suggest.

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